I have e2 sparkle, and e1 robin and I will say they're worth it if u wanna do a horizontal investment. And e1 robin is the best e1 in the game. It's a e6 in disguise but in e1. Luocha e6 gives res pen of 20% yeah as a debuff but Robin's gives 24%. So yeah in perspective get her e1 it's so good lol
Id def get e1 over the lightcone. She has the best e1 and keep in mind when u activate her concerto state the buff is like ruan mei ultimate buff where it gives u res pen. So basically u have a ruan mei buff on the concerto buff. Its that good. Her lc is not as good. Ur better off using better tomorrow lc or meshing cogs. @mediumsurmoon6283
Honestly I feel like E2s are a lot less worth considering than E1s, even the really OP ones like Acheron's E2, unless the character's E1 is also really strong. Acheron's E1 is not, and her S1 is probably more cost efficient than going for her E2 if you can't or don't want to get both; there's plenty of characters with E1s/S1s that already make them OP (Firefly for example, her E1 is really strong). Also, if you only ever plan to vertically invest in a few characters, supports are probably going to last a lot longer than any hypercarry characters (especially Ruan Mei and Robin, HoYo would have to COMPLETELY change the meta to make either of them not good in the future), so unless you are 100% committed to using a particular hypercarry for at least a year or two, getting Ruan Mei's and/or Robin's E1s are probably the single most efficient vertical investments you can make in the game. Also, that disclaimer at the start of the video is extremely vague. I shall clarify, it is POSSIBLE to clear all endgame content with max stars with only E0S0 characters, but it will be really difficult if you don't have at least one team that can take advantage of the cycle buffs.
I like your version of the disclaimer a lot more. Don’t think I could have cleared all cycles of endgame content since 1.3, if my Imbibitor Lunae and Seele were E0S0 instead of E2S1. I really like vertically investing in characters, since it means I can for the most part just use the same two teams in every game mode, instead of having to pull and build new teams with characters I like less.
additional honourable mentions: 1. e1 yunli improves her damage against single target by as much as 33% - even more than e1 robin against non-phys weak (which would be 30%) 2. e1 lingsha if you have e1+ (especially e2+) firefly will let you stack DEF bypass as high as 80% (60% w/o e1 mei) 3. e1 huohuo is also solid for the SP positivity (can E every 3 turns instead of every 2) and 12% speed buff
its wild how E1 Robin is basically a better version of Ruan Mei. or at least a Ruan Mei who doesn't focus on break. i originally used Ruan Mei for my KafkaSwan team but Robin's attack boost (and now res pen bonus from getting her E1) made me move Ruan Mei to other damage dealing teams
1:39 As an E2 Imbibitor Lunae player, I just want to mention the downsides of E2. Buffs that are based on Imbibitor Lunae’s turns will go down quicker, so his extra attack will not be buffed by a Sparkle skill and will make Tingyun less skill point friendly (maybe even skill point neutral). Secondly, having E2 makes Imbibitor Lunae use more skill points. That’s because you no longer have two Squama Sacrosancta stacks for your next turn, like you would with E0-E1. This makes Sparkle a necessity if you want to get buffs and use his fully enhanced basic attack each turn. Though I still think the pros outweigh the cons, since you can do stuff like giving him an ERR rope to get a ridiculous amount of free turns in pure fiction.
@@jamesfrancisgalang7350with E0-E1, when you ult you have 2 stacks, making your next turn only take 1 SP. With E2, when you ult you do gain 3 stacks instead of 2, but 100% AA makes you instantly burn the 3 stacks. You gain one SP neutral EXTRA turn but your next NORMAL turn will cost 3 SP like normal. E0-E1 don't have this extra turn, so they still have the 2 stacks to make the turn only cost 1 SP
Jades E1 is interesting for a number of reasons. For pure fiction it’s useless, doesn’t matter at all, Jade will curve stomp pure fiction without e1 s1. But Jade e1 makes it so she is unusable in content outside or pure fiction. Just yesterday as of writing this, I fulling cleared apocalyptic shadow. (Patch 2.5) with Jade e1 s1 fp2 with are new fox momma. Against aventurine. As the strong side with a remaining action value of 1700. (Which is the best I’ve ever had, I’m really bad at AS) So it’s an interesting E1.
