Only 3 episodes into the series and we get a shake up like this. I feel it means we sorta have a responsibility to test nearly all of the brands out there now. Find out who's actually bringing the rippems. Our rankings here have been updated: etsy.me/3G8j3QK
I'd like to see the craftsman ratchet tested and maybe air ratchets too? I have an ingersoll rand air ratchet that is fairly beastly I think. It's 3/8 drive like the rest. I can get the model number later.
If you're looking for RPMs, Makita is claiming 800 rpms and 35lb-ft on their 12v and 20v ratchets. The anvil can be changed from 3/8 to 1/4. If it does what they claim it would be pretty good. Sometimes breaking a bolt loose by hand isn't practical. Would love to see a new test for the ratchet where you have a nut that is to tight to get off instead of getting it manually you spin the ratchet up and put it on while spinning. Also air ratchets and snapon electrics. Edit: the long neck ratchets are different tools from the standard and I feel like you're hurting the quality of the data (which is overall some of the best on youtube) by labling them as the standard size on the chart. Maybe they do perform exactly the same, but that can't be known that until they have been tested.
this is exactly why i respect your channel so much, because of the lack of industry standards, showing the proof in the pudding means a lot to us real world mechanics. We do not want to invest into tool propaganda and or hoaxes. Thank you for all the work you do in nailing down the scrap from the gold
I swear ever since this channel started taking off a lot of the tool trucks in my area have stopped the sale gimmick of “breakaway torque” on their impacts.
I've been a mechanic for 42 years. A Nissan mastertech. As a mechanic I can tell you those really long rachets just don't fit everywhere. My daughters gave me that Husky 3 years ago,( they both work at Home Depot lol), I used it everyday for 3 years! It's actually awesome. It fits almost everywhere my snap-on rachets do and running nuts and bolts off, even rusty one,( I live in NY , we use a lot of salt on the roads, is just so much easier. Frankly I was surprised how well it works. Just used it yesterday to build a giant backyard playground at my son's house. Plus it's usually on sale. I think it was 70 dollars last time. I love it!.
@@gearjunkie3402 I use that husky one as well as the two snapon ones (long reach and shorter 3/8 - both 75ft lbs). I've found that little husky can squeeze into some really odd areas my snapons can't. However, if you want to break your wrist or fingers from insane torque coming out of those, the 2 snapons are the way to go lol.
@@strikeforcek9149 I have snap-on air rachet too which can smack your hand against things if you're not careful. Also have an Ingersoll impact air rachet which is more powerful than anything I've seen but it's so loud , lol, l don't use it anymore.
I recently got the Hercules extended rear 3/8 with a 4ah battery and I honestly have no complaints, just used it to install some coil overs on my car and it did everything I need it to do which is remove bolts quickly not rip the bolts loss like my bigger impact does
I feel you should add stoppages to the score somehow. Speaking for myself i would be waaay more comfortable with a slower but consistent tool rather then the one that randomly stops so i have to take it off the nut and wait for the brainbox to start spinning the drive again. The second one will be yote in the trash within days.
Not a bad idea, but the only occurrence of a stoppage they've had so far was in a tool that already sits at the bottom of the list. It's definitely a quality that would keep me from buying it, but if someone sees that final ranking chart and is considering still buying that tool, they probably deserve its inferior user experience.
Agreed. The stoppages should just be counted in the total time because that's still how long it took to finish. Maybe give it two or three runs in total, then average it out for a scoring time. It seems the Durofix is so bad in this regard it doesn't just stall, it actually turns off such that you have to remove the battery to reset it? I can't imagine it hitting overtemp on such a small run, but maybe that's happening. Either way definite dealbreaker with this tool. Durofix needs to...fix that lol.
I just bought the Hercules Extended reach. I retired from the Navy 11-92 and I retired A&P mechanic from a MRO. I used it to get a Hard to reach bolts on my Harley Davidson. Works good to me.
TTC is easily one of my favorite channels now. Call me silly if you want but it gives me a little spark of joy every time I hear you use the terminology (I guess some would call it "lingo" or "jargon") that I started to think nobody else used. Beans, ugga duggas, rippems, buggered, convince, gorilla, torture, all of these terms have a different meaning on the shop floor than they do anywhere else and I love hearing you guys use them 'properly' ^_^ P.S. Let's see some more sockets and bits get tortured. Seems like there's an endless amount of probably and most definitely gimmicky sets out there that need to prove their worth.
I think I paid around $100 for mine. I like it the best because there is no battery to worry about pushing against with my hand. I don't use my Milwaukee anymore because the Husky is better for my application.
I picked my Husky up for $65 on sale at Home Depot and I've beat the heck out of it! The battery lasts quite a while on it and I wish Husky would make a long head version of it. It's definitely not a bad choice at that price if you can catch a sale, but even at full price it doesn't seem like a bad choice.
I picked the husky up with a socket set for $49 a couple years back. It’s a good tool for the dollar. Great home mechanic tool. The battery last for days of use.
I have 4 herc ratchets, short and long 1/4 and 3/8. Use them about daily as an auto repair mechanic. They have performed great for about 5 months now other than I managed to twist the long 1/4 socket holder off when pulling a 455 pontiac at a salvage yard. Transmission crossmember bolts were tight!
I have the herc long reach ratchets in both 1/4 and 3/8. They have been great so far. For the price it’s hard to beat them. The smaller head size has been very beneficial a few times.
455 Pontiac -- what a classic. My first engine swap (at 16 y/o) was a 1967 Firebird. Pulled 6 cyl OHC and install 455. It felt like the fastest car in town. We had some fun and sold it a year later. The guy that bought it said, "Wait a minute, the secondaries aren't opening." He fixed it on the spot, and unleashed a hidden DRAGON. We drove that car a year with only the Quadrajet primaries 😆.
I would LOVE to see the Skil 12v cordless ratchet tested. I saw the where the Skil 12v right angle impact driver performed VERY well. I hope the ratchet does equally as well.
I have the same Hercules long neck and love it. The price is good and the head is compact to squeeze up into tighter areas. It does stick out like a sore thumb among all my Milwaukee and Snap On cordless tools, but I'm happy with it
Look man I don't really care how my harbor freight cordless ratchet specs out in these tests, I'm just happy when there are nuts and bolts I can reach with it. I've gone so far as engineering three different sized extensions and two swivels to get on a bolt that a wrench could easily reach. That's what makes my day, I get all excited about it when I don't have to wrench on things manually. If it takes an extra 6 seconds to take that bolt out, I'm good, because otherwise it would take me five minutes with a wrench.
I’ve had the husky for over 3 years. It has worked flawlessly, the battery life is excellent. It was $60 new when I bought it. I have used on trucks, cars, bobcat skid steer, mini excavator. Just all around handy. Mainly saves time from using a hand ratchet.
The long reach wrenches are a God send and a must have item in the toolbox. I purchased mine in order to get at out of the way fasteners. I don't use mine as a torque wrench but rather as a "high speed" wrench which is was designed for.
I got the husky as a Christmas gift and I love the thing it may not be as fast but it works well. Best thing about it is the battery seems to last forever. Grant it I don't use it everyday but I do use it a lot, fixing my car at home or assembling furniture and what not and that battery lasted me about 6 months before needing to recharge it. Definitely a good little tool for diy guys.
I bought a husky 2 years ago as a entry level racket for mobile automotive repair and it's awesome, may not break every nut loose but it spins them off and saves my wrist.
I own the 3/8 fuel and the 3/8 extended reach fuel I also own the AC Delco 3/8 extended reach and AC Delco 1/4 and my first choice is almost always the extended reach AC Delco because it has a much smaller profile and get into hard to reach places better than the fuel
I really just like to use these (the long neck versions) for running bolts in and out that are hard to reach. They are very effective at saving your hands in tight spaces. I bought a "KIMO" brand one last year and it's been one of the most useful tools in my garage. Never expected much power from it, but it does a surprisingly good job at breaking loose small/moderate hardware.
