Another really fun way to utilize Briar's Malice, or my favorite way anyways, is pretty much the same thing you're doing but with a few differences. I run Lingering Blackvenom so my crits spread poison. The cool thing is if you throw a crit jav, the crit cleaves through the hoard, poising everything around the trajectory path that gets hit. OR, still running LB, you bring the Deepwood Staff instead. The primary fire of the Deepwood Staff is 5 thorns thrown out. If you ult, stack two crits, you can actually send out 10 crit projectiles, each crit thorn capable of proccing Hunter on its own. Super OP and a lot of fun to paint hoards with poison.
Wow I did not know that! I need do some research on the jav poisoning everyone it cleaves through. I love SOTT because there is so much you can get working together, Cheers!
@@prich0382 A group of poisoned enemies will die faster than a group of regular enemies. It's not the 3 points of DoT, it's the faster kills you provide to your entire team, as poisoned enemies take 12% more damage. Being able to cleave through a hoard with a crit jav, delivering poison to a surrounded ally so they can fight their way out, or poisoning an entire frontline allowing your GK to get kills faster is where the value is... but if you're focusing on the 3 damage, rather than a blanket of 12% increase to damage taken you're missing the forest for the trees.
Well, I tried this build and now I got a job, got promoted the same day, I’m fucking like a rabbit but most of all, I am melting anything in Legendary mode. Thank you dude, very cool!
Saw your video about DT and then this. Two great videos with an authentic unscripted style. Looks like a fun off-meta build! Definitely going to try it. Subbed!
You've earned a sub, this build is very solid and while not how i like to play sister (i like the staff and pure support/control) i've seen similar used to great effect on Cata. Definitely will be looking out for more content if this quality will be the norm. Tanglegrasp Thicket however amazing and i will not tolerate any disrespect (take it out on shitty elf players who spam that shit in corridors) its saved more than a few runs making room and peeling shit off people (and ledged more than a few Monk packs). Its also nice to split the trash from the elites with it, makes fighting them easier when theres no risk of pinkies poking you through a CW or SV. Blackvenom is great too, but both are valid imo. Ironbark however can get fucked.
Thanks mate! I agree the hedge can be used very effectively for control purposes and in the right hands can be invaluable. Also it's hilarious fun to constantly ledge mobs with it. As you said monks are a pertinent case study for sure. I have never understood Ironbark's use case. Perhaps it was intended to be paired with Incandescence so you fire off 3 hedges and completely lock down an area of the map? In practice though completely superseded in effectiveness by Tanglegrasp. Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it!
@@kryptkick441 The idea is just area denial and blocking off angles of approach, and ive seen it used well in modded difficulties like C3DWONS when everyones in comms, but thats about it. Tangle just outperforms it 99% of the time in quickplay.
Still like the shoving hedge to save downed teammates, force enemies to funnel down one side of a hallway for a javelin multikill, and to block a gunner stream when I'm caught out in the open.
I see where you are coming from with that build. Looks fun to play. I would suggest on the trinket to get 30% stam regen. Combine with 30% bloc cost on necklace, it's essential at cataclysm IMO. For cata you may also want to add two stam on your weapon, on legend it's not necessary IMO. I don't get hit much often so i feel confident with no curse resist at legend but it's just me. The sad thing is that it will not get you a girlfriend ... 😂
why don'0t use the lingering black venom? with crits you apply venom to everyone near the target, it's a combo, but i understand. And tanglegrasp sometimes saves you because push everyone and make non armor big guys on the ground, it trip them to get killed on the floor. But very nice build, i like it!
Lingering Black Venom is good for sure but Briar's Malice is a key talent for this build. Tanglegrasp is also good but as it affects player movement it's not as easy to spam
If you are a good person you would just hand them the potion. I know shocker, you can press the right mouse button to hand someone an item. 9 times out of 10 they can do more with it than you can. Then you can run decanter on the off chance you have to purple/blue potion clutch.
Although i consider sott rework unfair and watching this was like rubbing salt on a wound, this video was fun and enjoyable to watch, keep up the good content
Hey so I just started the game. I'm having trouble deciding which to go with in terms of attributes. Why do people go power vs chaos instead of power vs armored. I only have 30 hours in the game.
