I see it now, Yuji will take two hits from Toji then suddenly… Toji trembles. Glimpses of their shared childhood start to flash before his eyes. “I can’t keep hurting my dear brother, not for any money” he utters as he drops the Inverted Spear Of Heaven, tears streaming down his face. 😂
@@fardin_king6817 naw, it's just that he had two situations where people thought of him as their brother, though only the second one had some sort of foundation, meanwhile the first one... Todo is kind of a Schizoid
@@asura3229 1. Mach 3 Naoya is exclusive to his curse form. Its not at all relevant to his human scaling. 2. Me and No Operator very clearly state that Naoya/Naobito would be the hardest fights up to that point (and by then we covered yuji, megumi, kusakabe, and mei mei)
@@asura3229maki spanked human naoya before being fully realized. Then after becoming equal to toji beat a verison of naoya that was tiers above the human naoya that maki fought. It's an easy fight at this point for maki/toji.
I see Maki and Toji being very acrobatic against Mechamaru and dismantling that robot. I honestly see them going crazy with it having more fun than they would against the majority of other opponents
@@CerotheDemon Yeah true, if Nanami can create weak points on inanimate objects as well he can on Toji/Maki. But it's gonna be useless, I think even if he hits them with Ratio they'll just shrug it off.
You forgot something with Todo, he can switch places with Toji's/Maki's equipment and or snatch them from their hands with boogie woogie, makeing them have to fight hand to hand what basically is a teleporting gorilla who can use their own wepons proficitly against them.
Yeah, i was waiting for them to bring that up but looks like they forgot. But still Toji and Maki wins against Todo but the switching equipments was overlooked.
1.They don't need weapons to begin with for sorcerers who are grade 1 and below. 2. He cannot use their main weapons proficiently. Soul Katana requires the user to be able to see souls and inverted spear requires the target to have a CT. Basically in Todo's hands against Toji and Maki they'd just be regular weapons. Todo is also still extremely slow in comparison and and would be beat even if he has playful cloud.
Yes ... but u would figure if hes that much stronger he wouldnt have a hard time disarming him or knovking him out without killing him just like Gojo did within seconds
The reason stated for why Mahito’s victims couldn’t be healed is because there wasn’t any damage to the soul, Mahito just changed the shape. Actual damage could probably be healed if one is good enough at RCT.
Maybe spoilers!!! I think the soul.cant be healed via evt, bc maki sliced sukunas finger with the soul liberation blade, which damages the soul not the body, and he still had the cut scar after his "bath" gaining full control over his body and healing it. So it could be a hint that his soul couldn't be healed.
he could probably beat every cursed spirit pre awakening, and most sorcerers besides people like Yuki or Sukuna. The main issue for him pre awakening is that he doesn't have a Domain Expansion so he could easily be screwed if he gets stuck in a strong DE
all domain sure hits go through Gojo's infinity, since attacks do not exist until they hit on an individual Gojo's infinity would not be able to detect nor stop it.@@tianshuhuang5431
@@tianshuhuang5431nah, they don’t travel, they just instantly there, that’s why it’s a sure hit ability. So like unless simple domain or a domain clash, Gojo pre awakening dies to any domain
Angel turned out to be waaaaay stronger than we thought, to the point where Sukuna goes for trickery instead of tackling her head on, Jacob’s Ladder was an OD attack that seriously hurt Sukuna(although he fixed it up with Reverse CE)
@@yasukiofficial1541 it just means insanely good but not unbeatable if you know it exists and can get around or react to it kinda like a frame 1 invincible move or a character with good mixups in a fighting game
A point with Megumi's fight that I wished you covered, It is shown numerous times that he is willing to Kamikaze with Mahoraga when against an enemy he perceives as being unable to beat. How does Toji/Maki deal with Mahoraga + Megumi?
I mean 10 shadows is from the zenin clan and both maki and toji should know it at least if even better than gojos limitless. I don’t think they would give megumi the chance. He has no tricks to hide against the 2.
Hakari actually does have an instant hit, the domain gives everyone inside the rules, which innately increases risk and therefore Hakari's odds get better.
I believe damage from the soul splitter blade is able to be healed with RCT. An important thing to know is that the body=soul, and when one is affected, the other follows along. The reason Idle Transfiguration can’t be healed is because the soul isn’t “damaged,” it’s shape is just shifted around. With the soul splitter blade, it targets the soul directly, but the soul can be healed simply by healing the body.
On top of that, strong enough characters can endure durability negating attacks that target the soul, like Nanami with Mahito. And we’ve already seen Hakari defend against something that’s supposed to be virtually impossible to block with his CE Quantity and Output though even among ‘special grade levelI’ his situation is an exception
That statement from kenjaku was debunked by mahito on the spot wasn't it? I don't think RCT can heal the damage to the soul tbh. It's not something that RCT should heal bcoz if damage to the soul could be healed. It would make RCT users essentially immortal.
Everyone is forgetting one very important thing about Megumi's domain expansion. You need to reinforce your feet with cursed energy to prevent yourself from falling into the shadow. And since neither Maki nor Toji have any cursed energy, the domain is an instant win provided they actually fall into the shadow and don't find some way to dodge.
I see why you would think this, but that simply isnt the case. Chapter 110 pg4 shows Toji standing on Megumi's shadows, and in chapter 113 Megumi says that his domain wouldn't work on Toji even if he had enough energy to expand it
For real, people forget that If you damage his cursed spirit, toji all of his weapons, If yuta says "die" toji may even handle with, but his spirit would not be so lucky
He gets shitstomped regardless. Toji and Maki are not dependant on their tools to win, and their tools are as good precisely because they are the ones using them. What good is the soul splitter sword in Todo's hands if by the time he makes a swing, Toji and Maki would pummel his ass from 5 directions since he isn't a cursed spirit. Todo would join Ino to get a plastic surgery to reconstruct their faces
@@Tyler_Frenzy todo literally tanked a blackflash from mahito and still had enough reflexes to clap his hand, not sure if toji would be able to one shot him with a punch that easily
@harshitdhiman9638 To be fair the fact they can punch someone like Yuta probably is already a win... Atleast I think that's what Toji would say after losing. I mean if I were fighting peak Mike Tyson and I could hit solid one on him... I would count this as a victory if you understand what I mean. You're right anyway tho.
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A part we’re ignoring about Kashimo is that his lightning discharge is like a domain’s surehit and his reinforced attacks cannot be blocked. The lightning discharge is so potent it removed a body part each time it was used, but Hakari could just consistently heal automatically. Even if they sense the static build up, it’s still gonna hit. I’d agree with operator that it’s a 50/50 for who wins.
Nah, it's 100 % for kashimo favour due to the speed gap they had, like if maki struggling to keep up against anomalies Mach 3 speed, you really think she can keep up against a guy who fast as a lightning?
