Doctor Who: Wild Blue Yonder - Russell T Davis Just Can't Get Over Himself!!
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2023
- The second of the three David Tennant is certainly a lot better than the first episode. But Russell T Davis can't get over himself and HAS to insert his ideological politics into every aspect. Pulling you out of show when you want to immerse yourself in it.
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I want to see the episode where the Doctor goes to Africa and the chief of the local tribe is an Asian guy.
You are obviously a bigot that doesn't understand diversity. Diversity isn't about willy nilly race-swapping people. It is about willy nilly race-swapping white people.
The most diverse photoshoot of the decade consisted of 10 black women and nobody else.
Diversity means less white people and more black people. Asians don't count for diversity points because asians are white-adjecent.
So it would be blasphemy to the Gods of Woke to ever race swap a black character, even if it is for another person of color. Wokeness is racism and sexism with corporate speak, that is why it confuses so many. But it is the same people who will say shit like "Due to our company policy we have decided to give you the freedom to seek better employment." When they mean "We're going broke, so you're fired." 😂
Or a white Martin Luther King
Or Hitler as a black woman.
that's a sly and nasty post.
@@sibionic Explain.
donna: "shame you're not a woman anymore."
Isn't that transphobia? What if the Doctor told rose "shame you're not a man any more."
Exactly … it only works one way with these types. “Rules for thee but not for me”
How does she know he’s not a woman? What is a woman?
@@steelmongoose4956 lol 😆 good one! How dare she assume his gender. He should say that back to her. But they will never write that, it would only serve to show how much nonsense it all is.
@@brooklyngal6334 Maybe the sonic screwdriver can do DNA tests?
@@silverhammer7779The science is transphobic. Don't trust the science
I actually feel sorry for the Tardis, no wonder it ran away.
At this point it's more like a closet than a Tardis!😂😂😂
@@andrewmclachlan4242 Lol😂😂😂
@@andrewmclachlan4242 ten cap beat me to it.. so funny.. i am a Brit, was born 1980 but, even though i had seen DR Who growing up, it was not until David Tennant i really got into it. seeing the tripe they said to him in that 1st episode of him coming back. it destroyed everything. we had the Sarah Jane adventures, even though they were on CBBC, for kids, it was a female lead, with a special son and he had, a Black male friend and a Asian female friend. not once did anyone ever say it was wrong, they hated a woman in the lead roll, it was just good, yes a little childish but still good stories, even had Davis DR in some shows. what is going on now is just wrong.. they shit on the past and make White people out to be crap but, go back and look, the Titanic proves everything.. anyway funny joke lol..
donna: "shame you're not a woman anymore."
me: "shame you're not a dr. who anymore."
doct-HER -who.
@@djohn1671 Now now, don't mis(s)gender her/him/they/IT....etc...etc...😂😂😂
OP: Both talking to the impostor, not each other I presume?
@@3characterhandlerequired that's the quote from the show.
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 The first one is, I know. The second one is directed to Impostor I guess, not to Donna, even that Donna kind of was Doctor for a while.
Imagine if instead of race swapping Isaac Newton, that they actually researched some actual scientists and researchers from India and made the story around one of them...
But that would require actual work which they hate
That would require originality and effort.
The purpose isn't to honour people of other races and cultures who achieved something, but to cause fake outrage so they can scream about how oppressed they are.
Anna Bolena and Cleopatra will be proud of seeing Newton joining wakanda, who will be next? Too early for Lady Di??
I can suggest the great Satyendra Nath Bose.
"Progressive blackface" is a fantastic term to describe it.
I'm going to use that actually!
it make sense because they put a non-white actor in it but plays a white character.
gender swapped should also be called "progressive woman face".
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 Shouldnt that be called whiteface then?
I just call it white erasure and blackwashing. Thats what it is.
@@Likexner if it's white face then the actor is white. but to be fair, same meaning though.
I'm still in disbelief of the sheer balls on this production team to go in the direction they're going. after the undeniable drop in success. They're actively telling the most loyal who left to get bent & never come back. Unreal levels of hubris.
It's a lot more believable when you remember that the BBC is "publicly funded", or in other words, they have ZERO financial incentive to make marketable content. They get their money via the coercive force of the british government whether Dr. Who gets 10 million views or 10, so why not make whatever the hell they want regardless of public interest?
I mean biggest drama launch of the year and consolidated ratings in the 7 millions is not what I would call a drop in success
@@spacepenguins8939 😂😂😂😂😂
@@davidbarr9343 I know I usually find facts and figures hilarious as well
But why this franchise... I know 'the messaging' has affected many others, but why *this* one. It used to be a whimsical science fiction show, originally for kids, now it's an all out medium to lecture on ideology.
I liked that the banging noise turned out to be the captain's body hitting the ship. Its very rare you see a dead horse flogging back, which just sums up Doctor Who at this point.
