I had a scenario where I was the odd man out; it was during a naval exercise. I was the only radar operator to correctly understand what was happening during a simulated night combat. Command zoned on an unconnected radar contact; they thought it was our adversary. I was tracking our adversary, and made no bones about it. Command ignored me, and we were attacked and sunk in the very manner I predicted by the very contact I was tracking. To be a non-conformist in that situation only made things worse for me - I was told I was going to be charged for insubordination before the simulated attack. Making my Division Officer look bad did me no favours going forward. You'd think I'd have gotten an 'attaboy' - but no. I was written up as insubordinate anyways.
which is partly responsible for my honorable medical discharge. i look at them and lament as i think “welcome to atheism and the democrat party all you peer pressure conforming drones.” Thinking for one’s self is highly discouraged and downtrodden in the modern military hierarchy. I am much happier being an Alpha male protecting everyone as opposed to being an uninformed grunt blindly following the orders ignorant orders of those who couldn’t pour last night’s beer out of non osha approved color exposing feminine footwear fully equipped with detailed plans of engagement sans cryptography on the rear elivatory pillar.
I totally understand that. It is frustrating. Wasn't there anything you could have done or said in your defense? It is hard, if not near impossible, to contradict your group or some authority figure. But I just look back at Germany in WW2 to know that sometimes YOU MUST, cost it whatever it will. Sorry it cost you, but kudos to you for sticking to your guns.
Great example ... if incredibly sad and frustrating to know that the herd gets its own way, and jumps off the cliff together, sure that they are right. Appreciate you sharing this great example, this personal story that epitomises herd compliance. Respect.
It would seem that sometimes the facts can be so bad that it is best to ignore them and re-write the history. eg Winston Churchill: the Gallipoli campaign was his idea, 120,000 allied deaths. Making a stand at Singapore was at his insistence and another 80,000 troops killed or captured. Not a good record for a heroic war time leader. OR, the My Lai massacre Lt William Calley was fêted as an after dinner speaker, the the man who stopped the killing was not recognized as a hero.
It's only when you have a strong opinion and can firmly stand on your own ground that you can tacle peer pressure. For someone who might be a bit insecure it's not easy. You do concider what "price" you have to pay for telling the truth.
@@rcfokker1630 yeah. But when you know you're right, "they" are the awkward ones and you be like "morons!". Who cares about them when you know you're right.
The "reviews" technique in online markets is a real life application of this. Even if one had different perception of a product, when they read the reviews that speak more of the opposite perception, it will likely change their original perception.
Many other experiments confirm the conclusions of Asche. Would seem to me that going along with the group is mostly a fear of standing up for what you see, but because perhaps there is some survival mechanism at work whereby even though they know they are not being honest, their survival in general is more guaranteed by being in line with the majority, that the impulse to survive outweighs the temporary dishonesty to self. Herd animals always go with the herd if possible as there is more safety in numbers vs being out there alone.
@@EmoBearRights In my opinion, it's indeed lack of confidence but also the capability to actually go against the crowd. If you're not that good at it, you'll be disregarded by the crowd or the crowd, as a whole, would go against you. If you are good enough to influence some, the crowd would be in chaos and left in confusion, while you are still at risk for starting it. So I think that it isn't much about what is right or wrong for you, but what is right to be done for you and the crowd. Unless you could deal with the crowd completely and the best result for you is ensured (whatever the "best result" is for you), it is much safer to go with the crowd instead of against.
This comment indicates how smart and critical thinker you are. Keep it up, most of these studies especially in physiology which is 150 years old need to be reviewed and tested and Questioned!
Conformity for me has not been an issue because I have always been sort of a loner. I remember in the 5th grade, there was this extremely poor girl named "Tonya" who was mercilessly picked on. She had lice and old clothes, etc.. I never participated in the bullying but I never really stopped it. One day a group of girls including myself were in the bathroom and Tonya walked in to use the bathroom. Tonya accidently tucked her dress in her panties. The other girls snickered and refused to tell her. I was the only girl to stand up and tell her "Hey your dress is tucked in your underwear" Tonya said thanks walked out the bathroom. After she left these 6 girls stared at me with hatred and told me I was stupid for telling her and then refused to talk to me for a week. These girls wanted me to apologize to them. Me not giving a dang what they thought was like "yeah, that is not happening" From that day I knew I was different, I said that if it feels wrong to me, it probably is wrong. I question everything and even if it makes me uncomfortable, I go against the grain. I am in an office full of religious zealots who have group think behavior. All of them agree that life starts at conception and that in cases of r@pe or incest a woman should still have the baby. I can assure you that must of these women don't believe and agree with most of the extreme abortion rhetoric and probably had a few abortions themselves but the need to fit in is greater than standing up for what they truly believe.