I have e2s1 DHIL and I agree with this list. Even though I have the most broken teams (Feixiao Topaz Robin, s1 Acheron SW Sparkle, Firefly RM) and DHIL is still keeping up with them, and even outpacing them even though the buffs in MOC and AS aren't to his benefit. He's basically the staple in my 1st team, with the rest of my dps fighting for the second team. The only endgame that I'm still struggling to this day is PF (I'm still 12 stars all the past PFs but no Himeko, Jade, or Argenti is really rough)
Man i love your videos so much.. you just kinda talk about the things im most interessted in at the moment they drop. love your voice and you keep it compact and short. good work!
What you said at the end is very important, if you missed some stars at the last difficulty it's fine you're just missing out on roughly a pull I was thinking on pulling rappa since I thought I was starting to need a PF unit.... But I got 50k points in difficulty 4, I'm just missing out on 80 jades on a pure fiction that a lot of people said was suprisingly hard and probably harder than all previous pure fictions I was about to use 80+ pulls on a character that while I like her design, my account doesn't really need and is not very high on my priorities list in terms of characters I want to own I think I'm going to stick to what my original plan was, e2 acheron, save for jiaoqiu and boothill and see what 2.7 brings in terms of new characters, then start investing in my robin for e1 and s1, topaz for e1 and s1 as well, maybe I'll pull s1 or shoot for the e1 right now, but we'll see and finally aventurine s1 to finally complete the 3 teams I'm building right now, break, FUA and acheron hypercarry. And of course, see what new metas 3.x brings and see if I want to build a team for that version once it rolls around
I want to get E1 robin but i think its time to start saving for 3.x cuz if they're going to bring another character from hi3 he or she is going to break the game just like acheron did and lets not forget about the fate collab
What I observed in regard of Es and LCs is that It's a hybrid between Genshin and HI3. In HI3, gear is essential for a character, it's an insane boost, but Rank Ups (equivalent of Eidolons or Cons) are pretty underwhelming. In GI, weapons aren't that great of an upgrade (although recently it changed a little), but cons are extremely strong. In HSR, you have something in between. both Eidolons and signature LCs are good upgrades, but not outstanding like in other games. Honestly, I like that solution, because it feels more liberating.The only issue for a lot of people that I've noticed is that signature LCs are hyper-specific for given character and aren't universal, like some weapons in Genshin. I don't see this as a problem for myself, because signature is signature, and even if for example Fu Xuan LC would be great for Aventurino, I wouldn't use it on him anyway, because it's not his.
And at least 2 teams in every game mode. And they changing conditions every update, favouring different mechanic. So it's 3 teams to swap them on demand.
After struggling a bit since I don't have Jade, Himeko, Firefly, Acheron, my year old E2 IL just demolished PF. Bro still cooks. I got 60k with Feixiao team on Phase 1
I just got Robin E1. I still don't have her LC but in the teams I use her with, FUA. She usually gets her Ult in enough time. Her E1 damage increase seems to be more impressive
I don’t see why people are allergic to vertical investments. This game rewards building the small elite few rather than a wide roster of e0s0s. Heck the amount of people who will do ANYTHING not to pull a signature lightcone shocks me. Most characters can get by but if the f2p lightcone pool is poor then obviously something has to give. Feixiao was sort of the tipping point for me and hunt. Yes her e1 is a higher gain technically…but i only have one boat. So the choice was obvious get her sig so boat can go to a different hunt on the same team. I dont disagree that some eidolons are a bit superfluous but black swan and robin e1s being able to punch through resist are absolutely fire 🔥
I have DHIL e2, Acheron e2, RM e2, FX e1. Even with FX i still use DHIL in most run coz he is a walking nuke. I have Sparkle too at e0 and DHIL e2 is one thing I didn’t regret spending in HSR. FuXuan e1 is also good, a buffer tank? Sign me up!
I think we're finally in a time in 2.5 of star rail long time players can finally start vertically investing during re runs cause FF, F & acheron aren't gonna be power crept for a long long long time
I feel like E4 topaz could break the game if they ever add another summon that can advance. Which is probably why we won't see that cause the risk of Infinite turns is terrifying
This is my personal take, e2 acheron bricks her gametype reason being: whats the point of getting e2 (another copy) when it basically would invalidate the other 5* nihility units like silverwolf, pela(4*) and who knows one day jiaoqiu.
i think one thing note worthy is the lc in comparison. like a lot of times, the lc is stronger than the eidolon. i forget which is which but from what i remember, ruan mei s1 is much more broken than e1, acheron s1 is more worth than e2 cost and value wise combine, well firefly eidolons are broken asf so nvm. sparkle s0 is also very broken. honestly everything is broken, almost like e2s1 is the complete package
actually, it is impossible to get full uptime on ruan mei ult outside of calx or e6. The best you can do (unless u run meshing cogs and get hit like 20000000 times) is a 2t ult, and even then for a 2t ult, you have to have 124% er and even then sometimes you cant get full uptime with sig, so you need a s3+ motp.
