Dale Earnhardt Jr. Reacts to Bristol and the Problems with the Races | The Dale Jr. Download

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  • The Dale Jr. Download dives into the Bristol race weekend and the problems that the track and NASCAR faced.
    Dale and co-host Mike Davis share their thoughts on the races.
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  • @daveinthe6262
    @daveinthe6262 2 роки тому +53

    Dale was spot on about the change of the banking at Bristol years ago. Bristol went from the ticket I couldn't get to the ticket I didn't want.

    • @calebh92
      @calebh92 2 роки тому +5

      Bristol is still the best track in Cup. The latter half of the Gen 6 era was the greatest racing in NASCAR over the past 20 years

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 2 роки тому

      They are trying to be too much like other racing assoc. Than being what the sport should be.

    • @bobbertee5945
      @bobbertee5945 2 роки тому +7

      Your not kidding, i dont get why they thought changing the track like that would help racing, the late 90s early 2000's were awesome at that track....

    • @CharlotteCaniac
      @CharlotteCaniac 2 роки тому

      Yep. I’ve been to the Bristol race for 24 years in a row. Bring back the old Bristol.

    • @BkBk-gy6vr
      @BkBk-gy6vr 2 роки тому +2

      @@calebh92 Bristol was the best before the reconfiguration. Now its been boring for years 10th best now

  • @ChampaBayBeast
    @ChampaBayBeast 2 роки тому +60

    Man I wish we could get the whole show here on UA-cam.

  • @johnbowman7346
    @johnbowman7346 2 роки тому +20

    Nascar and Marcus Smith have been going in the right direction lately listening to Jr and I think they need to listen more. He has a great knowledge of the sport from a driver, owner, and most importantly a fans perspective. The man wants to grow this sport he's just as much a fan as anyone else. LISTEN TO HIM!

    • @averywood4573
      @averywood4573 2 роки тому +1

      Just turn napcrap over to JUNIOR he's the expert on all things to napcrap fans
      need to know . Biden is president , but he can't run a country on any level either.

    • @raymondhoffman4371
      @raymondhoffman4371 10 днів тому

      ​@averywood4573 thats like turning over Nascar over to Hendricks

  • @mols89
    @mols89 2 роки тому +12

    It's a real bummer about the old Atlanta, I freakin' loved the racing! Real tire wear, multiple grooves, comers and goers.

    • @markpell8979
      @markpell8979 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah they really f'd up ATL.

    • @slimbrady6691
      @slimbrady6691 2 роки тому

      I've liked every configuration of Atlanta, including the newest one.

  • @davew7250
    @davew7250 2 роки тому +28

    Great insights into making NASCAR better…if only they would listen.

    • @Wklambert
      @Wklambert 2 роки тому +5

      They do listen to Dale though, look at the 2023 All star race. Proof positive, Jr has massive influence on the sport.

  • @ClintGrantham
    @ClintGrantham 2 роки тому +1

    Great clip. A wonderful explanation for Jr here. This sort of content is long over due. Jr and his team are literally saving NASCAR.

    • @raymondhoffman4371
      @raymondhoffman4371 10 днів тому

      Wow his xfinity team is saving Nascar nothing can save Nascar

  • @samiam9008
    @samiam9008 2 роки тому +4

    Ability to PASS.. # 1 request of fans. When I watched the races from the 80's, I see NASCAR stock car racing, today I see corporate America on the track.

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions 2 роки тому

      I don't know what you are expecting?
      The fastest and best set up cars will naturally qualify better and stay near the front, and the few that don't will naturally rush to the front of the grid in the first stage of the race and then stay there because crew chiefs aren't stupid and aren't going to adjust the cars to be worse. If that seems like a problem, shorten the races by 40 percent or more so guys have less time to let their better cars default pass slower ones.

  • @doninwv
    @doninwv 2 роки тому +14

    Yes, the crowd was better at Bristol last weekend. Still, it was not nearly sold out, and I KNOW that a LOT of tickets were given away and also sold corporately at big discounts. The racing was merely OK. There was a subdued feeling in the air.....on the track, in the stands. It used to be completely Electric. I think there are multiple issues, and Dale has described a few of them.

    • @averywood4573
      @averywood4573 2 роки тому

      Just turn Napcrap over to junior and the world will be a wonderful. He's the man napcrap needs ...lol

    • @nickphilkill8287
      @nickphilkill8287 Рік тому

      Check out the world of outlaws. Eldora and knoxville have the feeling of electricity you describe.

    • @doninwv
      @doninwv Рік тому

      @@nickphilkill8287 Oh I agree. I've been to Knoxville a few times as well as winged sprint races in the mid east, and Charlotte. Eldora has been on my list but haven't made it there yet. Hard to beat WoO sprint shows.

  • @NigelMK
    @NigelMK 2 роки тому +38

    I honestly think the only variable that you can control here on these short tracks is the engine. If you give them a bit more HP, they're going to push the envelope more. The lap times are still slower than the Gen6 car. If you give them a 100 more HP in the engines, you'll see qualifying times a second faster and that will most definitely lead to more tire wear and fall off. More HP will allow a driver to hug the wall at Bristol in order to not shave off as much speed from the straights.