I miss the classic Doctor Who when the writers didn't care how timelords reproduced or had fun with each other.
agree
reproducing would imply they are male and female which they definitely don't want to show on screen. Last I checked two dicks can't reproduce. Nothing against dicks obviously as I got one myself but that doesn't change the fact that I can't actually get myself pregnant so there will be no reproducing lol xD
I can't get over the hypocrisy of RTD and his team. They introduce an opnely gay, black Doctor but feel the need to do 3 Tennant episodes to build the audience back up for him. They also have so little faith in Ncuti working that they come up with this Bi regeneration idea to reassure fans that the "real" Doctor is still out there if/when the ratings for Ncuti fall off a cliff. They also hammer home the importance of not assuming gender or pronouns in the same episode that has wheelchair lady saying "evening BOYS" and every subsequent episode goes back to assuming everyone's pronouns. They call out Davros for being a negative stereotype only to have a wheelchair bound UNIT advisor that is more cliched than Davros ever was. They criticise the Doctor for being a useless Male presenting Time Lord then hype him up when they realise they can make him gay. They criticise racism but happily race swap a real life historical person for the sake of progressivism. Utter hypocrisy.
I love how they also assume the gender of a dead skeleton horse lol, magical
They also inadvertently insult transmen and masculine nonbinary people by trying to attribute incompetence to being "male presenting."
Let's just conveniently forget about:
Rose Tyler(Season 1 & 2)
Joan Redfern(Human Nature & The Family of Blood)
Queen Elizabeth(The Day of the Doctor)
River Song(Seasons 4 through 9)
Yeah interesting how he just keeps falling for women despite "being gay". Hell in Human Nature and Family of Blood he sealed all his memories and he still fell for a woman. Meanwhile despite good old Captain Jack being super handsome and willing to screw just about anything with a pulse never did the "totally gay" doctor start any kind of romantic relationship with him. So strange almost like this is all BS to force an agenda.
I think the idea was that regenerating changed it? but that's just moronic.
@@marhawkman303 that wouldn’t work with Donna saying she had always noticed it had always been simmering below the surface though. The implication from that would be he was a closeted homosexual even in his 10th regeneration.
@@InDeathWeLove My take there is that, like a lot of people, she was projecting and what she said wasn't really true. Or, she was trying to make him feel better by saying something "nice"... that wasn't true at all.
@marhawkman303 Rather insulting to gay men as well. Especially with the recent scandal overv the Tavistock Clinic and it's "Let's trans the gay away" agenda.
@@user-so8hc7ry3k you are aware gay people aren’t bisexual right?
Doctor Who has always been pretty close to accurate when interacting with historical characters. One of the best episodes was when he brought Van Gogh to present day museum, that was awesome and perfect casting of Tony Curran as Van Gogh who looks just like him. Let’s make Ghandi white and watch them freak out…I would love to see that now, just to see how pissed the wokies get.
They won't do that because India will be also pissed and would ban Dr Who there. That's why in novels Gandhi is always good, almost perfect and everyone around him loves him.
@@RunyaEithelNar sounds like a people that has self respect for their country. Too bad the state funded BBC which should represent the nation properly doesn’t promote national pride.
The writing isn't any different than it was in Chibnal's era. Bringing Tennant back wasn't going to fix it. We already knew they were going right back to "diversity" when his 3 specials were over. Doctor Who was on the slide with more and more woke creeping in over Capaldi's era, and it was stone cold dead with the Timeless child. The pandering and messaging has just become so comically over the top now it's a parody of a parody, it doesn't signal the death of the series, everything after the Timeless Child has only thrown dirt on the coffin.
They haven't even waited until Tennant's specials are over. Right out of gate, things have been "business as usual, nothing to see here". Nobody has reflected on The Timeless Child, nobody has taken stock of how utterly the Dr Who brand has been broken open, and nobody in charge seems interested in making the changes needed to win back the viewers.
But no, the next Doctor's eras failures will be laid at the feet of ist and phobe viewers, and not because of the poor creative choices of those in charge of Doctor Who.
They don't and never wanted to "fix" anything. David Tennant was a tool used as nostalgia bait to get fans to watch, while they destroy his character and only that.. just like Indiana Jones, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, James Bond, The Terminator, and the long list of everything else purposefully destroyed.
The problem is, Chibs was using the gender and race thing as a sword and shield against the folk who would call out his lack of talent as a writer. He was only capable of the bare minimum crap, queer baiting and dissing men. RTD is a much greater threat to the show as he has no fear of pushing these messages as fas as they will go. He will happily make a gay Doctor the focus of episodes with him falling in love and getting physical with other men in upcoming episodes. He will have no problem in dressing Ncuti in a tartan skirt (not a kilt) just to say that gender bending is fine. He is willing to do all this crap that Chibs only ever touched on, then use a sledgehammer approach to preach it.
@@garym6315Davies can't preach in an empty church...
@@darania1RTD is ateist.
I watched the first episode with my 16 year old daughter. Both of us were cringing at the crowbarred in messaging. It ruined what would have been a perfectly mediocre and illogical story.
Current year Doctor Who wistfully dreams of again being mediocre and illogical.
Younglings love to be lectured to, not.
The reason the "Timeless Children" don't really work, is because in the episode "The End of the World" The tree lady, tells the Doctor she knows where he's from. If he was one of these TC then that wouldn't work. Because he wouldn't really register as a Time Lord on her machine.
Was the timeless children something done during Jodie Whittaker's tenure?
@@catwoman7462 Absolutely.
Imagine being a businessman, waking up in the morning wondering, how can I piss off my customers today?
Imagine being a customer and being forced to pay for something they don’t like.