It's IS groupthink sweety you think LIFE starts when the group tells you to "think" that! It's a matter of Biology sweetey, NOT politics! How many, "cases of r@pe or incest" were involved in the 50/50 Million babies murdered since Roe V Wade? But as is says in the good book, "There is a time & place for everything under the sun.: BUT NOT 450+ each & every day just in the Godless Hell bound, USA!
this video was just long enough< if you are dealing with sprouts, you could be dealing with short attention spans making a video doen't necessarily make it better!!!
I would like to believe that i would have stuck to the truth, at least for the majority of life. There may have been times when i could conform. I think overall it is important for us as parents/educators, to share our life experiences with children/students,. Things that involve us sticking to the truth and also when we haven't, and may have conformed under certain circumstances. This gives them a chance to learn/understand that there are all sorts of possibilities they are not yet aware of. As this clip perfectly displays. Thanks fior the video
I would not conform. I know this due to my teenage years, explicit activities in our middle school were common, and so was peer pressure. And I'm stubborn to a fault, the more aggressive a group or individual becomes, the more I look down on them for using such a primitive form of persuasion, so it gets easier. Not sure why this is.
A lot of cult recruiters found that their richest hunting grounds for recruits were University campuses. Universities are full of smart people with not an over abundance of good sense (due to lack of life experiences), which tends to make them rather vulnerable to smart operators. As to your statement, agreed. They are the people still looking for their way upwards, where upper classes are already there and more likely to be leading the way (Alphas). Many of the lower level people have simply given up on moving upwards and are just busy surviving. However they are more prone to the lower level get rich quick schemes like a sure bet on the horses or poker machines.
People who place their self values on the hands of others or some group identity will succumb to this. They will even condone harassment and abuse if it means they got to be part of such a group. I've seen it over and over again. 🌝
Milgram experiment is another one that shows similar effect, but on a higher lever. It was done after ww2 to show the human morality over authority. However, it shown the darker side of human psychology.
I am usually not the one confirming. My parents follow Jainism and I was always told that it was a true perception of the universe but I always struggled to agree as their teachings were opposite of what I was being told in science books and shows. Finally I just looked at the evidence and concluded that while containing some facts, most of the teachings of Jainism is false and is not based on any empirical evidence. That day I became an agnostic atheist. Apart from this, I am a creative professional which is another thing that most people in India do not recommend as a career option. So I will conclude that while I listen to others' opinion, I follow my own mind.
In Asch's conformity experiment, honesty can be likened to holding a royal flush in poker-it's unbeatable. However, speaking the truth comes with the risk of being shunned by the group, especially in more traditional and conformist settings.
I see this with a "zipper" traffic pattern situation. When the primary lane was switched, it seemed a stupid idea so I analyzed why they did that and realized it was so that it would prompt people to use both lanes. Everyone switched to going single file in the other lane. Wanting to make sure I wasn't wrong, I checked out DOT websites. They are excellent and confirmed my thoughts. I only used the empty lane and maybe had 1 or 2 others join me. I was sure others would start figuring it out but months later they were still single file. Sure of change when it became so blatently obvious how stupid it was for everyone to go single file, it's more than a couple years now. I am amazed. It's a long line, blocking people from a turn lane, and getting in the way or switching lanes back and forth at 2 intersections before. This video makes me wonder how many people see the absurdity of it but don't want to join us mavericks that cruise past all the cars that passed us earlier.
bruh yes, conformity i see it quite allot, its crazy to think about no matter how old or young you are how weird you might look doing the wrong thing. you are still willing to do it just to fit in
An OK experiment, though it is easy to conform or not to when you are surrounded by strangers that you will never see again. A better experiment would be to do it with your current co-workers or whatever group of people you are part of.
At the very beginning of the video, I thought that the lines shown in the second picture were the same length as the lines shown in the first picture. The first of the lines in the second picture is at the back, the second is in the front, and the third is in line with the line in the first picture.
Is this why people in my region refer to a chicken noodle stew as "pot pie?" I've gotten a lot of flack for calling it "chicken stew." People have all kinds of rationalizations as to why we should continue calling it "pot pie" and why I am wrong for favouring "chicken stew" in my own speech. Surprisingly, these arguments are seldom "we do it out of tradition," which is honestly the only rational argument in the case of this linguistic kerfuffle. (In my own, humble opinion, at least.) What's more strange to me is the fire and vitriol with which so many people fight for this hill. We have bigger fish to fry, people! Let me call it chicken stew!
