DOPE CONVERSATIONS: Zulaikha Patel | Protesting for African Hair at Pretoria Girls High
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Zulaikha Patel came to prominence for leading a silent march at Pretoria Girls High, at the age of 14, fighting for the recognition of African Hair and the discrimination against those with certain types of hairstyles.
She currently runs an NPC, founded in 2022, called Dare To Change - with the mission to eliminate the poverty of literacy, that children in South Africa face. Founded after the release of her debut best-selling book , “My Coily Crowny Hair”.
She engages in advisory work on youth development , the advancement of women and girls within various organisations and continues to advocate and speak publicly, both locally and internationally.
She is currently studying towards an LLB law degree via UNISA.
I'm a proud father of 3 beautiful daughters:
1. Afrika Phoenix (10)
2. Nkanyezi Kulxa (4)
3. Zuri (0) 3 months
I want them to comfortably love their natural hair, without feeling like they need weaves or wigs, or need to cut or style their hair to unnecessarily conform.
Well! Good luck with that, at the end of the day it's their choice. Fellow South Africans nobody is forcing us into wearing weaves and it doesn't mean we aren't proud of our identity. Sometimes we rock our natural hair, sometimes we wear weaves it depends on on how we feel that particular day.
I didn't know about Zuri❤
@@Sbongakonke02 He has stated before that he's now a proud father of 7. Congrats to the newest member of the God Pen clan!
3 months...Yoo Penuel is fast mos
@@MarciaNdlovu-zp3hgthis!!!! It really isn't that big of a deal. The women who wear wigs and weaves aren't the ones making a noise but the ones who are "woke". Let women do whatever it is they want to with their appearance. Why don't you come for their press on/gel nails, their clothes, make up, lashes, these are also add ons but alway come for their hair. Honestly it doesn't take away from their africanness. As long as that skin is still brown, that mother tongue is spoeken, that history is learnt and customs are practiced, not all is lost. Hair is the least of our worries.
I love this girl and Im still watching the interview so I. I don't know if you've addressed this BUT... We cannot ignore the privilege that she inherently has because if her "mixed" features and her "Indian" side. I don't wear wigs either and I am a black woman HOWEVER I know there are many black women who would in fact pay to wear afro hair that resembles hers, or who would not bother to wear wigs IF they had natural hair that looked like hers. She has societal advantage in being mixed, naturally pretty, and light skinned. It may seem like a shallow view, but I believe that these nuances are relevant in how we as black women view ourselves and each other and how we are perceived in society. I support her view but I don't fully relate as a 100% black girl.
You raise valid points but many will refuse to hear them
Your opinion is completely valid. However, I think its very important that our language to describe ourselves as black people changes. She is no more "naturally pretty" than another black woman. She doesn't have "good" hair. You hair is just as beautiful. We have to change the way we perceive ourselves first. Sure, the world will shame you as a black women and deem your standard of beauty as inferior, but you must block out the opinions of a racist world. This same racist world made fun of black women 20 years ago, saying your lips are too big and you're fat for having a voluptuous figure, now they risk their lives getting a bbl and inject their lips with fillers because they were envying you along. I so wish black women would see how beautiful you are and embrace your afrocentric features. Cause the beauty industry sees it and they capitilise off of your insecurities to make a billion dollar industry every year. Even now, white women are getting braids in order to emulate your beauty. Embrace your natural beauty first and trust that the world will follow.
You just have low self-esteem, and I don't blame you. Every time you put on fake hair or see fake hair, you begin to hate yourself. Its everywhere on media and everyday life.
Atleast you still watching....I stopped at 2 minutes😂😂😂 The world does not reward afros that are 4C and dont grow pass shoulder length😂 and even if it did...the time it takes mantaining it and grooming it is ridiculous...I remember when I started my natural hair journey....wash day was a full day job...getting my oils ready...prewash twists...washing and deep conditioning...Moisturising with LOC method😂😂😂 Not forgetting financial budgetting it requires..Anyways, the natural beauty idea for a non hybrid black girl with basic features is not practical in the real world especially when you not born with features that society deems as conventionally beautful.
Lastly, when women raise these issues it is not that they have low self esteem...they are informing you of their reality and how the world treats them based on their looks. Yes trends come and go but there are fundamentals of beauty which have stayed the same...From skin colour, tone, texture, overall appearance, body size, proportion and and and....
