@Antonio Iniguez No she isn't, her ev's are set to max so her Pokémon would easily out speed yours and the attacks would be increased. She is also the first champion programmed to switch Pokémon almost guaranteed to faint yours. By far she is the hardest champion to beat, the only way it would be easy is if you knew her Pokémon. But that's no fun. Also most people who beat her used there legendary (palkia or dialga) which in my opinion ruins the fun
@@SamGaming360 If all pokemon are level 50 it would be easy though assuming you had an ice type for garchomp. Rest of her team can be beaten pretty easily with pretty common pokemon types with the exception of spiritomb. She is still by far the hardest champion though, because of how high level her pokemon are and how generally good they are.
@@thedon6079Of course she is easy if you know her pokemon or use legendaries. But if you don't know her team/or don't use legendaries then she was easily able to wipe the floor with you.
I beat Wallace in emerald on my first time. I was happy, roaming in Mt. Meteor searching for a bagon. I saw Steven standing far inside and was curious. So I clicked to talk. Biggest mistake.
@@whereisezraa5825 .... idk about yall but steven gave me more problems than cynthia cynthia took me 9 tries to beat cynthia and 17 to beat Steven also if you have a garchomp of your own with perfect speed and attack EVs you can just Ohko her garchomp
You don't see a Garchomp the whole game and suddenly you got this beast who you have no idea how to deal with(if your playing through the game for the first time).
NintenDex I always grinded to at least level 63 for all my pokemon I tot it was enough then NOPE Cynthia just rekt my whole team without even using 4 pokemon
I was barely under leveled too, but i had a Garchomp too and i used the last rare candies i had too make it at the same level as her Garchomp lmao, very memorable battle 😁
@@mohammedhoque5189 You know how i defeated her? My lvl 55 Haxorus used Dragon Dance 6 times, and I got lucky with Spiritomb's x3 evasion, and after that it was only sweeping
Me on my 16th try at Cynthia: alright, the spiritomb is on one health, let's use a weak mov- Cynthia: YOU CANT BE CHAMPION OF THE POKEMON LEAGUE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW TO USE FULL RESTORES
oh right, in gen 4 esp, they always used Full restores when their mon is around 30% or less HP or something like that, which meant I had to pln carefully NOT to hurt te opponent into less than 30%, and make sure to BEAT with a strong move before the trianer has a chance to use Full Restore, cuz more than half the time they'll do that. Even trainers besides the champ does this.
I love how people say Blue puts you down when he really doesn’t, it’s more just friendly banter. If you really think he puts you down, try playing the Gen 2 games with Silver...
Cynthia is Boss 💛 The fact that the Gym Leaders, the Elite Four and Cynthia are strong and challenging oppondnts makes the Sinnoh Games so great as they are in my opinion :)
Only Cynthia gave me a challenge maybe due to my habit of trying to get the best pokemon, I literally had the same team besides Milotic and Spiritomb. The gym leaders were easy because they had like 2 of their gyms type and one unrelated so with a diverse team you could compensate. But gens 1-4 are are doubt the harder regions.
Gods... that's half a week of grinding in my life I don't want back... Finally get through Sinnoh E4, only for Cynthia to just DEMOLISH me... It's because of Gen 4 that any time I do a Nuzlocke or just a normal LP, I AM MORE FRUGAL THAN MY JEWISH NEIGHBORS! Seriously, by the time I get done grinding to 50-55 (depending on Gen), I have more than enough to get about 20+ Full Restores and 30 or so Revives, with other items to help out. This coming from a guy who didn't know about the Physical/Special Split... which explained why Fire Blast on Infernape did nothing....
Am I the only one who hates having legendary on their team during a walk though. during every Pokemon game I've ever played once I got the legendary into the pc for you
Gaming Master I agree that cynthias is awesome. She probably the most epic battle along with Blue. Blues theme is great too. All of the champions were great besides Lance and Alder in my opinion.
Any champion, or any trainer, that specializes in one type is SO easy! For Lance AND Iris, all you need is a Dragon-Type Pokémon with the ability that prevents it from being confused, and knows Outrage! OP combo there!
@@nemesisxtheory40 Cynthia in BW2 is alot easier than in diamond and pearl just cuz the pokemon in bw2 end up being stronger than those in the 4th gen for the most part.
Red looks more than he actually does. Half of his team could be taken out quickly by my Tyranitar. Every Pokémon I had could beat grass-types except for Tyranitar, so Venusaur was out. Snorlax is just bulky. Have a rock, steel or ghost-type and Snorlax is out. The only Pokémon of his that gave me trouble was Blastoise, since I had nothing for water-types.
I was such an innocent soul back when I played Pearl. I lost to Cynthia and blacked out and I thought that I had messed up the game or something! hahaha
Iris was WAY harder than Alder and Lance. Her team was faster and higher leveled for one, not to mention her pokemon were holding items and status inducing moves. I remember her battle very well and it was tough.
J.J. Veliz actually, you didn't post the words "this is my opinion" or anything like that, and I don't know why you are trying to lie to me. But no matter the reason, it is clear that you aren't a very good liar.
yes..using a fire type can easily beat steven...still remember using swampert at that time and no high level fire pokemon...fucking hard to beat him....fuhhh....
Yes someone else who thinks so! I totally murdered her and ohko'ed most of her pokémon and I'm just ??? IDK if it was because I spent a really long time grinding because I didn't think I was ready... And it turns out I ohko'ed almost all of the elite four... -seriously I rekt them, ohko'ed first 3, had a little difficulty with the last guy because of the typing, and Cynthia was a walk in the park-
I feel like it is important to point out that despite the low levels of Lance's pokemon, in HGSS you feel underlevel ALL THE TIME. I had to grind often in the game to come even close to beating his 3 dragonites
Agreed on the first part; the level curve wasn’t improved from GSC at all. Then again, Ampharos and Lapras make a good sweeping combo that’s only seen in Johto, so it’s not bad at low levels. I won with most of my Pokemon at level 35. Only my Ampharos and Dragonair were at 40.
