Hello Arthur, first of all, I've been following your videos since your time with the A6000 series (including subscription). In my opinion, you convey it really well. Thank you. You also have a lovely family and a great model, which makes your photos seem even more authentic. I hope you have a great time and a wonderful rest of the weekend. Best wishes to your family. Stefan, from Hesse in Germany.
Great lens update. I saw a comparison with the old lens FE 70200 f4 which I‘m still using. The new lens is much sharper, more details and have a better contrast. But the price level is high.
I currently have the 70-200 GM ii and seriously considering swapping it out for this one. I never bring it with me anywhere because it's too long and I have to carry a big bag to accommodate it. I also don't bring my 90mm macro with me anywhere because it's such a specialized lens. Yet, with my stupid Ricoh GR iiiX, I use macro mode all the time so I know that I'd use it. I also have the 2X tele which makes this new lens so versatile. Decisions, decisions....
I’m in the exact same position. I have both, I use the 90mm for the macro primarily; the 70-200 mark 2 is pretty dang amazing when the occasion for its use does arise. Do I sell the two lenses and get this instead? Am I going to hate life not having that f2.8?
@@thepkeezy I actually decided to go a different direction. 🤣 I picked up a Tamron 28-200 this weekend to fill the void. So far I am LOVING the results from it! It's as sharp as my 24-105 G lens (which I now plan to sell). For $650 on sale you can't go wrong. That way I can keep my 70-200 GM ii for those situations that require it along with the 90mm macro.
@@zweiche I bought the new 70 200 G f4 Macro - and LOVE it! Still have the other two lenses and may eventually sell them, but the new lens comes with me everywhere. The only reason to get the 2.8 version is if you shoot sports often or are a portrait photographer. For everything else, the f4 is absolutely fine. Good luck!
I’ve had the first version for 2 years now I think and when I saw this I was wondering if it would be worth an upgrade (for my usage it never is), but I really like internal zoom for my lenses so I’m good 😊.
@@ThirdyAntonio I like internal zoom too although it's not a hard line and depends on how much things extend. Yet I seem to read more comments saying it should have been a clone of the Canon RF 70-200/4. Something about a photo of that lens collapsed makes peoples' thoughts stop. Like the collapsed state size is all that matters. I think taking tcs and being a halfway macro are good additions that the Canon cannot do. I wish the Canon- "small and compact!" people would just get the Canon lens.
Can’t tell from watching on my iPad, but I think the clarity/brilliance of the photos are not up to such of a prime lens?? Is that a compromise one gets with a zoom lens?
I think it rathers speaks about the time the author paid to this review. His former reviews were totally excellent now I have a feeling he is too busy with his family life so he just took the lense to a family trip and killed two birds with one stone.
Very interesting lens, but if you already have a 70-200mm f/2.8 II and are looking for a macro lens, it's hard to justify getting this one. For me, the external zoom is already a deal breaker (even more so for macro work). The 0.5x magnification makes me think that this lens shouldn't even be called macro at all: normally macro means 1x. I wish they would have kept things simple and released a prime 180mm or 200mm macro instead. Now that I could definitely use.
It's not the topic of this video, but do you think sony will release a refreshed version of a 18-200mm for APSC, now that a6700 is out? That's the perfect travel combo imo, but no good 18-200mm is available...
Think it is great lens. This is great for Macro food and product photography/videography especially for Aspc users. They are missing a 90mm-105mm macro lens in the lens up.
@@adrianwongmedia Why would you want a shorter focal length macro lens? I mean I know they exist, but they seem like a bit of a novelty or for super niche situations. The farther you are from your subject (ie.: the longer the focal length, all else being equal) the more space you have to set up studio lights without your lens casting shadows on your subject. If anything, it's surprising that they don't have an even longer macro lens.
Thank you. Did you end up buying this lens? Have you used it with the latest compact C bodies like the A7RC or A7CII? If so how does it perform? I’m considering it but looking for feedback from an experienced owner. Take care.
Follow-up. I did just buy this after finding a well priced used copy in mint condition. Will use it on my compact C bodies even though I already own the f/2.8 GM II I use on my full size full frame A1 and A7RV. Take care.