@@tigerriderminecraftjava5097well Hakari was keeping up with him speed wise and he was even stated to be faster than him at the end of his jackpot. And maki is faster than hakari
That'll be too much though I honestly don't think Toji/Maki would survive a domain from Megumi not because megumi is Stronger but because Toji had been shown to fall into megumi shadow at Shibuya you could argue that he didn't see it coming and he can run on water but IMO they'd sink into the shadow of he were to use his Domain in time/if he manages to not get speed blitz and 1 shot and then use his Domain. Toji could also just out run it though we don't know how fast the domain actually expands and even Yuji could move while Mahito was expanding his. Mahoraga 1 v 1 loses to Toji because he is a CT and Tojis has the inverted spear. He could lose to Maki if she takes off his head the soil katana but I don't think that'll happen because mahoraga's Body didn't get separated after taking sukunas Dismantle despite the wall behind it being damaged as well which mean it cut through it's body and was still standing. Also VC naoya was fast enough to heal himself back after the split soul Katana cut him in half
I’m surprised Toji’s chain cursed tool wasn’t mentioned much because of its seemingly near infinite range if he’s able to attack his other weapon to it he could extend his range dramatically and against opponents such as Ultimate Mechamaru he could create chains large enough to entangle and immobilize his mech form
Toji feels like the embodiment of “There’s no freebie’s here, payment is in the form of ass, money, or possibly food. And if, you ain’t got nothing than you getting folded like a chair.” When it comes to females characters.
coming back after Shinjuku and seeing some of these takes is hilarious bro, justice for Kusakabe cause outright in Shinjuku we’re told he’s the strongest Grade 1
"I think it would be funny if i molly whopped you right now" haha imagine gojo opens up his domain and instead of freezing up like jogo hes just like lol what am i looking at.
@@emmasongbiaye2205 I think his 0.2s domain might work against Toji. In Shibuya his domain activation was so fast the barrier didn't even form and it affected everyone within the area
26:56 I think what Mei Mei meant was that Yuji is the first one beside Kusukabe to be on a grade 1 level Kusakabe was already a grade 1 and Yuji was nominated for grade 1, not only that but Mei Mei says that Yuji is on par with a grade 1 sorcerer
I appreciate that! (Seth exactly in the best standings anymore, but I get what you mean lmao) In any case me and No Op will be doing some more gauntlet battles like these soon
Something to comment on about Toji and Maki vs a Granite Blast is the fact that Yuta was able to take a shot with minimal injuries just using Cursed Energy Reinforcement, and Rika who was able to block it unharmed with just her hand. Though, I do think it is possible for them to just sneak up on Ishigori like Yuta did and strike him.
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 Yuta has the highest curse reinforcement in the verse so far. His durability and RCT makes him waaaay too tanky even for Toji and Maki.
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 No, it negates the technique not the energy. The Inverted spear of heaven only affects techniques not a large blast of cursed energy kinda like Kashimo's lightning bolt. I don't believe Maki and Toji are durable enough to survive a granite blast to the hand or face like Yuta did.
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 maki and toji would have to be hit and they have shown the ability to react to and dodge seemingly much faster attacks also kashimos lightning enters the body so it negates durability ishigoris attacks dont
Considering Kenjakus domain. He probably handles maki and toji pretty easily. Yuki with mass probably annihilates maki but toji would be harder because of isoh
Yh Maki would just be sitting there doing nothing and waiting for her. If Yuki uses the same output of mass she's been using since the kenjaku fight started then she doesn't annihilate(assuming Yuki can land a hit on Maki) but Maki uses the split soul Kati which negs durability so maki still has better damage than Yuki.
10:51 I dont think so!! I am not putting their intelligence into question really but, the only reason that Megumi figured out her cursed technique was because he recalled her sister telling him about the constellations, so he had prior info. Unless Toji/Maki has that sort of info, I am not so sure they are figuring it out that easily. OFC, they will figure it out given they have time to do so.
I know this was made before the Yuji/Maki tag team fight against Sukuna, but that display certainly would have turned this discussion around better in his favor. Than again, this is before Yuji's buffs in that fight for sure.
@@destroyart7742 shikigamas aren't real beings 😂 they are made from the shadows they aren't cursed corpses like panda. And wdym how is he blitzing them he literally was on par with 15 sukuna and was pressing gojo he would immediately slam both of them if summoned
The soul splitting aspect of their swords can only be used by people that can see souls like the HR duo and Mahito. Otherwise its just a normal high grade cursed tool sword like the one Megumi used.
About the match up vs Megumi, you forgot that people trapped in his domain sink into the shadow, where there is no air, unless they coat their foothold with CE. So the result depend on whether Megumi can expand his domain fast enough or set them up to use his domain
Megumi knows that Toji has no cursed energy and in chapter 113 says that he can't trap contain Toji even with his Domain. Also in chapter 110 we see him standing on Megumi's shadows with no problem
@@BrokenRonin well Maki was standing on it too so either Gege didn't gave Megumi's domain this property or it couldn't take effect since it was even less complete compared to his fight with Reggie
This video makes me realise how lucky the jujustu world is that there is only maki who exists with the same Heavenly restriction as toji, as more than one screws over so many characters…
The comedian one could go: "Bro it would be so funny if i could just one shot this dude whos strong af" Coolest part of it is that it would be actually rlly funny
I think its a bit of an oversight not to mention Nanami's black flash. we have no indication that he landed a black flash vs Dagon however if he did land one against Toji/maki there's plenty of evidence to suggest they would take damage. Add to that he's been cited landing three in a row there's a nonzero chance the fight ends in a draw or a win for Nanami
Nanami would have to land an attack to use black flash and even if he did maki has shown the ability to fight through pretty serious injuries with very little difficulty so I doubt nanami would end in a draw even if he did land a black flash
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 we haven't ever seen a 7/3 black flash so it's all speculation but I don't think Nanami wins I just doubt maki or toji keep all of their limbs
Higaruma could confiscate their senses and make them basically like a rock. Making them unable to see hear or feel, but they would still have their sixth soul sense, and strength. They would still win, but I assume they would be in a completely motionless state just getting punched around for a little because they’re trying to use their 5 sense Then they just counter punch him when they start using their 6th sense.
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 they would have to consent. If they don’t consent throw the comment out the window. Idk why they wouldn’t join the domain. Maki joined nayoyas.
@@reyhands1603 Maki joined naoya's specifically to kill him. If she realizes she's at a disadvantage she ain't going in there. Heck, you could argue the whole trial effect thing wouldn't hit maki/toji because the domain wouldn't recognize them
YES WE LOVE TAKABA GETTING SOME LOVE!!!! I would love their fight because Toji/Maki are mostly serious straight forward people, and their interactions between the clown that is Takaba sounds hilarious
I feel like Kirara would be able to mark Toji and Maki, but with that said, I also think they could potentially either brute force through it, or figure it out without needing knowledge of constellations.
Todo's biggest advantage is that he can easily disarm toji and maki by switching with their weapons. He can also swap with the inventory curse and likely exorcise it and remove a good portion of toji's arsenal.
Something interesting when it comes to Yuji vs Toji/Maki is the idea of them using their soul splitting swords. We see with Mahito that when he tries to use Idle Transfiguration that Sukuna stops him. The only reason he spares him at first is because he kinda likes him. So if Maki or Toji hit Yuji with the sword once in a way that doesn't kill him it's possible that Sukuna retaliates and injures or kills them. That's a lot of ifs though, I still think Maki/Toji win.
