Range Rover Sport Vs Triton - Battle of the tyres
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2010
- The Hayes Clan punt their fully decked-out Mitsu Triton complete with new BFG Muddies against the Gilmore Clan's Range Rover Sport with Cooper A/T's.
The Result: You can't beat traction when it comes to mud! - Авто та транспорт
Great show of how important the right tire is!
Man that dude in the RR can absolutely not drive and with those tires.... it shows how good the RR actually is!
Thank you for not ruining your vids with shitty country music or cock rock music in the background. Nice work. 'Subscribed'
Really enjoyable.. that confirms the tyres for me!
Thank you
The Mitsu back seats actually have a angle on them, they are very comfy for a large adult on long hauls.
The Rangie certainly is luxury on wheels.
Once you're out of the mud you can punt it around the black top like a race car. So much fun to drive on road and so comfortable. The big leather seats with fold down arm rests are like sitting back in a lounge chair. The Triton by comparison is like most work utes. You wouldn't choose one as an on-road only vehicle.
I would!
As per the earlier comments - offroad it all starts and ends with traction - and that comes down primarily to tyres. A mild A/T has less than a quarter of the traction of a mud tyre that is also designed to spit out the muck as it goes. In muddy conditions, A/T's just don't cut it no matter how good the traction gizmos. What is more interesting is that the Rangie was able to even get up there on that rubber.
I love my Rangies, but that Triton is awesome.. its seems a lot more effortless etc..
They are showing the significance of each tire, not the trucks quality. It's impressive the rr made it through with the tires it had
The Range Rover has diff locks as well as ride height adjustment, dont talk shit mate
This video has been really useful for helping me pick my tyres, I am going with the Cooper ST MAXX.
Great video, rare to find informative vid`s like this, its given me a bit more direction on tires for my pb challenger
you have to remember that the RRS is essentially a short wheel base D3 with stiffer suspension. It also has independent suspension all around and cars with that system combined with the shorter wheel base and harder suspension will get a lot of wheel lift. Having recently been out testing a new 200series Cruiser though we saw a lot of similar dynamics including the continual wheel lift.
I would love to see what the RRS would handle like if it was fitted with BFG Muddies too.
Range Rover driver on more road tyres seemed to have one option for any water obstacle.... "Full Send" lol
Great Video. The ending was Super..
Probably need to look at the tyres again for clues as to why you would need two different driving techniques. In really muddy conditions like this you have to do a lot of compensating if you are running A/T's (as compared to the mud terrains on the Triton) In the RRS, the traction control also helps but only to a limited degree. Most cars on A/T's wouldn't make it through some of those sections. The main compensation is that you need more momentum to get through each section.
Another great example of how capable land rovers are off road straight out the showroom! Imagine if the RR had decent rubber on it! Cant be sure for certain but was there a locker on the back of the triton?
Great vid, thanks for sharing.
@landrovertractorboat
Thx mate - we are really enjoying documenting some of our adventures. They are a great learning tool and a good reminder about what not to do in some situations.
Still looking for a set of muddies - having probs finding something less than 32" diameter to fit an 18" rim.
Surprisingly, the Triton, in spite of having a longer wheelbase, overhangs and prolly more weight, performed as good as the RRS. Also, the Triton driver seemed to know his vehicle better. Tires definitely made a significant difference.
Great video, rare to find informative vid`s like this, its given me a bit more direction on tires for my pb challenger. dose the triton have rear diff lock and are the mud tires standard size. As it is hard to find suitable off road for the challenger
@d3syd
the vids were shot on a variety of tracks in the Watagans. the midder roads included Wave Rock and the Road around Mt Warrawolong coming in from Koala Rd end.
That's beutiful.Really awesome what that machines can do (in the right hands... of course...)
Im just glad to see your using the rangie for off road use =)
Great video thumbs up to the person filming 👍
That would generally be the the wife
The range rover guy has to put the steering straight not just left and right jiggling.
Thats the reason range rover over working the ass off !