Hello Arthur. Thank you for all your content, you convince me to sony 6400 😀 and tamron 17-70 f2.8. It would be great to see your opinion about the new tamron 70-180 f2.8 G2 which can be great companion to my set up
Thank you for the informative video! :-) This lens would also make a great travel telephoto zoom for the Alpha 6600, possibly with the 1.4x teleconverter to make it suitable for macro as well! What do you think? :-) Best regards
I thought to get my get first camera with tele lens because ccloser cann covered with iPhone 15, 70-200 f4 can shoot macro which is more capability, butAPSC 70-350 has more zoom, which should i choose? How about Rx100 Vii and RX10 iV, are they worth it, I hope ew version with Exmor T going to release tho. I thought to get 20-70mm F4 and pair with 70-200 F4 but as I realoised closer can cover with iPhone 15, I also noot surre if A7Cii/A7CcR are worth it since the big lens wont get benefit from smaller camera body and the EVF experience isn't going to be as good as full size A7. I also.thought to get Hasselblad X2D with single 28mm (22mm FF eq.) because I love its image quality and color and I can crop in a lot too, I also thought to get Leica Q3 which is good overall in one package, also Leica D Lux 7 which is ggoodd enough in a small beautiful package but I hope fixed lens camera can start at ultrawide with good macro too. I focus on Sony because it has that unique ultrawide to tele 20-70mm F4 lens and I Love Sony more, but if I won't get it but a super tele, should I get other brand? Any other brands has small super tele that has macro too like Sony 70-200mm F4 and good in video with minimum rolling shutter? But I still not sure, any advices and suggestions?
That depends entirely on your usage scenarios. Dragonflies? Then yes if money is no concern. Tele-macro can be useful for things a 90/100mm can't realistically reach. That said I'm not abandoning my 90G, I was wishing for something better for dragonflies than the 200-600 but it isn't going to be this 2000e+ thing
I swear I feel like I'm a part of this family 😭😂 Cool lense! I'm going to need a macro lense for hair on bugs legs and a regular one for vlogging and semi-senic pics. Any recommendations?
I get that Sony needs to refresh their lens, but I really don't think anyone was screaming for this lens. What do the people want... 1. A revised 85mm F1.4 (or F1.2) GM II. 2. A newer 16-35mm F2.8 GM II 3. Copy Canon and make a 28-70mm F1.8-2.0
I just watched Tony Northrup’s review of this lens and it is not sharp at 200mm. I’m really disappointed in the overall image quality. I’ll have to pass.
I was expecting (and hoping for) a smaller and lighter PZ model, much like they'd done with the 16-35 f4. That would have been an instant upgrade for me. An external zoom is a disaster and only degrades weather resistant capabilities. Intentionally making it longer to make it compatible with a tele converter is another mistake that annoys the vast majority of shooters to appease a minority that would just buy more appropriate lenses for the job, anyway. I'll pass on this model. Such a shame.
@@highwayman1224 Are you saying you think the majority of people prefer it to be longer so it's compatible with a teleconverter? What percentage of people do you think will prefer a larger lens with tele converter capability rather than a more compact lens?
@@highwayman1224 I don't think so at all. I would say a minimum of 90% of people would prefer a more compact lens over using a teleconverter. Would be an interesting poll, nonetheless.
Slightly more versatile version of the a all rounder. Can’t complain.
Hello Arthur, first of all, I've been following your videos since your time with the A6000 series (including subscription). In my opinion, you convey it really well. Thank you. You also have a lovely family and a great model, which makes your photos seem even more authentic. I hope you have a great time and a wonderful rest of the weekend. Best wishes to your family. Stefan, from Hesse in Germany.
Great lens update. I saw a comparison with the old lens FE 70200 f4 which I‘m still using. The new lens is much sharper, more details and have a better contrast. But the price level is high.
This 70-200 F4 on the Sony A74 would be awesome
Just when I was about to drop money on getting back my 24 to 105 definitely adding to cart
Great lens
Hello Arthur
really would like to know how to choose between
70-200 F4 GII VS 70-350 VS 70-180 ??
I'd choose 70200 f4
@@heySirius707 finally i purchase 70200F4
Could someone explain the ".5 magnification and 1 to 1 magnification? I've never understood this I'm the camera world. TIA 😊 at the 5:08 timestamp
I currently have the 70-200 GM ii and seriously considering swapping it out for this one. I never bring it with me anywhere because it's too long and I have to carry a big bag to accommodate it. I also don't bring my 90mm macro with me anywhere because it's such a specialized lens. Yet, with my stupid Ricoh GR iiiX, I use macro mode all the time so I know that I'd use it. I also have the 2X tele which makes this new lens so versatile. Decisions, decisions....
I’m in the exact same position. I have both, I use the 90mm for the macro primarily; the 70-200 mark 2 is pretty dang amazing when the occasion for its use does arise.
Do I sell the two lenses and get this instead? Am I going to hate life not having that f2.8?
@@thepkeezy I actually decided to go a different direction. 🤣 I picked up a Tamron 28-200 this weekend to fill the void. So far I am LOVING the results from it! It's as sharp as my 24-105 G lens (which I now plan to sell). For $650 on sale you can't go wrong. That way I can keep my 70-200 GM ii for those situations that require it along with the 90mm macro.
