Cell is the true demon king because he has Piccolo's DNA, Dabura and Abura were servants for Piccolo's father kattatsu as he was stronger than super buu and he was able to tap into his orange form, Dabura is only that strong because of babidi's magic he's much weaker than all the saiyans
idk always felt cell kinda cheap cuz he had to borrow so many other characters dna and body... he cant be perfect by himself. just an imperfect insect. 😔 lol but will always be one of the goats in db.
Piccolo can grow giant In his giant form he is unstoppable against all the other demons he can't turn to stone and he gians massive power all the green demons could turn to giants which made the other demons afraid except Neva he tried to rule them
If piccolo wasn’t fast thinking enough to dismember himself and survive Dabura spit then I would assume cell wouldn’t survive it either. This is assuming cell doesn’t know about it ahead of time, and there is no reason why he would.
He would still eventually break and regenerate, in the demon realm that technique doesn't work on other superior demons only temporarily just to delay them
@@midobasha-xn8ol As you said the spit would work on cell since he isn't in the demon realm or a superior demon. The only reason why piccolo regenerated is because someone else killed Dabura.
@@Light_VIP Cell is the superior demon because he has Piccolo's DNA Piccolo was the original demon king before he left the demon world Piccolo can use the Mafuba which is much stronger than the spit but unlike Dabura he doesn't rely on cowardly techniques Piccolo doesn't like lowly madoshis Right now.. Orange Piccolo can squash Dabura like a bug Piccolo is the superior Demon which makes Cell superior to Dabura The stone form wont stop superior demons
@@midobasha-xn8ol ? Demon King Piccolo was a Demon in name only. The Mafuba/Orange piccolo has literally nothing to do with what anyone is talking about. Nothing has been presented to indicate the spit won’t affect Cell.
Dabura's saliva spreads all over the body from multiple points. We see that when the spit lands on Krillin's face the stone was shown spreading across his arms, legs, and the rest of his body in seconds despite never getting spat on in those places.
@@specialnewb9821 Cell doesn't wear clothes though. He's a nudist. That would be his downfall. But if he comes to the fight with clothes on, it'll be a tough call.
@swagr3public74 Aye. It's almost as if he's the ideal life-from composed of genetic information from the universe's most impressive beings bearing traits highly conducive to combat, survival, growth, and adaptation...
@@AndrewAce. Yeah, but Dabura is magical and is from outside the Universe. It's not like Cell has Dabura's DNA so it's possible that Dabura has some advantages over Cell. Dr Gero's DNA samples were from only a small fraction of life in the Universe, so there are potentially stronger characters than Cell.
Cell also has a lot of Saiyan genes... So Zenkai boost makes his roof limitless, like Goku, Gohan and vegeta. This just comes down to whether Dabura can spit on Cell's head before he gets crushed
I believe that Dabura does have some type of regenerative properties because of when Fat Buu gouged out his eyes he seemingly regenerate them when you see him again when he stabbed Fat Buu with a spear. Not on the same level as Piccolo or Cell or Majin Buu, he doesn't just do it instantly, but I do believe that he has some type of regenerative powers.
I really think this is a toss up, but I think the video/comments are underestimating Dabura a bit. I don't think "Cell can rip off parts of his body to avoid being turned to stone" is a foolproof counterplay. In the manga it's not clear how fast the petrification spreads, so depending on that and where it lands or if it gets on BOTH of Cells arms (so he can't rip parts off with his hands), then Cell may not be able to separate the petrified parts before it's too late, especially the first time Dabura uses the spit/before Cell knows what it does. Also, if even tiny bits of saliva will petrify things, then Dabura can probably release spit as a spray (think of a spit take) and get it all over multiple parts of Cell's body at once rather then single loogies. Cell also has a core, and if that'ss turned to stone first, he might not be able to regenerate, though given the manga says the core is in his head and but Cell obviously regenerates from Goku's instant Kamehameha anyways, that's questionable The video also talks a lot about how Cell has the genetic material of genius fighters like Vegeta, Goku, and Piccolo and that could give him a tactical edge, but we don't really see Cell make much use of that combat intuition aside from with him recognizing the flaw of Grade 3 Super Saiyan? He certainly doesn't ever use complex tactics like Piccolo does. Conversely, Dabura seems pretty perceptive and strategic himself: he picks up on Vegeta's anger and wants to use that against Goku, Gohan, and Shin, and quickly picks up on how much of a threat Buu will eventually become even to Babadi. And while we don;t know it for sure, if he's king of the Demon world, he probably has experience with planning and managing things. There's other things I could say about Cell and Dabura and statements which might imply their relative strengths that people seem to be overlooking, but ultimately I think that still all averages out to it being unclear who is stronger. Personally, I hope we see more of Dabura and his abilities in Damia, he and his dad are in the opening, after all!
@@saltysergeant4284 I don't agree with that, really? Even ignoring the spit, Dabura likely ranges from being a bit weaker to a bit stronger then Cell, in theory it should be possible for him (or Cell) to destroy each other with a strong enough ki blast, it's just not particularly likely they'd get such a attack off at one another without countering it with a beam clash.
@@MajoraZ Dabura is nowhere close to Cell, sir. He was barely keeping up with Scholar Gohan, who was MUCH weaker than teen Gohan. He wasn't even a warmup for Goku or Vegeta. He got lucky to have drawn Gohan as his fighter. Cell beat teen Gohan and the only thing that saved him was Vegeta using Big Bang to repay Gohan for jumping in the way. Cell crippled Gohan in one shot. I think you're overestimating Dabura, underestimating Cell, or just arguing to argue. Either way, Cell brutally, and casually, molests, readily.
@@saltysergeant4284 Goku says Dabura is about as strong as Cell, and that's before he actually sees Dabura fight, at which point Goku says Dabura is "way stronger" then he originally thought. I don't nessacarily think Dabura is actually "way stronger" then super perfect cell, since it's possible that Goku was originally comparing him to just Perfect cell, but I think it's fair to say they're about as strong as one another, to be charitable to both sides. I don't know where you're getting the idea that Dabura was "barely" keeping up with Gohan. In the manga's version of the fight, Dabura seems to be winning, AND after that fight, Dabura goes on to tell Babadi that he's still confident he can easily beat Gohan (and Goku and Vegeta, though he's obviously mistaken with that). Even in the anime I got the impression that Dabura never really went all out and was still holding back.
