Legio Custodes vs Iron Warriors - Horus Heresy (Battle Report)
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2024
- With No Retreat IV done and dusted, we had guest Nik Hutty from England in the studio with his amazing Legio Custodes to challenge the Iron Warriors led by Captain Pardo. Who will be Victorious?
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// ARMY LISTS BELOW \\
Allegiance: Loyalist
Legio Custodes
HQ: +
Custodes Tribune [305Pts]
. Custodes Tribune: Archaeotech Pistol, Warlord
. . Meridian Swords
Elites: +
Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought [250Pts]: 2x Lastrum Storm Bolter
. Achillus Dreadspear with In-built Corvae Las-Pulser
Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought [250Pts]: 2x Lastrum Storm Bolter
. Achillus Dreadspear with In-built Corvae Las-Pulser
Troops: +
Custodian Guard Squad [195Pts]
. Custodian Guard w/ Guardian Axe
. 3x Custodian Guard w/ Guardian Spear: 3x Guardian Spear
Custodian Guard Squad [195Pts]
. Custodian Guard w/ Guardian Axe
. 3x Custodian Guard w/ Guardian Spear: 3x Guardian Spear
Custodian Guard Squad [195Pts]
. Custodian Guard w/ Guardian Axe
. 3x Custodian Guard w/ Guardian Spear: 3x Guardian Spear
Sentinel Guard Squad [195Pts]
. 4x Sentinel Guard w/ Sentinel Warblade & Shield: 4x Praesidium Shield, 4x Sentinel Warblade
Sentinel Guard Squad [195Pts]
. 4x Sentinel Guard w/ Sentinel Warblade & Shield: 4x Praesidium Shield, 4x Sentinel Warblade
Fast Attack: +
Custodian Venatari Squad [300Pts]
. 4x Venatari w/ Kinetic Destoyer and Tarsus Buckler: 4x Kinetic Destoyer, 4x Tarsus Buckler
Pallas Attack Speeder Squadron [60Pts]
. Pallas with Twin-Linked Arachnus Blaze Cannon
Heavy Support: +
Caladius Grav-Tank [225Pts]: Turret Mounted Illastus Accelerator Cannon
Caladius Grav-Tank [225Pts]: Turret Mounted Illastus Accelerator Cannon
Telemon Heavy Dreadnought [400Pts]: Arachnus Storm Cannon
. Telemon Cestus and in-built Proteus Plasma Projectors
Allegiance: Traitor
IV: Iron Warriors
Rite of War: +
The Hammer Of Olympia (IW)
HQ: +
Warsmith [180Pts]: Tyrant of the Dodekathon, Warlord
. Warsmith: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Iron Halo, Krak Grenades, Master of the Legion, Master-craft one weapon, Thunder Hammer
. . Warsmith: Cortex Controller, Servo-Arm
Elites: +
Apothecarion Detachment [55Pts]: Legiones Astartes (X)
. Apothecary: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Narthecium
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
Iron Circle Maniple [555Pts]: 4x Domitar-ferrum, Graviton Maul, Karceri Battle Shield, Shrapnel Cannon
Terminator Tartaros Squad [420Pts]: Tartaros Terminator Armour
. Land Raider Proteus Carrier: 2x Sponson Mounted Gravis Lascannon, Legiones Astartes (X), Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter
. Tartaros Sergeant w/Lightning Claws: Pair of Lightning Claws
. 4x Tartaros w/Lightning Claws: 4x Pair of Lightning Claws
Terminator Tartaros Squad [385Pts]: Tartaros Terminator Armour
. Tartaros: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
. 2x Tartaros: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. Tartaros Sergeant: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
. Tartaros Sergeant: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
Troops: +
Tactical Squad [220Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Shrapnel Bolter
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Shrapnel Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Legion Vexilla, Shrapnel Bolter
. Rhino Transport: Multi-Melta, Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Bolter
Tactical Squad [220Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Shrapnel Bolter
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Shrapnel Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Legion Vexilla, Shrapnel Bolter
. Rhino Transport: Multi-Melta, Smoke Launchers, Twin-linked Bolter
Tactical Squad [220Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Shrapnel Bolter
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Shrapnel Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Legion Vexilla, Shrapnel Bolter
Heavy Support: +
Iron Havocs [245Pts]: Autocannon, Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, 9x Iron Havoc, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
. Iron Havoc Sgt: Artificer Armour
Kratos Squadron [400Pts]
. Kratos: 2x Lascannons, Co-axial Mounted Autocannon, Flare Shield, Hull (Front, Right/Left) Mounted Lascannons, Melta Blast-Gun, Smoke Launchers
Leviathan Dreadnought Talon [315Pts]
. Leviathan: Atomantic Deflector, Cyclonic Melta Lance, Leviathan Siege Drill, Phosphex Discharger
. . 2x Heavy Flamers: 2x Heavy Flamer
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Remember, against Nemesis units Custodes will never hit on worse than a 4+ unless it's a Primarch.
