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LANDCRUISER 200 | How much does my LC200 actually weigh!? | Why you need a GVM Upgrade | 4WD Touring
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- Today I talk briefly about the modifications I done on my 2014 Toyota Landcruiser Sahara 200 series that affect the vehicles weight.
We then empty the car out and take it over a registered weigh bridge to see exactly how much this vehicle weighs and why I definitely NEED a GVM upgrade!
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Just about every 200 you see with a van on is over remember some of the vans are 300kg on the ball. Great to see someone who actually ownes one share the info good stuff mate.
I agree and the scary part is, most people would be blissfully unaware of this fact.
Thanks mate, appreciate the comments.
This is a real eye opener and shows how the vehicle manufactures are happy to sell 4x4 vehicles that are not fit for the purposes they are generally used in Australia. I have a 20 year old Defender 110 and it eclipses most other manufacturers in payload of 960kgs and GCM 6,600kgs. I know the Sarah is safer, quiter has more power and much better brakes than my old truck but at least I don't have to worry every time I take the rig past the cops and scalies.
G’day Graham. Just last week I came across your videos. You are completely right ! A: the LC 200 should be also in Australia standard rated GVM 3,800kg. B: anybody not doing a GVM upgrade and loads his car and have some accessories on it runs illegal in OZ and is dangerous to other people and that’s a no go in my book! Yes, my 200 has an GVM, brake and tire upgrade, and with twin spare wheel carrier and 180 ltr subtank plus drifta drawer set and basic tools inside weights in 3,200kg. Adding 250 ltr Diesel and 150kg for driver and co driver and a roof rack goes close to maximum. Towing a trailer with 250 kg ball weight ontop even the 3800 kg upgrade would be not enough. So the 2nd. Row seat have to go out ? Stay safe during C-19 and save trips in future. Cheers
If only Toyota Australia would listen to their customers and help make this happen. It’s scary just to think how many people are driving around out there completely unaware of these limits.
Well done on a great video. In the video you mention that the specified Kerb Weight includes 10 to 20 litres of fuel but in the Australian Design Rules Tare is defined as including 10 litres of fuel and Kerb is with the fuel tank full. We have a 2019 200 series VX and had our dealer weigh one at the local weighbridge prior to purchase. It had the Low Fuel Light on and weighed 2740kg so allowing for a full fuel tank an estimated 90 to 100kg heavier than the specified value. When we got our GVM upgrade installed the installer told me that the Sahara is about 40kg heavier than the VX. I have checked the axle weights on our vehicle and it is interesting to know that a 200 Series with a number of front accessories such as steel bull bar and 2nd battery etc can exceed the front axle rating if not towing. Once again an great video.
Thanks John. Yeah, it just goes to show how quickly these values can add up when modifying these vehicles like so many of us do. I have noticed that the front axle is technically over the rated value, but I've also found out that since I've had my GVM kit installed, ARB now certify an increase in that front axle load. I don't believe they have changed their kit at all, however they are now able to legal certify this increase.
With all these modifications, weights, limits etc, I certainly can get mighty confusing when deciding what to do to our vehicles.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks.