@@Naruku2121 Cell can just cut off whatever part of his body that's turning to stone. Piccolo lowkey might've just been too slow, which is why he got caught lacking
Cell has instant transmission solar flare spirit bomb cell jr's and cell damaged ssj2 Gohan arm with a finger blast in my opinion super perfect cell would eradicate dabura like Thanos snap his fingers and dabura becomes dust if you smell what super perfect cell is cooking!
Genuinely, I feel like Dragon Ball Multiverse provided a pretty accurate depiction of the fight, with Cell winning due to his more varied arsenal of skills and his regeneration. Yeah, sure, Dabura’s spit was dangerous, but Cell could easily sever the affected part of his body or remove his head and regenerate.
If he rips off his stone arm, then his other arm would also start turning to stone since it touched it. Plus regeneration takes a lot of stamina so that gives dabura an advantage
@@ojpickle5923 Piccolo Jr. was able to easily rip off his own arm in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, i double Cell would have much trouble with it. Vegeta demonstrated on Namek that somebody with ki control can suppress their durability, Vegeta suppressed himself to the point where Krillin could nearly kill him to abuse a zenkai, so Cell should have no problem suppressing his durability for an instant, and quickly slashing it off with a chop from his other arm.
@@TomPI9000 nope Geekdom famously stretches out his videos and repeats points over and over (though to be fair this video felt like a return to his best DB videos)
Power wise, I think it's close but I'd have to give it to Cell. I also think that Cell has a much wider variety of techniques and as you mentioned mind sets. It's a fun fight to think about for sure. Whenever the heroes always compare to the previous villain, I always assumed it was the most recent form that appeared. For example, and I know I'm using a dub line here. But in GT when Goku senses General Rildo and compares him to Majinn Buu, I always assumed he was referring to Kid Buu since that's the last form he fought.
@saltysergeant4284 true. Ability wise. I think the best thing Dabura has is the spit. But I feel that Cell can easily learn how to counter it or use regeneration to get around it
@@saltysergeant4284 gohan was ss2 in the whole fight against Dabura & Dabura while fighting him was getting annoyed if anything. Remember ss2 gohan took cell down in 3 punches.
@@travisstatik2573 dabura probably never really had to fight for a long time due to his reputation. Moreover Cell has access to many combat data by default so him having more combat knowledge does make sense.
@@HansWalter-z6c having access to combat knowledge and actually using it is two different things..And if Dabura didn't have any Stamina or training of any sort then how did he learn to adjust his power or even last long enough to even fight Gohan SSJ2 ? When even Cell was getting folded by Gohan but Dabura had him on Ropes and was gonna kill him..Something Cell was never gonna do
If we are watching the show, it looks like 99% of the people in Demon world are pretty weak so I doubt he had to go all out plus, everybody would be scared shitless so he probably never fights except a couple of times
Uhhhh....considering he's apparently never seen anyone as strong as the Z warriors, I wouldn't say it counts for much. He was shocked at Gohan's strength and then even more shocked to find out he wasn't even considered a warmup for Goku or Vegeta. Dabura got lucky by drawing Gohan as his fight. Gohan should have gotten Pui Pui...
Dabura takes this. Goku says that a suppressed Dabura before his meditation is "about the same level" as Cell, Goku IS talking about Cell at his best, it makes zero sense he'd refer to a weaker version. He later says that Dabura is "stronger than he thought he'd be" Meaning he is most likely stronger than Cell. How much more powerful is he then Cell? Not that much I'd wager given the weaker Gohan's preformance against him. I also totally do not agree with Geekdom, there is nothing saying that Sp Cell is on or above SSJ2 Gohan at ANY point. Gohan had used a lot of his energy just fighting Cell and lost more of it when he was injured. SP Cell is likely about 60-70% of Gohan's full SSJ2 power. Goku never says Gohan had extra reserves in the Kamehameha battle he simply thought that Gohan being around 50% was STILL enough to overcome Cell. And it was. Had Gohan at SSJ2 been fresh still like at the beginning of the fight, he would have beaten Super Perfect Cell easily as well. That's just how much stronger Gohan was compared to anyone at this point.
.....when he was severely injured...by just one of Cell's blasts. 😅 Dabura gets molested behind the dumpster, dude. He barely won against Scholar Gohan! 😂😂😂
@saltysergeant4284 What you're saying makes no sense. Yes Gohan was injured, but as we've seen, even ultra strong people can be hurt by mere ray guns if they dont properly use thier Ki to defend themselves, also Gohan had used a lot of Ki fighting up to that point, he wasn't at 100% as it was, plus the emotional damage of losing his father. Gohan rushed in and barely managed to save Vegeta, he didnt defend himself properly and just threw himself in front of Cells blast. Gohan SSJ2 as a teen at 50% of his power was capable of beating Cell. Are you saying Gohan got more than 50% weaker between the sagas? Doubtful. Maybe 20-30% at most. The Gohan that fought Dabura would still beat Cell, though not easily. Goku says a suppressed Dabura is equal to Cell. He later says Dabura is a lot stronger than he thought he'd be. And Vegeta agrees but says "he isn't so strong that we can't beat him." This lines up with Gohans performance against him. Dabura is likely 10-20% stronger than Cell was. All of the dialogue implies that Dabura is indeed stronger than Cell was and Gohans fight further backs that up. Weaker Gohan would be able to beat Cell, but he struggled against Dabura because he and Dabura were likely relatively equal. I know fans don't like it, but all the evidence pretty much proves it to be true. Basically if Teen Gohan is a 10, SP Cell would be like a 5-6, Dabura would be like a 7, and Weaker old Gohan would be like a 6, pushing a 7.
@MrKevin486 Exactly, Dabura easily wins this fight. If you go watch the fight between Gohan and Dabura again, the spit was spreading extremely fast. Gohan had to remove it almost immediately to avoid turning to stone. Cell wouldn't be able to cut off his limbs in that time, let alone teleport away, THEN cut off his limbs. Also, Cell lost the beam clash to an SSJ2 Gohan who only had half of his ki, meaning he would be as strong as SSJ1. Dabura won the fight with an SSJ2 Gohan who did have his full power. Adult Gohan as SSJ2 wouldn't have become weaker than SSJ1 Teen Gohan in that time because there's no proof of that, and that would be making up stuff so that Cell could win. So SSJ2 Teen Gohan > Dabura > SSJ2 Adult Gohan > SSJ1 Teen Gohan > Super Perfect Cell > SSJ1 Adult Gohan
@MrKevin486 what I said made alot more sense than the cope ramble you laid out. Why wasn't Gohan properly channeling his ki? What makes you say that?? He was in the fight. He was ready to take on Cell. Suddenly, he just dropped his ki for no reason to defend Vegeta?? No way anyone buys that. Saying that SSJ2 Scholar is as strong as SSJ2 Teen Gohan is outright absurd. He couldn't even go SSJ2 against Dabura, so that's not even a viable excuse in the first place. What you're putting forth is that SSJ Adult Gohan is stronger than SSJ2 Teen Gohan, which is patently false, even stated by Vegeta.