When a large number of people spend their last money on hair or make up...its not just for fun but the doors that 'conventional beauty' can open for you and there are many doors
By the way women with large instagram following and travelling the world for free all look the same and its not the basic natural look of a b/girl with short natural 4C hair😂
African women are beautiful without wearing wigs. Make-up and what's what. My hair is in dreadlock . I feel amazing as an affrican girl. My hair is healthy, and I live my life without the concerns of others. I love it.
That sounds Nice 😉
Bring her back. We loved her so mcuch. Had to send these to my nieces to watch
Wow, she talks the talk. Not ashamed to be of African descendent. Big up. I hope more women can be as proud of their heritage as her
It’s so funny watching Penuel melt in his chair in front of this woman. 😂
She’s pushing an important message. Be proudly black! Reminds me of the Malcom X speech“who taught you to hate yourself?” “Who taught you to hate being what God made you”
beauty with brains. she's all that. We need more smart ladies like Zulaikha
Studying history ORGANICALLY... is one of the coolest things. Seeing things or institutions or businesses or people who intrigue you, and digging into the history.
The weave and wig addiction needs to end...Im coloured but I also had a similar problem in my family, many coloured people in western cape and Northern want to feel more in touch with their "White" and not their "Khoi/Black side". I remember my teacher told me in Grade 2 that I need to cut my hair or gel it because Afros were not allowed ...this was a very short afro.. Its still a problem to this day, My Mother even wanted me to relax my hair during certain occasions. I dont onow if it is an identity crisis but it seems to be one. The Weave and Wig addiction needs to end and Young black girls need to see young black women wear their hair natural...Black people are taught to hate themselves.
I think it depends on preference, I prefer to wear wigs because I don't like how my hair looks and how difficult it is to manage
@@sphesihleslingile6743 No. You have been brainwashed to not love yourself. I can already see this with my nieces, they want straight hair because everything they see pushes White is beautiful and balck is ugly. Most blacl/coloured women also never learned how to care for their hair, I had a maths teacher in high School, Miss Dumse. She was a classy black woman and always dressed beautifully and stylish...she obviously comes from a wealthy family but I have never seen her or her daughter wear weave or wig, they all had beautiful locks and maintained it beautifully. Why cant black girls ever wear that?
UA-cam tutorials exist @@sphesihleslingile6743
Thank you for pointing out the racism of Indian communities towards African people.
That is totally wrong bro mejority of the indian people never think like that about African people or other people...bcause we are also black or brown
@swarajbharat5891 where do you come from Bro? I'm sorry. However, here in South Africa 🇿🇦 things are not the way you think, Bro. Apartheid has made sure that we are divided for sure. Our experiences as the African community are very painful.
@@tebohomohohlo405 in ground reality we both Africa and India suffered so much in the past attacked and tyranny by invaders for 1200 years and Britishers and they ruled more than 250 years so we faced so much pain and they looted us so we both sufferd and suffering still but we doing haard work
We are growing fast but we faces lots of pain also power to you bro
love you brother
We are son of 1 mother earth 🙏
Protect them be vegan 🙏
@swarajbharat5891 I love you, Bro. May you continue to be a light
What a an amazing young lady. Fell in love with her Brains and the way she articulates her self is insane.
She's so smart and gorgeous. That hair girl! Keep rocking it!❤
Very nuanced subject lendaba yenwele...would she had felt any different if her hair wasn't so good? Ask a woman who has iinqoba, veiws would be very different.
I doubt
Her hair is good because she takes care of it.
This woman, so graceful, so authentic. We are honestly in awe of your beauty and brains. To basadi and to being the change we want to see in the world. Beautiful to watch.
Thank you so much Penuel and team for highlighting such people. To a greater Africa and to proud black people 😍😍😍 Rea leboga
She's very informative 🎉
Weaves etc, instil self-hatred, and low self-esteem. How do you expect your daughter to feel confident, if she is not comfortable with the hair that grows out her skull.
More Feminine energy and authenticity is what's needed, power to this divine Goddess she innerstands her true essence.❤
Zulaikha Patel came to prominence for leading a silent march at Pretoria Girls High, at the age of 14, fighting for the recognition of African Hair and the discrimination against those with certain types of hairstyles.