In some sections I'd have to agree varun but in others, with the light tread of the tyres completely clogged with mud and clay, it was the only way to try and find some traction. Bloody great fun though ;-)
Misadventure 4WD Enjoy !! :)
@william49suzuki The Sport has an intercooler and one of the big jobs is keeping the mud out of it. The intercooler is set very low at the front of the engine and there is actually now a kit available for a high mount intercooler with wider fins specifically designed for offroad.
At $1400 its still a ways down the list of options I need to bolt on.
Rock sliders are next ;-)
This is not a full RR but a Range Rover Sport with a 2.7ltr turbo deisel putting out around 440nm of torque. It does weigh in at 2.5 tonnes though. DOn't forget that in this video, the Triton (L200) is running BFG mud tyres and the RRS only has Cooper All Terrains on it.
The section about the tyres pointing in the wrong direction was a test we ran to see if the A/T's combined with the traction control would have enough grip to climb out of the deep ruts. Close but no cigar. I think it would do it with the muddies on. You can see how easily it handles the same section on the return run through a few moments later. Have to say that the Cooper LTZ all terrains are by far one of the best A/T's on the market.
Do people just not read the vid title?... lol. Great vid cobber. Cheers for the share.
Nice vids,just curious, is the RR and the other red Disco on other of your videos have front lockers? Thks. As a member from Caribbean Rovers Puerto Rico.
@bcatz454 I was joking with my mate in the Triton about how good the Cooper A/T's were and was bragging that they could even pull me out of the deep ruts on this well known puddle. It was close but no cigar this time. We've done this section more than a few times for fun and it was just a bit of experimenting to see how far I could push it.
Must remember to go back and try out the new STT Muddies on that section.
Triton is running 33inch BFG muddies. The diff locks are aftermarket ARB lockers front and rear.
@blibbax it dose allow you to put bigger tyres on and therefore give u more ground clearance
Nice to see it's about the performance of the tyres and not who's 4wd is better.
In the mudpit at around 1:15 or so, why did the rr sport have the wheels turned to the right instead of going right through?
This just goes to show how good the Range is! Think about it, the RRS did just about everything, all while having shit tires! Imagine if it had some beefy tread it probably would have crawled over the tree they had to chainsaw! LoL! I like RRS not a huge fan but still like them. I own 2008 Lexus GX470. Just FYI. And I'm looking to do some off roading. The closest place to me is Rausch Creek in PA, since I'm in Philly, hopefully I can go but if you look it up its pretty crazy there! Almost need mods for everything!
It is clear than the wheels makes the differences, becuase the LR is better but with mud wheels are key.
The discovery ddint have the TC engaged by the look of it.
We have a lot of different vehicles in our club and there are pros and cons to all of them. Sometimes it's the diff wheelbase that helps/hinders them in certain sections, sometimes it is the clearance etc.
In the end it's just personal preference and just because one person likes one brand/model doesn't mean they are right or wrong about anything.
this just goes to show what a land rover is all about. If you notice the range rover has no problem with the course and with only street tires, and the other vehicle is modified
I know this is 5 years back, but except for Tyres, there is no suspension mod or 4x4 performance mods on the triton
Me puedes ayudar con las medidas de la llanta y marca de la RANGE ROVER por favor
triton made it look easier than range. better tyres, driver or or a well worthy off road beater ? my kuddos for making a pleasurable viewing. well done
Great video guys. One things that’s always puzzled me is why oh why do people cut trees just enough to barely squeeze a car through!? One or two cuts further up the trunk - same amount of cutting but wider space (yes, I always cut more than just enough if possible).
Good question mate. Sometimes it accessibility but usually additional time to remove larger sections depending on where you are on the track and how you have to get back to wherever you're going.
Out of interest, I notice you have NSW plates :) whereabouts is this, and where do you recommend going (Newcastle, Hunter Region)? I just bought a 2005 L322 Vogue, and looking for somewhere to go camping etc
Was looking at getting a 2004 Vogue. Are all the horror stories true I read online about the transmission failures and that they have a service life of 130,000klms only? Also lots of other transmission issues and electrical faults. I like the 2004 model the most but are there other models better?
