Someone on the mod team definitely knew what was going on, knowing that this mod gives you the first Divine Dish after defeating a boss called Garbage.
“This cult just paid me $500k to make a mod for them, and some of the members have done horrific acts against other people before.” “…but y’know what would be really funny-“
based. EE-YAH EE-YAH SHUBNIGGURATH BLACK GOAT TIDDIES OF THE WOODS BRING TO US SUBMISSIVE AND BREEDABLE NOOBS, SO WE MAY SLAY THEM YAH EE-YAH YAH EE-YAH YAH EE-YAHHH
While the mentioned game was made some developers (same ones as Hong Kong 97) to make fun of the cult, in the same magazine that game was published in, *actual games and apps made by the cult* were mentioned. You can read about it in the first volume of Game Urara (ゲームウララ) from 1995, pages 156-159 (NSFW warning, the same magazine had many other NSFW topics unrelated to Aum)
oh hey this modpack. i remember seeing it on curseforge one day and basically going "huh, weird premise but il try it". I got to one of the main towns, and just kinda went "this is too grindy, I'm going back to my usual modpacks." and uninstalled it.
As soon as you mentioned he considers himself the second coming, I thought "Oh god, the mod's a self-insert power fantasy." Then I saw the "hero" with the skin modeled after him and thought "YYYYYUP."
I had a grim thought at the end, before you made your point: Kids. They're trying to get kids into it, which could go to some dangerous and extremely illegal(I'm implying child sa, that's what I'm implying) at some point.
Is there evidence that the twin-flame idea applies to all ages as well? If yes, then the "pursue at all costs" mantra could lead to some really dark deeds.
@@PongoXBongo Given the discussed part where a 19 year old was practically forced into a relationship with someone in their 30's, I would not be surprised that age is not a concern to them - only that they did not have younger members till then due to the extreme costs
Duh, its on a kids game, abuse of any form creats fear, fear creates confusion, a confusion those kids will need to fix. Remember " man before child, and the pack will die"-in the bible, i forgot where
Don't trust any Twin Flames types y'all. My story is, I started dating a lady who was about this twin flames thing, she was immediately mentally and emotionally abusive. Every day was one threat or another. Would not let me sleep for days at a time. After 2 weeks I wised up and threw her out.
@@erubianwarlord8208 i think he might buy some of the bullshit he's selling, i mean he is in a relationship, could be that he's happy being a monogamous evil bastard, dont think anythings off the table for this guy
Twin Flame Ascension sounds like an ability that would wipe a universe to nothingness as well lmao, or a character's most powerful move. that name sounds so *BADASS.*
I grew up in a cult and escaped, it's insane and deeply sad that somebody would throw away their indipendence of thought and join one willingly. Folks are obviously lonely and lost, and consequently taken advantage of.
@@hotpocketsat2am no they virtue signal and enforce beliefs and if u dont agree u are called racist and sexist and they themselves are racist to white straight males
So this is how I find out I dodged a LOT of fucking bullets. I played the modpack once and was frustrated by the somewhat broken state of it. Cheating my way through most of the "levels". Ended up not even being able to finish it due to a bug that basically froze the final boss where I couldn't attack him and he couldn't attack me. So I gave up. Given how there was no news on any new chapters and the array of bugs, I assumed it was abandoned and I never joined the discord. I'm...immensely glad I didn't.
Good for you that you didn't. I feel bad for the people who fell for it and could end up in the future as SA victims because of that vile cult. You dodged a lot of bullets. Don't worry, the dude behind this will eventually be taught a lesson.
I joined the discord, but I never went on it. I played the mod required to add the entities to the game, but I stopped playing after I couldn’t figure out how to get the necessary map. Also, I thought the hp on the mobs was a little too much, and decided it wasn’t for me
23:29 i don’t wanna um akshually too hard here, but the sarin gas attack cult rpg was not made but the cult itself! It was made as kind of a shitpost game by the same creator as hong kong 97.
I hate the trope of soul mates and I'm glad it's not a real thing, because if everyone has a soul mate then bad, abusive people do too. By soul mate logic the people stuck in horrible relationships should not be helped, because that's their fate. Thanks to Jeff Divine for so comprehensively illustrating my point. Also a go to hell to Jeff Divine for so comprehensively illustrating my point.
i enjoy the idea in a conceptual manner but not in a world-building manner unless its handled completely seriously and it gets turned into some sorta thriller thing that actually handles how scary itd be to be tied to someone like that. But otherwise its such a bizarre trope that started getting taken wayyyyy too seriously. I personally enjoy the red string of fate stuff from a lotta Japanese media far more, because its not locked into ONLY being something inherently positive, but rather is purely about how people (or characters, since its usually in media) become inherently intertwined in some manner when theyre close to eachother, or even directly influence one another. Theres some official Evangelion art of Shinji and Kowaru sharing Shinji’s earbuds which are colored red to be a nod to that idea, and with them it absolutely makes sense. Quite a few fanartists also draw it with Shadow and Maria from the Sonic franchise, as they are so inherently tied to one another in a more literal manner, Shadow existing quite literally because of her. In that sense, its a fascinating idea to me.
@@njdotson Soul mates can't be one sided by definition, but it's possible that one side realizes that they are destined to each other sooner, while the other needs some convincing and wooing. It's a common romance genre convention. Either way, I think you are missing the true horror of the soul mates concept, that you can love your abuser. If soul mates were a real thing that would imply eternal love. Even worse if you objectively know that the other person is bad for you but you just can't quit them. The whole trope is underutilized fertile ground for psychological/existential horror.
I think abusive people can have a soul mate too. I know such a case, an awful dude which wasn't great towards his girls, until he met one that was worse than him and started manipulating his volatile temper to lash out against others. They both are in jail.
"By soul mate logic the people stuck in horrible relationships should not be helped, because that's their fate." - That's a very narrow way of looking at it. *Having* a soulmate doesn't mean that the person you're with *is* your soulmate. If soulmates are real, then the person in an abusive relationship could have met the wrong person before they had a chance to meet their soulmate. That said, I agree with the analysis that it's not a real thing, just you're looking at the 'if it is real' from a skewed perspective.
I feel like the simplest answer here is true; he doesn’t want to look like he is recruiting kids. If he hides the connection or doesnt make it too too obvious then he can deny anything nefarious. Also probably doesn’t want a bunch of actual children begging him to get them married yknow.
It is a common thing to happen in games, movies, and tv shows where the majority of their communities are composed of minors and children and there is an interaction between them and the creepy adult fans of those medias. Roblox has pedos and weirdos just like Minecraft has, the same thing goes with Genshin Impact, Fnaf, Undertale/Deltarune and so on.
Nah i havent watched the video yet, but I clicked on this because I'm a heavy enjoyer of the Mod and found out it was ran by a cult a few months ago when someone randomly replied to my reddit post saying the mod was ran by a cult, I Clicked on this cuz I remembered his face. I say that to say this, The discord and mod community is actually really separate from the cult stuff. Infact if you into the server and look up their keywords like twin flames you don't see much of it, like for sure they are pretty weird and it can be used to lure in kids. But from what I've seen the cult stuff and their Minecraft stuff is fairly separate and def not something their using for recruiting or anything like that. But I say this as someone who's just an enjoyer of the mod.
@@gelatogremlin bro asked about its connection to twin flames on the discord and got banned immediately. It's not separate, the connection is being deliberately buried
As a trans person, the bit about forcing cis people to transition against their identity is just utterly horrific. It's basically shoving them, unwilling, into the awful dysphoria and depression that we ordinarily transition to claw our way out of. And for what?! It's so callous....
