Abercrombie & Fitch Super Shipmate Vintage Watch Restoration
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2020
- Marshall finds a sweet one on eBay, a vintage Abercrombie & Fitch Super Shipmate dating to the 1950s! The only problem is that it doesn't work. Join him as he restores this cool piece horological history.
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I love how you say that you are a rookie at this, and you even (sometimes) mess up... you state that you just messed up and go back, fix it and carry on... I love how you don't edit out your mistakes. Awesome job on the watch too... I love your channel... please continue, and I will continue tuning in. Thank you.
When I think of A&F in those days I think of two letters I've read. One was from an American soldier in 1945 writing home while he was waiting to be sent home. He requested his family member go to A&F and have them send him some swim trunks. Another was in a book by Teddy Roosevelt, where he mentions going to A&F before a safari. Amazing how things change, and not always for the better.
This is amazing. Your talents as a presenter would lend themselves to anything, never knew I would be interested in an hour long video about an old watch.
Me either. The narration is excellent. I have a couple of decent watches and NEVER wear them any longer, (and pretty sure they won't run anymore). The electrical part of my job made it wise to wear a $25, all plastic watch and even ditched that when I got a pager. I find this fascinating. Checked a few other watch channels. The editing is great and Marshall's narration is the best. Pretty sure the 55 minute runtime is very intentional.
@@denniswalsh8476 He is a professional commentator. That's why he is so polished, and it's nice to see him share his hobby like this using those skills.
you're the most talkative watchmaker i've found across youtube and i like how you narrate the whole process. subbed !
I agree, much more interesting than the watch repair channel, the student supasses the master.
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I guess everyone enjoys different things. I personally prefer mark's style because of the music he has in the background. But this channel offers more information regarding the watch. Especially in the case of this watch. Since its a rather unique brand/watch.
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You put out some fantastic vibes. I found myself smiling when the watch started running again. Great content!
Thanks for letting us in on your hobby. Your skills as a presenter, videographer, and editor lend a lot to any subject.
Fascinating and congratulations. Abercrombie's dad was from Falkirk, Scotland, just 10 miles from where I live. Cool to see you revive a watch from his company when I can gaze out my window and look across the Firth of Forth to see where the Abercrombies came from.
Here because of Magic. Know nothing about watches but can basically listen to Marshall talk about anything haha
For a guy who claims to be an amateur, you sure are amazing at this. I’m an amateur! I don’t know what the hell im doing when I crack open a watch case! But, thanks to guys like you, a LOT of mistakes, a lot of patience and trial, and I’m slowly learning. If I ever get to your level, I would be thrilled and proud.
I could listen to Marshal all day long. Congrats on being part of the UA-cam rabbit hole now. You know, when you should be working but UA-cam auto play just keeps going and now you are repairing watches.
As a mechanical engineer, the precision of a mechanical watch is insane. Came from the magic podcast and stayed for the insane work :)
@Charlie K and that watches were being made in the 1600s
Even just listening to the process is fascinating too, he's a great narrator.
And watching his videos convinced me to order a low cost but decent little "skeletal" automatic mechanical watch to enjoy and use a a tester to see if I want to go further, it's a shame most modern devices try to hide how they work and obsess over minimalism, sometimes you want *more*
@@tortron nowhere near this level of precision. but yes, clocks have been a round for a long time.
i used to be fascinated by the mechanisms in guns, particularly semi-automatic slide actuated pistols. then i remembered watches were a thing, and make fire arm engineering look crude and clunky by comparison. My grandfather was a watchmaker, im sad that he died when i was 5 years old and unable to appreciate this wonderful craft. I still have a cabinet from his old shop full of tiny parts and watch crystals. fascinating stuff.
"It's really old, dating back to the 1950s." Hey! I resemble that remark
Whoops! Sorry :) I'm old too don't worry :)
Oh dang!
Me too!
Lol, I take exception as well!
Older things are better!
I'm a mechanic... you made an excellent analogy about watches and engines etc. It is interesting to see how different regions solve the same mechanical problems...this is also true in engines. The more experience you have the more easily you notice these small differences. Nice troubleshooting technique btw, you would make a good mechanic, then again you are one...a watch mechanic !