Basically the main reason for the traits is to hit various ranged break points. For instance a Blightstormer is an unarmored special and its faction is Chaos. Adding 10% into Chaos might allow your ranged weapon to 1 shot body shot them while 10% into armoured would not. Most builds try to select weapon properties that maximize special killing as a priority. This is why you rarely see builds with properties such as power vs berserkers or power vs monsters.
Chaos is the faction, all "chaos" units will get 10% more damage. Combine with let's say "armoured" you gonna get 10% on chaos unit + another 10% on armoured chaos unit (20% total). You can have the same properti for skaven units but I think you cannot get both faction on the same item. Correct me guys if Im wrong with that but Im 99% sure. Chaos include Beastmen.
Another thing is Power vs Chaos applies to a lot more units though, the chaos plus the beastmen faction. Whereas the Power vs Skavens only apply to rats.
I don't know English very well, could you write how to play this character with these items what do you have? If I understand correctly (I throw a javelin if the opponent is far away, if there are a lot of monsters I hit with 2 swords? do I hit the javelin too? When to throw F roots? Regards
A lot of unnecessary and difficult upkeep when it comes to doing any difficulty above cata. Twitch cata moves far too quickly and requires much of your ranged to be focused on vastly increased specials, maintaining hunter like this not only leaves you viable to get caught off guard but wastes your ult on generally pointless scenarios. A much more damage consistent build using Atharti's delight + sword/dag and barrage on deepwood staff allows you to still hit those damage margins much more easily with the added bleed and much better armor damage and Elf classes get enough crits anyway to maintain swift slaying. While fun, I think a lot of what's in this build is obsolete on much faster paced difficulty
You don't need Enchanced Power for any breakpoints for Javeling wtf. All you need is 10/10 Skaven/Armor on Jav and on Charm. Like there are excel sheets with all precise breakpoints.
Why use Enhanced Power instead of Smiter? Wouldn't that significantly lessen melee DPS? Is there a ranged breakpoint you're attempting to reach with EP?
Smiter is severely overrated. When you look at what it actually does it's kind of shit. It's basically only useful on slow 1 shot weapons like the Executioner's Sword/Pickaxe/Coghammer. It only affects the first enemy hit in the swing and only on the first hit on that enemy. Every hit after the first hit receives no bonuses vs having no talent at all. Mainstay is a lot better for every other weapon if Assassin isn't available. EP affects all levels of stagger as well as ranged.
im new to this game but isnt it a really big plothole that you only have 3 javelins....? like what happens when u run out and the next ammo bag is too far.
@@kryptkick441 HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE HAVE INFINITE JAVALINS YOURE RIGHT, man I have 150 hours on this game and I've been waiting for the next ammo box every time I finished throwing my third javelin 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 what a game changer I love you.
@@SELFISH.DEATHWISH holding R at ammo boxes thinking it's strange that you don't press e like all of the other weapons and that it revils one by one instead of all at once like all of the other weapons.
I've played elf for 150+ hours in a row and can say that archer elf is stronger than sott comparing to damage if you want to go with spears. These two crits from ult are just not enough in a long fight, while archer ult under double arrow passive kills much more enemies with more damage.
So you have a Javelin that 1 hit body shots all specials and even the armored rats seem to go down null sweat. It applies a 25% debuff on the enemy causing them to take more dmg. But... they are already dead tho, right? The only survivors would be Chaos Warriors and Monsters. So it feels like a lot of overkill. With the guaranteed crits you should not need to take any crit% and can take more dmg vs something(or stacking crit power... i mean... thats a hated stat for everyone normally right? but comeon... you know you want to tho right?). In theory only ofc. Also Shallyas gift + you passive, how can you resist? :P
The buff from Hunter applies to all enemies (of an armour class) for 10 seconds not just the enemy you hit with the crit. So seeing you have 2 guaranteed crits that's reliably 10-20 seconds of hunter each hit of your ult. Pair that with 30 second cool down on ult and your potential downtime is only 10 seconds, the rest of the time you running an insane debuff!
you talk about it being broken but u still have the legend chaos wastes badge for kerillian but other than that the build is pretty broken but still not the best, but thats me pushing each career to their absolute limits.
