Thank you, Fr. Pine. You and the others at the Thomistic Institute are doing important work. I am discerning religious life and the Dominicans in particular partly because of you.
Great to hear. Fr. Pine also has a talk on the theology of vocation, if you haven't seen it yet. Part I: ua-cam.com/video/jjSlsDVfrxI/v-deo.html Part II: ua-cam.com/video/HAHM0TqqTgs/v-deo.html
I am discerning monastic life as well, ever since an overwhelming conviction & repentance that God has put on my heart. It was such a clear moment in the quiet of midday, where He spoke into my heart the sublime beauty of being His & His alone! Praying for all of you who are discerning & already committed to the Life; thank you Fr Pine & the Thomistic Institute for consistently putting into words how I have felt my entire life as a contemplative soul! P.S. Referencing the Theology of Vocation too, was profoundly moved by it. Glory be!
Many years ago the doors were opened but I didn't walk through. If you have a calling follow through with determination if that is the fruit of your discernment .You'll regret it for the rest of your life if you don't.
Good to hear. Fr. Pine also has a talk on the theology of vocation, if you haven't seen it yet. Part I: ua-cam.com/video/jjSlsDVfrxI/v-deo.html Part II: ua-cam.com/video/HAHM0TqqTgs/v-deo.html
Thank you Fr. Pine for this and also for that video on discernment you were on with Pints with Aquinas. I'm currently a high school student discerning whether I am for the contemplative life, particularly the Dominicans (one of the driving factors was the Thomistic Institute), or for the married life. Please pray for me, and God bless.
My missionary experience and the experience I had living with an active community some yrs back made me understand that I am called to a contemplative / active life.
Thank you so much Fr. Pine, what your saying and describing makes a lot more sense than reading. Your wonderful may God continue to hold you in the palm of his wonderful hands
In the Active and Contemplative juxtaposition, I can't help but think of Martha and Mary. One of the two was indeed deemed by Christ to be following the "better" part...and not the one most might naturally or instinctively guess!
Indeed! In this article, St. Thomas mentions how Mary's choice reflects that fact that "the sweetness of truth is eternal." aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-iiaiiae-q-182#SSQ182A1THEP1
"Faith seeks understanding" the mystery of God, Reality, and self. Thru filial and innocence faith, we see reality is governed by Super Mind and reveal to us the Power n Wisdom of the Creator. When logos in our minds purified from filth, we began to see ourself and reality in a new way, as pure gift, from the One who has no Beginning or End but always IS.
We are working on adding translated captions to all of our videos, so be sure to check the "Subtitles/CC" to see if Spanish is available! May the Lord bless you!
All styles of Religious life are beautiful and very important and necessary!! None are less or more. Because like a Cloister sister told me “they are all for the same GOD”. Cloister nuns and brothers are like the Lungs of the church and the Active orders are like the hands and feet of Jesus. I have been seriously discerning for some yrs already and I know I am not called to be a cloister but yes contemplative and active like Jesus was. I feel Jesus is calling me to the semi-contemplative life. Because when I visited some monastic order even though it was beautiful and rich I strongly felt I had to be on the other side of the grill. When I was headed back home I saw all the homeless people and felt the need to help them. Don't get me wrong cloister life is beautiful but I feel Jesus needs me with the people and also living a strong prayer life.
Excellent discussion about the ideal of what religious life should be. Since the 1960's, however, there are many religious orders and congregations that appear to have rejected this ideal, and many of their members pursue very worldly lives. In contrast, and thanks be to God, there are other religious orders and congregations where their members pursue the religious life ideal presented in the video, which appears to be the case with the Dominican Providence of St. Joseph.
Thanks for your supportive words. The variety of religious life, like the variety of creation, expresses the effusive goodness of the creator of nature and of grace: "because His goodness could not be adequately represented by one creature alone, He produced many and diverse creatures, that what was wanting to one in the representation of the divine goodness might be supplied by another." ST I q. 47, a. 1.
...anyone considering the Augustinian way of life? 💘 Don't worry, Luther's long gone 🙂 And our General Curia's right in front of the Apostolic Palace, so the Pope can check whether another Luther will come out from us 😅 "...for you [O God] have made us for yourself, and our heart is restless until it rests in you." - St. Augustine, Confessions, I,1,1
Thanks also to @@ThomisticInstitute for producing these videos. I get to review my philosophy and theology through these clips. Plus, I feel like they'll be of help as my comprehensive exams for theology are drawing near.