Loving the ratchet content, I just replaced the shocks on my Toyota Tacoma and my most used tool was my short head Ryobi cordless ratchet. I even used it with a 3/8 to 1/2 inch adapter because I didn’t have a 19mm in 3/8 drive and it did great. I’ve used it for over a year now and it’s never disappointed me. Just put it on a nut and start smacking the battery and it’ll do the job of a breaker bar if I’m too lazy to go grab one (this happens quite often). If a bolt is torqued to less than 80 ft-lbs then I’ll just use the Ryobi instead of needing a bar.
I bought the Husky on a whim, because I had a gift card and it was on sale. I think I got it for $59. It’s not a pro tool, so it really doesn’t compare to the higher end brands. But for stuff around my house it has performed admirably. I like it for the value and it’s compact size. After a year the battery is still going strong, I charge it every two weeks or so and has never died on me.
I have the husky as well. Got it on a simulator deal and used it extensively rebuilding the 1.6 in my Miata it worked for all I needed and only charged it once the whole rebuild
The Hercules is a underrated tool especially with its quarter inch Drive mechanical head and 3/8 Drive output . I can see a lot of people being disappointed in this tool because they exceeded its mechanical limitations being a 3/8 Drive with more less 1/4" drive guts . I personally own this tool in 1/4" drive as well as 3/8 and have been very happy with it as its very comfortable tool to use as far as balance and feel. It does slow down and struggle with Rusty fasteners but I mainly uses for tight access areas as well as general use and have had very good luck with it . I recently did a conversion on my 2559-20 with the high-speed 3/8 anvil and swapping the pawl but at $239 plus $40 for a Anvil set I think the Hercules has it beat especially if you buy the warranty. Bwt Milwaukee conversion on the extended 1/4" ratchet 2559-20 is the cat's ass.
Max (in Utah), thanks for sending in your Hercules ratchet for them to test! Good solid testing on the rachets. I wonder how Makita will do on the next video...
I picked the Husky up on sale for $65 at Home Depot after watching Project Farm's ratchet test. It's nice to see the purchase wasn't in vain! I absolutely love the thing and it's got enough "beans" for my work as a home mechanic. I'd absolutely buy it at the $95 price point as well if I were to do it again... and I might! My dad loves the thing, too and he was a mechanic for years. If you need/want a cheap, knockaround cordless ratchet from a brand-name, you really can't go wrong with it, imo.
@@Modine. brother Im a mechanic. I know what works and what doesn’t work. These channels don’t really get to use them out in the real world. Snapon is the best for cause they just work and work well! Milwaukee was a big let down.
I got one of the husky’s when they had them on sale for $60, for the size and battery capacity it’s hard to beat, real world it runs fasteners on or off fast and the battery lasts a long time, It’ll go all day without a problem, charge it at night and you’re good to go the next morning. It’s not gonna drive a lag bolt, break a wheel stud loose or zip fasteners off super fast but if you’re sticking your arm in an awkward spot one handed with your tongue in just the right position trying to remove a fastener it’s a good tool for the job
These tests are very informative, and I really enjoy them. I do believe that a scoring system normalized by cost would be more useful. Someone buying a tool for his profession will not care too much about price but a weekend mechanic really wants the best value. Beyond this, the most important things are durability and warranty/service. The latter of these is only subjective since we only have owner reports on forums to go by.
That husky ratchet is an absolute gem hiding in plain sight. I had used one for about a year before i bought into m12. It never let me down, and it was a pleasant surprise. A great buy, even when not on sale
Yeah I went to home depot not intending on getting a cordless ratchet and walked out with it on sale for 60ish. One of the best purchases ever and i knew nothing about it, just took a chance. Good little tool.
CTR768 Brute from Snap-On. It's 125 rpm, but 70ft-lbs. It is a brushed motor but it has that gear reduction to increase its torque at the expense of RPM.
It'd be really interesting to see a comparison of tool truck brands. If you guys eventually do that, I'd be willing to loan you my 14.4V Snap On standard neck. It's supposed to be 250rpm and I think 65ftlb.
@suspicionofdeceit I don't loan anything I can't afford to lose, but if your tools tend to disappear when you loan them you're loaning then to the wrong people. More often than I get my stuff back, unless it's broken then it tends to get replaced. Your comment read like TTC was stealing people's tools. Which I found hard to believe .
I love my high speed Milwaukee… I bought it as soon as I knew it was getting released last year. A small head is why everyone loves the none fuel version which is why the fuel high speed is a near perfect cordless ratchet because not only is the head small it can zip bolts on and off at a lightning pace. Honestly electric ratchets are only for assembly or disassembly with a little physical nudge to loosen up bolts so torque is pointless in those times. If you have the space just zip stuff off will a compact impact.
I personally own the hercules because for me the extended reach and small head on the tool allows it to fit in wayy more tight spaces compared with the milwaukee.
With the 2Ah battery it's very well balanced too. I have the 2557 (std. length, std. speed) Fuel, and not only is the head bulky it's also very heavy on that side. The Herc with the 2Ah battery is a couple hundred grams heavier than the M12 *w/o* a battery, but the Herc actually *feels* lighter in the hand by comparison. Just got the Herc but have a feeling I will be using it much more than the Milwaukee.
@AJ Kongmanichanh the right angle impact is by far my favorite tool, sure it sucks you have to buy 2 tools but it has saved my ass on multiple occasions
With many of us invested in Makita batteries I am surprised you don't have a blue specimen, yet. I suggest the Makita XRW01Z as a versatile choice as the included 1/4 insert allows smaller sockets in tight places like under dashboards, etc. The insert system would also allow folks to create specialized inserts if needed and still have tight quarters ability without the endless adapters needed. If Makita doesn't offer a 1/4 HEX insert soon then I will make one. While I applaud your testing criteria to included as much info as possible - I urge folks not to lose focus of what these tools are for. Also, I encounter many times when there is almost ZERO room to swing a ratchet so tooth count/granularity is an important datum. What good is a course ratchet when I can't move enough to catch the next tooth? Anyway, great channel!
I broke my Milwaukee and I bought the hurcules in a pinch I’ve been using it in a professional setting for 6 months no issues I love how cheap the batteries are too
and the snapon never gets a look in, in the past its been the only one you can reliably rebuild...but at the minute the parts are forcing me to try other ones, i ended up witha sealey 10.8v cos it came with a kit of baby impact etc and im only doing bikes at the minute.
I used ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
Before watching. Ill just say this. I have the same Hercules and love it. Have ran it next to m fuel and might not be the same but does what this shade tree needs. Oh and speed wise. Maybe you cover it but the herc I can get turning so slow i can calmly count the 1/4 turns
Before I watch. I got the husky electric rachet for home use. They wanted $160cad for it, but the dude at the till gave it to me for $85 when I said I wasn't paying that much. What a game changer. I love using the damn thing
I will say I absolutely love my husky impact ratchet. I had a earthquake ratchet that someone stole while I was working so I picked up the husky from home Depot and never looked back. I use mine literally everyday all day. Never any battery life issues etc. Will gladly buy another when it goes out(if ever at this rate lol)
3 years ago I broke my Milwaukee mandrel (non brushless) so I picked up a Husky for $65 on sale around Christmas to get me by until the replacement parts came in. It was months later until I actually installed the replacement mandrel on the Milwaukee because there was surprisingly little difference. I also never ran the battery down in a single day in a professional setting. Two other guys in the shop ran down and picked up the last few in stock after borrowing it and using it. For $65 at the time was an amazing deal.
I love my M12 3/8dr ratchet. I do mobile mechanic work. It has its perks I also have the M12 drimmel with 2amp,4amp and 6amp batteries. I use a dewalt XR 1/2 high torque with 2 5amp batteries for suspension.
I've had the durofix/acdelco arw1201 57ftlb ratchet for a few years and I've been pretty happy with it. Haven't felt the need to switch to Milwaukee even though I already use M12 tools. Especially considering the difference in their cost.