Sukuna blocking the sword does not mean he would injure them back. Mahito literally needed to touch Yuji to Touch Yuji/Sukuna soul. If anything Sukuna will break the sword and Maki and Toji would still stomp Yuji.
@@DrGandW she pobably is weak tho.after all, He called her weak when they were younger and he wasnt as strong. Ofc she could have gotten stronger but the way he still Acts with her i doubt much changed.
Not saying it would necessarily give him the win but one huge advantage that Todo would have is that he could just get rid of Toji’s cursed spirit or any of their cursed tools. Just a little clap and he switches them with a rock. I definitely think that’s something todo would think of any we know he’s be able to do it since it worked with playful cloud
Hot take I think toji and maki would potentially lose to a large number of these characters. Semmed like the fellas here were more brainstorming ways they could win than doing an unbiased comparison
Is there any actual instance of HR users resisting cursed techniques in the manga? Not DEs but cursed techniques themselves. My understanding that it's a matter of detection. Since HR users have no cursed energy, they can't be sensed through cursed energy which negs sure hits.
Yh ranta literally died after using an attack similar to curse speech on maki and stated Maki was resisting it. So yes they have been shown to resist CT in the manga and to the point that the user of the technique died because he was trying harder to make it work. They also can't be targeted by some CT because they don't have CE.
As of the recent Gojo vs Sukuna fight, it looks like Gojo is somehow also physically superior to both. He pretty much dominated a 20-finger equivalent Sukuna (who used his old head as the last finger instead) inside and outside Malevolent Shrine, who does have Domain Amplification and was still comfortable going against Yuji and Maki at the same time at 15 fingers.
The argument about bird strike is that Gojo only survived bc of limitless and didn’t actually get hit by it. But if he did get hit he also would’ve died. I think bird strike is a top tier technique bc it uses the strongest binding bow of giving up your life for the power. It’s not mei meis life obviously but the life of anything is still significant to drawing power from your own limitations. Just one bird would do good damage and the main reason it’s so deadly is how many birds she can use. It would be very difficult if not impossible to dodge them all which is why I feel the only reason Gojo survived is bc of limitless
Charles has 1 really good feat for his AP. Charles was able to shred right through Domain Expansion Amped Hakari’s durability with his weapon and tore out a chunk of his abdomen in a very similar way to Kashimo against Base Hakari at the end of 188. Keep in mind, post Shibuya Yuji after getting fully healed tried to headbutt Base Hakari and did 0 damage. This is the same Yuji that could snap Base Yuta’s CE filled sword and match his physical stats And even Megumi with a severely incomplete Domain gets a 120% boost, which is the same level as hitting a black flash. Hakari has a fully mastered domain and should get a bigger boost, and Charles attack blew through his durability. Not even Kashimo’s attacks were that devastating to DE Hakari in chapter 187. But yea Charles speed is lower than Base Hakari so yea. As for Yuji vs Toji and Maki, I agree that Yuji loses more than he wins, but if he hits a black flash rush on any of them, I think he’s absolutely folding them. It’s just the odds of him hitting it against their speed and enhanced senses are low, but if he does I don’t think they’re tanking it Megumi is interesting, since he was able to just barely predict/react to a bloodlusted Toji trying to full speed blitz him while Megumi himself was bloodlusted. You can argue that Toji in this instinctive bloodlusted state was just using his body’s raw speed rather than the enhanced senses that we saw Maki use. And we know that despite Maki being the same physical speed, the senses let her fight people much faster than herself. But we ask have no concrete proof that Toji didn’t have that ability in that state either. Megumi in the Culling Games while fully healthy should be able to repeat any of his Shibuya feats, and Domain Expansion makes that go up even more. But I dunno if he has any way to put them down besides the drowning in Shadows which may or may not work Higurama would be interesting if his ability 1.) Activates without them having to consent and 2.) If he confiscates their heavenly restriction which would put them to a level relative to pre awakened Maki that lost to Ogi or maybe vaguely stronger I think Uro, Ryu, Yuta, Kashimo, Hakari, Yuki, and Kenjaku all scale above Toji and Maki physically by a significant margin. Toji is hard capped at being under Teen Gojo level, and Maki so long as she’s Toji’s equal is also capped to Teen Gojo level. Gojo goes on train for a year to master his abilities that he learned from his awakening against Toji, and then went on to train and gain experience for 10 more years to bring it to an awakening + 11 years stronger over the Gojo that Toji needed to spend days physically and mentally exhausting as well as draining his stamina and CE, and then after all of that he needed to sneak Gojo with a stab to the vitals. Rika is a threat to JJK0 Gojo, and that’s a pretty hard confirmed plot point of the prequel. JJK0 Rika, JJK0 Yuta, and JJK0 Geto scale relative to each other, and Rika on her own is a threat that Gojo has to risk his life to stop while a hypothetical Geto and Rika together solo 99% of the Jujutsu World, Gojo included, and Gojo has a hunch that Geto is right since he’d never start a fight he can’t win. (Keep in mind JJK0 Gojo ≠ Current Gojo). Anyways, current Yuta, current Rika, Hakari etc are stronger than JJK0 Rika who’s relative to JJK0 Gojo who is 11 years stronger than Teen Gojo who beat Toji. So these class of ‘Special Grade Sorcerer’ tier fighters are on a different level from Toji and Maki To kinda hammer that fact in, speed wise, Toji is comparable to or vaguely faster than 3 Finger Sukuna who’s nerfed by having no heart while also holding back, while Base Yuta and Partially Manifested Rika are being compared to 15 Finger Sukuna’s Shibuya feats. Including his physical stats, Domain Expansion, Fire arrows etc. So again, another massive scaling and narrative gap between the Special Grade Sorcerer tiers and Toji/Current Maki. I’m pretty confident Maki can and will surpass Toji tho As for Base Hakari, him with his Domain Amp was able to somewhat keep up with Kashimo who’s naturally bloodlusted and was going in for the kill. I think Kashimo scales above Maki and Toji so I think Hakari can survive and hit Jackpot again. Keep in mind it wouldn’t drag on to multiple rolls being needed as Hakari would be fighting to KO or kill unlike Kashimo who he wanted to keep alive and conscious. And Maki/Toji doesn’t have the speed to deal with Hakari’s literally faster than lightning speed RCT Everyone else is Special Grade Sorcerer tier without any special conditions needed.
With the seance technique resurrecting him, you could argue that Toji doesn't have a soul at all to cut. His physical body is everything he ever was and will be. His body contains his consciousness in its entirety and you can't cut what doesn't exist.
Finally finished the video and oh boy is that Yuki section spicy now. You're probably going to do a video on Yuki later but I still feel like her hax can pull her a dub. Her showing in the latest chapter at least shows that a stalemate is definitely on the table. Curious to hear what your thoughts are.
Something that I think was overlooked about Domain Expansion was the heavy stat boost that comes along with it. For example if we think it takes 3 Granite Blasts to kill them without Domain expansion it might just take 1 with DE.
I feel like maki and toji have no way of defending kashimos lighning attack. Its a sure hit attack and maki nor toji can really defend from something that is 30.000 faster than a bullet
@@make-a-wish2224 Hakari didn't really react to it, it was his automatic RCT, and that was only shown with the sure hit lightning that was starting to form. That was still voltage accumulating, not the charge discharging (That's where the speed comes in, as that is when the electrons are moving freely). When he got hit with a real lightning Bolt he didn't react to it at all. His automatic RCT is also insanely fast, it was healing his Body faster than it was getting poisoned by chlorine gas.