Right? It has some of the most unique and interesting Pokemon out there! Excadrill, Volcarona, Eelektross, Klinklang, Reuniclus, Serperior... So many battle strategies and cool designs! SO good!
Mr. Green Banana Gary was a joke. I was only troubled by his Arcanine who could tank my Snorlax's Earthquake, but ofc I took it down with Hydro Cannon.
It’s ok Mr. Green Banana, I feel you on that alakazam. Fucker was a bitch to deal with back when we didn’t all know Pokémon like it was a goddamn school subject.
@@johnbailey5835 he is talking about pokemon who is strong defensively against ground type moves, and none of the pokemon you mentioned resist ground type lmao
It’s always fun to look back at old videos, because now with hindsight, we can put Kukui at 2 and move everyone except Cynthia down one... and Leon I guess...
I've been doing a play through of platinum so I could beat the hardest trainer of all time. NOW YOUR TELLING ME SHE GOT NERFED FROM DIAMOND AND PEARL?!?!?
She didn't really get nerfed in Platinum. Even when you account for the reduction in levels, she remains the toughest. I thought I had a pretty decent lineup with Houndoom, Gengar, Magnezone, Togekiss, Garchomp, and Empoleon, all Levels 57-59, and I did pay some attention to EV training (well, about as much as you can for an in-game team which is not much attention at all), but I still ended up losing 4 Pokemon (only Empoleon and Houndoom survived) partly due to critical hits and switch-outs. I think everyone is just grateful that her Togekiss in Platinum had Hustle and not Serene Grace.
Diantha might have actually been hard if XY's exp share wasn't super overpowered. They changed it in gen 7 so you aren't 20 levels above everything. Im really sad that Diantha is so weak considering that she uses my favorite pokemon.
I hope the post game allows you to fight all the champions and gym leaders. the gym leader/champion could come to alola to have a holiday or something and you fight them then
But for some teason you cant unequip those FUCKING SKATES I know you can use the d-pad, but I just naturally use the circle pad Those goddamn skates make the game way harder, i can barely navigate, let alone dodge annoying trainers
Honestly,getting through the Elite Four just to battle Professor Kukui is too much hard work. EDIT:Not to mention he uses the FULL EVOLVED FORM OF THE STARTER THAT IS STRONGER THAN YOUR STARTER YOU PICKED
Diamond was my first Pokémon game, so Cynthia was my first champion. That battle was awful, but it also made me a much better trainer far quicker than I would have been otherwise.
Ik red isnt a champion and no he wasnt very difficult but red impacted me a lot. I was just told to go there after gary and then after 10 minutes in this mountain I found a protagonist. the protagonist you just played in red, blue, yellow. And then bam a level 83 pikachu pops up and destroys my traded lapras with one move. I still won but damn the shock i had from seeing him
TheGung-HoGamer I would argue that Red, while maybe not the hardest battle, is probably the most memorable. Plus how can you not like Red? I mean, he was literally you!
If I would argue, Red is a champion. Why do they share with Lance's theme? Why does he had that some kind of badge on his chest as a champion? Yeah, if Red has his own theme, your right that he's not a champion. But we can't complain to it, bro.
Marcia Silva well, HE doesn't want the title being "Former Kanto Champion" or "Kanto Champion", but you still fight him AS a champion, understand? P.S.: Titles doesn't mean a champion.
I feel like people who say diantha is hard without an Exp share haven't played the older games Here's how I would rank the champions from easiest to hardest 9. Diantha- With or without the exp share, her team is easy. You are given a mega lucario, and, if you were early, a mega blaziken with speed boost, add in a Charizard and a greninja... 8. Wallace- From Pokemon emerald, wallace only used water types... He was easy too 7. Lance- 2 words. Ice. Types. 6. N-(simply because ghetsis was 100x harder) 5. Iris- she was actually a decent challenge because of her movepool 4. Steven- his Pokemon were bulky, high leveled, well rounded champion overall 3. Blue/Gary- this battle took me 10+ tries (glitchless ofc) -his types are very well rounded 2.Kukui- Lowkey a lot of people sleep on him, he's hard! (I think I spelled his name wrong) 1.Cynthia- the God of champions. She made garchomp look like some legendary Pokemon, spiritomb is a bitch, even in B&W, and just everything about her was a challenge
The only way I was able to level up “quickly” to prepare for the sinnoh elite four and Cynthia is grinding one Pokémon holding the exp share at a time at victory road.
you know what's funny is that they made her worse in gen 5 I heard rumors about something to do with dark void on her spiritomb or something like that like seriously did she NEED any more reasons to make trainers struggle
I believe lance needs more discussion because damn HGSS was ridiculously tough in that rematch for starters rematch elite 4 members were lvl 58-66 but lance was 68-75 sure lance didn’t have the setup Pokemon like iris (although a dragon dancing gyrados will ruin your life) his team is a nightmare a garchomp and Salamance to grind you down to a point of little hope a bulky altaria that will end you if you have no ice typing and of course the meteoring dragonite sure this is a rematch but however this is the only real way to train for red so it’s basically you sweep will-karen then you get to lance then you have to really put to thought how you’re going to beat him because salamance and garchomp are fast to a point where your Pokémon with ice type moves are wiped before your eyes so I don’t think it makes him the hardest champion but it really puts him higher on the list
+TheRagingInfernape Pokemon, MMORPGs and more i was underleveld by 6 level at the elite foure and it was anoying becuse it feels like you did not get any exp
I finally got a copy of a gen 4 game, Pokémon Pearl, and judging by me losing to the first rival battle, I know I’m gonna be screwed when it comes time to battle Cynthia
Out of the games I've played so far, (gen 5 and onwards) the hardest has to be iris from black and white 2, I had no ice moved prepared to got absolutely annihilated at least 7 times, before deciding to get lapras with ice beam, which did make it a lot easier
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Why have 1 Dragonite
*WHEN YOU CAN HAVE 3*
-Lance
You don't get to be champion of the Pokemon league without knowing how to spam full restores
Underleveled
*Lance Intensifies*
yuckyyuckyyucky
i literally remember crying when he sent out the third one
Did you become the Kalos Champion?