Like a lot of us with the 200 series LC's & Patrol owners out there, once we put them on the BBQ plate (weighbridge) we quickly learn that a GVM upgrade is needed & you think all will be ok & sorted right? WRONG, this is what I went through just like you did, except my fully laden weight was 3400 Kgs, with passengers & ready to go with a full tank of fuel & a few tools in the back. Like yourself, no rear tyre carriers or long range fuel tank, I don't even have a roof rack. I have drawers the same as you & a fridge, ARB Bullbar with winch. I am registered in Victoria so I have the unfair advantage of getting both the GVM & GCM upgrades done POST registration. I had the Lovells stage 1 kit installed which gave me 3800 GVM & 7300GCM, so you would think that if I was to hook up my van which weighs in at 3,400Kgs & a tow ball down load of 350KGS I would be fine right as I have 400 Kg's spare & I am only using 350 of it. This is where no one has worked out that I am still over loaded on the rear axle due to the Fulcrum effect of the 350 Kgs tow ball down load weight which actually adds 510 Kgs to the rear axle & not 350 Kgs. Prior to hooking up the van the front axle weighed in at 1,780 Kgs & the rear of course was 1620 Kgs, 380 Kgs spare on the rear until I dropped the van onto the ball, the rear axle then weighed in at 2,130 Kgs whilst the front weighed in at 1,620 Kgs. Over on the rear by 130 Kgs & if caught, put off the road on the spot with a hefty fine, several demerit points as a bonus. Plus you're not covered by your insurance should anything go wrong! By adding weight to the rear of the vehicle you lift the front slightly (as most of us would have noticed from time to time), this transfers the weight from the front axle & adds it to the rear. It can be calculated by multiplying it by 1.45 time the tow ball weight. After spending nearly $6,000 on getting it all installed, certified and approved by the engineers & Vic Roads I am still not legal (very gutting). The only way I can get it legal is by using a Weight Distribution hitch or spend another $6,000 & getting stage 3 installed & certified, but then your ride becomes very rough of course. Keeping in mind the rear axle maximum limit is 2,000 Kgs & the front axle limit is 1,800 Kgs, how many people have actually weighed the axles separately which is the procedure that the Police or Scallies use? Regards, Garry.
I see where you are coming from here and many people do forget about the axle limits too.
I guess it depends on how much you are carrying and what you plan on towing. There is a point where the 200 Series Landcruiser just isn't going to be a suitable vehicle when considering how much you are bringing on the trip. This is where light trucks and 6 wheelers come into their own.
Saying that, there are so many combinations and types of setups to mitigate and assist weight distribution, but in the end it's up to each and every individual to weigh and confirm their personal levels.
Cheers, Nathan.
Kerb weight is defined as a full tank of Fuel, as opposed to the Patrol for example that uses TARE and that DOES NOT include fuel
2011 GXL with front and rear bar, winch, bash plates, Rhino Rack, rear wheel carrier, twin jerry can holder (empty), rear draws with some gear, long range tank full (273ltrs) and myself sits at 3650kg. Loaded and with caravan attached it sits at 4100kg, big thanks to Australian Expedition Vehicles for their 4200kg GVM upgrade.
That’s a heavy vehicle mate! 👍
Great eye opening vid mate. My new Sahara weighs in at 3350kg kerb weight with accessories added 😳😳. Upgraded to 4015kgs GVM pre rego. Nice and legal now. Does not take much to go over stock GVM. 👍
It is amazing how quickly the weight adds up, just with basic 4WD modifications and without trip gear! Good to hear you upgraded, seems to be so much easier, pre-rego than post.
Muzza - how does it ride - trying to decide 3850 vs 4015. Lover the extra 165kg but worried about being too stiff when I take the 2 wheels off the rear bar.
Thats a hell of a lot heavier than I would have guessed. I've got a Discovery 3 - front ARB bar, winch, 100L aux fuel tank, kaymar twin spare are the main add on's. That come out to 3T without me in it. No GVM upgrade options however
For sure, very heavy vehicle. Just goes to show how much these vehicle vary from manufacture to manufacturer.
Can’t believe it’s so close to gvm with essentially only a bullbar and drawer system, crazy.
We went around Australia in a gu towing a 23 footer and when I weighed the car mid trip it was 700kg over gvm with 2 adults 2 kid and the dog plus only general tools and spares in the car and ball weight.
Great vid mate.
Yeah, it sure surprised me! They have to be soo many people running around overweight! Thanks mate 👍
XploringOz yeh absolutely. We have seen some unbelievably loaded rigs while on the road.
Interesting, I have the same vehicle (2013 VX). Tare weight without driver and 20 litres of fuel was 3100Kgs. Same bar and winch and suspension, bigger batteries, but no roof rack, only false floor and cargo barrier in the back, and I took off my spare wheel for weighing, BUT I have full rear bar with 2 swingaways, braced rock sliders AND custom offroad bash plates.