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 2 роки тому +3

      Bingo. Keep the tires durable and give the cars more HP and less aero downforce on short tracks. Acceleration will be quicker (more passing), handling will be worse (higher driver skill required to pass/win), and the agility to drive the car harder will naturally wear the tires more.

    • @2Truth4Liberty
      @2Truth4Liberty 2 роки тому +1

      "I honestly think the only variable that you can control here on these short tracks is the engine."
      Not so. Requiring a tread pattern (grooving of tires) can be controlled.
      And different patterns could be specified for different tracks.

    • @mattb.2740
      @mattb.2740 2 роки тому +1

      Issue is, the new car is supposed to be helping teams by cutting costs. It will be a lot more cost for teams and manufacturers to have to R&D another specialty engine package for a handful of races every year.

    • @racebowtie1
      @racebowtie1 2 роки тому +3

      @@mattb.2740 all the r&d has been done. The motor is the same as last year. They had a 750 package last year. I also believe that ever current engine was also the same ones used in the 900 plus HP days so all them notes are there already. They are currently running two engine packages anyway so adding a third is not that much more work especially when the tapered spacer is the biggest change from one package to another.

    • @tp3922
      @tp3922 2 роки тому +1

      On the surface, you might think that you have made a valid point. But, don't you think that as a driver's point of view - that Jr has already taken that into consideration ... This is my question, if Nascar won't allow any modifications to any part towards the Gen6 cars anywhere. How can one modify the motor to give it more horsepower?

  • @happynutz3387
    @happynutz3387 2 роки тому +7

    I LOVED the old Atlanta!! It was by far the best 1.5 mile track on the circuit. I have no desire to ever go to this new configuration. I must be in minority, but I loved going and watching those races on the old worn out surface. There was lots of coming and going with tire fall off. Sure you had a guy like Harvick that could lap the field if it stayed green, but even though he was so dominant, most of those races usually still had a different winner because something would happen over the 500 miles that changed the strategy. It was always the best racing. TV never captured the fun of watching a race on that surface. You could always see so much more going on through the field that the cameras wouldn't show on TV. And watching them sideways out of the turns every lap. And sideways enough that you could easily see how sideways they were from the stands. That stuff showed who was the best drivers in the field. NASCAR has less and less of that type of racing on the schedule now. And I lose more and more interest as they do. I want 1,000 hp, slip sliding around, throttle control, and the best drivers and teams figuring it out each week.

  • @lce92493
    @lce92493 2 роки тому +45

    I don’t believe there is a disconnect between a true fan who appreciates good racing and what kind of a race a driver likes. Casual fans need manufactured excitement and cautions. As a true race fan, I appreciate watching a driver drive a car to its limits.

    • @waltersobchak8080
      @waltersobchak8080 2 роки тому +1

      Casual fans are the vast majority, sadly

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому

      I love NASCAR for the entertainment I don't get into F1, Indy car or anything else

    • @aaronspringborn34
      @aaronspringborn34 2 роки тому +1

      This is a great discussion. I just struggle with a few things. If drivers are complaining of how their car is driving then why are they complaining especially if they want fall off? You can’t have it both ways. Yes it is the most difficult series to drive. on one hand your car can’t turn but yet you want to slip and slide around. If you’re a driver take your pick. On the other hand with those fans I still kind of do understand but you don’t understand the debate between racing versus entertainment is it racing supposed to be entertainment? Like I said I get this discussion but yet I don’t get it

    • @bucky13
      @bucky13 2 роки тому +2

      I thought the Xfinity race was 5x better than the cup race. There was good racing all night with less trouble passing and the cars didn't self-destruct.

    • @davidboston4065
      @davidboston4065 2 роки тому +3

      “Casual Fans” are just as important to the sport as are “true fans”. To think that only the fans that appreciate good racing and pushing a car to the limit matters is just the attitude the sport does not need. Single file races will kill the sport but I guess you and other “true fan” will appreciate that.

  • @timothymooney4466
    @timothymooney4466 2 роки тому +57

    I've been a Nascar fan for over 50yrs. It seems to me that as the importance of TV revenue has become predominant, and the rules changing with the intent to increase attraction has backfired. The sport has lost its bona fides because it feels manipulated and no longer genuine. In other words, it's making some feel there's a better product offered at the local track. I'm sure it's a complex matter but so was Frankenstein's monster.

    • @garyrolen8764
      @garyrolen8764 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed 👍. ARCA and TransAm is more fun to watch these days. These gen6 cup cars are too much race car and not enough stock car. I'd like to see a rollback to some hybrid of the gen2, gen4 with modern tech.

    • @DH-xm3hc
      @DH-xm3hc 2 роки тому

      I totally agree 👍 I remember the Rockingham Race Track in NC and still have my seat cushion. I really quit watching when Dale died. Those were the days of "real NASCAR". I watch Jr.'s podcast and agree with him. I really quit watching when Jr. quit racing. To me watching the races now, look like video games. I haven't ever played video games. ✌❤🌼

    • @hotdogs5265
      @hotdogs5265 2 роки тому

      100%

    • @ticktock5019
      @ticktock5019 2 роки тому

      🎯

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 2 роки тому +6

      It also doesn't help they fell for the cultural war crap and dumped on their core fanbase. Rural southerners are what made the sport.