Yes.
What did it cost?
6PP.
Accurate
I don't get it :/
@@RavenPaven Diantha was so easy, you could beat her whole team in a total of 6 moves.
@@therock4569 oh right I play in the German language and it's "AP" there thx for clearing up.
@@therock4569
Diantha honestly doesn't even deserve a champion status
Literally noone:
A 10 years old:
CyNtHiA wAs So EaSy I bEaT hEr WiTh mY lvl 86 dIaLgA
@Antonio Iniguez well if you keep up with her levels she is
@Antonio Iniguez I haven't tried that . I beat her with a team with pokemon level 44-47 and it was very hard
@Antonio Iniguez No she isn't, her ev's are set to max so her Pokémon would easily out speed yours and the attacks would be increased. She is also the first champion programmed to switch Pokémon almost guaranteed to faint yours. By far she is the hardest champion to beat, the only way it would be easy is if you knew her Pokémon. But that's no fun. Also most people who beat her used there legendary (palkia or dialga) which in my opinion ruins the fun
@@SamGaming360 If all pokemon are level 50 it would be easy though assuming you had an ice type for garchomp. Rest of her team can be beaten pretty easily with pretty common pokemon types with the exception of spiritomb. She is still by far the hardest champion though, because of how high level her pokemon are and how generally good they are.
@@thedon6079Of course she is easy if you know her pokemon or use legendaries. But if you don't know her team/or don't use legendaries then she was easily able to wipe the floor with you.
I beat Wallace in emerald on my first time.
I was happy, roaming in Mt. Meteor searching for a bagon.
I saw Steven standing far inside and was curious. So I clicked to talk.
Biggest mistake.
Metagross beats you up with Meteor Mash
POV: you get demolished by a retired Master
I agree, metagross was tough
But this was at least possible to win..
Defeat Cynthia's Spiritomb without level, restores impossible....
@@whereisezraa5825 possible if you know what you are doing.
@@whereisezraa5825 ....
idk about yall
but steven gave me more problems than cynthia
cynthia took me 9 tries to beat cynthia and 17 to beat Steven
also if you have a garchomp of your own with perfect speed and attack EVs
you can just Ohko her garchomp
I lost to Cynthia 9 times, her LUCARIO was impossible beat for me, and when u finally beat it, guess who's waiting for ya.
A GARCHOMP
You don't see a Garchomp the whole game and suddenly you got this beast who you have no idea how to deal with(if your playing through the game for the first time).
FamossamboPlayz - Minecraft & More!!! Same deal with Spiritomb, I guarantee most everyone didn't know about that thing til the champion battle.
NintenDex I always grinded to at least level 63 for all my pokemon I tot it was enough then NOPE Cynthia just rekt my whole team without even using 4 pokemon
It felt like Cynthia just had all the strongest Sinoh Pokemon
Galaxy She pretty much does, you're almost always gonna feel outmatched in some way.
The hardest champion is
Full restore
Aryan trivedi which champion is hard with full restore? 🤔
Aryan trivedi aka Lance
Me: GO MEWTWO!
Red: GO FULL RESTORE!
Me: OH NO I WILL LOSE! D:
I will lose
I did not get your comment
I thought you said that i will lose or lose as a joke, not correcting me on my grammar. It's fixed my boi
I thought Cynthia was gonna be easy in Platinum and challenged her underlevelled. I got annithlated
Oof
I was barely under leveled too, but i had a Garchomp too and i used the last rare candies i had too make it at the same level as her Garchomp lmao, very memorable battle 😁
U thought cynthia was easy
R u crazy
M8 I beat cynthia in one try
Cynthia was way harder in platinum.
Even with Cynthia's "nerfs"in Platinum, she is no push over and will actually switch on you if you start showing type advantages.
Yeah freal I hate that! I got nerfed 3x.
Exactly. That’s why I dread it if I ever do a Platinum nuzlocke
I think cyntia is not hard for me it was steven who gave me trouble
@@hosanna5547 haha
@@blazingexil4003 ?
You Don't get to be champion of the Pokemon league without spamming FULL RESTORES
PkMn trainer red wants to tango!
You should call your mom sometime...
Ugh (gold falls to the ground)
Heya Gold! I then heard there's a buttlord of Dunsparce fuckin' in a cave!
I don't care Anthony!
I didn't spam with full restores
Cynthia's music was also bomb. The whole thing was climactic, challenging, and rewarding.
tru
true
Topher Cadence I remember how intense that battle was the first time i played against her
I have never lost to Cynthia.
I also haven’t played Diamon, Pearl or Platinum yet.
Tincho Sabala Cynthia still shows up to piss you off in Black and White, I still remember going ape shit over spiritomb and it’s damn double tram
@@mohammedhoque5189 You know how i defeated her? My lvl 55 Haxorus used Dragon Dance 6 times, and I got lucky with Spiritomb's x3 evasion, and after that it was only sweeping
she easy dude...just use the dialga...she will sweep her pokemon easily
@@holyromanempire7955 using legendaries makes the game too easy
Use Ice Type and beat Cynthia
Me on my 16th try at Cynthia: alright, the spiritomb is on one health, let's use a weak mov-
Cynthia: YOU CANT BE CHAMPION OF THE POKEMON LEAGUE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW TO USE FULL RESTORES
oh right, in gen 4 esp, they always used Full restores when their mon is around 30% or less HP or something like that, which meant I had to pln carefully NOT to hurt te opponent into less than 30%, and make sure to BEAT with a strong move before the trianer has a chance to use Full Restore, cuz more than half the time they'll do that. Even trainers besides the champ does this.