In a Soviet documentary called "Я и другие" ("Ya i drugije"/"The others and I") I saw some similar experiments on little kids. In the 1st one the scientist showed a white and a black pyramid to a group of kids, asked them to name the pyramids' colours, and there was a funny moment: after actor kids answered, "Both are white", the tested girl repeated after them, but when the scientist asked her to grab the black one, she did it without any problems I think this experiment and this phrase "Both are white" (rus: obe belyje) even became a meme If you are curious, here's the both-are-white part: ua-cam.com/video/IekW1SjaYyQ/v-deo.html And the whole documentary: ua-cam.com/video/_LYe58b-3HM/v-deo.html
Certainly, saying what we think or observe is not always a good idea. For years I have been relegated to my job, where bosses prefer to hear that they have great ideas, before listening to possible failures.
Not distinguishing individuals by hormone levels makes us think we must all be similar. I would be interesting to match this theory with Helen Fisher's discoveries. I bet the conforming group has more cerotonin and less of others.
@@sprouts Thanks, I am incredibly happy with your work and recommend it to everyone in my circle, I did not expect an answer from you, for me Helen is fundamental to understanding life's behavior, it would be wonderful to have her theory here, thanks again!!!
@@julioprada Glad to hear that! The video will come - I promise! I try to answer to all sensible comments, but that's not always possible. Soon we will start monthly meeting with our patrons who want to discuss new topics to make. If you ever get a chance, maybe you us there as well.
I generally fall in non conformist. I've noticed it may not be 100% of the time. As I've gotten older, it's more 100%. There is some subconscious about it. 20 to 30% sounds about right. We see that in society today. Th 15% is really loud, however.
Ain't that the truth. Considering most doctors are not dumb, their opinions behind closed doors will be different. Always follow the money, doctors conform because their livelihoods depend on it. That's why they prescribe medicines with huge side effects because it's part of the guidelines, they cannot be sued if they followed the "rule book"
Somehow, I see the opposite oeffect more commonly in social media it seems that anonymity, negativity and the desire to be right can take priority over conformity.
conformity in social media is low compared to real life. in social media there is no direct effect of not conforming and it has promoted a culture of being right over conforming. however its quite opposite in social settings where an indivual definitely has to interact with a group with opposite belief
If i get this correctly, the study showed that groups cannot put a significant amount of pressure to individuals, since only 5% were affected by peer pressure.... This is what i get from this, please correct me if i am mistaken, English is not my native language so i might get something wrong....
@@sprouts thnx for your reply! Yes, sometimes, but even then the percentage was significantly low... If i remember correctly, was it 1 out of 8 or 10?? So again the effect of groups affecting an individual remains at a lower level..
These type of studies are especially important today when these social media conglomerates have the ability to create the ILLUSION of public perception via “influencers” in order to alter public opinion. Ie. 2 genders or more
My comment is biased by the fact that I learned about Asch's Conformity Experiment in an attempt to find comfort for the real transformation process I have been going through during the last decade plus. After many years expressing different and lonely opinions, I decided to agree with the position of the majority, even though I am 100% sure it is wrong. Please do not ask me what made me turn 180 degrees and join stupidity. I am approaching 60 years. Still a young boy in this world of uncertainty.
I'm not a conformist, I'm a contrarian and an antagonist. The more people that agreed on the wrong answer, the more excited I would be to disagree with them. In fact, the more people agreed on the _right_ answer, the more I would want to examine the other, wrong answers to make sure they're really wrong. I love being the lone dissenting voice in the crowd that turns out to be right. I basically think I'm better than everyone else.
I saw this happen in tiktok. The Hailey hate that is happening where people post "evidence" that Hailey is obsessed with Selena is getting out of hand that even if their so called "evidence" is made up, people still hated on Hailey even though they were not a fan of Selena or Justin. As of now, "evidence" of Selena's past posts were showing up specifically those where she seemed to be a bad person. For me, no one is completely innocent but none of them also deserves the hate because they are both women who Justin Bieber fell in love with (including Selena being his ex and Hailey being his wife). People are bored and obsessed on the lives of others but what can I say. They are celebrities.