@@michael_houghtonwe're not forced, we're choosing to, for now. But it won't last much longer, and then the business we've loved for 60 years years will go bust. And everyone loses. 😢
Every single time when people say something like this and insert themselves into this, it only shows that they have a serious problem that needs a professional help. The rating continues to fall, media and Russel continues running their mouth making things even worst, and after the three special and move on to the next doctor it's going to get even worst. It'll be so bad they'll have no choice but to shut down the franchised and reboot it all to desperately to get the fans back. lol. And I highly doubt Russel is coming back to Doctor Who since he not only ruin his own reputation, but now people lost respect for him. The dude should never come back.
RTD isn't coming back to Dr Who, he's trying to get in with Disney and get those big money projects and a seat at the trough.
@@thanqualthehighseer Lol good luck with that if that happens.
To them, writing their “trauma” and self inserting themselves is their therapy.
They're doing it to spite people. It strokes their Egos.
@@thanqualthehighseer Disney are haemoraging millions and going into damage control mode. I hope they have more sense than to hire on a frankly Genderqueer obsessed washed out writer like RTD. Everything he has ever written has been about gays and social justice, and other than doctor who and Queer as folk back in the day most of it has been a flop.
Isaac Newton was as brown as Anne Boleyn was black.
Notice Donna says "I always thought there was something under the surface." So they're retconning the entirety of David Tenants Dr for...reasons?
They're pulling a Jean grey.
He wasn't romantically interested in her, so he must be gay.
@@toddnolastname4485 But he was romantically interested in Rose Tyler, so she must have been trans?
They take great pleasure in ruining everything that the fans once loved IMO, like little kids breaking all the toys out of spite. Well, the fans can also close their wallets, deny them their clickbait, and stop watching every bit of their content out of "spite" too. Enjoy essentially talking to yourself at this point as the fans continue to flee, BBC.
Matt Smith's Dr. was interested in both Amy and Clara, 11 and 12 were married to River too right? There has also been 0 gay Drs. @@martindixon54
I was "never" an RTD/Tennant Fanboy,
These changes were made for the sake of agenda and not for art or entertainment's sake!
Sick of being lectured to for not liking this trash!
So done with this show!💩💀
👍🏾
RTD isn't just shitting on Who's legacy but his own.
To all you long time Dr Who fans out there: hi 👋 I just want to say that even though I’m not, never have and never will be a Dr Who fan; I see you and I know how it feels, trust me. I know what it’s like to see the thing that brought you and many others so much joy twisted beyond recognition, to be actively hated and insulted by the very people profiting from something long standing but is now in tatters, to the new 'fans' who will stick around *only* if their very specific ideologies are fulfilled, eventually get bored and move onto to something else to scream about until that too, is stunning and brave. I see you, you’re not alone and all I can say to you is I’m very sorry and I wish I could fix it for you. I may not be a fan and know next to nothing about the franchise, but what I do know is the true fans who stuck around all these years and showed nothing but support, only to have your faces spat in. You all deserved so much better.
Thanks mate. Long term (over 40 years) fan here. I feel the same for everybody else who's had their shows destroyed.
It's fine! Shows end, and this one went out with Capaldi. It doesn't matter to me if Chibnall and RTD made a genderqueer slash fiction of the show after it ended, it's their time and effort they are burning, not mine!
They can no more edit their nonsense into the show that existed since 1963 than they can add an extra prologue chapter to the Bible.
How can you not like or watch Doctor Who ? Its the best TV show ever made, so why wouldn't you be apart of that especially if you like sci fi or genre stuff? Anyways, Doctor Who has always been woke, progressive what ever you want to call it. Az probably really enjoyed the episodes behind the scenes, hard not to if your a die hard Doctor Who fan which Az is and if you actually watch the specials, the 'wokeness' is not that distracting and they are actually very entertaining specials to watch and with updated special FX Doctor Who is finally becoming fully realised. I personally don't feel spat in the face because I already know the show has always been progressive, woke what ever you want to call it and what Doctor Who deservers is support because its not just any old show, its TV history in the making as it will be around long after when you and I are dead and gone, despite the delusion of people who think it will be cancelled anytime soon. Anyhow, forever yours , a Doctor Who fan.
@@thejacal2704 it is what it is, I’ve found other things to enjoy and I’m happy I’ve moved on
@@lesigh1749 I know, that’s a good way to look at it 😊
This whole bit of the Doctor saying that Newton was "hot" was just to shoehorn in the idea that he now fancies guys, so that when the "new" Doctor is introduced, we'll get loads of him making quips and comments when he looks at other guys.
Very likely. And isnt it interesting that for fifty years as heterosexual male he was not at all in your face about sexuality and almost never referenced it at all outside of being a father and grandfather. The moment he is gay, its sluty and salcious comments and sniggering teenage levels of maturity.
You could draw a conclusion about the realtive classiness of Straight and gay people from that.
The destruction of Dr Who is what made my mother hate the woke.
I think many fans are in the same boat. Ironically the pandering is rapidly turning people against woke ideology
The audience that they are trying to pander to is an unappreciative lot who will cancel them in a heartbeat the moment they feel offended. And trust me it will happen.
The show should of stuck to what made it great in the first place. RIP Dr. Who
It's weirdly important to the alphabet people that characters they like on-screen share the same fetishes as the showmakers and their audience.
@@dagsby4685 Being trans and gender nonbinary is.
The "representation is many times higher than seen in the population, so its over representation
@@dagsby4685 It doesn't matter what you think is true, nature is not a matter of personal opinion.
