How I Get a Horse to Travel Straight with a Correct Headset
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Just found your channel yesterday and I can't stop watching
good! glad you like it
It gets cold at night and warm during the day here too, but don't have coughs happen. Perhaps it is a contagious virus in the area. I've been intrigued by your videos and now the second of your horses that has a cough.
Watched your 'runaway' big horse video. No doubt it was interesting. What I found amazing is during the buck, your hand is on your lariat, your other hand lost some grip of the reins, then playing it slowly, I see you somehow grabbed more and choked up again on the reins with only one hand and in a hell of a six flags ride. Who in their right mind thinks that way when riding a bronc? ha ha.
I like to back them up to the hitch post then do a front cross over to turn forward to it. Good idea to back out of the gate too. I'll start doing that too.
Backing out of the gate works hella good. Glad you like the channel, at least I think you like it but whatever. I love your handle. Those little coughs are really common, most people go to the vet and get a steroid to kill the cough but I like to let the immune system deal with it if its not a race horse. Coughs are OK, my kid has one right now. Shortening my rein. I rode saddle brooks for a living for a few years. I wasn't a world beater but I could pay the bills on it. Bill Etbouer showed me how to do that. As far as fore thinking, Iv been on a lot of buckers, that's why I limp. Cheers.
Always good stuff bro
thank you
I just did a clinic where we spent most of the time doing this. It was a game changer for my pony. He holds his shoulders up so much better and travels straighter now. No more babysitting and his head is just where I want it.
its amazing what a simple exercise can do.
Good stuff!
Thank you.
This is exactly what I needed to hear. I started doing this intuitively and this jus solidified it for me.😊
Cool. Im glad to hear that.
Another great video that covers so much based on one topic or question. All exercises and maneuvers are inner connected that help to make the “good n broke” horse we all desire. Thank you so much for these helpful insights.
I am so pleased that you enjoyed it, thank you
Do you have a video or advice for barn sour or buddy sour horses?
@@christophertorres4170 no but I can do one.
Thanks for answering my straightness question!
you bet it was a good one and a lot of fun.
So good !!
thank you
All interesting! Thanks!
Glad you liked it. Welcome.
Great information and a great explanation. Gonna have to sign up for the patreon. I’d love to see a similar video on collection!
I need to do a good one on collection
Please explain or do a more detailed video on Collection and frame….
I’m having a hard time seeing when this colt is out of balance in the video….. I know you can sure feel it ; I’ve seen some videos of horses that tend to trip. Could you explain the different circumstances that would cause them to trip or fall over in more detail?
Ps:
Love family life in background
Love hearing family life in the background..,
I just found your channel. It is quite interesting. I don't know much about horses. My grandson is a roper. He is on his third horse. The first two are too slow for him now. His current mare started acting up about a month after he got her. He has a leased horse that he us using now until they can figure out if the mare can be fixed or goes to the xxxx pen.
rope horses, ace them till they are ten, but them till they die.
Been watching for a while and really enjoy the content. I don't post comments often, but I have got to ask where in the country are you at that it is almost freezing at night? I think it made it to 80 last night here in the south.
Im in Fallon Nevada. It gets close to freezing at night sometimes until June. DOnt forget we make a bunch of theses videos at once and then drizzle them out so without watching I can't say when this was made but it dang sure wasn't in July or August. All of July it was to hot to sleep at night. Glad you like the videos and thanks for commenting
Ok, team America;
I see now…. Beautiful progress
Good sense with gate…..!
thanks
Hey Bret,
We all would really like to see how you set up your new Tack room at new place.
Good luck…. Look forward to seeing more great videos.
@@canicegarth280 OK. I will show you all what I come up with.
Hidy i have been following you for awhile.I thought your book was very good can’t wait for the next one.Two questions first did you ever rodeo any.Two your hair is it a Stetson if so which one.If not could I know what brand please. Thank You for your time and exuse the goofy questions.
Yes I started riding steers when I was 11 and started riding broncs when I was 14 then bareback broncs at 15, I rodeoed high school college and PRCA riding all three event until I was 21 or 22 and finally got hurt bad enough to end my career (I still limp). The hat it a Stetson "open road". Thanks for watching and thanks for the questions.
