CSI emergency vehicles, same place that built our tankers. It was the truck cost, about 25k, plus about $30,000 for the pump, and about 30k for labor and building, so in 2002, the truck was about 85k total. So in todays world, you could probably build one for around 150k and you would probably need an F450 or larger, this f450 is about maxed out, so if we wanted a bigger pump we’d need a f550.
Reading the comments I think many people missed the part where they said the town doesn’t have a municipal water system. In this case a hydrant truck makes too much since. It’s cheaper and faster to establish a water supply and you are not having to dedicate a pumper at every fire scene to draft. I like the thinking behind this truck. Very similar in using retired fire trucks as blocker vehicles for highway response so the brand new million+ rig is not destroyed.
You do realize that fire engines have that capability without that bs? I used to be a volunteer firefighter in a small town. Literally all we had to do was throw a strainer on the end of a hose, throw the hose in the pond and hook the other end to the truck and bam
@@jamesTBurke is that just the newer trucks? Is the ladder truck in this video not have the pump capacity and that why they needed the hydrant truck? Im curious now that you said that
San Francisco was saved by the Fire Boat Phoenix during the Loma Prieta Earth quake. The quake destroyed all the water mains in the marina district and the fire boat pumped water from the bay into a portable hydrant system that fed engines and other equipment all night long. Now SFFD has 3 fire boats.
As a retired Asst Chief, really think this WHOLE PAGE is amazing showing different fire houses, love the concept of asking questions like John Q Public May ask Also this is a great outside the box thinking you have a “hydrant” with out a hydrant and with out having to tie up an engine to draft when you really need it for suppression Thank you brother Keep up the great videos And be safe out there
Over here in the European Alps, it is almost standard equipment for fire departments to have man-portable pumps and drafting equipment on board a smaller truck, pickup or trailer. Very useful for when you have rivers, creeks and lakes all over the place and insufficient hydrant coverage outside towns. Setting up the pump and drafting water is the core discipline of our junior firefighter training, so by the time they join active duty, they know it well. They can also be used to relay water over long distances up mountain roads by having them in a chain line.
@@ffjsb true and you might get a kick out of this (Clifton Fire Department 2nd Alarm Fully Involved Attached Garage Fire Coppola Ct 2-10-18). Retired Arthritic 4 years ago After a fire is completely put out, buildings affected by smoke should be ventilated with fresh air to reduce odors. This may be a slow process depending on how much of the building was affected by smoke. If smoke damage was substantial, carpeting and other porous building materials can continue to off-gas residual smoke chemicals for some time. Buildings damaged by fire and smoke will also likely have significant damage from water used to extinguish the fire. In most cases, efforts to clean and repair these buildings should be performed by professional fire restoration companies. 3 JB91710 JB91710 4 years ago David I focus on the BIG PICTURE, not just One of the symptoms. That fire was creating NEW toxic gasses and New destructive heat. Before, BEFORE, they could have gotten inside, that fire could have and should have been stopped. It could Not be stopped from the inside! Should they bring a line inside to search and put out any fire that is getting in? Sure, BUT, they could not control the fire in the garage from the inside. If they eliminated That First, there would be No extension inside. My comments are Not to try to Educate you or change your mind. My comments are for the impressionable people who could be mislead by Yours. 2 Retired Arthritic Retired Arthritic 4 years ago What like this "JB91710 9 months ago You want to call a Spade a Spade Fat Boy? There's no way you could have been ANYTHING but a Fountain Statue. Guys your size can ONLY talk it. There sure as hell was No Way you could have Walked it." you can apologize and end the issue that you created or continue and get you ass embarrassed over and over again. You see there is no escaping the truth as you are finding our I am worse than a pit bull when I demand an apology I will continue to press for it until I get what I am entitled to. as far as educating me get stuffed here is a comment from another youtuber about me D Colby 1 month ago Damn David, I think you blew up JB's brain. He really needs to go away. I think you have forgotten more then he will ever know about firefighting. 4 JB91710 JB91710 4 years ago I'll tell you what, you post every comment you mad to me that led up to my comment and Then I'll apologize. Retired Arthritic Retired Arthritic 4 years ago Why none of the comments I made although insulting in response to your denigrating pejorative comments never crossed the line into violation of your legally protected rights. So I am not the one who is liable for a civil rights lawsuit. I am giving you an out to end this and you are refusing to take it and I have done so many times. I have also had to delete my account to stop a cyber attack on my computer from another source. You on the other hand decided to delete the comment in a sorry attempt to destroy the evidence so tampering with evidence is a federal crime. You take your choice discretion Oh unwise one remember the reason I am able to post that comment is a screen shot of the comment you made. Did I get nasty yes, did I violate your civil rights no. 3 JB91710 JB91710 4 years ago David Here's the deal, "I apologize for Anything I said to you that hurt your feelings." Now, with that said, in the nine years I have been responding to unsolicited responses to my comments on UA-cam, I have NEVER found it necessary to Personally attack anyone to get their attention and put them in their place. You, are the Only one. I happen to be a very nice and respectful person to people who Deserve respect but You stepped way over the line in your unrelenting and unsolicited Personal attacks to my fire fighting comments, Prior to my outburst to you. No I don't expect You to step up to the plate and apologize to me nor do I care because I am a Big Boy and names will never hurt me, but this comment is the Last I will respond to from you. As I said, I apologize for Anything I have ever said to hurt your feelings or disrespect you as a person! The End!
That's.... Not uncommon.... At all.... My home town of Broken Arrow, OK, all firefighters are trained medics, some are also certified paramedics. They even have gear in the ambulances to assist with firefighting efforts including SCBA gear/tanks. Granted our EMS is run by the fire dept, but even surrounding towns that contract EMS services like Bixby and Tulsa have trained medic firefighters. It just makes logical sense from a first response aspect when you start thinking about it.
I was a professional firefighter for 10 years. We had a very good water system. People don't appreciate the problems of not having a good water supply.
The US Navy does. Standard for us was 120-140 PSI on the firemain, with one (or possibly 2) 3500 GPM firepumps online. Standard hose size was 3", so obviously one man wasn't going to grab a hose and go...there would be an entire team assigned to a hose. When you are in the middle of the ocean, you either put out the fire or hit the lifeboats...There are no other options. There is a decided advantage to floating in an entire ocean of firefighting water. Unique to shipboard firefighting is the requirement that you ALSO have to pump the water back overboard. Sounds basic, but when you have the ability to pump about 12,500 GPM with all pumps online (3X3500 GPM electric, 1X2000 GPM steam), it's actually not that hard to end up with a major flooding issue as well.