@@yoyododo9234 I run memories of the past S5 on ruan mei. and Ruan mei sig cone on Hmc , Ruan Mei is always having her ult before it runs out so yeah it is possible she is e1. Why you think it’s impossible without e6 if I can do it ?
@@ktstorms5285 there are a couple ways u could think that you could get a 2t ult 1. You start of with ruan mei ult and then get her first ult before the time ends. 2. you have aventurine luck with hits 3. Huohuo 4.0 cycle with slow mei 5. calx with psim
@@ktstorms5285 Lmao thought I replied but I didn't You are either a)blind b) calx c) you started with ruan mei ult so first turn d) aven luck with hits e) 0 cycling with vonwaq mei Check ruan mei mains there is an entire section on 3 turn ults. If you would take 2 minutes to look at the fandom, ruan mei ult lasts 2 turns. Do the math
I have most of them you said, funny enough. Only missing the Firefly, everyone else is up there. I do have Firefly e0s0, I just couldn't whale at that time to get her eidolons at all sadly, but I probably will on her rerun. I also don't have the honorable mentions eidolons, just the main 5/6.
I have both E2 Firefly and E1 Robin on another account, and I will definitely say they are not necessarily since Firefly is already able to kill the enemy really fast however as of now her E2 as much as i hate to say it isnt really necessarily since her E2 is situational since it activate on whether it break or kill. That itself is a problem since some end game stages have one big boss and no allies so it just kinda pointless. Dont get me wrong it powerful in the right situation or basically meh every other times. Robin E1 is so goated that my f2p account was able to clear end game contents with ease, and Robin is the only 5 star support eidolon I have on that accunt. The other one I have on the f2p account is Blade and I rather not talk about it
What even is the point of it, just use Sparkle and two Nihility without sustain, Acheron kills fast enough, getting a whole Eidolon for the same result is nuts.
i dont really have too much time since i started to play star rail, but my first 5 star is robin, and i decided to get her e1 that same banner, now that she's rerunning i got her light cone, i hope i can get Ruan mei's e1 or her light cone, but not sure what is better if Light cone or her e1...
for Ruan Mei? E1 is the more universal increase in my opinion, since her LC only adds 30% DMG (I think?) which is not needed in a break team and a +1 SP which shouldn't be a big problem if you're using Gallagher instead of Lingsha
Jade is barely a character without her E1 but once she has it she’s amazing, she pairs great with Feixiao once she has it and can get up to 12 stacks every time it’s Fei’s turn if things work out correctly
I got robin E1 My yunli with HORRENDOUS substats mind you is dealing 200k damage per counter damage full buffs My feixiao same problem with yunli their relics just hate me dealing 200k damage full buff as well I might even replace my E0S1 and E0S1 sparkle/Ruan Mei(I switch between them sometimes)on my Acheron team for Robin
Just save up and get E6 Acheron and go BRRRRRRRRMRMRMRMRMMMMMMMMMM… you basically will only need another Hypercarry for doing team mode content in the game.
Yeah ive never been able to full clear content in this game, all my characters are E0S0, I got 35/36 stars in MOC, only got 9/12 stars in PF and couldnt even beat the last stage in AP. This game has wild powercreep so it is what it is
That's more of a you issue than a powercreep issue. You're either not building characters correctly (either bad relics, not enough talent levels, not fully levelling LCs, etc.) or not investing properly into teams. Also should probably considering getting some E0S1 or E1S0 characters to boost your account if you're struggling that much. Lots of really good ones like Robin E1 or Topaz S1 that hugely buff tons of teams. There's plenty of super F2P low investment teams that can easily clear all content like Firefly teams or Acheron teams. Even the Feixiao team is relatively F2P friendly being able to use Hunt March instead of Topaz or Gallagher instead of Aventurine. I have a few limited Light Cones but the only really invested character I have is Acheron E2 (the only other limited 5* Eidolon I have is Jade E1) and I don't even use her every MoC, and I've barely used her in Apocalyptic Shadow. Was even able to clear 1st half of this MoC using the DoT team with E0S0 Kafka E0S0 Swan E0S0 Ruan Mei E0S0 Huohuo, which isn't considered very meta at the moment. Yunli teams are also really F2P friendly and can use a ton of different units, and still clear MoC or AS no problem. Also Dr Ratio is a character everyone has and he has a million viable teammates and clears content with no issue.