Toji would be so jealous of Hakari's gambling skills
He’d probably become gambling friends with him
“I will never be caught lacking like that again” was probably Gojo's exact thought process
and then he was caught lackin again
@@coltonread3755 gojo after he gets unsealed “i will absolutely not be caught lacking like that again”
@@mumenrider1908 let’s see if he goes for the lackin hat trick against sukuna 😭
@@leo.w1078 head ain’t rollin fights still goin 😭🗣️🗣️
@@leo.w1078nah gojo is him
I see it now, Yuji will take two hits from Toji then suddenly… Toji trembles. Glimpses of their shared childhood start to flash before his eyes. “I can’t keep hurting my dear brother, not for any money” he utters as he drops the Inverted Spear Of Heaven, tears streaming down his face. 😂
this would be so funny if it happened .
😂
“Not for any money”😂😂
Does Yuji has something like Tsukishima's Book Of The End
@@fardin_king6817 naw, it's just that he had two situations where people thought of him as their brother, though only the second one had some sort of foundation, meanwhile the first one... Todo is kind of a Schizoid
Imagine toji cutting takaba in half and he makes some joke about there being a "2 for 1 discount" and now theres 2 takabas
Toji and Maki beat Miwa? 1 minute in and we already have problems.
(Read the text i put on screen) i just had to agree with the non believer to keep the video going
Big fax, if we bein fr... Miwa solos the entire community.😤
@@BrokenRonin Question how is Toji Negg diffing Mach 3 naoya (with out naoya landing a hit) and not Yuji, megumi, mei mei or kusakabe.
@@asura3229 1. Mach 3 Naoya is exclusive to his curse form. Its not at all relevant to his human scaling.
2. Me and No Operator very clearly state that Naoya/Naobito would be the hardest fights up to that point (and by then we covered yuji, megumi, kusakabe, and mei mei)
@@asura3229maki spanked human naoya before being fully realized. Then after becoming equal to toji beat a verison of naoya that was tiers above the human naoya that maki fought. It's an easy fight at this point for maki/toji.
I see Maki and Toji being very acrobatic against Mechamaru and dismantling that robot. I honestly see them going crazy with it having more fun than they would against the majority of other opponents
Kashimo, the fact he’s on the war path for Sakuna
“Rock em Sock‘em Robot” + “Rosie the DeRiveter” 💀 I love that visual.
The world's biggest, most dangerous jungle gym.
Toji vs Big Mechamaru is the sequel to Levi vs Zeke
@andormak8402 With different ending.
Nanami - Using his Cursed Technique.
Toji/Maki - I HAVE NO SUCH WEAKNESSES.
They I guess overlooked that Nanamis ability CREATES the weak point. That being said he still dies.
@@CerotheDemon Yeah true, if Nanami can create weak points on inanimate objects as well he can on Toji/Maki. But it's gonna be useless, I think even if he hits them with Ratio they'll just shrug it off.
😂😂😂😂
@@prabhatdeshmukh9592I do think it would do some kinda damage if it hit. I don't think he will be able to hit them tho
@@dankrigby5621ifit hit
You forgot something with Todo, he can switch places with Toji's/Maki's equipment and or snatch them from their hands with boogie woogie, makeing them have to fight hand to hand what basically is a teleporting gorilla who can use their own wepons proficitly against them.
Yeah bro very good point.
Yeah, i was waiting for them to bring that up but looks like they forgot. But still Toji and Maki wins against Todo but the switching equipments was overlooked.
1.They don't need weapons to begin with for sorcerers who are grade 1 and below.
2. He cannot use their main weapons proficiently. Soul Katana requires the user to be able to see souls and inverted spear requires the target to have a CT. Basically in Todo's hands against Toji and Maki they'd just be regular weapons.
Todo is also still extremely slow in comparison and and would be beat even if he has playful cloud.
@@emmasongbiaye2205 it not about using. If todo just remove weapons from their hands. Then it will just come to hand hand fight.
@@SatoruGojo-ts3ku he loses either way. Maki could stab and kill a grade 1 sorcerer with her bare hands and they have superior stats.
In defense of the principal guitar guy, I think he was holding back because when Gojo came he told him not to kill him so they can interrogate him
Yea
Tru and he even defeated yasamichi yaga (Tokyo school principal). So, he has to be stronger than that
@@sriramsedimbi6833 that was a 2v1
He barerly did anything, unless he was just trying to hold that guy off for gojo.
Yes ... but u would figure if hes that much stronger he wouldnt have a hard time disarming him or knovking him out without killing him just like Gojo did within seconds
The reason stated for why Mahito’s victims couldn’t be healed is because there wasn’t any damage to the soul, Mahito just changed the shape. Actual damage could probably be healed if one is good enough at RCT.
Maybe spoilers!!!
I think the soul.cant be healed via evt, bc maki sliced sukunas finger with the soul liberation blade, which damages the soul not the body, and he still had the cut scar after his "bath" gaining full control over his body and healing it. So it could be a hint that his soul couldn't be healed.
@@dankrigby5621 I think that’s just reversed curse technique having trouble with scars, but it could be
@@dankrigby5621sukuna healed his soul and went back to the same powerlevel he was at when he fought Kashimo or close to it.
Everyone Else: How do we beat Toji and Maki???
Toji and Maki: How do we beat Gojo???
How do we escape gojo*
Takaba just mocks both of them and negs them.
@@chusay7006 He gets one shot
@@make-a-wish2224 takaba ties woth gojo ngl
@@porpoise8160 not even close icl
I'd love to see Younger Gojou run the Curse Spirit and Sorcerer gauntlet (pre and post Toji awakening if it's required).
Well if pre awakened pls remember to not use his feats in his weakest state against toji.
he could probably beat every cursed spirit pre awakening, and most sorcerers besides people like Yuki or Sukuna. The main issue for him pre awakening is that he doesn't have a Domain Expansion so he could easily be screwed if he gets stuck in a strong DE
@@Dell-ol6hb Funny enough most domains still can't get through Gojo's infinity, like Mahito and Dagon's. But Jogo can probably just cook him
all domain sure hits go through Gojo's infinity, since attacks do not exist until they hit on an individual Gojo's infinity would not be able to detect nor stop it.@@tianshuhuang5431
@@tianshuhuang5431nah, they don’t travel, they just instantly there, that’s why it’s a sure hit ability. So like unless simple domain or a domain clash, Gojo pre awakening dies to any domain
Bro this is your best video dude, every single argument that i came up in my mind you thought the same and you address it. I love every single moment
Angel turned out to be waaaaay stronger than we thought, to the point where Sukuna goes for trickery instead of tackling her head on, Jacob’s Ladder was an OD attack that seriously hurt Sukuna(although he fixed it up with Reverse CE)
OD? What does that mean?