And if you want representation then it would be about the percentage of people on the screen of each demographic as are present in the general population. That's what representation means. FYI the BBC routinely overrepresents "BAME" characters by a factor of around ten times as many as are in the populace. LGBT is also overrepresented already.
So you do NOT want representation, or you would be calling for less.
@@dagsby4685 Are you kidding? Every show in existence for the past decade or so has one or more openly gay characters lol. If you want to look up all the gay characters in marvel or specifically the shows and films just google. There are lots. Its also funny because i know the exact point in time in which every studio must have decided that they need to include a gay character in every show because it happens at the same point in every long running series, it is quite funny. A lot of the times they never even bothered to make a new character, they just outright swapped the sexual orientation of pre-existing ones regardless of how stupid that is when it comes to the narrative of "its not a choice". An example of this was Willow in Buffy the vampire slayer. Where she was sexually attracted to Xander for several seasons, then had a long term relationship with Oz and then out of nowhere they were like oh shes gay now, even though that is not how that works. That example is before the time period i mentioned but its still a funny example. Kind of reminds me of how tone deaf RTD is in the starbeast where he equates trans people and non binary people as if they are the same. They stick things in these shows, with no real care just to make the companies look inclusive.
@@dagsby4685 Again, your agreement is not required. You are clearly on board this crazy train of "representation", so your opinion is tainted.
In the MCU the LGBT characters so far are Loki, America Chavez, Valkyrie, Ayo, Phastos, Sylvie, Korg, Negasonic and Yukio, Wiccan, Deadpool, Nikki Ramos, and Jeri Hogarth. We could add Captain Marvel (all three of them) but that's not confirmed, they just act like it in the screen versions.
That a LOT of representation in a series that has around 38 superheroes in the shows and movies to date. Are one in three people LGBT in real life? 🤔
@@dagsby4685 Those are MCU characters, that have appeared in the films and TV shows, not the comics. You got exactly what you asked for, and by magical coincidence, it seems the MCU has overrepresented LGBT characters by TEN TIMES the percentage they are present in the real world's population. is that enough "representation" for you?
And what do you want now, full-on "I'm GAYYYYYYY" dialogue and romance? Straight people don't act that way, why do you need gay characters to do it?
U had a great line AZ, "In space... nobody can hear your pronouns."😂
Always saw him as an Alien with different sexual preferences, But they gotta pat themselves on the back to try and get the shocking "WE MADE HIM CANON BISEXUAL, LOOK HOW AMAZING WE ARE".
The dude has been kissing men for years, I think we even have compilations of it.
Narratively, it’s pointless and adds nothing to the character. It actually weakens the Doctor.
The Doctor should remain ABOVE human sexuality.@@chazzitz-wh4ly
@@chazzitz-wh4ly how does it weaken him?
@@sebicmiel4221 For 26 to 33 years, he was a character that *was not human* and did not have human sensibilities or the need to rub bits of his body against somebody else.
And then the morons at Fox decided to mess with him. And then the moron Russell Davies had to mess with him. And then the braindead demon Moffat messed with him and then Chibnall messed with all of it and then Davies went completely insane.
Time Lords ARE NOT HUMAN. They live at least 20 times longer. In the books between the TV series, there was an arc with Time Lords not even having biological births, they were woven in machines according to a House quota.
You have to be a tiny-minded human to think the Doctor needs to kiss others. You have to have lost most of that tiny capacity to be collecting compilations of video clips of it.
Well, Davis has already resorted to calling everyone intolerant bigots for not likely the first episodes. My guess is racism will be blamed on the ill-fated voyages of Ncuti Gatwa.
Of course, they will blame it on , instead of blaming the writers
They'll blame ists phobe's isms and men even if women don't watch it either 🤣
Russell T Davies said back in 2010, during a DVD special feature, that he believes science-fiction is "very much reserved for heterosexuality, actually shockingly so", and that he saw it as his "job on this Earth" to "push down those barriers". So, he's always been upfront about it. He just has much more freedom now, and a BBC who are happier to give him that freedom rather than gatekeeping one of their prestige programs and maintain Dr Who's integrity.
While most of us are probably fine with gay representation, done sympathetically as Davies did during his first run. Where things have really changed now is that the lead character isn't "off-limits" to them anymore. They've already run him through the wringer of gender politics and race politics, so messing around with his sexuality is pretty much the next and only place left to go.
People like Gary (Nerdrotic) prophesized this would happen when they were ok with casting a girl as the Doctor, and further prophesized that Russell T Davies coming back wasn't the saviour on a horse many interpreted him to be. RTD is exactly the kind of guy the BBC want. He's an idealogue, and if anything, even less inclined to be conservative about the show's past and characters than Chris Chibnall before him, if that can be believed.
Rest in peace, Doctor Who.
Major typo in your Russell T Davies quote that flips the meaning. You wrote "heterosexuality" aka straight when you mean to write "homosexuality" aka gay.
...except that in new who you'd be forgiven for thinking gay people make up about 30% of the population
No, that was the quote. He was saying science fiction is generally too 'heretosexual' and that he sees it as his mission to change that. @@lamelama22
Heterosexual
I remember reading a Doctor Who Magazine article in the 90s, questioning why the show was so popular with gay people. It was always an asexual show so gays didn't feel as if they weren't welcome which might have been the case if they had to watch heterosexual relations every week. Similarly, kids associated with the show because they weren't interested in the lovey dovey stuff anyway. Basically it was made for everyone because it never focused too much on any one demographic. Compare that to now where the exact opposite is true.
