Symposia | Ep. 2: Apostasy is a Crime | Thomas Pink

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • The European Conservative presents its documentary series, "Symposia," which explores the crisis of our civilisation and what rebuilding that civilisation might look like. In the second episode, Sebastian Morello, our senior editor, meets up with Professor of Philosophy at King’s College, London, Thomas Pink, in the heart of the Chilterns in England’s Home Counties. In this episode, Sebastian explores with Prof. Pink many topics among which are freedom and agency, Hobbseian anthropology, and the Church-State relationship.
    An unfortunate temptation for intellectual conservatism is that of only ever reacting against those forces of so-called ‘progress’ which aim to repudiate the civilisation that conservatives cherish. The imperative is not only to defend our civilisation but offer a positive case for the humane and meaning-driven future we want to build. In this series, Sebastian meets great thinkers of the day and-as the name of the series suggests-sits down, with good wine and good food, to converse with them in pursuit of the truth, in the context of fellowship and camaraderie.
    0:00 Introduction
    2:05 Are We Free?
    1:01:54 Burying Thomas Hobbes
    1:29:54 Satan’s Principality
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 31

  • @danielhoven570
    @danielhoven570 10 днів тому +2

    Your point about “conservatism” today being used as a label for 18th century liberal ideology is spot on, and something I’ve been trying in vain to my fellow American conservatives.

  • @jacobticer1643
    @jacobticer1643 8 місяців тому +15

    These symposiums are the best thing on UA-cam. Keep it up Dr. Morello.

  • @jonathonwoolven2613
    @jonathonwoolven2613 8 місяців тому +10

    I have deep reservations about whether the power of necessity is the only power in Nature. If you've spent any time looking at the range of feathers on a bird or the chaotic order of how a tree grows, Nature looks more like a celebration or a dance than a mechanistic response.

    • @Divergent_Integral
      @Divergent_Integral 8 місяців тому

      Necessity in tandem with randomness (the latter component often overlooked) can and often does result in things that look quite spectacular to our human eyes. This perception of certain natural things being spectacular is to my mind purely subjective. One person's "dance" or "celebration" is another person's mere coincidence.

    • @mh4zd
      @mh4zd 8 місяців тому

      The reason why some of these things appear attractive (and attractive is the most operative word we should apply here, that inspire you to delightful notions of celebration) stem from shared taxonomical roots between you and the bird; not as directly as you might figure I mean, but being responsible for the converging EFFECT all the same.

  • @davidniedjaco9869
    @davidniedjaco9869 3 місяці тому +4

    Why the hell doesn't this channel have any more subs than it does and these videos have more views? Algorithm? A lot of ppl aren't aware of its existence? I don't know? Maybe pay for an ad or something? I for one absolutely love this channel and it's content!..this and vendée radio are two very highly underrated channels with wonderful and, more importantly, necessary content..LETS SPREAD THE WORD! Both about these channels, and about the truth of the faith..which these channels contribute immensely to..God bless Mary protect! +++

  • @ericchristen2623
    @ericchristen2623 5 місяців тому +2

    Are we free? Is a serious question? Any analysis of rulers and the ruled answers this elementary enquiry.

  • @aodhfinn
    @aodhfinn 7 місяців тому

    Edmund was a 'good ' Irish man too 😁🍀

  • @LaurenceBoyce
    @LaurenceBoyce 8 місяців тому +3

    Yes, but what about the shirts . . .

  • @papagabriola6494
    @papagabriola6494 8 місяців тому

    Just one thing here: Whatever happened to the questioning of assumption?

  • @glumbumble
    @glumbumble 6 місяців тому +1

    Islam is there for you.

  • @mh4zd
    @mh4zd 8 місяців тому

    The conservative belief and intuition that the loss of belief in free will is dangerous is based on a well-thought out understanding of civilization, and the carelessness with regards to the loss of belief in free will, coming from many of those who implicitly (and sometimes explicitly) work for the erosion of free will's scope, is often naive in equal measure.
    Unfortunately, free will is in fact a logical non-starter. We can, however, exert a will, pursuant insights, and do such things as punish criminals, without reference to free will. The assertion that we cannot (that moral force depends on the agency of the punished) is utter caprice, and, what's more, is actually a recent arrival to the human consciousness, owing to the grafting of empathy onto the causal axioms of morality (it began with the survival of the group as the goal, which one can argue ultimately benefits the empathetic aim, but empathy was not sequestered or much respected, nor was it for many millennia granted, in the codices, a place in morality, explicitly or implicitly, for outgroup humans, as it has become today). But we are not in as much danger from the loss of belief in free will as it may seem. For one, empathy for victims will forever check whatever empathy for perpetrators may come from seeing them as without agency.
    By losing belief in free will we gain clarity. Compassionate leftists are still capable of being what they are, as are the more long-term thinking rightists. But discussion gains clarity with the loss of indignance (indignance makes no sense without free will), and the prospect of authoritarian dystopias takes a hit from the loss of the receptor site within us that is the pursuit of moral acceptance (we still will have pragmatic reasons for BEHAVING certain ways, but the notion of abstract, or transcendent, moral goodness, is lost), which is what fuels group madness (as abstract moral goodness is more contortable than pragmatic motives), that in-turn fuels arrivals to the uncanny valley of historical horrors.

  • @michaelbraithwaite5875
    @michaelbraithwaite5875 8 місяців тому +6

    What a cruel and stupid idea that renouncing a belief system is a crime.

    • @papagabriola6494
      @papagabriola6494 8 місяців тому

      Wow! If I could give this comment a million thumbs up… Thanks for showing the way out of the word soup. Lol. I don’t think I can listen to their thoughts much longer. Just checked comments to see if I was alone in this.

    • @olivermccarthy7081
      @olivermccarthy7081 7 місяців тому +8

      @@papagabriola6494 It seems slightly odd to listen to an interview with a philosopher and then to leave a comment demonstrating only that you had no interest in what he had to say.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 місяців тому +2

      Indeed. How dare people not believe what they have been ordered to believe their whole life?

    • @aloyalcatholic5785
      @aloyalcatholic5785 4 місяці тому

      It's attitudes to like this that have led to the decline of Western civilization

    • @michaelbraithwaite5875
      @michaelbraithwaite5875 4 місяці тому +3

      @@aloyalcatholic5785 Criminalizing having the "wrong"belief (heresy) is the opposite of civilization. Billions of muslims believe that saying Jesus is the Son of God is heresy; billions of christians believe that saying Jesus is NOT the Son Of God is heresy. Which of them is going to Hell?