As always you are right about movements and price Bill. Spending $5000 for a watch that has basically the same movement as one that cost $500 is not a good idea. Bought my wife a 2014 Rolex 34mm OP with a 3,6.9 salmon dial about 8 months ago. It is obviously her favorite. She works with 3 year old children so the watch had to be able to withstand that type of environment. It deals with it far better than I could, after one day I would be a basket case.
That is a wonderful watch for your wife Dallas! Using your watch-buying money wisely means that you get an excellent watch rather than something lesser for the same price. I love 3-year olds, and enjoyed our grandkids when they were that age...and then my wife and I smiled broadly as our kids took them home after a visit! Cheers, Bill
Tell me about it Bill. My wifes brother is much younger. I am 59 years old. Chasing after a 3 year old is not as simple as it may sound. I love her dearly, but she can move fast. It is good to send her home to her mother and father at the end of the day.
Not only are 3-year olds fast, they don't unwind! Consider it part of an exercise program and strap an automatic on one to use as a winder. Cheers, Bill
With no collection review today I’m watching and rewatching some of your older videos. As always this is another wonderful video Bill. I think the next watch on my want list is the Habring2 Felix. As I look around at other watches I keep coming back to it. Anyway I hope all is well Bill. See you next week.
Another excellent video Bill. I have got to say I really appreciate the amount of research and effort that goes into these, it's easy to forget when the knowledge is worn lightly, but it must take quite a bit of time to prepare for every one. Thank you.
Thanks Paul! I assume that like everyone else in this hobby, digging into a watch's or brand's history and quality are part of the fun of watch collection. Given the high prices (and since when is $1,000 or €1,000 or £1,000 or any other 1k not a lot of money?), doing to digging helps me spend money wisely....up to a point. I do not buy a watch to swap; so I'm not too concerned with re-sale value. Why get a watch you don't intend to enjoy forever? Cheers, Bill
Thank you for the great vid sir. Do you happen to know what the typical maintenance cost for servicing a Harbring2 Felix and what the recommended intervals are between servicing?
Hey No One, thanks man! I've had my Habring2 for over a year now, and it still keeps flawless time. They recommend a complete inspection every 5 years--from the Habring2 web site: "Similar to common aviation practice, each functional unit of a mechanical watch - in our case the movement in particular - should be completely dismantled and checked for any signs of wear every five years. The forces within the movement are transferred via many axles, with each axle pin running in mainly low-friction ruby bearings and lubricated with the finest oils. Despite ongoing technological advances, lubricating oils still have a limited lifetime - bearing friction increases when the oil's lubricating effect starts to deteriorate, resulting in the hazard of possible damage to the bearing pin. If no signs of wear are detected, each component is cleaned in special media and then reassembled with fresh oils and the necessary care. Worn parts are replaced before greater damage is sustained." I have no idea what they charge, but in 4 years when I send mine in, I'll certainly find out!! Cheers, Bill
The Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39 with dark rhodium dial is the one I would buy....if I had that sort of money. I don't know about the Planet Ocean. One thing they should really get rid of is that helium escapement valve. Btw, you forget the Bvlgari Octo. That one is also under 5 grand. That model will most likely go up in value since both Patek Nautilus and AP Royal Oak went up in price a lot in the last years. Pre-owned Nautilus pieces are sold for even higher prices that from retail. All three of these models have the same designer if I'm not mistaken.
Hey Frantisek great to hear from you! The list is made up of watches with in-house movements only from the Strong Horology ranking. The Bvlgari Octo has a BVL 328 movement, which is based on a Zenith El Primero 400, and while the Bvlgari Octo is one I would heartily recommend, it fell out of the criteria set... strictly speaking. Having said that, I would have no problem recommending the Bvlgari Octo given the excellence of the EP 400. The whole concept of "in-house" gets ink-stained and messy when we find that both Bvlgari and Zenith are owned by Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton SE -LVMH. Both Patek Philippe and AP are from the High Horology ranks; so would not be in the same weight-class. However, I would not be surprised to see Bvlgari move up given the Grand Prix d’Horlogerie de Genève wins they had this year in haute horlogerie. Kindest regards, Bill
Hi Brian, I keep watching your videos, enjoying them and most of all learning from them I checked the winners of Grand Prix awards and Tag Heuer has quite lots of wins, however when I check them out they do not have many in house movements so I am puzzled, because of the movements one could say "they are not in the High Horology category", but from the awards point of view one could say "yes, they are". My first good watch was an aquaracer chrono with an ETA and I knew it was not going to be the top of the line, but I certainly did not have to break the bank for that one either (I think you call that a true / honesty watch - exception for the monaco at $6k with SW movement). I would like to hear your thoughts, thanks a lot.