3:30 - Asch's experiment also showed that if just one other acting student responded correctly the effect of peer pressure decreased substantially. That is why there is so much pressure on us to conform, because the minute someone else says "Hey, wait a minute", the gig is up! ;-)
'Science' has the same kind of effect on "well educated" people... Could you do a vid on why the most intelligent people are also the ones that are fooled the easiest!?
The dead don't rise again either. Some belief systems are idealistic about defending the weak results may vary. Could we end up in a non binary world where you are the real outcast? Probably not.
@@Fred-ff6bv if I were a pessimist I would find getting out of bed disheartening too but unlike some I do not concern myself with the thought of others I merely like to understand how some may come to absurd or mislead conclusions. Try to see things through others perspectives, remembering that our life experiences form our perception of the world. You may be shocked and fascinated.
@@daniels5709 i understand others prospectives and motivations very well just as this video explains. most people are motivated by self centric needs and wants rather than doing what is right. to use an extreme example, if a building was burning and someone’s dog and their enemy were both in the building, most people would try to save their dog before their enemy. there’s a conditioned flaw carried by the majority of the people in the united states and many other countries to follow their emotions (what they feel is right) rather than having a clear understanding of the unambiguous knowledge of what is actually right and wrong (good and evil if you will) to go with the crowd even though you know that the crowd is wrong is bad. it makes one a liar and a hypocrite. so the right action in my giving scenario is to save the human over the dog even if the human is your enemy and the dog is your favorite worth ridiculous amounts of money. and for the record, i’m not a pessimist, i am a very optimistic realist.
I had a scenario where I was the odd man out; it was during a naval exercise. I was the only radar operator to correctly understand what was happening during a simulated night combat. Command zoned on an unconnected radar contact; they thought it was our adversary. I was tracking our adversary, and made no bones about it. Command ignored me, and we were attacked and sunk in the very manner I predicted by the very contact I was tracking. To be a non-conformist in that situation only made things worse for me - I was told I was going to be charged for insubordination before the simulated attack. Making my Division Officer look bad did me no favours going forward. You'd think I'd have gotten an 'attaboy' - but no. I was written up as insubordinate anyways.
which is partly responsible for my honorable medical discharge. i look at them and lament as i think “welcome to atheism and the democrat party all you peer pressure conforming drones.” Thinking for one’s self is highly discouraged and downtrodden in the modern military hierarchy. I am much happier being an Alpha male protecting everyone as opposed to being an uninformed grunt blindly following the orders ignorant orders of those who couldn’t pour last night’s beer out of non osha approved color exposing feminine footwear fully equipped with detailed plans of engagement sans cryptography on the rear elivatory pillar.
I totally understand that. It is frustrating. Wasn't there anything you could have done or said in your defense? It is hard, if not near impossible, to contradict your group or some authority figure. But I just look back at Germany in WW2 to know that sometimes YOU MUST, cost it whatever it will. Sorry it cost you, but kudos to you for sticking to your guns.
Great example ... if incredibly sad and frustrating to know that the herd gets its own way, and jumps off the cliff together, sure that they are right. Appreciate you sharing this great example, this personal story that epitomises herd compliance. Respect.
That's actually infuriating. Oh well, you know that you were correct.. only thing that matters.
It would seem that sometimes the facts can be so bad that it is best to ignore them and re-write the history. eg Winston Churchill: the Gallipoli campaign was his idea, 120,000 allied deaths. Making a stand at Singapore was at his insistence and another 80,000 troops killed or captured. Not a good record for a heroic war time leader. OR, the My Lai massacre Lt William Calley was fêted as an after dinner speaker, the the man who stopped the killing was not recognized as a hero.
It's only when you have a strong opinion and can firmly stand on your own ground that you can tacle peer pressure. For someone who might be a bit insecure it's not easy. You do concider what "price" you have to pay for telling the truth.
And you become "that awkward guy".
@@rcfokker1630 yeah. But when you know you're right, "they" are the awkward ones and you be like "morons!". Who cares about them when you know you're right.
@@NovaLand omicron is an anagram for moronic
The "reviews" technique in online markets is a real life application of this. Even if one had different perception of a product, when they read the reviews that speak more of the opposite perception, it will likely change their original perception.
Many other experiments confirm the conclusions of Asche. Would seem to me that going along with the group is mostly a fear of standing up for what you see, but because perhaps there is some survival mechanism at work whereby even though they know they are not being honest, their survival in general is more guaranteed by being in line with the majority, that the impulse to survive outweighs the temporary dishonesty to self. Herd animals always go with the herd if possible as there is more safety in numbers vs being out there alone.
I think there's some lack of confidence in some cases you've got to be very sure of yourself to go against the crowd.
