Master Mix Mystery Vintage Watch Restoration
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2021
- Marshall finds a branded Master Mix watch on eBay and sets about restoring it. The watch doesn't seem to be from any specific brand, but it does give some clues as to where it's from and what it may have been used for. Come along for the ride as he dives into this project!
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My grandfather, a dairy farmer in southern Wisconsin, used to buy Master Mix brand animal feed, and always wore a Master MIx cap that was given to him by the feed dealer. My grandfather was quite famous for always wearing a 'Master MIx' cap - baseball cap, knit caps, etc., so very familiar with this brand. I was so delighted to see this brand on your channel - a blast from the bast, and warms my heart! He passed away more than 10 years ago, and keep a framed photo of him in his Master Mix cap!
no shot, thats sick
That's so wholesome, I'm sorry for your loss, I lost my poppy way back, I wasn't very old when he passed, he taught me to play chess and fish and now its a hobby of mine, whenever I fish I like to think he's with me
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Nice tip and story. I delved into online searches and managed to find a removed eBay sales page wtih an old ad board for MASATER MIX FEEDS, SOLD HERE. It's also quite nice company logo with the three downward chevrons in a shield shaped emblem.
@@aaronknutson2435😂
Never seen videos disassembling, cleaning, repairing watches before a few days ago and finding your channel. I'm mesmerized now, and love watching them. What got me intrigued is that I have my grandpas Hamilton railroad pocket watch from the 20s. To understand how time was so critical to the railroad, conductors, etc and seeing the initials in the back of the gold watch cover... amazing stuff.
This experience, of going from zero interest or background in the area to ... fascination ... is a tribute to the man behind this channel. Such a great vibe.
I imagine the gunk in the stem tube was probably an old o-ring
This is exactly that
Absolutely. That's why it was completely black. It's plain rubber.
good to know so for the sake of the restoration it is nice if he put a new one!
after years of playing Magic the Gathering and listening to an ominous voice of Marshall on Limited Resources, I have spent the last 6 months diving into watch repair and watchmaking. the Wristwatch Revival channel has always felt comfortable to me from the start... today I finally figured it out. Marshall you sneaky, sneaky man... I have never seen your face, but I know that voice anywhere. I am happy we have so many similar interests :)
I got Into watches recently and this channel came up in my feed so I was like what the hell. He started talking and I was like THAT'S BLOODY MARSHALL! I feel he should do a set review of his watches 🤣
I'd love to see a series video of videos for people interested in getting into the hobby of repairing watches. Like the anatomy of a watch, that goes through all the parts piece by piece, tools that you need etc.
This is awesome stuff Marshall! I'm a pretty casual collector, and seeing the work and attention to detail that goes into these watches just makes me appreciate the hobby even more! Can't wait to see what you work on next!
Marshall, great job on the cinematography! Everything is crystal clear💥
I came because of Sean's recommendation and watched two videos so far.
I don't really care for wrist wratches, but I like your videos very much Marshall. No idea if it's just the general idea of an esports commentator/host (I do love me some MtG tho) doing this as a hobby or if it's your general style, intonation and cadence of your commentary - this is simply amazing. Something tells me that you could commentate a grass growing competition and I'd still be compelled to watch.
Also I wish I was fascinated by something along the lines of watch restoration or anything crafty in general. This seems like a great hobby to really forget the world around you and to clear your head.
I'm glad to see the other comments explaining the origin of Master Mix. I knew it was livestock feed but had never seen a watch like this. Thank you Marshall for putting up these delightful videos. I thoroughly enjoy watching your work.
My father was the head of feed research for Central Soya which was the larger company that Master Mix feed spawned. He had a watch like this. Gave them out to sales folks as incentives and also certain employees and very large customers. They eventually were bought by a company named Bunge
I'm so stunned by how steady your hands are with those tiny little tools and parts. Must not be a big coffee drinker! Such beautiful work
Some people naturally have a super fine touch. I have. I can write words that I can only see under magnification.
In my experience I find that trying to do fine work like that when you're already calm can be quite relaxing, dare I say even zen, it makes you slow down and soak in the details of what your doing.
Of course I've only worked on "Real Grade" gundam model kits and not a watch so it could be a totally different state of mind beyond just the greater skill required
One trick, for me, is to use a very light relaxed grip. As soon as I hold something with a bit of tension I, the hands shiver.