I've been playing for 3 months and I get full stars on pf, 30/36 stars on moc and 3/4 in ap, and my units don't even have maxed out traces, I only have 3 promo units and 2 promo light cones
@@hallyuniverse I dont have Dr.Ratio and my only two teams are Kafka and Firefly. Kafka team took 8 cycles to clear and firefly couldnt beat aventurine in 2 because of his dice gimmick. Guess it is just relic diff idk 🤷♂
@@insertnamehere2022 I mean if you don't have Dr. Ratio it means you can't have been playing the game for more than 4-5 months. Obviously an account isn't going to be fully built in that time or have a huge variety of characters. Also there hasn't been any real "powercreep" since you've started playing. Free Ratio ended at the end of 2.1, 2.2 was Robin + Topaz rerun + Fu Xuan rerun, 2.3 Firefly + Ruan Mei rerun, 2.4 was Yunli + Huohuo rerun + Sparkle rerun, 2.5 is Feixiao + Robin rerun and Topaz 2nd rerun will be in a week or so. You've literally had access to every single one of the top meta characters except Acheron and Aventurine if you started in 2.2. The Kafka team sucks without Swan + a limited Harmony (Robin or Ruan Mei) so that's probably your issue with that team.
DHIL E2, Acheron E2, Firefly E2, Black Swan E1, Topaz E1, Jade E1, Jingliu E1, Feixiao E1/E2, Ruan Mei E1, Sparkle E2, Robin E1
E1 topaz is not that strong to be honest
@@boularasayoub3318 just a resume of the video don't know if they are great
@@boularasayoub331850%crit dmg is sooo helpful.
I have e2 sparkle, and e1 robin and I will say they're worth it if u wanna do a horizontal investment. And e1 robin is the best e1 in the game. It's a e6 in disguise but in e1. Luocha e6 gives res pen of 20% yeah as a debuff but Robin's gives 24%. So yeah in perspective get her e1 it's so good lol
What about S1 Robin vs E1 Robin? Which one would you reccomend I go for?
@@mediumsurmoon6283S1 makes her ult rotation more comfy, so I'd suggest pull for S1 first for utility before bigger team dmg.
@@mediumsurmoon6283E1 > E0S1.
Id def get e1 over the lightcone. She has the best e1 and keep in mind when u activate her concerto state the buff is like ruan mei ultimate buff where it gives u res pen. So basically u have a ruan mei buff on the concerto buff. Its that good. Her lc is not as good. Ur better off using better tomorrow lc or meshing cogs. @mediumsurmoon6283
@@mediumsurmoon6283E1 Robin is better than S1 Robin
Honestly Aventurine E1 literally makes him an SP positive character since you never have to press his skill ever again like it’s so good😭😭😭😭
If you are having SP issues with Aventurine at E1 then you have to build your Aventurine right
@@Gaurang_Karande that is not what they said. read correctly
You don't need to use his skill at e0 lol
@@ktstorms5285 He is already SP Positive at E0
@@ktstorms5285he's already extremely sp positive
Honestly I feel like E2s are a lot less worth considering than E1s, even the really OP ones like Acheron's E2, unless the character's E1 is also really strong. Acheron's E1 is not, and her S1 is probably more cost efficient than going for her E2 if you can't or don't want to get both; there's plenty of characters with E1s/S1s that already make them OP (Firefly for example, her E1 is really strong).
Also, if you only ever plan to vertically invest in a few characters, supports are probably going to last a lot longer than any hypercarry characters (especially Ruan Mei and Robin, HoYo would have to COMPLETELY change the meta to make either of them not good in the future), so unless you are 100% committed to using a particular hypercarry for at least a year or two, getting Ruan Mei's and/or Robin's E1s are probably the single most efficient vertical investments you can make in the game.
Also, that disclaimer at the start of the video is extremely vague. I shall clarify, it is POSSIBLE to clear all endgame content with max stars with only E0S0 characters, but it will be really difficult if you don't have at least one team that can take advantage of the cycle buffs.
I like your version of the disclaimer a lot more. Don’t think I could have cleared all cycles of endgame content since 1.3, if my Imbibitor Lunae and Seele were E0S0 instead of E2S1.