A pokemon golder reference. I see you're a man of cilulture as well
That’s lances line
Spam*
Not just use
I'm so late but cynthia is as hard as red in hg/ss
Lance: "You don't know how to be champion of the Pokémon League without spamming FULL RESTORES!"
I know that reference! Lol. And it's also the truth.
Yeah lol from pokemon golder 😂!!!
You mean “You don’t get to be the champion of the Pokémon League without knowing how to spam full restores!!” *Cheat* *Cheat*
In spanish, tu no puedes llegar a ser campeon de la liga pokemon sin saber spamear restaurar todito!!!
Kirby and Max Pp and Max Revives
When I played against Cynthia I couldn't even get through her spirittomb
#CYNTHIAISBOSS
I remember my Torterra getting a crit razor leaf and one shotting Spiritomb lol
stab flare blitz to spiritomb's face should do...yeah.
JoK 141021 yeah you didn't do that, unless your torterra was level 75 or higher
JoK 141021 that sounds more reasonable, but the garchomp had flamethrower. I had empoleon so it wasnt a problem.
I used an aegislash when I first fought diantha
I thought my game glitched cause the credits started rolling almost immediately
Aegislash is so broken as a mon though :P
Same mine had iron head sacred sword shadow ball and night slash
Nice one bitch.
the Mega Lucario sweeps her entire team also
LoL hA hA
I love how people say Blue puts you down when he really doesn’t, it’s more just friendly banter. If you really think he puts you down, try playing the Gen 2 games with Silver...
I consider Blue and Silver both jerks, but for me, Silver was way worse. I mean just from the fact that he literally stole a starter........ damn.
Silver was a literal criminal. He goes around stealing pokemon and assaulting people. Blue's a jerk, but Silver's hands are rated E for Everyone.
@@kimberly_5682 Also, I'm pretty sure Silver tried to grope his rival.
@Zoe STEELE He strips Ethan/Kris/Lyra when he/she emerges from the Rocket Hideout in disguise.
Anyone else see that poll chart? 1 person voted for Diantha... poor soul.
I just finished pokemon Y this morning, my team was level 57-60, the only pokemon i didnt OHKO was hawlucha
I OHKOed every single Pokemon except Gardivoir because if Full Restores in X
Meh
Andrew Michael take away the exp share and the grinding you can do and then come back
Diantha never killed any of my pokemon or the elite four members didn't either
Awesome working with you Aura :)
Hello
You're favourite Pokemon is tentacruel right?
:)
+TheAuraGuardian lol i startet at 500 subs and now 72000 wow
Nolan Evans Lol yes it is :)
The champions are often seen as the strongest trainer of that region
Red: am I a joke to you?
You mean
Red: ... ... ... ...
@@oscaralonsosainzchavez9521 You did that right, mate. 😂
*often*
Don’t dot dot dot me!
Diantha was also so easy...
That wasn't even a battle
Me: *looks at title*
Also me: Cynthia Cynthia Cynthia Cynthia Cynthia
Yup Cynthia allllllll the wayyyyyyyy
@Jordan Oduor steven put me through every stage of grief in about 2 seconds when I first fought him
cynthia 4 ever
The most difficult....
Is the player.
*cough cough* Sun and Moon *cough cough*
>legendaries
>full restore spam
>REVIVE spam
Mean while in ultra sun
NEVROZMA B
No the LORD FULL RESTORE AND THE LORD MAX REVIVE
@@sweezo4971 PRIMARINA MOON BLAST
Cynthia is Boss 💛 The fact that the Gym Leaders, the Elite Four and Cynthia are strong and challenging oppondnts makes the Sinnoh Games so great as they are in my opinion :)
Only Cynthia gave me a challenge maybe due to my habit of trying to get the best pokemon, I literally had the same team besides Milotic and Spiritomb. The gym leaders were easy because they had like 2 of their gyms type and one unrelated so with a diverse team you could compensate. But gens 1-4 are are doubt the harder regions.
The Sinnoh games are so fucking bad
totally agree
+Jared Pierre i respect youre opinion but sorry i loved platinum
Gods... that's half a week of grinding in my life I don't want back... Finally get through Sinnoh E4, only for Cynthia to just DEMOLISH me... It's because of Gen 4 that any time I do a Nuzlocke or just a normal LP, I AM MORE FRUGAL THAN MY JEWISH NEIGHBORS! Seriously, by the time I get done grinding to 50-55 (depending on Gen), I have more than enough to get about 20+ Full Restores and 30 or so Revives, with other items to help out. This coming from a guy who didn't know about the Physical/Special Split... which explained why Fire Blast on Infernape did nothing....
Man as a 7 year old, cynthia was a wall for me that took like 2 weeks to take down, my pokemon were underleveled and my starter only had HM’s
Nothing wrong with HM's if you use it against a pokemon that is weak to the HM's type. Make sure your pokemon are fast though.
Cynthia was the bessssstttttt. Last time ive played diamond pearl was probably 10 years ago and i still have great memories of that fight
C'mon everybody knows the guy with the 6 magikarp is the strongest trainer.
Yes man kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Facts
Specially if you are a speed runner that kind of shit cost the run som times hahah
That bridge after Eterna forest is there the guy with the 6 magicarps is at if ur wondering. He should be called Fisherman Andrew
yeah because 1 isnt enough
I laughed so hard when you pointed out the fact she has a Lucario as the reason why she's the hardest. You and MysticUmbreon deserves a prize. XD
:D
+TheAuraGuardian if there was no exp share would diantha be on the list?