  • @bevnracin
    @bevnracin 2 роки тому +8

    I wish that you had the power when the new tire was designed to tell Nascar exactly what you saw and just told us about. A different tire might have made this car better.
    As far as the Bristol race : there was way too much carnage due to parts failures which caused some of the wrecks. There's always been wrecks there but it used to be because of drivers beating on each other to pass . I don't think this race should have been the cut off for the first round , it should be about the drivers having the most talent. Not whoever is left standing after all the wrecks. Just my opinion as a fan . I LOVE your insight Dale Jr !

  • @rattmausch
    @rattmausch 2 роки тому +2

    Definitely agree with Dale.. The cars are too fast for Martinsville and Bristol.. Sounds like an oxymoron in regards to race cars but I remember back in the late 80's and early 90's when they were trying to slow the cars down at the big tracks.. Now they gotta do it at the small tracks. If every car is fast and handles perfect with no tire fall off, there's very very little passing because the cars are just going in circles and can't catch anybody unless someone has a problem. This is why the 1.5 mile tracks were such snooze fests 15-20 years ago. You know what made the racing great back in the hey day of Nascar? Attrition. The best of the best would rise to the top. Granted, the same guys like Petty, Yarborough, and Pearson mostly, but, there were some great battles despite 3 or 4 cars on the lead lap. It was rare up until the late 80's to have more than 5-10 cars on the lead lap. Now it's common to have 25-30 cars on the lead lap.. Yeah, more guys are in it but it means nothing if no one can pass.

  • @Anthony-or9ku
    @Anthony-or9ku 2 роки тому

    Been to Bristol numerous times and watched you and your ole man !! Never forget those days 👊🏼💯💪🏼🤠

  • @tillman40
    @tillman40 2 роки тому +13

    They have always wanted to take the nascar foundation and make the series a road race series. Making the cars with giant wings, side skirts on the ground. We want stock car racing on oval tracks

  • @jeannieanderson5640
    @jeannieanderson5640 2 роки тому +3

    Glad to here this! I’ve been saying since day 1 to narrow up the tires and the racing would improve instantly! They cannot carry that speed thru corners.

    • @KSparks80
      @KSparks80 2 роки тому

      Did you hear him say "they can't go back" to the narrower tires? (Starts @ 5:00).

  • @jessejames2546
    @jessejames2546 2 роки тому +4

    I remember going to Bristol in late 80s & 90s and you couldn’t get tickets if you didn’t keep your tickets every year

  • @speedwaylabsdev
    @speedwaylabsdev 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely nailed it...

  • @clyd1206
    @clyd1206 2 роки тому +6

    I am willing to bet that these low-profile tires were chosen simply because of how the large wheel and small profile looks. I cant tell you how many moronic decisions I have seen made simply because of optics.

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому +1

      It has more to do with looking like a stock car the tire size

  • @sparkyofsocal
    @sparkyofsocal 2 роки тому +5

    I do not always agree with Jr, a lot of times actually. I do agree with his thoughts about this car package problem. It has be obvious for awhile and NASCAR and most reporters have been making excuses and sometimes ignoring the things that need to be fixed. The safety issues that Harvick and others now that are no starting to get behind Kevin is another complete different issue that needs NASCAR to at the very least acknowledge so it doesn’t appear to be ignored. God forbid if someone gets really hurt, and that’s not saying Bush is a little hurt, if someone really gets hurt NASCAR won’t be able to say “ We did not know “ or nobody forced them to race. The potential to get ugly exist.

  • @mattheisen77
    @mattheisen77 2 роки тому +3

    One thing we can also say is that, Atlanta is a Superspeedway now not only because of the config. If they had smaller tires it would probably creat something different.

  • @richardlong6097
    @richardlong6097 2 роки тому +6

    Years and years ago I tried to get season tickets at Bristol and was put on list w a 2 decade est wait. Ppl passed down tickets in wills, families went to court over the tickets, that's how sought after they were. Tickets anywhere on the front stretch Saturday were $190 retail. The cheapest tickets were $90 in the corner terraces. While the track has finally worn out some and become "racey" the racing wasn't very good. The NHRA elims Sunday were less than 100K viewers behind the primetime Bristol race and had 165K more viewers in the most important 18-49 demo.

    • @daleirish6682
      @daleirish6682 2 роки тому +2

      the commentators also made a big deal saying the stands were packed... maybe more fans were there than a few of the last races, but it was far from packed with plenty of empty seats and sections. there was a day when you needed someone to fit you in your seat with an oversized shoehorn because the seats were so packed. i am talking 10-12-15 years ago

    • @JoeJoe-uy6ck
      @JoeJoe-uy6ck 2 роки тому +2

      Interesting...my friends and I had season Bristol tix from 97 to 13... guess where I was this weekend? Maple Grove and it was as packed as I've ever seen it in 25 years.

    • @nickphilkill8287
      @nickphilkill8287 Рік тому +1

      Yeah younger fans follow different forms of motorsports more which is good. Dirt especially sprint cars is growing rapidly in the upper Midwest. Indy 500 is huge i in Indiana again. Way more people watching f1 in america. This is how it used to be before the 90s. Nascar needs to adapt or die.

