Comparison is the thief of joy as the saying goes. Sex is too easy for women today. They need the social stigma of strong social shame to help them along in times of weakness. There are times we think we're smarter than those of the past and question their ways as if they were not developed by observation over time
This is why you distance yourself from the single people in your friend group once you get engaged, & cut them down to acquaintances when you get married until they too have managed to get engaged.
She truly had no remorse, to the end she was feigning self justification. she’s now a permanent single rider searching possibly forever for that security she had and blew up.
Hey, let’s take a 3 month break and if I don’t find anything better I’ll come back and we’ll get married. But I’ll still keep looking for something better…
I'm sadly never have long term relationship, I'm bouncing from one night stands , to hookers and temporary girlfriends(3-6month) I can't find a soul mate.
@romanfedotov1152 you what you look for. It's not easy to find a good one and some have found one going through the field but it doesn't work as people think. Things happen in time and we don't know or can understand what time is so we can't determine when something happens.
To a guy it is only about her having zex with other guys, period, end of discussion, move along. The magic of meeting new men over and over again vs living alone, with cats in your 30's, 40's and on. You go girl!!!
There's a Reddit story where the fiance asked if he would be willing to have an open relationship. He asked if she was serious. When she said yes, he told her it was over and kicked her out. The minute they ask for an open relationship, you're relationship is over.
Ingratitude for the good things we receive and a sense that we "deserve more" leads to narcissism and the destruction of relationships. Viewing the world through envy and greed is toxic. Always wondering what "could have been" will eat your soul.
For everyone out there, all he had to do was get his phone records. He could request the data showing time, phone and if it was a local call. There is no way he should ever trust her.
Any spouse that wants a break to explore their feelings is not ready for marriage. For any happy marriage sacrifices must be made. Better to be happy in the long term. she should have talked to her grandparents or some other couple that has been married a long time. The key to a long term relationship is respect (includes trust and faithfulness), love, and communication with communication being the hardest. In the above story, he should feel fortunate that he found out before he was married and not 20+ years before she decided to cheat.
4:30. Why take a three month break before your wedding? Just get it all done in one night. I believe they are now called Bachelorette Parties. One Stop Shopping. Much more efficient than trying to land “dates” at the clubs or from work or Tinder.
As soon as they ask for an Open Marriage, they have already cheated or have someone in mind to cheat with, it's never a spur of the moment decision without options already lined up. At this point you just need to end the marriage because they will either cheat if you say no or they will harbor resentment for your unwillingness to try something new. Either way you're better off without them. Open marriages cause more divorces then improve them.
For me it's the break up as soon as this is proposed... There is no way i can trust her again after that, even if she back down noticing this is stupid and really doesn't want it anymore And wow that end... She really didn't understand what she did... Probably won't even know what she did on her death bed..
What a stupid 304😂😂 Some women have no idea how lucky they are to find “the one” without going through different guys and relationships 😢 Disappointing 😢
When you're dating and your date suggests becoming partners, *that* is the time to discuss any reservations. Say "I like you but I'm not ready to be exclusive yet." and there may be hope for the future. Deciding after the fact that you're not ready for monogamy is a deal breaker. Even asking is a betrayal of trust.
And that is why a man cannot stay with a woman who says she wants to be with others to "Experiment", in the end, even if they say they won't do it because of your response, they will always find a way to do it.
This guy is too naive. If she proposed a such thing, it is clear her values and ideas. It did not change after she felt at risk to lose the simp. Why people ignore a such revelation? He is luck as it turned obvious before it was too late.