I'm attracted to and even feel called to religious life, but I have very little to offer in terms of knowledge, skills, and abilities, to a religious community (and it's not for lack of trying). I don't mean to be down on myself, but in all humility, I'm just not a very capable person. I don't know that I'd be of much help, except for the most simplest of tasks, with the work that needs to be done around a monastery and to help support the monastery. Do religious communities generally still accept people like me?
Tough question! While one could say a lot here, I'll simply say with St. Thomas that "the material diversity of human acts is infinite," and point you to his discussion of the various duties of human life, ST II-II q. 183: aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-iiaiiae-q-183#SSQ183OUTP1
What about the mixed life? Doesn't St. Thomas say that this is the best state of religious life as it is the way of life that our Lord lived? It also seems that he says that to defend the Dominican life, right?
He certainly had it in mind to defend the Dominican life, but he also spoke universally about the contemplative life, which is our ultimate, heavenly goal in addition to being a form of life on earth. St. Thomas does not refer to a "mixed" life, as far as I know. However, he famously speaks about the superiority of an "active life that proceeds from the fulness of contemplation," saying: "even as it is better to enlighten than merely to shine, so is it better to give to others the fruits of one's contemplation than merely to contemplate." See: aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-iiaiiae-q-188#SSQ188A6THEP1
@@ThomisticInstitute Ah, okay. Thanks for being so generous with responding. I'm having difficulty finding exactly where in the Summa Aquinas says that our Lord was both active/contemplative. Perhaps I made it up? So....The end of every person is to contemplate God. But, this contemplation of God is also a form of life in the Church. What I myself had in mind, was that I was breaking down religious life into contemplatives, actives, and those of the "mixed" variety. Maybe this is not how its broken down when studied formally, or is a newer concept, but I was thinking as an example that the Benedictines are contemplatives, Jesuits would be likened to the active life, and the Dominicans and similar Orders are the "Mixed" category as they aim to contemplate and then in turn share its fruits, but while keeping contemplative elements of life such as the monastic cloister, horarium, grand silence, etc. In this train of thought, the primary end of EVERY religious would be to contemplate God, but their secondary end by which they contemplate is their apostolate. For some, the secondary is the same as the first, such as contemplation for the Benedictines, but others do active ministry as do the Missionaries of Charity. But it seems as though for Thomas those religious who have this mix of life are still categorized under the contemplative life.
I do understand the better choice of Maria vs Martha, being both in the presence of Jesus, an extraordinary event in time and place. However, if we assume that contemplative life is the best throughout the human era, taking this proposition to the limit would result in the extintion of human life on earth (no marriages, no children). Somebody has to provide for the wellbeing of humanity, including the sustenance of the contemplative communities through charity. If God has provided humans with the talents and the material means to do so in the Universe, I find equally valid a saintly active life to the contemplative one (Sorry, St Thomas).
Carnism breeds wetiko, the ancient tradition of the sacrifice spawned neoliberal materialism through misinterpretarion of ancient dogma and became permissive of the illusion of separation from nature trapping us in the contemporary dynamics where we consume one another. We exited eden the moment we thought of ourselves as entitled to consume the flesh of our equal in god's name, this is a vain utterance of yaweh.
Kindly Accept open challenge by Dr zakir naik .. Islam is the only Deen from the beginning of this world.. check out what prophet Ibrahim teached, the same thing prophet Muhammad SAW explained and Jesus will come back to stand with Islam too .😊
To watch other videos with Fr. Gregory, you can check out this playlist! → ua-cam.com/play/PL_kd4Kgq4tP8ncNdsa-ItSdGCR_-jzB7e.html
Thank you, Fr. Pine. You and the others at the Thomistic Institute are doing important work. I am discerning religious life and the Dominicans in particular partly because of you.
Same, good luck, God bless
Great to hear. Fr. Pine also has a talk on the theology of vocation, if you haven't seen it yet.
Part I: ua-cam.com/video/jjSlsDVfrxI/v-deo.html
Part II: ua-cam.com/video/HAHM0TqqTgs/v-deo.html
I am discerning monastic life as well, ever since an overwhelming conviction & repentance that God has put on my heart. It was such a clear moment in the quiet of midday, where He spoke into my heart the sublime beauty of being His & His alone! Praying for all of you who are discerning & already committed to the Life; thank you Fr Pine & the Thomistic Institute for consistently putting into words how I have felt my entire life as a contemplative soul! P.S. Referencing the Theology of Vocation too, was profoundly moved by it. Glory be!
