Canada has near 80 Leopard 2 tanks. 20 are battle ready. Canada has 4 Victoria class submarines. All are drydocked in need of repair. We have dated CF 18 Hornets from 1982. Its time to step up quit sending billions away to other countries when we cant even defend our own.
And then Mr. PP who keeps yammering on about cost overrides and too much spending will have to decide which programs that you benefit from, are going to have to be cut and this adds one more cost for him to think about. It'll be a hoot listening to all of you scream about how hard done by you are when he gets the 'cost-machete' out. I'm so looking forward to it.
And just to let you know,And there are already many,many and many all --- knowledgeable,all --- talented and all --- gifted American Senators that are already labeling,branding and calling our misguided/pure misguided Canadian/Royal Canadian highest - ranking federal government officials that are considered to be N.A.T.O. Naval and Military " free riders and outliers, " @A---SB
@@Maverick55555invest in healthcare and cut public servants, liberal/ndp new welfare spending and use those savings to bring up defense spending and start paying down the debt trudeau and singh racked up
Shameful. Utterly shameful. It's not even a commitment. It's a commitment to hopefully look at probably being able to possibly make it towards 2% at some point in the next 10 years. Embarrassment.
@@bob-p7x6j You are hitting on issues that plague the military as well. The living standards and quality of housing available to our soldiers is deplorable.
@@wilhelm4321Except Americans are tired of flipping the bill for our defense. They have the same issues we have. 2% is nothing compared to what they spend.
All our so called defense spending is literally to defend other countries. We get no benefit from it as we do not have the tax dollars from such a small population to defend such a monstrous border. If someone like trump or pootin wants to take over Canada, they could. And they will if this carries on. No amount of tax dollars that we can provide will change this.
@@seanhiggins2740 what is there in Canada that Russia would need to nuke? It’s our neighbours to the south that possess the targets and some of those they’ve placed on our border. Getting out of international organizations brings our sovereignty home. Hungary and Slovakia are in the process of redefining their relationship to NATO. Others will follow.
@@jeffhedrich3551 "what is there in Canada that Russia would need to nuke?" Need? As the Russians have over 5,000 nuclear weapons sitting around doing nothing as a sunken cost, I suppose they could make up an excuse to use a few on Canada and Trudeau's big mouth. "Getting out of international organizations brings our sovereignty home." Exactly! Especially when they are a proven failure like NATO is.
It's about time and long over do that Canada meets our commitment to NATO and prop up our own shrinking military. Our soldiers and Country both deserve it!
If the Liberals would forget about their Socialistic doctrine and put the money into our defense spending then our Canada will be better off. Maybe release the power and dollars of Canada's O& G sector and we will have more than enough $$ to equip our armed services. Maybe if the politicians had their family put in harms way, then maybe we would see some action.
Spend the money. Canada has been a major participant in every major commonwealth conflict. Canada was amongst the most capable militaries in both world wars. We need to be ready to show our strength as a strong and free nation and defend western values like our 4 fathers did so proudly. Spend the 2 percent and stop sending it to foreign countries we must be ready to defend ourselves and our allies. 2 years Conscription for every male 17 to 20. It has large social positives. In brings our mosaic together in a military brotherhood. Canada should have a really strong military.
Poillievre has consistently refused to commit to the 2 percent. He'll fund tax cuts with military spending cuts instead of increases. Need to get rid of Trudeau but Poilievre will not fix anything.
Lol Estonia's 3% is like $50m a year. It based on economy. So Canada's 1.5% that we spend is $25 billion. We're not talking chump change either. For our population, we spend more than many in nato in actual dollars.
Seven years ago, at the London NATO summit, Trudeau misinformed Trump about Canada's defence spending being 1.4% of GDP, which was our target for 2024-5, not our actual spending, which was 1.3% or less. And he isn't even going to match that projected estimate. You can't believe anything Trudeau says about spending. These differences look small, but when you are talking about 0.1% shares of GDP you are talking about billions of dollars.
Allow me to understand.. we have billions of dollars to dish out to Ukraine on their military, but we have to “find the money” to improve our own military. Make it make sense!