This is the horology we are missing. Really cool watch.
I have watched hundreds of videos on watch repair, without a doubt, your videos surpass any other watch repair by a mile. You call yourself a hobbyist but in reality you are a true professional as it gets. You walk us through every aspect of watch repair in a way that we as watchers are captivated and look forward to the next videos you make with enthusiasm. God bless you, Regards Tony
A little thing i always do right after cleaning, before removing the balance i demagnetize it and check if the banking stone on the roller table comes to rest exactly between the banking pins, before the wiew is obscurred by anything and the balance is clean.
Thanks for posting. I appreciate the detailed descriptions of the process. Also appreciate that you admit to your mistakes and how you correct them. We all make them but most people don't like to admit it. Keep up the good work.
Also dont forget the classic Before/after at the end of your video, especially with hour long videos, being able to see where we came from is very exciting!
Totally! I realized when I got to the end that I didn't take any proper before shots :( That won't happen again though :)
39:50 this part was really cool. Hope you keep making videos like this!
the minute you opened the back, I said oooohh exactly like you did. i was expecting rust and water damage and then a nice shining movement appeared !
Hi Marshall. For those interested. That is an ETA 2390 17J Movement. Production 1954 to 1972
Thanks.
Been watching watch repairs for years, this popped up on my feed and I thought I’d give it a chance. I’m glad I did very well done. And also massive respect for being taught online. Keep up the good work 🙏👌
Thanks :)
Back in the day, Abercrombie & Fitch were serious outfitters, often catering to the well-heeled sportsman -- e.g., the type of place you'd go if you were in the market for an English double rifle to use on Cape Buffalo in Africa. Eddie Bauer was no nonsense too. A lot has changed since those days.
This was excellent!! I’ve watched all of Mark Lovik’s videos and couldn’t help thinking how yours is in the same outstanding style - then you mentioned him and all became clear. Excellent editing, the video is super clear, and the post-production audio track is much smoother than it would have been as a real time recording. Superb technique and a really interesting story line with thr A&F watch. Finally, in the late 1960’s I went to the ‘going out of business’ sale at A&F in Manhattan. Sorry to have seen it close - it was the go-to place if you wanted to get equipped for a safari. Please consider one on old Waltham pocket watches - have been learning on these but still can’t figure out how to remove the balance cap stones, which don’t drop out like they do with the Incabloc settings,
Thank you! I would have loved to have been able to go to their store back then, it looked like a cross between a museum and REI :)
I have a video in the works on an old pocket watch, it also has fixed jewels rather than the incabloc style settings we see now, so you’ll get to see how I handle that.
I don’t know anything about watches but knowing you from Magic the Gathering I’ll watch this every day.
What does MTG have to do with this guy/channel? I'm curious.
[Deleted] He’s a big name in the magic community. He does commentary for big events and runs a podcast called Limited Resources and has for a long time. He’s great.
@@spencersonnier1 THank you for your answer :)
[Deleted] you’re welcome
I literally just came from an MTG video and then commented to say he sounds just like Marshall Sutcliffe 😂 @spencersonnier1
I have really been enjoying watching these video's. I love watches, especially manually wound watches. I gave watch repair a go some time back but I just didn't have the patience. People don't realize how difficult it is, but I think it takes a special talent that not very many people have. It is obvious you do and I just enjoy watching work being done on these masterpieces of engineering on a much smaller scale. Thanks again, Brian.
It's amazing watching these videos because an entire hour flies by, and I didn't even notice because I was fascinated the whole time.
It's singlehandedly convinced me to get a cheap-but-decent skeletal mechanical watch just as a taster before I try to find something a bit more involved.
Mechanical movements might not be as accurate as a Quartz, but it's still like watching engineering magic, especially since you can see how it's working unlike electronics, they really seem alive in an unexplainable way
I agree. Keeping in the mistakes is amazing. That is real life and hopefully a learning experience someone else doesn't have to learn from their own mistakes. 😀
UA-cam just got real good with this channel. It is fantastic that you are talking about watches now Marshall, keep this masterpiece up!