@@kevincrosby1760yea the whole idea of having to deal with the run off changes that dynamic for sure!. Thank you for your service. And for the record I hated 3" Iines unless they went to a ground monitor lol.
@@thepitpatrol Most don't realize it, but Basic Firefighting is part of Navy Boot Camp. You don't get out of Boot Camp without having sprayed water on a fire. In addition, the first thing a ship generally does with a new sailor is send them to firefighting school, this time in a full trainer where you can play in 300F temps and just enough visibility to find the fire. They also trained us on how to tackle a 3" live hose that got away from the hose team. Not something that I would want to do in real life.
@@kevincrosby1760 hey listen Kevin. We had a distinct advantage. If we "saved the foundation" we didn't ever hear an call to abandon ship. Most people don't realize all the hats a military guy wears.
@@thepitpatrol Exactly. Firefighting was not my actual job. I was an Interior Communications Electrician...call it a cross between the phone repairman, a low-voltage electrician, and an electronics repair tech. In port I stood the DC Central watch...Firemain monitoring, alarm monitoring, etc. If there was fire or flooding, I would have had overall coordination of the response. If the engineering roving patrol reported anything unusual, I was expected to know what to do or who to call to resolve it. Nothing really unique about that particular watch...half of Engineering could have taken it, and most of those were officially qualified to do so. The general expectation was that anybody in Engineering could look at a given piece of major equipment and know what it was, why it needed to be there, and and how it worked at a basic level. EVERYBODY in Engineering knew how to start the TAS, and that the dry stuff goes on before the foamy stuff... If that failed there was the "oh shit" button, which gave you 3 minutes to run really fast before the boiler room and/or engine room had enough Halon dumped to displace most of the air in the space.
This is a GREAT page! You present different approaches to meet challenges and solve problems. The hydrant truck seems like a great apparatus, effectively providing useful service. - focused mission - tactical and nimble - fast deployment - cost effective - perfect role for reserve fire fighter I was surprised it was not equipped with: Dump tank Floating pump Scene lights
I watched a house fire, three alarm. I watched in amazement how the firefighters moved around. Very well orchestrated. I spoke to a firefighter after and he said that everyone has a job to do. You train as your fighting fires as well. Well done firefighters 🚒
Something similar also exists in Germany and is called the Hytrans Fire System (HFS). The system consists of a pump module, a basic container with a hose tank and equipment compartments, and a hose mounting device. The pump module consists of a hydraulic unit driven by a diesel engine, which drives the floating pump via appropriate hoses. The flow rate in bilge mode is about 8,000 l/min at 2.5 bar and in pressure mode about 3,000 l/min at 10 bar. This depends on the delivery head and the length of the line. The F line can be laid up to a speed of 40 km/h. The six-cylinder diesel engine, which is housed in the removable pump module and drives the hydraulic pump, has 200 hp. The hydraulic lines are connected to a floating pump via 60 m long lines.
@@murraystewartj thank you :) the joke is i am from the god be dam mother land of freedom USA. we will force you to use the USD for ya freedom of you will be invaded. we use freedom unites. i used the 9mm and 50 BMG.
@@NashBen i like having to do hard math... makes it harder and i get more reasons to stand at the parts bin for 1 hour looking for a bolt with some unknown thread.
Both Chicago and New York, at one time (in the '70s) had similar units on 40' semi trailers the intakes were 16" hard suction. Both had a crane to handle sections of hard suction. In Seattle, the fireboats can supply 20,000 gpm to shore based units. These are handy little rigs where water supply is an issue.
I love your creativity. Thinking outside the box is what I love to do did it with my water tenders. I am in California retired fireman contract to the Ford service and Calfire. It’s exciting to see someone who created this and yourselves something happen to get the water you need. Great job.
This would be a great piece of apparatus in my rural county. We are covered in some parts of the county by hydrants, but a lot is still rural. Outstanding.
Same a my county. There's a couple of decent sized towns/cities in my county but the rest is either farm land or wooded areas. Matter of fact, I'm from Ohio and am very surprised I didn't even know something like this existed.
I've never heard of or seen a hydrant truck before, it's very interesting. I love how small and easily maneuverable it is. I love seeing how it operates.
@@HJZ75driver no because there's no such thing as a hydrant truck. It's a pump truck, engine or tanker. Whom ever told them it is a hydrant truck to begin with is an idiot
Actually here in germany we have pretty similar vehicles. They usually carry a portable pump that can be carried by 4 people and can be used to take water from a river, lake, pool and anything that has water in it. We call it "open water source". This gets usually used when the normal hydrant system is not enough or the fire is at a location where is a bad or no hydrant system available. Those portable pumps can be used as a booster pump too if the water needs to be pumped over longer distances. The process of setting up those portable pumps is basicly the same like we see here, just that the pump is not mounted on a vehicle. (And the pumps use the same kind of coupling like we see at 6:55) On this video you can see two of those portable pumps getting used to pump water on a large fire in Ludwigshafen. ua-cam.com/video/4fjMxVgcy14/v-deo.html And later on the same video you can see a crane from the fire department that has a water gun at the top and that gets its water from another portable pump. Our trucks usually have the same equipment like a engine, just minus the water tank. They are smaller and more compact and mostly used for smaller volunteer fire departments. But they get more and more rare because there is a new version that has a small water tank in it what is better for small fires as well as the first steps after arriving on scene.
never even heard of a hydrant truck until now, very interesting :), closest we have to them in the UK i think, is a portable high volume pump thats carted around on the back of a truck then lowered into place
@@southaussiegarbo2054 Squad 581. Draft 581. The truck is made to draft, it is not a water source. It is a nice idea and there are a few of them around. You don't lose an Engine drafting and it is always good to have an extra vehicle in the station house.
@@riff2072 fyi a hydrant isnt a water source Its something that is often connected to pipes that are connected to a water souce E.g. you know in middle of road (well not center but still in road) theres little metal covers(if you dont know u can contact me directly and d i will show pictures) well those are etiher a shutoff valve or a hydrant point(the fire dept carry a hydrant they plug into it on the truck) The hydrant is just the fixed(or portable) item that the hose they connect to the pumper is connected to.
Interesting truck and great video. We used a smaller system a few years back for a commercial application in the UK where the recirculation hose fed a rotating nozzle inside a round strainer. The recirculation water jet washed the strainer out from the inside to help keep the strainer clear of debris. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
By far the best video so far. This is something very unique but very necessary for areas with limited hydrant systems. I was in South Texas for years and committing a pumper to draft out of irrigation canals committed a truck that could have been used for suppression. Great concept!