What did you decide to do? i have 90macro and 24-70gm2 , i was thinking to add 70-200gm2 till i see your comment …
@@zweiche I bought the new 70 200 G f4 Macro - and LOVE it! Still have the other two lenses and may eventually sell them, but the new lens comes with me everywhere. The only reason to get the 2.8 version is if you shoot sports often or are a portrait photographer. For everything else, the f4 is absolutely fine. Good luck!
@@RandumbTech glad you liked it ! How did you like macro performance , do you consider selling 90macro or f2.8gm2
I’ve had the first version for 2 years now I think and when I saw this I was wondering if it would be worth an upgrade (for my usage it never is), but I really like internal zoom for my lenses so I’m good 😊.
Not having an internal zooming was my deal breaker
@@ThirdyAntonio I like internal zoom too although it's not a hard line and depends on how much things extend. Yet I seem to read more comments saying it should have been a clone of the Canon RF 70-200/4. Something about a photo of that lens collapsed makes peoples' thoughts stop. Like the collapsed state size is all that matters. I think taking tcs and being a halfway macro are good additions that the Canon cannot do. I wish the Canon- "small and compact!" people would just get the Canon lens.
Great lens!
Can’t tell from watching on my iPad, but I think the clarity/brilliance of the photos are not up to such of a prime lens?? Is that a compromise one gets with a zoom lens?
I think it rathers speaks about the time the author paid to this review. His former reviews were totally excellent now I have a feeling he is too busy with his family life so he just took the lense to a family trip and killed two birds with one stone.
would this make sense in APSC if you own the 70-350mm?
My question as well
Very interesting lens, but if you already have a 70-200mm f/2.8 II and are looking for a macro lens, it's hard to justify getting this one. For me, the external zoom is already a deal breaker (even more so for macro work). The 0.5x magnification makes me think that this lens shouldn't even be called macro at all: normally macro means 1x. I wish they would have kept things simple and released a prime 180mm or 200mm macro instead. Now that I could definitely use.
Exactly. This is not a macro lens. It's almost like calling every Tamron lens a macro lens
thank you for the great video.
would you recommend this for A6700? or would you suggest something else with similar specs?
I'm curious about this too as I'm consider whether I should upgrade to the 6700 or a7iv or r4(used).
It's not the topic of this video, but do you think sony will release a refreshed version of a 18-200mm for APSC, now that a6700 is out? That's the perfect travel combo imo, but no good 18-200mm is available...
The Tamron 18-300mm is better than the Sony 18-200mm, and it has a longer reach on top of being better.
@@coder543 Meh, at 300mm it's really not sharp. At this point I would go with the sony 70-350... I really just want a new good 18-200 :x
@@Bluesky35102 I completely agree. the 70-350 is a really good lens! I love mine.
Think it is great lens. This is great for Macro food and product photography/videography especially for Aspc users. They are missing a 90mm-105mm macro lens in the lens up.
@@daniellehotsky1776 They are missing a Full frame equivalent to 90-105mm macro lens for apsc users. I own 90mm for my fx3.
@@adrianwongmedia Why would you want a shorter focal length macro lens? I mean I know they exist, but they seem like a bit of a novelty or for super niche situations. The farther you are from your subject (ie.: the longer the focal length, all else being equal) the more space you have to set up studio lights without your lens casting shadows on your subject. If anything, it's surprising that they don't have an even longer macro lens.
Thank you. Did you end up buying this lens? Have you used it with the latest compact C bodies like the A7RC or A7CII? If so how does it perform? I’m considering it but looking for feedback from an experienced owner. Take care.
Follow-up. I did just buy this after finding a well priced used copy in mint condition. Will use it on my compact C bodies even though I already own the f/2.8 GM II I use on my full size full frame A1 and A7RV. Take care.
Thank you Arthur great review bro 👍🏼
Hello Arthur. Thank you for all your content, you convince me to sony 6400 😀 and tamron 17-70 f2.8. It would be great to see your opinion about the new tamron 70-180 f2.8 G2 which can be great companion to my set up
did you try this on a crop sensor?
Have 70-350mm n never regret it..
But this lens Look very good & cool ...
-A6700 OR 200-600MM G LENS-
I assume the teleconverter(s) are extra, so it's really not a 1:1 macro unless included. Is it?
Yeah, sure. Teleconverter x2 is included and Sony is including also 135mm 1.8 GM if you need to shot in low light…
Thank you for the informative video! :-) This lens would also make a great travel telephoto zoom for the Alpha 6600, possibly with the 1.4x teleconverter to make it suitable for macro as well!