Thanks be to God for your faith, and know of our prayers for your vocation!
Great video, I am discerning a religious vocation and the Dominican Order is one of my best options.
Many years ago the doors were opened but I didn't walk through. If you have a calling follow through with determination if that is the fruit of your discernment .You'll regret it for the rest of your life if you don't.
Good to hear. Fr. Pine also has a talk on the theology of vocation, if you haven't seen it yet.
Part I: ua-cam.com/video/jjSlsDVfrxI/v-deo.html
Part II: ua-cam.com/video/HAHM0TqqTgs/v-deo.html
@@ThomisticInstitute Awesome!!!
Same here!
Thank you Fr. Pine for this and also for that video on discernment you were on with Pints with Aquinas. I'm currently a high school student discerning whether I am for the contemplative life, particularly the Dominicans (one of the driving factors was the Thomistic Institute), or for the married life. Please pray for me, and God bless.
Great video! I appreciate the imagery and concept of a religious being a “whole burnt offering” to God.
Thank you!
My missionary experience and the experience I had living with an active community some yrs back made me understand that I am called to a contemplative / active life.
The beauty of giving yourself to God.
Thank you so much Fr. Pine, what your saying and describing makes a lot more sense than reading. Your wonderful may God continue to hold you in the palm of his wonderful hands
Great teaching and much needed in a world where everyone wants every Vocation to be the same Vocation. This is great.
Thank you Aquinas 101, may God bless you!
Thank you Father. God bless.
You're welcome.
Thank you fathers for this extraordinary explanations. A Bio science student from sri lanka
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Thank you , very deep stuff indeed
In the Active and Contemplative juxtaposition, I can't help but think of Martha and Mary. One of the two was indeed deemed by Christ to be following the "better" part...and not the one most might naturally or instinctively guess!
Indeed! In this article, St. Thomas mentions how Mary's choice reflects that fact that "the sweetness of truth is eternal." aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-iiaiiae-q-182#SSQ182A1THEP1
"Faith seeks understanding" the mystery of God, Reality, and self. Thru filial and innocence faith, we see reality is governed by Super Mind and reveal to us the Power n Wisdom of the Creator. When logos in our minds purified from filth, we began to see ourself and reality in a new way, as pure gift, from the One who has no Beginning or End but always IS.
thank you for the videos!!! would it be possible to make them in Spanish too?
We are working on adding translated captions to all of our videos, so be sure to check the "Subtitles/CC" to see if Spanish is available! May the Lord bless you!
contact Hieronymites in Spain you might become their 10th member
All styles of Religious life are beautiful and very important and necessary!! None are less or more. Because like a Cloister sister told me “they are all for the same GOD”. Cloister nuns and brothers are like the Lungs of the church and the Active orders are like the hands and feet of Jesus. I have been seriously discerning for some yrs already and I know I am not called to be a cloister but yes contemplative and active like Jesus was. I feel Jesus is calling me to the semi-contemplative life. Because when I visited some monastic order even though it was beautiful and rich I strongly felt I had to be on the other side of the grill. When I was headed back home I saw all the homeless people and felt the need to help them. Don't get me wrong cloister life is beautiful but I feel Jesus needs me with the people and also living a strong prayer life.
God bless you and your vocation to serve him and others.
Excellent discussion about the ideal of what religious life should be. Since the 1960's, however, there are many religious orders and congregations that appear to have rejected this ideal, and many of their members pursue very worldly lives. In contrast, and thanks be to God, there are other religious orders and congregations where their members pursue the religious life ideal presented in the video, which appears to be the case with the Dominican Providence of St. Joseph.
I meant Dominican Province, not Providence. Sorry!
Thanks for your supportive words. The variety of religious life, like the variety of creation, expresses the effusive goodness of the creator of nature and of grace: "because His goodness could not be adequately represented by one creature alone, He produced many and diverse creatures, that what was wanting to one in the representation of the divine goodness might be supplied by another." ST I q. 47, a. 1.
I love Aquinas I had a dream I met him twice!