The Durofix is excellent for small 5mm/6mm diameter threaded bolts what it was meant for. Plus it is way more compact and gets in tight places. I got the A/C delco other tools (Durofix) and work great.
I have a Makita XRW01Z and I have been pretty happy with it, but I have always felt it could be a lot better. The air ratchets (like the Astro 1128 and AirCAT 805-HT) are the only other powered ratchets I have and for comparison I think the noise of the pneumatics might make it sound like they do more than they really do. I would love to see how the Makita LXT stacks up. I am heavy into their system and I know several of their other tools are rather low in the pack. I only have one plumbing tool in Milwaukee, but am impressed by the DeWalt performance, too. If Makita keeps losing, I might need to start investing in another brand.
I have a snap on 3/8” cordless and the lower torque (35ftlbs.) 1/4” Milwaukee. On paper the snap on blows my Milwaukee out of the water, obviously. But, the snap on’s only good quality is the RPM, that’s it. Barely any power to break loose a fastener from a dead stop so, you have to fudge it by getting it going them cram the tool on the fastener or break it free manually. It doesn’t have fine tooth gears which sucks when needing to manually break a fastener loose in tight quarters. My 1/4” Milwaukee has impressed me for it being the lower torque model. Finer gears in the ratcheting mechanism make it nice manually breaking free fasteners in tight quarters. Speed is acceptable with the larger M12 battery.
Love these ratchet videos and I cant wait for more brands of ratchets to be tested. That being said I would lo e to see some 1/4" impacts tested, matco has a popular one that claims only 60 ft-lbs I believe, and milwaukee makes one almost the exact same size that claims 100 ft-lbs. I work in collision repair and from what I've seen these 1/4" impacts are the most used impacts in the body shop. Also I have heard that the matco and makita 1/4" are the same impact branded differently, I would love to know I thats true
I own both of those 1/4 guns and can tell you the Milwaukee is definitely stronger and a lot faster, that being said I would like to see numbers to see by how much
This is about what I expected from the husky, decent enough, especially for the price. I have considered getting something with a replaceable battery, but find that I don't use it enough in a day to warrant replacing it. Especially since I got it for $50 iirc. That said, I'd like to see the makitas, since I bought into that ecosystem and the convertible 1/4 to 3/8 head looks like a nice feature.
This is such a niche tool for me and I've never been a fan of the husky but it actually seems perfect for what I'd use it for, sitting in the van for a few months then pulling it out again for a small job. The inbuilt battery is nice, feels less like they're trying to get me to buy into another battery platform
Awesome--was hoping to see these tested and you did! :) Problem with extended reach ratchets is the top tier brands' are all very expensive. I have an M12 2557 but the extended 2560 is just way too pricey, and never comes on promos to "hack" it lower. Looking around, came down to three models which were affordable for a DIYer--the same Durofix, the AC Delco ARW1218, and the Hercules. The Delco can be had at a pretty good price in a combo *with* the standard length *and* a free 4Ah battery (which Durofix/Delco *does* have now), but the killer was the Delco has a *non-variable* paddle--it's either on or off. The Durofix is more expensive, doesn't come with the free 4Ah battery, but has a variable trigger and the lofty specs. But I watched another video and it was pretty clear it was not performing nearly as well as claimed, so not surprising you found the same. Glad I knocked that one off the list! Ended up with the Hercules--bought yesterday with the 25% coupon--it wouldn't stack with the tool/batt/charger discount so I bought them separately (tool, 2Ah, charger) totalling ~$116 pre-tax . Based on your results here I think I made a good choice--solid bang for the buck for an extended :) On a side note I would have probably gotten the Ryobi HP instead *if* the 3/8" had come in the Ryobi Days promo (able to "hack" for a lower tool price) but for some reason only the 1/4" was offered in there, so it got knocked off the list as well.
I've had the Husky that came with a set of regular and deepwell sockets that I paid $59.99 for since the day before it technically came out at home depot on Christmas a few years ago. Saw it online, drove to HD, took one to the register and when it didn't ring up I showed the lady their site on my phone and she punched it in. Rung me out and I've been beating on it ever since. Holds a good charge for a built in battery
Just found the channel and loving it so far. Great to see someone exploring and answering the questions everyone thinks about in the shop, but doesn't usually take the time to test. Any plans for testing standard drills without impact for torque claims?
@@TorqueTestChannel Awesome! I'm very curious to see the RPM vs torque curves on them. Keep up the awesome work. If you every need any machined parts for a project, let me know. I'd be happy to put some of my time towards the channel.
I'm actually very, very impressed with that Hercules tool with it being almost half the price of the competition. For your torque tests I'd make a suggestion, however. You need to brace the tool so it doesn't move at all. You holding it during the torque test makes it so that your hand/arm absorbs a lot of the energy.
@@xvx897 Yes. I understand what you're saying. Real world numbers are important, but seeing as to how the scoring system is based off of manufacturers torque numbers it makes it fair in that department. They most certainly brace the tool when testing them in house.
That really depends just because you pay more doesn't mean a tool is better take snap ons power tools vs Milwaukee for what snap on wants for 1 you can own 2 with 2 batteries and 2 chargers. Sometimes less is better (milwaukee).
Well then you have Milwaukee--high price (relative to other "retail store brands"), [usually] great performance, and very good quality. But, they have the *absolute worst* warranty and customer support I've ever come across personally--not worth the paper it's written on! That said, I haven't dealt with that many power tool brands' warranties. A guy I worked with, his dad runs a construction company and said a lot of these "pro" brands are like that though--warranty is a pain. You may have to pay a few extra bucks for an HF warranty past 90 days, but should you do that, you just take the tool and they swap it for a new one with basically no questions asked. Milwaukee, they pretend to give you a "5yr warranty" but you have to jump through a bunch of hoops--take a day off work (because of the severely limited hours and days of operation of the places you have to go), run around to like 3-4 different places (all of which tell you they don't *actually* do Milwaukee warranty work despite Milwaukee saying otherwise)...and then finally have Milwaukee tell you it's "not covered" under warranty in the end anyway 🙄I would actually rather pay HF $20 or so for a couple years' of no-questions warranty and actually *have* that warranty (or just understand there is no warranty after 90 days otherwise), than even think about Milwaukee "warranty" again. I'll still buy Milwaukee at times, but with the understanding there's no warranty at all.
@@rolandm9750 I know guys who in the shop who had their milwaukee just stop working. They sent it in. Within 2weeks they had brand new one. I don't know of a single person who hasn't got another milwaukee tool within the first 2 weeks if their tool was still under warranty. Snap on is the real joke had to warranty 2 tools from them clowns and it's been 2months and still have got shit back. And the return was shipping by Milwaukee was paid for all they did was send it in.
I love using the Husky for things like putting furniture together and working on scooters, mini bikes and lawn equipment but I wish it had a removable battery and came with 1 or 2 extra so you could use it continuously.
I think we should see the original brushed Milwaukee. It would give a brushed vs brushless direct comparison. I also would be willing to bet that it's the one that the most people have, given how old it is and how it's almost always one of the "free tools" on Home Depot's sales.
I think I used the husky for a whole year before I took the charger out of plastic bag. Given the jobs were only 2 - 10 minutes each and maybe used every other month, it was still impressive.
I've been wanting a 1/4 long reach and I've had pretty good luck with the original Milwaukee 3/8 plus I already have batteries and chargers. The compact head on the Hercules is very tempting though. I'm just hesitant to rely on it holding up to daily use
I own the husky, bought it for 50$ around November two years ago. It’s not a bolt buster but I bought to tighten 5/16” bolts from 80 to 400 maybe drops to one of 3 light bars. Also those other guys are too long for the limited spaces I get into.
Just striped 3 3/8 tapcons this morning with the 1/2". Out come the cordless ratchet to the rescue. I think head size is the most important for cordless ratchets.
I'd love to see the plain Jane m12 brushed Milwaukee to see where it stands up. They include it in so many different kits for promos or bonuses. I like it for my farm/professional homeowner duties; but I've wondered if the fuel ones are worth the extra cheddar Thanks TTC!