Well,thats is how most cults are. They dont care about YOUR identity. They want you to succumb into their shitty,mostly money-grabbing scheme and suck all of your money and will to life away just for their own gain.
This is why any claims that trans people force other people to be trans are dubious, because the same science that supports trans people also proves that cis people can't be forced into another gender. Thinking you can make anyone transition goes against transgender theory.
Honest to god, the implications of it are kind of terrifying. The fact that none of the documentaries even bother covering this when it is literally a method of them indoctrinating children is honestly infuriating.
I find Jeff explaining himself being Christ really funny. I hate to break it to him, but the European depiction of Yeshua of Nazareth, a middle eastern Jewish man, does not look like a Caucasian American dude from the East Coast.
Don't wanna be that guy but that implies the girl would be an asshole, not Jeff himself. But I get what you're saying, saying Jeff is an asshole would be a compliment.
This cult really rubs me the wrong way. I mean, most do, but this one? The first step is literally blaming yourself for everything wrong. Self victim-blaming. A thing many people with trauma already do. I'm all for taking responsibility for one's actions, and indeed there are too many people out there who have never been held accountable for the things they've done. But this is WAY too far in the other direction. By all means, face the consequences of your own actions, but sometimes things really aren't your fault. A natural disaster destroying your home, a rotten a*****e partner deciding you're the cause of all their problems, an unreasonable boss who sits you with an impossible task out of pettiness, a bureaucrat being a bureaucrat...
This reminds me of zionist. where they would always hammer the point that "whatever happened to you (good/bad) is god's plan and if its bad then god is punishing you" And not to count about how doing anything to turn your life is futile and you need to give it up to god, bcuz humans are flawed yadayada bs. AND also also, they insist that you spread their words and to indoctrinate other people even if they said otherwise (if they say no, keep pushing). Thankfully im out of that crap now
That particular section genuinely, honest to God made me sick to my stomach. The fact that only a couple months ago I was (and still am) trying to work through the grief and guilt of leaving behind a toxic friend made it hit especially close to home, and even more terrifyingly, I am totally able to understand why people would fall for this bullshit. People say it's easy to act like everything is everyone else's fault. But *no one* says anything about how easy it also is to say everything is your own fault in life, regardless of if you even had a choice in the first place. You can try to change, you can actively be working to be better, but the feeling never truly stops haunting you. It's always the "why did they make me do this?" and not the "why couldn't I stop this?" that gets the attention of people, and it breaks my heart, because crushing yourself under the weight of sins that aren't even your own just because you weren't an absolutely spotless person is just as harmful to yourself as it is to other to be pointing the finger at innocents.
That part would immediately turn me away. I recently became aware of how I blamed everything on myself and JUST finally crawled my way out of that habit. I'm now very aware when I notice that way of thinking. I'd nope tf right out of there insta once I saw that lol
The forced transitioning stuff is so fucked. When i was first coming out and trying to explore my gender, someone i knew tried to convince me i was trans fem and needed to transition fully. Its hard to explain how it feels, its almost worse than disphoria because of how suffocating it is. I cut him out a while back, and now I'm just competing with regular transphobia instead.
i'd say it's definitely more cruel to force someone into transitioning than to stop them from doing so. not saying that the latter isn't bad though. people should figure out for themselves what they are, not have someone tell them.
@@insertherealotofeyeemojis2185 guessing nonbinary, since a lotta us deal with people tryna say we’re “just in the process of becoming ‘fully trans’” (i hated typing that lmfao) and try to make us think we HAVE to fully transition or else we’re not actually ‘trans enough’. its really fuckin stupid
I just started this, but only a few minutes in, holy hell. The mirror exercise is a dangerous precedent. The, "everything that happens to you is your fault" is very easy to lean into, "your trauma is your fault." Thoughts like that tend to already circle traumatized people's heads. The cult instilling that as "fact" must destroy people like that.
It is a pretty good way of pick and mixing people, picking the most tormented, traumatised people and making them weaker by destroying their sense of self and keeping people who do not agree with their ideas out of the mix. They do set a bad example of themselves to people who are totally fine, which obviously can lead to this vile cult being destroyed inside or out. Ever notice how religions offer gifts and peace? Cults do exactly the opposite of that, because religions, actual true religions like Christianity, Judaism and others promise something good at the end of all this, cults set out to destroy every pillar of what makes a person a person, effectively making them give into the cult out of desperation but there are flaws with cults because once people realise that they are their own self outside the chosen cult(s), it falls apart. Basically cults present themselves as spiritual or receiving holy grace on the outside but its pure hell in the inside. Thanks for listening to my ted talk (given I went a little out of line.)
As a trans man, what ann went through with the cult is completely horrific. Experiencing gender dysphoria is something I wouldn’t wish on anyone, And forcing someone into transition against their will is somehow worse, especially threatening it with her job on the line. Hearing about that happening to her and so many others made my stomach drop.
I doubt they've actually spent 500K for a mod like this. It's a basic mod with some questing and storylines. People make this stuff for free all the time. He's probably paid hundreds at most, and probably in a simple one-time payment. The 500K label is just to boost the hype for the mod.
As a trans man, I am EXTREMELY sad for those who were coaxed into transition. If you are trans.. you are trans. You work differently psychologically than those who are NOT trans. I can't even believe the psychological torment of transitioning as a cisgender person. No. That is horrifying to me. The trauma they will experience is unfathomable. Even just names and pronouns. They are definitely damaged psychologically. That's just disgusting. That thing should be in prison.
literally... i was mortified when i first heard it. after living the majority of their lives comfortable with their gender, having that dysphoria suddenly forced upon them? absolutely horrifying. i hope everyone he manipulated is able to find comfort with themselves again
srsly! someone forced to live that way is probably going to deal with the same body dysmorphia, thoughts & bull that someone trans could have pre transition. bc at the end of the day no one should be forced into living a lie :(
i mean, i'd imagine that a cisgender person would not care as much? transgender individuals like us can care because we were primed *to* care. gender was made *into* a sore subject for us, and our way of coping with that sore subject was to live aligned with a different gender than was assigned to us. the cis dont change their gender because they dont have to cope with a sore subject. people who, say, are secure in their sexuality may not care at all if someone calls them gay, for example. because they know who they are. a genderqueer person being forced into a gender role they are uncomfortable with are being forced to reckon with a sore subject, a straight person would likely just be annoyed and shrug it off because of a lack of personal investment in the topic.
the flow and pacing of this video, switching back and forth between the mod and the TFU story, was really well executed and is why i finished the video
Alittle funny how I’ve been on a channel binge for a couple hours after discovering it today…you post a video…and it SO happens to be about Minecraft mods as a developer I never even heard of this mod, and you are totally right about them not making 500k back if anything at most they probably made 20-80k at MOST
Twin Flame Universe, TFU for short... hmm... idk how popular this is elsewhere, but in my region "tfu" is used as a written expression of the spitting action. I think that's very fitting.
8:50 Me: I bet it's to make people feel even more insecure and/or unhealthy so they'll rely on the cult more, right? Farrell: Jeff prefers larger women. Me: Oh... Edit: Oh, I was also right!
Both things apply. And just to make it abundantly clear, actual weight-gain enthusiasts, the ones that aren’t abusive make a big deal about consent as it applies to food. Pound for pound (no pun intended), niche interest communities somehow do consent better than people who aren’t involved at all
@lancesmith8298 most fettishes with organized communities are very strict on consent (particularly informed consent) and etiquette within their circles because they are aware of how much someone can f you up legally (not romantically) if you engage in that kind of preference/play without those protections in place.