Danny, glad to hear you're looking into the Grand Prix awards. Yes TAG Heuer has quite a few awards...more than quite a few in fact. However, on closer examination we find that few of the award-winning watches by TAG Heuer ever make it to general production. In the case of their Grand Prize winner, they made 1. That's right 1. They wanted to win the Aiguille d'Or; so they made a watch that could, and it did! Check out the TAG winners and see how many you can find on Chrono24. Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill .. good show! I am a fan of the 42mm Planet Ocean. They can be had in KL or Singapore for about 3000usd for a mint one with box and papers. I agree about Chronoswiss ... I used to have a Regulateur and it was very nice looking watch. I had bought it 2nd hand for 1100usd and at that price in-house wasnt an issue. It was very nice looking. The only good thing about an ETA is service cost. Here in Saigon a full service on an ETA diver cost me about 60 U.S.D. with all test result paper work ...
I was so jazzed when I found that Chronoswiss for that price with an 18k gold case, I was dumbfounded when I found it ran on an ETA like all of Chronoswiss. A beautiful watch that they dumped an ETA in and wanted $14,000 for? You're right about service on an ETA. For a minor service on 2, it cost me only $30. All they did was add a drop of oil and I wanted a new hairspring for a Valjoux 84, but they was above their skill level. Watchmakers who do service love ETAs because 1) they know how to work with them and 2) they can [until recently perhaps] get parts. But no high horology at all. Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci Not high horology, but sophisticated manufacturing that gives a lot of benefits at low price. In a 3 hand watch perhaps with day/time, pretty hard to fault .. but not much to look at.
You could pick up a pre owned Breguet type xx for that kind of money. Stunning looking dial, a fly back chronograph functionality, and a brand with a deep and long horological history.
Hi Graham, indeed you can get much better buys on the pre-owned market.That's where about half of mine come from. However, this video is for 1) Watches in new or condition zero shape, and 2) from the Strong Horology group. The under $5k Breguet Type XX is 1) Pre-owned and 2) High Horology. Would I rather have a pre-owned Breguet Type XX? You bet!! Cheers, Bill
What about the Tudor Heritage Advisor? It is an ETA 2892 but has an in-house alarm module, which is Tudor's only in house module or movement. Granted, it costs 6k but it seems to be a better value than a Memovox at 11k or a Cricket at 8k.
Steven, I do like the Tudor Heritage Advisor, but 6k is a bit much. The new Tudor Heritage GMT is only $3,900, and it has a Tudor movement. Have you seen the new GMT? Kindest regards, Bill
Very very interesting variety of 5 very very different watches.Bang for buck to me is Zenith.I have two modern one vintage and they are great and all could be office watches.Depending on your office a date might be important.
Hey Galja, I agree. I have a Zenith Elite GMT, and it keeps near perfect time and is a reliable solid watch. It's the kind of watch that will be with me forever! Cheers, Bill
Hi Fabien, well, I had one Omega, and the Speedy has been examined by just about everyone; and since I limited myself to 5 watches, I wanted to provide a wide horological view. With more watches to suggest, the Speedy would likely to have been included. Kindest regards, Bill
Not a bad watch (oyster perpetual) but I have to say ‘what an unwarrantable departure from the laws of visual harmony’ colour wise. I’m sure that somebody will love it and praise it’s a aesthetic value. I have no wish to sound ‘mean spirited’ but purple grape doesn’t do it for me. Once again, thanks for a great video.
Imagine going into a dog pound to rescue a puppy from death. There's only one left, and it's so ugly you cannot tell which end is the face. But you adopt anyway and end up with the best dog you've ever had. In other words, it's got a good heart and soul; and so can a watch with an unfortunate dial, color and design. That's why it can be a good deal! (Not as good as the dog from the pound, though.) Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill, i understand your remark about the Chronoswiss caliber, but honestly, i think SW300/ETA2892 is probably far better quality then most inhouse movements. It doesn’t have the ”cachet” of inhouse, agreed, but the fact that ETA movements are called ”tractors” inside the Swiss watch production plants might give some indication.