I'm an air compressor mechanic by trade and have owned both. I have small hands and prefer the brushed model. I gave the larger more powerful brushless model to my son, a big strapping lad who works on heavy equipment.
The Hercules didn't seem bad for the price, even though it was bottom middle, I feel it could be a respectable medium use tool. And its cheaper than the Durofix. As a maintenance mechanic or someone at home, I think it would be a good buy.
I had the hyper tough extended ratchet and broke it at about 50-60 ft-lbs using it manually. I bought the replacement plan and they gave me another one with batteries and let me keep the old batteries. I gave it to my kids and got the Milwaukee and that can take as much torque as I can put on it. (not the extended one) You get what you pay for, but if you use a manual ratchet or breaker bar on everything, the battery assistance is still saving you a dramatic amount of time.
Non fuel m12 pretty please!!! I feel like that with how they are included in so many kits as a freebie but are priced at $149 vs $179 for either of the fuels, is it worth it. Also would like to see how much hand applied torque it could withstand since that seems to be the weak point on it. Project farm tested the rpm on it and it was above advertised, around 500 rpm (no load) if I recall correctly. Great video as always! Keep up the great work.
Yeah, I know when I bought mine a lot of recommendationa we're for the non-fuel m12 as it's just so much easier to fit in different places than the fuel. Torque obviously is less, but still comparable to the low-buck ones in this episode. Have heard some complaints about it being fragile, so the manual test could be illuminating. Almost should split up the long ratchets from the short ones (kind of like the different torque categories for impacts) as there's a good chance you might want both for different jobs.
I got a tiny 7.2v 1/4 AC delco for taking bumpers off in the body shop. I was surprised when I can strip the whole front end, breaking free big bolts too, the body is nice and rigid.
was glad the hercules performed as well as it did since i'm thinking about grabbing their 12v screw driver, drill/driver, and impact driver for general around the house stuff since the 20v are way larger and heavier, not that i'm conplaining just wanting tools that better fit the needs. and to be additionally fair, i rarely need what the 20v can do, it's really only needed when i work on my car.
You should do an Amazon special for ratchets, just like you did with the torque wrenches. All those same brands too, Aoben, Avid Power, Kimo, etc. Are they be worth the risk to save a few cents? (I'm assuming not, but it'll make for an entertaining episode nonetheless)
TTC, as you point out, the no-load RPM is a meaningless performance number. But since it is listed on the box, it would be interesting to measure it, just to see if, or how badly, each manufacturer is lying. (If you already did this I missed it.)
Yeah PF tests the no-load RPM so if it's one tested on that channel, you might be able to see the result there. But the use of nylocks is interesting because then you could have a standard test both ways--test the no-load RPM, then test the RPM driving a same-size nylock nut to give a "load RPM" number as well.
I personally have the husky and only use it on small automotive screws and bolts. On larger hardware I use my ryobi 3/8 impact or 1/2 impact on lug nuts.
Large batteries inhibit the attraction of ratchets. The small and compact 1.5ah battery of my M12 allows me to get to places my fat hands and fingers can't freely move. If I need more sustained torque or speed, then I'm using a different tool. Short and quick then off the trigger. Remember, these are not designed for lug nuts(torque) or deck screws(rpm).
You could probably use the pinched lock nuts that have the crimped in top to act like a rusted fastener and add some resistant. Not sure if the pinched nut will have more resistant then a nylon
That Durofix is probably cutting out due to overload/overheat protection, my Ingersoll Rand does it to protect the motor from burning out on fasteners that require too much torque for it to handle. But the Durofix doing it on a bolt that is already spinning is a bad sign.
Torque is not the reason to by a power ratchet. In fact I prefer lower torque in my power ratchets than higher. I also prefer a lower RPM rachet so I don't slam steel bolts into aluminum threads. The paddle trigger is very easy to feather on the Hercules. Clearances are everything when it comes to power ratchets; if you can't physically fit the tool into the given space, it doesn't matter how good the specs are. I use the Hercules in my shop every day and love it. You really shouldn't be using a power ratchet on anything much beyond 20-30ft/lbs on any modern car or aluminum assembly. Side note: all ratchets are cordless, but not all are powered.
Thanks for this testing series. I'm sure most of us have been waiting for you guys to test ratchets. I have the Milwaukee high speed and the Husky. I like the Husky for its simplicity and wish their were a long reach version. The Milwaukee is great with ideal conditions but will slow down dramatically when it sees trouble. Overall a great ratchet but will require hand turning in a professional environment.
That husky is a awesome cheap durable electric ratchet. The down side is the charger. If the provided charger breaks like mine did good luck just trying to buy the charger. My ratchet still works after using it in industrial construction for 4 years but it’s useless now because I can’t charge it.
Brushed motors do suffer directly and dramatically from an increased load compared to brushless. As the speed decreases, brushless can compensate with increased torque as its back-emf is reduced which allows it to draw more current from the esc
You need to review the Walmart Hyper Tough cordless tools. I use both the cordless ratchet and brushless cordless impact driver at work and I’m doing mechanic work all day. I love these tools, they were cheap and they haven’t let me down at all. All my other co-workers are using Milwaukee. I didn’t feel like spending $300 dollars on 1 tool. And I feel like I’m doing the same if not better with the hyper tough than the Milwaukee
Only 3 episodes into the series and we get a shake up like this. I feel it means we sorta have a responsibility to test nearly all of the brands out there now. Find out who's actually bringing the rippems. Our rankings here have been updated: etsy.me/3G8j3QK
I'd like to see the craftsman ratchet tested and maybe air ratchets too? I have an ingersoll rand air ratchet that is fairly beastly I think. It's 3/8 drive like the rest. I can get the model number later.
What's the turn around time if I lend you my Makita ratchet with a 2ah battery?
If you're looking for RPMs, Makita is claiming 800 rpms and 35lb-ft on their 12v and 20v ratchets. The anvil can be changed from 3/8 to 1/4. If it does what they claim it would be pretty good.
Sometimes breaking a bolt loose by hand isn't practical. Would love to see a new test for the ratchet where you have a nut that is to tight to get off instead of getting it manually you spin the ratchet up and put it on while spinning.
Also air ratchets and snapon electrics.
Edit: the long neck ratchets are different tools from the standard and I feel like you're hurting the quality of the data (which is overall some of the best on youtube) by labling them as the standard size on the chart. Maybe they do perform exactly the same, but that can't be known that until they have been tested.
We'll be doing Makita at some point gents, no doubt.
I'd like to see Walmart's Hart brand just to see how bad it is
this is exactly why i respect your channel so much, because of the lack of industry standards, showing the proof in the pudding means a lot to us real world mechanics. We do not want to invest into tool propaganda and or hoaxes. Thank you for all the work you do in nailing down the scrap from the gold
I swear ever since this channel started taking off a lot of the tool trucks in my area have stopped the sale gimmick of “breakaway torque” on their impacts.
Proof in the pudding cups ? Don't go bringing politics into this channel
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I've been a mechanic for 42 years. A Nissan mastertech. As a mechanic I can tell you those really long rachets just don't fit everywhere. My daughters gave me that Husky 3 years ago,( they both work at Home Depot lol), I used it everyday for 3 years! It's actually awesome. It fits almost everywhere my snap-on rachets do and running nuts and bolts off, even rusty one,( I live in NY , we use a lot of salt on the roads, is just so much easier. Frankly I was surprised how well it works. Just used it yesterday to build a giant backyard playground at my son's house. Plus it's usually on sale. I think it was 70 dollars last time. I love it!.
yup i have that one . bought it for 65 bucks. works great . i looked at others but they were all too bulky.
@@ronblack7870 exactly!
I'm a heavy equipment tech I can see where those longhead electric ratchets can come in handy cough cough bobcat drive belts
@@gearjunkie3402 I use that husky one as well as the two snapon ones (long reach and shorter 3/8 - both 75ft lbs).