@MrKevin486 hey, that dude agreed with you, but you know he's wrong. I know you know what you're talking about, even if you're overshooting Dabura's power by a long shot, imo. He thinks the SS multipliers are doubled and Gohan at half strength in SSJ2 would be as strong as SSJ. You ain't gonna call that out because he agreed with you?
Dabura doesn’t know Cell can regenerate so would likely just be standing there confused why Cell just ripped his head off. He wouldn’t spit again at that time because he’d assume he’d won the fight.
How are you going to keep saying Vegeta had nothing to do with Gohan's win against cell?? It's obvious is the manga and anime that Vegeta helps out a lot.
You forgot that cell can’t just spam regeneration whenever he regenerates he burns Ki remember when goku hit him with the warp-K wave and blew up half his body when he regenerated he was powered down a lot and only got bailed out by goku giving him that senzu bean
Imagine if Dr Gero waited a bit and collected Daburas and Buus dna for Cell... They could easily make a new cell even. Like Gero had autonomous drones, computers etc in a backup lab incase things went south. Kinda cheese but I feel like they could do it somehow and it not be lame.
To be honest, I don’t even know why people make this hard! Gohan was way stronger as a kid as SSJ2!! He even Beat Super Perfect Cell with half his Power cut from unexpectedly shielding Vegeta last minute not having his Guard up! Yes, Dabura was toying kinda with Gohan! But he wasn’t too much stronger than Gohan! Which is also why Vegeta got mad because both Vegeta and Goku said this shouldn’t even be a hard fight for him with Goku following up saying the 7years of not training, has completely made Gohan lose his battle sense! Not Vegeta or Goku thought none of them would have to even go really super Saiyan let Alone Super Saiyan for Any of them let Alone Super Saiyan 2! Matter fact, if I remember right, even Vegeta stated that Cell would have given them a harder time! He “says this yall!” Lol so yeah so was definitely Stronger! Oh, and let me add one last major thing! Dabura also had a power up from Babidi’s magic that means he was even weaker really than what we had seen! Lol 😂 so yeahhh
I don't know if you remember Geekdom but we saw in Dragonball Super anime that when Trunks fought Dabura, Dabura tried a loogie barrage against him and Trunks was able to just straight up negate it I guess coating his hands in some sort of ki-shield. The question is whether or not Cell could do something like that, and it seems very reasonable that he could. I'd even bet on him being able to. I don't see him being that far behind Trunks in terms of power, if he's weaker than him at all, so that shouldn't be an issue. Hawk tuah ain't gonna save Dabura here, I'm giving the match to Cell.
I feel like they would treat Dabura's spit like they treat guns and bullets. Something that can catch them off guard, but if they know its coming they can stop or avoid it
My only thought was, either the spit opening. Cell might not let it hit him out of shear pride. If someone spit towards him, his freiza and Vegeta would come out. Lol
Tbh I dont see how Cell recovers from Dabura's spit its not like he can regenerate from stone and Cell is just as egotistical as Vegeta so i think Dabura no diffs
Like Geekdom literally said he’s got instant transmission, he’s not letting it hit him. And he could still regenerate contaminated limbs or whatever he needs to. I say Cell wins mid/high diff
Despite Cell being totally CAPABLE of regenerating, you have to remember that it could severely cut his stamina. For example, after Goku uses his Warp Kamehameha, Cell is missing half of his body. When he regenerates even that much, Goku comments on him losing a lot of energy. If Cell had to essentially decapitate himself, he would lose a TON of energy to do so as well as time since after SSJ2 Gohan also blew him apart with a Kamehameha, Gohan literally sat there and LET HIM REFORM. This means that healing from the neck down would be difficult and if he were just a head, he couldn't avoid an attack or second spit from Dabura. So, yes, he regenerates FASTER than Piccolo, but not fast enough to avoid a death blow and not without the same stamina drain that Piccolo ALSO experiences. Even in DBS, during the tournament of power, the sniper shot off one of Piccolo's arms and it still took him time and quite a bit of energy to regenerate it. Oh, and to your point about the Grade 2 and 3 forms, you bring up when Cell taunted Trunks by doing the same thing, yet he ALSO bulks up like this out of anger against SSJ2 Gohan and tries to hit Gohan. So, while he may KNOW something, he is still capable of making mistakes when he becomes angry. He makes a lot more mistakes when he gets angry, just like any of the other fighters.
Vegeta fired that blast after saying "it's not fear that's holding me back.." with the implication it was pride. After the fight Vegeta says he's not a warrior and will never fight again (because his pride was gone) Of course that became the centerpiece of the Majin/early Buu saga Dbz is beautiful. Always love thinking about these moments
gettin tired of how many times vegeta says he done with his pride. wont fight. goku is number 1... lol but then back tracks. especially in dbs. can we conclude his inferiority to kakarott arc. it better remain goku is number one when toyo finally moves dragonball to EOZ and beyond.
@@ssppeeaarr Goku is Number 1 was a joke. He was about to let go of his pride, but it turned out Goku was choking against Buu and that pissed Vegeta off. At the (revised) end of the manga it even has Vegeta promises once again that he'll beat kakarot, way before GT or Super.
Most of the time Cell regens, he doesn't get a zenkai he just loses energy cause its hard for him to be "near death". So if he regens his way out of the stone spit he'll just be weaker.
@@everettjohnson9374 he definitely got a boost like Gohan did. The rage boost didn't factor into the final beam clash. Swear y'all overrate the rage factor.
Consider Dabura NOT using spit as a projectile. The Demon King could grapple and Bugs Bunny smooch Cell. I don't think Instant Transmission works as an escape if you are in contact with your opponent. It's both hilarious and effective.
Mike fron LSM already proved that Debura's spit doesn't cause one to turn to stone from the point-of-contact. Go back and watch how Krillin & Piccolo turned to stone. They were hit in one spot and then the stone overtook them from multiple points on their bodies. Geekdom is wrong.
If they’re equal in power, I believe Cell wins because he has SOOOO many different techniques and so much fighting knowledge! Most importantly, regeneration and instant transmission give Cell a big advantage!
Conversely, Goku didn't directly feel Super Perfect Cell power. Goku made a very wide assessment so Dabura could either be at Perfect Cell level or Super Perfect Cell level. Vegeta didn't clarify it too.