Hi Erik.... here I've got to disagree with you. If you haven't seen this open letter from Roger Smith, it may help explain my position. www.hodinkee.com/articles/an-open-letter-from-roger-smith Keep in mind that Chronoswiss charged $14,000 for a watch with a $100 movement. Had they put in a Vaucher, I'd have no problem with a high quality movement by a non-inhouse movement maker; but they did not do that. They put in a cheap movement, gave it another name implying that it was manufactured by Chronosiss. What's worse is that Chronoswiss was a beautiful watch with its clean dial and big beautiful onion-shaped crown; why would they do that to an 18k gold watch?! We should never get used to the idea that it's ok for the watch manufacturers to routinely defraud us. Never. If we as collectors don't stand up for ourselves; no one else will. Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci i get your point: movement, finishing, materials and complications should be reflected in the price. Here it is not. Nothing wrong with a first class 2892. But it is if it is baptized another name in order to justify the watches’ high cost.
There's one more point Erik. I hate to think that the manufacturers have such contempt for us that they think that we can't figure it out. Cheers, Bill
I dont think they have contempt for you. In my humble opinion the prices are just a reflection of what watch manufacturers think their watches will bring in an open market. Arrogant perhaps but it applies to brands like Michael Kors as well where a watch costs maybe 1$ to make and sells for 500$. If we can figure it out then it means they are not exactly hiding it very well.
Ivan, I don't follow your logic, but I'm sure it makes sense. Actually, watch companies are quite good at hiding junk in their watches, and it takes a good deal of work to dig up what's inside. For example, can you tell me what movements are in the different Cartiers? Cheers, Bill
Bill, great as usual! I don't know why but list video's tend to get a lot of attention. I'm guilty of watching them too. When they come from someone that is trustworthy and knowledgeable even more so. Thanks for spreading the love. Leigh
Hey Leigh, thanks man! Have you seen any other watches lately that you like? If not, you can add the Bvlgari Octo Solotempo to your list. Here's one that looked like a good deal : www.jomashop.com/bvlgari-watch-102104.html If the dial looks familiar it's the same designer who did the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak - Gerald Genta! Cheers, Bill
Bill, just got back to camp and will check out the Bvlgari. It's deer season here in SW Oklahoma. I've been helping my former secretaries son and grand son's bring some venison home. I hunt watches on my phone in the evenings at camp with the help of a guide from Connecticut (haha). By the way the kids 14-16 boys think your intro music is salty. I think that's good? Back to the watches sorry. Two watches one on Chrono24 Tw-Taipi Parminigiani Flerier Tonda 42 18k WG $6800 US and one on montredo.com Glashutte Original PanoReserve 40 Silver Dial $6500 Euro. A cheaper dress watch on ebay Zenith Elite 90/020040/680 blue dial. Thanks Leigh PS a few months ago before I started watching your channel. I was looking at vintage watches in Tulsa Ok a guy had a vintage Bovet for sale. I had no idea what it was then. I remember asking him about it. He said oh I think its some old swiss brand. If it was real do they have value?
If it's one from the 1940s and a Bovet, it could be valuable horologically, especially if it's a Monorattrapante. Check out this video. ua-cam.com/video/kWbdd8m6hFM/v-deo.html (See if a $100 will get it for you...) Good Watch Hunting! Bill
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As always you are right about movements and price Bill. Spending $5000 for a watch that has basically the same movement as one that cost $500 is not a good idea. Bought my wife a 2014 Rolex 34mm OP with a 3,6.9 salmon dial about 8 months ago. It is obviously her favorite. She works with 3 year old children so the watch had to be able to withstand that type of environment. It deals with it far better than I could, after one day I would be a basket case.
That is a wonderful watch for your wife Dallas! Using your watch-buying money wisely means that you get an excellent watch rather than something lesser for the same price. I love 3-year olds, and enjoyed our grandkids when they were that age...and then my wife and I smiled broadly as our kids took them home after a visit! Cheers, Bill
Tell me about it Bill. My wifes brother is much younger. I am 59 years old. Chasing after a 3 year old is not as simple as it may sound. I love her dearly, but she can move fast. It is good to send her home to her mother and father at the end of the day.