Never let a women monkey branch with a safety net. Any talk about a break or open relationship is a deal breaker. Do not pass go, do not collet $200, game over move on.
ok im starting the story - at least she had the decency to want to explore this before marriage and break up - but what shes not considering is men dont want someone who was just used and abused - the after 3 mos ill come back = no thank you and what happens next time she gets the " itch " - it worked once - why not again and she will think you will roll with it and understand - so i commend her for breaking up first than i default to the stupidity of her decision - no one would want someone back after they went " wild " just before thier wedding - man or woman
Nope once your accepted the engagement ring you've basically said we're exclusive and I know what I want for the rest of my life and your it. If you weren't ready for that you should not have said yes to the marriage proposal. Run Forest Run. She is not the woman you thought she was to even have the audicity to make such a disrespectful statement. This will be the pattern for the rest of your married life if you proceed with it. Keep in mind its way easier and a lot less costly to rid yourself of a cheating fiance than it is to rid yourself of a cheating wife. Btw I woukd not have offer her any choices I would have just asked for my engagement ring back. You have 3 days to mourn the loss of a relationship. Then move on light your path forward with the light of the bridges she set ablaze behind you.
If she wants to live the single life, she should've done so being single; not while in a relationship! If she wants thrills with other men, SHE needed to do the approaching; not the guy!
How needy does a man have to be that he still wants to stay with a woman even though his fiancée comes to him and says she wants to sleep with other men?
Women: I got a wonderful life and everything has gotten better with time...BUT I WANT MORE AND MORE. You give me more? I WANT EVEN MORE! And ALL men who does not react like the man in this story are pathetic desperate and spinelss. Only mistake is that he should've ended it right away. And I would've NEVER bought such a story right after she asked for an open marriage. And the woman is now doomed to be the plaything of Chad and Tyrone until the cats come calling...
"I just think we should be sure." They were engaged! How sure was she when she said "yes" to a marriage? And then suddenly wants to sleep with other men? This is a woman who was in no way ready for a long-term commitment. As soon as she made the suggestion, the trust was broken, and it was game over. After that, anyone would strongly suspect that it was only a matter of time before she would find a way to cheat.
If she doesn't leave for the 3 months and stays and gets married she will still have that itch that needs scratching and stray. It's amazing how a woman will give up a life of happiness for some short term excitement.
Only the wise realize that what they have now is what they really wanted and hoped to have years before. If you constantly chase for more, different, better it leads to a lifetime of disappointment.
When your exclusive partners asks for a break, or to have an “open” arrangement, END IT RIGHT NOW. They have already cheated or have been lining up the individual they plan to be with in your place. Do not give them the opportunity to reverse their request. Just by thinking about the request they are not that into you and you will waste years with that person.
So was there never a temp assignment in London? What was it London TN? She's going to bury this story. "how did your last relationship end?" "Oh, 3 months before we to be married, I decided to take a break and F around". Yeah, that story is going to be buried.
You know that she's really thinking that if he had only caved into her proposal, none of this would have happened to her. She's really blaming him in her mind.
Women in serious relationships taking sdvice from women that haven't had successful relationships/don't know how to keep a man is one of the mysteries that still surprise me about women
Wow, they both daft. So, she gets wedding jitters and envys her friends for the butterflys at every new date. If she had a real talk with them about that and her feelings of missing out, I bet most of them would call her out on it and assure her that they would rather have what she already has - or had befor she obsessed about her jitters. Than the "trip to London", which was conviniently exactly as long as she suggests the break, which of course isn't suspecious. And it doesn't even occur to her that maybe her deception might work better somewhere farther away where the chance of being spotted by someone they know would be lower? Really brilliant. His first mistake - assuming he doesn't want to end things with her from the start - is not really talking with her, digging for the root of her feelings. Is her idea stupid? Of course. But it would have been more productive if he tried to remain calm and empathatic, if he had really helped her unearthing and expressing her feelings. Then both of them should sleep over it - separate. Then again talk. He really quickly resorts to threats of breaking up. Furthermore, the three months trip mentioned above, why does he not at least wonder about the coincidence? And his wonder about how much he misses his fiancée after two weeks, the woman he loves is baffleling. Lastly, while I get that revenge might taste sweet, what he does is good for neither them nor their friends or relatives. By letting her run in his trip he is wasting his own time, time he could use in starting to move on, only revelling in the hurt, the grudge and the anger. He is also wasting the time and possibly ressources of their families and friends. Remember, there is a wedding coming up. And assuming there already is a date set (at least a time frame), they might already be preparing gifts and arrangements for their stays. If you know you want to cancel the wedding, then don't wait for weeks until you do it but do it right away and inform your friends and family right away. It is a show of respect for them. And by the way, by confronting her right away, in person or by call or by just rending her the picture, you would ruin the rest of her happy charade, make her realize the full extend of her choice while she has all this free time without distraction - that's also quite a satisfying revenge.