Reminds me of the David Reimer case. Literally every trans person I know thinks that it was a huge tragedy and that John Money was a transphobic pedo creep, but that doesn’t stop conservatives from using it to smear all trans people
@@DiamondWorldUA-camthe case in this video quite literally proves you can't just force someone to be trans... Literally even a highly influenced long term cult member didn't just become trans because they were told to. That was the whole situation... Do better. Learn more. Have some actual understanding for people and kids who are struggling with a medically recognised diagnosis, it's not just thoughts in your head, it is literally a globally understood and medically backed condition even countries where it is illegal act, it is still recognised as a genuine medical reality And just for a second consider all the adults who have had to go through their own childhood being told "you aren't gay or trans because you are a child" when it turns out they quite literally were gay or trans as it's proven time and time again it's not a thing you can just force on someone and that goes both ways, it's something you either are or aren't.
250 hours in Minecraft is baby numbers. Also, Jeff has got to be one of the weirdest cult leaders I’ve ever heard about (aside from that one guy who led a cult centered on the belief that he could fly) - and I’m a Wendigoon viewer. With every new thing I learn about him, I have another what the fuck moment.
@@kyrazz128 The Aum Shinrikyo. I don't remember too many asian words but I remember that group, seared into my brain, they wanted to destroy all life on earth, real life doomsday cult.
It's crazy how something like this is still standing and doing so well today, even though it is so blatantly nefarious. Branching into the game industry is definitely a way to either make more money or attract more cult members(especially children for whatever twisted plan they have for them). They really need to be stopped, ASAP!!!
jeff: (marley's) situation is yikes, i would be fucked. but shes perfectly happy! marley: regularly sobbing in meetings without reason anyway wow, pyramid scheme cult is not what i expected. "divine gaming" is incredibly bizarre too. it's name sounds so satirical lol, but the mod indepth enough to be real
@@bbyrdie being expected to move out is one thing.. allowing your teenage daughter to live with a schizophrenic criminal states away is an entirely different thing.
@@ayana9490 no I definitely agree with you, I just mean that they really didn’t have control over her if she had already turned 18 and left. If her parents were involved then they 100% had the responsibility to protect her. Unfortunately even if they thought she was in danger, it’s not like they could go take her back home against her will. And I kinda misspoke earlier, I think that good parents wouldn’t leave their child with no other options than moving in with an abusive partner. I didn’t mean for it to sound like it was ok because she was supposed to leave home- I only meant that lots of 18yo are supposed to leave and support themselves the best they can, so they couldn’t really stop her from doing what she wanted if she left like society expects.
I just went out of my way to report this mod's association with cult activity to the Curseforge admins using the Report feature. I advise you all to do the same, because this association breaks CurseForge's Community Guidelines and Terms Of Use.
I would really like to report it, but I cannot find the specific paragraph of the Community Guidelines and Terms of Use that states that, could you please tell me the exact paragraph?
Hey Farrell, thank you for being so respectful about trans people while simultaneously shutting down this cult’s despicable way of thinking about gender. It would have been easy to shun trans people but you took care of it swiftly and kindly-you’re right, a person’s gender and identity is their own to explore and declare, not something that can be forced upon them. Really lovely to hear your thoughts! :)
Man, why are fictional cult leaders so much cooler than real ones? Fictional cult leaders: "With this 111th new moon virgin sacrifice, product of so many years of hard work, ur'Gonakkhrai will grant me the power to become supreme over humanity! I will become his avatar and usher in the end of days!" Real cult leaders: "Uh, so, if you give me enough money, uh... Something cool might happen I guess? Like all your fantasies coming true? Also you need to do exactly what I say until you think exactly like me. Now go make me money, I have to decide whether to claim I'm Jesus, Buddha, or both."
Because real cult leaders do not have the powers they claim to have, while fictional ones either do or have access to said powers from an external source.
I really wanted to watch this video til the end, but the forced transitioning stuff was just too much. Gender dysphoria is not something I'd wish upon anyone. I'm trans, and I was forced into taking hormones that match the gender I was assigned at birth because it was supposed to "cure" my transness. It was horrible. I can't imagine how awful it must be for a cis person.
@@anonanonymous9670 Shut up you whiny brat. "WAGH WAGH, HOW DARE YOU NOT REACT WELL TO BEING REMINDED OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL TRAUMA!" You are not right in the head.
This isn't going to turn into a pipeline to recruit, it already is if the discord is active with two thousand people. They're probably already using it to recruit by seeming like a "wholesome and welcoming" community to get people to let their guards down, and with so many younger folks without much life experience it'll be easy pickings unfortunately.
If I was taking some "class" and had the instructor talk to me like that I imagine we would have one short arguement and I would be done with that nonsense. What a piece of work this guy is, "Divine", the only thing divine about him is the level of humor, dark humor about how much of a joke someone like him is. Its a shame vulnerable people get roped in by these freaks.
the pacing of this was really good. i loved the shift from seeing your face, seeing gameplay, and seeing various relevant images and videos. kept me engaged. also, i like how you kept coming back and forth from the mod and the information about the cult. very engaging, great writing! thank you
This guy needs to fix his sound settings. No matter how low I turn my volume down, it feels like my eardrums are being blasted. No other video does this, just this guy's.
23:39 While the mentioned game was made some developers (same ones as Hong Kong 97) to make fun of the cult, in the same magazine that game was published in, actual games and apps made by the cult were mentioned. You can read about it in the first volume of Game Urara (ゲームウララ) from 1995, pages 156-159 (NSFW warning, the same magazine had many other NSFW topics unrelated to Aum) This is an entire giant rabbit hole itself (both the cult, their media and even the unrelated magazine) that could have mutiple hours of analysis videos.
Fattening members with divine meals while intentionally keeping their self-esteem low so they feel like nobody but other members of the cult could possibly love them is just a variation of a common tactic used by cults and predators. The difference is that the usual tactic starts with targeting somebody who already has low self-esteem and an undesirable trait to make them feel unlovable.
Completely off topic from the vid, but where did you get the info for the money spent to make mods at 23:52? I'm genuinely curious because I'm someone whos made machinima for GTA V for years now and who relies on various mods to create machinima, I've never heard of "GTA V Los Santos 2023" and absolutely nothing comes up when I search it. It's like it doesn't exist.
The f'ed up part about their grift is that they completely changed the meaning if the term "twin flame". In awakening/ new age circles, twin flames were not supposed to just be your soul mate. They were someone you were karmically tied to and fated to get entangled with, but that isnt a good thing. You aren't even necessarily supposed to have a relationship. It's often draining and bad and a hindrance to your actual spiritual work. Not sure TFU is responsible for being the first to change that interpretation, but they definitely ran with the misunderstanding
I'm glad someone said this, I was thinking the same thing! It will definitely have a permanent impact on the use of the term in spiritual spaces, I think
@@Blaez_Dev more specifically: did this couple just hire people on fiver and pocket most of the cash? Did they reuse assets from other people? Did they contribute themselves or just manage the team? etc.
@GYOJIBOT abit of everything. Fiver, discord communities and such, they hired from where ever was possible. They did not reuse assets, and they contributed themselves aswell as managed the teams efforts. ( honestly we were compensated more then fairly for our time and they did keep separation from the team and tfu however I left before it became a aelf insert power fantasy)
i have a guide on how to find your twin flame: 1st step: do not objectify people, love them for who they are 2nd step: interact with lots of people and find someone who matches u a lot and is also as loving as you became 3rd step: well just treat them good because they probably love u unconditionally and i bet u do too so just care abt eachother and have a wholesome life together theres rlly no secret recipe.. u just need to be able to truly love someone and find who is similar enough to spend time together and also is able to truly love others. i had lots of friends and relationships before finding mah boi, i found him in a small retro tech youtube channel and we are together for years now.. we just met in a place with a common interest and just care infinitely for eachother.... so just do what u like and u eventually find someone.. might take a long time but u will
very interesting and well-made video. your music is also wonderful! it's always nice to come across new caretaker-inspired music with a high bar of quality.