I like how you explain certain things in every video, so new viewers aren't confused. It's very thoughtful! I've watched probably 15 hours of your videos in the last few days and I've learned a lot!
Not only is the watchmaking so interesting but the humor and commentary are priceless.
Another nicely done service, I can tell this one is an early video due to the attempted reuse of the crystal, the balance wheel left on while starting to assemble, calling the spring bars "lugs" and the problems with the seconds hand, in the end the motion works still looked to be needing some troubleshooting, can see the seconds hand sweeping yet the minutes hand remained in the same spot the entire final filming, probably that cannon pinion slipping noticed earlier in the reassembly.
All in all a decent job.
Yeah, although I'm not as critical, as I am amazed at your watchmaking abilities, I did notice the minutes hand not moving in the last views of the video. I do wonder why that would happen. Your great!
How awesome that a good cleaning and lube was all this watch needed to run well. And a new crystal. You are so good at explaining things and your enthusiasm is infectious.
I've been watching several of your videos lately, and I find them interesting and for some reason calming. This must be a slightly frustrating, but also very rewarding hobby. 😀 You narrate really well!
I agree. There is not one thing about taking apart a watch that interests me. I can't see the parts, I have not worn a watch since I carried a beeper in the 90s. I work at a computer so I always know what time it is.
In this video, I was rooting for the watch to work. I enjoy listening to the details of a watch, listening to what not to do with springs, and reading a few comments.
Awesome video right up to your decision not to clean the rust spots on the dial. My OCD clicked in, and it drove my crazy.
When you took the caseback off I pretty much did the exact same "oooooh!" you did, such a pretty movement and so clean looking. When the edges of the caseback looked a little rusty I was expecting the worst considering it was a non runner.
It appears, during the final close ups of the watch running, that the minute hand is static even while seeing the second hand doing a full 1 minute sweep. Hope I’m mistaken, you have done a cracking job on that old watch though.
I agree, it isn't driving the minute hand for some reason. The handling of the balance is asking for a cracked jewel, broken staff or distorted hairspring! I would suggest it be handled with much greater care. Levering the cock away from the bottom without easing the jewel end is very risky. The same goes for other bridges. Never just prise it right up from one end or a pivot or jewel can be damaged. The slot is just to get it moving.
Agreed. The canon pinion needed to have been tightened. The second hand is driven off the extended pivot, but the remainder of the motion works relies on the friction between the center wheel pivot and the canon pinion.
I think those rust marks are actually radium burns, it looks like there is luminous material in each lollipop hand.
I was thinking the same thing. That makes them even cooler: a memento of the cavalier early days of radioactivity.
@@DrPronghorn : Sadly, those 'cavalier early days' killed a number of women watch-hand painters.
Came here to see if anyone had commented this already 👍
This was great to watch. The whole process and narration was fantastic. I have family in Switzerland and was lucky enough to visit le musée des automates in Ste-Croix and this brought be straight back, loved to watch it!
Didn’t know Abercrombie & Fitch where that old of a company or did watches, great work and great looking watch. 👍🏻🏴
Yeah I didn't know until I got into watches either
When you mentioned the rust on the dial been there at the time the watch stop working that was the coolest thing about this whole video so amazing
I love watching Marshall fix watches ,he's really great at explaining things also
These videos are so wonderful, Marshall! Thanks for sharing your love of watches with the world
Gorgeous looking movement, i never realised Abercrombie and Fitch did watches, so i learnt something new today. Thank you for the upload
Please don't stop make video about watch.This is my first time fully watch a long video from the start to the end.That's how interesting your video are!
Love this video, very nicely finished ETA movement on this one. As for the seconds hand, I think you could send it off to receive a new tube to go around the seconds pinion.
Ahhhh! You voiced over the most satisfying sound in watch repair!
Please do more videos!
I love the few that are out so far, and they are not only entertaining, and informative, but you have a perfect speaking voice when doing the voiceovers for your videos.
Working on it :)
I'm marathoning your videos.
(You know you could of warned me that these were addictive.)
Very few know of Abercrombie & Fitch as a sporting goods store! Much has changed from those days.