Producers : isaac newton was british
DEI : he's black now
ESG : always has been
The question now is, will this be a hat-trick of consecutive worst ratings for Tennant?
Edit: Also, are you okay Az? Getting enough sleep? Because the longer I watched this video the more pronounced the bags under your eyes felt.
Yes.
They’ll make him trans in episode 3. He’ll marry a straight man and they’ll adopt a black child from Africa.
The ratings are based on just 5,000 homes and lets be honest, they won't be surveying many people in council estates or the Welsh valleys will they?
@@brandonm4550 Adopting black children from Africa is peak white saviour syndrome!
Captain Jack was a great character in the Doctor Who universe a well written Gay character. This is Woke Doctor Who forced sexuality.
I like that character, and didn't care about his sexually
Because of his perversion I never watched Torchwood.
Member when the Doctor knew exactly what He was doing with the machine He designed and built? RIP William Hartnell
One of the biggest appeals of Doctor Who for me was that it takes place in a past that is as accurate as possible and then it introduces the fantasy to the story.
Race swapping historical figures really ruins that and pisses me off.
Even if it is only a small part at the start, I'm not going to bother watching this one, thanks for doing it for me :)
You just know he put it in precisely to annoy "all the right people"too. He thinks only racists and bigots would object and he wants to drive away those sorts.
It was always intended to be historically educational, that was one of the main focuses of the show back in 1963. As a kid in the 80s and 90s watching the old stories, it really did its job - I would watch stories about The Aztects, The Romans, The Highlanders and then read more about that time period. Loved reading about Doc Holliday after The Gunfighters. The show should always be pretty much historically accurate as a starting point then the fictional adventure should be added to that. They're literally starting off by not only lying to the audience but treating the whole thing as a fictional character and a joke skit that means nothing. It is the exact opposite of education as it creates a generation who think people like Newton are just characters for entertainment.
@@garym6315Funny because The Gunfighters is not what really happen in history.
@mayotango1317 Sure, and you could say the same thing about most of the historicals. Doctor Who has always been a fantasy show...but it also has elements of real history in it as well, and is so much more effective when it tries to be as historically accurate as possible with its time travelling premise. Any historically inaccuracies used to be unintentional, but now the producers are doing it on purpose.
Absolute desecration off a legendary series. Very disappointed in David Tennant, he has sold his soul to the Panderverse. Tennant is now on my permanent black list.
He's a twat. Anyone who brings their children up gender-neutral is.
Dude calm down😂😂😂
@@sebicmiel4221 Loser. Guy makes a point and your response is to tell him to calm down. Stop consuming his oxygen.
I went off him during season 2 of Good Omens, and find his acting annoying now. This new Doctor Who hasnt made me like him any more.
Don't You Think He Looks Tired?
Pushing ideology has had it's day. I won't tolerate even 1% at this point. This episode had that trash so it is trash. Hard stop.
So what would satisfy you in the end? Just curious. What would constitute a non-woke show?
your tantrum doesn't mean that much, sadly.
@@calus7958
You don't care what the answer is.
It is like having a delicious vegetarian meat-free Caesar salad and finding a live baby slug behind a lettice leaf. Not only is it meat you dislike but it is alive and 'kicking'. It does not matter that most of the salad is veggie. You don't want to eat any more and feel a bit sick that you have eaten so much already. Not only does this put you off Caesar salad for life, you decide never to go to that resturant again.
@@sibionicIt means quite a lot and you know it.
As a bi woman, I find sexuality swapping established characters to be incredibly offensive. It’s akin to straight conversion therapy to me and it implies it’s a CHOICE
while I vehemently disagree with the idea that it ISN'T a choice, I'm glad we can both agree that just changing which set of chromosomes an established character is sexually aroused by is an incredibly scummy move.
Jack Harkness was what he was. It was a "Whatever" because he was a new character. It would be just as wrong to bring him back and turn him straight. You can't do that. Regardless of how you feel about the character and what the character should be. You might be cheering him on or hating his guts, but that's the character.
Well according to Stonewall it is a choice because sexuality is based upon who people present as and not who they are born as (Ie a woman is a gay man if she says she is a gay man). And that's what these lot believe as confirmed by a similar statement in the last episode about a male presenting Timelord that pissed off so many genuine trans people for whom it isn't a choice (just as sexuality isn't a choice).
@@user-fg5zx4gz1z Eh, not really. Stonewall would argue who you present as is based on something that isn't your choice (your internal gender) but they can't even define the genders so really who gives a fuck. You take this to it's logical end point and gender has no more meaning than your name.
Agreed. It's not a choice, and anyone who thinks it is has never been there. But ignorance will ignorance.
If only their video playback had a "disable all woke ideology" feature so normal people could watch the show without attempted forced brainwashing.
It would only show a few mins then.....................
Thats like saying "if only shit smelled like roses".
They want you to be exposed to it, and to expose your childrens, they want their propaganda to become normalized, they want every human being on earth to hate themselves and all others around them, they want kids to be confused about their gender and sexual attraction, and to feel bad if they dare to be in the majority of straight people. This is all it is, they want the humans of tomorrow to be as sad and confused as they are now.
Big man did you just call the existence of gay people “forced brainwashing”? Lmao you’re hilariously pathetic
Then it would be a 2 minute show
There's no rant like a HeelvsBabyface rant.