I really like vertically investing in characters, since it means I can for the most part just use the same two teams in every game mode, instead of having to pull and build new teams with characters I like less.
additional honourable mentions:
1. e1 yunli improves her damage against single target by as much as 33% - even more than e1 robin against non-phys weak (which would be 30%)
2. e1 lingsha if you have e1+ (especially e2+) firefly will let you stack DEF bypass as high as 80% (60% w/o e1 mei)
3. e1 huohuo is also solid for the SP positivity (can E every 3 turns instead of every 2) and 12% speed buff
e2 Huohuo = +2x Bailu in terms of protection teammates from dying.
its wild how E1 Robin is basically a better version of Ruan Mei. or at least a Ruan Mei who doesn't focus on break. i originally used Ruan Mei for my KafkaSwan team but Robin's attack boost (and now res pen bonus from getting her E1) made me move Ruan Mei to other damage dealing teams
1:39 As an E2 Imbibitor Lunae player, I just want to mention the downsides of E2.
Buffs that are based on Imbibitor Lunae’s turns will go down quicker, so his extra attack will not be buffed by a Sparkle skill and will make Tingyun less skill point friendly (maybe even skill point neutral).
Secondly, having E2 makes Imbibitor Lunae use more skill points. That’s because you no longer have two Squama Sacrosancta stacks for your next turn, like you would with E0-E1. This makes Sparkle a necessity if you want to get buffs and use his fully enhanced basic attack each turn.
Though I still think the pros outweigh the cons, since you can do stuff like giving him an ERR rope to get a ridiculous amount of free turns in pure fiction.
Imbibitor Lunae in Pure Fiction is insane work 😅 I could have never imagined that
@@tmbteuclid Has gotten me 40000 points several times.
Would you explain the Second Part?
Cuz e2 Dhil gives him 3 Squama Sacrosancta Stacks instead 2
Meaning he don't consume more sp than his e0-e1
A premium solution for Sparkle would be e6 sparkle i think if she ults after Lunae ults then she'll buff his 2nd turn
@@jamesfrancisgalang7350with E0-E1, when you ult you have 2 stacks, making your next turn only take 1 SP.
With E2, when you ult you do gain 3 stacks instead of 2, but 100% AA makes you instantly burn the 3 stacks. You gain one SP neutral EXTRA turn but your next NORMAL turn will cost 3 SP like normal. E0-E1 don't have this extra turn, so they still have the 2 stacks to make the turn only cost 1 SP
I got Black Swan's e1 and it makes her an awesome sub dps even in non dot teams. I use Dotcheron and my ladies wipe the floor with content
Feixiao E2 is really OP.
Ikrr
basically duplicates the ults she gets
Facts, I tried my friends E2 feixiao with m7 hunt and feixiao gets her ult pretty much instantly
Holy shit I didn't realize you used my video at 4:54
W vid
Robin e6 will make everyone a dps
*Herself included.
Jades E1 is interesting for a number of reasons. For pure fiction it’s useless, doesn’t matter at all, Jade will curve stomp pure fiction without e1 s1. But Jade e1 makes it so she is unusable in content outside or pure fiction.
Just yesterday as of writing this, I fulling cleared apocalyptic shadow. (Patch 2.5) with Jade e1 s1 fp2 with are new fox momma. Against aventurine. As the strong side with a remaining action value of 1700. (Which is the best I’ve ever had, I’m really bad at AS)
So it’s an interesting E1.
I have e2s1 DHIL and I agree with this list. Even though I have the most broken teams (Feixiao Topaz Robin, s1 Acheron SW Sparkle, Firefly RM) and DHIL is still keeping up with them, and even outpacing them even though the buffs in MOC and AS aren't to his benefit. He's basically the staple in my 1st team, with the rest of my dps fighting for the second team.
The only endgame that I'm still struggling to this day is PF (I'm still 12 stars all the past PFs but no Himeko, Jade, or Argenti is really rough)
I'd like to shout out Kafka's E2, since she is the main driver for DoT teams and futureproof character for her niche, her E2 is very strong
Sparkle's E1 is pretty good too, it's just a straight 40% dmg buff which you can never go wrong with.
Man i love your videos so much.. you just kinda talk about the things im most interessted in at the moment they drop. love your voice and you keep it compact and short. good work!