Normally I would say "Oh I disagree, X character would win" but after watching the video, I don't think your intention was to give a definitive answer. I believe the take away here is that DragonBall is MORE than just 1
There is a few interesting factors we have to consider: Dabura's experience, hes likely thousnads of years old if not millions of years old. He also very likely has access to other magical abilities we havent seen as well, since he wasnt at full power against Gohan, and was severely weakened when Buu was revived. Remember that he gave a significant amount of energy to Babidi to revive Buu. I think Dabura may have a bag of tricks equal or larger than that of Cell's. The one edge i could see for Cell, is the Cell Jrs. Using them as fodder or distractions could certainly allow him to get a win, but they arent very bright, so hard to say.
If Cell didn't die but was only defeated, he would've trained like Vegeta and Goku till they fought again. So he might have trained for the 7years to fight Goku and Vegeta. He might have been stronger than Dabura if they fought
Dabura: "W-what!? B-but how did you survive my Spit Technique!?" Cell: "Because, Dabura, just like the guy I beat up once told me, you're either perfect or you're not me."
It was stated that he absorbed Gokus upgraded cells after exploding, thats why he could use a version of super Sayian and IT of which his cells didn’t have because Gero took the cells before those abilities were learned… not because he seen him do it…he saw him do it a couple of time but he only learned after absorbing his cells
I'm going to add the cell jr reproduction thing on top of what you said. he might just have dabra fight a cell jr or 2 to study him, and the jr itself would give away dabras strategys and powers. at this point he might just be like "meh. you need to earn the privilege of facing me!"
Cell is well aware of the drawbacks of SSJ 3rd Grade as demonstrated in Cell Vs. Trunks but Cell still used Grade 3 (probably out of rage) against SSJ2 Gohan until Gohan made Cell regurgitate Android 18.
While it's true that Cell *might* think to split himself to escape the spit, that is only a trick that would work once. The question is whether Dabura would be able to hit him a second time. Because at that point, regeneration would not save him.
cell being artificial could had LITERAL muscle memory in the sense that he could have memory banks in the muscles so they could remember and replicate the moves at perfection
Dabura is also probably the most well versed character on all things "evil" that we got to see. He's the King of the Demons. Of course he was the first one to realize that Buu was so "evil" that he was a mindless drone to his own anger and would kill him and Babidi if he felt like it. Which, as we know, he later did. Buu killed both of them. Dabura was never actually "under Babidi's control". He was more like Vegeta. He had evil in him but he was in control of it. So, Babidi couldn't make him "lose himself to his darkness". He's already in control of his own inner darkness. It was definitely just a nice power boost that he wanted. Helping Babidi was probably just something fun for him to dig his paws into. He probably gets bored sitting there in the Demon Realm.
Super Perfect Cell was in no way stronger than a pre-injury SSJ2 Gohan. If Gohan is a 1.0 Cell would have been a 0.8 at best. Theres no way Gohan was weaker than SPC, got injured and lost half his power, only to then tap into "reserves" and become stronger than he was before the injury. At best the reserves would get him equal to himself before the injury. In order for Gohan to obliterate Cell the way he did he would have to be a minimum of 2x the power of Super Perfect Cell. Its the only thing that makes logical sense.
Facts! The inclusion of Vegeta backstabbing Cell would otherwise have no meaning to be present in the manga. Gohan was struggling with one arm only and Cell up until the point of the backstab was not in comparison. Goku screaming ''Now!' is because he knows that was the opening they really needed. Now in my eyes Vegeta being there was the counterbalance for Gohan losing his arm. The results would have been the same if Gohan had his two arms and no extra help. There's no hidden reserves, apart from morale boosting.
This is before watching the video btw I feel like something that is forgotten often with this matchup is Dabura has a extra 7 years of training, a Cell that survived the cell games would absolutely destroy Dabura because that Cell would be much stronger than when he was fighting in the Cell games.
If you Google it, it said that Super Perfect Cell was Super Saiyan 2 Cell. Take that what you will. However, honestly it would make sense because when Cell came back after his self-destruction he had the lightning around his aura just like Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. As for Vegeta helping to Gohan taking out Cell. If that is not true and Gohan could overpower Cell anyway, then ok. Honestly Gohan was already stronger than Goku and he first unlocked Super Saiyan 2 and he was an absolute beast, so that makes sense. But Cell had hacks like how his perfect form was still unlocked after detination and how his power was boosted and his regeneration and things like that, because even if he wasn't stronger than Gohan he was still strong enough to damage him when Gohan went to save Vegeta and had his arm damaged. And dispite Gohan being stronger or having the power to take out Cell it was his mindset that held him back when he kept doubting himself and had to be motivated by Goku, but it was that self-doubt that was making him lose because Cell was getting the upper hand, but when Vegeta shot Cell it was that one attack that affected Cell to where Goku told Gohan to unleash everything now, and that is when he won. So Vegeta kind of had a role, but it was mostly Goku and him supporting Gohan in his beam struggle with Cell.
If super perfect cell could damage ssj2 Gohan arm then super perfect cell would lay the smackdown on dabura candy ass and don't listen to geekdom about ssj2 Gohan being way stronger than cell he's a Gohan fanboy and remember cell can sense Gohan ssj2 ki and cell wasn't afraid of ssj2 Gohan therefore I say they were equal or cell was close to Gohan ssj2 power level and that's the bottom line!
Dabura had regenerative abilities too. Remember when fat Buu gouged out both of his eyes and blinded him? When Dabura regained consciousness, both of his eyes were completely healed. So if Dabura could regenerate his destroyed eyes, it stands to reason that he could regenerate other parts of his body as well.
@@sonyx4500 Nah bruh. Go back and watch. Buu DEFINTELY gouged out Dabura's eyes. His eyes were even shown to be closed and BLEEDING afterwards. And after he regained consciousness, his eyes were completely healed.
@sonyx4500 Right. Durable. That’s why he was bleeding like crazy from two CLOSED eyes. Because his eyes were so durable. I’m not about to argue with you, bruh. Go back and watch the scene. Buu gouged out Dabura’s eyes. End of discussion.