Hunter is a ranged weapon trait that gives you 25% damage buff for a short time if you land a crit. It is very useful though because you can proc it via ranged and then it applies to melee also
It worked! I´ve got a girl friend! Thank you so much KryptKick! Now I can whack her instead of rats or the other thing....!
Ahahah I told you bro I used to be a single recruit player now I am married and work for Fatshark
Bro LMAO please make more build videos. Your honest roasts about gear properties etc, are hilarious and also very informational. Great build video!
ahhaha thank you sir
Another really fun way to utilize Briar's Malice, or my favorite way anyways, is pretty much the same thing you're doing but with a few differences. I run Lingering Blackvenom so my crits spread poison. The cool thing is if you throw a crit jav, the crit cleaves through the hoard, poising everything around the trajectory path that gets hit. OR, still running LB, you bring the Deepwood Staff instead. The primary fire of the Deepwood Staff is 5 thorns thrown out. If you ult, stack two crits, you can actually send out 10 crit projectiles, each crit thorn capable of proccing Hunter on its own. Super OP and a lot of fun to paint hoards with poison.
Wow I did not know that! I need do some research on the jav poisoning everyone it cleaves through. I love SOTT because there is so much you can get working together, Cheers!
Poison literally does 3 damage over it's full duration dude
@@prich0382 A group of poisoned enemies will die faster than a group of regular enemies. It's not the 3 points of DoT, it's the faster kills you provide to your entire team, as poisoned enemies take 12% more damage. Being able to cleave through a hoard with a crit jav, delivering poison to a surrounded ally so they can fight their way out, or poisoning an entire frontline allowing your GK to get kills faster is where the value is... but if you're focusing on the 3 damage, rather than a blanket of 12% increase to damage taken you're missing the forest for the trees.
@@SmGTwist very interested in your build, mind sharing it? sounds awesome 🙏
yes please i need that build
Well, I tried this build and now I got a job, got promoted the same day, I’m fucking like a rabbit but most of all, I am melting anything in Legendary mode.
Thank you dude, very cool!
Saw your video about DT and then this. Two great videos with an authentic unscripted style. Looks like a fun off-meta build! Definitely going to try it. Subbed!
Thank you, I really appreciate this comment as it what I am trying to do with this channel cheers!
I'm hesitant to try this build because I'm married and my wife probably wouldn't like me getting a girlfriend
Your wife will be totally fine with you now having multiple women. This is the power of this build
Well explained build guide. Subbed. Hope to see more videos in the future.
Thank you, I appreciate it
@@kryptkick441 day 33 playing on this build, still no gf, you got some explaining to do
@@suslikgunta4235 Impossible!
You've earned a sub, this build is very solid and while not how i like to play sister (i like the staff and pure support/control) i've seen similar used to great effect on Cata.
Definitely will be looking out for more content if this quality will be the norm.
Tanglegrasp Thicket however amazing and i will not tolerate any disrespect (take it out on shitty elf players who spam that shit in corridors) its saved more than a few runs making room and peeling shit off people (and ledged more than a few Monk packs). Its also nice to split the trash from the elites with it, makes fighting them easier when theres no risk of pinkies poking you through a CW or SV. Blackvenom is great too, but both are valid imo. Ironbark however can get fucked.
Thanks mate! I agree the hedge can be used very effectively for control purposes and in the right hands can be invaluable. Also it's hilarious fun to constantly ledge mobs with it. As you said monks are a pertinent case study for sure. I have never understood Ironbark's use case. Perhaps it was intended to be paired with Incandescence so you fire off 3 hedges and completely lock down an area of the map? In practice though completely superseded in effectiveness by Tanglegrasp. Thanks for the feedback I appreciate it!
@@kryptkick441 The idea is just area denial and blocking off angles of approach, and ive seen it used well in modded difficulties like C3DWONS when everyones in comms, but thats about it. Tangle just outperforms it 99% of the time in quickplay.
6:52 made me spit my drink out.
"This'll get you a GF" just turned me bisexual upon hearing those holy words uttered
Still like the shoving hedge to save downed teammates, force enemies to funnel down one side of a hallway for a javelin multikill, and to block a gunner stream when I'm caught out in the open.
The hedge can be useful!