Marshal, stepping back in time with these videos, wonderful to see a little behind the scenes kitchen action, thank you so much for sharing
Another masterpiece of watch service videography! Thanks so much Marshall, this is a really cool find, i learned a thing or two about German watches
I found your channel a few weeks back and really enjoying it, thank you. A real pleasure in hearing you explain the working of the mechanism, and the detailed, conversational way you talk brings the viewer along for the ride. Thank you,
The lume looks original for a Helbros. Prior to Elgin buying them ~1968, they lumed their hands by dipping them in a Tritium compound, then once dried, polished the excess off the top side with a 2000 grit sanding stick. Crude and nasty way of luming. At least it dates your watch to pre-1968.
Thanks for the historical note. I would not have guessed at this watch being well over 50 years old. Did Helbros pioneer that strange barrel design? It was very Timex of them if so.
Imagine sanding tritium. That's a beta particle emitter that you really don't want to be messing about with. It has probably mostly decayed to H3 by now but still...
Something I'm coming to terms with is if I'm going to be working on some of these early 20th century watches, I'm just going to have to stump up the coin for a Geiger counter so that I can deal with them appropriately.
Loving your videos pal. Watched 3 back to back the other day while at the bench.
Slightly envious of your success on this platform in such a short space of time. (In a good way) really love your camera work, I must improve as your setting the benchmark high my friend .
You are not the only one to be envious of his camera skills, Michael...
I would agree with his great camera angles and probably tons of editing, but also his narration is what keeps me watching. It's kinda like he's the color commentator for a golf game.
@@curtisc8386 If you're not aware, he's the main color commentator for Wizards of the Coast / Magic the Gathering tournaments. Also has over a decade on youtube in that space. ;)
@@mikeboegeman7639 I was definitely not aware, aside from seeing the magic playmat on the table.
Nice to know! Thank you
So I got a Helbros watch to do my first taking apart watch. It's a PUW 360 not automatic. Still gathering tools to work on it. Cameras and microscope, eye piece etc. Want to do videos like Marshal, but is not easy. Marshal is a pro.
Have fun with it. That’s the doorway to learning and becoming competent.
I've been watching your channel for several weeks and I like how you show disassembly and re-assembly of watches. I decided to subscribe and show my support.
Another fun and instructional video, Marshall! Many thanks and be well.
I enjoy your videos. Thanks for this. I've been buying stuff on ebay as well with varying degrees of luck. Not sure if my latest one is fake. Got a Hot Wheels watch for really cheap that needs help, might be my first project! I remember them from when I was a kid.
Love your videos Marshall. You've inspired me to have a go learning about this wonderful art. I love the way that mechanical watches are examples of form following function, and the outcome is something that is beautiful as well as a marvel of miniature engineering. Keep going with these wonderful videos.
Thanks Patrick, and I couldn't agree more re: form following function
@@WristwatchRevival I enjoy your videos and must say I like the fact you talk and explain what's going on. You have a pleasing voice as well; on many other channels the guy is silent or just doesn't sound good.
I have noticed that I find it very hard to tell the difference between movements, they all pretty much look and work the same, could you maybe explain what some of the differences between movements are?
Great job ! Love the re-lum of the hands. Bravo from France
Well done Marshall! Great job, it looks great! Cheers.
I liked that you keep your watch cleaning machine in your kitchen with other appliances
Marshall wanted to show us the watch cleaning machine so he could flex on us with a big dog from his watch collection. Another fantastic video as always!
Señor Marshall eres un crack, muy buen trabajo. Gracias
Another fine job done by Marshall...!
Wow ~ Beautiful job, love it!
I think you've already reached the level of an expert. It's a very interesting video. Thank you Marshall
Not so much, but he is good for an amateur obviously
Hello, Marshall! From one of your subbies. I have experienced other watch/clock repair and refurbishing channels and most of them do not talk to you while they are doing what they are doing so as to guide you through the journey you are taking with them. And also to explain what the parts are, what they do, and how they interrelate. Only you do this. That is why I continually watch as many of your vids as I can find. And when I find another watch repair/cleaning vid, I watch it, get disappointed, and then come back to you. I like following you, but cannot afford, right now, to put you on my patron list. If I manage to get a handle on my finances, I will cheerfully add you to the list. See ya!!
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"This one is not the most clever design... but seems to be robust.". I think that perfectly sums up this movement.
Just a quick fyi, I found that polywatch also cleans up the scratches on the handles of swiss army knives really well.
It's basically a buffing compound. Thick goop with graded sand in it. Kind of. A bit more technical than that but that's the basic idea.
Your commentary makes for a very interesting video. Nice watch. 👍
Another great restoration. I really like that you show different movements on the channel. It keeps things interesting. If the previous owner of the watch smoked it might explain the sticky residue in the watch and on the face. It just might have been cigarette tar.