I've found that little husky can squeeze into some really odd areas my snapons can't. However, if you want to break your wrist or fingers from insane torque coming out of those, the 2 snapons are the way to go lol.
@@strikeforcek9149 I have snap-on air rachet too which can smack your hand against things if you're not careful. Also have an Ingersoll impact air rachet which is more powerful than anything I've seen but it's so loud , lol, l don't use it anymore.
I recently got the Hercules extended rear 3/8 with a 4ah battery and I honestly have no complaints, just used it to install some coil overs on my car and it did everything I need it to do which is remove bolts quickly not rip the bolts loss like my bigger impact does
I feel you should add stoppages to the score somehow. Speaking for myself i would be waaay more comfortable with a slower but consistent tool rather then the one that randomly stops so i have to take it off the nut and wait for the brainbox to start spinning the drive again. The second one will be yote in the trash within days.
Exactly
I agree. Even just noting the number of stops would be helpful. Perhaps adding 5 points per stop would be fair?
Yote? Past tense of yeet? Lol
Not a bad idea, but the only occurrence of a stoppage they've had so far was in a tool that already sits at the bottom of the list. It's definitely a quality that would keep me from buying it, but if someone sees that final ranking chart and is considering still buying that tool, they probably deserve its inferior user experience.
Agreed. The stoppages should just be counted in the total time because that's still how long it took to finish. Maybe give it two or three runs in total, then average it out for a scoring time. It seems the Durofix is so bad in this regard it doesn't just stall, it actually turns off such that you have to remove the battery to reset it? I can't imagine it hitting overtemp on such a small run, but maybe that's happening. Either way definite dealbreaker with this tool. Durofix needs to...fix that lol.
I just bought the Hercules Extended reach. I retired from the Navy 11-92 and I retired A&P mechanic from a MRO. I used it to get a Hard to reach bolts on my Harley Davidson. Works good to me.
TTC is easily one of my favorite channels now. Call me silly if you want but it gives me a little spark of joy every time I hear you use the terminology (I guess some would call it "lingo" or "jargon") that I started to think nobody else used. Beans, ugga duggas, rippems, buggered, convince, gorilla, torture, all of these terms have a different meaning on the shop floor than they do anywhere else and I love hearing you guys use them 'properly' ^_^
P.S. Let's see some more sockets and bits get tortured. Seems like there's an endless amount of probably and most definitely gimmicky sets out there that need to prove their worth.
I remember picking up that huskey ratchet for $50 and it came with a small socket set. Insane deal, I wish they could bring that back
I found it on clearance for $29
I think I paid around $100 for mine. I like it the best because there is no battery to worry about pushing against with my hand. I don't use my Milwaukee anymore because the Husky is better for my application.
How about a cordless ratchet from Amazon? Low cost too! ua-cam.com/video/o8rV1L4Jf4k/v-deo.html
Wow that Hercules with such a tiny head is what I am really interested in. Thanks!
I picked my Husky up for $65 on sale at Home Depot and I've beat the heck out of it! The battery lasts quite a while on it and I wish Husky would make a long head version of it. It's definitely not a bad choice at that price if you can catch a sale, but even at full price it doesn't seem like a bad choice.
I love mines 2
I picked the husky up with a socket set for $49 a couple years back. It’s a good tool for the dollar. Great home mechanic tool. The battery last for days of use.
@TTC This is the info the people need! Ive looked at most of these ratchets and have wondered which to get. Now I know!
I have 4 herc ratchets, short and long 1/4 and 3/8. Use them about daily as an auto repair mechanic. They have performed great for about 5 months now other than I managed to twist the long 1/4 socket holder off when pulling a 455 pontiac at a salvage yard. Transmission crossmember bolts were tight!
I have the herc long reach ratchets in both 1/4 and 3/8. They have been great so far. For the price it’s hard to beat them. The smaller head size has been very beneficial a few times.
455 Pontiac -- what a classic. My first engine swap (at 16 y/o) was a 1967 Firebird. Pulled 6 cyl OHC and install 455. It felt like the fastest car in town. We had some fun and sold it a year later. The guy that bought it said, "Wait a minute, the secondaries aren't opening." He fixed it on the spot, and unleashed a hidden DRAGON. We drove that car a year with only the Quadrajet primaries 😆.
@@hightttech lol, nice! This one was in a 71 Bonneville, going in a 73 trans am clone
I would LOVE to see the Skil 12v cordless ratchet tested. I saw the where the Skil 12v right angle impact driver performed VERY well. I hope the ratchet does equally as well.
I have the same Hercules long neck and love it. The price is good and the head is compact to squeeze up into tighter areas. It does stick out like a sore thumb among all my Milwaukee and Snap On cordless tools, but I'm happy with it
I'm heavily invested in m12 and m18 but the tiny head on the hercules looks like it could be really useful, especially since it's pretty inexpensive.
Look man I don't really care how my harbor freight cordless ratchet specs out in these tests, I'm just happy when there are nuts and bolts I can reach with it. I've gone so far as engineering three different sized extensions and two swivels to get on a bolt that a wrench could easily reach. That's what makes my day, I get all excited about it when I don't have to wrench on things manually. If it takes an extra 6 seconds to take that bolt out, I'm good, because otherwise it would take me five minutes with a wrench.
I’ve had the husky for over 3 years. It has worked flawlessly, the battery life is excellent. It was $60 new when I bought it. I have used on trucks, cars, bobcat skid steer, mini excavator. Just all around handy. Mainly saves time from using a hand ratchet.
The long reach wrenches are a God send and a must have item in the toolbox. I purchased mine in order to get at out of the way fasteners. I don't use mine as a torque wrench but rather as a "high speed" wrench which is was designed for.
I agree. I actually don't like high torque ratchets. They break knuckles.
@@ronvonbargen8411 found the scrawny boy 😂
I got the husky as a Christmas gift and I love the thing it may not be as fast but it works well. Best thing about it is the battery seems to last forever. Grant it I don't use it everyday but I do use it a lot, fixing my car at home or assembling furniture and what not and that battery lasted me about 6 months before needing to recharge it. Definitely a good little tool for diy guys.
I bought a husky 2 years ago as a entry level racket for mobile automotive repair and it's awesome, may not break every nut loose but it spins them off and saves my wrist.
I own the 3/8 fuel and the 3/8 extended reach fuel I also own the AC Delco 3/8 extended reach and AC Delco 1/4 and my first choice is almost always the extended reach AC Delco because it has a much smaller profile and get into hard to reach places better than the fuel
I really just like to use these (the long neck versions) for running bolts in and out that are hard to reach. They are very effective at saving your hands in tight spaces. I bought a "KIMO" brand one last year and it's been one of the most useful tools in my garage. Never expected much power from it, but it does a surprisingly good job at breaking loose small/moderate hardware.
Loving the ratchet content, I just replaced the shocks on my Toyota Tacoma and my most used tool was my short head Ryobi cordless ratchet. I even used it with a 3/8 to 1/2 inch adapter because I didn’t have a 19mm in 3/8 drive and it did great. I’ve used it for over a year now and it’s never disappointed me. Just put it on a nut and start smacking the battery and it’ll do the job of a breaker bar if I’m too lazy to go grab one (this happens quite often). If a bolt is torqued to less than 80 ft-lbs then I’ll just use the Ryobi instead of needing a bar.
I bought the Husky on a whim, because I had a gift card and it was on sale. I think I got it for $59. It’s not a pro tool, so it really doesn’t compare to the higher end brands. But for stuff around my house it has performed admirably. I like it for the value and it’s compact size. After a year the battery is still going strong, I charge it every two weeks or so and has never died on me.