Not only are 3-year olds fast, they don't unwind! Consider it part of an exercise program and strap an automatic on one to use as a winder. Cheers, Bill
The learning curve with your episodes is outstanding. Thanks again for the horology lesson.
You're welcome Matt. It's a joy for me to go digging around in horology finding nuggets where they lie! Cheers, Bill
With no collection review today I’m watching and rewatching some of your older videos. As always this is another wonderful video Bill. I think the next watch on my want list is the Habring2 Felix. As I look around at other watches I keep coming back to it. Anyway I hope all is well Bill. See you next week.
Some of those I've reviewed myself, Bruce! Cheers Bill
Another excellent video Bill.
I have got to say I really appreciate the amount of research and effort that goes into these, it's easy to forget when the knowledge is worn lightly, but it must take quite a bit of time to prepare for every one. Thank you.
Thanks Paul! I assume that like everyone else in this hobby, digging into a watch's or brand's history and quality are part of the fun of watch collection. Given the high prices (and since when is $1,000 or €1,000 or £1,000 or any other 1k not a lot of money?), doing to digging helps me spend money wisely....up to a point. I do not buy a watch to swap; so I'm not too concerned with re-sale value. Why get a watch you don't intend to enjoy forever? Cheers, Bill
Thank you for the great vid sir.
Do you happen to know what the typical maintenance cost for servicing a Harbring2 Felix and what the recommended intervals are between servicing?
Hey No One, thanks man! I've had my Habring2 for over a year now, and it still keeps flawless time. They recommend a complete inspection every 5 years--from the Habring2 web site: "Similar to common aviation practice, each functional unit of a mechanical watch - in our case the movement in particular - should be completely dismantled and checked for any signs of wear every five years. The forces within the movement are transferred via many axles, with each axle pin running in mainly low-friction ruby bearings and lubricated with the finest oils. Despite ongoing technological advances, lubricating oils still have a limited lifetime - bearing friction increases when the oil's lubricating effect starts to deteriorate, resulting in the hazard of possible damage to the bearing pin.
If no signs of wear are detected, each component is cleaned in special media and then reassembled with fresh oils and the necessary care.
Worn parts are replaced before greater damage is sustained."
I have no idea what they charge, but in 4 years when I send mine in, I'll certainly find out!! Cheers, Bill
The Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39 with dark rhodium dial is the one I would buy....if I had that sort of money. I don't know about the Planet Ocean. One thing they should really get rid of is that helium escapement valve. Btw, you forget the Bvlgari Octo. That one is also under 5 grand. That model will most likely go up in value since both Patek Nautilus and AP Royal Oak went up in price a lot in the last years. Pre-owned Nautilus pieces are sold for even higher prices that from retail. All three of these models have the same designer if I'm not mistaken.
Hey Frantisek great to hear from you! The list is made up of watches with in-house movements only from the Strong Horology ranking. The Bvlgari Octo has a BVL 328 movement, which is based on a Zenith El Primero 400, and while the Bvlgari Octo is one I would heartily recommend, it fell out of the criteria set... strictly speaking. Having said that, I would have no problem recommending the Bvlgari Octo given the excellence of the EP 400. The whole concept of "in-house" gets ink-stained and messy when we find that both Bvlgari and Zenith are owned by Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton SE -LVMH. Both Patek Philippe and AP are from the High Horology ranks; so would not be in the same weight-class. However, I would not be surprised to see Bvlgari move up given the Grand Prix d’Horlogerie de Genève wins they had this year in haute horlogerie. Kindest regards, Bill
Hi Brian, I keep watching your videos, enjoying them and most of all learning from them
I checked the winners of Grand Prix awards and Tag Heuer has quite lots of wins, however when I check them out they do not have many in house movements so I am puzzled, because of the movements one could say "they are not in the High Horology category", but from the awards point of view one could say "yes, they are".
My first good watch was an aquaracer chrono with an ETA and I knew it was not going to be the top of the line, but I certainly did not have to break the bank for that one either (I think you call that a true / honesty watch - exception for the monaco at $6k with SW movement).
I would like to hear your thoughts, thanks a lot.