It sure doesn't take much to fill these vehicles up. I guess once you add a driver and fill the tanks you would be in a similar situation?
Hi XploringOz , my LC 200 is 2017 Altitude. I have steel bar ,dual battery draw system full tank and wife and I (135 kg both off us) 3100 kg over the scales I have a 3650 kg upgrade. Caravan has 280kg TBW .going to fit a
winch nothing going to fit anything else.you are 100% correct with weights. Ian
Yeah, it sure fills up very quickly. I couldn't believe that my cruiser was at 3300kg without a single piece of gear. I know the vehicle if fairly modified, but I didn't realise it would be that heavy! I would hate to think about how many people are driving around out there, completely unaware of their weights.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Cheers, Nathan.
I had to do the same to the Prado, was coming in at 2900 no passengers with a GVM of 2990 that was never going to work, I used an independent engineer to obtain a GVM upgrade on my current suspension allowing me to have a GVM of 3400. I did not want to use the Lovells or Pedders kits, I think that was all that is available for Prado, so now my better Konis and Lovells springs are compliant. happy days, pitty Toyota don't rate these cars for the way we actually use them.
Yeah, would be awesome if Oz had a manufacture that could build some stronger rated vehicles.
I saw the video on your Prado, looks good 👍 That is a decent GVM upgrade for a Prado.
I’ll have another video similar to this one with the Prado 150. That one doesn’t have a GVM upgrade though...
How much did the independent engineer cost and any dept. of transport fees?
Sean Smart it’s all here mate: How to get a GVM Upgrade with your current Lift Kit! ua-cam.com/video/51qlzDrsPYk/v-deo.html
@@ShoeysAdventures Okay thanks I'll have a watch :)
The numbers on these modern cars are so crazy to me. My classic Range Rover is 1.85T completely empty with a 2.75T max GVM
For sure! They are a lot heavier, but they have soo much more that older vehicles don’t have. Each to their own, both vehicles will probably make it there, each will have their own style and comfort levels.
Cheers for watching 👍
This is crazy, using the car as it’s intended will almost definitely put you over the GVM.
For sure, can’t believe how quickly it filled up!!
Did the same exercise in my 2009 D40 Navara - GVM 2805kg; completely empty except full 140L tank of fuel came in at 2400kg. So I went down the upgrade path bringing the GVM up to 3215kg. Will still need to keep an eye on the weight after I stick the camper trailer on the back...
It doesn't take long to fill up, does it? GVM kits are almost a must for us 4WD'ers who modify our cars. Thanks for watching mate.
@@XploringOz Not to mention drawers, 2nd battery, fridge, etc... man, I'm getting scared about the next trip to the weigh bridge. And mine is just touring, no off road gear at all.
Yeah, I think the manufactures need to start considering making vehicles with more wriggle room in there GVM allowance.
Don’t underestimate the Holden Colorado. I have a 2019 LS model. Kerb weight of 2065kg….GMV of 3150kg so a payload of 1085kg. Has a towing capacity of 3500kg (braked) & torque of 500Nm. I’m towing a 2500kg Millard…..perfect!!
For sure, I have found most Utes have a much bigger payload due to the lighter nature of their design, however this is sometimes traded off with weight distribution on the vehicle (not always an issue), which is something I have tried to get right for the harder off-road tracks.
Cheers, Nathan.
I have a G Class Professional wagon. Loaded up for a week of camping with firewood, water etc etc it sits at 3300kg. The GVM is 3560kg. The thing has a 1200kg payload, in a bloody wagon!
Thats some awesome payload figures! Only wish the cruiser had something like that!
It’s interesting to read TOYOTA saying that the lc300 will be fit for purpose. I’m skeptical that it will have a decent payload
Yeah, time will tell. Too bad they don’t make a model with 4WD’ers, tourers and tow’ers in mind.
My 2016 Sahara weighs around 3250 including driver and 138L fuel and it only has a bullbar, winch, dual batteries and twin subwoofers.
