Hot take: AEW and its fanbase's biggest issue preventing growth is their absolute refusal to take any criticism as anything other than disingenuous. Is there disingenuous criticism? Yes, but it is vastly overstated to cloak themselves from the reality that the vast majority of the criticism is fair, genuine, or just regular people's harsh feelings about the product. That IS NOT disingenuous. Just because something may seem harsh to you does NOT mean it's disingenuous. At their own peril, they consistently dismiss harsh but fair criticism as fake. That mentality will prevent them from growing, and their loudest fans and content creators are only harming them by reinforcing that mentality.
after seeing them interact in WarGames, I kinda wanna see Tiff VS Iyo. Tiff can cash in and take the belt from Liv, then you get Tiff, Iyo and Rhea feuding into 2025
AEW has lost half of its audience over the last two years. The in ring work is good. Here's the truth that the sickos do not want to hear. In ring work isn't very important. Wrestling is an ongoing soap opera that needs cliffhangers to draw people in. AEW has lost its audience because Tony doesn't care about those things. If somebody wants to call that a "disingenuous take" then your not helping AEW.
There's a reason why I love Pro Wrestling but can't stand MMA, Olympic Wrestling or Boxing. Sure, those sports are *real* and have tremendously talented fighters, but idgaf, Pro wrestling is infinitely more entertaining to me because of the stories and spectacle. If the stories are not there, it's no surprise the audience is leaving. If someone really wants to watch a good fight with no story, just watch MMA or boxing at that point...
In ring work is important and I need it to be good to keep me hooked. But it’s only half the equation to what makes a good wrestling show, maybe even less than half. AEW is missing basically everything else, they just try hard to be edgy and alternative
It’s not just wrestling it’s any show requires a reason for you to want to watch the next episode. There is no consistent reason for anyone to watch Dynamite.
Exactly. I haven't watched a TV match without fast forwarding in over a decade. I usually just watch the segments and PPV matches. We all know its not real so there needs to be a reason for me to watch a match. I couldn't care less about well choreographed gymnastics.
As an AEW casual, they’re not bad they’re mid and that’s worse. Every match is a 4 star with 0 stars for story, desensitizing us to great matches. I pop for technical WWE bouts cuz it’s not the norm l, and I pop for old WCW cuz it’s hilariously bad. Being just ok is a death knell
Since moving to the Brisbane Entertainment Centre, the show is looking to sell out the venue. Its capacity is 13500 people. So that's good. I reckon they woulda sold out a stadium in Sydney though.
I’ve been saying since WM 40 that Solo was clearly going to fulfill his destiny. Enforcer, tribal heir, and now the best tribal chief yet, SOLO I LOVE YOU🙏🏾💯🔥
Also I will say to my grave, the only wrestler AEW booked correctly was Jade! She was a big, ripped monster who didn’t need to be bumping for Leyla Hursh! 😂😂😂
I wouldn't say that Tony Khan is the only issue with AEW, but this also the super fans who just accept everything he does as golden. Until the "sickos" start asking for more out of the product, these issues will continue. I watched every single episode until this year, because it became more of a chore to watch than something enjoyable
Since Statlander considered Stokley a business partner, I see her no longer benefiting from Stokley. Stat hates Wilow, but now that she's done with that business, she can get the TBS title back. All of this is a theory because it is implied. While I got the explanation, it was thin & needed more depth because it was also jarring.
I'm in the minority, but I like what AEW has been doing, except for a few. I don't need a long term story like the bloodline or hangman's story. You can put some wrestlers in the ring and they can have a great match just by telling a story in the ring. I've never been a big fan of long term story telling.
Jey is boring now because he's just a catchphrase. And I get that he does the whole catchphrase shtick to kind of show how glad he is to be out of Roman's orbit, but at the end of the day he's still a completely uncompelling character with a catchphrase. He's basically LA Knight. Which, I guess Knight's shtick works for some people too, but I find both him and Jey boring.