He should dump her regardless of what she decides after what she asked if him. Better to do it now than in 10 years 2 kids and a mortgage. She can no longer be trusted.
This is what women don't think about, what if you found out that you do want to be with him but he found another woman? Then it will be you that is certain and him not ready to marry. Women think that men wouldn't find another woman because they love them but don't realize the love is broken when they suggest to be with other men.
What your single friends are experiencing is called new relationship energy or NRE. It usually fizzles out in about six months. You likely experienced this with Richie as the wedding date approached. If you felt as strongly about NRE then it might be better to settle into an ethical non-monogamous relationship. You may not find a life partner but the experience will satisfy your curiosity. Search websites in your area for non-monogamous couples to start your adventure.
Why do people want one night stands (so to speak) you don't know the other person and what they are capable of (hopefully you know what I mean) (bad things)
I'm not sure why everyone is getting so excited about this obviously fictional story. "I'm in London working hard. Missing You." She says to her fiance. Both are IT experts wheras the person who who created this fairy story clearly is clueless. Anything sent over the internet can be tracked to a location or if the location is masked that shows up too. A photo of her in front of Big Ben can be seen to have been faked! The moral of this fairy tale is if you are in a relationship and anything changes DO NOT IGNORE IT.
Hope you have heard about VPNs and other masking techniques apart from green screen etc. You make it sound as if when somebody sends a fake picture then internet will stamp it as FAKE before the receiver sees it. Being an IT expert does not mean you have domain expertise in all fields
Her- " I just want to be sure..."
Me- " I'm now sure. We are done."
As soon as your SO asks to take a break or for a open relationship, it's over and you need to walk away.
Exactly. As soon as it's brought up, just end things because, if you say no, she'll just do it behind your back.
She neither loves or respects him.
If she wants a break, tell her if she goes, there's no coming back. Stick with it. No excuses, no exceptions.
Once she made that statement there was no going back.
I would have kicked her out and broke it off as soon as she mentioned the open relationship
What tell, it's over.
She just declared war. Her idea is a one sided open relationship. It needs to be a permanent breakup. Period!!
Judge a woman only by her actions , not her words or tears.
ITYM judge a person; it applies to both sexes.
@@SeymourJ.MetzShmuel certainly.
Paraphrasing a famous Greek philosopher.
100%
She doesn't love Rickie and she doesn't respect him. She loved the security he provided. He is the backup plan.
Absolutely!!
Its called Monkey Brancing I believe!
Placeholder boyfriend....
Let's be real here. He's a computer nerd- he's ALWAYS going to be a backup plan
‘I want to see if I can find the Bigger Better Deal.’
NEVER ENVY what others have, just be a better person every day.
Comparison is the thief of joy as the saying goes. Sex is too easy for women today. They need the social stigma of strong social shame to help them along in times of weakness. There are times we think we're smarter than those of the past and question their ways as if they were not developed by observation over time
Freedom to explore = ride the carousel= intimacy with others.
Do you have a single daughter?
This is why you distance yourself from the single people in your friend group once you get engaged, & cut them down to acquaintances when you get married until they too have managed to get engaged.
She truly had no remorse, to the end she was feigning self justification. she’s now a permanent single rider searching possibly forever for that security she had and blew up.
Hey, let’s take a 3 month break and if I don’t find anything better I’ll come back and we’ll get married. But I’ll still keep looking for something better…
Just a 304, nothing more, she will always be one.
Single women keeping women single.
Who the hell wants to spend their lives bouncing from person to person? An idiot that's who
A woman with cats in her future.
I'm sadly never have long term relationship, I'm bouncing from one night stands , to hookers and temporary girlfriends(3-6month)
I can't find a soul mate.
