This is why you distance yourself from the single people in your friend group once you get engaged, & cut them down to acquaintances when you get married until they too have managed to get engaged.
She truly had no remorse, to the end she was feigning self justification. she’s now a permanent single rider searching possibly forever for that security she had and blew up.
To a guy it is only about her having zex with other guys, period, end of discussion, move along. The magic of meeting new men over and over again vs living alone, with cats in your 30's, 40's and on. You go girl!!!
There's a Reddit story where the fiance asked if he would be willing to have an open relationship. He asked if she was serious. When she said yes, he told her it was over and kicked her out. The minute they ask for an open relationship, you're relationship is over.
Hey, let’s take a 3 month break and if I don’t find anything better I’ll come back and we’ll get married. But I’ll still keep looking for something better…
Ingratitude for the good things we receive and a sense that we "deserve more" leads to narcissism and the destruction of relationships. Viewing the world through envy and greed is toxic. Always wondering what "could have been" will eat your soul.
For everyone out there, all he had to do was get his phone records. He could request the data showing time, phone and if it was a local call. There is no way he should ever trust her.
Why would any woman seriously think that stupid plan would work. A suggestion like that would mean a break up. Especially the stupid London trick. That wouldnt fool anyone.
If you have to tell a woman that if she leaves, she shouldn’t come back or if she goes and dates other men it’s over, then it’s already over. And if you have thoughts that you’re missing out on something, then you are missing out on something. You’re not relationship material and you should not trick someone into being in a relationship with you when you aren’t.
Any spouse that wants a break to explore their feelings is not ready for marriage. For any happy marriage sacrifices must be made. Better to be happy in the long term. she should have talked to her grandparents or some other couple that has been married a long time. The key to a long term relationship is respect (includes trust and faithfulness), love, and communication with communication being the hardest. In the above story, he should feel fortunate that he found out before he was married and not 20+ years before she decided to cheat.
And that is why a man cannot stay with a woman who says she wants to be with others to "Experiment", in the end, even if they say they won't do it because of your response, they will always find a way to do it.
When you're dating and your date suggests becoming partners, *that* is the time to discuss any reservations. Say "I like you but I'm not ready to be exclusive yet." and there may be hope for the future. Deciding after the fact that you're not ready for monogamy is a deal breaker. Even asking is a betrayal of trust.
For me it's the break up as soon as this is proposed... There is no way i can trust her again after that, even if she back down noticing this is stupid and really doesn't want it anymore And wow that end... She really didn't understand what she did... Probably won't even know what she did on her death bed..
Never let a women monkey branch with a safety net. Any talk about a break or open relationship is a deal breaker. Do not pass go, do not collet $200, game over move on.
What a stupid 304😂😂 Some women have no idea how lucky they are to find “the one” without going through different guys and relationships 😢 Disappointing 😢
This guy is too naive. If she proposed a such thing, it is clear her values and ideas. It did not change after she felt at risk to lose the simp. Why people ignore a such revelation? He is luck as it turned obvious before it was too late.
ok im starting the story - at least she had the decency to want to explore this before marriage and break up - but what shes not considering is men dont want someone who was just used and abused - the after 3 mos ill come back = no thank you and what happens next time she gets the " itch " - it worked once - why not again and she will think you will roll with it and understand - so i commend her for breaking up first than i default to the stupidity of her decision - no one would want someone back after they went " wild " just before thier wedding - man or woman
If she wants to live the single life, she should've done so being single; not while in a relationship! If she wants thrills with other men, SHE needed to do the approaching; not the guy!
If she doesn't leave for the 3 months and stays and gets married she will still have that itch that needs scratching and stray. It's amazing how a woman will give up a life of happiness for some short term excitement.
Nope once your accepted the engagement ring you've basically said we're exclusive and I know what I want for the rest of my life and your it. If you weren't ready for that you should not have said yes to the marriage proposal. Run Forest Run. She is not the woman you thought she was to even have the audicity to make such a disrespectful statement. This will be the pattern for the rest of your married life if you proceed with it. Keep in mind its way easier and a lot less costly to rid yourself of a cheating fiance than it is to rid yourself of a cheating wife. Btw I woukd not have offer her any choices I would have just asked for my engagement ring back. You have 3 days to mourn the loss of a relationship. Then move on light your path forward with the light of the bridges she set ablaze behind you.
How needy does a man have to be that he still wants to stay with a woman even though his fiancée comes to him and says she wants to sleep with other men?
Women: I got a wonderful life and everything has gotten better with time...BUT I WANT MORE AND MORE. You give me more? I WANT EVEN MORE! And ALL men who does not react like the man in this story are pathetic desperate and spinelss. Only mistake is that he should've ended it right away. And I would've NEVER bought such a story right after she asked for an open marriage. And the woman is now doomed to be the plaything of Chad and Tyrone until the cats come calling...