@@yasukiofficial1541 it just means insanely good but not unbeatable if you know it exists and can get around or react to it kinda like a frame 1 invincible move or a character with good mixups in a fighting game
@@yasukiofficial1541it’s an acronym for “over dose” in most contexts. It just means it’s really powerful or does a lot
Br and NoOp are both stepping up the game fr, almost 2 HOURS of jjk I am enthralled ! (PS-We need a special grade sorcerers versus series)
Not gojo tho. It would be like a 1min video
A point with Megumi's fight that I wished you covered, It is shown numerous times that he is willing to Kamikaze with Mahoraga when against an enemy he perceives as being unable to beat. How does Toji/Maki deal with Mahoraga + Megumi?
I agree
I mean 10 shadows is from the zenin clan and both maki and toji should know it at least if even better than gojos limitless.
I don’t think they would give megumi the chance. He has no tricks to hide against the 2.
@@sirnonsense5033hat is if yoji didn't kill himself the moment he recognize megumi
@@ZAPRST8879to not pay child support
Well megumi would die bcuz he has to tame maho which he can’t do but still would come down to toji/maki vs maho
This seems like its going to be an insane video. Great content, seriously.
Hakari actually does have an instant hit, the domain gives everyone inside the rules, which innately increases risk and therefore Hakari's odds get better.
I believe damage from the soul splitter blade is able to be healed with RCT. An important thing to know is that the body=soul, and when one is affected, the other follows along. The reason Idle Transfiguration can’t be healed is because the soul isn’t “damaged,” it’s shape is just shifted around. With the soul splitter blade, it targets the soul directly, but the soul can be healed simply by healing the body.
Thank you, i feel like ronin thinks that the Soul splitter blade is a instant win if ti hits but thats not the case. Anyone with RCT can win easily
On top of that, strong enough characters can endure durability negating attacks that target the soul, like Nanami with Mahito.
And we’ve already seen Hakari defend against something that’s supposed to be virtually impossible to block with his CE Quantity and Output though even among ‘special grade levelI’ his situation is an exception
@@ladlad3179 Yeah but there are like 6 people with it so it usually is an instant win. Also not everyone with rct is stronger than them anyway.
That statement from kenjaku was debunked by mahito on the spot wasn't it? I don't think RCT can heal the damage to the soul tbh. It's not something that RCT should heal bcoz if damage to the soul could be healed. It would make RCT users essentially immortal.
Damage to the soul damages the body but damage to the body doesn’t affect the soul
Everyone is forgetting one very important thing about Megumi's domain expansion. You need to reinforce your feet with cursed energy to prevent yourself from falling into the shadow. And since neither Maki nor Toji have any cursed energy, the domain is an instant win provided they actually fall into the shadow and don't find some way to dodge.
I see why you would think this, but that simply isnt the case. Chapter 110 pg4 shows Toji standing on Megumi's shadows, and in chapter 113 Megumi says that his domain wouldn't work on Toji even if he had enough energy to expand it
Toji literally slipped inside Megumi shadow what are you on.
@@zedantyorant because megumi opened w whole for 1 person to escape and break both barriers please use your brain.
@@manmanmanman632 please use your brain enough to realize I meant Megumi vs Toji.
Dont waste brain power insulting people, use it to read
still, both maki and toji make the *choice* to enter domains, so whether or not it can get them, they still need to be in the domain for that.
Against todo, he literally can steel their weapons, and even Toji’s inventory, he has some advantages
For real, people forget that If you damage his cursed spirit, toji all of his weapons, If yuta says "die" toji may even handle with, but his spirit would not be so lucky
Toji can just beat Todo with bare punches, no need of weapons.
He gets shitstomped regardless. Toji and Maki are not dependant on their tools to win, and their tools are as good precisely because they are the ones using them. What good is the soul splitter sword in Todo's hands if by the time he makes a swing, Toji and Maki would pummel his ass from 5 directions since he isn't a cursed spirit. Todo would join Ino to get a plastic surgery to reconstruct their faces
Maki/toji blitzes the crap outta him if we consider the speed scaling
@@Tyler_Frenzy todo literally tanked a blackflash from mahito and still had enough reflexes to clap his hand, not sure if toji would be able to one shot him with a punch that easily
Toji and Maki can simply say:
"Ok... but I don't care" punch a person in the face say: "I won" and the other person COULDN'T DO SHIT ABOUT IT.
@harshitdhiman9638 To be fair the fact they can punch someone like Yuta probably is already a win... Atleast I think that's what Toji would say after losing. I mean if I were fighting peak Mike Tyson and I could hit solid one on him... I would count this as a victory if you understand what I mean.
You're right anyway tho.
@Harshit Dhiman yh Yuta would get speed blitz and 1shot
@@emmasongbiaye2205 it's a low-mid diff for Yuta lmao... don't kid yourself
@@emmasongbiaye2205 dont get ahead of yourself, you almost reached the meat riding lvl
@@emmasongbiaye2205 you are delusional if you think that
This video is fire the type of video that makes me wanna reread jjk you’re like a jjk swagkage and I mean this in the best possible way great content all around🙏🏾
A part we’re ignoring about Kashimo is that his lightning discharge is like a domain’s surehit and his reinforced attacks cannot be blocked. The lightning discharge is so potent it removed a body part each time it was used, but Hakari could just consistently heal automatically. Even if they sense the static build up, it’s still gonna hit.
I’d agree with operator that it’s a 50/50 for who wins.
ALL OF THIS PROVED TO BE FALSE.
Nah, it's 100 % for kashimo favour due to the speed gap they had, like if maki struggling to keep up against anomalies Mach 3 speed, you really think she can keep up against a guy who fast as a lightning?
@@tigerriderminecraftjava5097well Hakari was keeping up with him speed wise and he was even stated to be faster than him at the end of his jackpot. And maki is faster than hakari
@@ДюсековИльяс proof? No headcanons
@@ДюсековИльяс proof?
We now know that Higaruma can confiscate cursed tools 😭
True but Toji and Maki are immune to domains
@@PotatoGamer-rg4nn their tools are not
@@skkhammuansangngaihte4989And they gonna trial the tools? While slap higuruma ass?
@@skkhammuansangngaihte4989 ok time to get boxing
@@skkhammuansangngaihte4989 Their tools cannot be tried for crimes. You don’t arrest a gun, you arrest the shooter.
When you guys got to megumi, you forgot to take Mahoraga into account.
That'll be too much though I honestly don't think Toji/Maki would survive a domain from Megumi not because megumi is Stronger but because Toji had been shown to fall into megumi shadow at Shibuya you could argue that he didn't see it coming and he can run on water but IMO they'd sink into the shadow of he were to use his Domain in time/if he manages to not get speed blitz and 1 shot and then use his Domain. Toji could also just out run it though we don't know how fast the domain actually expands and even Yuji could move while Mahito was expanding his. Mahoraga 1 v 1 loses to Toji because he is a CT and Tojis has the inverted spear. He could lose to Maki if she takes off his head the soil katana but I don't think that'll happen because mahoraga's Body didn't get separated after taking sukunas Dismantle despite the wall behind it being damaged as well which mean it cut through it's body and was still standing. Also VC naoya was fast enough to heal himself back after the split soul Katana cut him in half
Mahoraga is a wild card who would kill both toji and megumi.