@@EmoBearRights In my opinion, it's indeed lack of confidence but also the capability to actually go against the crowd. If you're not that good at it, you'll be disregarded by the crowd or the crowd, as a whole, would go against you. If you are good enough to influence some, the crowd would be in chaos and left in confusion, while you are still at risk for starting it.
So I think that it isn't much about what is right or wrong for you, but what is right to be done for you and the crowd. Unless you could deal with the crowd completely and the best result for you is ensured (whatever the "best result" is for you), it is much safer to go with the crowd instead of against.
@@EmoBearRights bagaimana cara agar percaya diri untuk berbeda?
Survival mechanism that compels our social nature to stand above reason.
There’s an article in Simply Psychology that outlines the variations and how some different conclusions were found
Quick quote that relates, "If everybody agrees, then somebody isn't thinking."
I really thought i was going to be told that i was wrong in some way. What a video, beyond my expectations!
plz also show some of the criticisms of these experiments also, in the same video. Then we could have a better understanding.
This comment indicates how smart and critical thinker you are. Keep it up, most of these studies especially in physiology which is 150 years old need to be reviewed and tested and Questioned!
Conformity for me has not been an issue because I have always been sort of a loner. I remember in the 5th grade, there was this extremely poor girl named "Tonya" who was mercilessly picked on. She had lice and old clothes, etc.. I never participated in the bullying but I never really stopped it. One day a group of girls including myself were in the bathroom and Tonya walked in to use the bathroom. Tonya accidently tucked her dress in her panties. The other girls snickered and refused to tell her. I was the only girl to stand up and tell her "Hey your dress is tucked in your underwear" Tonya said thanks walked out the bathroom. After she left these 6 girls stared at me with hatred and told me I was stupid for telling her and then refused to talk to me for a week. These girls wanted me to apologize to them. Me not giving a dang what they thought was like "yeah, that is not happening" From that day I knew I was different, I said that if it feels wrong to me, it probably is wrong. I question everything and even if it makes me uncomfortable, I go against the grain. I am in an office full of religious zealots who have group think behavior. All of them agree that life starts at conception and that in cases of r@pe or incest a woman should still have the baby. I can assure you that must of these women don't believe and agree with most of the extreme abortion rhetoric and probably had a few abortions themselves but the need to fit in is greater than standing up for what they truly believe.
Agreed
You just made that story up, didn't you? You seem like the type.
It's IS groupthink sweety you think LIFE starts when the group tells you to "think" that! It's a matter of Biology sweetey, NOT politics! How many, "cases of r@pe or incest" were involved in the 50/50 Million babies murdered since Roe V Wade? But as is says in the good book, "There is a time & place for everything under the sun.: BUT NOT 450+ each & every day just in the Godless Hell bound, USA!
Go ahead and tell yourself that, sweetie. Abortion supporters will say almost anything to relieve themselves of guilt.
@@darkelf6983 What does that even mean
I would suggest Sprouts to think of opening a platform to teach lessons on psychology with longer videos.
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this video was just long enough< if you are dealing with sprouts, you could be dealing with short attention spans making a video doen't necessarily make it better!!!
I always stick by my own mind but then I am a loner. Part of the reason I am a loner though is because I won't swallow bullshit.
Very informative. Thanks! It's important to be aware of our predisposition to confirm to demands of peer pressure.
Right on!
I would like to believe that i would have stuck to the truth, at least for the majority of life. There may have been times when i could conform.
I think overall it is important for us as parents/educators, to share our life experiences with children/students,. Things that involve us sticking to the truth and also when we haven't, and may have conformed under certain circumstances. This gives them a chance to learn/understand that there are all sorts of possibilities they are not yet aware of. As this clip perfectly displays.
Thanks fior the video
I would really like to appreciate your content because it helped me alot for my psychology exam
We are glad! Thank you. Keep learning:)
I would not conform. I know this due to my teenage years, explicit activities in our middle school were common, and so was peer pressure. And I'm stubborn to a fault, the more aggressive a group or individual becomes, the more I look down on them for using such a primitive form of persuasion, so it gets easier. Not sure why this is.
Oh I am totally the same.
watching this I couldn't help but think about the vaccine/anti-vaccine arguments of the last 18-months
@pricelesscovent5867 Like getting Myocarditis lol
I'm fine with people finding modern life too "materislistic" but they don't pull off any miracles either just tell others how to feel
This rarely affect me, both offline and online. I am proud when I stand alone several times.