I have the husky as well. Got it on a simulator deal and used it extensively rebuilding the 1.6 in my Miata it worked for all I needed and only charged it once the whole rebuild
The Hercules is a underrated tool especially with its quarter inch Drive mechanical head and 3/8 Drive output . I can see a lot of people being disappointed in this tool because they exceeded its mechanical limitations being a 3/8 Drive with more less 1/4" drive guts . I personally own this tool in 1/4" drive as well as 3/8 and have been very happy with it as its very comfortable tool to use as far as balance and feel. It does slow down and struggle with Rusty fasteners but I mainly uses for tight access areas as well as general use and have had very good luck with it . I recently did a conversion on my 2559-20 with the high-speed 3/8 anvil and swapping the pawl but at $239 plus $40 for a Anvil set I think the Hercules has it beat especially if you buy the warranty. Bwt Milwaukee conversion on the extended 1/4" ratchet 2559-20 is the cat's ass.
What in the hell is a "cat ass"?
@@abechavez1876 slang for "something really great" some people say the cats meow .
How do you do it? Conversion
Max (in Utah), thanks for sending in your Hercules ratchet for them to test!
Good solid testing on the rachets. I wonder how Makita will do on the next video...
I picked the Husky up on sale for $65 at Home Depot after watching Project Farm's ratchet test. It's nice to see the purchase wasn't in vain! I absolutely love the thing and it's got enough "beans" for my work as a home mechanic. I'd absolutely buy it at the $95 price point as well if I were to do it again... and I might! My dad loves the thing, too and he was a mechanic for years.
If you need/want a cheap, knockaround cordless ratchet from a brand-name, you really can't go wrong with it, imo.
Snapon ratchets are my favorite! Just got the dewalt and boy it’s right there with them
@@Modine. brother Im a mechanic. I know what works and what doesn’t work. These channels don’t really get to use them out in the real world. Snapon is the best for cause they just work and work well! Milwaukee was a big let down.
@@Modine. husky and kobalt make some fine tools. Mostly have harbor freight hand wrenches. Really mixture of everything
I got one of the husky’s when they had them on sale for $60, for the size and battery capacity it’s hard to beat, real world it runs fasteners on or off fast and the battery lasts a long time, It’ll go all day without a problem, charge it at night and you’re good to go the next morning.
It’s not gonna drive a lag bolt, break a wheel stud loose or zip fasteners off super fast but if you’re sticking your arm in an awkward spot one handed with your tongue in just the right position trying to remove a fastener it’s a good tool for the job
These tests are very informative, and I really enjoy them. I do believe that a scoring system normalized by cost would be more useful. Someone buying a tool for his profession will not care too much about price but a weekend mechanic really wants the best value. Beyond this, the most important things are durability and warranty/service. The latter of these is only subjective since we only have owner reports on forums to go by.
That husky ratchet is an absolute gem hiding in plain sight. I had used one for about a year before i bought into m12. It never let me down, and it was a pleasant surprise. A great buy, even when not on sale
Yeah I went to home depot not intending on getting a cordless ratchet and walked out with it on sale for 60ish. One of the best purchases ever and i knew nothing about it, just took a chance. Good little tool.
CTR768 Brute from Snap-On. It's 125 rpm, but 70ft-lbs. It is a brushed motor but it has that gear reduction to increase its torque at the expense of RPM.
It'd be really interesting to see a comparison of tool truck brands. If you guys eventually do that, I'd be willing to loan you my 14.4V Snap On standard neck. It's supposed to be 250rpm and I think 65ftlb.
Id loan out my Mac 3/8 also, should be the same as the dewalt …. But you never know
@suspicionofdeceit what makes you say that?
@@James-tf7kn
To make drama
@suspicionofdeceit I don't loan anything I can't afford to lose, but if your tools tend to disappear when you loan them you're loaning then to the wrong people. More often than I get my stuff back, unless it's broken then it tends to get replaced.
Your comment read like TTC was stealing people's tools. Which I found hard to believe .
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I love my high speed Milwaukee… I bought it as soon as I knew it was getting released last year. A small head is why everyone loves the none fuel version which is why the fuel high speed is a near perfect cordless ratchet because not only is the head small it can zip bolts on and off at a lightning pace. Honestly electric ratchets are only for assembly or disassembly with a little physical nudge to loosen up bolts so torque is pointless in those times. If you have the space just zip stuff off will a compact impact.
Very underated comment! That's why I use one of these
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I personally own the hercules because for me the extended reach and small head on the tool allows it to fit in wayy more tight spaces compared with the milwaukee.
With the 2Ah battery it's very well balanced too. I have the 2557 (std. length, std. speed) Fuel, and not only is the head bulky it's also very heavy on that side. The Herc with the 2Ah battery is a couple hundred grams heavier than the M12 *w/o* a battery, but the Herc actually *feels* lighter in the hand by comparison. Just got the Herc but have a feeling I will be using it much more than the Milwaukee.
@AJ Kongmanichanh the right angle impact is by far my favorite tool, sure it sucks you have to buy 2 tools but it has saved my ass on multiple occasions
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With many of us invested in Makita batteries I am surprised you don't have a blue specimen, yet. I suggest the Makita XRW01Z as a versatile choice as the included 1/4 insert allows smaller sockets in tight places like under dashboards, etc. The insert system would also allow folks to create specialized inserts if needed and still have tight quarters ability without the endless adapters needed. If Makita doesn't offer a 1/4 HEX insert soon then I will make one.
While I applaud your testing criteria to included as much info as possible - I urge folks not to lose focus of what these tools are for.
Also, I encounter many times when there is almost ZERO room to swing a ratchet so tooth count/granularity is an important datum. What good is a course ratchet when I can't move enough to catch the next tooth?
Anyway, great channel!
I too would have liked to see a Makita in the mix. All my other cordless tools are Makita and I really don't want to start another stack of batteries.
I broke my Milwaukee and I bought the hurcules in a pinch I’ve been using it in a professional setting for 6 months no issues I love how cheap the batteries are too
I would love to see them Makita 12 volt and 18 volt ratchets tested. The 12 volt one sometimes goes on sale for $100 as a kit
Yes! Also didn't realize they put out a 12V version.
@@AToolWithTools This is the third video w/o the makita. No love for the CXT.
@@herpderp7092 Or the LXT. With a 1.5Ah or 2Ah battery its pretty much perfectly balanced right on the trigger
I returned the 18v after one use. Pretty worthless. It's fast and that's about it.
and the snapon never gets a look in, in the past its been the only one you can reliably rebuild...but at the minute the parts are forcing me to try other ones, i ended up witha sealey 10.8v cos it came with a kit of baby impact etc and im only doing bikes at the minute.
I used ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
Bought the Husky 12v cordless on clearance for like $50. Couldn't be happier at that price point.
Before watching. Ill just say this. I have the same Hercules and love it. Have ran it next to m fuel and might not be the same but does what this shade tree needs.
Oh and speed wise. Maybe you cover it but the herc I can get turning so slow i can calmly count the 1/4 turns
Before I watch. I got the husky electric rachet for home use. They wanted $160cad for it, but the dude at the till gave it to me for $85 when I said I wasn't paying that much.
What a game changer. I love using the damn thing
I will say I absolutely love my husky impact ratchet. I had a earthquake ratchet that someone stole while I was working so I picked up the husky from home Depot and never looked back. I use mine literally everyday all day. Never any battery life issues etc. Will gladly buy another when it goes out(if ever at this rate lol)
Well the time has come, after two years of hard service my $60 husky died today on the job. Started smoking but still wanted to keep working lol.
I bought one of those husky ratchets last year when they were still 60 bucks in sale. I have abused it like nothing else and it has never let me down
3 years ago I broke my Milwaukee mandrel (non brushless) so I picked up a Husky for $65 on sale around Christmas to get me by until the replacement parts came in. It was months later until I actually installed the replacement mandrel on the Milwaukee because there was surprisingly little difference. I also never ran the battery down in a single day in a professional setting. Two other guys in the shop ran down and picked up the last few in stock after borrowing it and using it. For $65 at the time was an amazing deal.
I love my M12 3/8dr ratchet. I do mobile mechanic work. It has its perks I also have the M12 drimmel with 2amp,4amp and 6amp batteries. I use a dewalt XR 1/2 high torque with 2 5amp batteries for suspension.