Best case scenario for Megumi is a stalemate, worst case Mahoraga gets negged by ISoH since it's technically a cursed technique
@@emmasongbiaye2205 yea but domains dont really work on them plus theyd prolly just kill him easily even in it
@@guyhathansaintil5218 well Megumi has a barrierless domain so I think it would still work
I’m surprised Toji’s chain cursed tool wasn’t mentioned much because of its seemingly near infinite range if he’s able to attack his other weapon to it he could extend his range dramatically and against opponents such as Ultimate Mechamaru he could create chains large enough to entangle and immobilize his mech form
I’m not sure the chain is strong enough. It was never shown to be that durable, though it’s probably isn’t weak
@@bananabanana484I would agree it seems that in exchange for its infinite length it lacks durability
Only 5 minutes in, but this is such a fun video. Y'all got great chemistry together, so fun to listen to!
CHRIS!
WHAT CHRIS!!!!!!!!!!
@@BethRipley-ex8sv I'm a fan, can you blame me?
Toji feels like the embodiment of “There’s no freebie’s here, payment is in the form of ass, money, or possibly food. And if, you ain’t got nothing than you getting folded like a chair.” When it comes to females characters.
or?
I'd say, "and" fits him better
he beats tf outta you, steals your wallet, and leaves.
Absolute BANGER of a vid. Y’all have yet to miss fr ‼️‼️🔥🔥🤝🏾
I only came here for that thumbnail tho, having itadori on the other side of Gojo‘a ‘red’ technique is CRAZY
Yuji was incredibly injured when uraume attacked
This may just be my favorite video on this Channel.
Aye I'm glad you enjoyed it! Gonna do some more gauntlet style content like this soon
@@BrokenRonin nice always happy to hear can’t wait bro keep up the good work.
coming back after Shinjuku and seeing some of these takes is hilarious bro, justice for Kusakabe cause outright in Shinjuku we’re told he’s the strongest Grade 1
"I think it would be funny if i molly whopped you right now" haha imagine gojo opens up his domain and instead of freezing up like jogo hes just like lol what am i looking at.
infinite knowledge vs complete ignorance need to see this fight fr
Gojo's Domain wouldn't work on Toji though.
@@emmasongbiaye2205 I think his 0.2s domain might work against Toji. In Shibuya his domain activation was so fast the barrier didn't even form and it affected everyone within the area
@@Jeff-tu8gd Wow! this is a interesting point tho, however what If gojo's domain closed really quickly within the 0.2 seconds?
He aint all that
26:56 I think what Mei Mei meant was that Yuji is the first one beside Kusukabe to be on a grade 1 level
Kusakabe was already a grade 1 and Yuji was nominated for grade 1, not only that but Mei Mei says that Yuji is on par with a grade 1 sorcerer
Gojo stomps Toji that’s a given Yuta Yuki, and Kenjaku vs Toji all fights are a fun matchup but honestly I have all 3 beating Toji imo
this really felt like i was watching an old school swagekage and seth the programmer video. great stuff
I appreciate that! (Seth exactly in the best standings anymore, but I get what you mean lmao) In any case me and No Op will be doing some more gauntlet battles like these soon
bro your videos are epic, inspires me a lot, keep up the great work dude
Thank you so much! I'm really happy you enjoy the videos
Almost 2 hours of JJK discussion? Christmas came early this year.
Something to comment on about Toji and Maki vs a Granite Blast is the fact that Yuta was able to take a shot with minimal injuries just using Cursed Energy Reinforcement, and Rika who was able to block it unharmed with just her hand. Though, I do think it is possible for them to just sneak up on Ishigori like Yuta did and strike him.
@harshitdhiman9638 why not?
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 Yuta has the highest curse reinforcement in the verse so far. His durability and RCT makes him waaaay too tanky even for Toji and Maki.
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 okay but why does that mean they can't beat ishigori exactly also both maki and toji have weapons that negate cursed energy
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 No, it negates the technique not the energy. The Inverted spear of heaven only affects techniques not a large blast of cursed energy kinda like Kashimo's lightning bolt. I don't believe Maki and Toji are durable enough to survive a granite blast to the hand or face like Yuta did.
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 maki and toji would have to be hit and they have shown the ability to react to and dodge seemingly much faster attacks also kashimos lightning enters the body so it negates durability ishigoris attacks dont
“hes definitely not him” the lazy man made u eat ur words😂
Considering Kenjakus domain. He probably handles maki and toji pretty easily. Yuki with mass probably annihilates maki but toji would be harder because of isoh
Annihilates Maki?? buhahaha
Yh Maki would just be sitting there doing nothing and waiting for her.
If Yuki uses the same output of mass she's been using since the kenjaku fight started then she doesn't annihilate(assuming Yuki can land a hit on Maki) but Maki uses the split soul Kati which negs durability so maki still has better damage than Yuki.
Lmfao, the Maki downplay is hilarious
@Harshit Dhiman maki is arguably as strong as a special grade human
@Harshit Dhiman "Don't embarrass yourself", you sound like a 8 year old
Great video!!! :D Toji is such a great character!!!!! :O
Keep grinding bruh love your jjk vids gang!
10:51 I dont think so!! I am not putting their intelligence into question really but, the only reason that Megumi figured out her cursed technique was because he recalled her sister telling him about the constellations, so he had prior info.
Unless Toji/Maki has that sort of info, I am not so sure they are figuring it out that easily.
OFC, they will figure it out given they have time to do so.
Yeah toji's BIQ isnt that high tbh.
in the manga it's shown that toji was there when she talked about the constellations
I feel like for Toji vs any curse speech user can be easily solved by the “can’t kill me with sound if I move faster than it”
Skipping to where Yuta shows up in the video (my beloved)
I love these long discussion type videos, keep ‘em up!❤️❤️❤️
I know this was made before the Yuji/Maki tag team fight against Sukuna, but that display certainly would have turned this discussion around better in his favor. Than again, this is before Yuji's buffs in that fight for sure.
1:07 Toji & Maki beat Miwa? Bro what have you been smoking? xD What ever it is, I Need It To Finish this Video😂
TF2 Heavy: *Good Stuff*
We all know Megumi would end as a draw. The moment hes about to loose its gonna be all "With this treasure I summon-"
tbh there's a possibility Maki/Toji would win against Mahoraga if they use splitsoul katana to oneshot him
@@destroyart7742he doesn't have a soul and he's blitzing them no question lol
@@jfoster8624 why doesn't he have a soul 💀💀 💀 everything that have a body have a soul . also why is Mohagara blitzing them?
@@destroyart7742 shikigamas aren't real beings 😂 they are made from the shadows they aren't cursed corpses like panda. And wdym how is he blitzing them he literally was on par with 15 sukuna and was pressing gojo he would immediately slam both of them if summoned
@@jfoster8624 and this is stated where?
Naoya actually healed from soul splitter already. The Katana Guy hit him with it and he heals after that.
The soul splitting aspect of their swords can only be used by people that can see souls like the HR duo and Mahito. Otherwise its just a normal high grade cursed tool sword like the one Megumi used.
@@threes_leaves yeah, and the Katana guy could see souls. Mai even said she let herself get used to her full potential to show Maki how to do it.