I always found it a little stupid how the Supreme Kai never warned them about Daburas ability to turn you into stone, you think that would be something you'd say to the group of fighter you brought to help when you first saw him but I guess for some reason the Supreme Kai didn't know that he had Deborah working for him even though you think that's something a Supreme Kai would be keeping his eye on considering he has the ability to awaken a monster capable of destroying the universe lol
10:50 I think you're giving Cell too much credit. I think Cell is a more skilled fighter than Dabura, but i don't think he is as dangerous of a fighter as Dabura. Dabura, when he did spit, was aiming at the face or the chest. He spit on Krillin's face and Piccolo's chest, showing his accuracy. He would've gotten Gohan mid fight if he didn't have gloves on. And we're talking about Perfect Cell, who doesn't wear gloves and couldn't dodge a kick from Pikkon. I think head to head, with no prior knowledge of each others abilities, Dabura ends the fight quickly vs Cell. There is no love or thirst for battle with Dabura like there is for Cell. Dabura is there to eliminate threats, and provide wisdom to Babidi.
In my head cannon I imagine Cell if alive durring the Buu saga would be insane. With everybody's knowledge of training especially Piccolo and Tien and Freeza's latent potential with the sparring assistance from Cell Jr's he'd be insanely skilled and strong. He simply is perfect. Tien pretty much does nothing but train and Cell has him in his being. I see his progress easily eclipsing 17's
Another thing to consider is how often can Cell regenerate before it starts to be a detriment to his power? His regeneration is based on Namekian regeneration and their power level tends to temporarily decrease every time they regenerate a limb. I mean everyone Perfect Cell fights until Gohan is so much weaker than him that the decrease in power wouldn't matter anyway and Gohan he is so much stronger than Cell even wounded Gohan would have killed him as you said. So let's say Dabura and Super Perfect Cell are relative to each other in everyway with the only thing separating them is their techniques and biology. It is safe to say neither is going to one-shot the other. So it really comes down to can Dabura wear Cell down enough to destroy every cell in Cell's body to come out with a win or will Cell's versatility and arguably superior intellect prevail?
Awesome video. Technically speaking if Cell would fight Dabura that would mean he survived the Cell games and is probably 10x stronger then that level Goku and Vegeta and Buu never awakens and the series ends .
That was Daburas full power. In the anime he meditated for an entire episode and walked out with that red aura. The point of this part of the story is no one realized the Z fighters were as strong as they were as Pui Pui Yakon etc were weak in comparison. Not even the Supreme Kai knew. Super Perfect Cell wins for a list of reasons that I’ll save everyone the time of reading.
Video comes down to upscaling cells intelligence despite him doing stupid things, and downplaying Dabura. They say Dabura is relative to cell, and then say after he uses magic they actually underestimated his strength. Pretty blatant they’re saying he’s stronger than cell
@Geekdom101 Since you did this topic could you do another video on expanding on this topic by including all of the characters that are in similar ranges of power, a who wins between Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, DBZ Movie 8 and 10 Broly, and Bojak?
Cell: You may be a Demon King, but you're not "Perfect."
Cell is the true demon king because he has Piccolo's DNA, Dabura and Abura were servants for Piccolo's father kattatsu as he was stronger than super buu and he was able to tap into his orange form, Dabura is only that strong because of babidi's magic he's much weaker than all the saiyans
idk always felt cell kinda cheap cuz he had to borrow so many other characters dna and body...
he cant be perfect by himself. just an imperfect insect. 😔
lol but will always be one of the goats in db.
@@ssppeeaarrto be fair dabura isnt all natural either he has majin boost from babidi so imo cell is still stronger normally
Read that in his voice 😂
Piccolo can grow giant
In his giant form he is unstoppable against all the other demons he can't turn to stone and he gians massive power
all the green demons could turn to giants which made the other demons afraid except Neva he tried to rule them
Dabura is cool but Cell is Super perfect...
I hate/like you. Can't decide.😅
whos cooler 😂
I heard it in his voice to when I read it
Yeah but who’s much cooler ?
Cooler 🤓
Check out his perfect form. It’s perfect.
Reporter: How are you planning on beating Cell?
Dabura: Hawk Tuah spit on that thang!
lol this genuinely made me laugh
Hawk tuah this hawk tuah that , how about u tawk tuah woman
Dabura was chopped up by trunks
Cell one shots Dabura
A new Classic 😂
@@ThoughtsOfTheHumanMindme too 😂
If piccolo wasn’t fast thinking enough to dismember himself and survive Dabura spit then I would assume cell wouldn’t survive it either. This is assuming cell doesn’t know about it ahead of time, and there is no reason why he would.
He would still eventually break and regenerate, in the demon realm that technique doesn't work on other superior demons only temporarily just to delay them
@@midobasha-xn8ol As you said the spit would work on cell since he isn't in the demon realm or a superior demon. The only reason why piccolo regenerated is because someone else killed Dabura.
@@Light_VIP Cell is the superior demon because he has Piccolo's DNA
Piccolo was the original demon king before he left the demon world
Piccolo can use the Mafuba which is much stronger than the spit but unlike Dabura he doesn't rely on cowardly techniques
Piccolo doesn't like lowly madoshis
Right now.. Orange Piccolo can squash Dabura like a bug
Piccolo is the superior Demon
which makes Cell superior to Dabura
The stone form wont stop superior demons
@@Light_VIP Cell can use the "Devil drill beam" he can drill into Dabura easily
@@midobasha-xn8ol ? Demon King Piccolo was a Demon in name only. The Mafuba/Orange piccolo has literally nothing to do with what anyone is talking about.
Nothing has been presented to indicate the spit won’t affect Cell.
Dabura's saliva spreads all over the body from multiple points. We see that when the spit lands on Krillin's face the stone was shown spreading across his arms, legs, and the rest of his body in seconds despite never getting spat on in those places.
You forgot Cell can regenerate like Piccolo. He’s got to just rip the limb that has been affected
@christophermichaelclarence6003 Doesn't matter. There's nothing to regenerate from when everything is stone.
Nailed it. I stated the same thing as I saw it brought up on another UA-cam channel.
Geekdom is wrong.
And yet Gohan can stop it by removing his glove.
@@specialnewb9821 Cell doesn't wear clothes though. He's a nudist. That would be his downfall. But if he comes to the fight with clothes on, it'll be a tough call.
I give the edge to Cell because of his higher potential and sustainability in battle...
@@AndrewAce. it’s like he’s perfect
@swagr3public74 Aye. It's almost as if he's the ideal life-from composed of genetic information from the universe's most impressive beings bearing traits highly conducive to combat, survival, growth, and adaptation...
@@AndrewAce. Yeah, but Dabura is magical and is from outside the Universe. It's not like Cell has Dabura's DNA so it's possible that Dabura has some advantages over Cell. Dr Gero's DNA samples were from only a small fraction of life in the Universe, so there are potentially stronger characters than Cell.