Thank you for teaching everyone about the technology that the fire fighting industry has! I have learned something new, it will be nice when they build a fire truck that Carrie’s everything. So you only have the tanker truck, & 2 firetrucks
What a cool truck, you wanna learn water conservation. Talk to a well trained county guy. I learned pretty quick from my county department how to draft from ponds, water shuttling, and much more. My volly Dept. Was located in a small town with hydrants, but 90 percent of our fires where in the county, with absolutely no hydrants. This truck would of been pretty cool to have here.
All of my firefighting training was courtesy of the US Navy. Interesting how many things are different. I understand that a 3" hose is generally used to feed a manifold. Onboard ship, a 3" hose gets a nozzle and a hose team, generally 1 on the nozzle, at least 4 behind the nozzleman, and 1 on the valve. 3" hoses are the standard size. Anything smaller is probably part of specialty equipment, such as a foam station. If I was on DC Central watch inport and saw my firemain DROP to 110 PSI, I would have the rover out looking for the reason. At 100 PSI I would have the fire teams mustered and start roving fire/flooding patrols. At 90 PSI the entire duty section would be mustered and patrolling their own work areas. Normal firemain pressure on my ship ran 120-140 PSI, hence the number of guys on the hose. At that pressure on a 3" hose, one man just isn't gonna get the job done. As far as why we were so particular about the pressure, It's partly a low pressure issue, and partly a potential flooding issue...that water is going somewhere. When you have at least one, possibly two 3500 GPM fire pumps feeding the firemain, a major drop in pressure is either a mechanical issue with the pump, or you have a LOT of water being put on the people side of the hull. Fresh water is precious onboard a ship, as you need to either bring it with you or distill it from seawater. The firemain is used for just about everything that doesn't require potable water...flushing toilets, cleaning the hull and decks, backup cooling for equipment, etc. The ONLY place that you would find 50 PSI on the firemain system would be downstream of a reducing station feeding flushing water to urinals and toilets. I was on a replenishment ship, which re-supplied other ships at sea with fuel, munitions, food, and general supplies. A full load for us was about 5 million gallons of DFM (Marine diesel fuel, about 2.5 million gallons of JP-5 (Jet/turbine fuel) and 600 tons of munitions. We took our firefighting rather seriously, and there really isn't any such thing as too much water on a fire...as long as you are pumping a like amount back overboard. In WWII, there were several recorded instances of the crew getting the fire out, but almost sinking the ship with the firefighting water...
Even cities with a water system this is a great idea for a back up system as you can never have to much water and the city I worked for had many houses and building fairly off the beaten path next to a large river that were very hard to get large trucks into. And this certainly beats drop tanks maybe not completely but filling tankers with this would be much faster.
In upstate New York we call them source trucks or source pumpers, Normal a 1 ton 4 wheel truck with a front mount pump around 1000 gpm with 800' to 1200' of 5" supply hose and 30' to 45' of suction. We use a 5" gated wye and set up to fill 1 tanker at a time while connecting the second truck with 1 - 25' hose and 1 - 100' we average a flow rate at fires of 500 gpm normaly. There is a course the New York fire services teaches for rural water supply on this set up, as the company I worked had been using it for 35 years before the State put in the courses. Very well tought out truck for what they are using it for.
Where I live in the Buffalo NY area we don’t have hydrant trucks just Pumpers, Heavy Rescues, Ladder Trucks, and light rescues with tankers in rural country areas of the region.
I think this is an amazing unit even if you have hydrants in town but we cover a lot of area with no hydrants and we have to Cary heavy portable pumps to the supply,
I parked in a box store parking lot after seeing a large apartment building wooden frame fire years ago (road was blocked anyway). I think the last ladder truck arrived nearly one hour after the fire started during Friday afternoon rush. I was impressed by the ladder truck shower system that spayed water from the top of the ladder in a circular pattern around the truck as well as the nozzle spraying the fire itself. They must have pulled all the available resources on that fire, lots of activities. They must have had six ladder trucks spraying that tall frame trying to douse the sky high flames. I heard that the fire started from a large tipped over propane tank.
I've seen similar concept trucks called pond trucks. They had 1000 GPM front mount pumps on a four-wheel-drive chassis and carried about 200- 300 gallons of water in the back as well as hose! They had one mission which was to get to water. They could be towed out later if needed!
Nice and simple concept, but oh so valuable in remote areas. Most similar thing we have here in the Netherlands is a submergable pump that can transport 5000liters (about 1300 gallons) up to 3km (about 2 miles) away. The big problem is the time it takes to set up, which is why tanker trucks are very usefull.
I am from Germany. I was surprised that you do not have that many trucks that can supply water direktly from a river or lake. In Germany every normal fire truck has the abbility to get water out of a inexhaustible water source. Every truck has therefor special suck hoses on board. However I see now that it does not make too much sense in a bigger city. Thanks for that insight.
Most engines and ladders in the USA can draft too. It just this is very specific and does not tie up those trucks at a water source but allows them to stay fighting fires
nice. if I was specing a new one, though, I'd try to get the hard suction the other way around so you don't have to turn it around it to hook it up, though. or put female threads on the strainer and male on the inlet, so the suction could hook up backwards.
In my part of the world, most tankers can do this self contained so if they run out of water on the ground, the truck can go to a water source and draft without the need for a dedicated appliance
Very informative episode! Just one question, why do they store the hose that sits between the pomp and the filter facing the opposite direction so they have to flip each time they need the hose? Would it not make more sense to store the hose, so you can pull it straight out and the orientation is already facing the correct direction meaning that once you're holding the end of the hose, you can directly connect it to the pump. I know we're talking about maybe a 5-10 second optimization, but still. In a fire, every second counts!
@@jordanmathis719 Use different manufacturer water hoses e.g. storz-coupling. With them it is equal wo/men side to use. Interesting that they use storz-coupling between both fire apparatus.
@@jordanmathis719 These hose couplers are similar in a way to, as a familiar example for a lot of people, RV waste hoses. (Different coupler, same concept), and yeah, the male end is distinctly smaller than the female end. I always wind up having to flip my hoses around when I pull them out to dump my trailer. It's not really a huge deal.
@@tailgatecarpenter26 I think Plotsky81 brought up a good point, namely dirt that can get threads clean. But if they made the inner dimensions of the 4 boxes a little bit bigger, the handles could fit and to prevent dirt/debris to could use a lit which hinges at the top that covers the back like many cabinets at the sides...