Only because of Lucario?
Fuck her Garchomp, man ;~;
Even that Cynthia is number 1, She was the first champion i ever fought, and i was so happy when a beat it ( with my torterra using rasor Leaf)
He said it was why she was the BEST champion, not why she was the hardest.
Me: oh god he has a dragonite! Lance: Theres 3, actually
Cynthia was a pain back in platinum, imagine if the milotic was swapped with a METAGROSS!
When I was younger I thought that Metagross was a legendary Pokemon...
It still is *PSEUDO* Legendary
Almost
And i thought togekiss dragonite Tyranitar absol lapras lucario and zoroark are legendary
I thought zoroark was a legedary for the longeeest time bcs of the movie about it
Who burst ur bubble that it isn’t a legendary?
Am I the only one who hates having legendary on their team during a walk though. during every Pokemon game I've ever played once I got the legendary into the pc for you
You're not alone, that's what I always do.
Cameron McGee i'm relieved now, i'm not the only one,
Juan Zuluaga good to see I'm not alone either
Cameron McGee yeah. i love legendary pokemons
PokemonMaster Sceptile123 you're right
Iris's theme is so awesome.
Tom Lom it is but it's too happy Cynthia's was epic tho
Gaming Master I agree that cynthias is awesome. She probably the most epic battle along with Blue. Blues theme is great too. All of the champions were great besides Lance and Alder in my opinion.
Tom Lom well I don't agree with Lance since to me he was challenging
Cynthia's them is terribly intimidating. Iris' theme is colourfully exciting! It really shows off their characters well.
Any champion, or any trainer, that specializes in one type is SO easy! For Lance AND Iris, all you need is a Dragon-Type Pokémon with the ability that prevents it from being confused, and knows Outrage! OP combo there!
Easiest: Diantha
Hardest: Cynthia
Actually God-like: Red
I feel like cynthia is a way harder battle, red just has higher levels. Cynthia in bw2 gave me way more struggles than red ever did
@@nemesisxtheory40 Cynthia in BW2 is alot easier than in diamond and pearl just cuz the pokemon in bw2 end up being stronger than those in the 4th gen for the most part.
Red looks more than he actually does. Half of his team could be taken out quickly by my Tyranitar. Every Pokémon I had could beat grass-types except for Tyranitar, so Venusaur was out. Snorlax is just bulky. Have a rock, steel or ghost-type and Snorlax is out. The only Pokémon of his that gave me trouble was Blastoise, since I had nothing for water-types.
True.
Me when red is destroying me with his 1st pokémon- MEWTWO! HELP ME!
Gail Cottrell His Pikachu is a SPEED DEMON
And even in Platinum, Cynthia was still a monster.
I used garchomp to sweep diantha's whole team with only the moves dragon claw and crunch
Show Off!
That's the problem with all the champions - a bit anticlimactic if you are able to set up and sweep their whole team.
Ryan Wilmen | Baby!
I did as well but with iron head to counter Gardevoir
TheUltimateGamer I used lapras and and I destroyed her with icebeam
I still remember that day vividly when I battled Cynthia and it was pretty funny that it was my first Pokemon game.
Mine too, Cynthia tore me a new one. I mean my first pokemon game was pokemon mystery dungeon
My first was sun, Pearl was my second and I completely rekt Cynthia somehow
I was such an innocent soul back when I played Pearl. I lost to Cynthia and blacked out and I thought that I had messed up the game or something! hahaha
My first pokemon game was diamond, i struggled against only cynthia and aaron in the pokemon league. I have nightmares about that dustox
My first game was X and diantha was hard but I was a noob back then 😅😅
Kid: Cynthia is so easy
The Team: All level one hundred
The Bag: 99999 Rare Candy
CHEATING MEANS NOOB
CHEATER CHEATER PUMPKIN EATER
Bruh it's just a joke..
Even without lvl 100 legis she isnt as hard
"...it's Diantha."
*BULL#@&×*
"It's Cynthia"
That's more like it!
Cynthia's Lucario, Garchomp and back then - Spiritomb...
Me:...
Id believe He was serious when He Put Blue on 2. Have they looked at His Team?
Lul I remember her Garchomp sweeping my whole team...
I remember using an earlier burn on my Milotic to hard wall her with that Marvel Scale boosted Defense.
With Dragon Rush that never ever missed, no less...
Did you know that golduck did amazing work against Cynthia? Literally golduck and blaziken combo destroyed her.
Blaziken.. ?????????????????????????????? In diamond ????????????????????????????????????????
I love my waifus
wow brain fart I meant Infernape. The combo of Infernape roserade and golduck do ruin her team.
Iris was WAY harder than Alder and Lance. Her team was faster and higher leveled for one, not to mention her pokemon were holding items and status inducing moves. I remember her battle very well and it was tough.
J.J. Veliz good comment
J.J. Veliz have you ever heard of an...
OPINION!!!
J.J. Veliz actually, you didn't post the words "this is my opinion" or anything like that, and I don't know why you are trying to lie to me. But no matter the reason, it is clear that you aren't a very good liar.
I thought iris was ez. Alder was hard and I have never faced Lance
Captain Lollipop if you don't regard a person's basic comment as their opinion... theres something weird there
The champion in sun and moon definitely is the hardest. I haven't lost yet.
Perfect logic. That, and I disagree.
Noice, with our theme
Psst , sun and moon was the easiest pokemon game duh.
Ahahah it's the easiest..