I'm glad that you began the transitioning part with acknowledging that people who do so are usually happy and must be respected. Coercion into transitioning is extremely rare, usually found in these circumstances (which are also rare), and it's never about being transgender - it's about control. I'm willing to bet he would encourage a trans woman to detransition if she happened to join too...
hey man i'm late but wonderful job handling the topic of transition carefully. it's good that you clarified that someone's transition should be their own choice, in cases like this and also in cases of actual trans people. you're clearly an intelligent person and actually look into things before making crazy judgements.
Is there a download link for this world, I’m genuinely curious to see what this is. Obviously I have zero interest in joining the cult I just want to see what this cult created out of a sort of morbid curiosity. Edit: Nevermind, it just takes a bit of digging to find the mod, will be checking it out later tonight.
You did an awesome job on this video. Hopefully it will reach people who were interested in playing Nightmare Craft and stop them from joining the Discord. I'd bet money that TFU intends to use it for recruitment purposes.
Aside from the obvious new target group of young and easily influenced teenagers in the Minecraft community, is there also a possibility, there might be some malicious code in the mod? Or maybe something planned for the future?
I don’t know, but the discord server for the mod didn’t mention anything about the cult, though I didn’t look too much into it myself and only talked in it to see if it was a mod i could play by myself in addition to other mods This is genuinely horrid though, glad I heard about this before I interacted there any further
You lured us with Minecraft then hit us with a documentary about a cult that occasionally mentions Minecraft. I’m not even mad, this video is awesome.
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!!
Yeah I thought it was full Minecraft mod gameplay content
LOL same. came here for minecraft stayed for the cult
i almost cant believe that this guy litteraly called himself god,like to get so wrapped up in his own fantasies is disturbing
thanks for the warning. Can skip that shitty clickbait then
Someone on the mod team definitely knew what was going on, knowing that this mod gives you the first Divine Dish after defeating a boss called Garbage.
Duh
lol
Just a big ole **** you to the cultists lol
“This cult just paid me $500k to make a mod for them, and some of the members have done horrific acts against other people before.”
“…but y’know what would be really funny-“
I assumed it was symbolism of life's "garbage" preventing you from progressing spiritually.
Nightmare Craft is like a standard jrpg where the church is the evil one but you're playing as a part of the church
I love playing as a villain
How is a church evil?
Or do you mean this cult's church? Idk
based.
EE-YAH EE-YAH SHUBNIGGURATH BLACK GOAT TIDDIES OF THE WOODS
BRING TO US SUBMISSIVE AND BREEDABLE NOOBS, SO WE MAY SLAY THEM
YAH EE-YAH YAH EE-YAH YAH EE-YAHHH
@@sekarmaltum1695 Shubniggurath? 🤨
I kinda want to play it just for that reason tbh
23:39 Aum Shinriko never developed mentioned game. It was a parody satirizing the cult. They did make a bunch of anime to try to recruit people though
Thank you! I was about to post the same thing.
apperantly a few japan-based cults have produced anime, that mother's basement guy did a whole series on anime by the Happy Science cult
While the mentioned game was made some developers (same ones as Hong Kong 97) to make fun of the cult, in the same magazine that game was published in, *actual games and apps made by the cult* were mentioned. You can read about it in the first volume of Game Urara (ゲームウララ) from 1995, pages 156-159 (NSFW warning, the same magazine had many other NSFW topics unrelated to Aum)
@@Wanja01YT oh fascinating! I just knew they didn't make the game mentioned in the video! Interesting!!
@@Wanja01YTthe fucking Hong Kong 97 creators!?!
oh hey this modpack. i remember seeing it on curseforge one day and basically going "huh, weird premise but il try it". I got to one of the main towns, and just kinda went "this is too grindy, I'm going back to my usual modpacks." and uninstalled it.
omg same, i thought it was an adventure pack but saw i had to grind a bunch and gave up
you dont actually have to grind much anymore they have a fairy quest which gives basically everything
Same, when he said Nightmare craft i lost it
As soon as you mentioned he considers himself the second coming, I thought "Oh god, the mod's a self-insert power fantasy." Then I saw the "hero" with the skin modeled after him and thought "YYYYYUP."
I had a grim thought at the end, before you made your point: Kids. They're trying to get kids into it, which could go to some dangerous and extremely illegal(I'm implying child sa, that's what I'm implying) at some point.
Chitlins.
Is there evidence that the twin-flame idea applies to all ages as well? If yes, then the "pursue at all costs" mantra could lead to some really dark deeds.
@@PongoXBongo Given the discussed part where a 19 year old was practically forced into a relationship with someone in their 30's, I would not be surprised that age is not a concern to them - only that they did not have younger members till then due to the extreme costs
Don’t worry, the liberals have that covered
Duh, its on a kids game, abuse of any form creats fear, fear creates confusion, a confusion those kids will need to fix. Remember " man before child, and the pack will die"-in the bible, i forgot where
Don't trust any Twin Flames types y'all.
My story is, I started dating a lady who was about this twin flames thing, she was immediately mentally and emotionally abusive. Every day was one threat or another. Would not let me sleep for days at a time.
After 2 weeks I wised up and threw her out.
Good choice
good job dude, you made the right choice :)
Assuming you got a restraining order cuz from this video and the cult's rap you woulda needed one
I would assume people who are drawn in this cult must have some mental disorders. It's weird, to say the least.
It wasn't the belief, it was the person
I'm not going to lie, when the gender imbalance was mentioned I was expecting polygamous exploitation, not compelling people to transition.
Same here. Polygamy/harems are pretty standard fair for many cults. This is a new one.
i think that that was off the table considering his hook method
@@erubianwarlord8208 i think he might buy some of the bullshit he's selling, i mean he is in a relationship, could be that he's happy being a monogamous evil bastard, dont think anythings off the table for this guy
Poly people when one of the males has a baby 🔪
As times progress forward, we'll probably see more of those.
"Twin Flame Ascension" unironically sounds more like a Covenant you join in Dark Souls than a real religion
Their coupling of random people together sounds about as romantic as a classic Dark Souls marriage, if you know what I mean.
@@guysome3263 *flashbacks of Anri*
Twin Flame Ascension sounds like an ability that would wipe a universe to nothingness as well lmao, or a character's most powerful move. that name sounds so *BADASS.*
Just sounds like people who r big fans of midrift
that's because it's not a real religion tbh, it's just a big creepy hoax
“There’s only one choice,” right off the bat this sounds like a minecraft horror story.
Kiryu is the only man in a white suit I need
John Yakuza?
@@50millionbees And his never ending war on bones
@@50millionbees John Yakuza? Never heard him... There's only one amazing John in this multiverse, and he's name, is John Faith.
KIRYU-CHAN!!! - Majima-kun
i also dont trust white men in suits
I grew up in a cult and escaped, it's insane and deeply sad that somebody would throw away their indipendence of thought and join one willingly. Folks are obviously lonely and lost, and consequently taken advantage of.
we already have woke cults rn and they are trying to use media and games to recruit btw
@@itsterres imagine using someone’s personal and vulnerable experiences as an excuse to complain about gay people existing
@@hotpocketsat2am no they virtue signal and enforce beliefs and if u dont agree u are called racist and sexist and they themselves are racist to white straight males
@@hotpocketsat2am look at SBI they do this shit all time and destroy games
@@hotpocketsat2amphobes think about gay men more than gay men
So this is how I find out I dodged a LOT of fucking bullets.