I can see that. I just think he’s in a stagnant period right now tho until things develop further then hopefully they get back to some character development storytelling stuff with jey
Low attendance and ratings means it’s bad! Anybody finding good in AEW must have never eaten good food! It’s like if you have only eaten Ramen, then Ramen is a great meal!
Hot take: AEW and its fanbase's biggest issue preventing growth is their absolute refusal to take any criticism as anything other than disingenuous. Is there disingenuous criticism? Yes, but it is vastly overstated to cloak themselves from the reality that the vast majority of the criticism is fair, genuine, or just regular people's harsh feelings about the product. That IS NOT disingenuous. Just because something may seem harsh to you does NOT mean it's disingenuous. At their own peril, they consistently dismiss harsh but fair criticism as fake. That mentality will prevent them from growing, and their loudest fans and content creators are only harming them by reinforcing that mentality.
after seeing them interact in WarGames, I kinda wanna see Tiff VS Iyo. Tiff can cash in and take the belt from Liv, then you get Tiff, Iyo and Rhea feuding into 2025
Great show, couldn't agree more with some of these takes
I’ll never forget Andrade needing 15 mins to beat Matt Sydall in his debut!
Ricochet vs Will was over rushed to no results! Might as well release Ricochet now because that match was the Main Reason for him signing!
Love how you almost no-sold the cat entirely. :D
I dunno, hid did corpse a few times.
Dynamite already hit 329k! Getting close!
AEW has lost half of its audience over the last two years. The in ring work is good. Here's the truth that the sickos do not want to hear. In ring work isn't very important. Wrestling is an ongoing soap opera that needs cliffhangers to draw people in. AEW has lost its audience because Tony doesn't care about those things. If somebody wants to call that a "disingenuous take" then your not helping AEW.
There's a reason why I love Pro Wrestling but can't stand MMA, Olympic Wrestling or Boxing. Sure, those sports are *real* and have tremendously talented fighters, but idgaf, Pro wrestling is infinitely more entertaining to me because of the stories and spectacle. If the stories are not there, it's no surprise the audience is leaving. If someone really wants to watch a good fight with no story, just watch MMA or boxing at that point...
The in ring work is very overrated imo. They're allergic to proper ring psychology and especially selling and restraint.
In ring work is important and I need it to be good to keep me hooked. But it’s only half the equation to what makes a good wrestling show, maybe even less than half. AEW is missing basically everything else, they just try hard to be edgy and alternative
It’s not just wrestling it’s any show requires a reason for you to want to watch the next episode. There is no consistent reason for anyone to watch Dynamite.
Exactly. I haven't watched a TV match without fast forwarding in over a decade. I usually just watch the segments and PPV matches. We all know its not real so there needs to be a reason for me to watch a match. I couldn't care less about well choreographed gymnastics.
Solo does treat his bloodline with more respect 🙏I Love You Solo!
As an AEW casual, they’re not bad they’re mid and that’s worse. Every match is a 4 star with 0 stars for story, desensitizing us to great matches. I pop for technical WWE bouts cuz it’s not the norm l, and I pop for old WCW cuz it’s hilariously bad. Being just ok is a death knell
Since moving to the Brisbane Entertainment Centre, the show is looking to sell out the venue. Its capacity is 13500 people. So that's good. I reckon they woulda sold out a stadium in Sydney though.
I think it's clear HHH doesn't care about good guy vs good guy since Rhea fought Becky Lynch at this year's Mania
Rhea was a heel at the time.