I appreciate it. I keep making videos because of people like you :)
I pulled for E1 Robin and it was the BEST investment I’ve ever done in my life, the difference in dps is just too big
What you said at the end is very important, if you missed some stars at the last difficulty it's fine you're just missing out on roughly a pull
I was thinking on pulling rappa since I thought I was starting to need a PF unit.... But I got 50k points in difficulty 4, I'm just missing out on 80 jades on a pure fiction that a lot of people said was suprisingly hard and probably harder than all previous pure fictions
I was about to use 80+ pulls on a character that while I like her design, my account doesn't really need and is not very high on my priorities list in terms of characters I want to own
I think I'm going to stick to what my original plan was, e2 acheron, save for jiaoqiu and boothill and see what 2.7 brings in terms of new characters, then start investing in my robin for e1 and s1, topaz for e1 and s1 as well, maybe I'll pull s1 or shoot for the e1 right now, but we'll see and finally aventurine s1 to finally complete the 3 teams I'm building right now, break, FUA and acheron hypercarry. And of course, see what new metas 3.x brings and see if I want to build a team for that version once it rolls around
I want to get E1 robin but i think its time to start saving for 3.x cuz if they're going to bring another character from hi3 he or she is going to break the game just like acheron did and lets not forget about the fate collab
Doing the same I like robin but I despise her glazers
Bro there is no HE in HI3 lmao
@@KingDarkness100 saying that while we literally have HI3 welt in HSR is such an idiotic statement
@@KingDarkness100 Kevin, Siegfried, welt, otto/void archives, Adam and I can keep going
i only have jade e1 and its so good with feixiao as main dps
I’m surprised no one talks about this combo, Jade E0 isn’t very good but her E1 makes her infinitely better and she’s so slept on
0:14 how ironic is it that I had that same luck on sparkle debut but with her light cone instead
What I observed in regard of Es and LCs is that It's a hybrid between Genshin and HI3. In HI3, gear is essential for a character, it's an insane boost, but Rank Ups (equivalent of Eidolons or Cons) are pretty underwhelming. In GI, weapons aren't that great of an upgrade (although recently it changed a little), but cons are extremely strong. In HSR, you have something in between. both Eidolons and signature LCs are good upgrades, but not outstanding like in other games. Honestly, I like that solution, because it feels more liberating.The only issue for a lot of people that I've noticed is that signature LCs are hyper-specific for given character and aren't universal, like some weapons in Genshin. I don't see this as a problem for myself, because signature is signature, and even if for example Fu Xuan LC would be great for Aventurino, I wouldn't use it on him anyway, because it's not his.
In my Opinion. No matter how beautiful a char is in an an eidolon, or wht it does, it doesn't matter bc u need at least 4 chars in this game
And at least 2 teams in every game mode. And they changing conditions every update, favouring different mechanic. So it's 3 teams to swap them on demand.
i'm assuming you mean robin's e1 through e6🥰
After struggling a bit since I don't have Jade, Himeko, Firefly, Acheron, my year old E2 IL just demolished PF. Bro still cooks. I got 60k with Feixiao team on Phase 1
Robin makes such an improvement for FuA teams with each of her eidolons E6 is such a goal for FuA teams I dream of it
I just got Robin E1. I still don't have her LC but in the teams I use her with, FUA. She usually gets her Ult in enough time. Her E1 damage increase seems to be more impressive
seeing this after losing 50/50 on robin e1 to fatqing
8/10 video, there was no drawings when rating eidolons.
that firefly is a must for me😳😳😳😳😳😳
i'll go for E1 and her LC on her rerun
I don’t see why people are allergic to vertical investments. This game rewards building the small elite few rather than a wide roster of e0s0s. Heck the amount of people who will do ANYTHING not to pull a signature lightcone shocks me. Most characters can get by but if the f2p lightcone pool is poor then obviously something has to give. Feixiao was sort of the tipping point for me and hunt. Yes her e1 is a higher gain technically…but i only have one boat. So the choice was obvious get her sig so boat can go to a different hunt on the same team. I dont disagree that some eidolons are a bit superfluous but black swan and robin e1s being able to punch through resist are absolutely fire 🔥
I maybe would call Fu Xuan E1 as a honerable mention since having a tank that also gives 12 % crit rate and 30 % crit damage is kinda crazy.
I have DHIL e2, Acheron e2, RM e2, FX e1. Even with FX i still use DHIL in most run coz he is a walking nuke. I have Sparkle too at e0 and DHIL e2 is one thing I didn’t regret spending in HSR.