About the match up vs Megumi, you forgot that people trapped in his domain sink into the shadow, where there is no air, unless they coat their foothold with CE. So the result depend on whether Megumi can expand his domain fast enough or set them up to use his domain
Megumi knows that Toji has no cursed energy and in chapter 113 says that he can't trap contain Toji even with his Domain. Also in chapter 110 we see him standing on Megumi's shadows with no problem
@@BrokenRonin well Maki was standing on it too so either Gege didn't gave Megumi's domain this property or it couldn't take effect since it was even less complete compared to his fight with Reggie
Remember during that Dagon fight maki still had cursed energy
This video makes me realise how lucky the jujustu world is that there is only maki who exists with the same Heavenly restriction as toji, as more than one screws over so many characters…
The comedian one could go:
"Bro it would be so funny if i could just one shot this dude whos strong af"
Coolest part of it is that it would be actually rlly funny
I think its a bit of an oversight not to mention Nanami's black flash. we have no indication that he landed a black flash vs Dagon however if he did land one against Toji/maki there's plenty of evidence to suggest they would take damage. Add to that he's been cited landing three in a row there's a nonzero chance the fight ends in a draw or a win for Nanami
Nanami would have to land an attack to use black flash and even if he did maki has shown the ability to fight through pretty serious injuries with very little difficulty so I doubt nanami would end in a draw even if he did land a black flash
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 we haven't ever seen a 7/3 black flash so it's all speculation but I don't think Nanami wins I just doubt maki or toji keep all of their limbs
@@jamie8703 We have tho, it's in the movie and it's canon since that was when he set his world record. I still don't see him winning tho
W video and concept
yall should do a another similar JJK collab this one and toji vs CS were entertaining to watch
Kenjaku and Geto being paired together will age terribly
Higaruma could confiscate their senses and make them basically like a rock. Making them unable to see hear or feel, but they would still have their sixth soul sense, and strength. They would still win, but I assume they would be in a completely motionless state just getting punched around for a little because they’re trying to use their 5 sense Then they just counter punch him when they start using their 6th sense.
How would higaruma do this if he can't trap them in his domain?
@@imanijordan-wheeler5273 they would have to consent. If they don’t consent throw the comment out the window. Idk why they wouldn’t join the domain. Maki joined nayoyas.
@@reyhands1603 but the sure hit effect still wouldn't activate and they can just leave the barrier even if they did accept entering
@@reyhands1603 Maki joined naoya's specifically to kill him. If she realizes she's at a disadvantage she ain't going in there. Heck, you could argue the whole trial effect thing wouldn't hit maki/toji because the domain wouldn't recognize them
I dont think the trial would even work on them because it wouldn't work on a rock
52:13 could Angel extinguish the heavenly restriction though? Does heavenly restriction count as a technique of sorts?
I would say probably no since I’d assume it works by targeting CE
Title: Tojo verses every sorcerer. The actual video: Tojo AND MAKI verses every sorcerer💀💀💀
I wonder if it was the same in the Maki video
YES WE LOVE TAKABA GETTING SOME LOVE!!!! I would love their fight because Toji/Maki are mostly serious straight forward people, and their interactions between the clown that is Takaba sounds hilarious
"Yuji is probably the strongest character for the next 15 characters" *3 characters later* naobito is the strongest character so far
Talking about physical power.
It’s funny coming back to this video after the revelation of Kusakabe and seeing how they disrespected him.
I feel like Kirara would be able to mark Toji and Maki, but with that said, I also think they could potentially either brute force through it, or figure it out without needing knowledge of constellations.
Thought that was SethTheProgrammer 💀 amazing video
Todo wipes the floor with Toji and Maki. He got the power of bestofriendo and takada-chan to boost his power..
Todo's biggest advantage is that he can easily disarm toji and maki by switching with their weapons. He can also swap with the inventory curse and likely exorcise it and remove a good portion of toji's arsenal.
Something interesting when it comes to Yuji vs Toji/Maki is the idea of them using their soul splitting swords. We see with Mahito that when he tries to use Idle Transfiguration that Sukuna stops him. The only reason he spares him at first is because he kinda likes him. So if Maki or Toji hit Yuji with the sword once in a way that doesn't kill him it's possible that Sukuna retaliates and injures or kills them.
That's a lot of ifs though, I still think Maki/Toji win.
I think that's becuase you can block mahitos idle transfiguration I don't think you can block soul liberation blade
Sukuna blocking the sword does not mean he would injure them back. Mahito literally needed to touch Yuji to Touch Yuji/Sukuna soul. If anything Sukuna will break the sword and Maki and Toji would still stomp Yuji.
@@jasoncarvalho588 good point
it would be funny if Mai just appears in Sukunas/Yuji's weird mind/soul thing
Imagine Kokichi Muta controlling Ultimate Mechamaru and bunch of mechamaru from far away, that would be wild since they can't find the user
If gojo calls someone weak that doesn’t mean much lol😂
Time stamp?
@@make-a-wish2224 No time stamp but it was Gojo calling Utahime weak
@@DrGandW she pobably is weak tho.after all, He called her weak when they were younger and he wasnt as strong. Ofc she could have gotten stronger but the way he still Acts with her i doubt much changed.
@@make-a-wish2224tbf gojo as a teen was a thousand times more cocky than he is now
"Lemme show you why this restriction heavenly fr"
That was a cool ass line ngl
Wild idea but like since maki and togi are confirmed to be super sonic couldnt they just, ya know run away from cursed speech
Or at least cover their ears in time
Reaction speed and speed arent the same. I'd imagine it would be the same thing that happened to uro, she reacted but a tiny bit too slow.
W Collab, W videos. 2 hours of straight fax
Not saying it would necessarily give him the win but one huge advantage that Todo would have is that he could just get rid of Toji’s cursed spirit or any of their cursed tools. Just a little clap and he switches them with a rock.
I definitely think that’s something todo would think of any we know he’s be able to do it since it worked with playful cloud
I like how "Dawg in 'em" is a legitimate mechanic in judging these fights lmao
Hot take I think toji and maki would potentially lose to a large number of these characters. Semmed like the fellas here were more brainstorming ways they could win than doing an unbiased comparison
Kashimo alone would cook this 2 bums!
Charles looks into the future
Charles sees himself on the ground
Charles gets confused and gets pummeled into the ground
Is there any actual instance of HR users resisting cursed techniques in the manga? Not DEs but cursed techniques themselves. My understanding that it's a matter of detection. Since HR users have no cursed energy, they can't be sensed through cursed energy which negs sure hits.
Yh ranta literally died after using an attack similar to curse speech on maki and stated Maki was resisting it. So yes they have been shown to resist CT in the manga and to the point that the user of the technique died because he was trying harder to make it work. They also can't be targeted by some CT because they don't have CE.
Toji overwhelmed the soul of the person he was revived through and Maki could power through Ranta's CT
As of the recent Gojo vs Sukuna fight, it looks like Gojo is somehow also physically superior to both.
He pretty much dominated a 20-finger equivalent Sukuna (who used his old head as the last finger instead) inside and outside Malevolent Shrine, who does have Domain Amplification and was still comfortable going against Yuji and Maki at the same time at 15 fingers.