...anyone considering the Augustinian way of life? 💘
Don't worry, Luther's long gone 🙂
And our General Curia's right in front of the Apostolic Palace, so the Pope can check whether another Luther will come out from us 😅
"...for you [O God] have made us for yourself, and our heart is restless until it rests in you."
- St. Augustine, Confessions, I,1,1
Cheers to the Augustinians! Thanks for watching Aquinas 101!
Thanks also to @@ThomisticInstitute for producing these videos. I get to review my philosophy and theology through these clips. Plus, I feel like they'll be of help as my comprehensive exams for theology are drawing near.
I'm attracted to and even feel called to religious life, but I have very little to offer in terms of knowledge, skills, and abilities, to a religious community (and it's not for lack of trying). I don't mean to be down on myself, but in all humility, I'm just not a very capable person. I don't know that I'd be of much help, except for the most simplest of tasks, with the work that needs to be done around a monastery and to help support the monastery. Do religious communities generally still accept people like me?
So cute!
Yet, which is easiest? Similarly, which is the most difficult?
Tough question! While one could say a lot here, I'll simply say with St. Thomas that "the material diversity of human acts is infinite," and point you to his discussion of the various duties of human life, ST II-II q. 183: aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-iiaiiae-q-183#SSQ183OUTP1
What about the mixed life? Doesn't St. Thomas say that this is the best state of religious life as it is the way of life that our Lord lived? It also seems that he says that to defend the Dominican life, right?
He certainly had it in mind to defend the Dominican life, but he also spoke universally about the contemplative life, which is our ultimate, heavenly goal in addition to being a form of life on earth. St. Thomas does not refer to a "mixed" life, as far as I know. However, he famously speaks about the superiority of an "active life that proceeds from the fulness of contemplation," saying: "even as it is better to enlighten than merely to shine, so is it better to give to others the fruits of one's contemplation than merely to contemplate." See: aquinas101.thomisticinstitute.org/st-iiaiiae-q-188#SSQ188A6THEP1
@@ThomisticInstitute Ah, okay. Thanks for being so generous with responding. I'm having difficulty finding exactly where in the Summa Aquinas says that our Lord was both active/contemplative. Perhaps I made it up?
So....The end of every person is to contemplate God. But, this contemplation of God is also a form of life in the Church. What I myself had in mind, was that I was breaking down religious life into contemplatives, actives, and those of the "mixed" variety. Maybe this is not how its broken down when studied formally, or is a newer concept, but I was thinking as an example that the Benedictines are contemplatives, Jesuits would be likened to the active life, and the Dominicans and similar Orders are the "Mixed" category as they aim to contemplate and then in turn share its fruits, but while keeping contemplative elements of life such as the monastic cloister, horarium, grand silence, etc. In this train of thought, the primary end of EVERY religious would be to contemplate God, but their secondary end by which they contemplate is their apostolate. For some, the secondary is the same as the first, such as contemplation for the Benedictines, but others do active ministry as do the Missionaries of Charity. But it seems as though for Thomas those religious who have this mix of life are still categorized under the contemplative life.
Would have liked to have heard something about the permanent Deaconate.
Nice discussion . Thanks Father
Frank
You're welcome.
I do understand the better choice of Maria vs Martha, being both in the presence of Jesus, an extraordinary event in time and place. However, if we assume that contemplative life is the best throughout the human era, taking this proposition to the limit would result in the extintion of human life on earth (no marriages, no children). Somebody has to provide for the wellbeing of humanity, including the sustenance of the contemplative communities through charity. If God has provided humans with the talents and the material means to do so in the Universe, I find equally valid a saintly active life to the contemplative one (Sorry, St Thomas).
Carnism breeds wetiko, the ancient tradition of the sacrifice spawned neoliberal materialism through misinterpretarion of ancient dogma and became permissive of the illusion of separation from nature trapping us in the contemporary dynamics where we consume one another. We exited eden the moment we thought of ourselves as entitled to consume the flesh of our equal in god's name, this is a vain utterance of yaweh.
Are you a monk?
Close! Dominicans are called friars.
@@ThomisticInstitute What is the difference?
Mary has chosen the better part…
Kindly Accept open challenge by Dr zakir naik ..
Islam is the only Deen from the beginning of this world.. check out what prophet Ibrahim teached, the same thing prophet Muhammad SAW explained and Jesus will come back to stand with Islam too .😊
No one forgets aquanis was a human guy. He was incredibly pretentious and wrong constantly.