@romanfedotov1152 you what you look for. It's not easy to find a good one and some have found one going through the field but it doesn't work as people think. Things happen in time and we don't know or can understand what time is so we can't determine when something happens.
To a guy it is only about her having zex with other guys, period, end of discussion, move along.
The magic of meeting new men over and over again vs living alone, with cats in your 30's, 40's and on. You go girl!!!
There's a Reddit story where the fiance asked if he would be willing to have an open relationship. He asked if she was serious. When she said yes, he told her it was over and kicked her out. The minute they ask for an open relationship, you're relationship is over.
Exactly
It's working when you date a temporary girl
Ingratitude for the good things we receive and a sense that we "deserve more" leads to narcissism and the destruction of relationships. Viewing the world through envy and greed is toxic. Always wondering what "could have been" will eat your soul.
For everyone out there, all he had to do was get his phone records. He could request the data showing time, phone and if it was a local call. There is no way he should ever trust her.
Enjoy comparing experiences with the rest of your single friends.
You can never housewife a 304. Comparison is the thief of Joy.
Ashley is not marriage material but a selfish narcissistic 304. It's a good thing you found out before you got married
She just couldn't take the no but wanted to lie
This what happens when you take a good guy for granted
90 second in and I heard "my single friends". That was the death knell of her relationship. Single women keeping women single.
A relationship is between 2 people symbolised by a closed circle, a ring! Break the circle and there is no relationship, and no path back, ever!
She would either do it now or later. Better now. Get the ring back, send her on her way.
Any spouse that wants a break to explore their feelings is not ready for marriage. For any happy marriage sacrifices must be made. Better to be happy in the long term. she should have talked to her grandparents or some other couple that has been married a long time. The key to a long term relationship is respect (includes trust and faithfulness), love, and communication with communication being the hardest. In the above story, he should feel fortunate that he found out before he was married and not 20+ years before she decided to cheat.
Fear Of Missing Out (FOMO) has destroyed many lives and people's destinies! 🤦
4:30. Why take a three month break before your wedding? Just get it all done in one night. I believe they are now called Bachelorette Parties. One Stop Shopping. Much more efficient than trying to land “dates” at the clubs or from work or Tinder.
She’s a fool
As soon as she asked it's over.
As soon as they ask for an Open Marriage, they have already cheated or have someone in mind to cheat with, it's never a spur of the moment decision without options already lined up. At this point you just need to end the marriage because they will either cheat if you say no or they will harbor resentment for your unwillingness to try something new. Either way you're better off without them. Open marriages cause more divorces then improve them.
For me it's the break up as soon as this is proposed... There is no way i can trust her again after that, even if she back down noticing this is stupid and really doesn't want it anymore
And wow that end... She really didn't understand what she did... Probably won't even know what she did on her death bed..
So is this “play stupid games and win stupid prize” or “fuck around and find out”?
I thin I the two mean the same thing ultimately.
What a stupid 304😂😂
Some women have no idea how lucky they are to find “the one” without going through different guys and relationships 😢
Disappointing 😢
When you're dating and your date suggests becoming partners, *that* is the time to discuss any reservations. Say "I like you but I'm not ready to be exclusive yet." and there may be hope for the future. Deciding after the fact that you're not ready for monogamy is a deal breaker. Even asking is a betrayal of trust.
And that is why a man cannot stay with a woman who says she wants to be with others to "Experiment", in the end, even if they say they won't do it because of your response, they will always find a way to do it.
This guy is too naive. If she proposed a such thing, it is clear her values and ideas. It did not change after she felt at risk to lose the simp. Why people ignore a such revelation? He is luck as it turned obvious before it was too late.
Never let a women monkey branch with a safety net. Any talk about a break or open relationship is a deal breaker. Do not pass go, do not collet $200, game over move on.
The moment this is mentioned it's over. No talk, excuses...etc
Done
I agree one hundred percent
ok im starting the story - at least she had the decency to want to explore this before marriage and break up - but what shes not considering is men dont want someone who was just used and abused - the after 3 mos ill come back = no thank you and what happens next time she gets the " itch " - it worked once - why not again and she will think you will roll with it and understand - so i commend her for breaking up first than i default to the stupidity of her decision - no one would want someone back after they went " wild " just before thier wedding - man or woman
Excellent point!