It definitely doesn’t take much to fill these cars up...
Nath. Did you forget to mention that any GVM upgrade doesn't affect the GCVM ? Thought one would install a "Milford" cargo barrier between the second row seats and storage drawers to hopefully protect the kiddies in a crash mista ! V.
Yes, this is true. GCM can't be altered after registration.
Yeah, I have thought about this, however generally I'm towing and very little (moveable) objects are placed in the rear that would pose any issue. I would probably lean towards some sort of soft barrier, just for is flexibility and ability to be removed easily.
Some good info and advice 👍 I run a 2013 Hilux which I weighed in full ‘camping’ trim; all recovery and camping gear , the Waeco and 15l of water. With me in it (90kg +) I was at 2.6t. Under GVM but a lot closer than I thought. I reckon a lot of people who buy LC200’s don’t realize how little payload they have as standard. You are correct; how many run over GVM ?
Thanks mate. It adds up so quickly when we start packing our cars up. I was very surprised with my LC200! Hopefully this may raise some awareness.
Thats actually a really good on your rig loaded for camping mate. Completely empty just me and a full long range tank of diesel (140L), plus the bullbar and all the rest of the usual 4wd additions i weigh in at 3T on my Ranger, GVM is 3200kg. put my 95L waeco fully loaded and some water and my dog and i am at GVM
I love the detail you go into with your videos,
I have a 2014 200 series and recently purchased a set of drawers for it,
Upon weighing the vehicle with the drawers (empty ) and a full fuel and just me as a driver the figure came in at 2690kg.
This looks fine, but when I go into it further with a fridge ( also empty ), drop down fridge slide and just one passenger the weights climb.
Add just a few tools and an empty caravan tow ball weight of 148kg I am overweight.
Looking around at a GVM upgrade and visiting a couple of installers who suggested I remove the rear seat belts and have the vehicle declassed as a 5 seater as with the seatbelts left in the vehicle as with yours it remains a 7 seater and with each seat the distributed weight is something like 32kg per seat.
Do you know of this ? and if so what are the benefits for and against making it a 5 seater on the compliance.
My head is spinning trying to work it out!
Overloading your vehicle and driving it in top gear in a manual is one of the reasons why the gearbox goes. Same effect as pulling a heavy trailer
There definitely is a point where it would be better to drive in 5th gear, but I think you’ll find the 200 will choose 5th gear with larger tyres and heavier weight anyway 👍
Great video ! Thanks for sharing. I've just bought a 200 VX and will be picking it up next week with a GVM upgrade. I'll be setting it up pretty much how you have and I'm surprised at those figures. I'll be towing a caravan so I'll be sure to keep an eye out on the weight. Again, a great video with some very good information. Cheers !
Thanks for that feedback mate. Glad it helped you out 👍
Great vid mate, i am in the market now for the gvm upgrade, we have a 22ft JB dirt road extreme van, only new. and a 2012 sahara. I may only go the ome not bp51 to save SOME money🤔..much more study required on my behalf but this vid is great
Thanks mate 👍 glad you enjoyed the video. I’d be really interested to see what you think of the dirt road extreme. Thinking of that van for a potential upgrade. Hit us up on our Facebook page if your keen for a chat 👍
Great clip 👌🏼
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
At least you guys can upgrade your GVM, here in the states, it is what it is, the end. Great video.
Thanks mate! Yeah, it is a good, albeit a little confusing process. Do you know whether you guys get a greater GVM from factory in the states though?
I think all us Aussies are jealous of the selection of pickup's you guys have. If only we had F trucks, RAM's and Silverado's at reasonable prices over here... We are looking at about 150k AUD for a Silverado here in Aus
@@XploringOz I shouldn't tell you this, buuuuuuuuut we have a Ram 3500 that we have outfitted with AEV bumper, lift (37's), Decked (careful if you google these guys once, you'll see their ads for probably a year!).