Rhea was a heel at the time
I’ve been saying since WM 40 that Solo was clearly going to fulfill his destiny. Enforcer, tribal heir, and now the best tribal chief yet, SOLO I LOVE YOU🙏🏾💯🔥
Heel Finn has been amazing. YEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
What has he actually done tho
@kinnikuboneman been a menace YYYEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
He just loses YEEEEEAAAAH
Also I will say to my grave, the only wrestler AEW booked correctly was Jade! She was a big, ripped monster who didn’t need to be bumping for Leyla Hursh! 😂😂😂
I wouldn't say that Tony Khan is the only issue with AEW, but this also the super fans who just accept everything he does as golden. Until the "sickos" start asking for more out of the product, these issues will continue. I watched every single episode until this year, because it became more of a chore to watch than something enjoyable
Rhea vs Iyo at wrestlemania: "I love Double Double E"
Rhea vs Liv at wrestlemania: "I hate Double Double E"
Liv has always felt like a transitional champion
Yeah lol but she's been champion for 6 months now...wow amazing
When she been champ for 6 months that ain't no transitional champion .....charlottle and sasha banks where both transitional champions in 2016.....
Hot take: the bloodline story should end with either jey or Jimmy becoming tribal chief.
Since Statlander considered Stokley a business partner, I see her no longer benefiting from Stokley. Stat hates Wilow, but now that she's done with that business, she can get the TBS title back. All of this is a theory because it is implied. While I got the explanation, it was thin & needed more depth because it was also jarring.
Solo may not be a better faction leader but he DEFINITELY knows how to dress better than Roman.
I like Solo, I think he does a good job. Hated Roman.
Any appearance by a Kitty gets a like from me. 😸
The new SAG rules force Max to publish their viewership numbers, no?
IYO winning the rumble trust.
Liv has been coming out to silence since Raquel came along , you can’t justify taking that until Mania
Tbh I downplayed the before mania Rock stuff so mid might not have been the best word🤷🏾♂️ it just got stale fast for me
You’re not alone, I’ve seen that sentiment elsewhere :)
Rhea vs Iyo needs to at WrestleMania against someone she's had better chemistry with in the ring.
Hot take is the WyattSicks were doomed to fail since the beginning, a touching tribute for sure but theyre not gonna go far, so much talent wasted 😔
So in your opinion, they should never lose a match??? Bray lost plenty!
I'm in the minority, but I like what AEW has been doing, except for a few. I don't need a long term story like the bloodline or hangman's story. You can put some wrestlers in the ring and they can have a great match just by telling a story in the ring. I've never been a big fan of long term story telling.
Jey is boring now because he's just a catchphrase. And I get that he does the whole catchphrase shtick to kind of show how glad he is to be out of Roman's orbit, but at the end of the day he's still a completely uncompelling character with a catchphrase. He's basically LA Knight. Which, I guess Knight's shtick works for some people too, but I find both him and Jey boring.
I can see that. I just think he’s in a stagnant period right now tho until things develop further then hopefully they get back to some character development storytelling stuff with jey
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great solo take, aew is good jericho is that bad he brings it all down with him lol
Low attendance and ratings means it’s bad! Anybody finding good in AEW must have never eaten good food! It’s like if you have only eaten Ramen, then Ramen is a great meal!
Ramen is good tho
@ yeah but a steak or salmon is better! 😂
These two idiots hate Roman
Steve literally has the Roman title
Solo’s the REAL tribal chief, butthole!
It’s the Solo title now! “I LOVE YOU SOLO!”
If Roman wasn't inferior to Solo they wouldn't
Hot take: WWE’s faces while may sell tickets are actually incredibly boring example: Cody Rhodes, Seth Rollins..
Lmao
So they're engaging enough to sell tickets, but not actually engaging? This is not even a hot take, it's a nonsense one.
@@J_Tevo I think what he’s saying is wwe is the draw, the actual wrestlers don’t matter.
@@Cenzo1130it's still a pretty bad take
@@J_TevoHot Take: Contradictions aren't real
I get you gotta make money with sponsors but for us that pay for no ads having to listen to ads kinda sucks!
They try to make a buck. Cant be mad, there is timestaps and a sip forward button
Who cares
@@kinnikubonemanPeople who like to complain
@@kurreof3014 I literally said I get you gotta make money
@ I do I pay multiple ways not to have adds
At least WCW2000 have big stars and some home, AEW have no stars and no hope
What big stars? Hogan?
most absurd comment ever
Thats the extreme exemple, the one guy that alone is bigger than the entire AEW