Danny, glad to hear you're looking into the Grand Prix awards. Yes TAG Heuer has quite a few awards...more than quite a few in fact. However, on closer examination we find that few of the award-winning watches by TAG Heuer ever make it to general production. In the case of their Grand Prize winner, they made 1. That's right 1. They wanted to win the Aiguille d'Or; so they made a watch that could, and it did! Check out the TAG winners and see how many you can find on Chrono24. Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill .. good show! I am a fan of the 42mm Planet Ocean. They can be had in KL or Singapore for about 3000usd for a mint one with box and papers. I agree about Chronoswiss ... I used to have a Regulateur and it was very nice looking watch. I had bought it 2nd hand for 1100usd and at that price in-house wasnt an issue. It was very nice looking. The only good thing about an ETA is service cost. Here in Saigon a full service on an ETA diver cost me about 60 U.S.D. with all test result paper work ...
I was so jazzed when I found that Chronoswiss for that price with an 18k gold case, I was dumbfounded when I found it ran on an ETA like all of Chronoswiss. A beautiful watch that they dumped an ETA in and wanted $14,000 for? You're right about service on an ETA. For a minor service on 2, it cost me only $30. All they did was add a drop of oil and I wanted a new hairspring for a Valjoux 84, but they was above their skill level. Watchmakers who do service love ETAs because 1) they know how to work with them and 2) they can [until recently perhaps] get parts. But no high horology at all. Cheers, Bill
WatchArtSci Not high horology, but sophisticated manufacturing that gives a lot of benefits at low price. In a 3 hand watch perhaps with day/time, pretty hard to fault .. but not much to look at.
If they have sophisticated mfg, why not manufacture movements? Love their dials, though. Cheers Bill
WatchArtSci I meant ETA has sophisticated MFG ... not Chronoswiss. They never have seemed interested in doing in-house.
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
You could pick up a pre owned Breguet type xx for that kind of money. Stunning looking dial, a fly back chronograph functionality, and a brand with a deep and long horological history.
Hi Graham, indeed you can get much better buys on the pre-owned market.That's where about half of mine come from. However, this video is for 1) Watches in new or condition zero shape, and 2) from the Strong Horology group. The under $5k Breguet Type XX is 1) Pre-owned and 2) High Horology. Would I rather have a pre-owned Breguet Type XX? You bet!! Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill, Nice video, you didn't include JLC Reverso. Do you consider the Reverso watch in the High horology segment then?
Hi Dev, thanks man. Yes, JLC Reverso is definitely in the HH rank and I would recommend it for a great watch under $5k in heartbeat! Cheers, Bill
What about the Tudor Heritage Advisor? It is an ETA 2892 but has an in-house alarm module, which is Tudor's only in house module or movement. Granted, it costs 6k but it seems to be a better value than a Memovox at 11k or a Cricket at 8k.
Steven, I do like the Tudor Heritage Advisor, but 6k is a bit much. The new Tudor Heritage GMT is only $3,900, and it has a Tudor movement. Have you seen the new GMT? Kindest regards, Bill
Another great presentation! Looking for a good deal on an El Primero.
Thanks Richard. Have you seen this? ua-cam.com/video/kWbdd8m6hFM/v-deo.html Take care, bill
Very very interesting variety of 5 very very different watches.Bang for buck to me is Zenith.I have two modern one vintage and they are great and all could be office watches.Depending on your office a date might be important.
Hey Galja, I agree. I have a Zenith Elite GMT, and it keeps near perfect time and is a reliable solid watch. It's the kind of watch that will be with me forever! Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill. Thanks for the video. I would have added the Omega Speedmaster Professional. Why you did not ?
Hi Fabien, well, I had one Omega, and the Speedy has been examined by just about everyone; and since I limited myself to 5 watches, I wanted to provide a wide horological view. With more watches to suggest, the Speedy would likely to have been included. Kindest regards, Bill
Thanks Bill i understand
Not a bad watch (oyster perpetual) but I have to say ‘what an unwarrantable departure from the laws of visual harmony’ colour wise. I’m sure that somebody will love it and praise it’s a aesthetic value. I have no wish to sound ‘mean spirited’ but purple grape doesn’t do it for me. Once again, thanks for a great video.