I am not a western rider but when you say you do this manoevure everytime the horse 'leans' what do you mean by leans please? leans on the bit, leans his neck to one side, or literally leans, or leans to one direction (as in doesn't go straight) ????? many thanks
Doesn't go straight, drops the shoulder
thank you @@HorsemanshipAsAnArt
Just to clarify. You bend them towards the lean?
yes
Is there a way to start this on the ground in hand? I have a long yearling that I dont plan to start under saddle until she is 3.
sort of, lunging on a very short line can be very similar. Whenever the horse leans the handler can take a step back and pull the horse around while using a flag or whip to drive the hind quarters.
I was watching a friend ground work a colt today and figured out how to do a video of this exercise on the ground.
I would think a lot of being able to carry his head lower has to do with overall fitness and building up muscles. Is this horse being trained for any specific discipline?
You are right about that for sure, fitness has a big role. He will be a reined cow horse, probably level 1 or non pro.
Very helpful. My horse is pretty good at this at a walk however, at the trot, i have a hard time getting him to bend and he gets bracy and he takes over to another direction. Any suggestions?
Just keep going and use your inside leg as much as you can. Dont worry if it gets a little ugly, it will get pretty and no one is watching right now.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt thank you for the feedback. I think too I’m gonna worry less about neck rein and using more direct rein like you explained. I’ll probably watch this video about 10 more times.
@@Inca1122 Bret's dead on. Time is your ally. Some horses have less frame up when they ran loose and and it takes them some time to build the muscle structure to get comfortable with a framed-up carriage. Just keep the course and if it takes longer both your and your horse will understand it better.
@@carlbrown6799 Thank you for sharing that. I am going to keep at it and hope i can get that softness.
@@Inca1122 yes trying to incorporate the neck rein to early can really foul the whole thing up. I stay with just one rein for a long time until that head followed my hand perfectly at any any speed without resistance.
That's pretty much the foundation of how we learned to help horses with flexion and carry from the masters - so this guy seems to know what he's doing - also seems to have a pretty constructive partnership with the horse in terms of recognizing how the horse is doing and when/what/how much work is appropriate. This is the first I've seen of this guy's work so I'll have to watch some more but I'd like to understand more about his work and theories on bridals/bits versus bosal rigs. Personally, I'm one that has moved toward the bosal on the grounds of putting myself in the horse's shoes and probably objecting to some damn human sticking a bunch of hardware in my mouth.
Brett, in my humble opinion, knows what he is doing. He is well read, grew up in the tail end of the Will James era of "snapping broncs" and getting them on the payroll quickly, same as I. One thing we learned was if you were going to last a long time in the training business and ride really nice horses, you needed to figure better and safer ways for both you and your horse. Search his videos. He has stuff on bits, bosals, etc. One thing I always kept in mind is that every bit is a leverage bit (you pull on it) except the spade and its various arrangements. They are "touch bits or signal bits" and for me it takes me a few years to get a horse straight up in a bridle like that. If you have the time to make the snaffle and bosal signal bits, then it makes no difference which you use because it is an "ask, release, ask, release" training process which goes against the way a horse normally reacts to pressure. i.e. walk into a tie stall with a green horse and push on him with your body. Does he move over? No, he pushes back on you. The pull method with the bridle works the same way. If you don't want to learn to say please and thank you, than you're in for the pulling contest and the frustration that goes with it for both you and the horse. Anyhow, go back and look for his earlier video's. You will enjoy them whether you already know it or don't.
Thank you for the kind words, I hope you like some of the other videos we have made. A few are about hackamores and how they work ( Im from the west coast so a Bosal is called a hackamore) but I need to do more. In my mind the hackamore is no more or less aggressive/assertive than a bit in principle, some are made hard and rowdy some are made soft, they just put pressure in a different place on the horse. I know a lot of people teach that a bit is a pain compliance tool and a hackamore is not but that is nothing more than turning a blind eye to the facts. Thank you again for the comment and if you have anything specific you would like to see in a video I am like a good bar band and take requests.
@@carlbrown6799 thank you. That means a lot to me.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Agree that a hackamore is a levered tool - maybe meaner leverage even. In that sense, I believe, the Bosal is different. I'd kinda classify the Hack as a tool for people to use so they can say they ain't puttin anything in the horse's mouth. The Bosal is for folks who just will not put stuff in the horse's mouth and think maybe leverage is over-rated .