    • @JoeJoe-uy6ck
      @JoeJoe-uy6ck Рік тому

      @@nickphilkill8287 dirt??? No just no

    • @nickphilkill8287
      @nickphilkill8287 Рік тому

      @@JoeJoe-uy6ck southerner triggered cuz nascar is dying 🤣 stay mad

  • @mrwest231
    @mrwest231 2 роки тому +1

    Dale Jr. is almost always spot on. He is again here. The only thing that he said that I don't totally agree with, and I've heard this elsewhere, is the passing. Racing is 950x better when the difficulty of passing is due to what the drivers themselves are doing with how to use the pedals to get through the corner, not how they manipulate the air. Driver skill, car setup, tire condition, and throttle time should make the difference.

  • @AIC5150
    @AIC5150 2 роки тому +3

    Like in relationships, the tighter you try to hold on and control it, the worse it gets. Maybe NASCAR could apply some of this to the way they try so hard to hold and and control the sport

  • @xTheRedShirtX
    @xTheRedShirtX 2 роки тому +2

    NASCAR really needs to know what needs to be a caution and what doesn't. If a car spins out, make it a caution. If a tire blows, make it a caution. If a car hits the wall but can still move on and out of the way...no caution unless fluids are on the track and pieces. This isn't rocket science.

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому

      It's always been a judgment call and it's always going to be

  • @darthtater
    @darthtater 2 роки тому +2

    Glad DaleJr is giving voice to the tire specifications. Running a wider tire has always seemed counterintuitive to what NASCAR was trying to accomplish.

    • @2Truth4Liberty
      @2Truth4Liberty 2 роки тому

      They can still accomplish it by specifying different tire groove patterns at different tracks - and provide for racing in the rain to boot :-0)

  • @KobaltGrizzly
    @KobaltGrizzly 2 роки тому +1

    Local to Bristol here. The last race I paid to see was in ‘07. COT and progressive banking. A ticket you could never get became a ticket you didn’t want. Unless it was free and didn’t have any other plans. It’s like they said “We’ve made all the money we can stand!” “Let’s go ahead and change the track.” “We don’t like making gate money anymore!”
    It’ll be interesting to see what happens when the network TV contracts end.
    I don’t think we’ll ever see over 160,000 people again at Bristol. It was awesome to be a part of that many years ago.
    They’ve taken out entire rows of bleachers, every other row. Replaced with a steel bar and cup holders. I guess to make it look…. not so empty on TV.

  • @jeffreyhartman7204
    @jeffreyhartman7204 2 роки тому +3

    I was at the race. The xfinity race saved the weekend. The cup race wasn’t good. They need to fix the tire for sure and figure out the aero tight issues

    • @Frosty2105
      @Frosty2105 2 роки тому

      Agree 100% with this. If it wasn't for the Xfinity race, I would have walked away from my first Bristol weekend with never wanting to come back.

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 2 роки тому

      Cup is boring the way IROC was boring and for the same reasons.

  • @michaelsteggii3525
    @michaelsteggii3525 2 роки тому

    My only Bristol race to date was 2017 dale jr’s last ride! Loved it!
    Had the headset and was listening to dale jr and Larson’s radio’s.
    Unfortunately I had to watch Kyle Busch win. Saturday and Sunday.
    Thank you dale jr!

  • @FallingPicturesProductions
    @FallingPicturesProductions 2 роки тому +1

    I watched the Cup race, thought it was great other than Goodyear and Ford working together to overload tires. Tire fall off isn't the end all be all for everything.
    1) Fans should respect and enjoy traffic navigation more.
    2) Crank up the power of everyone really thinks this is bad.

  • @leehendrickson3030
    @leehendrickson3030 2 роки тому +1

    JR is spot on about the tires, I actually liked the racing better when they were on bias ply tires, definitely not a safe tire but it was definitely exciting

  • @donaldcreg5110
    @donaldcreg5110 2 роки тому +1

    The very first race at Bristol was probably one of the best racing there was

  • @jasonsimpkins9069
    @jasonsimpkins9069 2 роки тому +3

    I loved long run. I went to Dover 5-7 years straight early 2000s. Yeah it was a bit boring but drivers would make moves. Drive up. And strategy. It was fun watching.

    • @garyrolen8764
      @garyrolen8764 2 роки тому

      I'd like to see a season with a mix of stage racing and classic first to the checkered. Some tracks are better for stage racing, others, it's just unnecessary.

    • @jasonsimpkins9069
      @jasonsimpkins9069 2 роки тому +1

      @@garyrolen8764 I'm not a fan of the stages. I don't like it. Competition cautions, also not a fan in most cases. Don't like nascar at all anymore really. When they first started the playoffs turned me off. Went downhill from there

    • @garyrolen8764
      @garyrolen8764 2 роки тому

      @@jasonsimpkins9069 you sound exactly like all my old friends. I hear you too. They definitely went the wrong direction. At this point they need to do something to right the ship.
      There are a couple tracks were traditional cautions are few or rare. Those races can be very boring if someone gets several laps ahead. For those tracks, I can see where stages helps the competitiveness of the race and therefore the enjoyment. Others, were cautions are more common, you don't need stages.