Imagine going into a dog pound to rescue a puppy from death. There's only one left, and it's so ugly you cannot tell which end is the face. But you adopt anyway and end up with the best dog you've ever had. In other words, it's got a good heart and soul; and so can a watch with an unfortunate dial, color and design. That's why it can be a good deal! (Not as good as the dog from the pound, though.) Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill, i understand your remark about the Chronoswiss caliber, but honestly, i think SW300/ETA2892 is probably far better quality then most inhouse movements. It doesn’t have the ”cachet” of inhouse, agreed, but the fact that ETA movements are called ”tractors” inside the Swiss watch production plants might give some indication.
Hi Erik.... here I've got to disagree with you. If you haven't seen this open letter from Roger Smith, it may help explain my position. www.hodinkee.com/articles/an-open-letter-from-roger-smith Keep in mind that Chronoswiss charged $14,000 for a watch with a $100 movement. Had they put in a Vaucher, I'd have no problem with a high quality movement by a non-inhouse movement maker; but they did not do that. They put in a cheap movement, gave it another name implying that it was manufactured by Chronosiss. What's worse is that Chronoswiss was a beautiful watch with its clean dial and big beautiful onion-shaped crown; why would they do that to an 18k gold watch?! We should never get used to the idea that it's ok for the watch manufacturers to routinely defraud us. Never. If we as collectors don't stand up for ourselves; no one else will. Kindest regards, Bill
WatchArtSci i get your point: movement, finishing, materials and complications should be reflected in the price. Here it is not. Nothing wrong with a first class 2892. But it is if it is baptized another name in order to justify the watches’ high cost.
There's one more point Erik. I hate to think that the manufacturers have such contempt for us that they think that we can't figure it out. Cheers, Bill
I dont think they have contempt for you. In my humble opinion the prices are just a reflection of what watch manufacturers think their watches will bring in an open market. Arrogant perhaps but it applies to brands like Michael Kors as well where a watch costs maybe 1$ to make and sells for 500$. If we can figure it out then it means they are not exactly hiding it very well.
Ivan, I don't follow your logic, but I'm sure it makes sense. Actually, watch companies are quite good at hiding junk in their watches, and it takes a good deal of work to dig up what's inside. For example, can you tell me what movements are in the different Cartiers? Cheers, Bill
Bill, great as usual! I don't know why but list video's tend to get a lot of attention. I'm guilty of watching them too. When they come from someone that is trustworthy and knowledgeable even more so. Thanks for spreading the love. Leigh
Hey Leigh, thanks man! Have you seen any other watches lately that you like? If not, you can add the Bvlgari Octo Solotempo to your list. Here's one that looked like a good deal : www.jomashop.com/bvlgari-watch-102104.html If the dial looks familiar it's the same designer who did the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak - Gerald Genta! Cheers, Bill
Bill, just got back to camp and will check out the Bvlgari. It's deer season here in SW Oklahoma. I've been helping my former secretaries son and grand son's bring some venison home. I hunt watches on my phone in the evenings at camp with the help of a guide from Connecticut (haha). By the way the kids 14-16 boys think your intro music is salty. I think that's good? Back to the watches sorry. Two watches one on Chrono24 Tw-Taipi Parminigiani Flerier Tonda 42 18k WG $6800 US and one on montredo.com Glashutte Original PanoReserve 40 Silver Dial $6500 Euro. A cheaper dress watch on ebay Zenith Elite 90/020040/680 blue dial. Thanks Leigh
PS a few months ago before I started watching your channel. I was looking at vintage watches in Tulsa Ok a guy had a vintage Bovet for sale. I had no idea what it was then. I remember asking him about it. He said oh I think its some old swiss brand. If it was real do they have value?
If it's one from the 1940s and a Bovet, it could be valuable horologically, especially if it's a Monorattrapante. Check out this video. ua-cam.com/video/kWbdd8m6hFM/v-deo.html (See if a $100 will get it for you...) Good Watch Hunting! Bill
Zenith!Always good bang for the buck.I love your watch recommendations.You are my master as a watch scholar.Thanks...
Hey Derek, thanks man! My Zenith has been solid since day 1 that I got. It's one of the best watch buys around. Kindest regards, Bill
Habring is a good "sleeper" indeed.
Indeed it is TimeKeeper, and mine is as accurate as the day I bought it! Great watch by a master watchmaker! Cheers, Bill