I played the modpack once and was frustrated by the somewhat broken state of it. Cheating my way through most of the "levels". Ended up not even being able to finish it due to a bug that basically froze the final boss where I couldn't attack him and he couldn't attack me. So I gave up. Given how there was no news on any new chapters and the array of bugs, I assumed it was abandoned and I never joined the discord. I'm...immensely glad I didn't.
Good for you that you didn't. I feel bad for the people who fell for it and could end up in the future as SA victims because of that vile cult. You dodged a lot of bullets. Don't worry, the dude behind this will eventually be taught a lesson.
I joined the discord, but I never went on it. I played the mod required to add the entities to the game, but I stopped playing after I couldn’t figure out how to get the necessary map. Also, I thought the hp on the mobs was a little too much, and decided it wasn’t for me
Maybe we should report the mod on Curseforge... It really shouldn't be there.
Their solution to "straight relationships only" is unusually cruel, considering most other evil cults just go for polygamy
They’re both bad. One is forcing a relationship that is deemed “ok” in the eyes of a cult religion.
And the other encourage degeneracy.
23:29 i don’t wanna um akshually too hard here, but the sarin gas attack cult rpg was not made but the cult itself! It was made as kind of a shitpost game by the same creator as hong kong 97.
uh... thanks lad, i didn't know it was made by the same person who included an f bomb in a famicom game (unnoficial of course)
@@americaonline3835 an f-bomb is nothing compared to the actual dead body featured in the game's Game Over screen
@@zakkuth7447 ohh true
still unnoficial though but should still count
Hong Kong 97 was also a shitpost. It was made out of spite after their "real game" got dropped by nintendo for being "too political"
I hate the trope of soul mates and I'm glad it's not a real thing, because if everyone has a soul mate then bad, abusive people do too. By soul mate logic the people stuck in horrible relationships should not be helped, because that's their fate. Thanks to Jeff Divine for so comprehensively illustrating my point. Also a go to hell to Jeff Divine for so comprehensively illustrating my point.
i enjoy the idea in a conceptual manner but not in a world-building manner unless its handled completely seriously and it gets turned into some sorta thriller thing that actually handles how scary itd be to be tied to someone like that. But otherwise its such a bizarre trope that started getting taken wayyyyy too seriously. I personally enjoy the red string of fate stuff from a lotta Japanese media far more, because its not locked into ONLY being something inherently positive, but rather is purely about how people (or characters, since its usually in media) become inherently intertwined in some manner when theyre close to eachother, or even directly influence one another. Theres some official Evangelion art of Shinji and Kowaru sharing Shinji’s earbuds which are colored red to be a nod to that idea, and with them it absolutely makes sense. Quite a few fanartists also draw it with Shadow and Maria from the Sonic franchise, as they are so inherently tied to one another in a more literal manner, Shadow existing quite literally because of her. In that sense, its a fascinating idea to me.
I'd say it's not a soul mate if it's only one-sided
@@njdotson Soul mates can't be one sided by definition, but it's possible that one side realizes that they are destined to each other sooner, while the other needs some convincing and wooing. It's a common romance genre convention.
Either way, I think you are missing the true horror of the soul mates concept, that you can love your abuser. If soul mates were a real thing that would imply eternal love. Even worse if you objectively know that the other person is bad for you but you just can't quit them. The whole trope is underutilized fertile ground for psychological/existential horror.
I think abusive people can have a soul mate too. I know such a case, an awful dude which wasn't great towards his girls, until he met one that was worse than him and started manipulating his volatile temper to lash out against others. They both are in jail.
"By soul mate logic the people stuck in horrible relationships should not be helped, because that's their fate." - That's a very narrow way of looking at it. *Having* a soulmate doesn't mean that the person you're with *is* your soulmate. If soulmates are real, then the person in an abusive relationship could have met the wrong person before they had a chance to meet their soulmate. That said, I agree with the analysis that it's not a real thing, just you're looking at the 'if it is real' from a skewed perspective.
1:55 Hmm, I don't remember ever signing a restraining order... And yet it clearly says I did it...
why do people believe this is Ryan gosling, this guy is a random person with 21 subs
@@valentinhalau3396 The joke is that "he's just like me fr"
@@NewWarhammerNerd8881 i drive (off a bridge)
@@valentinhalau3396 He can't be Ryan Gosling because Ryan Gosling is literally me
I drive.
I feel like the simplest answer here is true; he doesn’t want to look like he is recruiting kids. If he hides the connection or doesnt make it too too obvious then he can deny anything nefarious. Also probably doesn’t want a bunch of actual children begging him to get them married yknow.
When we go back to Minecraft gameplay I get insane whiplash
If i had to guess, this whole "minecraft mod" stuff is just "grooming with extra steps"
not the first time someone has used minecraft as a tool for grooming
It is a common thing to happen in games, movies, and tv shows where the majority of their communities are composed of minors and children and there is an interaction between them and the creepy adult fans of those medias. Roblox has pedos and weirdos just like Minecraft has, the same thing goes with Genshin Impact, Fnaf, Undertale/Deltarune and so on.
That implies grooming is simple?
That's like saying "cooking with extra steps". The amount of steps are analogous to the dish being made.
Nah i havent watched the video yet, but I clicked on this because I'm a heavy enjoyer of the Mod and found out it was ran by a cult a few months ago when someone randomly replied to my reddit post saying the mod was ran by a cult, I Clicked on this cuz I remembered his face. I say that to say this, The discord and mod community is actually really separate from the cult stuff. Infact if you into the server and look up their keywords like twin flames you don't see much of it, like for sure they are pretty weird and it can be used to lure in kids. But from what I've seen the cult stuff and their Minecraft stuff is fairly separate and def not something their using for recruiting or anything like that. But I say this as someone who's just an enjoyer of the mod.
@@gelatogremlin bro asked about its connection to twin flames on the discord and got banned immediately. It's not separate, the connection is being deliberately buried
For f’s sake, I have just finished “Escaping Twin Flames” on Netflix today and this just pops up on my UA-cam recommendations😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
they are out to get ya
No escape for you
Twin Nettubes ,twin Flameyouflix
You cannot escape the Flame!
You can’t Escape The Twin Flames, bro.
Having known people like this monster, I can say that this turns my stomach. These people are incredibly manipulative and should be locked away.
This mod is definitely a cult recruitment tactic, all other "divine gaming" projects will likely also be.
Marley's situation sounds like an actual nightmare
As a trans person, the bit about forcing cis people to transition against their identity is just utterly horrific. It's basically shoving them, unwilling, into the awful dysphoria and depression that we ordinarily transition to claw our way out of. And for what?! It's so callous....
Well,thats is how most cults are.
They dont care about YOUR identity.
They want you to succumb into their shitty,mostly money-grabbing scheme and suck all of your money and will to life away just for their own gain.
I don't wish this kind of hell on any of my enemies, I'll be real with you. Horrific.
I hope one day your tumultuous waters rest still in peaceful balance.
This is why any claims that trans people force other people to be trans are dubious, because the same science that supports trans people also proves that cis people can't be forced into another gender.
Thinking you can make anyone transition goes against transgender theory.
You think that transition is the best way out, so you are part of the problem.
Honest to god, the implications of it are kind of terrifying. The fact that none of the documentaries even bother covering this when it is literally a method of them indoctrinating children is honestly infuriating.