Cell also has a lot of Saiyan genes... So Zenkai boost makes his roof limitless, like Goku, Gohan and vegeta.
This just comes down to whether Dabura can spit on Cell's head before he gets crushed
@@jayzonedc6474you can’t have advantages over a perfect being like cell
I believe that Dabura does have some type of regenerative properties because of when Fat Buu gouged out his eyes he seemingly regenerate them when you see him again when he stabbed Fat Buu with a spear. Not on the same level as Piccolo or Cell or Majin Buu, he doesn't just do it instantly, but I do believe that he has some type of regenerative powers.
@@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 maybe a little bit of healing magic?
@HansWalter-z6c Yeah, at least something like that because he did have his eyes gouged out and he got them back.
I really think this is a toss up, but I think the video/comments are underestimating Dabura a bit. I don't think "Cell can rip off parts of his body to avoid being turned to stone" is a foolproof counterplay. In the manga it's not clear how fast the petrification spreads, so depending on that and where it lands or if it gets on BOTH of Cells arms (so he can't rip parts off with his hands), then Cell may not be able to separate the petrified parts before it's too late, especially the first time Dabura uses the spit/before Cell knows what it does. Also, if even tiny bits of saliva will petrify things, then Dabura can probably release spit as a spray (think of a spit take) and get it all over multiple parts of Cell's body at once rather then single loogies. Cell also has a core, and if that'ss turned to stone first, he might not be able to regenerate, though given the manga says the core is in his head and but Cell obviously regenerates from Goku's instant Kamehameha anyways, that's questionable
The video also talks a lot about how Cell has the genetic material of genius fighters like Vegeta, Goku, and Piccolo and that could give him a tactical edge, but we don't really see Cell make much use of that combat intuition aside from with him recognizing the flaw of Grade 3 Super Saiyan? He certainly doesn't ever use complex tactics like Piccolo does. Conversely, Dabura seems pretty perceptive and strategic himself: he picks up on Vegeta's anger and wants to use that against Goku, Gohan, and Shin, and quickly picks up on how much of a threat Buu will eventually become even to Babadi. And while we don;t know it for sure, if he's king of the Demon world, he probably has experience with planning and managing things.
There's other things I could say about Cell and Dabura and statements which might imply their relative strengths that people seem to be overlooking, but ultimately I think that still all averages out to it being unclear who is stronger. Personally, I hope we see more of Dabura and his abilities in Damia, he and his dad are in the opening, after all!
Yeah, but the point is that the only way for Dabura TO win is using the spit. Without it, he's not even a close match.
@@saltysergeant4284 I don't agree with that, really? Even ignoring the spit, Dabura likely ranges from being a bit weaker to a bit stronger then Cell, in theory it should be possible for him (or Cell) to destroy each other with a strong enough ki blast, it's just not particularly likely they'd get such a attack off at one another without countering it with a beam clash.
@@MajoraZ Dabura is nowhere close to Cell, sir. He was barely keeping up with Scholar Gohan, who was MUCH weaker than teen Gohan. He wasn't even a warmup for Goku or Vegeta. He got lucky to have drawn Gohan as his fighter. Cell beat teen Gohan and the only thing that saved him was Vegeta using Big Bang to repay Gohan for jumping in the way. Cell crippled Gohan in one shot. I think you're overestimating Dabura, underestimating Cell, or just arguing to argue. Either way, Cell brutally, and casually, molests, readily.
@@saltysergeant4284 Goku says Dabura is about as strong as Cell, and that's before he actually sees Dabura fight, at which point Goku says Dabura is "way stronger" then he originally thought. I don't nessacarily think Dabura is actually "way stronger" then super perfect cell, since it's possible that Goku was originally comparing him to just Perfect cell, but I think it's fair to say they're about as strong as one another, to be charitable to both sides. I don't know where you're getting the idea that Dabura was "barely" keeping up with Gohan. In the manga's version of the fight, Dabura seems to be winning, AND after that fight, Dabura goes on to tell Babadi that he's still confident he can easily beat Gohan (and Goku and Vegeta, though he's obviously mistaken with that). Even in the anime I got the impression that Dabura never really went all out and was still holding back.
Cell would be to ignorant to Dabura’s spit to think fast enough
Before watching imma say cell just for regeneration
Tbf if Cell gets caught lacking he could get done in like Piccolo by Dabura's spit
@@Naruku2121 Cell can just cut off whatever part of his body that's turning to stone. Piccolo lowkey might've just been too slow, which is why he got caught lacking
@@atpr3241 I mean if it lands on Cell's head and he has no knowledge of it at the time it might be the only window Dabura could have.
@@Naruku2121True, but we’ve seen with his fight from Goku. He can regenerate his head easily.
Cell has instant transmission solar flare spirit bomb cell jr's and cell damaged ssj2 Gohan arm with a finger blast in my opinion super perfect cell would eradicate dabura like Thanos snap his fingers and dabura becomes dust if you smell what super perfect cell is cooking!
Genuinely, I feel like Dragon Ball Multiverse provided a pretty accurate depiction of the fight, with Cell winning due to his more varied arsenal of skills and his regeneration. Yeah, sure, Dabura’s spit was dangerous, but Cell could easily sever the affected part of his body or remove his head and regenerate.
If he rips off his stone arm, then his other arm would also start turning to stone since it touched it. Plus regeneration takes a lot of stamina so that gives dabura an advantage
@@ojpickle5923 only if he touches the part already effected, otherwise gohans hand would of turned to stone when he took his glove off
@@ojpickle5923he’d rip it off from a point that wasn’t stone yet.
@@BRITJACKREACT it takes a lot longer to rip a limb off than to take a glove off. The stone would probably spread
@@ojpickle5923 Piccolo Jr. was able to easily rip off his own arm in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, i double Cell would have much trouble with it. Vegeta demonstrated on Namek that somebody with ki control can suppress their durability, Vegeta suppressed himself to the point where Krillin could nearly kill him to abuse a zenkai, so Cell should have no problem suppressing his durability for an instant, and quickly slashing it off with a chop from his other arm.
Anyone else have to watch at 1.5x speed to avoid falling asleep between the beginning and end of a single word he says?
@@jba5211 Your attention spam is too weak.
@@TomPI9000 nope Geekdom famously stretches out his videos and repeats points over and over (though to be fair this video felt like a return to his best DB videos)
@@TomPI9000 nah try 1.25 it sounds like normal talking speed
Vegeta entered the Tournament to fight Gohan, Goku entered the picture later
Power wise, I think it's close but I'd have to give it to Cell. I also think that Cell has a much wider variety of techniques and as you mentioned mind sets. It's a fun fight to think about for sure.