I realize this is an old post but I was wondering where in the watagans ie which trails you were on?
Some of those trails look familiar, I think I've taken my Q5 on some of those (In dry weather) trails. I've done some of Whitemans lane, Watagan forest road through to Wollembi, New mill road, The Null, Lemon Tree & Yambo Forest Road. Am I in the same area?
so off road triton is superior to the rangies? (pls answer) despite the technologies the rangies have?. the only thing i hate about double cabin is the back seat just to straight up, that must be unconfortable on a long journey at the back...anyway its a good mild track right there...
The V6 turbo spurl in the range rover...
Perfeito a l200 triton, muita clareza a tranquilidade para superar os obstáculos....
You can option the Triton from the factory with a rear locker. The Triton didn't have them for this vid but does now have front and rear lockers.
yes they are same i think. and we called it mitsubishi strada in philippines :)
correct me if Im wrong, the L200 is doing better than the RR. Does it have diff Locks?
Just a thought, but wouldn't it be easier to just pull that tree trunk out to the edge?
'twas a mighty oak my friend and was lodged in thick undergrowth. Was no way we were moving it anywhere ;-)
Genuinely impressed with the Rangie!
It's actually a very steep section. The video doesn't do it justice. The ruts are also deep enough to have you dragging your belly through lots of sections so you need 4WD to keep any kind of traction.
no tiene diferencial auto blocante la RR????
that's one sick looking triton...
Interesting. The RRS always has one wheel lifted off the ground while negotiating challenging parts, while the Triton seems like it has all 4 wheels planted 90% of the time.
Mate, you certainly seem to attract some weirdass critics, who did you offend in a past life? Love your vids, keep up the good work.
Is the RR the supercharged HSE model or no?
Correct:
Better tires on the L200, the RR tires in the mud were just coated and couldnt shed the mud in order to get good grip.
Plus a better driver in the L200 compared to the RR, he seemed to not know where his front wheels were pointing and was pretty heavy on the gas by the sounds of things.
As for diffs, the RR has centre locking diff (if turned on) and I dont know about the L200.
:)
@MegaJosh747
No air lockers on the triton
will check on his tyres and get back to you. They are definitely not standard size and are on custom steel rims
No probs with the clearance, but the weight of that rig on the steep slope on what is a permanently wet section of clay track would probably pull it up in 2WD. Would love to see you have a go though ;-)
@TheMr3742 Since that trip it has a new winch on the front and bash plate along with some big spotties on the roof plus bigger muddies. Positively beastie now ;-)
SOOOOOOOOOOO SEXY!!!!!!!! I LOVE RANGE ROVERS AND CANNOT WAIT TO GET MY NEW ONE (in 3 days she’ll be delivered!!!!) I just sold my 2008 to my cousin, should’ve went off roading in it! But this Sport one is sexy too! The other truck is keeping up!
In Australia they are badges as a Mitsubishi Triton
I’m impressed with the range Rover Sport. I got an 08 tdv8 and was unaware it was this good??
What tyres are on this?
They are Cooper LTZ All Terrains
The terrain response and traction control for offroad is very good these days..look at the Mercedes GLK. I agree the weigh kills the RR =(
Depends where you are located mate. There are lots of tracks in and around the Watagans near Newcastle that includes a few nice camping grounds. YOu can also head a little further north to the Barrington Tops. There's a video on here somewhere with footage of our xmas trundle there. Send me a PM with your email and I'll shoot you through some info and gps coords.
Around $3k for ARB front and rear lockers including the compressor, airlines, switches etc.
minh o ngoai thanh khong co xe hoi nhung minh rat me off road.mong mot ngay nao do uoc mo cua minh se thanh su that.chuc cac ban dam me off road luon co duoc niem vui va hanh phuc.minh thay misu off road rat tot
so it looks like diff locks and mud tyres are better than traction control and road tyres in the mud.... who would have guessed
u should test them on road too.
foarte fain
do the triton is fitted with ARB AIRLOCKER
Can you please tell me, what roof rack does the Range Rover Sport have on top?