"I just think we should be sure." They were engaged! How sure was she when she said "yes" to a marriage? And then suddenly wants to sleep with other men? This is a woman who was in no way ready for a long-term commitment. As soon as she made the suggestion, the trust was broken, and it was game over. After that, anyone would strongly suspect that it was only a matter of time before she would find a way to cheat.
Only the wise realize that what they have now is what they really wanted and hoped to have years before. If you constantly chase for more, different, better it leads to a lifetime of disappointment.
Wow, they both daft. So, she gets wedding jitters and envys her friends for the butterflys at every new date. If she had a real talk with them about that and her feelings of missing out, I bet most of them would call her out on it and assure her that they would rather have what she already has - or had befor she obsessed about her jitters. Than the "trip to London", which was conviniently exactly as long as she suggests the break, which of course isn't suspecious. And it doesn't even occur to her that maybe her deception might work better somewhere farther away where the chance of being spotted by someone they know would be lower? Really brilliant. His first mistake - assuming he doesn't want to end things with her from the start - is not really talking with her, digging for the root of her feelings. Is her idea stupid? Of course. But it would have been more productive if he tried to remain calm and empathatic, if he had really helped her unearthing and expressing her feelings. Then both of them should sleep over it - separate. Then again talk. He really quickly resorts to threats of breaking up. Furthermore, the three months trip mentioned above, why does he not at least wonder about the coincidence? And his wonder about how much he misses his fiancée after two weeks, the woman he loves is baffleling. Lastly, while I get that revenge might taste sweet, what he does is good for neither them nor their friends or relatives. By letting her run in his trip he is wasting his own time, time he could use in starting to move on, only revelling in the hurt, the grudge and the anger. He is also wasting the time and possibly ressources of their families and friends. Remember, there is a wedding coming up. And assuming there already is a date set (at least a time frame), they might already be preparing gifts and arrangements for their stays. If you know you want to cancel the wedding, then don't wait for weeks until you do it but do it right away and inform your friends and family right away. It is a show of respect for them. And by the way, by confronting her right away, in person or by call or by just rending her the picture, you would ruin the rest of her happy charade, make her realize the full extend of her choice while she has all this free time without distraction - that's also quite a satisfying revenge.
What your single friends are experiencing is called new relationship energy or NRE. It usually fizzles out in about six months. You likely experienced this with Richie as the wedding date approached. If you felt as strongly about NRE then it might be better to settle into an ethical non-monogamous relationship. You may not find a life partner but the experience will satisfy your curiosity. Search websites in your area for non-monogamous couples to start your adventure.
I'm not sure why everyone is getting so excited about this obviously fictional story. "I'm in London working hard. Missing You." She says to her fiance. Both are IT experts wheras the person who who created this fairy story clearly is clueless. Anything sent over the internet can be tracked to a location or if the location is masked that shows up too. A photo of her in front of Big Ben can be seen to have been faked! The moral of this fairy tale is if you are in a relationship and anything changes DO NOT IGNORE IT.
Hope you have heard about VPNs and other masking techniques apart from green screen etc. You make it sound as if when somebody sends a fake picture then internet will stamp it as FAKE before the receiver sees it. Being an IT expert does not mean you have domain expertise in all fields
As soon as your SO asks to take a break or for a open relationship, it's over and you need to walk away.
‘I want to see if I can find the Bigger Better Deal.’
She doesn't love Rickie and she doesn't respect him. She loved the security he provided. He is the backup plan.
Absolutely!!
Judge a woman only by her actions , not her words or tears.
ITYM judge a person; it applies to both sexes.
@@SeymourJ.MetzShmuel certainly.
If she wants a break, tell her if she goes, there's no coming back. Stick with it. No excuses, no exceptions.
Once she made that statement there was no going back.
I would have kicked her out and broke it off as soon as she mentioned the open relationship
What tell, it's over.
She just declared war. Her idea is a one sided open relationship. It needs to be a permanent breakup. Period!!
Freedom to explore = ride the carousel= intimacy with others.
Do you have a single daughter?
Her- " I just want to be sure..."
Me- " I'm now sure. We are done."
She neither loves or respects him.
NEVER ENVY what others have, just be a better person every day.
This is why you distance yourself from the single people in your friend group once you get engaged, & cut them down to acquaintances when you get married until they too have managed to get engaged.
She truly had no remorse, to the end she was feigning self justification. she’s now a permanent single rider searching possibly forever for that security she had and blew up.
To a guy it is only about her having zex with other guys, period, end of discussion, move along.
The magic of meeting new men over and over again vs living alone, with cats in your 30's, 40's and on. You go girl!!!