@@swayykiddgaming1283 Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire is the easiest
AuraGuardian: *plays cynthia's theme*
D&P players: *Vietnam War flashbacks*
UNDERRATED COMMENT
I lost to Cynthia twice with a level 100 Empoleon on my team.
Well you're bad then.
Sameeeeeeeeeeee
How did you have a level 100 at that point in the game????
How did you have a level 100 at that point in the game????
How did you have a level 100 at that point in the game????
Cynthia had me spaming revives but rematching steven in oras was HARD
Heres one tip: Keep rebattling, and make use of TM's
I use primal Groudon versus Steven and its easy for me...
STEVEN WAS EASY TIP: BLAZIKEN
yes..using a fire type can easily beat steven...still remember using swampert at that time and no high level fire pokemon...fucking hard to beat him....fuhhh....
Oras is easy tho
Me: *Sees Lance*
A WILD DRACULA APPEARED
How many hits vill it take to beat Bruno?
Ahahah lance in that cloak 1000% dracula
Pokemon players have to always act supremist, “CyNtHiA wAs So EaSy I cAn SwEeP hEr WiTh A lEvEl 5 MaGiKaRp”
I never struggle with her but she is damn hard
Cynthia
Is
The
Greatest and most difficult
Yes!!
Agreed
*cough*Red*cough*
+Victor Fang what team?
what!!!! She was sooo easy
**Video ends**
**rushes to the comment section**
CyNtHiA wAs So EaSy
Classy Fish so you liek mudkipz?
Classy Fish Mudkip vs Cynthia's Restore potions
Of course....
a hacker a mod creaer cheater
jk
Lance was harder
Yes someone else who thinks so! I totally murdered her and ohko'ed most of her pokémon and I'm just ???
IDK if it was because I spent a really long time grinding because I didn't think I was ready... And it turns out I ohko'ed almost all of the elite four...
-seriously I rekt them, ohko'ed first 3, had a little difficulty with the last guy because of the typing, and Cynthia was a walk in the park-
I feel like it is important to point out that despite the low levels of Lance's pokemon, in HGSS you feel underlevel ALL THE TIME. I had to grind often in the game to come even close to beating his 3 dragonites
Agreed on the first part; the level curve wasn’t improved from GSC at all. Then again, Ampharos and Lapras make a good sweeping combo that’s only seen in Johto, so it’s not bad at low levels. I won with most of my Pokemon at level 35. Only my Ampharos and Dragonair were at 40.
My whole time playing in sinnoh I NEVER got to Cynthia
And when i did i failed right away 😅
Glad there's some Gen 5 love. That's a really underrated group of games, and were really enjoyable
True
best gen ever.
Gen V is the best
Right? It has some of the most unique and interesting Pokemon out there! Excadrill, Volcarona, Eelektross, Klinklang, Reuniclus, Serperior... So many battle strategies and cool designs!
SO good!
+Jack Carroll Imo gen 4 (sinnoh) got way too much attention than it really deserved
Gary's. Freaking. Alakazam.
Mr. Green Banana Gary was a joke. I was only troubled by his Arcanine who could tank my Snorlax's Earthquake, but ofc I took it down with Hydro Cannon.
X accuracy and horn drill. One pp up and you beat his whole team with one Pokémon.....
It’s ok Mr. Green Banana, I feel you on that alakazam. Fucker was a bitch to deal with back when we didn’t all know Pokémon like it was a goddamn school subject.
Alakazam was a joke but the rest were kinda tough.
@@boxiannn try playing Red version.
I didn’t wanna grind for dp so I had level 45s for Cynthia 😂. Took me 22 resets tho
yeah 20 levels under someone would make it a challenge
The part where blues raticate died made me laugh.
He probably put it in the PC.
uuh, lance doesn't have a kingdra because it would be impossible to beat.
Clair's was already bad enough
Cynthia is bae
cynthia is best waifu
+Typhlosion yep
+Chubba Chameleon he is right he is not best but a very good one
cynthia is best waifu.
true that
7:25
Ground weakness? Well... She also has a pokemon that has no weakness...
Milotic and gastrodon: Are we a joke to you?
They don’t resist Ground.
@@jeffreygao3956 water is super effective against ground
That’s true.
@@johnbailey5835 he is talking about pokemon who is strong defensively against ground type moves, and none of the pokemon you mentioned resist ground type lmao
I had so much trouble with Iris UNTIL I taught my Samurott ice beam. Then it was pretty easy. But seriously, facing Iris unprepared is no joke.
My Zappos beated cynthia’s lucario but lost to her garchomp
Gen 7
Fans: "Please Don't make another Diantha"
Game Freak: "mhm" - 2017
ElevenALT But... But you’re the champion in Sun and Moon.
But, there is no champion in Su/Mo
Power of L But you literally become the champion. You are the champion.
ur the first champion, man then alola must either be very new or very hard to other trainers.
ElevenALT He was a little easier than Iris imo
/sigh/ Cynthia kicked my ass so much times ;-;
DAMN YOU LUCARIO AND GARCHOMP!!!
But I beat Diantha with only one Pokémon...she was WAAAAAAAAAAAY too easy XD
+Sakura Haruno I swept the entire Elite 4 and Diantha with just one pokemon in my party. The game provides no challenge
I beat Cynthia on my 2nd or 3rd try, but my first go was a massive fail.
She beat me 4/0 on my first try.
But yea, Cynthia was the hardest by far in dp.
+Sakura Haruno i beat diantha with a half health greninja and a 30 hp blaziken -_-
You guys finally made a video together I was waiting for this moment
It’s always fun to look back at old videos, because now with hindsight, we can put Kukui at 2 and move everyone except Cynthia down one... and Leon I guess...
Remember that the EXP share is permanent in Swish onwards so maybe not Leon. Geeta may well be able to rival Trace as the weakest.