I’ve been playing it for the past 3 days, it’s fire 🔥
Awesome
thank u for having the same sense of humor as me
Lol you’re welcome
I see where you are coming from with that build. Looks fun to play. I would suggest on the trinket to get 30% stam regen. Combine with 30% bloc cost on necklace, it's essential at cataclysm IMO. For cata you may also want to add two stam on your weapon, on legend it's not necessary IMO. I don't get hit much often so i feel confident with no curse resist at legend but it's just me. The sad thing is that it will not get you a girlfriend ... 😂
Aaha running no curse resistance on Legend def increases chance of a gf
why don'0t use the lingering black venom? with crits you apply venom to everyone near the target, it's a combo, but i understand.
And tanglegrasp sometimes saves you because push everyone and make non armor big guys on the ground, it trip them to get killed on the floor.
But very nice build, i like it!
Lingering Black Venom is good for sure but Briar's Malice is a key talent for this build. Tanglegrasp is also good but as it affects player movement it's not as easy to spam
It's a shame they just nerfed jav, I'm wondering how the build stacks now because of that. Fartshark just can't let us have fun
If you are a good person you would just hand them the potion. I know shocker, you can press the right mouse button to hand someone an item. 9 times out of 10 they can do more with it than you can. Then you can run decanter on the off chance you have to purple/blue potion clutch.
What outfit do you have that is white?
It’s from a Chaos Wastes achievement
Although i consider sott rework unfair and watching this was like rubbing salt on a wound, this video was fun and enjoyable to watch, keep up the good content
Thank you
Why is power vs armored and skaven essential? Is it that much better then pure crit?
Hey so I just started the game. I'm having trouble deciding which to go with in terms of attributes. Why do people go power vs chaos instead of power vs armored. I only have 30 hours in the game.
Basically the main reason for the traits is to hit various ranged break points. For instance a Blightstormer is an unarmored special and its faction is Chaos. Adding 10% into Chaos might allow your ranged weapon to 1 shot body shot them while 10% into armoured would not. Most builds try to select weapon properties that maximize special killing as a priority. This is why you rarely see builds with properties such as power vs berserkers or power vs monsters.
Chaos is the faction, all "chaos" units will get 10% more damage. Combine with let's say "armoured" you gonna get 10% on chaos unit + another 10% on armoured chaos unit (20% total). You can have the same properti for skaven units but I think you cannot get both faction on the same item. Correct me guys if Im wrong with that but Im 99% sure. Chaos include Beastmen.
Another thing is Power vs Chaos applies to a lot more units though, the chaos plus the beastmen faction. Whereas the Power vs Skavens only apply to rats.
im running this build thanks so much! do you have any ideas why my base hp is just 130 instead of hp? im not sure what's happening. im lvl 35++
Thanks man! You must not have the 20% health on the necklace ;)
@@kryptkick441 oh i see thank you!
hi. where can i buy that weapon illusion at dual swords ? thank you for this video!
I am not sure tbh probably just from the guy at the Keep
You get it once you get red dual swords drop from a chest
@@IXFlipyap thanks :)
I don't know English very well, could you write how to play this character with these items what do you have? If I understand correctly (I throw a javelin if the opponent is far away, if there are a lot of monsters I hit with 2 swords? do I hit the javelin too? When to throw F roots? Regards
javelin is for killing specials and elites
I just started playing like 2 days ago, where can I get that beautiful skin??
It is a challenge you get from playing Chaos Wastes
could u put what your bots have on them in a link build?
Is there a specific reason for javelin or is Moonfire or staff viable?
A lot of unnecessary and difficult upkeep when it comes to doing any difficulty above cata. Twitch cata moves far too quickly and requires much of your ranged to be focused on vastly increased specials, maintaining hunter like this not only leaves you viable to get caught off guard but wastes your ult on generally pointless scenarios. A much more damage consistent build using Atharti's delight + sword/dag and barrage on deepwood staff allows you to still hit those damage margins much more easily with the added bleed and much better armor damage and Elf classes get enough crits anyway to maintain swift slaying. While fun, I think a lot of what's in this build is obsolete on much faster paced difficulty
Meme/modded difficulties don't count.
@@mrtxmrtx1025 They absolutely do, when you claim "Most OP built rn". The fact is that it isn't, it's horribly unoptimized and made by a moron.