    • @jasonsimpkins9069
      @jasonsimpkins9069 2 роки тому +1

      @@garyrolen8764 Not sure if that's a good or bad things (friends) Lol.. But i like when teams use talent and brains over nascar. Then every spot matter. Doesn't seem the same now. Something else that pulled me away. Gordon retiring, he was my guy. Hendricks really. Then everyone else started leaving. Prior to him as well, Great drivers leaving. They can't drive forever. Just too much changing that I wasn't a fan of. I'll still go in person but as for tv or following, I'm out. Lol..
      Hopefully your friends are as cool as I? 🤣🤣

  • @_red_scorpion_
    @_red_scorpion_ 2 роки тому +1

    I commented on this when it was announced, I thought the wider tire was a mistake... at least with how the cars are right now. glad to see Jr agrees

    • @2Truth4Liberty
      @2Truth4Liberty 2 роки тому

      grooving the tires is an option - and could even allow racing in the rain

  • @scotthaines1860
    @scotthaines1860 2 роки тому +2

    NASCAR needs to put someone in control who has driven a race care before and knows what the drivers and fans want. If NASCAR does the following below, it will INSTANTLY improve the racing and put it back in Drivers hands. To Dale's points in this video, NASCAR needs someone who knows what the Drivers want.
    1.) 850 or more HP
    2.) Goodyear needs a tire that has fall off for the love of god. If they cant, bring in Hoosier.
    3.) Remove the diffuser on short tracks
    4.) Remove cautions after stages (this will bring strategy back)
    5.) Less road courses and more short tracks/mid level

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому

      Ben Kennedy is going to be CEO and chairman sooner than later and unless something happens to his grate Uncle Jim I don't expect change before 2025 when new TV deal happens. He is 77 right and I certainly don't see him as CEO for another 10 years even if health allows

  • @croteau911
    @croteau911 2 роки тому +3

    I want to know what he thinks will happen at north wilkes

  • @MrBARishel
    @MrBARishel 2 роки тому +2

    Would a solution be to have a different wheel / tire setup based on track type? SS vs Road Course vs 1.5 vs short track ???

    • @2Truth4Liberty
      @2Truth4Liberty 2 роки тому

      A tire groove pattern to try to match each track could be a solution

  • @Zach6969
    @Zach6969 2 роки тому +2

    Could they introduce multiple tire compounds that teams can choose? Soft, mediums and hards. Maybe each team only get one set of softs a race? Changes made per each track

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому

      You're asking a lot out of a tire manufacturer to make happen for amount of sets of tires needed for up to 40 teams

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 2 роки тому

      @@johnhaas2523 Pirelli's been doing it for a decade in F1, and Goodyear is a MUCH bigger operation than Pirelli.

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому

      @@teebob21 the thing though is the amount of sets of tires just for one weekend as nascar race you have how many sets of tires and not every race is the same compound or even right side tires are the same as the left side

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions 2 роки тому

      Tried that at the All Star race early on in the Gen6 days, don't recall the year. Tire variations meant nothing because aero was king with those Gen6 shitboxes.

  • @jeffreyrainey1015
    @jeffreyrainey1015 2 роки тому

    As a fan listening at home, The thing with the 2022 night race at Bristol was that there was a lot of torn up equipment, not due to drivers beatenin' and bangin' each other to pass, but due to mechanical and technical failures on the cars themselves. So yes there was a lot happening and shuffling of the leader board, but due to happenstance rather than driver input.

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 2 роки тому

      Yeah it was like racing with Dorman parts.

  • @aszilagyi100
    @aszilagyi100 2 роки тому

    I hear what you’re saying DJ!
    But it’s always a hard pill to swallow, when you’re trying to create a slower situation to increase the drama!
    And yes I truly understand the idea that humans behind the scenes helped create the show.
    It’s an engineering study, where you’re developing a team to work its way through the difficult process of developing a winning team.
    And you’re pointing to a tire that’s too good, and it makes it too easy to go fast for too many teams!
    But hell, it’s really hard to put the genie in the bottle after you’ve let it out!

    • @aszilagyi100
      @aszilagyi100 2 роки тому

      Just trying to play devils advocate.
      But the idea of adding technology to an old-school endeavor, while showcasing the best team. And their ability to overcome adversity. It’s a pretty thin line to walk upon

  • @FlyEaglesFly19111
    @FlyEaglesFly19111 2 роки тому +1

    I have one correction that needs to be addressed. Mike its not a crew chief problem for camber, castor, toe and air pressure. That is an engineer issue. That is solely on those with the car program and what believed data is preemptively telling these teams to run. This car and set up is this year of itself. Next year yes.. car chiefs may take a look at the track data and forthright make changes. Stay safe and be well.

  • @camdaddy10
    @camdaddy10 2 роки тому +4

    Bristol hasn't been good since the reconfiguration of the track

  • @ricksorber9562
    @ricksorber9562 2 роки тому +2

    I think part of Bristol's attendance problem is it's not the only night race anymore. Fans don't have to wait for that one weekend and drive hundreds of miles to Bristol. Now they can go to Richmond or Martinsville instead if it's closer or fits their schedule better.

    • @anthonysmith4222
      @anthonysmith4222 2 роки тому +3

      Or Nashville

    • @bikedoodme
      @bikedoodme 2 роки тому +4

      So being a turd of a race had nothing to do with it?

    • @jeffreyphipps5099
      @jeffreyphipps5099 2 роки тому

      …and there’s nothing special about the track since the lowered the banking-angle.

    • @ricksorber9562
      @ricksorber9562 2 роки тому

      @@bikedoodme I said part of the problem. There might have been other parts.