"diantha"
me: "WHAT"
"jk"
me: phew be was kidding XD
he*
That was the exact same thing I said at the moment
Jacob Aviles lel gg
I hope they make a Diamond and Pearl remake, it be awesome to fight Cynthia's Garchomp if it could mega evolve.
Eeh, not really. Mega Garchomp's not as good thanks to it's lost speed. Infernape is naturally faster than it.
Yeah i also hope that will happen one day
Brook Skeleton don't give me nightmares
would be much tougher if they gave her mega lucario instead
It'd be cooler if she got a different Mega. Kryppuk maybe as she is the only NPC trainer (I think) who uses that Pokémon in the games.
Lance is more like a flying type user than a dragon type user
Mettaton: Who needs arms with legs like these?
Lance: **sends out 3 dragonites** Who needs one when I have three?
BLUE EYES WHITE ULTIMATE (i feel like i said that wrong...its been years since i retired...)
Wow ash was traveling with the champion Iris
S Z Yeah
Cynthia's battle isn't the only thing that she made hard.
(lenny face)
You pervert.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS ELESA?
I like it when you guys collab
Nice touch at 5:41. That Raticate definitely died lol
Cynthia legit made me cry. Took me a week to beat her. She a bad bitch.
The rematch with Steven gets pretty hardcore(in ORAS) if you're unprepared
Not if you have Primal Groudon on your team
CringeFire9 yea but thats lame
DONT YOU DARE CALL HI-
My Level 100 Blaziken and equally Level 100 Rhyperior: HELO
You can't be the pokemon champion without *spaming full restores!*
I've been doing a play through of platinum so I could beat the hardest trainer of all time. NOW YOUR TELLING ME SHE GOT NERFED FROM DIAMOND AND PEARL?!?!?
Do_Not_Disturb_The_Batz Yep, she was so fucking hard for me as Diamond was my first Pokémon game ever XD had to resort to Dialga
@@beep37 don't use your example of your first games for the hardest trainers like mine were Black and White excluding them Emerald was hardest
@@trent800 Uhhhh, she's notoriously difficult and it was my first game of Pokemón that I'd ever played...
Why are you so offended by it? Lol
She didn't really get nerfed in Platinum. Even when you account for the reduction in levels, she remains the toughest. I thought I had a pretty decent lineup with Houndoom, Gengar, Magnezone, Togekiss, Garchomp, and Empoleon, all Levels 57-59, and I did pay some attention to EV training (well, about as much as you can for an in-game team which is not much attention at all), but I still ended up losing 4 Pokemon (only Empoleon and Houndoom survived) partly due to critical hits and switch-outs. I think everyone is just grateful that her Togekiss in Platinum had Hustle and not Serene Grace.
YAY IRIS GOT RECOGNIZED AS A POWERFUL CHAMPION
yay
Yas!
That haxorus gives me nightmares
She is in my opinion the best champion and has the best theme.
eh her haxarous was the only problem lmao but the rest of the team was cake
The strongest champion....
Whitney’s Miltank And A level 5 snivy
Snivy?
Diantha might have actually been hard if XY's exp share wasn't super overpowered. They changed it in gen 7 so you aren't 20 levels above everything. Im really sad that Diantha is so weak considering that she uses my favorite pokemon.
Why'd you make me remember the fact in earlier gens Exp. Share was an item...
Diamond and Pearl Remakes, anyone?
RobinHood ! Ü
RobinHood ! Yes
(•U•)/ 👍
With the old exp share back 👍
I hope cynthia will come back in sun and moon
Yess! She really does! Hopefully even harder to make a better challenge!
I still remember that one house in Black & White!
I hope so!! She could meet you as a surprise in the "battle frontier" and battle you!! I would LOVE to see her 3D Sprite!!
She should get a full lvl 100 pokemon team in a fight similar to red's in ss/hg
I hope the post game allows you to fight all the champions and gym leaders. the gym leader/champion could come to alola to have a holiday or something and you fight them then
I'm already expecting Iris being here....
She crushed my team for like 9 tries
Which made me love her
Whenever someone argues X and Y was so easy because of the exp share, I think it's stupid. You can turn it off.
So? The exp share still makes it easy. U can make every game hard if you want.
But for some teason you cant unequip those FUCKING SKATES
I know you can use the d-pad, but I just naturally use the circle pad
Those goddamn skates make the game way harder, i can barely navigate, let alone dodge annoying trainers
The gym leaders are also somewhat easy because a lot of their Pokémon only has 3 moves
X and Y is extremely easy.
Take exp. share off, but yeah, It was my second Pokemon game next to B2W2 and even I didnt have a single blackout
Spuster ツ I had it off and I still beat the champion in one try.
Anakin Skywalker ikr
I couldn't get through Mirror Cave but the battles were easy
hahaha x and y is so easy (except for Wikstrom and his Aegislash with that scumbag king's shield)
I'm on 2.Who is betting Cynthia is number 1?
EDIT:KNEW ITTTTT
8:15 WAIT THAT FOOTAGE IS FROM ABDALLAH SMASH
Honestly,getting through the Elite Four just to battle Professor Kukui is too much hard work.
EDIT:Not to mention he uses the FULL EVOLVED FORM OF THE STARTER THAT IS STRONGER THAN YOUR STARTER YOU PICKED
Frisk Dreemurr Aura said that he hopes the next Champion isn't Diantha...... whoops.
Mister Gamer we all hope we don't have another Cynthia after Kukui
Frisk Dreemurr you have to supposedly defend your Champion name, but the challengers do not have Pokemon over level 65. So there's that.
That moment when you beat Cynthia with an entire team of level 50 Pokemon
Which never happen😂
Viviul Patil I actually did it, took some cheesy strats, but I did it
@@grimhunter4648 😊👍
I agree that it’s possible, seeing as how I had to grind my team in Pearl recently to level 50 each just to beat the entire league.