She currently runs an NPC, founded in 2022, called Dare To Change - with the mission to eliminate the poverty of literacy, that children in South Africa face. Founded after the release of her debut best-selling book , “My Coily Crowny Hair”.
She engages in advisory work on youth development , the advancement of women and girls within various organisations and continues to advocate and speak publicly, both locally and internationally.
She is currently studying towards an LLB law degree via UNISA.
I enjoyed this!
This is my very first time watching your content, and I loved how vulnerable and open you both were with regards to your experiences with racial discrimination.
I hope to be a guest someday!
What a beautiful and refreshing 🎉😊interview. African hair is the most beautiful thing ever,look at Zulaikha?🎉🎉
African + Indian genes. Let's not forget that please
Yes, true that.
Regarding this hair thing, I had an issue at school cos I was told to cut off my dreadlocks and it was breaking cos our teachers were black. Even now most black schools don't want dreads, comb your hair and woman mele ba bambe amaphondo
we think apartheid is gone .....its just crazy how other people think is gone
Loved this chat. Love Zuleika. Wanted to name my daughter after her. Pen...please invite your MOM. I would love to hear her side of the story. Good Job, Pen!
Please please please have another sit-down with her Bafo.🙏🏾
Great Podcast. There is so much to learn from this.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your generosity 🙏🏽
"We can be each other's enemy of progress" and "Going in Circles" are what keeps Black people in particular at the same positions for prolonged periods on time. This applies across all parts of our lives as black people! i have a beautiful daughter who loves her hair because we love her hair as parents, i believe that will go a long way as she grows older and older. beautiful hair
Hair is also a concept of colonization! And as Africans I think we ready for that Conversation cz too many black woman has fallen into this trap because of what’s viewed as sexy and hot appearance with Weaves & frontals according to Social media,
Hair has often been used as a tool for colonization and oppression....with European standards of beauty being imposed on colonized peoples, including African communities. This imposition often resulted in the denigration of natural African hair textures and the promotion of Eurocentric beauty standards, leading many to feel compelled to alter their natural hair to conform to these standards.
Black men also need hair decolonization chiskop was never just convenient, was designed.
Definetly she has a black mother u can hear her confidence she knows herself shes not confused about her identity
I have to agree with you there. One significant aspect of black mothers raising their children is often instilling resilience, strength, and a sense of cultural pride. Black mothers frequently emphasize the importance of perseverance in the face of adversity, navigating systemic challenges, and celebrating their cultural heritage.
Great insights! Discrimination is deep-seated. Black people discriminate each other based on tribal lines, among others.
Beautiful interview!
All the colours
Live colourful ❤
This podcast was fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wow, such an informative informative from such a powerful Zilaika ❤❤
Brilliant
Wise
Intelligent
Brave
Powerful
She would lead this country one day . She has the stable stubborn righteous mind to say and do what’s right and not what’s popular. Let’s remember the name . Ten years later our president
This is so sad....that our entire identity is our hair?! Really??? Listening to this podcast made me realise how ignorant we tend to be as human beings. Zulaikha Patel is a stunning young woman, however she cannot relate to struggles Black women have with their natural hair (especially, 4C type). I felt as if they were speaking as if black women (particularly those who wear wigs/weaves) are blind or idiots who don't know their identity...but tying our entire identity with hair isn't ridiculous???! It's A PART of who we are , NOT EVERYTHING that we are. Have ever asked these women why they wear wigs?? The answer isn't always, "i want to look beautiful" or "i feel more attractive." . Most reasons are black natural hair takes A LOT to maintain. The hair products are expensive, there are certain electronics we must have to ensure the hair is getting all the care it needs (this is also expensive!). It's time consuming, from washing it to detangling it to combing it, etc etc. Our hair breaks when it's not in protective hairstyles (again depends on what you can afford or what your hair can take). I don't wear a wig or braids because ohhh, i don't know my identity or the colonizers say it's pretty ...NO! I am protecting my black natural hair, i am student-i have things to do my hair is frustrating sometimes, i cannot afford these natural based hair products. So, it's easier to wear wigs, or braid my hair. It's a preference, no white man told me to wear a wig. I wear out my hair when it's manageable (and unfortunately, this isn't all the time). If you want to wear out your natural hair, GO AHEAD, IT'S LOOKS GORGEOUS! However, don't come here in the comments attacking, judging, hating on black women who choose to wear wigs. You don't know the full story and how would you when you're a man with no afro😢and a half black woman with beautiful big hair that clearly isn't like most black women's hair...come on guys
great interview
Crazy I didn’t realize being black was so political and controversial.