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 2 роки тому

      4K TVs are also more common and make the cost of the trek less appealing. For any race really not just Bristol. Not just the 4K since replays (not sure about streaming) are only 720p but the size of the TVs themselves are huge.
      If only NASCAR would make the replays 4K.

  • @bikedoodme
    @bikedoodme 2 роки тому +4

    You ask why they would make a tire like what they have now? Answer: engineers. Just because you have an engineering degree doesn’t mean you are smart.

  • @chadmartin6729
    @chadmartin6729 2 роки тому

    I raced Bristol in a late model when it was 36 degrees banking leave the tracks alone. Dale would say this concord motorsports park taught me a lot and that was one of the hardest tracks to get around it will wear you out. I won there but it was tough. I wish track was still around

  • @marclewis1199
    @marclewis1199 2 роки тому

    3:30 pm start time here in the Midwest is freaking stupid. 12:30 was great for me back in the day.

  • @ScottXC91
    @ScottXC91 2 роки тому +1

    2011 Atlanta finish is still one of the most entertaining finishing is modern NASCAR history. There was nothing wrong with old Atlanta. It was just about finding the correct car/tire combination to produce that sort of racing. Of course a repave changes all that.

  • @VEERRNN
    @VEERRNN 2 роки тому +2

    Why wasn't there more testing done Bristol on different tires? I bet rack problems would've shown up by doing so.

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому +1

      When was their time to do a tire test or a next gen test on the concrete surface

  • @LeonardoBruno54
    @LeonardoBruno54 2 роки тому

    Well, we know what we need.
    MO POWA BABEH!

  • @matthewhicks1725
    @matthewhicks1725 2 роки тому +1

    I think the warmer Temperatures. Will be a big factor at Martinsville the 2nd time around

  • @markpell8979
    @markpell8979 2 роки тому

    Totally agree higher speed is the basis of the problem. Slowing the cars down, on any type of track, would not hurt the racing for anybody. If speed is available to the drivers they're gonna use it to win, period. We can't expect them to back off to be safer.

  • @gravedig1990
    @gravedig1990 2 роки тому +1

    Honest question, would more power help the short tracks?

  • @itsNuTz
    @itsNuTz 2 роки тому

    Loved it and I'll definitely be back!

  • @stevensommers7798
    @stevensommers7798 2 роки тому +3

    Definitely need to get a tire with fall off. Need to be careful of listening to the driver's too much. Nascar did that before with the low downforce package and the racing wasn't always good.

  • @NASNICK01
    @NASNICK01 2 роки тому

    I bought season tickets for Bristol when they opened the Allison Terrance. 6 tickets for spring and fall xfinity and Cup . I never went to the Spring race,never had a problem selling until two weeks before the race I hear we don't want the tickets. I never went again.

  • @JacobNNorton1982
    @JacobNNorton1982 2 роки тому +1

    I was there this weekend. Great weather! Boring Saturday night race. Follow the leader style again. Tire problems again…..

  • @antoniovgmx
    @antoniovgmx 2 роки тому

    I'm no engineer but if I'm not mistaken with upgrades to the suspension and the decreased tire wall size the bunch of the work will fall on the suspension rather than the tires. You probably can run the tires until they blow and laps will be quite similar to new tires because most of the grip comes from the suspension instead of the tires themselves, the car is too good and could run great laps with bricks for tires

  • @gatorunleashed275
    @gatorunleashed275 2 роки тому +3

    It sure was a bad race the other night. Reminded me of the qualifying they tried a few years ago with all the cars in the track. Racing should be filled with passes, not just lined up like a train.

  • @brianvanschyndel736
    @brianvanschyndel736 2 роки тому +4

    these new cars suck on short tracks

  • @Wklambert
    @Wklambert 2 роки тому +4

    I still think heat from the brakes had more to do with tire failure than anything. Almost every single occurrence, the tire's inside wall was gone. The bead was still there, but the sidewall was gone, and the tread peeled out, towards the outside of the wheel. I have a hard time looking past the heat being an issue, considering all the fires we've seen this year. Heat degrades the tire. Friction degrades the tire. There can't be enough air getting to the calipers and rotors.

  • @bubbasteele2991
    @bubbasteele2991 2 роки тому +1

    Easy Fix. Take the rear Spoiler off & let the run Full power. At Bristol& Martinsvill

  • @richardgohlke6192
    @richardgohlke6192 2 роки тому +1

    hi dirty mo, put grooves in the tires less contact patch.

  • @Wklambert
    @Wklambert 2 роки тому +1

    Is there constant tire pressure monitoring?

    • @jimmac1953
      @jimmac1953 2 роки тому

      If not they should. Tech exist on most if not all newer street cars and of course F1. Data could be supplied real-time to Goodyear and Nascar.

  • @nmalueg1990
    @nmalueg1990 2 роки тому +1

    What about nascar adopting what Indy and F1 do where they have different tire compounds and you have to use each compound at least one time during the race?

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому

      That's a f****** lot to ask from Goodyear or any tire manufacturer to make enough of them tires for any race

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions 2 роки тому

      They tried that at the All Star race early in the Gen6 days. Changed nothing because aero was king with those cars.