Diamond was my first Pokémon game, so Cynthia was my first champion.
That battle was awful, but it also made me a much better trainer far quicker than I would have been otherwise.
Ik red isnt a champion and no he wasnt very difficult but red impacted me a lot. I was just told to go there after gary and then after 10 minutes in this mountain I found a protagonist. the protagonist you just played in red, blue, yellow. And then bam a level 83 pikachu pops up and destroys my traded lapras with one move. I still won but damn the shock i had from seeing him
TheGung-HoGamer I would argue that Red, while maybe not the hardest battle, is probably the most memorable. Plus how can you not like Red? I mean, he was literally you!
It was like fighting your past self and my gawd he have those lvl. 80+ Kanto Starter Pokemons and a lapras and snorlax
If I would argue, Red is a champion. Why do they share with Lance's theme? Why does he had that some kind of badge on his chest as a champion? Yeah, if Red has his own theme, your right that he's not a champion. But we can't complain to it, bro.
Red is not the champion in Gold/Silver/Crystal
His trainer class is
Pokemon Trainer
Marcia Silva well, HE doesn't want the title being "Former Kanto Champion" or "Kanto Champion", but you still fight him AS a champion, understand? P.S.: Titles doesn't mean a champion.
I feel like people who say diantha is hard without an Exp share haven't played the older games
Here's how I would rank the champions from easiest to hardest
9. Diantha- With or without the exp share, her team is easy. You are given a mega lucario, and, if you were early, a mega blaziken with speed boost, add in a Charizard and a greninja...
8. Wallace- From Pokemon emerald, wallace only used water types... He was easy too
7. Lance- 2 words. Ice. Types.
6. N-(simply because ghetsis was 100x harder)
5. Iris- she was actually a decent challenge because of her movepool
4. Steven- his Pokemon were bulky, high leveled, well rounded champion overall
3. Blue/Gary- this battle took me 10+ tries (glitchless ofc) -his types are very well rounded
2.Kukui- Lowkey a lot of people sleep on him, he's hard! (I think I spelled his name wrong)
1.Cynthia- the God of champions. She made garchomp look like some legendary Pokemon, spiritomb is a bitch, even in B&W, and just everything about her was a challenge
Welp, RIP Alder
Well put.
Dang, you forgot Alder
Well if you count him then Red is harder than all of them
Where's Alder?
The only way I was able to level up “quickly” to prepare for the sinnoh elite four and Cynthia is grinding one Pokémon holding the exp share at a time at victory road.
Kukui and Leon would be on this list now. They had very well balanced teams.
Maybe not Leon though. The Exp. Share is permanent in Swish.
i knew Cynthia would be number
can you finish your
IDK can
gohant 123 Wow! I didn't know that Cynthia would be a number!
gohant 123 thanks for the
Your comment is really
Omfg Cynthia was practically Impossible
Same with Iris
Diantha was sooooo easy
you know what's funny is that they made her worse in gen 5 I heard rumors about something to do with dark void on her spiritomb or something like that like seriously did she NEED any more reasons to make trainers struggle
Garchomp countered your legendary and starter, literally most op pokemon in game at that time.
Cynthia had way higher levels in Gen 5. Her Garchomp was Level 82 I think
Yo you challenged Steven with a Mangriff? 😂
Madlad
I actually found it alright fighting Cynthia, for some reason Lance messed me up
I believe lance needs more discussion because damn HGSS was ridiculously tough in that rematch for starters rematch elite 4 members were lvl 58-66 but lance was 68-75 sure lance didn’t have the setup Pokemon like iris (although a dragon dancing gyrados will ruin your life) his team is a nightmare a garchomp and Salamance to grind you down to a point of little hope a bulky altaria that will end you if you have no ice typing and of course the meteoring dragonite sure this is a rematch but however this is the only real way to train for red so it’s basically you sweep will-karen then you get to lance then you have to really put to thought how you’re going to beat him because salamance and garchomp are fast to a point where your Pokémon with ice type moves are wiped before your eyes so I don’t think it makes him the hardest champion but it really puts him higher on the list
Wookie Commander 4 words... Lugia with ice beam
He isnt that strong
Cynthia is obvious
TheAuraGuardian: I hope for gen 7 we get a champion that isn’t diantha
Gen 7:
My two favourite UA-camrs on 1 video : )
wen u battle cynthia and u see that GARCHOOOMPPP!
What, the Garchomp my Milotic completely shut down thanks to the burn he got from Flint's Flareon earlier?
yes dat garchomp
Glaceon and Ice Beam say "Hello!"
+Prudence Halliwell not pre game they dont
Jasmine Y How so? You get can get Eevee pretty early in the game and it can evolve before you reach the 7th Gym....
I beat platinum back in like 2 years ago, I still remember that fucking garchomp made me wanted to throw away my DS
not to mention I fail to beat her in diamond for 5 times, all fail at garchomp
It took me over 10 to take out 4 Pokemon. AND STILL LOOSE TO THAT FUCKING LUCARIO! I never even got to see her Milotic.
+TheRagingInfernape Pokemon, MMORPGs and more i was underleveld by 6 level at the elite foure and it was anoying becuse it feels like you did not get any exp
Her gastrodon was worse, seriously it used muddy water SO MANY FUCKING TIIMES, I couldn't even hit anything after three hits of it
None of your fucking business lol
I finally got a copy of a gen 4 game, Pokémon Pearl, and judging by me losing to the first rival battle, I know I’m gonna be screwed when it comes time to battle Cynthia
Out of the games I've played so far, (gen 5 and onwards) the hardest has to be iris from black and white 2, I had no ice moved prepared to got absolutely annihilated at least 7 times, before deciding to get lapras with ice beam, which did make it a lot easier