Our 200 has on the sticker in the door 7,385 lbs for GVWR, ours has a -12 pound sticker I believe for the tv screens on the seats? I believe we are the same as you guys. Mind you, nobody is really anal about the weights, yet. Rumors are building that Colorado and California are pulling people over when they're obviously over gross. You can do pretty much whatever you want here, but it can come back on you in court, if you have an accident.
Should not of told me about that! 🤣 jealous much! I’d love to see your truck mate, if your keen, flick a photo through on our Facebook page.
Right, it does sounds like they are the same. Sounds like your winning with the relaxed enforcement though. It’s not too bad here, but I can see it tightening more and more in the future.
Excellent info mate thanks
Thanks mate 👍
interesting, my VW Touareg lists "kerb weight with driver" as 2599kg.
it has a roof rack and some ali' bash plates and it hit 2980kg on the scales
Yeah, every manufacturer will have a slightly different way of measuring their weights. As long as you aware of what that is, then it is possible to accurate gauge your loading situation.
My Cruiser 200 empty weight with bullbar, roofrack, Roof top tent, 138 fuel and driver is 3064kg. Can't see how you have 435kg more than me in the empty unloaded state. Extras you have: snorkel, bigger wheels and tyres, drawer system. But I have a 80kg Roof Top Tent and removed third row seats (-40kg). Maths isn't working out here.
Maybe you're a power lifter? I weigh 85kg...How heavy are those baby seats?
Was looking at 3850 and 4015 post rego GVM upgrade... looks like 4015 it is...
Yes mate, I would highly recommend the 4015kg kit.
I'll be releasing a video on my weights in the near future and you'll know why I recommend this kit then....
Cheers, Nathan.
Kerb weight is full fluids with full tank of fuel and Tare weight is fluids with 10L of fuel ?
Great video XploringOZ I have a 2017 Toyota LandCruiser 200 series Sahara model 4.5 V8 TTD and it has been fitted with an Alloy Bullbar, Safari Snorkel, Roof Rack Kayak Carrier, ARB Awning, UHF Antenna, ClearView Towing Mirrors and a Tow Bar on it and Do you know what the weight is with all the accessories I mentioned above on it, with a Kayak on the roof rack and 2 Dogs in the back, And I’m towing a 2.7 Ton Jayco StarCraft Caravan when empty and 3.1 Ton when fully loaded and I’m planning on travelling to Esperance, Albany, Busselton, Pemberton and Kalgoorlie in the December holidays and the July 2023 Holidays and do you know what the GCM weight is
Great video! Would you buy a LC200 again over say a LC300 all things considered in terms of price etc?
Ahh, that's a hard one. I'd probably still stick with the 200 series at the moment, given the more options in the market. This being said, the 300 sure looks like a great package 👍
Damn, looks the Patrol Y62 has a better payload or maybe stick with a Prado for it’s lighter.
Each of those vehicles are awesome choices. I guess it comes down to what you are using the vehicle for and where you plan on taking it. Every purchase is a compromise to some extent. If there was a perfect vehicle, everyone would own it.
This cruiser works well for me and I'm willing to put up with the compromises it brings.
Cheers, Nathan.
Beautiful motor would love to own one ,but would not be able to afford to run it, due to fuel prices here in the UK .
That’s too bad. What are some of the more popular off-road vehicles over there?
@@XploringOz
Land rover discovery, nissan pathfinder, Toyota hilux ,Mitsubishi ls200 .
Just been looking a importing a jdm prado to the uk they seem to be half the price of a uk one if i can get a diesel version, as diesel is $2.32 AUD at the moment, and would just keep my old car for day to driving, and use the prado for weekend trips . Hopefully get a good one for around £17,000
Still a reasonable selection of vehicles there, but that diesel price is crazy!! I thought it was bad here when it got to $1.60 AUD!! The most I’ve ever had to pay in Aus is 2.99p/L, but that was in a remote cattle station without much choice around 🤣 good luck with the JDM hunting, sounds like a great idea 👍
Hi great video I have a suspension up grad from ARB but was told then did not get give me a GVM upgrade what did you get for the upgrade please we are in Perth
Hey mate, to be honest it would probably be best to speak with ARB in relation to getting a GVM upgrade with a already fitted kit. There is a series of particular parts that are required and need to be signed off on, before having an authorised inspector review the install. Otherwise, you could also take your current setup to an engineer to have the whole vehicle assessed for its suitability for a GVM upgrade.