I like how you narrate after video and editing.
Thank you for a good, well filmed video. very enjoyable.
Well done! (risky business cleaning dials) You have an eye for choosing nice watches to restore!
My dad Worked for Master Mix in the Caribbean. It was bought and became part of ADM.
Nice, relaxing channel, Marshall. You can buy a demagnetize/magnetizer block at Harbor Freight or any tool supply for a few bucks. I used to sell the Wiha brand when I was in the tool repair business. You can magnetize or demagnetize any instrument or tool.⚙️⌚
I noticed you're calling it a pallet fork now and not pallet forks. Bravo!
Second time in youtube I've watched such a steady hand on a minuscule work space, first was an ocular surgery.
Like the way you explain everything.
Master Mix - livestock feed company here in the midwest. Interesting find!!!
Excellent job!
Beautiful job....gorgeous!
Re the dial cleaning .. the colour of the yellow looks like tobacco staining which is a tar/oil residue. When this is encountered on oil paintings, the best non-destructive cleaning technique is to use, believe it or not, your spit. This contains several enzymes which will cut through the tar. So just dampen, rather than wet, a good quality cotton with your spit and using a gentle rolling motion of the bud should work. Rotating the cotton bud rather than using a rubbing motion and changing the bud as soon as its surface is yellowed. Using water, as in the video, has no enzymes to release the oil and therefore requires much more rubbing hence potential, if not actual, removal of writing on the watch face. Hope that is useful. Love your videos ... please keep them coming.
Helbros watches was founded by the Helbein brothers in 1913. The company registered a trademark registered in New York in 1916 and in Geneva in 1918. The 1918 Swiss registration probably explains why the company is sometimes said to have been founded in 1918.
The brothers’ nationality is usually given as Swiss-German. This is contradicted by contemporaneous reports, William Helbein, who managed the company and is named on an early trademark registration, was born in Russia, now Ukraine in 1889, and later became an American citizen in 1916.
According to his obituary. William was educated in Russia, the Netherlands and Belgium and his father was a diamond dealer.
This watches is branded West Germany, but all of the written text is in English instead of German. The build would be between 1949 to 1990.
Like it when you zoom in on the oiling like the details.
*Excellent on the timegrapher!*
Thanx for doing extra time with the Mastermatic !
Edit: Decades ago, ads for clocks used to have them set to 8:20 in the pictures. Did they change it to 10:08 to change the frown to a smile? And why were they at 8:20 to begin with?
That Gunk was a rubber washer usually installed for waterproofing
You should buy a old 1920's-1930's trench watch and restore it! They are usually quite easily found non-working and are often quite affordable!
Most look like they have been through hell and back so a restoration on a watch/movement that beat would surely be challenging and make for a great video!
I'm not that into watches, or watch making.... But these videos are fascinating, really enjoyable.
Thank you for the great video.👍!!!
Always enjoy the videos. A novice question… have you ever reassembled a piece only to find out you had parts remaining?
Thanks for explaining amplitude
I always smile at the be careful & beware admonitions.. because to me it is self explanatory, the very word spring should alert one as to what it will do !! But many thanks for these instructive listen look & learn..vids.
He's like bosnianbill but instead of locks, it's watches
I'd guess the yellowing on the dial was a degraded clear coat rather than "dirt". Lettering gone "like tears in the rain". Thanks for another excellent video.
New hand press!
Thank you Marshall!
Nice job. My opinion is that even without out the print, the dial looks better for having the clean. The print would have come off anyway and just cluttered the dial in the future. I'm always amazed that sometimes the most normal of watches keep such great time.
Nice job Marshall.
Beautiful work, l love.watching your .
Wow that is a beautiful watch
I think I understand how the time grapher knows the time offset and the beat error. I don't understand how it knows the amplitude! Is there any information about that anywhere?
Does polywatch work on all crystals? Or just acrylic crystals?
Just acrylic, hence the "poly" part it's only ment for plastics, glass and sapphire probably won't even react to it or if they do, minimally so
What solutions do you use in your L&R cleaning machine? Another great video - thanks for sharing!!
I just found your videos and they are great. I’m wondering, in the early days of when you were learning watch repair, how did you keep track of which components went where and especially what screws held each component.
Photos. Lots and lots of photos. When I take apart a watch, for example the bridges, I put the screws next to the holes they came from on that bridge. put everything out on the bench "how you found it" in the watch, and take tons of pictures!