Excellent video. In my opinion, socioeconomic middle class people are more prone to this "peer pressure".
does this judgement make you judgemental?
A lot of cult recruiters found that their richest hunting grounds for recruits were University campuses. Universities are full of smart people with not an over abundance of good sense (due to lack of life experiences), which tends to make them rather vulnerable to smart operators.
As to your statement, agreed. They are the people still looking for their way upwards, where upper classes are already there and more likely to be leading the way (Alphas).
Many of the lower level people have simply given up on moving upwards and are just busy surviving. However they are more prone to the lower level get rich quick schemes like a sure bet on the horses or poker machines.
People who place their self values on the hands of others or some group identity will succumb to this. They will even condone harassment and abuse if it means they got to be part of such a group. I've seen it over and over again. 🌝
Milgram experiment is another one that shows similar effect, but on a higher lever. It was done after ww2 to show the human morality over authority. However, it shown the darker side of human psychology.
Hence my expression of derision when someone says 'the jury heard all the evidence'
I am usually not the one confirming. My parents follow Jainism and I was always told that it was a true perception of the universe but I always struggled to agree as their teachings were opposite of what I was being told in science books and shows. Finally I just looked at the evidence and concluded that while containing some facts, most of the teachings of Jainism is false and is not based on any empirical evidence. That day I became an agnostic atheist. Apart from this, I am a creative professional which is another thing that most people in India do not recommend as a career option. So I will conclude that while I listen to others' opinion, I follow my own mind.
Could it be that you followed your professors in school instead? Think about it.
The core philosophy of Jainism is itself agnostic.
In Asch's conformity experiment, honesty can be likened to holding a royal flush in poker-it's unbeatable. However, speaking the truth comes with the risk of being shunned by the group, especially in more traditional and conformist settings.
The Emperor Wears No Clothes
Yes 👍
Mob mentality, mass formation psychosis.
Me who never conformed on a single question, but also never got a single one correct...
I see this with a "zipper" traffic pattern situation. When the primary lane was switched, it seemed a stupid idea so I analyzed why they did that and realized it was so that it would prompt people to use both lanes. Everyone switched to going single file in the other lane. Wanting to make sure I wasn't wrong, I checked out DOT websites. They are excellent and confirmed my thoughts. I only used the empty lane and maybe had 1 or 2 others join me. I was sure others would start figuring it out but months later they were still single file. Sure of change when it became so blatently obvious how stupid it was for everyone to go single file, it's more than a couple years now. I am amazed. It's a long line, blocking people from a turn lane, and getting in the way or switching lanes back and forth at 2 intersections before. This video makes me wonder how many people see the absurdity of it but don't want to join us mavericks that cruise past all the cars that passed us earlier.
I've noticed this as well
There are few people that have their own sense of judgment.
Amazing explanation 😍😍
bruh yes, conformity i see it quite allot, its crazy to think about no matter how old or young you are how weird you might look doing the wrong thing. you are still willing to do it just to fit in
An OK experiment, though it is easy to conform or not to when you are surrounded by strangers that you will never see again. A better experiment would be to do it with your current co-workers or whatever group of people you are part of.
Values effect perception.
Thanks
I sir am a Black Atheist Negro of Haïtian descent I think that means non-conforming in English.
I been experimenting with my comments lately 😊😊😊
You're doing good!
At the very beginning of the video, I thought that the lines shown in the second picture were the same length as the lines shown in the first picture. The first of the lines in the second picture is at the back, the second is in the front, and the third is in line with the line in the first picture.
Is this why people in my region refer to a chicken noodle stew as "pot pie?" I've gotten a lot of flack for calling it "chicken stew." People have all kinds of rationalizations as to why we should continue calling it "pot pie" and why I am wrong for favouring "chicken stew" in my own speech. Surprisingly, these arguments are seldom "we do it out of tradition," which is honestly the only rational argument in the case of this linguistic kerfuffle. (In my own, humble opinion, at least.) What's more strange to me is the fire and vitriol with which so many people fight for this hill. We have bigger fish to fry, people! Let me call it chicken stew!
Swing and a miss, pal. Not why.
Is that what the white and gold and the monochrome dress pictures were about?