You don't need Enchanced Power for any breakpoints for Javeling wtf. All you need is 10/10 Skaven/Armor on Jav and on Charm.
Like there are excel sheets with all precise breakpoints.
I didn't know about stacking crits, going to try this for sure xD
A crime it is not explained!
love the build, used it once instantly got a girlfriend
No way, the second talent on the bottom row is great, blocking the way is just skill issue
Why use Enhanced Power instead of Smiter? Wouldn't that significantly lessen melee DPS? Is there a ranged breakpoint you're attempting to reach with EP?
Yes it's for the ranged breakpoints. Melee as long as you have hunter proc'd and recursive toxin melee DPS is not an issue
Smiter is severely overrated. When you look at what it actually does it's kind of shit. It's basically only useful on slow 1 shot weapons like the Executioner's Sword/Pickaxe/Coghammer. It only affects the first enemy hit in the swing and only on the first hit on that enemy. Every hit after the first hit receives no bonuses vs having no talent at all. Mainstay is a lot better for every other weapon if Assassin isn't available. EP affects all levels of stagger as well as ranged.
what are your video settings your game looks great
how did you get the white costume?
Choas Wastes Achievement. If you go to the challenge book in the keep, you will find it under Choas Wastes
im new to this game but isnt it a really big plothole that you only have 3 javelins....? like what happens when u run out and the next ammo bag is too far.
You don't need to refill the jav at ammo boxes you just hold R and it reloads ;)
@@kryptkick441 HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE HAVE INFINITE JAVALINS YOURE RIGHT, man I have 150 hours on this game and I've been waiting for the next ammo box every time I finished throwing my third javelin 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 what a game changer I love you.
@@11--------- LOL now you can start spamming those javs into heads!
@@11--------- you can't even refill javelins in ammo boxes what the hell have you been doing all this time
@@SELFISH.DEATHWISH holding R at ammo boxes thinking it's strange that you don't press e like all of the other weapons and that it revils one by one instead of all at once like all of the other weapons.
I've played elf for 150+ hours in a row and can say that archer elf is stronger than sott comparing to damage if you want to go with spears. These two crits from ult are just not enough in a long fight, while archer ult under double arrow passive kills much more enemies with more damage.
So you have a Javelin that 1 hit body shots all specials and even the armored rats seem to go down null sweat. It applies a 25% debuff on the enemy causing them to take more dmg.
But... they are already dead tho, right? The only survivors would be Chaos Warriors and Monsters. So it feels like a lot of overkill.
With the guaranteed crits you should not need to take any crit% and can take more dmg vs something(or stacking crit power... i mean... thats a hated stat for everyone normally right? but comeon... you know you want to tho right?). In theory only ofc.
Also Shallyas gift + you passive, how can you resist? :P
The buff from Hunter applies to all enemies (of an armour class) for 10 seconds not just the enemy you hit with the crit. So seeing you have 2 guaranteed crits that's reliably 10-20 seconds of hunter each hit of your ult. Pair that with 30 second cool down on ult and your potential downtime is only 10 seconds, the rest of the time you running an insane debuff!
How i can stack Briar's Malice?
Just by using your ult. If you look in the bottom left you will see how many stacks you have
cataclysm 15 ='D
How did you get the white outfit???? I really want to pimp my sister of thorn like that
It's from completing Choas Wastes challenges. Check em out in the book in the keep
@@kryptkick441 thank you
I'm pretty sure blackvenom debuff didn't stack, only the damage over time. Did they patch this?
No it stacks 100%. You can test for yourself on the dumby
It was patched.
how to paint armor white
From doing challenges in the Choas Wastes
@@kryptkick441 thanks
I doubt this is the best but ok
It is 100% ask Fatshark
you talk about it being broken but u still have the legend chaos wastes badge for kerillian but other than that the build is pretty broken but still not the best, but thats me pushing each career to their absolute limits.
I'm fairly sure he was being facetious, and besides, the badge also wouldn't necessarily mean he was wrong :D
agreed
lol javelin. i like having my dignity intact.
what is Hunter?
Hunter is a ranged weapon trait that gives you 25% damage buff for a short time if you land a crit. It is very useful though because you can proc it via ranged and then it applies to melee also
@@kryptkick441 oh it's a ranged weapon trait I got it now