FuXuan e1 is also good, a buffer tank? Sign me up!
E2 FF by a long shot. You save so much SP from skill and you just break everything. In SU with 3s hunt blessings, FF gets 95% of all turns.
After seeing video, I realised that Seele got robbed by dhli and firefly
disclaimers took the spice out of this video
Lmao just having Robin's e1 already kicks ruan mei out of the DoT team
You forgot something.. and its e1 Yunli
As a dps eidolon that early Eidolon has the highest Dmg increase for any of the dps character in e1.
I think we're finally in a time in 2.5 of star rail long time players can finally start vertically investing during re runs cause FF, F & acheron aren't gonna be power crept for a long long long time
I feel like E4 topaz could break the game if they ever add another summon that can advance.
Which is probably why we won't see that cause the risk of Infinite turns is terrifying
This is my personal take, e2 acheron bricks her gametype
reason being: whats the point of getting e2 (another copy) when it basically would invalidate the other 5* nihility units like silverwolf, pela(4*) and who knows one day jiaoqiu.
i think one thing note worthy is the lc in comparison. like a lot of times, the lc is stronger than the eidolon. i forget which is which but from what i remember, ruan mei s1 is much more broken than e1, acheron s1 is more worth than e2 cost and value wise combine, well firefly eidolons are broken asf so nvm. sparkle s0 is also very broken. honestly everything is broken, almost like e2s1 is the complete package
ruan mei ult uptime is also 100% so you never are out of ultimate and always have the def shred active its good
actually, it is impossible to get full uptime on ruan mei ult outside of calx or e6.
The best you can do (unless u run meshing cogs and get hit like 20000000 times) is a 2t ult, and even then for a 2t ult, you have to have 124% er and even then sometimes you cant get full uptime with sig, so you need a s3+ motp.
@@yoyododo9234 I run memories of the past S5 on ruan mei. and Ruan mei sig cone on Hmc , Ruan Mei is always having her ult before it runs out so yeah it is possible she is e1. Why you think it’s impossible without e6 if I can do it ?
@@ktstorms5285 there are a couple ways u could think that you could get a 2t ult
1. You start of with ruan mei ult and then get her first ult before the time ends.
2. you have aventurine luck with hits
3. Huohuo
4.0 cycle with slow mei
5. calx with psim
@@ktstorms5285 Lmao thought I replied but I didn't
You are either a)blind
b) calx
c) you started with ruan mei ult so first turn
d) aven luck with hits
e) 0 cycling with vonwaq mei
Check ruan mei mains there is an entire section on 3 turn ults. If you would take 2 minutes to look at the fandom, ruan mei ult lasts 2 turns. Do the math
@@yoyododo9234 when I typed this I thought she had 3 turn ult , my bad
i guess E2 huohuo is the goty of healers
Its like instant 2x Bailu, but with energy and cleance and +%atk 👌
@@DobinSergei and speed too kek (all thow it's pretty small)
Sadly that they forgot to add e1s1 Jade, she worth a while, she is banger AOE and Single, she does good damage!
I have most of them you said, funny enough. Only missing the Firefly, everyone else is up there. I do have Firefly e0s0, I just couldn't whale at that time to get her eidolons at all sadly, but I probably will on her rerun. I also don't have the honorable mentions eidolons, just the main 5/6.
I have both E2 Firefly and E1 Robin on another account, and I will definitely say they are not necessarily since Firefly is already able to kill the enemy really fast however as of now her E2 as much as i hate to say it isnt really necessarily since her E2 is situational since it activate on whether it break or kill. That itself is a problem since some end game stages have one big boss and no allies so it just kinda pointless. Dont get me wrong it powerful in the right situation or basically meh every other times.
Robin E1 is so goated that my f2p account was able to clear end game contents with ease, and Robin is the only 5 star support eidolon I have on that accunt. The other one I have on the f2p account is Blade and I rather not talk about it
Bro is shilling the impractical Acheron E2, joever.
What even is the point of it, just use Sparkle and two Nihility without sustain, Acheron kills fast enough, getting a whole Eidolon for the same result is nuts.