Whenever the heroes always compare to the previous villain, I always assumed it was the most recent form that appeared. For example, and I know I'm using a dub line here. But in GT when Goku senses General Rildo and compares him to Majinn Buu, I always assumed he was referring to Kid Buu since that's the last form he fought.
Yes the weakest form of Buu. No way he was as strong as Super Buu and up.
Power wise, Cell molests, casually. Dabura could barely keep up with Scholar Gohan.
@saltysergeant4284 true. Ability wise. I think the best thing Dabura has is the spit. But I feel that Cell can easily learn how to counter it or use regeneration to get around it
@@saltysergeant4284 gohan was ss2 in the whole fight against Dabura & Dabura while fighting him was getting annoyed if anything. Remember ss2 gohan took cell down in 3 punches.
@Black-ICE92 no, he wasn't. He was only in SSJ. He couldn't even go SSJ2 because of not training, as Vegeta states.
Dabura has been alive for Millions or thousands of years, so how would Super Perfect Cell have more combat knowledge than Dabura?
Exactly! SMH
@@travisstatik2573 dabura probably never really had to fight for a long time due to his reputation.
Moreover Cell has access to many combat data by default so him having more combat knowledge does make sense.
@@HansWalter-z6c having access to combat knowledge and actually using it is two different things..And if Dabura didn't have any Stamina or training of any sort then how did he learn to adjust his power or even last long enough to even fight Gohan SSJ2 ? When even Cell was getting folded by Gohan but Dabura had him on Ropes and was gonna kill him..Something Cell was never gonna do
If we are watching the show, it looks like 99% of the people in Demon world are pretty weak so I doubt he had to go all out plus, everybody would be scared shitless so he probably never fights except a couple of times
Uhhhh....considering he's apparently never seen anyone as strong as the Z warriors, I wouldn't say it counts for much. He was shocked at Gohan's strength and then even more shocked to find out he wasn't even considered a warmup for Goku or Vegeta. Dabura got lucky by drawing Gohan as his fight. Gohan should have gotten Pui Pui...
“Maybe Edged Gohan out a lil tiny bit” 4:20
@@Content_King215 LoL my favorite part 😅
Just basing this on a gut vibe, but I feel like Super Perfect Cell would smoke Dabura.
Regular Perfect Cell molests. No comparison.
Casually. Cell molests behind the dumpster, at will. No contest, outside of the spit cheap shot.
Dabura takes this. Goku says that a suppressed Dabura before his meditation is "about the same level" as Cell, Goku IS talking about Cell at his best, it makes zero sense he'd refer to a weaker version. He later says that Dabura is "stronger than he thought he'd be" Meaning he is most likely stronger than Cell. How much more powerful is he then Cell? Not that much I'd wager given the weaker Gohan's preformance against him. I also totally do not agree with Geekdom, there is nothing saying that Sp Cell is on or above SSJ2 Gohan at ANY point. Gohan had used a lot of his energy just fighting Cell and lost more of it when he was injured. SP Cell is likely about 60-70% of Gohan's full SSJ2 power. Goku never says Gohan had extra reserves in the Kamehameha battle he simply thought that Gohan being around 50% was STILL enough to overcome Cell. And it was. Had Gohan at SSJ2 been fresh still like at the beginning of the fight, he would have beaten Super Perfect Cell easily as well. That's just how much stronger Gohan was compared to anyone at this point.
.....when he was severely injured...by just one of Cell's blasts. 😅 Dabura gets molested behind the dumpster, dude. He barely won against Scholar Gohan! 😂😂😂
@saltysergeant4284 What you're saying makes no sense. Yes Gohan was injured, but as we've seen, even ultra strong people can be hurt by mere ray guns if they dont properly use thier Ki to defend themselves, also Gohan had used a lot of Ki fighting up to that point, he wasn't at 100% as it was, plus the emotional damage of losing his father. Gohan rushed in and barely managed to save Vegeta, he didnt defend himself properly and just threw himself in front of Cells blast. Gohan SSJ2 as a teen at 50% of his power was capable of beating Cell. Are you saying Gohan got more than 50% weaker between the sagas? Doubtful. Maybe 20-30% at most. The Gohan that fought Dabura would still beat Cell, though not easily. Goku says a suppressed Dabura is equal to Cell. He later says Dabura is a lot stronger than he thought he'd be. And Vegeta agrees but says "he isn't so strong that we can't beat him." This lines up with Gohans performance against him. Dabura is likely 10-20% stronger than Cell was. All of the dialogue implies that Dabura is indeed stronger than Cell was and Gohans fight further backs that up. Weaker Gohan would be able to beat Cell, but he struggled against Dabura because he and Dabura were likely relatively equal. I know fans don't like it, but all the evidence pretty much proves it to be true. Basically if Teen Gohan is a 10, SP Cell would be like a 5-6, Dabura would be like a 7, and Weaker old Gohan would be like a 6, pushing a 7.
@MrKevin486 Exactly, Dabura easily wins this fight. If you go watch the fight between Gohan and Dabura again, the spit was spreading extremely fast. Gohan had to remove it almost immediately to avoid turning to stone. Cell wouldn't be able to cut off his limbs in that time, let alone teleport away, THEN cut off his limbs. Also, Cell lost the beam clash to an SSJ2 Gohan who only had half of his ki, meaning he would be as strong as SSJ1. Dabura won the fight with an SSJ2 Gohan who did have his full power. Adult Gohan as SSJ2 wouldn't have become weaker than SSJ1 Teen Gohan in that time because there's no proof of that, and that would be making up stuff so that Cell could win. So SSJ2 Teen Gohan > Dabura > SSJ2 Adult Gohan > SSJ1 Teen Gohan > Super Perfect Cell > SSJ1 Adult Gohan
@MrKevin486 what I said made alot more sense than the cope ramble you laid out. Why wasn't Gohan properly channeling his ki? What makes you say that?? He was in the fight. He was ready to take on Cell. Suddenly, he just dropped his ki for no reason to defend Vegeta?? No way anyone buys that. Saying that SSJ2 Scholar is as strong as SSJ2 Teen Gohan is outright absurd. He couldn't even go SSJ2 against Dabura, so that's not even a viable excuse in the first place. What you're putting forth is that SSJ Adult Gohan is stronger than SSJ2 Teen Gohan, which is patently false, even stated by Vegeta.