I've had the durofix/acdelco arw1201 57ftlb ratchet for a few years and I've been pretty happy with it. Haven't felt the need to switch to Milwaukee even though I already use M12 tools. Especially considering the difference in their cost.
The Durofix is excellent for small 5mm/6mm diameter threaded bolts what it was meant for. Plus it is way more compact and gets in tight places. I got the A/C delco other tools (Durofix) and work great.
Hercules rat hey is pretty great. I bought it as a starter but found my self still using after I upgraded to the snap on due to it's small head size
The durofix Amazon reviews seem to be part of trend on Amazon where things are rated oddly high. Almost like the reviews are being doctored.
I have a Makita XRW01Z and I have been pretty happy with it, but I have always felt it could be a lot better. The air ratchets (like the Astro 1128 and AirCAT 805-HT) are the only other powered ratchets I have and for comparison I think the noise of the pneumatics might make it sound like they do more than they really do.
I would love to see how the Makita LXT stacks up. I am heavy into their system and I know several of their other tools are rather low in the pack. I only have one plumbing tool in Milwaukee, but am impressed by the DeWalt performance, too. If Makita keeps losing, I might need to start investing in another brand.
Your channel is a gold mine! 👍👍👍
The thumbnail gets the like off the rip. Insightful and sarcastic funny. Thanks
Glad to see that you are showing the problems that you encountered.
I have a snap on 3/8” cordless and the lower torque (35ftlbs.) 1/4” Milwaukee. On paper the snap on blows my Milwaukee out of the water, obviously. But, the snap on’s only good quality is the RPM, that’s it. Barely any power to break loose a fastener from a dead stop so, you have to fudge it by getting it going them cram the tool on the fastener or break it free manually. It doesn’t have fine tooth gears which sucks when needing to manually break a fastener loose in tight quarters. My 1/4” Milwaukee has impressed me for it being the lower torque model. Finer gears in the ratcheting mechanism make it nice manually breaking free fasteners in tight quarters. Speed is acceptable with the larger M12 battery.
Love these ratchet videos and I cant wait for more brands of ratchets to be tested. That being said I would lo e to see some 1/4" impacts tested, matco has a popular one that claims only 60 ft-lbs I believe, and milwaukee makes one almost the exact same size that claims 100 ft-lbs. I work in collision repair and from what I've seen these 1/4" impacts are the most used impacts in the body shop. Also I have heard that the matco and makita 1/4" are the same impact branded differently, I would love to know I thats true
I own both of those 1/4 guns and can tell you the Milwaukee is definitely stronger and a lot faster, that being said I would like to see numbers to see by how much
This is about what I expected from the husky, decent enough, especially for the price. I have considered getting something with a replaceable battery, but find that I don't use it enough in a day to warrant replacing it. Especially since I got it for $50 iirc.
That said, I'd like to see the makitas, since I bought into that ecosystem and the convertible 1/4 to 3/8 head looks like a nice feature.
Ive got the husky, and i really like it. Makes doing some particular jobs a lot easier
Replacing the battery in the Husky isn't difficult. It's probably just a standard lithium cell.
i used millwaukee ext ratchet 3/8 and 3/8 impact for automotive/commercial hvac it just works
This is such a niche tool for me and I've never been a fan of the husky but it actually seems perfect for what I'd use it for, sitting in the van for a few months then pulling it out again for a small job. The inbuilt battery is nice, feels less like they're trying to get me to buy into another battery platform
Awesome--was hoping to see these tested and you did! :) Problem with extended reach ratchets is the top tier brands' are all very expensive. I have an M12 2557 but the extended 2560 is just way too pricey, and never comes on promos to "hack" it lower. Looking around, came down to three models which were affordable for a DIYer--the same Durofix, the AC Delco ARW1218, and the Hercules. The Delco can be had at a pretty good price in a combo *with* the standard length *and* a free 4Ah battery (which Durofix/Delco *does* have now), but the killer was the Delco has a *non-variable* paddle--it's either on or off. The Durofix is more expensive, doesn't come with the free 4Ah battery, but has a variable trigger and the lofty specs. But I watched another video and it was pretty clear it was not performing nearly as well as claimed, so not surprising you found the same. Glad I knocked that one off the list! Ended up with the Hercules--bought yesterday with the 25% coupon--it wouldn't stack with the tool/batt/charger discount so I bought them separately (tool, 2Ah, charger) totalling ~$116 pre-tax . Based on your results here I think I made a good choice--solid bang for the buck for an extended :)
On a side note I would have probably gotten the Ryobi HP instead *if* the 3/8" had come in the Ryobi Days promo (able to "hack" for a lower tool price) but for some reason only the 1/4" was offered in there, so it got knocked off the list as well.
I've had the Husky that came with a set of regular and deepwell sockets that I paid $59.99 for since the day before it technically came out at home depot on Christmas a few years ago. Saw it online, drove to HD, took one to the register and when it didn't ring up I showed the lady their site on my phone and she punched it in. Rung me out and I've been beating on it ever since. Holds a good charge for a built in battery
Yes mine came with sockets too. I've never used them lol. And I think it was the same 59 dollars.
I got the husky when it first came out for $60 and I like it, and the Milwaukee 1/4 ' brushed ratchets I use both daily
Just found the channel and loving it so far. Great to see someone exploring and answering the questions everyone thinks about in the shop, but doesn't usually take the time to test.
Any plans for testing standard drills without impact for torque claims?
Been working on a dyno for regular drills for 7+ months. It's a tricky category to test well.
@@TorqueTestChannel Awesome! I'm very curious to see the RPM vs torque curves on them. Keep up the awesome work.
If you every need any machined parts for a project, let me know. I'd be happy to put some of my time towards the channel.
I'm actually very, very impressed with that Hercules tool with it being almost half the price of the competition. For your torque tests I'd make a suggestion, however. You need to brace the tool so it doesn't move at all. You holding it during the torque test makes it so that your hand/arm absorbs a lot of the energy.
While that may be more scientific, it isnt realistic. When using these tools you wont have a brace to put them on, youre holding them
@@xvx897 Yes. I understand what you're saying. Real world numbers are important, but seeing as to how the scoring system is based off of manufacturers torque numbers it makes it fair in that department. They most certainly brace the tool when testing them in house.
I pay more for well made/designed quality tools for their warranty and customer support. With tools, usually, you get what you pay for.
That really depends just because you pay more doesn't mean a tool is better take snap ons power tools vs Milwaukee for what snap on wants for 1 you can own 2 with 2 batteries and 2 chargers.
Sometimes less is better (milwaukee).
Well then you have Milwaukee--high price (relative to other "retail store brands"), [usually] great performance, and very good quality. But, they have the *absolute worst* warranty and customer support I've ever come across personally--not worth the paper it's written on! That said, I haven't dealt with that many power tool brands' warranties. A guy I worked with, his dad runs a construction company and said a lot of these "pro" brands are like that though--warranty is a pain.
You may have to pay a few extra bucks for an HF warranty past 90 days, but should you do that, you just take the tool and they swap it for a new one with basically no questions asked. Milwaukee, they pretend to give you a "5yr warranty" but you have to jump through a bunch of hoops--take a day off work (because of the severely limited hours and days of operation of the places you have to go), run around to like 3-4 different places (all of which tell you they don't *actually* do Milwaukee warranty work despite Milwaukee saying otherwise)...and then finally have Milwaukee tell you it's "not covered" under warranty in the end anyway 🙄I would actually rather pay HF $20 or so for a couple years' of no-questions warranty and actually *have* that warranty (or just understand there is no warranty after 90 days otherwise), than even think about Milwaukee "warranty" again. I'll still buy Milwaukee at times, but with the understanding there's no warranty at all.
@@rolandm9750 I know guys who in the shop who had their milwaukee just stop working. They sent it in. Within 2weeks they had brand new one. I don't know of a single person who hasn't got another milwaukee tool within the first 2 weeks if their tool was still under warranty.
Snap on is the real joke had to warranty 2 tools from them clowns and it's been 2months and still have got shit back.