“We’ve still got a lot of work still to do” is like the Liberal Party motto. And it’s in quite literally in every sector of governance- military, healthcare, energy, agriculture, and so on.
Yeah, as a Canadian i am embarrassed, and have been for a very long time... there was a time we could stand tall, walk and talk with some authority, were respected and listened to on the world stage... not anymore and we don't deserve to be, smh... edit: I have high respect for our veterans but not our leadership, that is where the failure is
PM Drama Student will eventually "raise" defense spending to 2% of GDP. But he's going to do it by SHRINKING the size of the GDP in Canada, instead of increasing the number of dollars that Canada spends on it's CAF.
Mark Norman was a victim of Trudeau's mistake. He was wronged, but fortunately he won the case. After the settlement, he retired. The failed prosecution of Norman had cost the taxpayer $1.4 million.
It's sad that we have boat loads of cash to hand out to immigrants, to put them in hotels and give them everything they need but we can't take care of our own defense commitments. The world is in turmoil right now and we should be building our capabilities and our military strength to be able to defend our country and our allies should it be necessary.
So stop supporting those actually fighting a belligerent dictatorship and increase spending for a hypothetical, unidentified, supposed, future belligerent that is quite probably the very one the Ukraine is currently fighting? Makes sense to me. SMH
I think most Canadians would be happy to use tax payers money on defence . We currently have Mounties in skirts, CAF with tampons, police with rainbow cars. etc. I d like to see strong Canadians with guns.
I am sorry to hear that about your experience but I do thank you for your service to Canada. I only wish our governments supported you and your comrades as well as you have served our nation.
We have also lost a fighter training squadron in CFB Cold Lake recently and now train our depleted CAF pilots in Texas! How we have fallen under this regime, it almost fells that we are being disarmed on purpose.
yes canada ,needs to start making, its own weapons, not buying them ,from another country .thats for sure.. we need to make canada great again to .... cant let the ndp liberals .near any . canadain credit card at all ...they cut off.
Funny to listen to the Americans threaten no wartime assistance to underpaying NATO countries. Ukraine proved that doesn’t matter. What matters is who is the enemy and geography. We’ve already got the geography part covered.
Ukraine isn't a nato country. And the USA/European interest in Ukraine is self serving. There's zero excuses for Canada not funding our military. It looks even worse that we're a founding member and one of the most lax as of the last 7-8 years.
The Avril Arrow was not nor could it ever be turned into a fighter. It is waaaaayyyy too big to maneuver. It is 15 feet wider and 30 feet longer then the new F35's. It was a 1 trick pony - bee line in a straight line as fast as possible to intercept Russian bombers. The day the ICBM was invented (launch of Sputnik) was the day the Arrow was obsolete.
Step One: remove Bill Blair from all involvement with the Canadian government - regardless of whether it's public or private sector. He destroys everything he touches.
If we were to leave NATO then we wound not be able to defend our country spending 20% of our GDP on our national defence ... so just spending 2% of our GDP on our national defence is a real bargain.
Trump needs to tell NATO delinquent members that not only do they need to spend 2% this year but make up for the 2% that they have missing for decades or they will be kicked out of NATO.
Canada agreed to spend 2% of our GDP on National Defence in 2014 and reconfirmed our committment in 2021 to achieve that goal by 2024 ... so spend that 2% now not the 1.7% by 2029.
GFY - you want to pay - PAY - I for ONE do not want my tax $ going to the Worlds wealthiest WAR CRIMINAL and its corrupted biased Pro Israel Govt who pays BILLIONS to GENOCIDE! So GFY
We are a joke on the world stage.
We carried our weight 10 years ago, then Trudeau.
@@derek89273 Ah no, Canada has not kept up militarily for at least 4 decades and more than likely 6.
But we are on it. We weren’t under the previous regime.
@@brustar5152
We could deploy a battle group overseas before Justin, we can no longer effectively do that now.
Correct
Canada has near 80 Leopard 2 tanks. 20 are battle ready. Canada has 4 Victoria class submarines. All are drydocked in need of repair. We have dated CF 18 Hornets from 1982. Its time to step up quit sending billions away to other countries when we cant even defend our own.