Mhm… so… did he just forget that it was during his first time playing the doctor we found out the doctor used to have a wife and child?
Remember folks forced ideologies isn't consensual.
".... you can temper their reaction and change it if you introduce these images to people happily and normally and calmly when they're young". Russel T Davis.
(His quote from another presentation)
Wow. That is potentially very very scary dialogue there.
I think it's one thing to race swap a fictional character but when you race swap a real person that's just straight up rewriting history. Something these very same people claim to hate and yet here they are doing it.
and it would be so easy to just make Issac's maid poc instead, if they wanted to add a black face. but nope, she is not important enough to be black (and prob slavery or something) so it must be the big man himself
@@dagsby4685 If you're going with that logic, why not use a real historical figure who actually WAS that ethnicity? Why did they even need to bother with Isaac Newton at all?
And that's the WORST part of this. It implies there are NO historical figures they could meaningfully use instead. They're insulting BILLIONS of people by race swapping for a token PoC character.
@@dagsby4685 with the same logic you could ask what was the point of doing it in the first place for a tiny part of the beginning of a Television show, and lets not pretend the actor chosen was chosen based on his performance of saying mavity. The only logical leap you can get from it is its either the case that they have a checklist of diversity percentages per episode (whci his scummy in and of itself and has been proven to be the case in these companies) or the showrunners/casting directors did it to intentionally annoy people (also scummy), or blind casting (which it wasnt because if you see the interview for the casting choice they thought it would be fun to mix it up as its a tv show)
@@dagsby4685 ok I liked good and interesting stories. also I like consistant characters. le's see what fits here:
the part wit iisac newton had nothign to do with the story and at best it is used for a cheap joke with "mavity". it doesn't set up the story and doesn't have any other reason to be here. so storytelling is already inconsistent.
but there is one other setup this start does apart from shoving a poc newton in our faces for no reason: to make the doctor gay or at least bi. this happens with his short conversation with donna, who mentions how hot he was and the doctor agrees. she even mentioned "it was always under the surface". now I invite you to rewatch all episodes of the past, who had donna as a companion. then tell me, where the doctor had any gay atributes showing through. but I save you the time: there are none. first donna thinks he wants to molest her in his box, later he regulary mentions rose and how he misses her. he never has gay intentions.
so now we have inconsistant char writing as well. somewhere later, they also confirm that the timeless child is cannon. something else, everyone hated. and on a personal note: while the episode was mostly good (except the outliers), seeing donna permanently reminds me how her arc got blasted to bits as she was saved by the most stupid thing they could come up with: by identifiing as a woman. so even the rest of this episode has a bitter taste to it
@@dagsby4685 for sure it will come up later, prob when he inevitably regenerates into gay poc for the next season.
and the tragic end of donna is exactly the point. they took it all away for making the doctors and donnas sacrifice look stupid. because apparently she could just "LeT iT gO, lol" and it just didn't happen before because the doctor forced his masculinity on donna by wiping her memory instead. it needed the infinite wisdom of a 15 year old to enlighten us, that there is a better way
When the message itself is wrong, there is no right way to push it. Muh good writing doesnt make pervert propaganda any less evil.
I haven't watched a single new episode since Capaldi's 2nd season. Doctor Who is long dead, now they are just desecrating the corpse.
Same. This series ended with Capaldi's retirement for me.
I can't wait for black lesbian Albert Einstein.
It's like Dr Who has Taika Waititi as a covert executive producer.
Why? No reason apart from wanting to take everything over, that was never theirs to start with.
Honestly, I wish that had been a joke- just have a black, chiseled, shirtless guy in a powder wig as Isaac Newton, que up the expectation that Donna would say “I didn’t expect him to be black,” and swap it out for “hot.” And then have Tennant shrug and go “I suppose? I didn’t really notice.”
What pissed me off is that they're calling The Doctor an "idiot" for the past two episodes. The greatest detective in the universe is an idiot. Riiiiight.
I wonder if it would be okay to cast Kenau Reeves as Nelson Mandela in a film about his life or do you think someone might object.. just a thought
dr. who: "nelson how are you?"
mandela: "dude!"
It would be terrific, ryan Gosling own that character.
Keanu will have to be doctor King junior instead.
I'm waiting for an all white cast remake of Roots.
They should hire Dylan Mulvaney for the role. They will be happy about it I'm sure.
The Doctor Who production team have one job: create an entertaining family sci-fi adventure series. They seem to have forgotten that simple objective. Classic Doctor Who had social messages within its storytelling, of course it did. But it was written by good writers (remember those?) who would subtly weave allegory into their story for the audience to discover - or not, that was left up to the individual. Take the story at face value or read more into it, that was your choice as the viewer. Gone are the days of layered story telling. These days you must be beaten over the head with the message until you submit. And even if you’re already an ally to the cause, you still get beaten with it.
Exactly. And if you chose to read more into them, there were multiple possible perspectives and conclusions. They encouraged you to think, rather than _telling you what_ you should think. Now it doesn't just tell the audience what to think; it yells at them and harangues them with passive aggressive authoritarian diktats. Thoroughly unpleasant.
Its a well known historical fact that isaac newton got his theory of gravity when a coconut fell on his head.
Wasn't it a banana? 🍌
@@LRTrack thought it was A female
aardvark?
Lol..."In space no-one can hear your pronouns"
That's got to be a tshirt
Japan did an anniversary special better with Godzilla Minus One. Frikking awesome!