Cheers, Nathan.
Good vid👍
Thanks mate, appreciate the support.
Be interesting to know what the stats are in Australia’s for being over the GVM and it either directly causing an accident or damage to the vehicle when driven safely. How much of a buffer is in this from the manufacture.
I’d suggest a large majority of touring 4WDs you see out and about fully loaded wouldn’t have GVMs.
My understanding of GVM upgrades are mainly shocks and springs, is that correct? If that’s the case then how effective are standard spring and shock swaps from factory, to say something like an old man emu or TJM spring/shock lift?
Sure would an interesting fact to have a look into. Although I do believe these vehicles can handle a lot more then our laws allow, being overweight, without the proper gear or knowledge is dangerous.
I think there would be a huge amount of vehicles on our roads overweight, with most people completely unaware.
Most GVM upgrade, including on my LC200 are just springs and shocks, but there are options for higher limits that include full axles replacements along with other mods. Further, if you are upgrading the springs and shocks without GVM compliance etc, the benefit would come in larger and more efficient shocks, providing better dampening and less heat fade.
Cheers, Nathan.
i looked into the same gvm upgrade as you have but was put off when arb offered to sell me the parts but wouldn't have anything to do with the install or engineering. local 4wd shop is doing a lovels 4000 gvm upgrade as a drive in drive out fully engineered i couldn't say no
Yeah, I could understand why that would put you off. Strange to hear they stated that. ARB don't actually complete the 'inspection' and approval of the kit, this is done by an independent vehicle assessor. Was your local dealer a ARB stockist, rather than a direct ARB outlet?
Lovels is a great kit too
@@XploringOz hey mate they are a direct store. The store im getting it done at has its own weigh bridge will be fully installed wheel alignment and they organise the engineer to sign off on it.
Sounds like they have quite the setup there. At least it’s a simple drive in/drive out solution 👍
I have exactly the same kid seats in my 200 🤣
Haha, I'll be glad when they are old enough to not have to use them. They drive me nuts!
how come every other country in the world gets them with the factory GVM at 3800 and we get them at 3350 ?
Good question. Too much red tape here in Australia.
The USA has same GVM of 3350kg / 7385lbs
Hi mate, thinking of upgrading from my 2011 fortuner to a LC200 sahara diesel... My worry is the sahara isn't available in a manual transmission.... (fortuner is manual) ... Is it possible to convert a 2015 LC200 sahara to a 5 speed manual...
Hey mate,
Personally I haven't heard or had any experience with converting these to manuals.
Saying that, I know that many LC70 series owners convert their manual transmissions to an auto from the LC200. If this is possible, I'm sure there would be a kit to do the reverse.
In all honesty though, the auto transmission on these vehicles are awesome and work very well, any reason in particular you are set on a manual?
Cheers, Nathan.
It would be safe to say every car you pass with a van would be over.
Definitely those without a GVM upgrade, for sure!
@@XploringOz unless it is a larger 4x4 Landrover, much better GVM/GCM figures than these!
What are the splits on your weigh bridge ticket. 1 = front at 1.8t, 2 = rear at 1.5t?
Yes thats correct. Keep in mind that the vehicle is completely empty. I would never ordinarily drive around like this, the splits are much closer when basic gear is loaded.
@@XploringOz Cheers for the reply. With your GVM upgrade did the axle weights of 1630kgs (F) and 1950kgs (R) change?
I’m finding it hard to find a vehicle fitted with a bull bar, winch and second battery that isn’t over it’s front axle weight. At least in your case you can load up the rear and effectively take weight off the front.