Who is our own in a country of multiple nationalities that all don't like each other ?
We don’t even have close to that many Leo 2 tanks unfortunately maybe 25-30! And of those maybe 6-8 are actually operational.
The easy way out for this government is to call an election ASAP.
No
And then Mr. PP who keeps yammering on about cost overrides and too much spending will have to decide which programs that you benefit from, are going to have to be cut and this adds one more cost for him to think about. It'll be a hoot listening to all of you scream about how hard done by you are when he gets the 'cost-machete' out. I'm so looking forward to it.
@@ddhqj2023 What a load of conjecture and baseless assertions! ;D
@@wilhelm4321 Buckle up, Sally.
@@ddhqj2023 Name some programs.
Maybe Canada should be demoted from G7.
Then what would Freeland and other Liberals use in their talking points lol 😅
And just to let you know,And there are already many,many and many all --- knowledgeable,all --- talented and all --- gifted American Senators that are already labeling,branding and calling our misguided/pure misguided Canadian/Royal Canadian highest - ranking federal government officials that are considered to be N.A.T.O. Naval and Military " free riders and outliers, " @A---SB
YES. Canada should join the new, Fair and Honest trading organization! BRICS+ is the future of the world!
Why 5 out of 7 of the G7 members spend less than 2%.
Shameful can't defend our beautiful country Canada 😢spend on the Canadian military. Save Canada 🇨🇦 ❤
saving Canada from which threat?! Do you know how terrible the health sector is?!
@@Maverick55555invest in healthcare and cut public servants, liberal/ndp new welfare spending and use those savings to bring up defense spending and start paying down the debt trudeau and singh racked up
@@Maverick55555 - Most other NATO countries are meeting or will soon meet their commitments. Suck it up, cupcake.
Shameful. Utterly shameful. It's not even a commitment. It's a commitment to hopefully look at probably being able to possibly make it towards 2% at some point in the next 10 years. Embarrassment.
To spend all of that money just to outsource Canadian foreign policy to NATO?
@@seanhiggins2740 - Foreign policy comes to those who don't defend themselves.
5 out of 7 of the G7 members spend less than 2%.
Justin Weasel is running out of excuses.
Canadians are concerned and profoundly disappointed that Canada has no plans to reach 2% of GDP in defense spending.
maybe you are and maybe you are correct but the Canadians I know are much more worried about no affordable housing and grocery prices...
@@bob-p7x6j You are hitting on issues that plague the military as well. The living standards and quality of housing available to our soldiers is deplorable.
Nobody in Toronto is talking about spending more on defense
@@wilhelm4321Except Americans are tired of flipping the bill for our defense. They have the same issues we have. 2% is nothing compared to what they spend.
@@bikingD They don't pay for our security 😂😂😂😂😂
The government needs to get off its ass and pull its weight. Fire Bill Blair he is incapable of standing upright. Bloody embarrassing.
Don’t stop at just Blair,
blair argued for 2 percent but the cabinet didnt want to commit to this
Trudeau is the problem, not Blair
@@justinleon3509 - Then he should resign out of principle.
@@justinleon3509You actually believe what Blair said😅! He is a liberal, nothing he says is true.
We couldn't defend PEI , my friend is in the military and says they have no equipment period, just a joke!
Just In eight years
The stuff the do have is from the 50s and 60s.
@@deepbritit’s been decades!! Both the Conservatives and Liberals are guilty of neglecting our military.
Who's looking to invade P.E.I.
@@JewelWill1 clearly you’ve never had there potatoes! 🥔
What an embarrassment! We’re freeloaders in the eyes of world.
All our so called defense spending is literally to defend other countries. We get no benefit from it as we do not have the tax dollars from such a small population to defend such a monstrous border. If someone like trump or pootin wants to take over Canada, they could. And they will if this carries on. No amount of tax dollars that we can provide will change this.
you mean, like Iceland, the Baltics and about 90% of NATO? lol
Why do you want to outsource Canadian defense and foreign policy to NATO? Why do you want to be a Russian nuclear target?