😂😂for a second when the video stopped and I looked up at the screen trying to figure out if it's buffering or interrupted by a call I got shocked for a split second when reading it's loadshedding and I asked myself "loadshedding? On UA-cam?"😂😂naaa
😂😂😂
Miss SA.
bring more like this
Candace Owens in a making
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Candice believes black people in modern times can not experience racism, she doesn't think the whites were responsible for colonization(she believes they ended) it. Candace is so anti-black
Lol, Candace Owens... Nah, not really. If she spoke about something more important, I'd agree.
@Topicsdujour I know she is not the yet... but if she could get more wings she will get there... I speak life to her
The number of times I would’ve lost my chain of thought 😂😂😂😂
Big up to Ibrahim Traore telling schools that no child must be punished because of their bushy natural hair. I don't understand how the schools can find offense with something that you were born with and that God gave you. That will be a task to erase racism within the Indian community because they have a caste system. You could be born a full blooded Indian and you will still get discriminated against because you are of a lower caste. That is part of their culture. All the Abrahamic religions say something bad about Black people so religions are racist.
That's not true 😂😂😂
Finally have time to listen to this episode 🎉, pretty privilege bias on pro max, Ms Patel here could be talking about selling ice to Eskimos and I would still be all ears😅, #dopeconversationswithPenuel
Love Zulaikha (and I was so proud of her and her cause from the first time I heard about her story)but I found it pretentious to say “lace frontal, I think thats what it’s called” because I highly doubt that she didn’t know what it’s called considering that she speaks on this very topic so often😂. Saying that is just a way to “elevate herself” from women who wear weaves whom she clearly has decided have an identity problem. My main qualm is that black women are not allowed to decide what beauty is for themselves- what’s worse now this judgement is being passed by other black women. The narrative that women who wear weaves have an inherent hatred for themselves is bizarre and it comes from a very particular sector of “wokeness” that is out of touch with the real issues that ALL black women face on the daily regardless of what value you(as a black woman) place on your hair in relation to your identity. This debate is so silly and it also does more harm than good. Why must black women be pitted against each other in 2024 over hair nogal? Zulaikha can fight her fight WITHOUT denigrating other women who have different preferences. Such an intelligent and well spoken young woman, nonetheless. She’s going to do great things.
You get it!!!!😭 this was absolutely ridiculous. I appreciate Zulaikha but what she had to say here?! It was wrong.
I still have hope in our women
TRUE INDEPENDENCE COMES WITH STRUGGLE. NO POLITICIAN WANTS TO ADMIT THAT IT WILL HAVE TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.
Can't take this seriously. There are much more pressing matters to be protesting about than hair. Baby girl, you are beautiful and stunning. I have a daughter who is mixed, and her hair is different from mine because it's a mixture of her parents (black and white). If she went onto a podcast representing white or black people's hair, I'd be very confused because her hair texture is not at all the same. I digress, let's protest about human trafficking or how poverty is caused by absent fathers in homes or literally anything else of substance. This is ridiculous.
So, you didn't watch the video?
I love how she sees students of '76 couldn't achieve all hence naye today usisi she is represent the achievement of her generation. About CODESA and it's minutes let me just say this, it is not necessary to those who aspire to be leaders of today 1st thing they do when they get a platform to speak is attack the legacy of Mandela ukufunda Pretoria Girls yiwo ama minutes eCODESA my child. Sengvala, pls research Thuli Madonsela isbuko esihle for a girl child.
Penuel you behaving like a teenage boy in front of this lady 😂😂😂🥳😂😂😂
Beautiful conversation with the lady... BUT, i wish to see the day where people with influence do not shy away from answering the "WHO TO VOTE FOR" question, yet they do encourage Young people to go and Vote.. who do these Young people that have very limited Political knowledge vote for?
Imagine at your work they hear you want to vote EFF. Immediately they think shoot the Boer and how you associate yourself with that. Even if you tell them you don't like that part, they'll never understand
Why should they say, so they can be attacked? Hayi yeka abantwana babene peace of mind.