Cake eater alert.
single women keep women single
And their single mothers don't teach their daughters this truth.
Nope once your accepted the engagement ring you've basically said we're exclusive and I know what I want for the rest of my life and your it. If you weren't ready for that you should not have said yes to the marriage proposal. Run Forest Run. She is not the woman you thought she was to even have the audicity to make such a disrespectful statement. This will be the pattern for the rest of your married life if you proceed with it. Keep in mind its way easier and a lot less costly to rid yourself of a cheating fiance than it is to rid yourself of a cheating wife. Btw I woukd not have offer her any choices I would have just asked for my engagement ring back. You have 3 days to mourn the loss of a relationship. Then move on light your path forward with the light of the bridges she set ablaze behind you.
11:27. Ashley, why do you think that your single friends are still single?
She got a permanent one.
Why didn’t he go to her work place?
If she wants to live the single life, she should've done so being single; not while in a relationship! If she wants thrills with other men, SHE needed to do the approaching; not the guy!
When she asks for a break/ open relationship,you just ask her " who is he and how long has it been going on?"
She played stupid games and won stupid prizes.
She can always go back to the Chad she was adamant to sleep with.
How needy does a man have to be that he still wants to stay with a woman even though his fiancée comes to him and says she wants to sleep with other men?
Women: I got a wonderful life and everything has gotten better with time...BUT
I WANT MORE AND MORE. You give me more? I WANT EVEN MORE!
And ALL men who does not react like the man in this story are pathetic desperate and spinelss. Only mistake is that he should've ended it right away. And I would've NEVER bought such a story right after she asked for an open marriage.
And the woman is now doomed to be the plaything of Chad and Tyrone until the cats come calling...
The essence of Hypergamy.
"I just think we should be sure." They were engaged! How sure was she when she said "yes" to a marriage? And then suddenly wants to sleep with other men? This is a woman who was in no way ready for a long-term commitment. As soon as she made the suggestion, the trust was broken, and it was game over. After that, anyone would strongly suspect that it was only a matter of time before she would find a way to cheat.
If she doesn't leave for the 3 months and stays and gets married she will still have that itch that needs scratching and stray. It's amazing how a woman will give up a life of happiness for some short term excitement.
If you think about it what was going through Ashley's mind is there somebody better than Richie out there and if so I need to try to find out
Only the wise realize that what they have now is what they really wanted and hoped to have years before. If you constantly chase for more, different, better it leads to a lifetime of disappointment.
When your exclusive partners asks for a break, or to have an “open” arrangement, END IT RIGHT NOW. They have already cheated or have been lining up the individual they plan to be with in your place. Do not give them the opportunity to reverse their request. Just by thinking about the request they are not that into you and you will waste years with that person.
So was there never a temp assignment in London? What was it London TN? She's going to bury this story. "how did your last relationship end?" "Oh, 3 months before we to be married, I decided to take a break and F around". Yeah, that story is going to be buried.
You know that she's really thinking that if he had only caved into her proposal, none of this would have happened to her. She's really blaming him in her mind.
Single female friends are the number one threat to happy committed women, just how comparison is the thief of joy.
Richie did it right she lost
Women in serious relationships taking sdvice from women that haven't had successful relationships/don't know how to keep a man is one of the mysteries that still surprise me about women
I hate people who cheat saying *rebuild their life* what??? They just left you not like they took everything from you 😮💨
Missing out, pull of the unknown, open relationships are excuses to be a 304.
Wow, they both daft.
So, she gets wedding jitters and envys her friends for the butterflys at every new date. If she had a real talk with them about that and her feelings of missing out, I bet most of them would call her out on it and assure her that they would rather have what she already has - or had befor she obsessed about her jitters.
Than the "trip to London", which was conviniently exactly as long as she suggests the break, which of course isn't suspecious.
And it doesn't even occur to her that maybe her deception might work better somewhere farther away where the chance of being spotted by someone they know would be lower? Really brilliant.