@@seanhiggins2740 what is there in Canada that Russia would need to nuke? It’s our neighbours to the south that possess the targets and some of those they’ve placed on our border. Getting out of international organizations brings our sovereignty home. Hungary and Slovakia are in the process of redefining their relationship to NATO. Others will follow.
@@jeffhedrich3551 "what is there in Canada that Russia would need to nuke?" Need? As the Russians have over 5,000 nuclear weapons sitting around doing nothing as a sunken cost, I suppose they could make up an excuse to use a few on Canada and Trudeau's big mouth.
"Getting out of international organizations brings our sovereignty home." Exactly! Especially when they are a proven failure like NATO is.
We have tampons in mens military/government bathrooms. Canada is fully secure. 🙃
😂😂😂. Classic statement and fully agree.
@user-jb3wz2zv8j - Aw, heavy flow?
@user-jb3wz2zv8jweirdo!!!!
Blair's a drunk 🥴
It's about time and long over do that Canada meets our commitment to NATO and prop up our own shrinking military. Our soldiers and Country both deserve it!
🍁 thank you / merci 🍁
Why do you want to outsource Canadian defense and foreign policy to NATO? Why do you want to be a Russian nuclear target?
I guess Canada is more concerned with inclusion, reconciliation and appeasing the rainbow bridge than defending our country!!!!
If the Liberals would forget about their Socialistic doctrine and put the money into our defense spending then our Canada will be better off. Maybe release the power and dollars of Canada's O& G sector and we will have more than enough $$ to equip our armed services. Maybe if the politicians had their family put in harms way, then maybe we would see some action.
Bill Blair ask him how well he handled the G20 as Toronto's Police Chief.
Spend the money. Canada has been a major participant in every major commonwealth conflict. Canada was amongst the most capable militaries in both world wars. We need to be ready to show our strength as a strong and free nation and defend western values like our 4 fathers did so proudly. Spend the 2 percent and stop sending it to foreign countries we must be ready to defend ourselves and our allies.
2 years Conscription for every male 17 to 20. It has large social positives. In brings our mosaic together in a military brotherhood. Canada should have a really strong military.
Conscription is not neccessary ... just hire those (males and females) who want to serve.
Trump and Poilivere will have lots to fix, but ALL of North America will benefit from their eventual leadership....Common Sense...
Poillievre has consistently refused to commit to the 2 percent. He'll fund tax cuts with military spending cuts instead of increases. Need to get rid of Trudeau but Poilievre will not fix anything.
Trump is going to jail he can't even fix his botched hooker payments.
Trump is going to jail
We are such an embarrassment. We literally can't defend ourselves - from the military right down to the home owner.
canada has been free riding for many years now. no excuse when poorer countries are meeting and in some cases exceeding their nato pledge.
Exactly like Estonia is north of 3%
Lol Estonia's 3% is like $50m a year. It based on economy. So Canada's 1.5% that we spend is $25 billion. We're not talking chump change either. For our population, we spend more than many in nato in actual dollars.
Why do you want to outsource Canadian defense and foreign policy to NATO? Why do you want to be a Russian nuclear target?
@@craigquann - That's why it's 2% of GDP for all, rather than % of geography or % of population. Canada would look even worse.
@user-kq5ke5yb6k lol you realize we're still like 7th place overall for spending on nato even at 1.5% in terms of actual $.
Trump will help Canada to correct our military spending problem whether we like it or not.
Does Bill Blair know he is still alive? Maybe it is just his soul that is dead.
We also need the open up the ship yards again and start building some ships instead of just letting everything Rot
we are building ships. CSC and Arctic patrol ships
Are shipyards are a joke! and corrupt.
And 2 new refueling and resupply ships. Longest ships ever built in Canada
They have ordered 15 new type 26 frigates
@@ehbcd - Oh, "ordered," well, ready for deployment....
minister of defense never in the military typical of all Liberal appointments .......the reason they need to waste money on consultants
Trudeau's fault!
Pathetic.. no government has met the 2% get educated
Harper spent even less on the CAF. Neither party has spent much on the CAF since the 1960s.