    • @nmalueg1990
      @nmalueg1990 2 роки тому

      @@johnhaas2523 F1 has 5 different tire compounds, 7 if you count the inters and full wet tires. They bring 3 of those compounds to each race and each team gets 2 sets of hards, 4 sets of mediums and 8 sets of softs. Pirelli has had no problems with it and they’ve been doing it for many many years now

  • @bandingo652
    @bandingo652 2 роки тому +5

    NASCAR has been doing a good job trying to pull out of their nose dive but unfortunately, It's a steady & sure decline. The sport is on borrowed time. It's not opinion, It's facts.

  • @markteich1766
    @markteich1766 2 роки тому

    So thoughtful!

  • @JKUOff-Road
    @JKUOff-Road 2 роки тому +2

    Tire was not durable in the cup race. Very disappointed with tire issues.

  • @samcullen123
    @samcullen123 2 роки тому +3

    Tires is not as big of problem for me. I get it goodyear is being conservative to make it last till the end especially this year bc its the first time these cars are on these tracks. My biggest issues are the cars and the configuration of some of these tracks. Bristol needs to get rid of the progressive bankings run the bottom and it will cause the bump and run back. But then tracks like Texas became a one lane track where it needs to be multiple lanes. And the cars need more horsepower and need to eliminate the shifting at the short tracks

    • @garyrolen8764
      @garyrolen8764 2 роки тому

      With Texas coming up this weekend, we know what we're gonna see. Single file, no passing, wreaks on restart or very near a restart, and a lot of disappointment. I think the problem with Texas is the front stretch. Seems to me that is what narrows the track....?

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions 2 роки тому

      Bump and Run Bristol was never good. I encourage you to go back and watch the 1999 Goody's 500 in full start to finish. For some of the best drivers in the US, it looked like amateur hour.

  • @ryanwinkelman1781
    @ryanwinkelman1781 2 роки тому +1

    Changing the wheel size to allow these massive tires was totally idiotic. The only way they can possibly negate any of that excess grip is less rear down force and more power.

  • @2Truth4Liberty
    @2Truth4Liberty 2 роки тому

    WIDER, BIGGER TIRE you can't go back???
    Maybe not. But you can require tread pattern that reduces the contact patch.
    Perhaps only require fully grooved tires at Bristol and Martinsville but
    could experiment with partial grooving at other tracks too.
    Maybe even provided for RAIN TIRES so there are no red flags based on rain, just opportunity to change tires.
    Would sell a lot of RAIN-X :-0)

  • @moparedtn
    @moparedtn 2 роки тому +6

    If Goodyear actually managed to show up with a decent, safe tire - *leave them be* .
    99% of the time the complaints about tires have been how "unsafe" they are, so this
    accomplishment of theirs should be *encouraged* , not condemned.
    Methinks Jr is just trying to manufacture drama where there isn't any - for "content", of course.
    Gotta have something to talk about, right?

  • @ramillerusa
    @ramillerusa 2 роки тому +7

    The problem is with every improvement comes a detraction.

  • @jonathanrjaneiro
    @jonathanrjaneiro 2 роки тому

    If they can’t figure out a compound call the Goodyear boys up and tell them to cut grooves in the slicks like mid 2000s F1 to reduce center corner speeds. Less contact patch without changing the envelope.

  • @Maverick33
    @Maverick33 2 роки тому

    Dale was the only one who mentioned the 2008 Brickyard 400

  • @BigAl831
    @BigAl831 2 роки тому

    We started a new drinking game that race, every time Junior said Right front drink lol we were waisted on lap 200 🏆🏁

  • @DewkChronic
    @DewkChronic 2 роки тому

    If they are gonna do the dirt Bristol. we need 3 races at this track. 2 pavement. Every single person loves this place.

  • @phillipthompson4896
    @phillipthompson4896 Рік тому

    Hey Dale I'm looking for the molding trim molding for the doors for my 2000 Monte Carlo SS. I live right down from your dealership in Tallahassee Florida. And I'm restoring this car. Do you have them at your dealership?

  • @Alex_Mac_
    @Alex_Mac_ 2 роки тому

    On the tire, Goodyear can be as scared as they want of creating a Brickyard situation. But the bottom line is designing a tire with competitive fall off is completely possible, as Firestone has proved for years in IndyCar, without ever having tire blowout issues.

  • @cbrunnem6102
    @cbrunnem6102 2 роки тому

    tire size doesn't affect the contact patch much at all. it changes the size of the patch. a tire 100" in diameter would have the same contact patch area as long as the force on the tire and tore pressure are both the same in both cases. pressure and force on the tire changes the contact area for the most part.

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 2 роки тому

      A wider tire has a bigger contact patch than a narrrower one.

    • @cbrunnem6102
      @cbrunnem6102 2 роки тому

      @@dchawk81 no it doesn't. the contact patch is almost entirely decided by the weight on tire divided by the tire pressure. this is why a flat tire has a huge contact patch. this is also why race teams run higher pressures when it's cold. a smaller contact patch combined with higher pressures will build tire temp quicker.

  • @BrandonSLedford
    @BrandonSLedford 2 роки тому

    Im 100% with ya Jr

  • @davethestalker
    @davethestalker 2 роки тому +3

    Speed is good.

  • @jonkeau5155
    @jonkeau5155 2 роки тому

    Hey dale, did you watch Cleetus Mcfarland’s Bristol 1000 race with Crown Vic’s racing the full oval and the burnout contest?