There are many things the documentary’s failed to mention! The MAP (mind alignment process) seriously needs attention!
I find Jeff explaining himself being Christ really funny. I hate to break it to him, but the European depiction of Yeshua of Nazareth, a middle eastern Jewish man, does not look like a Caucasian American dude from the East Coast.
Well technically everyone is Christ in Christianity
Jesus is just Jesus Christ is just the holiness so everyone has Christ in them
"sorry that's my liar detector" Huh, sounds more like an asshole detector to me.
Don't wanna be that guy but that implies the girl would be an asshole, not Jeff himself. But I get what you're saying, saying Jeff is an asshole would be a compliment.
This cult really rubs me the wrong way. I mean, most do, but this one? The first step is literally blaming yourself for everything wrong. Self victim-blaming. A thing many people with trauma already do.
I'm all for taking responsibility for one's actions, and indeed there are too many people out there who have never been held accountable for the things they've done. But this is WAY too far in the other direction. By all means, face the consequences of your own actions, but sometimes things really aren't your fault. A natural disaster destroying your home, a rotten a*****e partner deciding you're the cause of all their problems, an unreasonable boss who sits you with an impossible task out of pettiness, a bureaucrat being a bureaucrat...
This reminds me of zionist. where they would always hammer the point that "whatever happened to you (good/bad) is god's plan and if its bad then god is punishing you"
And not to count about how doing anything to turn your life is futile and you need to give it up to god, bcuz humans are flawed yadayada bs.
AND also also, they insist that you spread their words and to indoctrinate other people even if they said otherwise (if they say no, keep pushing).
Thankfully im out of that crap now
That particular section genuinely, honest to God made me sick to my stomach.
The fact that only a couple months ago I was (and still am) trying to work through the grief and guilt of leaving behind a toxic friend made it hit especially close to home, and even more terrifyingly, I am totally able to understand why people would fall for this bullshit.
People say it's easy to act like everything is everyone else's fault. But *no one* says anything about how easy it also is to say everything is your own fault in life, regardless of if you even had a choice in the first place. You can try to change, you can actively be working to be better, but the feeling never truly stops haunting you.
It's always the "why did they make me do this?" and not the "why couldn't I stop this?" that gets the attention of people, and it breaks my heart, because crushing yourself under the weight of sins that aren't even your own just because you weren't an absolutely spotless person is just as harmful to yourself as it is to other to be pointing the finger at innocents.
Scientology does the exact same thing. Dianetics is a guide to self-abuse.
That part would immediately turn me away. I recently became aware of how I blamed everything on myself and JUST finally crawled my way out of that habit. I'm now very aware when I notice that way of thinking. I'd nope tf right out of there insta once I saw that lol
out of curiosity what cults don't rub you the wrong way? do you just vibe with aum Shinrikyo or some shit.
The forced transitioning stuff is so fucked. When i was first coming out and trying to explore my gender, someone i knew tried to convince me i was trans fem and needed to transition fully. Its hard to explain how it feels, its almost worse than disphoria because of how suffocating it is. I cut him out a while back, and now I'm just competing with regular transphobia instead.
It's called being groomed. Same thing almost happened to me.
jesus christ bro thats awful…
i'd say it's definitely more cruel to force someone into transitioning than to stop them from doing so. not saying that the latter isn't bad though. people should figure out for themselves what they are, not have someone tell them.
Wait what's your gender?
@@insertherealotofeyeemojis2185 guessing nonbinary, since a lotta us deal with people tryna say we’re “just in the process of becoming ‘fully trans’” (i hated typing that lmfao) and try to make us think we HAVE to fully transition or else we’re not actually ‘trans enough’. its really fuckin stupid
Bro has 2,500 hours on overwatch no wonder he’s a complete nutjob 😭
I just started this, but only a few minutes in, holy hell. The mirror exercise is a dangerous precedent. The, "everything that happens to you is your fault" is very easy to lean into, "your trauma is your fault." Thoughts like that tend to already circle traumatized people's heads. The cult instilling that as "fact" must destroy people like that.
It is a pretty good way of pick and mixing people, picking the most tormented, traumatised people and making them weaker by destroying their sense of self and keeping people who do not agree with their ideas out of the mix. They do set a bad example of themselves to people who are totally fine, which obviously can lead to this vile cult being destroyed inside or out. Ever notice how religions offer gifts and peace? Cults do exactly the opposite of that, because religions, actual true religions like Christianity, Judaism and others promise something good at the end of all this, cults set out to destroy every pillar of what makes a person a person, effectively making them give into the cult out of desperation but there are flaws with cults because once people realise that they are their own self outside the chosen cult(s), it falls apart. Basically cults present themselves as spiritual or receiving holy grace on the outside but its pure hell in the inside. Thanks for listening to my ted talk (given I went a little out of line.)
As a trans man, what ann went through with the cult is completely horrific. Experiencing gender dysphoria is something I wouldn’t wish on anyone, And forcing someone into transition against their will is somehow worse, especially threatening it with her job on the line. Hearing about that happening to her and so many others made my stomach drop.
and the system is confusing kids and causing gender dyspgoria in TONS of children!
@@NightmareRex6 what system?
I doubt they've actually spent 500K for a mod like this. It's a basic mod with some questing and storylines. People make this stuff for free all the time. He's probably paid hundreds at most, and probably in a simple one-time payment. The 500K label is just to boost the hype for the mod.
Vebalbase spent 50k for an animated video, this cult spent 500k for a minecraft mod... I noticed a trend here.
tbh I'd rather have people spend that much money on full length nsfw animations rather than cult recruiting
As a trans man, I am EXTREMELY sad for those who were coaxed into transition.
If you are trans.. you are trans. You work differently psychologically than those who are NOT trans. I can't even believe the psychological torment of transitioning as a cisgender person. No. That is horrifying to me. The trauma they will experience is unfathomable. Even just names and pronouns. They are definitely damaged psychologically. That's just disgusting. That thing should be in prison.
It is horrific and I’m honestly surprised that transphobes haven’t latched onto this specifically to back up their bullshit.
same bestie
literally... i was mortified when i first heard it. after living the majority of their lives comfortable with their gender, having that dysphoria suddenly forced upon them? absolutely horrifying. i hope everyone he manipulated is able to find comfort with themselves again
srsly! someone forced to live that way is probably going to deal with the same body dysmorphia, thoughts & bull that someone trans could have pre transition. bc at the end of the day no one should be forced into living a lie :(
i mean, i'd imagine that a cisgender person would not care as much? transgender individuals like us can care because we were primed *to* care. gender was made *into* a sore subject for us, and our way of coping with that sore subject was to live aligned with a different gender than was assigned to us. the cis dont change their gender because they dont have to cope with a sore subject. people who, say, are secure in their sexuality may not care at all if someone calls them gay, for example. because they know who they are. a genderqueer person being forced into a gender role they are uncomfortable with are being forced to reckon with a sore subject, a straight person would likely just be annoyed and shrug it off because of a lack of personal investment in the topic.
Satan saying "my child will ask Jeff for an autography" and Jesus thinking of a Charter Arms Undercover .38 Special revolver
the flow and pacing of this video, switching back and forth between the mod and the TFU story, was really well executed and is why i finished the video
Alittle funny how I’ve been on a channel binge for a couple hours after discovering it today…you post a video…and it SO happens to be about Minecraft mods as a developer I never even heard of this mod, and you are totally right about them not making 500k back if anything at most they probably made 20-80k at MOST
Psycho-analyzing a dude yelling expletives at his students is just so funny. Like, I can clearly see what's wrong lmao
Twin Flame Universe, TFU for short... hmm... idk how popular this is elsewhere, but in my region "tfu" is used as a written expression of the spitting action. I think that's very fitting.