@@gilchris How much money was wasted when Trudeau canceled the fighter jets Harper had ordered and years later bought the same fighter jets?
if Trudeau hadnt cancelled[ at great expense for the cancellation} the jets Harper ordered our pilots could be flying new jets now
Listen I don’t like JT at all, but let’s be real though. The conservatives and liberals have both ignored our military for decades!!!
2 percent!! Pretty simple, get it done!
Seven years ago, at the London NATO summit, Trudeau misinformed Trump about Canada's defence spending being 1.4% of GDP, which was our target for 2024-5, not our actual spending, which was 1.3% or less. And he isn't even going to match that projected estimate. You can't believe anything Trudeau says about spending. These differences look small, but when you are talking about 0.1% shares of GDP you are talking about billions of dollars.
Allow me to understand.. we have billions of dollars to dish out to Ukraine on their military, but we have to “find the money” to improve our own military. Make it make sense!
We have the money to spend on the military but our Prime Minister would rather spend it on his pet priorities.
One has to wonder about the kickbacks to our regimes masters?
Maybe a 40% reduction in the size of our federal government could be allotted to our military?
Seems like a viable solution to me.
“We’ve still got a lot of work still to do” is like the Liberal Party motto. And it’s in quite literally in every sector of governance- military, healthcare, energy, agriculture, and so on.
Yeah, as a Canadian i am embarrassed, and have been for a very long time... there was a time we could stand tall, walk and talk with some authority, were respected and listened to on the world stage... not anymore and we don't deserve to be, smh... edit: I have high respect for our veterans but not our leadership, that is where the failure is
Promote PEACE not weapons
You can promote peace very easily through superior firepower.
Yes let's stand around singing Kumbaya that'll solve the problem
Peace requires strength to protect it.
@@craigquann weapons encourage GENOCIDE not PEACE
@@craigquann Genocide is not the road to peace Guns enable Genocide
I don’t like trump , but blaming him is crazy.
PM Drama Student will eventually "raise" defense spending to 2% of GDP. But he's going to do it by SHRINKING the size of the GDP in Canada, instead of increasing the number of dollars that Canada spends on it's CAF.
Mark Norman was a victim of Trudeau's mistake. He was wronged, but fortunately he won the case. After the settlement, he retired.
The failed prosecution of Norman had cost the taxpayer $1.4 million.
Well we spent all the money to GC strategies, Ukraine, Gaza, Israel and vaccines. Trudeau must go!
It's sad that we have boat loads of cash to hand out to immigrants, to put them in hotels and give them everything they need but we can't take care of our own defense commitments. The world is in turmoil right now and we should be building our capabilities and our military strength to be able to defend our country and our allies should it be necessary.
Why do you want to outsource Canadian defense and foreign policy to NATO? Why do you want to be a Russian nuclear target?
How do you tax your citizens to near death but still have no money???
Foreign policy=defence policy
Canada would have hit the 2% mark a long time ago but all the money they should have invested into their own military they’ve sent to Ukraine
Hmmm sending money to a country defending itself seems like a better use of money
thats not true at all lol. Canada has sent 4 billion in aid since 2022. That 2 billion a year; would need a lot more than that to reach 2%.
@@wilhelm4321 Canada also has to defend itself though.
@@boyo1348 From who?
@@wilhelm4321oh you think Canada is immune? Best take a look atvwhats happening in the Artic
Start building Miniature Drones by the Millions. This is the future of Warfare. Your Welcome Bill.
Maybe they take the idea of a bear being able to climb up and down a pole more seriously than their out of touch counterparts.
Vice Admiral Norman = word salad
American défense contractors need more of our tax dollars 💵 + 🚽 …come on Canada!
There is 9 years of more you will do. Times up on all counts. Completely useless.
Should stop spending more on Ukraine $
So stop supporting those actually fighting a belligerent dictatorship and increase spending for a hypothetical, unidentified, supposed, future belligerent that is quite probably the very one the Ukraine is currently fighting? Makes sense to me. SMH
Blair has been useless on everything he’s been responsible for…..everything!
I think most Canadians would be happy to use tax payers money on defence . We currently have Mounties in skirts, CAF with tampons, police with rainbow cars. etc. I d like to see strong Canadians with guns.
So glad I am finally out of the CAF….complete waste of an adult work life.