What do you think? :-)
Best regards
How do you think it’ll do for shooting indoor sports?
Can you do a comparison between the first version?
I thought to get my get first camera with tele lens because ccloser cann covered with iPhone 15, 70-200 f4 can shoot macro which is more capability, butAPSC 70-350 has more zoom, which should i choose? How about Rx100 Vii and RX10 iV, are they worth it, I hope ew version with Exmor T going to release tho. I thought to get 20-70mm F4 and pair with 70-200 F4 but as I realoised closer can cover with iPhone 15, I also noot surre if A7Cii/A7CcR are worth it since the big lens wont get benefit from smaller camera body and the EVF experience isn't going to be as good as full size A7. I also.thought to get Hasselblad X2D with single 28mm (22mm FF eq.) because I love its image quality and color and I can crop in a lot too, I also thought to get Leica Q3 which is good overall in one package, also Leica D Lux 7 which is ggoodd enough in a small beautiful package but I hope fixed lens camera can start at ultrawide with good macro too. I focus on Sony because it has that unique ultrawide to tele 20-70mm F4 lens and I Love Sony more, but if I won't get it but a super tele, should I get other brand? Any other brands has small super tele that has macro too like Sony 70-200mm F4 and good in video with minimum rolling shutter? But I still not sure, any advices and suggestions?
Compatible with a6000?
Do you think I should sell my GM 100-400 and replace it with this lens + a 1.4 teleconverter?
Will Sigma make 24-35mm f/2 DG HSM Art with Sony E mount?
Strictly looking at this lens from a macro standpoint, do you think it's better than the Sony G 90mm f/2.8??
No.....
That depends entirely on your usage scenarios. Dragonflies? Then yes if money is no concern. Tele-macro can be useful for things a 90/100mm can't realistically reach. That said I'm not abandoning my 90G, I was wishing for something better for dragonflies than the 200-600 but it isn't going to be this 2000e+ thing
Lowlight test?
I swear I feel like I'm a part of this family 😭😂 Cool lense! I'm going to need a macro lense for hair on bugs legs and a regular one for vlogging and semi-senic pics. Any recommendations?
Do you think this is worth it for APSC’s? 👀
excellent
I get that Sony needs to refresh their lens, but I really don't think anyone was screaming for this lens. What do the people want...
1. A revised 85mm F1.4 (or F1.2) GM II.
2. A newer 16-35mm F2.8 GM II
3. Copy Canon and make a 28-70mm F1.8-2.0
Hey you got your 16-35 😉
Are you, by any chance, related to the guy from Hoovies Garage?
We could have made it smaller... look at the size of the 200mm zoom lens in the rx100 VII...
Still looks big and bulky. Personally would have preferred a totally manual 70-200 or 50-180 diminutive lens. Regards.
Look at the Tamron 70-180mm f2.8 for something lighter.
I will buy this lens if the price drop.
I AM SO GETTING THAT.... When I save up the money...
Maybe its time to move one from sony a6000 :(
Sony should have made the magnification ratio to 1:1 for macro, it would have been a killer of lens..
And physically impossible
You pretending to be a paparazzi took me completely off guard
Cute kids - they look like their mom, lol!
Weird comment
how dare you mention my hair
I just watched Tony Northrup’s review of this lens and it is not sharp at 200mm. I’m really disappointed in the overall image quality. I’ll have to pass.
I was expecting (and hoping for) a smaller and lighter PZ model, much like they'd done with the 16-35 f4. That would have been an instant upgrade for me.
An external zoom is a disaster and only degrades weather resistant capabilities.
Intentionally making it longer to make it compatible with a tele converter is another mistake that annoys the vast majority of shooters to appease a minority that would just buy more appropriate lenses for the job, anyway.
I'll pass on this model. Such a shame.
I highly doubt it annoys the "vast" majority of shooters..... 🙄😂
@@highwayman1224
Are you saying you think the majority of people prefer it to be longer so it's compatible with a teleconverter?
What percentage of people do you think will prefer a larger lens with tele converter capability rather than a more compact lens?
@@james0321 nope, I'm just saying that you saying that the vast majority of people is stretching it a little out of proportion....
@@highwayman1224 I don't think so at all. I would say a minimum of 90% of people would prefer a more compact lens over using a teleconverter. Would be an interesting poll, nonetheless.
The sony 70-350mm is less than half the size, less than half the weight, with a much longer reach, and much cheaper :).
NOT HEAVY! THESE DAYS I WANT FE 24-240 ; VERSUS 70-200
For an international traveler such huge lenses are impossible to consider. They are simply impractical.