Who the hell wants to spend their lives bouncing from person to person? An idiot that's who
A woman with cats in her future.
There's a Reddit story where the fiance asked if he would be willing to have an open relationship. He asked if she was serious. When she said yes, he told her it was over and kicked her out. The minute they ask for an open relationship, you're relationship is over.
Hey, let’s take a 3 month break and if I don’t find anything better I’ll come back and we’ll get married. But I’ll still keep looking for something better…
Ingratitude for the good things we receive and a sense that we "deserve more" leads to narcissism and the destruction of relationships. Viewing the world through envy and greed is toxic. Always wondering what "could have been" will eat your soul.
For everyone out there, all he had to do was get his phone records. He could request the data showing time, phone and if it was a local call. There is no way he should ever trust her.
Why would any woman seriously think that stupid plan would work. A suggestion like that would mean a break up. Especially the stupid London trick. That wouldnt fool anyone.
A relationship is between 2 people symbolised by a closed circle, a ring! Break the circle and there is no relationship, and no path back, ever!
If you have to tell a woman that if she leaves, she shouldn’t come back or if she goes and dates other men it’s over, then it’s already over. And if you have thoughts that you’re missing out on something, then you are missing out on something. You’re not relationship material and you should not trick someone into being in a relationship with you when you aren’t.
Fear Of Missing Out (FOMO) has destroyed many lives and people's destinies! 🤦
Any spouse that wants a break to explore their feelings is not ready for marriage. For any happy marriage sacrifices must be made. Better to be happy in the long term. she should have talked to her grandparents or some other couple that has been married a long time. The key to a long term relationship is respect (includes trust and faithfulness), love, and communication with communication being the hardest. In the above story, he should feel fortunate that he found out before he was married and not 20+ years before she decided to cheat.
Enjoy comparing experiences with the rest of your single friends.
You can never housewife a 304. Comparison is the thief of Joy.
Ashley is not marriage material but a selfish narcissistic 304. It's a good thing you found out before you got married
She just couldn't take the no but wanted to lie
304 going be 304 just needed opportunities.
Now with "wisdom" she will cover her track more thoroughly, and then destroy some other poor sap's life.
Just a 304, nothing more, she will always be one.
Single women keeping women single.
This what happens when you take a good guy for granted
She would either do it now or later. Better now. Get the ring back, send her on her way.
And that is why a man cannot stay with a woman who says she wants to be with others to "Experiment", in the end, even if they say they won't do it because of your response, they will always find a way to do it.
When you're dating and your date suggests becoming partners, *that* is the time to discuss any reservations. Say "I like you but I'm not ready to be exclusive yet." and there may be hope for the future. Deciding after the fact that you're not ready for monogamy is a deal breaker. Even asking is a betrayal of trust.
For me it's the break up as soon as this is proposed... There is no way i can trust her again after that, even if she back down noticing this is stupid and really doesn't want it anymore
And wow that end... She really didn't understand what she did... Probably won't even know what she did on her death bed..
Never let a women monkey branch with a safety net. Any talk about a break or open relationship is a deal breaker. Do not pass go, do not collet $200, game over move on.
So is this “play stupid games and win stupid prize” or “fuck around and find out”?
I thin I the two mean the same thing ultimately.
What a stupid 304😂😂
Some women have no idea how lucky they are to find “the one” without going through different guys and relationships 😢
Disappointing 😢
As soon as she asked it's over.
This guy is too naive. If she proposed a such thing, it is clear her values and ideas. It did not change after she felt at risk to lose the simp. Why people ignore a such revelation? He is luck as it turned obvious before it was too late.
She’s a fool
She played stupid games and won stupid prizes.
ok im starting the story - at least she had the decency to want to explore this before marriage and break up - but what shes not considering is men dont want someone who was just used and abused - the after 3 mos ill come back = no thank you and what happens next time she gets the " itch " - it worked once - why not again and she will think you will roll with it and understand - so i commend her for breaking up first than i default to the stupidity of her decision - no one would want someone back after they went " wild " just before thier wedding - man or woman
Excellent point!
If she wants to live the single life, she should've done so being single; not while in a relationship! If she wants thrills with other men, SHE needed to do the approaching; not the guy!
If she doesn't leave for the 3 months and stays and gets married she will still have that itch that needs scratching and stray. It's amazing how a woman will give up a life of happiness for some short term excitement.
She can always go back to the Chad she was adamant to sleep with.
He should have dumped her the moment she brought it up. No ultimatums, take the decision from her and tell her you’re done.
She got a permanent one.