Thank you, very important information, impressive (HYDRANT) pumper Rig. All none water Distribution street normal water service should really truly invest in one of these ( HYDRANT) Rigs everytime they look to upgrade too there (Tender) Tanker fleet. I have always thought of a FD design into a District stand by storage ( 5 to 10 thousand gallons) with a Hydrant on front lower side. Make your own elevation Tank. This Hydrant Rig really replaces those ideas that thought of. MAN the Fire Engine manufacturing companies should really truly look into building these for every Remote FD to buy.
Shout out to Wichita FD! Off topic, my dad was a part of the mobile air unit innovation process in the early 80's. He retired Deputy Chief. I'm a Bat Chief now at 46. I'm good with what I have achieved 😁
@@HeroesNextDoor Wichita has a great city. But we are midwest and our streets are wide in a literal grid pattern. Tillers Unfortunately proved unneeded.
Great job on specs for YOUR truck ! If it works for your area, dept, let it roll ! Great idea ,3,000 fill up in 2 and half minutes? Sounds good to me !
We always laid a supply line to bypass the pump on the the Quints ,because in pump gear the Ariel Laddar would go to slow mode, or creek mode, we sill had plenty of water…
The problem we face in America is our taxes represent our local fire departments, so a low income area really doesn't get all the bells and whistles a city truck and department would. On some exceptions where federal grant monies are provides such as a dual support district where (wildfire) happens excess grant monies go to wildland and recovery vehicles up to helicopters to advance the availability of resources. Pretty sad tbh because a majority of small towns and wildfire districts are on a volunteer (no pay) basis
@@13eckerlosmuerte same over here, for smaller towns we have trailers that can perform the job of the hydrant truck Regarding the volunteers, it's even more that is unpaid over in Germany
@@Markus-zb5zd I have a firm belief your men have far better training than ours for the most part. United States is weird, we half ass everything civil
We rely on tankers and porta tanks. Our policy is to never draft surface water. There is applications where it would be convenient though. Mind you our region is roughly 15mi square and within that block or within a few miles of it we have 5 wells
Very interesting!! Fuel tank size for the hydrant piece? Average time until it runs out of fuel during full throttle operations? Are there dry hydrants the hydrant piece hooks up to during cold weather?
They showed the ice-auger for cold weather, and from other things I've seen, actual runtime is irrelevant with the addition of fuel tender trucks going around keeping all the engines fed.
Who makes the hydrant truck? Is it a Pierce or some other manufacturer??? The department I retired from,was a rural volunteer department that retired on tanker/ tenders & drop tanks ; I taught them how to relay pump from a tanker, or drop tank to an engine. The hydrant truck should be a viable option for smaller departments that don't have good working hydrants! I also helped teach a drafting/ fire hydraulics class,I would think using a " hydrant truck" would ŕequire at least a basic fire hydraulics class & the lessons from a drafting class could also be used on a " hydrant truck". I did notice,or didn't see you backfill the suction line to the floating strainer??? How much vacuum are you pulling on the strainer? Other wise this was a great & informative video & you might consider using it to train other departments & new personnel!
NAS PENSACOLA FIRE DEPT.1978-2005...We transitioned to 5 inch to effectively put a large capacity line above ground ,DRAFT capability was available as water surrounds base...nice FIX it truck...
I think along with a lot of other people have never heard of a hydrant truck in the areas that I was a VFF and there wasn't a water supply we used water tenders and I guess if you're near an area that has a lot of pools lakes ponds hydrant truck seems to work well. Unfortunately in the areas that I have been in they would have been absolutely useless nor have I heard of a hydrant truck I thought most fire departments used water tenders of all different sizes now I know better 😂 not everybody has the same units across the board Wildland units are set up differently all across the board as well you might have similar tools but for the most part most apparatuses unless you're in the same department are set up a lot more differently than I could imagine. This is an awesome truck it seems to get the job done. I'm sure like every situation they have snags every now and then with it.
Where was the unit built and of course the price tag,
Not sure but we can ask for you
CSI emergency vehicles, same place that built our tankers.
It was the truck cost, about 25k, plus about $30,000 for the pump, and about 30k for labor and building, so in 2002, the truck was about 85k total. So in todays world, you could probably build one for around 150k and you would probably need an F450 or larger, this f450 is about maxed out, so if we wanted a bigger pump we’d need a f550.
My dad is a employee for csi in grayling Michigan and I remember when we would service that truck and when we built it
Reading the comments I think many people missed the part where they said the town doesn’t have a municipal water system. In this case a hydrant truck makes too much since. It’s cheaper and faster to establish a water supply and you are not having to dedicate a pumper at every fire scene to draft. I like the thinking behind this truck. Very similar in using retired fire trucks as blocker vehicles for highway response so the brand new million+ rig is not destroyed.
You nailed it. Thanks for commenting
My state just spent 24million on a total of 18 new fire engines
Including a new roro truck
@@southaussiegarbo2054 cool story bro
You do realize that fire engines have that capability without that bs? I used to be a volunteer firefighter in a small town. Literally all we had to do was throw a strainer on the end of a hose, throw the hose in the pond and hook the other end to the truck and bam
@@jamesTBurke is that just the newer trucks? Is the ladder truck in this video not have the pump capacity and that why they needed the hydrant truck? Im curious now that you said that
San Francisco was saved by the Fire Boat Phoenix during the Loma Prieta Earth quake. The quake destroyed all the water mains in the marina district and the fire boat pumped water from the bay into a portable hydrant system that fed engines and other equipment all night long. Now SFFD has 3 fire boats.
As a retired Asst Chief, really think this WHOLE PAGE is amazing showing different fire houses, love the concept of asking questions like John Q Public May ask
Also this is a great outside the box thinking you have a “hydrant” with out a hydrant and with out having to tie up an engine to draft when you really need it for suppression
Thank you brother
Keep up the great videos
And be safe out there
Its funny u start all ur response with was a chief not sure what that means look at Texas seem all chiefs are not that great 😄
Over here in the European Alps, it is almost standard equipment for fire departments to have man-portable pumps and drafting equipment on board a smaller truck, pickup or trailer. Very useful for when you have rivers, creeks and lakes all over the place and insufficient hydrant coverage outside towns.
Setting up the pump and drafting water is the core discipline of our junior firefighter training, so by the time they join active duty, they know it well.
They can also be used to relay water over long distances up mountain roads by having them in a chain line.
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Here's an excellent presentation by an Austrian department at a competition.
Thanks for watching and posting. Is this your first time watching the channel?
@@HeroesNextDoor Hi, I have seen some of your station cribs episodes.
This will pump WAY more than man portable pumps. But then we have 5" line pretty much standard.
Same here in northern (and pretty much all of) Germany. Just a little pump that has enough power for 3 hoses.