In a Soviet documentary called "Я и другие" ("Ya i drugije"/"The others and I") I saw some similar experiments on little kids. In the 1st one the scientist showed a white and a black pyramid to a group of kids, asked them to name the pyramids' colours, and there was a funny moment: after actor kids answered, "Both are white", the tested girl repeated after them, but when the scientist asked her to grab the black one, she did it without any problems
I think this experiment and this phrase "Both are white" (rus: obe belyje) even became a meme
If you are curious, here's the both-are-white part:
ua-cam.com/video/IekW1SjaYyQ/v-deo.html
And the whole documentary:
ua-cam.com/video/_LYe58b-3HM/v-deo.html
🙏🏻
4:07
the moment of happiness for the opponent group
This explains the last two years…
Certainly, saying what we think or observe is not always a good idea. For years I have been relegated to my job, where bosses prefer to hear that they have great ideas, before listening to possible failures.
Not distinguishing individuals by hormone levels makes us think we must all be similar. I would be interesting to match this theory with Helen Fisher's discoveries. I bet the conforming group has more cerotonin and less of others.
Great point! We will add her work to our lists of topics to work on
@@sprouts Thanks, I am incredibly happy with your work and recommend it to everyone in my circle, I did not expect an answer from you, for me Helen is fundamental to understanding life's behavior, it would be wonderful to have her theory here, thanks again!!!
@@julioprada Glad to hear that! The video will come - I promise! I try to answer to all sensible comments, but that's not always possible.
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It's as if this experiment is still occurring today
I continually read that it was only 50 volunteers. The video says 123?
I generally fall in non conformist. I've noticed it may not be 100% of the time. As I've gotten older, it's more 100%. There is some subconscious about it. 20 to 30% sounds about right. We see that in society today. Th 15% is really loud, however.
"Trans women are women." Prior to 2017, you'd have 100% of doctors and medical professionals confidently answer "No". Now? What is a woman?
Ain't that the truth. Considering most doctors are not dumb, their opinions behind closed doors will be different. Always follow the money, doctors conform because their livelihoods depend on it. That's why they prescribe medicines with huge side effects because it's part of the guidelines, they cannot be sued if they followed the "rule book"
Ok the awnser in the picture is wrong as you look at the single line you see it goes lower then the 3 line one so it should be B not C.
Yes?
due to pluralistic ignorance, we most of the time tend to agree with the majority in the fear of missing out...............
FOMO!
Somehow, I see the opposite oeffect more commonly in social media it seems that anonymity, negativity and the desire to be right can take priority over conformity.
conformity in social media is low compared to real life. in social media there is no direct effect of not conforming and it has promoted a culture of being right over conforming. however its quite opposite in social settings where an indivual definitely has to interact with a group with opposite belief
Basically the whole coof ordeal......
This sounds so familiar. Like…in the last few years
Willful ignorance is so rampant I go out of my way to be a contrarian.
If i get this correctly, the study showed that groups cannot put a significant amount of pressure to individuals, since only 5% were affected by peer pressure.... This is what i get from this, please correct me if i am mistaken, English is not my native language so i might get something wrong....
5% were always effected. 72% sometimes ;)
@@sprouts thnx for your reply! Yes, sometimes, but even then the percentage was significantly low... If i remember correctly, was it 1 out of 8 or 10?? So again the effect of groups affecting an individual remains at a lower level..
These type of studies are especially important today when these social media conglomerates have the ability to create the ILLUSION of public perception via “influencers” in order to alter public opinion. Ie. 2 genders or more
I guess that's how my parents managed to raise me religious...or, at least, an important part of it...
My comment is biased by the fact that I learned about Asch's Conformity Experiment in an attempt to find comfort for the real transformation process I have been going through during the last decade plus. After many years expressing different and lonely opinions, I decided to agree with the position of the majority, even though I am 100% sure it is wrong.
Please do not ask me what made me turn 180 degrees and join stupidity. I am approaching 60 years. Still a young boy in this world of uncertainty.
This experiment shows exactly why the world looks like it does. The people "in charge" know this & use it as a weapon.
man made globle worming
As an entrepreneur, I decided to use this in my favor. To convince my partners. Thank you Sprouts
That is manipulation.
“Mass lighting”
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Interesting
This video explains why families adopt religious beliefs.
Every single person that has ever existed adopts religious beliefs.
I would speak the truth.
C sure
I'm not a conformist, I'm a contrarian and an antagonist. The more people that agreed on the wrong answer, the more excited I would be to disagree with them. In fact, the more people agreed on the _right_ answer, the more I would want to examine the other, wrong answers to make sure they're really wrong. I love being the lone dissenting voice in the crowd that turns out to be right. I basically think I'm better than everyone else.
And that's with questions with obvious answers. Imagine when the answer isn't that clear.