The moment this is mentioned it's over. No talk, excuses...etc
Done
I agree one hundred percent
Nope once your accepted the engagement ring you've basically said we're exclusive and I know what I want for the rest of my life and your it. If you weren't ready for that you should not have said yes to the marriage proposal. Run Forest Run. She is not the woman you thought she was to even have the audicity to make such a disrespectful statement. This will be the pattern for the rest of your married life if you proceed with it. Keep in mind its way easier and a lot less costly to rid yourself of a cheating fiance than it is to rid yourself of a cheating wife. Btw I woukd not have offer her any choices I would have just asked for my engagement ring back. You have 3 days to mourn the loss of a relationship. Then move on light your path forward with the light of the bridges she set ablaze behind you.
How needy does a man have to be that he still wants to stay with a woman even though his fiancée comes to him and says she wants to sleep with other men?
single women keep women single
And their single mothers don't teach their daughters this truth.
Richie did it right she lost
Why didn’t he go to her work place?
Cake eater alert.
Women: I got a wonderful life and everything has gotten better with time...BUT
I WANT MORE AND MORE. You give me more? I WANT EVEN MORE!
And ALL men who does not react like the man in this story are pathetic desperate and spinelss. Only mistake is that he should've ended it right away. And I would've NEVER bought such a story right after she asked for an open marriage.
And the woman is now doomed to be the plaything of Chad and Tyrone until the cats come calling...
The essence of Hypergamy.
She loss not Richie
"I just think we should be sure." They were engaged! How sure was she when she said "yes" to a marriage? And then suddenly wants to sleep with other men? This is a woman who was in no way ready for a long-term commitment. As soon as she made the suggestion, the trust was broken, and it was game over. After that, anyone would strongly suspect that it was only a matter of time before she would find a way to cheat.
Only the wise realize that what they have now is what they really wanted and hoped to have years before. If you constantly chase for more, different, better it leads to a lifetime of disappointment.
Stupid 304…….
Wow, they both daft.
So, she gets wedding jitters and envys her friends for the butterflys at every new date. If she had a real talk with them about that and her feelings of missing out, I bet most of them would call her out on it and assure her that they would rather have what she already has - or had befor she obsessed about her jitters.
Than the "trip to London", which was conviniently exactly as long as she suggests the break, which of course isn't suspecious.
And it doesn't even occur to her that maybe her deception might work better somewhere farther away where the chance of being spotted by someone they know would be lower? Really brilliant.
His first mistake - assuming he doesn't want to end things with her from the start - is not really talking with her, digging for the root of her feelings. Is her idea stupid? Of course. But it would have been more productive if he tried to remain calm and empathatic, if he had really helped her unearthing and expressing her feelings. Then both of them should sleep over it - separate. Then again talk. He really quickly resorts to threats of breaking up.
Furthermore, the three months trip mentioned above, why does he not at least wonder about the coincidence? And his wonder about how much he misses his fiancée after two weeks, the woman he loves is baffleling.
Lastly, while I get that revenge might taste sweet, what he does is good for neither them nor their friends or relatives. By letting her run in his trip he is wasting his own time, time he could use in starting to move on, only revelling in the hurt, the grudge and the anger. He is also wasting the time and possibly ressources of their families and friends. Remember, there is a wedding coming up. And assuming there already is a date set (at least a time frame), they might already be preparing gifts and arrangements for their stays. If you know you want to cancel the wedding, then don't wait for weeks until you do it but do it right away and inform your friends and family right away. It is a show of respect for them. And by the way, by confronting her right away, in person or by call or by just rending her the picture, you would ruin the rest of her happy charade, make her realize the full extend of her choice while she has all this free time without distraction - that's also quite a satisfying revenge.
Strange how she never ran back to her last affair partner after the break up with Richie.
He should have insisted that he would pick her up at the airport.
What your single friends are experiencing is called new relationship energy or NRE. It usually fizzles out in about six months. You likely experienced this with Richie as the wedding date approached. If you felt as strongly about NRE then it might be better to settle into an ethical non-monogamous relationship. You may not find a life partner but the experience will satisfy your curiosity. Search websites in your area for non-monogamous couples to start your adventure.
Why does OP have to be an idiot. Should have broken the moment she brought the idea
Sorry don't believe it woman NEVER ACCEPT ACCOUNTABILITY!
Why must you write the guy as a complete loser?
I'm not sure why everyone is getting so excited about this obviously fictional story.
"I'm in London working hard. Missing You." She says to her fiance.
Both are IT experts wheras the person who who created this fairy story clearly is clueless.
Anything sent over the internet can be tracked to a location or if the location is masked that shows up too.
A photo of her in front of Big Ben can be seen to have been faked!
The moral of this fairy tale is if you are in a relationship and anything changes DO NOT IGNORE IT.
Hope you have heard about VPNs and other masking techniques apart from green screen etc. You make it sound as if when somebody sends a fake picture then internet will stamp it as FAKE before the receiver sees it. Being an IT expert does not mean you have domain expertise in all fields