Sure, it is hard to find the right combination. So no, my vehicle isn’t subject to a higher front axle rating, however ARB have now made this part of their kit for this suspension package, so I’m happy that it’s physically capable.
How do you find your Garmin GPS? Have you had any issues? Mine got a frozen screen.
Hey mate, so I run two Garmin GPS'. But I'm assuming you are talking about the Overlander? I've found it great so far and haven't had any issues yet.
I'm not the most technically minded guy, hence why I haven't done a review on it just yet...
Have you managed to fix your issue, or find any support from Garmin yet?
Voted & Sub'd.
Thanks mate, appreciate the support.
Does kerb weight is including full tank fuel ? How about bulletproof lc200 kerb and gvm ? any info sir ? 😃 Love lc200
Hey mate, kerb weight does not include a full tank. It only includes a few litres of fuel to get the engine started and running. My total weight included a full tank 👍
Sorry mate, don’t have any information on weights of armoured vehicles unfortunately.
Thanks for watching, Nathan. 👍
@@XploringOz the Australian Design Rule Definitions and Vehicle Categories stipulates that the Kerb Weight or Unladen Mass is the mass of the vehicle in running order unoccupied and unladen with all fluid reservoirs filled to nominal capacity including fuel, and with all standard equipment. Given that, it is even more concerning your 200 is coming in that heavy given kerb weight should have already included the fuel.
@@alib2801 Sure is concerning and a good example of why these GVM upgrades is a necessity for most drivers.
@@XploringOz hey mate pretty sure Kerb weight includes full fluids and full tank of fuel. Tare weight includes all the fluids but only with little bit of fuel.
@@XploringOz hey mate I am a bit confused..let say the kerb weight is 2740 and also lets add the 138 litres fuel which would now make it 2878kgs and if your vehicles weighs 3300 when empty then you plus the accessories weighs 422 kgs which is quite a lot.
Has your roof rack failed on you yet ?
Still going strong at the moment.
Easy process he says, so why do I remember my ears bleeding 🤪
Haha, definitely issues with my choice of installers, nothing to do with the GVM process...
LOVE MY ISUZU 300 NPS75 CREW CAB 4X4 TOUR SET TOW A CARAVAN AS COME IN 8500KG LOAD ONLY UP DATE DRIVER LICENCE LIGHT TRUCK DUE OVER MAX TOW RATE ON HIGHWAY IN AUSTRALIA AS TRUCK SIT 5000KG MAX AND CARAVAN AT 3500KG MAX
Nice, I reckon one day I'd like to get some sort of 4x4 truck. Do you travel full time? If not, how do you find it when not using it on trips? How's the fuel consumption?
@@XploringOz 8500KG WEIGHT GET 1200KM ON 280LITE DIESEL FUEL OUT TRAILER 1500KM ON 280LITE OF DIESEL
Nice, thats very good economy! Hopefully I'll see you out there one day!
Thanks, Nathan
Hey mate, I saw the video of you Toyota jumping the sand dune. I am considering to fit the ARB OME BP-51 shocks and coils to my Patrol GR-Y61. What can I expect? How will the handling on and off-road be like? Do you like the BP-51? Are there any other guys with experiences? Thanks. Eddie. Slovakia, EU
Hi Eduard, I have found this suspension system to be great. By far the best suspension I have used in a vehicle to date. If setup correctly, they ride very well, the only negative is they are quite expensive. The bypass valves really do make all types of driving, both on-road or off-road extremely comfortable. Another reason I chose this system is ARB is very popular here in Australia and would be easy to access warranty or replacement if required, however this hasn't been necessary yet.