Look at the medic pulling hose like a pro! Great video as always Mike.
Lots of places have firefighter/medics...
@@ffjsb true and you might get a kick out of this (Clifton Fire Department 2nd Alarm Fully Involved Attached Garage Fire Coppola Ct 2-10-18).
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4 years ago
After a fire is completely put out, buildings affected by smoke should be ventilated with fresh air to reduce odors. This may be a slow process depending on how much of the building was affected by smoke. If smoke damage was substantial, carpeting and other porous building materials can continue to off-gas residual smoke chemicals for some time. Buildings damaged by fire and smoke will also likely have significant damage from water used to extinguish the fire. In most cases, efforts to clean and repair these buildings should be performed by professional fire restoration companies.
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David I focus on the BIG PICTURE, not just One of the symptoms. That fire was creating NEW toxic gasses and New destructive heat. Before, BEFORE, they could have gotten inside, that fire could have and should have been stopped. It could Not be stopped from the inside! Should they bring a line inside to search and put out any fire that is getting in? Sure, BUT, they could not control the fire in the garage from the inside. If they eliminated That First, there would be No extension inside.
My comments are Not to try to Educate you or change your mind. My comments are for the impressionable people who could be mislead by Yours.
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What like this "JB91710 9 months ago
You want to call a Spade a Spade Fat Boy? There's no way you could have been ANYTHING but a Fountain Statue. Guys your size can ONLY talk it. There sure as hell was No Way you could have Walked it." you can apologize and end the issue that you created or continue and get you ass embarrassed over and over again. You see there is no escaping the truth as you are finding our I am worse than a pit bull when I demand an apology I will continue to press for it until I get what I am entitled to. as far as educating me get stuffed here is a comment from another youtuber about me
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Damn David, I think you blew up JB's brain. He really needs to go away. I think you have forgotten more then he will ever know about firefighting.
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I'll tell you what, you post every comment you mad to me that led up to my comment and Then I'll apologize.
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4 years ago
Why none of the comments I made although insulting in response to your denigrating pejorative comments never crossed the line into violation of your legally protected rights. So I am not the one who is liable for a civil rights lawsuit. I am giving you an out to end this and you are refusing to take it and I have done so many times. I have also had to delete my account to stop a cyber attack on my computer from another source. You on the other hand decided to delete the comment in a sorry attempt to destroy the evidence so tampering with evidence is a federal crime. You take your choice discretion Oh unwise one remember the reason I am able to post that comment is a screen shot of the comment you made. Did I get nasty yes, did I violate your civil rights no.
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JB91710
4 years ago
David Here's the deal, "I apologize for Anything I said to you that hurt your feelings." Now, with that said, in the nine years I have been responding to unsolicited responses to my comments on UA-cam, I have NEVER found it necessary to Personally attack anyone to get their attention and put them in their place. You, are the Only one.
I happen to be a very nice and respectful person to people who Deserve respect but You stepped way over the line in your unrelenting and unsolicited Personal attacks to my fire fighting comments, Prior to my outburst to you. No I don't expect You to step up to the plate and apologize to me nor do I care because I am a Big Boy and names will never hurt me, but this comment is the Last I will respond to from you. As I said, I apologize for Anything I have ever said to hurt your feelings or disrespect you as a person!
The End!
That's.... Not uncommon.... At all.... My home town of Broken Arrow, OK, all firefighters are trained medics, some are also certified paramedics. They even have gear in the ambulances to assist with firefighting efforts including SCBA gear/tanks. Granted our EMS is run by the fire dept, but even surrounding towns that contract EMS services like Bixby and Tulsa have trained medic firefighters. It just makes logical sense from a first response aspect when you start thinking about it.
@@OkieOtaku I think you mean EMT's, with some trained to Paramedic level. A medic is a paramedic, unless you're using military terminology.
I was a professional firefighter for 10 years. We had a very good water system. People don't appreciate the problems of not having a good water supply.
The US Navy does. Standard for us was 120-140 PSI on the firemain, with one (or possibly 2) 3500 GPM firepumps online. Standard hose size was 3", so obviously one man wasn't going to grab a hose and go...there would be an entire team assigned to a hose. When you are in the middle of the ocean, you either put out the fire or hit the lifeboats...There are no other options.
There is a decided advantage to floating in an entire ocean of firefighting water. Unique to shipboard firefighting is the requirement that you ALSO have to pump the water back overboard. Sounds basic, but when you have the ability to pump about 12,500 GPM with all pumps online (3X3500 GPM electric, 1X2000 GPM steam), it's actually not that hard to end up with a major flooding issue as well.
@@kevincrosby1760yea the whole idea of having to deal with the run off changes that dynamic for sure!. Thank you for your service. And for the record I hated 3" Iines unless they went to a ground monitor lol.
@@thepitpatrol Most don't realize it, but Basic Firefighting is part of Navy Boot Camp. You don't get out of Boot Camp without having sprayed water on a fire.
In addition, the first thing a ship generally does with a new sailor is send them to firefighting school, this time in a full trainer where you can play in 300F temps and just enough visibility to find the fire.
They also trained us on how to tackle a 3" live hose that got away from the hose team. Not something that I would want to do in real life.
@@kevincrosby1760 hey listen Kevin. We had a distinct advantage. If we "saved the foundation" we didn't ever hear an call to abandon ship. Most people don't realize all the hats a military guy wears.
@@thepitpatrol Exactly. Firefighting was not my actual job. I was an Interior Communications Electrician...call it a cross between the phone repairman, a low-voltage electrician, and an electronics repair tech.
In port I stood the DC Central watch...Firemain monitoring, alarm monitoring, etc. If there was fire or flooding, I would have had overall coordination of the response. If the engineering roving patrol reported anything unusual, I was expected to know what to do or who to call to resolve it.
Nothing really unique about that particular watch...half of Engineering could have taken it, and most of those were officially qualified to do so. The general expectation was that anybody in Engineering could look at a given piece of major equipment and know what it was, why it needed to be there, and and how it worked at a basic level.
EVERYBODY in Engineering knew how to start the TAS, and that the dry stuff goes on before the foamy stuff... If that failed there was the "oh shit" button, which gave you 3 minutes to run really fast before the boiler room and/or engine room had enough Halon dumped to displace most of the air in the space.
This is a GREAT page! You present different approaches to meet challenges and solve problems.
The hydrant truck seems like a great apparatus, effectively providing useful service.
- focused mission
- tactical and nimble
- fast deployment
- cost effective
- perfect role for reserve fire fighter
I was surprised it was not equipped with:
Dump tank
Floating pump
Scene lights
I watched a house fire, three alarm. I watched in amazement how the firefighters moved around. Very well orchestrated. I spoke to a firefighter after and he said that everyone has a job to do. You train as your fighting fires as well.