I give you , Modern Politics and News Media
*Raise your hand, if you have not yet succumbed to the global Asch Conformity Experiment.* 🙋♂
... kill the useless eaters- an ongoing saga.
gotta love that people are taking themselves out due to their own freewill choices
I saw this happen in tiktok. The Hailey hate that is happening where people post "evidence" that Hailey is obsessed with Selena is getting out of hand that even if their so called "evidence" is made up, people still hated on Hailey even though they were not a fan of Selena or Justin. As of now, "evidence" of Selena's past posts were showing up specifically those where she seemed to be a bad person. For me, no one is completely innocent but none of them also deserves the hate because they are both women who Justin Bieber fell in love with (including Selena being his ex and Hailey being his wife). People are bored and obsessed on the lives of others but what can I say. They are celebrities.
It is quite messed up.
There are FOUR lights!
3:30 - Asch's experiment also showed that if just one other acting student responded correctly the effect of peer pressure decreased substantially. That is why there is so much pressure on us to conform, because the minute someone else says "Hey, wait a minute", the gig is up! ;-)
If a yellow shirt is it then idek
does it mean that the scientist conducted group gaslighting sessions?
Did the experiment have any records of somebody going rogue and answering with the other wrong answer? Lol
Among us in a nutshell
"Red sus"
ORANGE MAN BAD!
That is even worse
Orange man was a funny president.
Stuck to the truth.
Could this explain Fox news success?
Murdoch started his news business after the study was published.
'Science' has the same kind of effect on "well educated" people...
Could you do a vid on why the most intelligent people are also the ones that are fooled the easiest!?
Probably tell them that only the very smartest of people can "get it"; or that only simpletons would disbelieve it.
Intellectuals yet idiots you mean?
Maybe because some educated people are swayed by "facts". Because they seem to be solid enough they treat it as law
Change the incentive and check in again - $1,000 for getting the right answers when others are wrong 😑
This is how gender pronouns are spreading. Everyone so scared to stand up for the truth.
Huh?
The dead don't rise again either. Some belief systems are idealistic about defending the weak results may vary. Could we end up in a non binary world where you are the real outcast? Probably not.
This cloud explain the hype of flat earth.
Some people are definitely using this knowledge to push gender agenda
Politics personified across the world.
Only 5% is not a compelling result, surely.
Most of the commenters here claim to be non conformists.
Yet they all conform to the set trend of identifying as a non conformist.
Ok
FREE PALESTINE
I wouldn't participate.
That's why religions exist
flat earthers much?
Basically the pronoun movement.
This video explains everything about left US
The far left, leaning left and the centrists as well.
*all of US
I think it says far more about the right and the fact you can look at this and not realise you've been taken in by groupthink is depressing.
@@EmoBearRights xd
Ye shush
And this is why everyone believes that you can switch you gender, yayyyyyy
Three little people who are called confederates is all you nees to beileve something is true when its false. Wow.
Oops
*_cough_* the kung flu *_cough_*
An interesting study! I love psychology as a subject, never studied it myself but it’s really interesting to learn how people think.
Yes! Me too!
no, it isn’t interesting, it’s disheartening and frightening for the future of humanity.
@@Fred-ff6bv if I were a pessimist I would find getting out of bed disheartening too but unlike some I do not concern myself with the thought of others I merely like to understand how some may come to absurd or mislead conclusions.
Try to see things through others perspectives, remembering that our life experiences form our perception of the world. You may be shocked and fascinated.
@@daniels5709 i understand others prospectives and motivations very well just as this video explains. most people are motivated by self centric needs and wants rather than doing what is right. to use an extreme example, if a building was burning and someone’s dog and their enemy were both in the building, most people would try to save their dog before their enemy. there’s a conditioned flaw carried by the majority of the people in the united states and many other countries to follow their emotions (what they feel is right) rather than having a clear understanding of the unambiguous knowledge of what is actually right and wrong (good and evil if you will) to go with the crowd even though you know that the crowd is wrong is bad. it makes one a liar and a hypocrite. so the right action in my giving scenario is to save the human over the dog even if the human is your enemy and the dog is your favorite worth ridiculous amounts of money. and for the record, i’m not a pessimist, i am a very optimistic realist.
@Fred-ff6bv relax, it's not new or anything. People have always been this way, we are flawed, imperfect beings.
Try to find a therapist in 2023 who will openly contradict gender theory.
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Me!
I never got opportunity to study psychology but sprout school make it possible easily in short span.
Happy to hear that!
So much bad has happened just because people didn't withstand. So why haven't i been trained in school to withstand peer pressure?