E2 Acheron is like E2 Robin, faster ult and more teammate options
@Wyqkrn E2 Robin at least have speed
omg best player in hsr
ok but what does xolze think of E2DHIL (brainrot)
i dont really have too much time since i started to play star rail, but my first 5 star is robin, and i decided to get her e1 that same banner, now that she's rerunning i got her light cone, i hope i can get Ruan mei's e1 or her light cone, but not sure what is better if Light cone or her e1...
for Ruan Mei? E1 is the more universal increase in my opinion, since her LC only adds 30% DMG (I think?) which is not needed in a break team and a +1 SP which shouldn't be a big problem if you're using Gallagher instead of Lingsha
Jade is barely a character without her E1 but once she has it she’s amazing, she pairs great with Feixiao once she has it and can get up to 12 stacks every time it’s Fei’s turn if things work out correctly
If the new 5 star ting gives a lot and I mean a lot of energy. E2 dan might be quite broken. A free ult every turn or every other turn would be crazy.
E0 no lc who even need eidolons to clear the game bruh
Me have both e1 robin and e1 fexiao , both have signature also..they crack the content easy lol my god
I got robin E1
My yunli with HORRENDOUS substats mind you is dealing 200k damage per counter damage full buffs
My feixiao same problem with yunli their relics just hate me dealing 200k damage full buff as well
I might even replace my E0S1 and E0S1 sparkle/Ruan Mei(I switch between them sometimes)on my Acheron team for Robin
I got double Luocha and Jinglius one their first banners
Just save up and get E6 Acheron and go BRRRRRRRRMRMRMRMRMMMMMMMMMM… you basically will only need another Hypercarry for doing team mode content in the game.
very sad blade has some of the worst eidolons in the game along seele
Martin Sandra Young Helen Anderson Jennifer
Harris Patricia Thomas Robert Moore David
1. Wallet
Goddamn im only missing e2 dhil and e2 sparkle. My wallet cries anytime a new char comes out 😭
Or have to wait a couple of years for their reruns...
Robin E6
Yeah ive never been able to full clear content in this game, all my characters are E0S0, I got 35/36 stars in MOC, only got 9/12 stars in PF and couldnt even beat the last stage in AP. This game has wild powercreep so it is what it is
That's more of a you issue than a powercreep issue. You're either not building characters correctly (either bad relics, not enough talent levels, not fully levelling LCs, etc.) or not investing properly into teams. Also should probably considering getting some E0S1 or E1S0 characters to boost your account if you're struggling that much. Lots of really good ones like Robin E1 or Topaz S1 that hugely buff tons of teams. There's plenty of super F2P low investment teams that can easily clear all content like Firefly teams or Acheron teams. Even the Feixiao team is relatively F2P friendly being able to use Hunt March instead of Topaz or Gallagher instead of Aventurine. I have a few limited Light Cones but the only really invested character I have is Acheron E2 (the only other limited 5* Eidolon I have is Jade E1) and I don't even use her every MoC, and I've barely used her in Apocalyptic Shadow. Was even able to clear 1st half of this MoC using the DoT team with E0S0 Kafka E0S0 Swan E0S0 Ruan Mei E0S0 Huohuo, which isn't considered very meta at the moment. Yunli teams are also really F2P friendly and can use a ton of different units, and still clear MoC or AS no problem. Also Dr Ratio is a character everyone has and he has a million viable teammates and clears content with no issue.
I've been playing for 3 months and I get full stars on pf, 30/36 stars on moc and 3/4 in ap, and my units don't even have maxed out traces, I only have 3 promo units and 2 promo light cones
@@hallyuniverse I dont have Dr.Ratio and my only two teams are Kafka and Firefly. Kafka team took 8 cycles to clear and firefly couldnt beat aventurine in 2 because of his dice gimmick. Guess it is just relic diff idk 🤷♂
@@insertnamehere2022 I mean if you don't have Dr. Ratio it means you can't have been playing the game for more than 4-5 months. Obviously an account isn't going to be fully built in that time or have a huge variety of characters. Also there hasn't been any real "powercreep" since you've started playing. Free Ratio ended at the end of 2.1, 2.2 was Robin + Topaz rerun + Fu Xuan rerun, 2.3 Firefly + Ruan Mei rerun, 2.4 was Yunli + Huohuo rerun + Sparkle rerun, 2.5 is Feixiao + Robin rerun and Topaz 2nd rerun will be in a week or so. You've literally had access to every single one of the top meta characters except Acheron and Aventurine if you started in 2.2. The Kafka team sucks without Swan + a limited Harmony (Robin or Ruan Mei) so that's probably your issue with that team.
@@insertnamehere2022 are u using kafka with black swan? DOT is really awful without BS
Skill issue
Got lucky getting double feixiao