You have the most professionaly made videos I've seen on youtube. Every watch repair is interesting and informative. I now call out the part names before you do. Do you curse when one of those tiny parts go flying off the workbench? I would. Thanks ..... Dan
You have murdered the dial
Hi ! Really good video,
I was wondering: where did you learn to oil a watch ? I'm currently trying to learn but I'm having a bit of a hard time.
Thanks for your time !
Branded for a Midwestern Jeweler chain, Helbros Jewelers. More than likely outsourced, like the Sears Tradition series.
Hi, your video was interesting and entertaining as always! But I still have a question: when you come across a watch, how can you be sure that what's on the hands is not radium? I was thinking of buying one or two on eBay to have a go at disassembling them, and when the date of fabrication is not clear, I don't know how to tell radium hands from the harmless hands..any advice?
First instinct is to tell you that you need a Geiger Counter.
You could possibly see whether it can deactivate a trip beam often used in shop doorways. The ones that cause a beep or buzz sound when the invisible beam is interrupted across the entrance doorway . Usually they use UV which is much lower energy but relatively intense . Maybe radiation from radium hands could have enough energy to energise the receiver . It's worth a try ....
Wow nice work 👍😎
Hi, I really like your videos. I’m wondering, how important is it that you use the exact screws from where they came from when you reassemble. How similar are they? Thanks, and I really enjoy your work.
GREAT JOB!!
Impecable trabajo con un movimiento increíble, sólo que la mosca en la sopa fué el dial, pero lo más increíble es no haberlo impreso nuevamente y pegado.
Just recieved 30 membrane boxes from eBay ,normally used in the dental industri for teeths aso 1$ a piece and they work excellent for safe storing and shipping of delicate watch parts, just passing the idea, have a nice day all.
So remarkable that you run your watch cleaning machine in your kitchen near cans with pasta. =) So similar to my own experience.
The zojirushi rice cooker on your counter is a very fine machine. Great rice every time!
Hahah it really is
Very nice restore. Did you need to use any kind of tutorial to re assemble this movement? Did you take photo's as you were disassembling it? The movement looks to be very good quality. Great job!
You are coming along and I can see that your skills are getting a lot better.
He mentioned it in other videos, surprisingly it's the very same disassembly video we watch he can also use to reverse the process, so not only is it fascinating for us, but a useful refrence for him to use too, pretty neat!
Marshall, great commentary. can you please share the details on the camera setup?. it looks very well done.
I like to see the before and after on the time graph machine that's the exciting part for me.
I have just found your channel. I am hooked. What brilliant content. I have been binge watching your content. 3/4 plates are a classic English style of watch. You might be interested, if you haven’t already seen it, in watching Roger W Smith’s UA-cam videos about making watch cases, engine turning, hand making………….
Miyota also does some 3/4 plates too. I know from my own misfortune that the early 8200 series uses them
Anyone else notice the surprised face in this movement. Once you see it you can't unsee it.
Its a Helbros, i recognize the little squiggle under selfwinding. They had many of their watches made in west germany at the time. I have one next to me right now, a skin diver, with the same squiggle and it too is made in west germany. I havent watched any of the video yet, but immediately recognized it.
that part you're talking about that releases the stem is a detent.
Guess you get this asked all the time, do you ever change the plastic bag you use as protection for removing the hands? I love you reuse it. Love your channel.
Marshall’s voice is so suited for asmr
Dial sure looks better without the “nicotine coating” nice work as always. 👍🏻😉
Nice job 👍👌
I guess you must be the most enthusiastic watchmaker on the planet. The logo of that watch indeed looks like the logo of 'Chevron', a brand of motor oil and combustible products.
A lovely video as always. One question - what did you think of the quality of the movement? Given that this was a "corporate logo gift" type product. These days such things are low quality. I am curious about "those days" :)
Man the amplitude really jumped once everything was cleaned and oiled properly. Nice result.
That gooey black stuff that came out of the winding stem barrel was an 'O' ring (well the remains of one)
He is back!
Hi Marshall, another great video. I noticed that you've got now a larger basket for your L&R Mastermatic (compared to the video from last year, I'm aware I'm sad for noticing :) ). I have the same model with the smaller basket, did you get the larger one off of eBay?
not as sad as me wondering why he did not "let down the mainspring"
shows that he is teaching an old fart like me something new as well as keeping me so engrossed
Hi - great video. Could you provide some info in your links about your crystal press. Much appreciated. John
Yes just in time!
I think that you can call it a Helbro. I am a bit older, and I recall a watch of that name advertised on TV in New York in the 1950's.