I also rewatched Tom Baker's The Pirate Planet again to remind me of what Doctor Who once was. Fun sci-fi adventure!
I can't wait for the episode where they visit Queen Elizabeth II & she's a black paraplegic lesbian.
Or to the Garden of Eden with an obese Eve and a wheelchair-bound Adam.
I used to be able to tolerate the nonsense thinking "What's the big deal it's just a little comment." and now I've gotten to the point of where even a mention of it even in a roundabout way, and I feel like Az during his starfield rant. Tolerance gone due to the message being pushed so heavy handed. Thanks for suffering for us so we don't have to waste our time with this slop and giving your honest review, much appreciated.
Because you "took" it they pushed even harder.
Perverts trying to brainwash children into their pervert cult _shouldnt_ be tolerated. It doesnt matter how the message is pushed when the message itself is wrong.
Its the death of a thousand cuts strategy. They rely on that. Each individual attack is so minor and petty that if seen in isolation they can all be dismissed as too silly to be offended by. Its only when you stand back and see the wider pattern and realize they are doing little digs at blackfacing history and Queering away heteronormativity EVERYWHERE, in EVERYTHING that you see how insidious their agenda really is.
@@lesigh1749
Agreed! It's Marxism 101!🤔
@@dagsby4685 You would know about looking like a fool.
They can never help themselves
"In space... no one can hear your PRONOUNS." 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
They gave him the Iceman treatment, this time with Dr Karen in the role of Jean Grey.
He'll either menstruate or get pregnant in the next one.
Yeah was it in an interview somewhere that Russel T Davies described this as more adult themed. Now maybe it's because my standards for storytelling hasn't fallen below the ocean but that didn't really come across to me at all. Even as a child I don't think I would have been afraid of this EP. A shapeshifter who has your memories has been done many times in fiction and many of them are utterly terrifying yet I didn't get that here. I don't know maybe it's because I've seen how other writers have done this concept that I've become immune to the horror of it.
Yeah mentioning the timeless children was an utter mistake that I groaned watching that part. Overall I would say this an average episode to me.
I think the adult themes he is wanting to increase are ADULT themes.
What a spectacular job of celebrating 60 years of ...ummm.... rewriting history.
I felt everything you said. i knew they would screw it up. RIP Dr Who :(
I'm glad you found WiFi in the ghost land
You know what I watched of the 2nd episode? The Wilf reunion on YT. That's all I needed, and even that felt off. We've learnt all we needed from the Children of Need special and the first special.
I feel so bad for Bernard Cribbins. He was a great entertainer and actor with a long career making people happy, and his last ever appearance is in this hot mess.
He deserved so much better.
The show should have ended with Smith's Doctor. Giving the Doctor first 13 more regenerations, and now basically unlimited lives, was the first major step towards crapping on the original canon. And it's made the Doctor basically invincible now since he can regenerate after any death. There are no more stakes. And all we have left is a husk of a show being used to brainwash people into accepting certain ideologies.
It's a good thing that Whittaker was the 13th 😊 everything after it is canonically invalid.
Maybe if/when it's rebotted 15-20 years from after its final breath this run, they have the perfect opportunity to paint everything (maybe even Whittakers doctor herself) as a fever dream(s) the doctor had, and the last canonical doctor is the usual doctor. And after the actual final 13th doctor, maybe there's a way to return the granddaughter to be the forerunner of the show?
I imagine most of the remaining Who fans tuned in just to see the beloved Bernard Cribbins. The audience figures for the next one will be diabolical. Diabolicaler...
Me: I don’t care who you are! The Timelord Wokeness is wrong!!!
Progressive black face is a genius term, first time hearing it but I will use it from now on
I'm curious, with each regeneration it changed the look of the doctor and his appearance. Is this 14th Doctor supposed to *BE* the 10th Doctor, or is this 14th Doctor a new distinct Doctor that happens to share the 10th Doctor's face?
He shares the same face and mannerisms but the real 10 is dead. That’s why this one is all confused over who he is and suddenly finds men hot 🙄. I think he should’ve had a completely different personality than 10.
@@tvguy61 I did some more research, and the popular opinion is he has returned to the same face/body and mannerisms. He's still a different Doctor but a mature version of the 10th. RTD didn't want to make him much different because everyone knows Tennant as 10. Yet nobody is saying he's the 10th brought back to life.
Did RTD not remember the doctor was (is) married to a woman. Makes sense he would fancy a woman while he was acted by a woman. Or am i barking up the wrong birch?
Just a thought, there's a doctor's daughter they could have used if they needed a female lead in the odd episode.
He left Gallifrey with his granddaughter in a stolen TARDIS. He had a wife and family. They want everyone to forget that part.
I’m not watching anything pushing agendas anymore. I’m sick of it.
On a long enough timeline, we all become Daleks.
This episode seemed like a copy of the episode "Listen" when Peter Capaldi's Doctor goes to the end of time when everyone is dead but there is the perfect hider creature that they never see. Similarities being that it is the end of time in Listen and similarly the end of the universe in this episode. They have the same knocking mechanic as well. The enemy has an unknown form in Listen, you don't see the enemy, and in this episode the enemy/enemies doesn't really have a form of its own; it just copies.
I don't know if anyone else had this vide but for me it was just a rework of Listen. I think that's why it felt like Dr. Who again, well, with distracting added BS.