Its a rhino rack buddy
The RR would have done better on the trails if the driver knew how to navigate the terrain as well as the MT driver. His front tires were always crossing the drive line of the trail making it more difficult than it had to be.
Mine is the 2.7 turbo diesel. Amazing fuel economy. I get about 10L/100kms on the blacktop.
the triton is equiped with diff lock, and the RR isn't
The RR driver needs to know which way his front tyres are pointing... interesting to hear how much harder the RR is working, presumably compensating for the traction control applying the brakes all the time. It also seems very short on articulation. The Triton looks more at home.
the RR is luxurious and very comfortable on road compared to the triton. While the triton in the other hand is cheaper and with the money you get RR, you could build a very offroad capable triton with lockers, tires and other extras. It's really about what kind of vehicle you are after. Both great vehicles for their purpose. :)
The triton has aftermarket tires, and difflock which give it some advantage on here. But in the other hand, the triton also is clearly lighter and has more flexible suspension because of live rear axle. Overall can't say which is superior or actually better, does it even matter? They are quite different type of vehicles anyway,
I agree - it could be down to better driver skills but the Mitsi looked casual in the way it dominated. The landy was having to build up speed to charge through a lot of stuff because you and I know it wasnt going to get there. Having to nag it about to get through looked like a repair bill waiting to happen.
Tyres, tyres, tyres.
the triton is eating it up out there, good value them tritons.
How much did you pay for labor?
La única diferencia o desventaja que puede tener la RR son las llantas, es una cuestión muy simple,y se puede ver la gran importancia de una buena elección de llantas, el taco de una llanta MUD es mucho mejor en muchas situaciones que el de una AT, y depende mucho de que tipo de AT sea también, la RR dio una batalla fuerte gracias a la gran cantidad de capacidades 4x4 y tecnología con las que cuenta, siendo impresionante todo. Pongan unas MUD en una RR y llegara a donde sea.
yeah , but look at the tires on the triton and then on the rr
can you guys match up the range rover sports to toyota hilux interms of offroading like you guys did this video
Spencer Ntow "ooo
Why ooooo
Can't it be done
I can't wait to see such a video
me encanta las aventuras 4x4 admiro los toyotas series 200 gx
quiero uno ................................. el Range Rover
Why didn't they just use the winch on the Triton to move that tree out off the trail? Is that not allowed in Australia?
It was too large my friend and ran right down the bank.
G'day to everyone at Carribean Rovers Puerto Rico! Glad you were able to drop in for a look at our vids. In answer to your question.... No. Neither vehicle has lockers. The RRS has the standard centre lock differential and traction control. The D2 has a manually locked centre differential and tractions control (circa 2000 version).
Glad you like the vids. More coming your way soon including offroad tests of our new toy, a fully kitted out SVX Defender!
Cheers
ah, I see. thx for the explanation.
With the tires and torque diesel Triton, you can not compete. And yet, the Range does the same, the same sistios passes smoothly. And if we compare the interior of the vehicle, there is no color.
the triton uses locker front/rear?
both mate
I'm surprised the sport with those tyres managed to get any where. its not even a proper off roader. well done for getting it out in one piece.
Shame the RR Sport didn't have mud-terrains on but it did well with the A/Ts. I know which of the two I would prefer for every day use. I have Cooper LTZ's fitted to a 'grown up' Range Rover and I think these are better than the A/Ts. The Nitto Terra Grapplere are better than both but noisier on the road. For every day and off road use the LTZs Rule...
Kind off stupid comparison. The Triton has true off-road tires. Put those tires on the RR too
all cars would do that if you change the tires like this
Next time swap tires and lets see how it goes.. respect to both vehicles- rr sport sc owner
Got a bit carried away with the right foot ;)