And the return was shipping by Milwaukee was paid for all they did was send it in.
Awesome testing again.
That snap is the torque click😂.
Thank you!
I love using the Husky for things like putting furniture together and working on scooters, mini bikes and lawn equipment but I wish it had a removable battery and came with 1 or 2 extra so you could use it continuously.
I think we should see the original brushed Milwaukee. It would give a brushed vs brushless direct comparison. I also would be willing to bet that it's the one that the most people have, given how old it is and how it's almost always one of the "free tools" on Home Depot's sales.
I just bought an Aoben 3/8 cordless. I don’t see a need to buy any other. Fits in all the small spots
I think I used the husky for a whole year before I took the charger out of plastic bag. Given the jobs were only 2 - 10 minutes each and maybe used every other month, it was still impressive.
I've been wanting a 1/4 long reach and I've had pretty good luck with the original Milwaukee 3/8 plus I already have batteries and chargers. The compact head on the Hercules is very tempting though. I'm just hesitant to rely on it holding up to daily use
Nice demo.
I own the husky, bought it for 50$ around November two years ago. It’s not a bolt buster but I bought to tighten 5/16” bolts from 80 to 400 maybe drops to one of 3 light bars. Also those other guys are too long for the limited spaces I get into.
Just striped 3 3/8 tapcons this morning with the 1/2". Out come the cordless ratchet to the rescue.
I think head size is the most important for cordless ratchets.
Great video. Would love to see some of the tool truck brands being tested. Such a snap on brute or Matco.
They are no better, just more expensive.
I'd love to see the plain Jane m12 brushed Milwaukee to see where it stands up. They include it in so many different kits for promos or bonuses. I like it for my farm/professional homeowner duties; but I've wondered if the fuel ones are worth the extra cheddar
Thanks TTC!
I'm an air compressor mechanic by trade and have owned both. I have small hands and prefer the brushed model. I gave the larger more powerful brushless model to my son, a big strapping lad who works on heavy equipment.
The Hercules didn't seem bad for the price, even though it was bottom middle, I feel it could be a respectable medium use tool. And its cheaper than the Durofix. As a maintenance mechanic or someone at home, I think it would be a good buy.
I had the hyper tough extended ratchet and broke it at about 50-60 ft-lbs using it manually. I bought the replacement plan and they gave me another one with batteries and let me keep the old batteries. I gave it to my kids and got the Milwaukee and that can take as much torque as I can put on it. (not the extended one) You get what you pay for, but if you use a manual ratchet or breaker bar on everything, the battery assistance is still saving you a dramatic amount of time.
Non fuel m12 pretty please!!! I feel like that with how they are included in so many kits as a freebie but are priced at $149 vs $179 for either of the fuels, is it worth it. Also would like to see how much hand applied torque it could withstand since that seems to be the weak point on it. Project farm tested the rpm on it and it was above advertised, around 500 rpm (no load) if I recall correctly. Great video as always! Keep up the great work.
I would like to see that old m12 also, i think it pretty much the cordless ratchet that started it all in the cordless ratchet segment.
@@ssclassof2000 I know, that's exactly what I was thinking. I own one and personally like it but got it as freebie.
Yeah, I know when I bought mine a lot of recommendationa we're for the non-fuel m12 as it's just so much easier to fit in different places than the fuel. Torque obviously is less, but still comparable to the low-buck ones in this episode. Have heard some complaints about it being fragile, so the manual test could be illuminating.
Almost should split up the long ratchets from the short ones (kind of like the different torque categories for impacts) as there's a good chance you might want both for different jobs.
I got a tiny 7.2v 1/4 AC delco for taking bumpers off in the body shop. I was surprised when I can strip the whole front end, breaking free big bolts too, the body is nice and rigid.
i have the husky. i think $60 on sale. been using it for 2 years and its been amazing. the battery lasts forever.
Love my husky 12v ratchet. Have used it for years
was glad the hercules performed as well as it did since i'm thinking about grabbing their 12v screw driver, drill/driver, and impact driver for general around the house stuff since the 20v are way larger and heavier, not that i'm conplaining just wanting tools that better fit the needs. and to be additionally fair, i rarely need what the 20v can do, it's really only needed when i work on my car.
I own the husky and I am quite pleased with its performance. Automotive technician.
You should do an Amazon special for ratchets, just like you did with the torque wrenches. All those same brands too, Aoben, Avid Power, Kimo, etc. Are they be worth the risk to save a few cents? (I'm assuming not, but it'll make for an entertaining episode nonetheless)
We'll put it in the line-up!
Inhave that husky one. Love that little guy. Been using for 3 years now. No real complaints.
TTC, as you point out, the no-load RPM is a meaningless performance number. But since it is listed on the box, it would be interesting to measure it, just to see if, or how badly, each manufacturer is lying. (If you already did this I missed it.)
Yeah PF tests the no-load RPM so if it's one tested on that channel, you might be able to see the result there. But the use of nylocks is interesting because then you could have a standard test both ways--test the no-load RPM, then test the RPM driving a same-size nylock nut to give a "load RPM" number as well.
I personally have the husky and only use it on small automotive screws and bolts. On larger hardware I use my ryobi 3/8 impact or 1/2 impact on lug nuts.
Large batteries inhibit the attraction of ratchets. The small and compact 1.5ah battery of my M12 allows me to get to places my fat hands and fingers can't freely move. If I need more sustained torque or speed, then I'm using a different tool. Short and quick then off the trigger. Remember, these are not designed for lug nuts(torque) or deck screws(rpm).
I've been considering getting one of these so this video couldn't have come at a better time 💯
You could probably use the pinched lock nuts that have the crimped in top to act like a rusted fastener and add some resistant. Not sure if the pinched nut will have more resistant then a nylon
That Durofix is probably cutting out due to overload/overheat protection, my Ingersoll Rand does it to protect the motor from burning out on fasteners that require too much torque for it to handle.
But the Durofix doing it on a bolt that is already spinning is a bad sign.
Duro it's probably not/Fix it probably needs......Just reading between the lines
Torque is not the reason to by a power ratchet. In fact I prefer lower torque in my power ratchets than higher. I also prefer a lower RPM rachet so I don't slam steel bolts into aluminum threads. The paddle trigger is very easy to feather on the Hercules. Clearances are everything when it comes to power ratchets; if you can't physically fit the tool into the given space, it doesn't matter how good the specs are. I use the Hercules in my shop every day and love it. You really shouldn't be using a power ratchet on anything much beyond 20-30ft/lbs on any modern car or aluminum assembly.
Side note: all ratchets are cordless, but not all are powered.
Thanks for this testing series. I'm sure most of us have been waiting for you guys to test ratchets. I have the Milwaukee high speed and the Husky. I like the Husky for its simplicity and wish their were a long reach version. The Milwaukee is great with ideal conditions but will slow down dramatically when it sees trouble. Overall a great ratchet but will require hand turning in a professional environment.
I really like the duro fix/ ac delco tools. Good price and quality tools.
That husky is a awesome cheap durable electric ratchet. The down side is the charger. If the provided charger breaks like mine did good luck just trying to buy the charger. My ratchet still works after using it in industrial construction for 4 years but it’s useless now because I can’t charge it.
I bought the husky on sale at home depot for 70? 60? Few years back. Works great.
Brushed motors do suffer directly and dramatically from an increased load compared to brushless. As the speed decreases, brushless can compensate with increased torque as its back-emf is reduced which allows it to draw more current from the esc
Like these tests, thanks! Would like to see the Kobalt 24v cordless ratchet tested.
You got it
Is TTC gonna put out their 2nd weekend video this week. Yes
You need to review the Walmart Hyper Tough cordless tools. I use both the cordless ratchet and brushless cordless impact driver at work and I’m doing mechanic work all day. I love these tools, they were cheap and they haven’t let me down at all. All my other co-workers are using Milwaukee. I didn’t feel like spending $300 dollars on 1 tool. And I feel like I’m doing the same if not better with the hyper tough than the Milwaukee