🇵🇱? 🤨
@@birdmann9529must be general eastern europe cause same with my language (not polish)
TIFU by joining TFU
8:50
Me: I bet it's to make people feel even more insecure and/or unhealthy so they'll rely on the cult more, right?
Farrell: Jeff prefers larger women.
Me: Oh...
Edit: Oh, I was also right!
Both things apply. And just to make it abundantly clear, actual weight-gain enthusiasts, the ones that aren’t abusive make a big deal about consent as it applies to food. Pound for pound (no pun intended), niche interest communities somehow do consent better than people who aren’t involved at all
And it gets worse immediately after!
@lancesmith8298 most fettishes with organized communities are very strict on consent (particularly informed consent) and etiquette within their circles because they are aware of how much someone can f you up legally (not romantically) if you engage in that kind of preference/play without those protections in place.
Somehow this scares me more than Scientology
you should be more scared of scientology, they have much greater influence and are much better at hiding the bad stuff
I agree. At least with the Church of Scientology, you can figure out pretty easily with a bit of research that they only care about you for your money
As someone who is trans, forcing someone to transition is a cardinal sin. I hate when people do that to other people.
Delegitimizes our struggles a lot...
Reminds me of the David Reimer case. Literally every trans person I know thinks that it was a huge tragedy and that John Money was a transphobic pedo creep, but that doesn’t stop conservatives from using it to smear all trans people
If only your community didn't do that too to children then i would take you seriously
@@DiamondWorldUA-cam In your wildest delusions. Take your meds.
@@DiamondWorldUA-camthe case in this video quite literally proves you can't just force someone to be trans...
Literally even a highly influenced long term cult member didn't just become trans because they were told to. That was the whole situation...
Do better. Learn more. Have some actual understanding for people and kids who are struggling with a medically recognised diagnosis, it's not just thoughts in your head, it is literally a globally understood and medically backed condition even countries where it is illegal act, it is still recognised as a genuine medical reality
And just for a second consider all the adults who have had to go through their own childhood being told "you aren't gay or trans because you are a child" when it turns out they quite literally were gay or trans as it's proven time and time again it's not a thing you can just force on someone and that goes both ways, it's something you either are or aren't.
250 hours in Minecraft is baby numbers. Also, Jeff has got to be one of the weirdest cult leaders I’ve ever heard about (aside from that one guy who led a cult centered on the belief that he could fly) - and I’m a Wendigoon viewer. With every new thing I learn about him, I have another what the fuck moment.
Are you talking about that japanese doomsday cult that poisoned a metro station?
@@kyrazz128 wait what?
Edit: nvm I think it may have been that one
@@kyrazz128 The Aum Shinrikyo. I don't remember too many asian words but I remember that group, seared into my brain, they wanted to destroy all life on earth, real life doomsday cult.
idk there is that Russian cult that worship Gadget from Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers
@@somethingmaybe3858 _what._
It's crazy how something like this is still standing and doing so well today, even though it is so blatantly nefarious.
Branching into the game industry is definitely a way to either make more money or attract more cult members(especially children for whatever twisted plan they have for them).
They really need to be stopped, ASAP!!!
This was hard to watch, but not because the video was bad. The story and the cult is truly sadistic, and I hope for the best from anyone involved.
jeff: (marley's) situation is yikes, i would be fucked. but shes perfectly happy!
marley: regularly sobbing in meetings without reason
anyway wow, pyramid scheme cult is not what i expected. "divine gaming" is incredibly bizarre too. it's name sounds so satirical lol, but the mod indepth enough to be real
I know USA has a very different culture but still not over her parents letting her do this at all
@@CoolMagmarhow old dis she say she was? Many of the people I know were expected to leave asap at 18
@@bbyrdie being expected to move out is one thing.. allowing your teenage daughter to live with a schizophrenic criminal states away is an entirely different thing.
@@ayana9490 no I definitely agree with you, I just mean that they really didn’t have control over her if she had already turned 18 and left. If her parents were involved then they 100% had the responsibility to protect her. Unfortunately even if they thought she was in danger, it’s not like they could go take her back home against her will.
And I kinda misspoke earlier, I think that good parents wouldn’t leave their child with no other options than moving in with an abusive partner. I didn’t mean for it to sound like it was ok because she was supposed to leave home- I only meant that lots of 18yo are supposed to leave and support themselves the best they can, so they couldn’t really stop her from doing what she wanted if she left like society expects.
I just went out of my way to report this mod's association with cult activity to the Curseforge admins using the Report feature. I advise you all to do the same, because this association breaks CurseForge's Community Guidelines and Terms Of Use.
I would really like to report it, but I cannot find the specific paragraph of the Community Guidelines and Terms of Use that states that, could you please tell me the exact paragraph?
nevertheless i am still going to play this modpack. Many people invested their time in it. This modpack is so much fun
Snitches get stitches
@@darkshadow99-ny2ctI’m fairly certain non-snitches would get stitches in this case. People in the hood hate cult members.
@@Venty. Nice try Jeff
Hey Farrell, thank you for being so respectful about trans people while simultaneously shutting down this cult’s despicable way of thinking about gender. It would have been easy to shun trans people but you took care of it swiftly and kindly-you’re right, a person’s gender and identity is their own to explore and declare, not something that can be forced upon them. Really lovely to hear your thoughts! :)
2 PISTOLS AND A SHOTGUN that made me stop for a second😂
And the goat lady looks suspiciously like an owl
I wanna craft that trenchcoat now.
Man, why are fictional cult leaders so much cooler than real ones?
Fictional cult leaders: "With this 111th new moon virgin sacrifice, product of so many years of hard work, ur'Gonakkhrai will grant me the power to become supreme over humanity! I will become his avatar and usher in the end of days!"
Real cult leaders: "Uh, so, if you give me enough money, uh... Something cool might happen I guess? Like all your fantasies coming true? Also you need to do exactly what I say until you think exactly like me. Now go make me money, I have to decide whether to claim I'm Jesus, Buddha, or both."
Because real cult leaders do not have the powers they claim to have, while fictional ones either do or have access to said powers from an external source.
All real cult leaders are narcicists. No one else would convince themselves theyre the messiah.
Oh no, not these guys! The level of hurt these guys brought to the world is criminal.
understatement of the millennium dawg
23:38
This is false. It was developed as a joke by the guy who made Hong Kong 97
I really wanted to watch this video til the end, but the forced transitioning stuff was just too much. Gender dysphoria is not something I'd wish upon anyone. I'm trans, and I was forced into taking hormones that match the gender I was assigned at birth because it was supposed to "cure" my transness. It was horrible. I can't imagine how awful it must be for a cis person.
Damn sorry you had to go through that
If that made you stop watching then grow up
@@anonanonymous9670 Shut up you whiny brat. "WAGH WAGH, HOW DARE YOU NOT REACT WELL TO BEING REMINDED OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL TRAUMA!" You are not right in the head.
@@anonanonymous9670 my dude this person got traumatized as a kid have some actual empathy
This isn't going to turn into a pipeline to recruit, it already is if the discord is active with two thousand people. They're probably already using it to recruit by seeming like a "wholesome and welcoming" community to get people to let their guards down, and with so many younger folks without much life experience it'll be easy pickings unfortunately.