  • @randaljesuschristisking5359
    @randaljesuschristisking5359 2 роки тому

    If the cup race didn't have all the flat tires the race would have been bad. There was no passing the cars are to fast in the corners. Why NASCAR made this style race car and the car's are not safe there is no crumple zone to take the energy out of a wreck. It scares me somebody's going to get killed or hurt bad again! Dale Jr you are so right Martinsville is going to be a bad show again. I have been a fan since 1989 but I'm starting to wonder about this new car you were right on about your commentary on it. Dale Jr I just would like to say I was one of you and your Dad's biggest fans if one of you had a problems in a race and fell out I didn't really care who won after but I learned to love a types of racing. You and your Dad had a lot to do with that. It took me 10 years to get over his death where if I thought of him it made me sad but I finally got where I could think happy thoughts when I think of your Dad. He was a great man and a great race car driver! I am sure that you miss him greatly.

  • @jawmedia7575
    @jawmedia7575 2 роки тому +1

    Remove restriction on these engines!

  • @JoeSchmo747-t2c
    @JoeSchmo747-t2c 2 роки тому

    I think there really isn't any excuses for Goodyear at this point. In Indycar, Firestone has done a great job at creating tires that have wear to them but don't have issues that adversely affect the race. Just look at the iowa races for example. There was so much wear that guys were blowing by others that were on old tires and those that were good at saving tires moved up later in the run.

  • @alvarsdzenis4739
    @alvarsdzenis4739 2 роки тому

    I agree, the tires are too hard if your lap speed is the same at lap 80 as it is on lap 10.

  • @EstebanRapido
    @EstebanRapido 2 роки тому +2

    5:40 I was all for the new car before the season started. Then I found out that the tires don't have inner liners. It is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
    It has clearly made the racing worse. Throwing a yellow just because a car isn't capable of getting back to the pits, is not good for the "show." It's sad that so many cars are left stranded on track because of two flat tires. Relative to the old tires, these are dangerous and stupid.

  • @alensley1368
    @alensley1368 2 роки тому

    I went to the race in Martinsville in the spring. I have been debating whether to back this fall. I've been going to Martinsville since the 80's and that had to be the worst race I've seen. Only good thing about it they shortened it to 400 laps because I was cold as crap and don't think I would have stayed for the last 100.

  • @daleirish6682
    @daleirish6682 2 роки тому

    I think the biggest issue of the Bristol race was Nascar NOT throwing the caution when Keselowski blew a tire while leading, but did throw the caution when Christopher Bell was leading. seems odd and planned

  • @dontworry1568
    @dontworry1568 2 роки тому +3

    take 75% of the downforce away.... thatll get them sliding around and fighting the car.

    • @johnhaas2523
      @johnhaas2523 2 роки тому +1

      The car doesn't have the down force it used to at all

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions 2 роки тому

      Please for the love of dael open a highschool physics book and understand how aerodynamics work.
      If you want 'no downforce' go watch pre-WWII racing where no drag was the name of the game.

  • @zerodos_02
    @zerodos_02 2 роки тому

    Horsepower and downforce are the issue. I LOVED old Atlanta and Bristol 2.0. Once they went to the tapered spacer, everyone went to the top at Bristol and it messed that race up. The tire can work, I wonder how it'd look with 900 to 1000 HP or is NASCAR just that adamant to not go there?

  • @garyrolen8764
    @garyrolen8764 2 роки тому +3

    Dale, I remember watching you struggle with a loose car and being forced to the high line. You had just enough success there that you began running that high line and keeping your momentum for the straights.
    I thought it was brilliant. Unfortunately, everyone else started running the high line too. It created horrible opportunities for passing and exposed a flaw in the racing. Too much banking and low horse power.
    If we're going to see 40* of banking up top, then the cars need a significant boost to horse power. If we're going to see lower horse power, then the progressive banking needs to be far less extreme.
    Right now my major complaint is with cautions. There's too many. But!, we could bring some competition back by (like you said) increasing the wear of the tire. Could we not also reduce fuel capacity?

  • @LemasterDave
    @LemasterDave 2 роки тому +1

    The tires are too wide.

  • @Midwestmo
    @Midwestmo 2 роки тому

    This is the same stuff June bug said before the season started when they tested on short tracks.

  • @markpell8979
    @markpell8979 2 роки тому

    Jr, they DID show up with a tire that fails sometimes unexpectedly (talking RF here, where everyone knows the RF loads heavily at Bristol).

  • @mikelliteras397
    @mikelliteras397 2 роки тому +1

    Other cars can pass, just the Fords are having an issue. Maybe they should’ve left the downforce alone. The big wheels look cool, tires just need to fall off more.

  • @DewkChronic
    @DewkChronic 2 роки тому

    Hey everyone our Iracing brother won his first Truck race. Go Ty Majeski

  • @howebones
    @howebones Рік тому

    Bring Hoosier back for the short tracks. Not all. Just specific short tracks. Nothing special just a standard tire the NG Cars can run. Get that surface area down, the wear will be up, work out a deal with both companies so it isn’t some massive conflict until GY can figure it out? Or maybe even run it that way for the foreseeable future?

  • @jamieday6602
    @jamieday6602 2 роки тому

    Alot of problems started when they went to putting PJ1 on the tracks to start with! But tires don't wear out except for plowing s whole bunch of them are bristol, but it wasn't just right fronts!