I am sorry to hear that about your experience but I do thank you for your service to Canada. I only wish our governments supported you and your comrades as well as you have served our nation.
Blair is full of hot air.
But do they have free tampons in all public men washrooms tho?
Bill is a complete goof
What if.......the country's that don't pay are then forced into committing some kind of event the world stage???
We need to take care of our own and spend that money on problems we have right now, Not fighting america's wars.
Trump will just sanction Canada if we dont spend the 2%. The money will be spent either way
We can't fight our own wars. That's the issue here. You realize that Canada is going to lose a huge portion of the Artic?
But you're down with helping Ukraine fight a proxy war, right? 15 billion for them is far better than 15 billion to spend on our own problems, right?
Why should the Americans defend our country if we are not willing to defend it?
Yes that why all Travel for military has been drastically reduced.
We have also lost a fighter training squadron in CFB Cold Lake recently and now train our depleted CAF pilots in Texas! How we have fallen under this regime, it almost fells that we are being disarmed on purpose.
Do your investment puffing elsewhere. This thread is anout defence.
why the usa send to ukraine????
yes canada ,needs to start making, its own weapons, not buying them ,from another country .thats for sure.. we need to make canada great again to .... cant let the ndp liberals .near any . canadain credit card at all ...they cut off.
Canadians main concern is to put food on the table.
If Putin was to place his troops in the Canadian arctic having food on the table would be a secondary concern very quickly.
@@JeromeKatchin-jr1um💯
Just meet the minimum standard for once liberal-NDP. Like in anything 😅
Let's just join the USA. We're a joke country.
Funny to listen to the Americans threaten no wartime assistance to underpaying NATO countries. Ukraine proved that doesn’t matter. What matters is who is the enemy and geography. We’ve already got the geography part covered.
Perhaps we should just forfeit our independence to them along with our natural resources.
Ukraine isn't a nato country. And the USA/European interest in Ukraine is self serving. There's zero excuses for Canada not funding our military. It looks even worse that we're a founding member and one of the most lax as of the last 7-8 years.
Blair Bla Bla Bla
Ba ha ha ha! We have sunk to new lows, under Prince Sparkle Socks.
We also need to start building our own fighter.Jets bring back the avril arrow
Avro, Please. Avro. And it would be a bit obsolete by now.
The Avril Arrow was not nor could it ever be turned into a fighter. It is waaaaayyyy too big to maneuver. It is 15 feet wider and 30 feet longer then the new F35's. It was a 1 trick pony - bee line in a straight line as fast as possible to intercept Russian bombers. The day the ICBM was invented (launch of Sputnik) was the day the Arrow was obsolete.
@@wally7856 Canada has the ability to develop it's own fighters though. We could develop and build all our own aircraft in all honesty.
I think that the A. V. Roe company that initially designed and built the Avro Arrow is no longer around.
Step One: remove Bill Blair from all involvement with the Canadian government - regardless of whether it's public or private sector. He destroys everything he touches.
Get out of NATO, done deal.
😅
Our country is so pathetic
Nothing new. Buzz off Biden. We have our own issues right now.
meh usa should focus on the debt on stop pending billions on Ukraine and Israël
Time to leave nato. The neverending needless conflicts are of no benefit to the average canadian.
If we were to leave NATO then we wound not be able to defend our country spending 20% of our GDP on our national defence ... so just spending 2% of our GDP on our national defence is a real bargain.
Bill Blair is a joke
Trump needs to tell NATO delinquent members that not only do they need to spend 2% this year but make up for the 2% that they have missing for decades or they will be kicked out of NATO.
Canada agreed to spend 2% of our GDP on National Defence in 2014 and reconfirmed our committment in 2021 to achieve that goal by 2024 ... so spend that 2% now not the 1.7% by 2029.
Why do you want to outsource Canadian defense and foreign policy to Trump or NATO? Why do you want to be a Russian nuclear target?
GFY - you want to pay - PAY - I for ONE do not want my tax $ going to the Worlds wealthiest WAR CRIMINAL and its corrupted biased Pro Israel Govt who pays BILLIONS to GENOCIDE! So GFY