Yeah Nik forgot I that! Lucky Pardo 😆
@@SNBattleReports cracking game though nice one
Nice to see the Heesy content. We do find that we have better games when you place some line-of-sight blocking terrain in the middle of the board, when the whole center of the table is visible and the deployment zones are heavily populated with terrain it vastly favors shooting armies, but that's just what we do.
Glad to hear your event went well!
Thanks boss we still have had loads of close games but yeah might help but not a fan of it to be hoe at unless it looks nice
Desperately watching this in the hope it will get me through a game against Custodes coming up soon. As always, SN is invaluable when it comes to Heresy
Thank you champ!
Excellent. Really love your heresy content. Also you guys make the best battlefields. Really helps the immersion of the game and makes long videos a joy to watch.
Aww thanks very much
I like the paintjob of the custodes army! Awesome
Thanks Champ ❤️
So if the Custodes player flubs all his roles and the Iron Warrior ridiculously spikes his dice roles then maybe the Iron Warrior will win. Crazy
😂 🔥
As a Custodes player, I just simply skip my shooting phase as playing against Space Marines with return fire is not worth shooting at them as you'll just lose more models of your own
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Remember guys, Armourbane on melta weapons against Dreadnought targets lets you re-roll wound rolls!
Yeah didn’t we do that? If we didn’t we prob were not in half range
Like few others I would prefer Custodes having default inv 5+ save (4+ with the shield) and maybe one tiny bit less attacks. Apart from that I would much rather if they used less special rules. I do like the exotic weapons they bring to the table so but with all the Nemesis units it gets a bit much for me.
Apart from that I really liked this report, as always high quality content!
Well done! You folks consistently make some of the best army showcases of any batrep channel. Since that's my favorite part, I appreciate it greatly
Aww thanks! Glad you like it 🥰
@@SNBattleReports#ironwithin
Great battle report guys. Great game by both, Pardo did a great job nullifying the custodes given how strong they are this edition.
Thanks very much ♥️
Mr Pardo was so certain about the movement reaction to shooting that I was honestly thinking I’d been missing a trick on that! 😂
Great battle report 👍
Hahaha that’s what 6 games of ZM in two weeks does to you 😂
GREAT GAME! Both armies look lovely, but those Custodes really stood out. Well done!
Thank you kindly!
Heresy is all I’ll watch now, such a visual feast!
Yeah it’s so visually good how it should actually look
Always interested in seeing more custodes game. Can't wait
Enjoy!
two well painted armies facing across from each other on a great battlefield, battling for the fate of the galaxy.. glorious HH game
Thanks Captain
Great game and looks amazing on the table!
Niks a great guy and fun opponent, hopefully get a chance for some revenge at the next HH NR!
Fingers crossed!
Excellent, will watch tonight
Hope you enjoy!
I´ve been watching your videos and i must say:
1.- very very fun to watch.
2.- Beautiful armies
3.- Pardo´s dice luck is legendary. lol.
@@I6N4C1O ✅ ✅ & ✅
Great game!
Thank you Mr. Pardo! Thank you, Nick!
You gave me an incredible two hours)
P.S. The only thing I wanted to say. Shrapnel Bolters does not have a Shred rule.
Yeah no idea why we were doing that wtf hahah
@@SNBattleReports Anyway, the game was fantastic. I really missed the new Horus Heresy videos. Thank you for everything you do!
I would love to learn how Nik converted those swords, the one thing stopping me from playing custodes is how silly and large their swords are.
He will answer soon
Another beautiful battlefield. Awesome job.
Thank you very much!
Love it when we get guests in
We need more
@@SNBattleReports wish I could could come myself but alas apart from watching you guys and odd painting a mini I don’t get much time to play, also don’t think my mrs would be fond of idea of a impromptu holiday
Cataphractii and Tartaros are not stubborn, they are both relentless and inexorable. Plus heavy for Cataphractii.
Some Legion specific Terminators are stubborn.
Yeah we mention that
sorry must have missed that@@SNBattleReports
I just saw your cabinets, and I have lots like that myself, but where did you get the extra shelves? As mine only have 3 shelves on them.
It’s some cut Perspex with some components I bought from the hardware store
Unless I missed something but how the shrapnel bolters have shred?
Where we found shred??
Unless I’m being blind I swore there were re rolls on the to wounds from them? My mind maybe playing tricks lol
@@derryburns8968 no no you are right 😂 wtf
Custodes should have been hitting on 4s against the praetor
How so? Praetor is WS 6, Custodian Guard are WS 5
Praetor is a nemesis unit, custodes never hit on worse than 4s against those
@@James-ws3tiand did he took the extra buff into account, I think he missed a few bonus nemesis attacks. from time to time.
Yeah Nik forgot that sadly or thankfully for Pardo 😂
Awesome Video, what are the bases for the Iron warriors? Are they purchased separately or homemade ?