Well done firefighters 🚒
Something similar also exists in Germany and is called the Hytrans Fire System (HFS). The system consists of a pump module, a basic container with a hose tank and equipment compartments, and a hose mounting device. The pump module consists of a hydraulic unit driven by a diesel engine, which drives the floating pump via appropriate hoses. The flow rate in bilge mode is about 8,000 l/min at 2.5 bar and in pressure mode about 3,000 l/min at 10 bar. This depends on the delivery head and the length of the line. The F line can be laid up to a speed of 40 km/h. The six-cylinder diesel engine, which is housed in the removable pump module and drives the hydraulic pump, has 200 hp. The hydraulic lines are connected to a floating pump via 60 m long lines.
freedom units? get me my 150-300 psi?
@@Master-ls2op Only three countries in the world cling to the imperial stystem: Myanmar, Liberia and the US of A. Great company.
@@murraystewartj thank you :) the joke is i am from the god be dam mother land of freedom USA. we will force you to use the USD for ya freedom of you will be invaded. we use freedom unites. i used the 9mm and 50 BMG.
@@Master-ls2op more like isolation units if you look at the countries left using them. 😄
@@NashBen i like having to do hard math... makes it harder and i get more reasons to stand at the parts bin for 1 hour looking for a bolt with some unknown thread.
Both Chicago and New York, at one time (in the '70s) had similar units on 40' semi trailers the intakes were 16" hard suction. Both had a crane to handle sections of hard suction. In Seattle, the fireboats can supply 20,000 gpm to shore based units.
These are handy little rigs where water supply is an issue.
Nice to see young Fire fighters , longevity , years of service ahead
Reassurance to the community as well.
I love your creativity. Thinking outside the box is what I love to do did it with my water tenders. I am in California retired fireman contract to the Ford service and Calfire. It’s exciting to see someone who created this and yourselves something happen to get the water you need. Great job.
This would be a great piece of apparatus in my rural county. We are covered in some parts of the county by hydrants, but a lot is still rural. Outstanding.
Same a my county. There's a couple of decent sized towns/cities in my county but the rest is either farm land or wooded areas. Matter of fact, I'm from Ohio and am very surprised I didn't even know something like this existed.
I've never heard of or seen a hydrant truck before, it's very interesting. I love how small and easily maneuverable it is. I love seeing how it operates.
That's because it's a pump truck
@@jamesTBurke Thats exactly what he said
@@HJZ75driver no because there's no such thing as a hydrant truck. It's a pump truck, engine or tanker. Whom ever told them it is a hydrant truck to begin with is an idiot
basically a pump truck, the same difference between a Truck and a Ladder
Actually here in germany we have pretty similar vehicles. They usually carry a portable pump that can be carried by 4 people and can be used to take water from a river, lake, pool and anything that has water in it. We call it "open water source". This gets usually used when the normal hydrant system is not enough or the fire is at a location where is a bad or no hydrant system available.
Those portable pumps can be used as a booster pump too if the water needs to be pumped over longer distances.
The process of setting up those portable pumps is basicly the same like we see here, just that the pump is not mounted on a vehicle. (And the pumps use the same kind of coupling like we see at 6:55)
On this video you can see two of those portable pumps getting used to pump water on a large fire in Ludwigshafen.
ua-cam.com/video/4fjMxVgcy14/v-deo.html
And later on the same video you can see a crane from the fire department that has a water gun at the top and that gets its water from another portable pump.
Our trucks usually have the same equipment like a engine, just minus the water tank. They are smaller and more compact and mostly used for smaller volunteer fire departments. But they get more and more rare because there is a new version that has a small water tank in it what is better for small fires as well as the first steps after arriving on scene.
The idea of the hydrant truck is very impressive. It frees a full pumper from the duty. I did many a pond draft with a pumper.
never even heard of a hydrant truck until now, very interesting :), closest we have to them in the UK i think, is a portable high volume pump thats carted around on the back of a truck then lowered into place
in germany we use a GW-L its a truck that carries one portable pump + equipment and can load another portable pump + 2000m of hoses in rolling carts
Thats because no one calls it a 'hydrant truck' but those guys.
@@riff2072 what else is it then
@@southaussiegarbo2054 Squad 581. Draft 581. The truck is made to draft, it is not a water source. It is a nice idea and there are a few of them around. You don't lose an Engine drafting and it is always good to have an extra vehicle in the station house.
@@riff2072 fyi a hydrant isnt a water source
Its something that is often connected to pipes that are connected to a water souce
E.g. you know in middle of road (well not center but still in road) theres little metal covers(if you dont know u can contact me directly and d i will show pictures) well those are etiher a shutoff valve or a hydrant point(the fire dept carry a hydrant they plug into it on the truck)
The hydrant is just the fixed(or portable) item that the hose they connect to the pumper is connected to.
Interesting truck and great video. We used a smaller system a few years back for a commercial application in the UK where the recirculation hose fed a rotating nozzle inside a round strainer. The recirculation water jet washed the strainer out from the inside to help keep the strainer clear of debris.
Keep up the good work and stay safe.
What a great idea, backflow to blow out strainer
By far the best video so far. This is something very unique but very necessary for areas with limited hydrant systems. I was in South Texas for years and committing a pumper to draft out of irrigation canals committed a truck that could have been used for suppression. Great concept!
First time I every heard of a "Hydrant Truck". Very informative. Thanks a million
Thank you for teaching everyone about the technology that the fire fighting industry has! I have learned something new, it will be nice when they build a fire truck that Carrie’s everything. So you only have the tanker truck, & 2 firetrucks
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What a cool truck, you wanna learn water conservation. Talk to a well trained county guy. I learned pretty quick from my county department how to draft from ponds, water shuttling, and much more. My volly Dept. Was located in a small town with hydrants, but 90 percent of our fires where in the county, with absolutely no hydrants. This truck would of been pretty cool to have here.
What a beautiful fire station my goodness !!!
Literally just a dry tender! Supper cool!
All of my firefighting training was courtesy of the US Navy. Interesting how many things are different.
I understand that a 3" hose is generally used to feed a manifold. Onboard ship, a 3" hose gets a nozzle and a hose team, generally 1 on the nozzle, at least 4 behind the nozzleman, and 1 on the valve. 3" hoses are the standard size. Anything smaller is probably part of specialty equipment, such as a foam station.