If I was taking some "class" and had the instructor talk to me like that I imagine we would have one short arguement and I would be done with that nonsense. What a piece of work this guy is, "Divine", the only thing divine about him is the level of humor, dark humor about how much of a joke someone like him is. Its a shame vulnerable people get roped in by these freaks.
The abbreviation is throwing me, because I'm a Transformers fan, and TFU is also the name of a website that catalogs them...
They don't look like twin flames, they just look like twins.
Weirdly fitting at 19:35 he looks like Joseph Seed from Farcry 5.
4:35 This guy legit sounds and acts like Dennis from Sunny in Philadelphia
LIAR!!!!
That fucking sent me 💀
4:18 Ah yes, paying someone to sit there and gaslight you. How *fun.*
the pacing of this was really good. i loved the shift from seeing your face, seeing gameplay, and seeing various relevant images and videos. kept me engaged. also, i like how you kept coming back and forth from the mod and the information about the cult. very engaging, great writing! thank you
As a Romanian... I'm so, SO sorry these two devs spawned here.
This guy needs to fix his sound settings. No matter how low I turn my volume down, it feels like my eardrums are being blasted. No other video does this, just this guy's.
23:39 While the mentioned game was made some developers (same ones as Hong Kong 97) to make fun of the cult, in the same magazine that game was published in, actual games and apps made by the cult were mentioned. You can read about it in the first volume of Game Urara (ゲームウララ) from 1995, pages 156-159 (NSFW warning, the same magazine had many other NSFW topics unrelated to Aum)
This is an entire giant rabbit hole itself (both the cult, their media and even the unrelated magazine) that could have mutiple hours of analysis videos.
I loved the part about a cult being scammed out of 500 grand by some mod developer who made it
Fattening members with divine meals while intentionally keeping their self-esteem low so they feel like nobody but other members of the cult could possibly love them is just a variation of a common tactic used by cults and predators. The difference is that the usual tactic starts with targeting somebody who already has low self-esteem and an undesirable trait to make them feel unlovable.
As a Trans man this is NOT where I thought this video was going...
not a man
@@bob13513 Does this make you feel like a big strong boy?
So you’re a girl
Completely off topic from the vid, but where did you get the info for the money spent to make mods at 23:52?
I'm genuinely curious because I'm someone whos made machinima for GTA V for years now and who relies on various mods to create machinima, I've never heard of "GTA V Los Santos 2023" and absolutely nothing comes up when I search it. It's like it doesn't exist.
I can understand the spiritual food, I would also get spiritual after a burger and a beer
How much dedotated WAM do I need to run this mod?
at least 8 ham slices
just downlod FOUR wams from the internets
6 GB
It's like 12 mods and runs shaders well, pretty fun lol
Two of them
I'm genuinely impressed at how easily the video made me forget this was about a Minecraft mod
The f'ed up part about their grift is that they completely changed the meaning if the term "twin flame". In awakening/ new age circles, twin flames were not supposed to just be your soul mate. They were someone you were karmically tied to and fated to get entangled with, but that isnt a good thing. You aren't even necessarily supposed to have a relationship. It's often draining and bad and a hindrance to your actual spiritual work. Not sure TFU is responsible for being the first to change that interpretation, but they definitely ran with the misunderstanding
I'm glad someone said this, I was thinking the same thing! It will definitely have a permanent impact on the use of the term in spiritual spaces, I think
The way my jaw dropped during that "forced transition" part. Deeply disturbing
I never knew this mod was about a cult...I played that mod...
theres a documentary about TFU either on either Max or Netflix if you want a deeper dive on the cult
Would be nice to see some more research into the mod's assets since I'm skeptical that couple made everything themselves.
More research isn't needed. They hired independent artists and programmers. That's why they blew through 500k.
@@Blaez_Dev more specifically: did this couple just hire people on fiver and pocket most of the cash? Did they reuse assets from other people? Did they contribute themselves or just manage the team? etc.
@GYOJIBOT abit of everything. Fiver, discord communities and such, they hired from where ever was possible. They did not reuse assets, and they contributed themselves aswell as managed the teams efforts. ( honestly we were compensated more then fairly for our time and they did keep separation from the team and tfu however I left before it became a aelf insert power fantasy)
@@Blaez_Dev Interesting, thanks!!
Okay but the giant list of required Minecraft items casually including "2 pistols and a shotgun" is the best thing to come out of this whole debacle
I never knew about this existing. Genuinely insane.
incredible video, was not expecting this honestly but i really enjoyed it, thanks for making this farrell c:
i have a guide on how to find your twin flame:
1st step: do not objectify people, love them for who they are
2nd step: interact with lots of people and find someone who matches u a lot and is also as loving as you became
3rd step: well just treat them good because they probably love u unconditionally and i bet u do too so just care abt eachother and have a wholesome life together
theres rlly no secret recipe.. u just need to be able to truly love someone and find who is similar enough to spend time together and also is able to truly love others.
i had lots of friends and relationships before finding mah boi, i found him in a small retro tech youtube channel and we are together for years now.. we just met in a place with a common interest and just care infinitely for eachother.... so just do what u like and u eventually find someone.. might take a long time but u will
The cult leader must be a mistborn man. The hero of the ages is the chosen one from that series
Pretty sure those dragons are explicitly not skyrim style, as skyrim has wyverns, rather than quadrupedal dragons. (4 vs 6 limbs)
I think he just means free-roaming dragons
My neighbors are setting off fireworks at 1 AM.
Mirror technique:
I am setting off fireworks at 1 AM.
ill yell at people for 10$. save yourself 3323$ and have me yell at you instead!
I don't know. Will you encourage me to eat unhealthy?
very interesting and well-made video. your music is also wonderful! it's always nice to come across new caretaker-inspired music with a high bar of quality.
Thanks for shedding light on this insanity for those of us who don't have Netflix!!
There is a prime documentary as well
23:33 don’t forget Kanye Quest 3030!
I'm glad that you began the transitioning part with acknowledging that people who do so are usually happy and must be respected. Coercion into transitioning is extremely rare, usually found in these circumstances (which are also rare), and it's never about being transgender - it's about control. I'm willing to bet he would encourage a trans woman to detransition if she happened to join too...
hey man i'm late but wonderful job handling the topic of transition carefully. it's good that you clarified that someone's transition should be their own choice, in cases like this and also in cases of actual trans people. you're clearly an intelligent person and actually look into things before making crazy judgements.
Is there a download link for this world, I’m genuinely curious to see what this is. Obviously I have zero interest in joining the cult I just want to see what this cult created out of a sort of morbid curiosity.
Edit: Nevermind, it just takes a bit of digging to find the mod, will be checking it out later tonight.
I mean they spent 500k I’d imagine it at least be fun
Thanks for doing this video! TFU and especially their reprehensible leaders need calling out on a MASSIVE level.
I'm really loving all of your videos so far! Please keep up the excellent work!
You did an awesome job on this video. Hopefully it will reach people who were interested in playing Nightmare Craft and stop them from joining the Discord. I'd bet money that TFU intends to use it for recruitment purposes.
Yeah, this Jeff guy is actually insane
I hope this spreads across youtube and several social medias. Can't believe I almost played this modpack...
Aside from the obvious new target group of young and easily influenced teenagers in the Minecraft community, is there also a possibility, there might be some malicious code in the mod? Or maybe something planned for the future?
I don’t know, but the discord server for the mod didn’t mention anything about the cult, though I didn’t look too much into it myself and only talked in it to see if it was a mod i could play by myself in addition to other mods
This is genuinely horrid though, glad I heard about this before I interacted there any further
I guess not, curseforge had some problems before but i dont think the mod would be active by now if it had something.
Very glad I found you, your content is insanely well done.