His first mistake - assuming he doesn't want to end things with her from the start - is not really talking with her, digging for the root of her feelings. Is her idea stupid? Of course. But it would have been more productive if he tried to remain calm and empathatic, if he had really helped her unearthing and expressing her feelings. Then both of them should sleep over it - separate. Then again talk. He really quickly resorts to threats of breaking up.
Furthermore, the three months trip mentioned above, why does he not at least wonder about the coincidence? And his wonder about how much he misses his fiancée after two weeks, the woman he loves is baffleling.
Lastly, while I get that revenge might taste sweet, what he does is good for neither them nor their friends or relatives. By letting her run in his trip he is wasting his own time, time he could use in starting to move on, only revelling in the hurt, the grudge and the anger. He is also wasting the time and possibly ressources of their families and friends. Remember, there is a wedding coming up. And assuming there already is a date set (at least a time frame), they might already be preparing gifts and arrangements for their stays. If you know you want to cancel the wedding, then don't wait for weeks until you do it but do it right away and inform your friends and family right away. It is a show of respect for them. And by the way, by confronting her right away, in person or by call or by just rending her the picture, you would ruin the rest of her happy charade, make her realize the full extend of her choice while she has all this free time without distraction - that's also quite a satisfying revenge.
No such thing as a Break in a relationship, if you want to live like your single then just stay single
The grass is always greener where the dog craps.
He should dump her regardless of what she decides after what she asked if him. Better to do it now than in 10 years 2 kids and a mortgage. She can no longer be trusted.
Faced with losing her resources. Richie, get out now.
Key word, trust.
Just the mention of exploring, 100 percent trust is gone.
Just don't understand people like this. No common sense.
If Richie marries her get a prenuptial, agreement remember she said she can't shake the feeling of something new red flag
She is actually right. Way too young to get married
Stupid 304…….
He should have insisted that he would pick her up at the airport.
This is what women don't think about, what if you found out that you do want to be with him but he found another woman? Then it will be you that is certain and him not ready to marry. Women think that men wouldn't find another woman because they love them but don't realize the love is broken when they suggest to be with other men.
1:34. Those butterflies in your stomach feelings may just be trichomoniasis. Another thing that you can get by having lots of experiences.
Strange how she never ran back to her last affair partner after the break up with Richie.
She loss not Richie
Yep. She’s a cake eater. Why let her make a decision? It’s over. She’ll do it again after a few years of marriage.
What your single friends are experiencing is called new relationship energy or NRE. It usually fizzles out in about six months. You likely experienced this with Richie as the wedding date approached. If you felt as strongly about NRE then it might be better to settle into an ethical non-monogamous relationship. You may not find a life partner but the experience will satisfy your curiosity. Search websites in your area for non-monogamous couples to start your adventure.
Maybe there's a reason why her friends were still single
Single women make and keep other women single.
Why does OP have to be an idiot. Should have broken the moment she brought the idea
Sorry don't believe it woman NEVER ACCEPT ACCOUNTABILITY!
OP wanted a lot of sausage…..
Get the ring back and end it. She is going to cheat on you one day.
Why do people want one night stands (so to speak) you don't know the other person and what they are capable of (hopefully you know what I mean) (bad things)
Another tale of w….
I'm not sure why everyone is getting so excited about this obviously fictional story.
"I'm in London working hard. Missing You." She says to her fiance.
Both are IT experts wheras the person who who created this fairy story clearly is clueless.
Anything sent over the internet can be tracked to a location or if the location is masked that shows up too.
A photo of her in front of Big Ben can be seen to have been faked!
The moral of this fairy tale is if you are in a relationship and anything changes DO NOT IGNORE IT.
Hope you have heard about VPNs and other masking techniques apart from green screen etc. You make it sound as if when somebody sends a fake picture then internet will stamp it as FAKE before the receiver sees it. Being an IT expert does not mean you have domain expertise in all fields
What is in reality “rebuilding my life”? Finding another victim and hiding cheating more careful? Better lie and deception?