If I was on DC Central watch inport and saw my firemain DROP to 110 PSI, I would have the rover out looking for the reason. At 100 PSI I would have the fire teams mustered and start roving fire/flooding patrols. At 90 PSI the entire duty section would be mustered and patrolling their own work areas.
Normal firemain pressure on my ship ran 120-140 PSI, hence the number of guys on the hose. At that pressure on a 3" hose, one man just isn't gonna get the job done. As far as why we were so particular about the pressure, It's partly a low pressure issue, and partly a potential flooding issue...that water is going somewhere. When you have at least one, possibly two 3500 GPM fire pumps feeding the firemain, a major drop in pressure is either a mechanical issue with the pump, or you have a LOT of water being put on the people side of the hull.
Fresh water is precious onboard a ship, as you need to either bring it with you or distill it from seawater. The firemain is used for just about everything that doesn't require potable water...flushing toilets, cleaning the hull and decks, backup cooling for equipment, etc. The ONLY place that you would find 50 PSI on the firemain system would be downstream of a reducing station feeding flushing water to urinals and toilets.
I was on a replenishment ship, which re-supplied other ships at sea with fuel, munitions, food, and general supplies. A full load for us was about 5 million gallons of DFM (Marine diesel fuel, about 2.5 million gallons of JP-5 (Jet/turbine fuel) and 600 tons of munitions. We took our firefighting rather seriously, and there really isn't any such thing as too much water on a fire...as long as you are pumping a like amount back overboard. In WWII, there were several recorded instances of the crew getting the fire out, but almost sinking the ship with the firefighting water...
Even cities with a water system this is a great idea for a back up system as you can never have to much water and the city I worked for had many houses and building fairly off the beaten path next to a large river that were very hard to get large trucks into. And this certainly beats drop tanks maybe not completely but filling tankers with this would be much faster.
Now this is a great rig to have in rural use .
Excellent video,nice truck. It’s obvious the concept went right over a lot of these viewers heads.They simply don’t understand rural water movement.
Amazing hydrant fire truck tour. Thanks Heroes Next Doors 🚒
Our pleasure!
Very interesting never seen a hydrant truck before nice to learn something new. Great Videos Keep up the great work.
In upstate New York we call them source trucks or source pumpers, Normal a 1 ton 4 wheel truck with a front mount pump around 1000 gpm with 800' to 1200' of 5" supply hose and 30' to 45' of suction. We use a 5" gated wye and set up to fill 1 tanker at a time while connecting the second truck with 1 - 25' hose and 1 - 100' we average a flow rate at fires of 500 gpm normaly. There is a course the New York fire services teaches for rural water supply on this set up, as the company I worked had been using it for 35 years before the State put in the courses.
Very well tought out truck for what they are using it for.
Awesome truck thanks for sharing!
You bet
Very cool, not sure if I’ve ever even seen anything like this before but obviously quite necessary in rural areas
incredible video, love getting to see the apparatus in use
Where I live in the Buffalo NY area we don’t have hydrant trucks just Pumpers, Heavy Rescues, Ladder Trucks, and light rescues with tankers in rural country areas of the region.
👍👍👍👍👍theses guys got their act together, nice operation with hydrant truck gets the job done!
Thanks for the compliment Joe! I’m proud of our guys! Chief Besson
Excellent educational video for those not familiar with the fire service .
Kinda like the big fills we have in service with the CFA in Victoria. Can be real handy
I think this is an amazing unit even if you have hydrants in town but we cover a lot of area with no hydrants and we have to Cary heavy portable pumps to the supply,
That is an impressive apparatus and as depicted extremely valuable. Great Video
I parked in a box store parking lot after seeing a large apartment building wooden frame fire years ago (road was blocked anyway). I think the last ladder truck arrived nearly one hour after the fire started during Friday afternoon rush. I was impressed by the ladder truck shower system that spayed water from the top of the ladder in a circular pattern around the truck as well as the nozzle spraying the fire itself. They must have pulled all the available resources on that fire, lots of activities. They must have had six ladder trucks spraying that tall frame trying to douse the sky high flames. I heard that the fire started from a large tipped over propane tank.
Very cool! Like seeing equipment in service. Keep up the great work.
Wow this was so much fun to watch! Thanks again Mike.
I've seen similar concept trucks called pond trucks. They had 1000 GPM front mount pumps on a four-wheel-drive chassis and carried about 200- 300 gallons of water in the back as well as hose! They had one mission which was to get to water. They could be towed out later if needed!
Flow control is awesome feature. This is a 1st for me, never seen one in oregon. Really great video instructions
Nice and simple concept, but oh so valuable in remote areas.
Most similar thing we have here in the Netherlands is a submergable pump that can transport 5000liters (about 1300 gallons) up to 3km (about 2 miles) away.
The big problem is the time it takes to set up, which is why tanker trucks are very usefull.
Great show today, like seeing equipment in service, keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the awesome video again Mike from rsa
A very interesting piece of equipment for their situation. Do they carry an extinguisher on that unit?
I think so. But not sure
Good work from Norway 🇸🇯🇸🇯
I am from Germany. I was surprised that you do not have that many trucks that can supply water direktly from a river or lake. In Germany every normal fire truck has the abbility to get water out of a inexhaustible water source. Every truck has therefor special suck hoses on board. However I see now that it does not make too much sense in a bigger city. Thanks for that insight.
Most engines and ladders in the USA can draft too. It just this is very specific and does not tie up those trucks at a water source but allows them to stay fighting fires
Impressive I my learned something today it's amazing the technology we have today enjoyed the video God Bless
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video definitely a unique truck
Here in the UK most water tender.water tender ladders carrier a portable pump for getting extra water or used has a open or closed water pumps 👍🇬🇧
nice. if I was specing a new one, though, I'd try to get the hard suction the other way around so you don't have to turn it around it to hook it up, though. or put female threads on the strainer and male on the inlet, so the suction could hook up backwards.
In my part of the world, most tankers can do this self contained so if they run out of water on the ground, the truck can go to a water source and draft without the need for a dedicated appliance
Very informative episode!
Just one question, why do they store the hose that sits between the pomp and the filter facing the opposite direction so they have to flip each time they need the hose?
Would it not make more sense to store the hose, so you can pull it straight out and the orientation is already facing the correct direction meaning that once you're holding the end of the hose, you can directly connect it to the pump.
I know we're talking about maybe a 5-10 second optimization, but still. In a fire, every second counts!
There's a good chance that the handles on the hard suction hose will not fit in the box or there's a chance of them getting stuck if they do.
It helps keep dirt and debris out of the threads
@@jordanmathis719 Use different manufacturer water hoses e.g. storz-coupling. With them it is equal wo/men side to use. Interesting that they use storz-coupling between both fire apparatus.