@Drawingboredi to the "why should they say", it's so that we (with limited political knowledge) can be influenced by the people we believe(through their interviews) hold the same values we hold.
Who would attack them if they were to say? @godpenuel always states why he would not vote for an ANC, an EFF or a DA, no one cancels him coz he backs it up..
She was born a leader 👏
this girl, she is a fighter...she knows very well...where she belong politically😊
No human race in this world suffer from racism than a Black race. A Black race is dehumanized more than any other race in this world, but the conscientization is slowly but surely bringing redress and ultimately the Black race shall attain its power.
True, I remember being on a plane from South Africa to Amsterdam, was seated next to this nice white lady, the flight attended did not bother giving me the meal, the lady pointed it out, I didn't want to make big scene about it because that's how they get you on no fly list
wow!
Great Konvo mate. Not The Pen cheesin at first😂
Nice one Pen! 👌
Share the names of the Muslim Platforms.
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I do agree with Zulaika women should be proud with they natural beauty and that include they hair, why hide your natural hair with fake and ugly weaves, I'm dating a black women and she also had this thing for weaves and but under that weave she had beautiful strong natural hair and i convince her to enjoy her natural beauty and boy is beautifull with out that weave mmmmmmm🤌
You can never solve racism amongst Muslims without Islam. Racism exists amongst some Muslims due to their ignorance of Islam. Muslims who have fully accepted Islam (Quran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad) as their way of life are the most beautiful human beings inside out. This is coming from a Xhosa Muslim.
Racism amongst Indians is due to legacy of the caste system. It has nothing to do with Islam. This is directed to all those who blame Islam for the actions of Muslims.
Xhosa Muslim, is a oxymoron. You can not be a Xhosa and Muslim.
1000 years in Islam of Muslims of Indian descent any yet they have not been able to excricate themselves from the influences of caste system?
@@liveinwisdom3610 I am. Being Muslim is a religious indentity, Xhosa is a ethnic identity. Both can co-exist at the same time. Just like you have a Yoruba person whose Muslim or an Indian Muslim. How is it an oxymoron? Please elaborate. So one is suppose to be Xhosa without a religion?
@@thamizama5904 Not all of them. I bear witness, I know a lot of Indian Muslims who don't view black people as inferior to them. Guess what? There are black people in Africa who have not left tribalism, even though Islam runs through their family tree for thousands of years. In Islam, tribalism and racism are both defined as jahiliyyah/ignorance.
@@AbduladheemDayimani You do realize that, majority of Xhosa customs (animal sacrifice, introducing new borns to the ancestors, introducing new wife to the ancestors, going to initiation school etc) I can go on and on, are against Abrahamic religions. The problem is you guys have been brainwashed, and are uneducated about religion and your culture.
Watched her do a podcast with The Ground Floor Podcast.... lets just say it was a very special chat...
Tittle should read : Changing my erases my originality, Ur not black they made up that degrading term black, you are the original the one that communicates with nature
According to her classmates she lied
@user-ve3ig8de8s About getting oppressed at school.
When are we moving past talking about skin colour? It's like we're conditioned to react emotionally to everything that we disagree on with other races🤒
Everything we do we refer in the past not when only talking about race. Why is not emotional when someone has to refer to house plan when they want to make renovations.
Conservatism has nothing to do with race.
It's got everything to do with race
*laughs in SDA*😆😆
@@mihlaliqoma9039 Really? only certain races practice Conservatism? and others dont?
@@mihlaliqoma9039no it doesn’t.
In general, most South Africans are conservative regardless of race. But the hair policies are racist. Weaves should be banned.
Please study the history of India, pre-colonial period they've always been rascist between themselves.. the untouchables etc goes way back in those regions.. as for Islam.. no comment, God is the only judge.. the only non rascists on earth are genetic Africans.. theres no debate, they have other prejudices but not rascism
Penuel ungayihlabi lengane
Bro this is child friendly podcast 🤦🏾♂️.... But I agree with you ngoba uyamithisi lomjita
Yo I feel old, she's a woman now mos lol ja neh time is beautiful. She's grown with her confidence and intelligence, great to see.
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Is this the racist girl from the podcast?