I know that I am a man, because I could care less about or have I ever thought about how to build a watch. Yet I just had the most enjoyable hour watching this video. Machines fascinate me!
I'm a beginner watch maker and have learned a whole lot from your videos ..your a natural host/narrator/teacher...I learned from mark lovick too! Maybe that's why I like/understand your approach.
He's definitely had a big influence on me! Thanks for watching : )
Respect to this amazing job and good explanation
When you reattach the balance & it starts, the heartbeat is back.
Not only you have watchmaking skills, but also great teaching skills. Subscribed and will be watching upcoming uploads. You will definitely teach me something new!
"Beefy Mechanical stuff", as a guy building a 44' boat in his yard I giggled. BUT Much respect to you for being able to work on such incredibly TINY parts, amazing.
Abercrombie and Fitch also had a store at The Broadmoor Hotel in Colorado Springs. Have fond memories of my visits.
That microscope shot is awesome. I always wanted to see a macro shot of those jewels to see how they work.
As it applies to watches, the application of just the right of amount of oil is analogous to doing the same to a reciprocating engine. Under pressure, the oil creates a hydrodynamic bearing which actually behaves as a fluid bearing between the moving parts. Though we might not think so, the barrel spring actually generates the force needed to create the fluid bearing as the parts rotate. The viscosity of the watch oil/grease enables it to remain in place to do its job. Friggin' rocket science, yeah!!! I really enjoy your videos and especially your voice over narration!
As a sailor I appreciate the name of the watch. Who wouldn’t want to have a super shipmate?
While not the most exciting or flashy watches, this is easily one of my favorites to have ever been produced. Elegant design, awesome history. My current "grail" other than the Solunar.
Nice video, FYI, those two marks on the dial aren't rust spots, they're more likely radium burns from the old lume.
If my geiger counter shows anything I will not work on a watch. In my opinion not worth the risk of getting sick
Appreciate this video and the A&F history. Wow. I asked my wife what decade she thought that A&F founded and she guessed the same as me (between 30 and 40 years ago; 1980's/90's). Thoroughly enjoyed the restoration and am subscribing. Do wish you had restored the hour/minute hands with a gentle sanding. Thank you for this video. Look forward to what else you've got!
I learn a bit more every time. I may try an old inexpensive pocket watch for a beginning.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Fantastic, inspiring video. Great explanations as you worked through the process.
Marshaall, there is something so interesting and relaxing about what you do on this channel. I really enjoy each one...
What a stunning timepiece, and an incredible experience to get to work on it!
"... dates to around the 1950s ... it's *very old* ..." (0:11) I was born in 1947. Thanks, pal. You really know how to make a guy feel good.
Oooops, I meant very old for a watch(?) lol
@@WristwatchRevival 😄😄😄No probs. Your videos are fascinating. Giving life back to what was dead is ... well ... Divine.
The most beautiful of all watches you restored!
Wow! This video just popped up in front of me. It so happens that just this last Tuesday a friend of mine gifted me a Chelsea Ships' bell clock from circa 1960 for my boat that I live on, and it also has an Abercrombie & Fitch trademark. Right now it's going on 4 bells in the first watch. This thing keeps time like a certified chronograph.
A & F were at one time genuinely outfitters for explorers and adventurers.
Wow that is awesome! Would love to see that.
Great content. And great problem solving skills
I been watching you videos on and off for a while. Love the depth of of videos. You have basically made me go buy my first "official" decent watch I think I'm going to buy an islander watch.
New viewer It is great how you name all the parts as you work, just love your video's
Great entertainment, I enjoy watches but know nothing about the workings. really enjoyed this video and the star of the show the dial!
I loved going to Abercrombie and Fitch in Chicago during the 60s and 70s. My dad had a watch of theirs, and I had a safari jacket. I have no idea what happened to the watch.
I was able to reattach the second hand on my $10 Walmart electric watch. Feel like a boss. Could be I have a future hobby.....? Really appreciating how you walk us through every step, share anecdotes and encourage others along with the way to try this hobby...