Btw for Chimera Shadow Garden you have to reinforce your feet with curse energy or you just fall in and sufficate
U really eating your words with that kusikabe slander after the recent chapters
So funny how in cursed spirit video and this video, last character just flipped the script and have to think how toji/maki can do against them
The argument about bird strike is that Gojo only survived bc of limitless and didn’t actually get hit by it. But if he did get hit he also would’ve died. I think bird strike is a top tier technique bc it uses the strongest binding bow of giving up your life for the power. It’s not mei meis life obviously but the life of anything is still significant to drawing power from your own limitations. Just one bird would do good damage and the main reason it’s so deadly is how many birds she can use. It would be very difficult if not impossible to dodge them all which is why I feel the only reason Gojo survived is bc of limitless
It would be funny if Higuruma's domain could give them cursed energy nullifying their heavenly restriction
Charles has 1 really good feat for his AP. Charles was able to shred right through Domain Expansion Amped Hakari’s durability with his weapon and tore out a chunk of his abdomen in a very similar way to Kashimo against Base Hakari at the end of 188. Keep in mind, post Shibuya Yuji after getting fully healed tried to headbutt Base Hakari and did 0 damage. This is the same Yuji that could snap Base Yuta’s CE filled sword and match his physical stats
And even Megumi with a severely incomplete Domain gets a 120% boost, which is the same level as hitting a black flash. Hakari has a fully mastered domain and should get a bigger boost, and Charles attack blew through his durability. Not even Kashimo’s attacks were that devastating to DE Hakari in chapter 187.
But yea Charles speed is lower than Base Hakari so yea.
As for Yuji vs Toji and Maki, I agree that Yuji loses more than he wins, but if he hits a black flash rush on any of them, I think he’s absolutely folding them. It’s just the odds of him hitting it against their speed and enhanced senses are low, but if he does I don’t think they’re tanking it
Megumi is interesting, since he was able to just barely predict/react to a bloodlusted Toji trying to full speed blitz him while Megumi himself was bloodlusted.
You can argue that Toji in this instinctive bloodlusted state was just using his body’s raw speed rather than the enhanced senses that we saw Maki use. And we know that despite Maki being the same physical speed, the senses let her fight people much faster than herself. But we ask have no concrete proof that Toji didn’t have that ability in that state either.
Megumi in the Culling Games while fully healthy should be able to repeat any of his Shibuya feats, and Domain Expansion makes that go up even more. But I dunno if he has any way to put them down besides the drowning in Shadows which may or may not work
Higurama would be interesting if his ability 1.) Activates without them having to consent and 2.) If he confiscates their heavenly restriction which would put them to a level relative to pre awakened Maki that lost to Ogi or maybe vaguely stronger
I think Uro, Ryu, Yuta, Kashimo, Hakari, Yuki, and Kenjaku all scale above Toji and Maki physically by a significant margin.
Toji is hard capped at being under Teen Gojo level, and Maki so long as she’s Toji’s equal is also capped to Teen Gojo level. Gojo goes on train for a year to master his abilities that he learned from his awakening against Toji, and then went on to train and gain experience for 10 more years to bring it to an awakening + 11 years stronger over the Gojo that Toji needed to spend days physically and mentally exhausting as well as draining his stamina and CE, and then after all of that he needed to sneak Gojo with a stab to the vitals.
Rika is a threat to JJK0 Gojo, and that’s a pretty hard confirmed plot point of the prequel. JJK0 Rika, JJK0 Yuta, and JJK0 Geto scale relative to each other, and Rika on her own is a threat that Gojo has to risk his life to stop while a hypothetical Geto and Rika together solo 99% of the Jujutsu World, Gojo included, and Gojo has a hunch that Geto is right since he’d never start a fight he can’t win. (Keep in mind JJK0 Gojo ≠ Current Gojo).
Anyways, current Yuta, current Rika, Hakari etc are stronger than JJK0 Rika who’s relative to JJK0 Gojo who is 11 years stronger than Teen Gojo who beat Toji. So these class of ‘Special Grade Sorcerer’ tier fighters are on a different level from Toji and Maki
To kinda hammer that fact in, speed wise, Toji is comparable to or vaguely faster than 3 Finger Sukuna who’s nerfed by having no heart while also holding back, while Base Yuta and Partially Manifested Rika are being compared to 15 Finger Sukuna’s Shibuya feats. Including his physical stats, Domain Expansion, Fire arrows etc.
So again, another massive scaling and narrative gap between the Special Grade Sorcerer tiers and Toji/Current Maki. I’m pretty confident Maki can and will surpass Toji tho
As for Base Hakari, him with his Domain Amp was able to somewhat keep up with Kashimo who’s naturally bloodlusted and was going in for the kill. I think Kashimo scales above Maki and Toji so I think Hakari can survive and hit Jackpot again. Keep in mind it wouldn’t drag on to multiple rolls being needed as Hakari would be fighting to KO or kill unlike Kashimo who he wanted to keep alive and conscious. And Maki/Toji doesn’t have the speed to deal with Hakari’s literally faster than lightning speed RCT
Everyone else is Special Grade Sorcerer tier without any special conditions needed.
this vid about to be insane🔥🔥
Banger video 🔥 great video
How many Pandas would Yaga have to make to take out Toji/Maki??
With the seance technique resurrecting him, you could argue that Toji doesn't have a soul at all to cut. His physical body is everything he ever was and will be. His body contains his consciousness in its entirety and you can't cut what doesn't exist.
Finally finished the video and oh boy is that Yuki section spicy now. You're probably going to do a video on Yuki later but I still feel like her hax can pull her a dub. Her showing in the latest chapter at least shows that a stalemate is definitely on the table. Curious to hear what your thoughts are.
Her only hax is that she hits hard
@@kapeprt3408 Hits hard + doesn’t seem to be dodgeable or Sukuna probably would have + flies out of physical attack range
@@kapeprt3408 thats not even correct she has garuda
@@DrGandW explain the last two
Something that I think was overlooked about Domain Expansion was the heavy stat boost that comes along with it. For example if we think it takes 3 Granite Blasts to kill them without Domain expansion it might just take 1 with DE.
But whats the point if they arent in the Domain. The boost is only temporarly within the Domain.
Ishigori really be outputin'
Came back to rewatch this video and barely noticed the Donkey Kong Country music in the background
I wonder if the grandma seance could bring Suguru Geto back even tho Kenjaku has his body rn
yo lmfao at 9:08 with the jogo diss too
I feel like maki and toji have no way of defending kashimos lighning attack. Its a sure hit attack and maki nor toji can really defend from something that is 30.000 faster than a bullet
Its not actually that fast otherwise hakari wouldnt have been able to react to it
@@make-a-wish2224 it is, hakari is also thousands of times faster than a bullet if he reacted to it
@@davidb1892 narrativly speaking it makes 0 sense.
@@make-a-wish2224 Hakari didn't really react to it, it was his automatic RCT, and that was only shown with the sure hit lightning that was starting to form. That was still voltage accumulating, not the charge discharging (That's where the speed comes in, as that is when the electrons are moving freely). When he got hit with a real lightning Bolt he didn't react to it at all. His automatic RCT is also insanely fast, it was healing his Body faster than it was getting poisoned by chlorine gas.
Takaba using a taco bell bell, metal rod or a yeet to destroy someone would be funny😂