Homemade buddy with cork
I really don't like the idea of letting damage spill over from the challenge, challenges are already an obnoxious mechanic that punishes people who don't kit out for them, who don't have legion specific weapon upgrades that make it easier to fight a challenge (example: Falax Blades vs any normal power weapon, for a tiny difference of 5 points you will always kill an equivalent enemy sarge). Since a better fighter can always force the challenge you get a win-win situation, you either stop any enemy model from attacking, or you kill the highest Ld model, with overkill going into morale check. I see why you would think allowing damage overspill is good, but that just punishes another player where they should have been rewarded for outplaying their opponent. If you pin a lone smash character and beat him up in an "unfair" challenge, you did something right, and your opponent made mistakes and should not be given an advantage for it.
See I think the complete opposite I think challengers are far to easy to stop good fighters and characters. There is also so much stubborn, inexorable and fearless now that is just doesn’t do anything to get the wounds that would have spilled over that one wound model into combat resolution. Same in ZM with the reaction
It might be the Stockholm syndrome talking but I'll always have a soft spot for challenges from the 6E CSM codex. Everyone had to challenge which made it really funny when the cultist leader boldly challenged characters he had no chance against. Granted one time he became a demon prince from a crazy stretch of luck that let him kill a space marine sergeant
I dont like that it really hurts big characters and punishes some armies way worse than others. The demons have a big monster that is a character so it can get challenge locked and is basically unplayable because of it. Or making a praetor kill one imperialis militia sergeant while the discipline master keeps the squads morale up.
These iron warriors are probably the best I've seen. How are they painted?
Painted by a commission painter so can’t help much 😆
Fantastic game and two beautiful army's never mind the battle field 😎🤟
Thanks very much glad you enjoyed it
why didn't the tribune get to add his initiative when trying to cut down the terminators?
Becuase it was more than one unit in combat he was trying to cut down
@@SNBattleReports that is something I've totally missed before. Good to know
Finally Hammer of Olympia again!
🙌🏽
Great video!
Thanks 😊
Hi, an Iron warrior here too xD, tell me, why do you reroll wounds for shrapnell bolters?
Because we are stupid and made a mistake 😆
oh no man, dont say that! mistakes are mistakes!@@SNBattleReports
Hey guys, my friend is running a loyalist IW force too but we can’t find Iron Havocs in the codex? What do they come under?
They are in the extra pdf. Tell him to search for Legacies of The Age of Darkness and he will find the pdf
I might have misunderstood but it sounded like at around 1:05:30 or so when he charged your tacs, you overwatched and he failed the pinning test but you said his guys would make it in? For future reference, if I am correct in that interpretation, pinning a charging unit during overwatch causes the charge to fail.
You are correct but I don’t think he got pinned as he is stubborn and the roll wasn’t enough
@SNBattleReports on wow, thanks for the reply! As someone who just got into the hobby and also plays loyalist iron warriors in thoroughly enjoying your battle reports! I'm picking up a kraitos because of you haha.
@SNBattleReports ah okay yeah i rewatched again and catch it this time. I thought the 9 was him failing the leadership test. Whoops!
i love heresy
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Absolutely wonderful game! ❤😊
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Where is the mat from?
Pworks
Im pretty sure that in close combat custodes can never hit on anything worse than a 4+...
Correct vs nemesis units
@@SNBattleReports isnt the unit with the praetor a nemesis unit?
@@globoxx1625 yes sir
Oh ok cus i was wondering why they were hitting the praetor on 5's and not 4's
"Telamon is the lynchpin" Never words you wanna here. THe telemon is a FUN unit, but it's also the worst one in the entire list. No brutal. I call mine the 400 point brick of sadness :D.
I think it’s great 😆
Golden Bois ❤❤❤
Another tough day for Custodes, lol. They have just such a rough time against a shooting army.
Regarding Line units, have you tried playing with or against a Knight Household list yet? With so many Armigers that count as Line, they can be great in scoring.
Yeah I’m Not a fan of full knight lists though 😔 but yes so good!
Need more los blocking terrain.
Custodes should have a 5++ as basic but to balance it drop their attacks by 1. Nemesis is such a finicky rule, why not just preferred enemy against HQ, Elites and Primarchs?
Shut up and get back in your cage!
why can your rhino's move full distance and fire at regular BS? :)
You can still fire one gun at full Bs
Terminators have inexorable
You don't take ld penalty apart from fear 🙂
Your unit should have stayed there
Thanks for the bat rep 😉
Yeah we catch that a bit later on
The SN own artificer Armour rules is totally unnecessary,
Sounds pretty balanced to me
Well we have 15+ worldwide events using them now so I think many people are liking them
Artificer Armour is pretty aids for the cost let's be real
Yup, that’s why we paid the 10 points.
I'd say completely forbidding tanking shots with characters would be even better.@@SNBattleReports
So standard lighting claws give plus two for two? Are you sure about that
Yeah so each Lightning claw gives you one extra attack. So two would give you two