Not gonna lie I wasn't sure about you and how you did these repairs at first. But I kept watching, and I got enganged and somewhat invested in this watch of yours. You did a great job and explained things very well, I've loved mechanical watches for a long time and have a small collection myself. And I've been watching a lot of mechanical watch repair and service videos to see if I wanted to atempt a service on a watch I just bought that is currently in route from Venezuela to the States. It's an early 60's Omega Cal 600 ref 131.015 that they claim is a working watch but loses time daily, it comes with warranty and everything I can tell from their info and pics it is a legit Omega. I'm guessing it just needs a good service, but not sure I want to pay the potential $700+ for the service just because it is an Omega. Anyways, great job on the video and the watch it's beautiful, you got my sub!
Going back to some of the older videos, it's fun to see how much more refined your techniques have become in two years. Putting that balance jewel back at 45m would definitely be a Do Over, these days. XD
Great video and job well done Marshall. Thanks for sharing
Great videos, love how you comment all the process.
Excellent and compelling viewing. Thanks.
i have been watching your videos for months . i like your presentation and energy. i am one year in on study and recently took a decent watch that was not running.today the hairspring fired up . thank you for all the info and your presentation. A lot more to learn but took a dead watch and it is running. thanks keep goin
Thanks Chris! That's awesome, I'm really glad to hear it!
Beautiful patina on this one, almost feels like deliberate pattern.
Great job. I love wearing watches pre 70’s as they have a cool history and individual character. At any given time I can be seen wearing a 1950’s Rodania, or Gruen or Omega. I even have a Japy Freres movement from 1862 re-cased in a wrist watch case. I wear that when I want to go super vintage. Looking forward to more of your videos.
Love those old Omegas too!
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Excellent, job well done, lovely watch. Cheers.
Beautiful watch.. Looking for one now after seeing this video! Great video
Thats great, well done getting that watch going
Your presentation is awesome and i love, it seems everything you do is magic thank you very much for video, keep entertaining us !
Thank you!
Fantastic production! I've been missing Mark Lovick's videos lately, this is good stuff. As a Lovick fan I'd like to also hear a mellow, low-volume track for background audio, and slightly more relaxed, hypnotic vocal delivery. Love these fix-er-ups. Keep up the good work!
I have been thinking about music or no. The next few videos actually have sound from me working on the watches which seemed appropriate, we'll see how that goes.
@@WristwatchRevival I like the commentary better :)
Definitely agree, music would detract from the videos and I like your delivery.
Fantastic presentation.
I am addicted to your channel. I’m so glad I stumbled on it when I seen Abicrombie & Fitch I was hooked having a chronograph with 1937 engraved on the back
Thanks Joe :)
@@WristwatchRevival could you check my channel and look at my Abicrombie & Fitch? I’m hoping to find information about it.
@@WristwatchRevival if your not interested in repairing my Abicrombie & Fitch can you recommend someone who may?
Lots of great info. You are a great teacher.
You sound like the chef from the Food Wishes channel, and that's just fine because he's a good speaker/teacher. Love the mogen david on the dial.
Me. after watching a dozen or so of Marshall's vids: "I can do that"
Me, after trying it once: AAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHH!
You explain everything so well. Kudos, sir.
Compared to the other watchmakers I watch, you add a large amount of oil to the jewels. Enjoy your videos and look forward to more.
Love this channel, inspired me to get back into watches and fell in love with vintage pieces, just got a enicar last month but now am wanting to get into watch making, got some budget tools and a ultrasonic cleaner, just need a few more tools and a pocket watch to fix, noticed after getting my enicar that it is missing its rear case gasket so in trying to find someone local I found there isn't many watch makers around me so hopefully I'll get good and start working on others watches at some point and have a little monopoly here locally
nice caliber, great work !
Love watching you work and mostly agree with your philosophy. But in this case I would say that patina is one thing, an unsightly rust stain another.
Thanks for posting this video. Learned so much. Regards
I know exactly how I got here but I never expected to find you in this corner of youtube.
Thanks for Limited Resources. I still have my mat from your first Kickstarter. You should really let the community know about this hobby of yours!
Time to get back to the video.
Thank you for the video! I really appreciated it.
Just discovered this and I have been looking breathless... how fascinating. Thank you for sharing and the way you explain things!