Thanks for watching, hope this helps.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Thank you, Nathan! You helped me make my mind up. ARB is very popular also in the EU. My first locker was in 1996 on a Trooper II (called Opel Monterey here). Then I modified my first Patrol GR-Y61 in 2000 with OME 2-inch lift, ARB Deluxe bar, Warn winch, Safari snorkel, ARB compressor and other accessories. My second Patrol (2007) has the same, plus the ARB front locker and some more stuff. Now, I am re-building that car to a "like new" condition, as it only has 110 TKM on the clock and such cars are not available any longer. I will go for the ARB OME BP-51 suspension! Thanks. Will let you know how it rides my ride. Will also get some other accessories from AUSTRALIA. We are exactly at the opposite spot on the Globe, relative to you. So ARB and other fine Australian products couldn't get any further! GREAT WORK. THANKS.
@@XploringOz One more point. If you find it extremely comfortable on your car, which IMHO already WAS extremely comfortable with stock suspension, it certainly would be worth on my Nissan Patrol. Thanks. Looking forward.
@@bezmena8039 I'm glad I could help. I also had a 2009 Nissan Patrol Y61 as well with many modifications and a front locker. It was a great car, but I found the 3.0L Diesel engine and 4 speed automatic a little slow and out dated.
The 200 series Landcruisers are an awesome vehicle and I hope you get everything you want from your's with your new build. I would love to see some video's of the build and some 4WD'ing.
Thanks for watching the channel and I hope you can get some more useful information in the future.
Thanks, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Yeah, you are right. My Patrol is a stick shift and yeah, re-mapped engine management, etc. Yes, a V8 would be nicer, but then, GVM ... You know. I am also considering the Land Cruiser 76, but here it is only available with the petrol engine (4 litre V6), and some say, there might not be enough space inside. I am 193 cm and my son is over 200 cm. Do you have an opinion on that, please?
If you were buying a new 200, what year woud you chose. Yes i'm looking at buying, but a new one seems not so bush friendly
Good question, this is probably a matter of personal opinion. For me, I prefer the slightly older models, early 2015 and earlier for a couple of reasons. Firstly, I'm not a fan of DPF filters (diesel particulate filters) in the exhaust. These are only added in for emissions control and have previously caused expensive issues (especially in Toyota's 2.8L engine). Although these filters seem fairly reliable at the moment, what concerns me is the long term reliability and expense of repairing or replacing these components in the future, say 10 years.
Secondly, again to do with DPF's, purchasing an earlier model is going to allow you to fit a turbo back exhaust (full system) rather than a DPF back exhaust (part system).
Don't get me wrong, this is just my personal opinion and there is nothing wrong with the new cruisers and to be honest, I prefer the style, both interior and exterior of the new cruisers.
When I was looking at purchasing, my choice was between a brand new GXL or 2014 Sahara, as you can see, I went with the 2014.
All personal preference in the end.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Thx for the answer. I think with all new things, comes more potential problems (not just LandRovers). Descisions, descisions. Can see me going for a slightly used one, hopefully just with yummy mummy driving to the mall and back
@@chrisg1234fly Good luck with the hunt mate. I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever you choose in the end. Cheers, Nathan.
Wow
How much did it cost? Did you do all the paperwork by yourself?
The cost will vary depending on your fitter and the type/brand of suspension eg. I went with the BP-51's, however it is cheaper to go the OME Nitro Shocks. I can't remember the itemised list and how much the GVM upgrade cost, however I had to pay about $135.00 (WA) to have the vehicle inspected by an authorised inspector (independent to the fitter) prior to the paperwork being finalised.
Buying and having the kit fitted by an ARB dealer or approved stockist makes it very easy. The paperwork is supplied to you by the fitter and the inspection is streamlined. Keep in mind this is an inspection, not an engineering approval.
I got a quote through ARB and they said the approval and compliance plate for the GVM is around $750.
I think 3.1kg
It's surprising how quickly the weights add up!
I think you bought the wrong car.
I don't think so, just needs a little adjustment.
I wish I didn't watch this :/
Haha, the facts aren't much fun in this instance...
@@XploringOz the fact I was looking at a 3" lift, and I'm a week off buying it. It doesn't come with a gvm increase. The 2" lift, however, does. :( I wanted 3" lift. Now I'm torn.
@@wheeman999 Hmm, I see your problems. Definitely some points to consider...