@@jordanmathis719 These hose couplers are similar in a way to, as a familiar example for a lot of people, RV waste hoses. (Different coupler, same concept), and yeah, the male end is distinctly smaller than the female end. I always wind up having to flip my hoses around when I pull them out to dump my trailer. It's not really a huge deal.
@@tailgatecarpenter26 I think Plotsky81 brought up a good point, namely dirt that can get threads clean. But if they made the inner dimensions of the 4 boxes a little bit bigger, the handles could fit and to prevent dirt/debris to could use a lit which hinges at the top that covers the back like many cabinets at the sides...
love seeing the michigan departments, you guy will have to stop by rochester
Never heard of a hydrant truck until now but looked cool. Thank you for sharing. Very interesting.
Thanks for watching
Great video I’ve heard of a Hydrant. Truck but never seen one before very interesting piece of apparatus
THANK YOU BROTHER MIKE !🇺🇲
thats really cool unit, thanks for the vid
Glad you like it!
That was a pretty unique truck.
That 7.3 though
Thank you, very important information, impressive (HYDRANT) pumper Rig. All none water Distribution street normal water service should really truly invest in one of these ( HYDRANT) Rigs everytime they look to upgrade too there (Tender) Tanker fleet. I have always thought of a FD design into a District stand by storage ( 5 to 10 thousand gallons) with a Hydrant on front lower side.
Make your own elevation Tank. This Hydrant Rig really replaces those ideas that thought of. MAN the Fire Engine manufacturing companies should really truly look into building these for every Remote FD to buy.
BEEN WAITING THANKS!!
Thanks for watching
Shout out to Wichita FD! Off topic, my dad was a part of the mobile air unit innovation process in the early 80's. He retired Deputy Chief. I'm a Bat Chief now at 46. I'm good with what I have achieved 😁
We hope to have a tiller on here too
@@HeroesNextDoor Wichita has a great city. But we are midwest and our streets are wide in a literal grid pattern. Tillers Unfortunately proved unneeded.
Never heard of a hydrant truck or seen one . Find it very interesting . Thanks for that .
Great job on specs for YOUR truck ! If it works for your area, dept, let it roll !
Great idea ,3,000 fill up in 2 and half minutes? Sounds good to me !
It seems unbelievable to fill up a 3000 gallon pool in 2 1/2 minutes
Hi,
What map source are you using at 0:04?
Internet
We always laid a supply line to bypass the pump on the the Quints ,because in pump gear the Ariel Laddar would go to slow mode, or creek mode, we sill had plenty of water…
weird thing ^^
over here in germany every normal fire engine is equipped with all the neccesary equipment to do that job
The problem we face in America is our taxes represent our local fire departments, so a low income area really doesn't get all the bells and whistles a city truck and department would. On some exceptions where federal grant monies are provides such as a dual support district where (wildfire) happens excess grant monies go to wildland and recovery vehicles up to helicopters to advance the availability of resources. Pretty sad tbh because a majority of small towns and wildfire districts are on a volunteer (no pay) basis
@@13eckerlosmuerte same over here, for smaller towns we have trailers that can perform the job of the hydrant truck
Regarding the volunteers, it's even more that is unpaid over in Germany
@@Markus-zb5zd I have a firm belief your men have far better training than ours for the most part. United States is weird, we half ass everything civil
One question. Could the suction hose not use stortzs connections?
8:18 what exactly happens when the pump is being primed?
It's usually an air vacuum pump of some sort.
Great video!
Thank you for watching. This was a truly interesting truck.
THAT IS AWSOME ! "GOTTA LOVE MICHIGAN" !
That is freakin' cool as hell!
Mike doing work, who'd a thought🤣🤣. Good stuff Mike
what we use for our SPAAMFAA club, is rented 8" diesel trash pump(s), adapted to 5" storz
We rely on tankers and porta tanks. Our policy is to never draft surface water. There is applications where it would be convenient though. Mind you our region is roughly 15mi square and within that block or within a few miles of it we have 5 wells
Lil truckie for such a big city
Hey Mike what type of cat engine model is it?
IIoveyourvids!!!
Very Kool video, I know how to draft..pump a engine, that is a very impressive apparatus..I am very impressed with the FFs in this video.
AWESOME
You should come down and do a Hero's next door in Hory County!!
We just need invites
That's really Cool
That's an interesting unit.
Great video!!!!!! Extremely cool piece of equipment 👍🏽
Very interesting!! Fuel tank size for the hydrant piece? Average time until it runs out of fuel during full throttle operations? Are there dry hydrants the hydrant piece hooks up to during cold weather?
They showed the ice-auger for cold weather, and from other things I've seen, actual runtime is irrelevant with the addition of fuel tender trucks going around keeping all the engines fed.
You should come and do a house tour of niverville fire dept station 1 in niverville ny
Send us that invite to make that happen
Who makes the hydrant truck? Is it a Pierce or some other manufacturer??? The department I retired from,was a rural volunteer department that retired on tanker/ tenders & drop tanks ; I taught them how to relay pump from a tanker, or drop tank to an engine. The hydrant truck should be a viable option for smaller departments that don't have good working hydrants! I also helped teach a drafting/ fire hydraulics class,I would think using a " hydrant truck" would ŕequire at least a basic fire hydraulics class & the lessons from a drafting class could also be used on a " hydrant truck". I did notice,or didn't see you backfill the suction line to the floating strainer??? How much vacuum are you pulling on the strainer? Other wise this was a great & informative video & you might consider using it to train other departments & new personnel!
Great Video
Great info. Thank you
Need more video of the Fire Lab in the crew cab.
I’m curious how you wound up in the tiny station in Leelanau county? This is my backyard!
We got invited.
Good job
NAS PENSACOLA FIRE DEPT.1978-2005...We transitioned to 5 inch to effectively put a large capacity line above ground ,DRAFT capability was available as water surrounds base...nice FIX it truck...
I think along with a lot of other people have never heard of a hydrant truck in the areas that I was a VFF and there wasn't a water supply we used water tenders and I guess if you're near an area that has a lot of pools lakes ponds hydrant truck seems to work well.
Unfortunately in the areas that I have been in they would have been absolutely useless nor have I heard of a hydrant truck I thought most fire departments used water tenders of all different sizes now I know better 😂 not everybody has the same units across the board Wildland units are set up differently all across the board as well you might have similar tools but for the most part most apparatuses unless you're in the same department are set up a lot more differently than I could imagine.
This is an awesome truck it seems to get the job done. I'm sure like every situation they have snags every now and then with it.