Oh! You combine "Listen" and "Flatline" and just up the brightness a bit, you've got this episode! 😁
With Disney as a backer now for Doctor Who (funded the show back in October 2022). Disney acquired the rights to stream future series episodes exclusively starting in Nov 2023, this shouldn't surprise anyone that they are destroying yet another Franchise.
Mousey ate the rainbow till his tummy ached
How many gold coins did it take?
The princess, the hero, the man with a saber
The pirate, the athlete, the hat who wants the grail
The doctor, detective, the demon and the angel
The wizard, the teacher, master of the table
(Still writing the rest of the rhyme but it is intended to go similarly to "school, school, don't be late")
@billytk1225: Walt Disney would be turning in his grave.
"In space, no-one can hear your pro-nouns" 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Did people forget Davies' constant 'gay gay gay' back in his first time around with this show?
I'd like to see peter capalidi wake up in the shower like bobby ewing did in 'dallas' and realise that the last 5 years were just a dream!
I suspect that with proper psychiatric care Russell T. Davies might eventually be able to tell good stories again.
This was a good story
My personal low-point that everyone seems to have missed, is when the try to stop the baddies with salt. They suggest that the human capacity for doublethink is what will save the day. It's littered throughout the episode and it's even in the title, as they talk about a war song, but it's also for children.
My tardis is also detecting danger and it's about to bugger off too!
I honestly didn't care at all that it was clear the next doctor was most likely gay, but I do care that they made my 10th doctor bi. I know older Who fans didn't like the relationships, but I liked both Rose and River, so this change really pisses me off, and it made no sense. I wouldn't have even changed if it wasn't for Imposter Donna saying he was always gay/bi and didn't know it. This change is just a badly written a** pull.
im not saying your wrong about everything else, but the part where donna says it was always underneath that he was bi/gay, that was after they left the tardis in the space ship, so before the dopplegangers formed physically.
@josephmath1 Lmao, no I meant imposters not by the episode, but since these specials started. I never was a big fan of Donna, but by the end, I grew to like her. The Donna in these past two episodes on the other hand makes me feel justified for hating her years ago, so I like to just pretend that this is an Imposter for my own sake. Just like I'm now choosing to believe this is the 14th doctor only wearing the 10th's face at this point because I don't want to have my memory polluted anymore.
@@weirdchick257 ah, alright, and justified
At least I have my Tom Baker DVD's...
waiting for the episode where they make Martin Luther King white and see if that fine as well
"Progressive Blackface" is the greatest thing I've ever heard!
Steven Moffat knew what he was doing.
The problem is, everybody is realizing that Russell Davies can't "destroy" Doctor Who - because in 2005, Doctor Who never actually came back. The whole Nu Who show deserves to disappear and be forgotten, just like Game of Thrones.
Precisely.
until Matt Smith it was good, yes with highs and lows but overall good, a bit extreme to say that deserves to disappear, sound like revisionism to me, almost everyone liked it, the real problems started with Capaldi doctor, it went so mediocre in general and woke elements started to appear here and there
Even comparing it to David Tennant’s ‘farewell’ specials, they fall flat. Waters of Mars was brilliant, even Planet of the Dead is preferable! At least they had a fun scientific advisor, not some super-awesome Mary Sue.
"Don't believe what the history books say, Isaac Newton was an Indian!"
-- Granny Pinkett
I warned everybody that Davies was going to be just as bad as chinballs. It was under him that they first started Dr Who down the woke nonsense.
Yup.
But he wasn't like THIS before.
@@servantofaeie1569 Last time he was around the show, the BBC still had a few straight white blokes working for it, and there was a modicum of restraint on total agenda content in shows.
Now its anything goes.
@@servantofaeie1569
He was probably just biding his time!
It's just a case of Slowly, Slowly...🤔😉
RIP AZ
Im into 80's movies. Good old time of movies with no diversity and no woke crap. Very relaxing for the mind
It was so sudden and shoehorned in that even he was surprised as if he hadn't read the script beforehand.
Cue Quantum Leap paraphrasing, "I'm gay?"
The Ninth Doctor - played by Christopher Ecclestone - was bisexual. And that was 15 years ago.
Anyone surprised by Tennant's Fourteenth Doctor is WAY behind the curve.
I think Davis is very familiar with things getting rammed in. I'm sure if there's a ramming to be had, Russell will be first in line.
The harder and deeper the better no doubt 😉😂
Tennant: [reading the script] "Is that who I am now?"
Davies: "Perfect, we'll add that to the special!"
This is probably the worst anniversary special ever !!
The first two haven’t celebrated Doctor Who at all.
@@catbhoy all theve done is destroy it
Who ever thought Dimensions In Time would be usurped as the worst Doctor Who anniversary special ever? Yet somehow RTD did it.
@@UranusMcVitieFish-yd7oq hell I'd even take the lenny Henry one over this garbage
@@catbhoythere should have Been more of a running arc of course the idea of killing Donna put forth on last week's BBC would have done but of course they can't do something fun for the 60th when you need to push the message
I do not understand how are they not able to see that humilliating the other charecter just makes the other look condescending and just plain unlikeable. Creatively bankrupt.
For Dr Who does it really matter anymore its been dead for years now best thing for everyone to do is not watch or talk about it because if no-one is watching revenue goes down if people don't talk about it then there message is no longer relevant and they will understand that its no longer working