What I determined about stuff like this is kinda like I've concluded on abortion. To each their own until I put myself in the shoes of the kid who's gettin aborted...or in the shoes of the horsey that's gettin all that stuff shoved into its mouth. All that said, I do in fact get it - the horse has maybe 8X on us in terms of weight so leverage probably has to figure in there somewhere unless your horse is named Jesus H. Christ.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt 1 thing I haven't seen on a video is striking the lead. I've had lots of folks come to me saying that their horse can't take the right/left lead. I think that most folks just don't take time to study how a horse has to move, the position he needs to put his body into to balance himself and the rider, etc. so they end up loping in the wrong lead or in some type of cross-fire gait. They need to know that if you put a horse's butt in behind his lead leg and he doesn't strike the lead he will fall down, just like turn one into his leaning side. I think you could benefit a lot of folks with that.
Is this fellow related to Randy Davis out of Barnsdall OK?
Nope but I think I met him once years ago I was in that part of the world. I could be wrong though its a common last name. As it where My father had only one son and his Father had only one clear back to before they left Wales so I have no relations named Davis.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Fair enough
Ok but how come you go in direction of lean and not opposite of lean?
They have to balance or else they fall down. ITs a trial by fire way of thinking.lol
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Just stop, reminisce a bit and think how many trials we had when we banked the fire incorrectly. *LOL*
@@carlbrown6799 No kidding and I love how you phrased that. Very well put.
I noticed you do not have a get-sown on that setup. I have often wondered of the get-down may cause off balance of the bridle. What do you think?
Well, I'm not Bret, but I personally don't use a full length mecate with a bit. I use a 10 foot piece of rope tied to slobber straps like you would a mecate. It works the same (depending on the material), just doesn't have a lead rope hanging off the side. If I don't have a traditional bosalito and get down on the horse such as when riding in a snaffle, I'll toss a rope halter and lead in my saddlebags. It takes up no room and I'd much rather the pull be on a halter than their mouth if I tie or lead them. Having the lead end hanging off the left side of their bit but not the right, you're correct, that does change the weight and balance and for the previous mentioned reason and because I like everything balanced, I don't use a full length mecate on a bit.
I dont think it does really. I have it set up that way because the lead line is a pain when you are trying to ride 10-15 head a day, just one more thing to do and if I get down its cuz Im done. I call that set up "sport reins".
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt It can be a pain. I usually don't keep a lead on the horse unless it's one that might throw me or doesn't stand ground tied and I'll be getting down to work quite a bit. It might not unbalance it too bad for most horses, but one mare I had it on told me she did not like it one bit. She kept drifting left, so I swapped it around then she kept drifting right. I took it off and put a pair of sport reins on and she quit drifting and headed straight. It may not be enough for most horses, but that mare is real sensitive, so I couldn't use it on her. I've ridden it on another couple horses and it didn't seem to bother them, but I just prefer equal weight on each side. I feel like it makes each little signal mean a bit more if it's all balanced.
@@kristencora I can see some horses being bothered by it.
Why do you want his head low?
One reason is because when his head is low he engages the muscles in his back and uses himself more. If his head is way up high in the air, he's more apt to ignore you and he also hollows his back which can make the saddle bridge if it doesn't have quite enough rock and can sore him and work his muscles wrong. Now just because is head is low doesn't mean he's in collection and rounding his back, but if his head is flung high (not the Spanish mustang vaquero horse head set, but other high headsets) it means he's for sure not.
So he can see where he is going and move balanced. Head up is a hollow back and that will cripple a horse in the long run.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Forgot to mention that too. I see way too many horses with their heads up high. In my area a lot of folks drive horses and crank their heads up as high as they'll go with over checks. Those horses don't last. They don't understand saddle either.
@@kristencora no they get sore real fast with that higher head set. I have heard a lot of people say "let them travel natural " the thing is that frame is not natural because us being on there back is not natural so an uneducated horse travels with the head to high because it does not know how to carry the rider.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt So we're not talking nose to the ground kind of head down here. Thanks for the clarification.