@MrKevin486 hey, that dude agreed with you, but you know he's wrong. I know you know what you're talking about, even if you're overshooting Dabura's power by a long shot, imo. He thinks the SS multipliers are doubled and Gohan at half strength in SSJ2 would be as strong as SSJ. You ain't gonna call that out because he agreed with you?
9:44 but what’s stopping Dabura from spitting on his bodyless head?
Dabura doesn’t know Cell can regenerate so would likely just be standing there confused why Cell just ripped his head off. He wouldn’t spit again at that time because he’d assume he’d won the fight.
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I agree with everything except that "we never saw dabura at full power" he literally meditated before fighting gohan to get maxed out.
And then powered up to his full power during the fight lol
I appreciate the perspective Geekodom! Great video
Ima have to go with super cell he gave kid gohan a run for his money at the ending while if gohan had kept training Dabura would have been childs play
How are you going to keep saying Vegeta had nothing to do with Gohan's win against cell?? It's obvious is the manga and anime that Vegeta helps out a lot.
You forgot that cell can’t just spam regeneration whenever he regenerates he burns Ki remember when goku hit him with the warp-K wave and blew up half his body when he regenerated he was powered down a lot and only got bailed out by goku giving him that senzu bean
Beginning of Buu Saga SSJ2 Vegeta (non-Majin) vs Cell Saga SSJ2 Gohan. Now that would be a great fight!
Imagine if Dr Gero waited a bit and collected Daburas and Buus dna for Cell...
They could easily make a new cell even. Like Gero had autonomous drones, computers etc in a backup lab incase things went south. Kinda cheese but I feel like they could do it somehow and it not be lame.
that kinda happened in fightersZ with that android waifu character...
To be honest, I don’t even know why people make this hard! Gohan was way stronger as a kid as SSJ2!! He even Beat Super Perfect Cell with half his Power cut from unexpectedly shielding Vegeta last minute not having his Guard up! Yes, Dabura was toying kinda with Gohan! But he wasn’t too much stronger than Gohan! Which is also why Vegeta got mad because both Vegeta and Goku said this shouldn’t even be a hard fight for him with Goku following up saying the 7years of not training, has completely made Gohan lose his battle sense! Not Vegeta or Goku thought none of them would have to even go really super Saiyan let Alone Super Saiyan for Any of them let Alone Super Saiyan 2! Matter fact, if I remember right, even Vegeta stated that Cell would have given them a harder time! He “says this yall!” Lol so yeah so was definitely Stronger! Oh, and let me add one last major thing! Dabura also had a power up from Babidi’s magic that means he was even weaker really than what we had seen! Lol 😂 so yeahhh
I don't know if you remember Geekdom but we saw in Dragonball Super anime that when Trunks fought Dabura, Dabura tried a loogie barrage against him and Trunks was able to just straight up negate it I guess coating his hands in some sort of ki-shield. The question is whether or not Cell could do something like that, and it seems very reasonable that he could. I'd even bet on him being able to. I don't see him being that far behind Trunks in terms of power, if he's weaker than him at all, so that shouldn't be an issue. Hawk tuah ain't gonna save Dabura here, I'm giving the match to Cell.
I feel like they would treat Dabura's spit like they treat guns and bullets. Something that can catch them off guard, but if they know its coming they can stop or avoid it
A close match against cell is a perfect scenario for him. Thats a zenkai boost waiting to happen.
My only thought was, either the spit opening. Cell might not let it hit him out of shear pride. If someone spit towards him, his freiza and Vegeta would come out. Lol
Cell could make Cell Juniors, he has the Perfect barrier, and he could do the tri clone technique, as well.
this was a super fun video. id love to see more of these. :D
Tbh I dont see how Cell recovers from Dabura's spit its not like he can regenerate from stone and Cell is just as egotistical as Vegeta so i think Dabura no diffs
9:42 the problem with that is that Dabura's spit isn't shown to be a slow process it's incases the opponent neigh instantly.
Especially if Dabura plays possum and spits directly down his throat lol 😂 😅😂
@loriswilliams5481 bruh dafuq 😅
Like Geekdom literally said he’s got instant transmission, he’s not letting it hit him. And he could still regenerate contaminated limbs or whatever he needs to. I say Cell wins mid/high diff
I mean depending where he got spit on he could just blow off a limb or piece of his body and regenerate it
Despite Cell being totally CAPABLE of regenerating, you have to remember that it could severely cut his stamina. For example, after Goku uses his Warp Kamehameha, Cell is missing half of his body. When he regenerates even that much, Goku comments on him losing a lot of energy. If Cell had to essentially decapitate himself, he would lose a TON of energy to do so as well as time since after SSJ2 Gohan also blew him apart with a Kamehameha, Gohan literally sat there and LET HIM REFORM. This means that healing from the neck down would be difficult and if he were just a head, he couldn't avoid an attack or second spit from Dabura. So, yes, he regenerates FASTER than Piccolo, but not fast enough to avoid a death blow and not without the same stamina drain that Piccolo ALSO experiences. Even in DBS, during the tournament of power, the sniper shot off one of Piccolo's arms and it still took him time and quite a bit of energy to regenerate it.
Oh, and to your point about the Grade 2 and 3 forms, you bring up when Cell taunted Trunks by doing the same thing, yet he ALSO bulks up like this out of anger against SSJ2 Gohan and tries to hit Gohan. So, while he may KNOW something, he is still capable of making mistakes when he becomes angry. He makes a lot more mistakes when he gets angry, just like any of the other fighters.
Yea Cell's regen isnt OP, like Buu's regen hax. Cell uses up energy and stamina when he regens. Fight would be a stalemate imo.
Vegeta fired that blast after saying "it's not fear that's holding me back.." with the implication it was pride. After the fight Vegeta says he's not a warrior and will never fight again (because his pride was gone)
Of course that became the centerpiece of the Majin/early Buu saga
Dbz is beautiful. Always love thinking about these moments
gettin tired of how many times vegeta says he done with his pride. wont fight. goku is number 1...
lol but then back tracks. especially in dbs. can we conclude his inferiority to kakarott arc.
it better remain goku is number one when toyo finally moves dragonball to EOZ and beyond.
@@ssppeeaarr Goku is Number 1 was a joke. He was about to let go of his pride, but it turned out Goku was choking against Buu and that pissed Vegeta off.
At the (revised) end of the manga it even has Vegeta promises once again that he'll beat kakarot, way before GT or Super.
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Most of the time Cell regens, he doesn't get a zenkai he just loses energy cause its hard for him to be "near death". So if he regens his way out of the stone spit he'll just be weaker.
Dabura might have a slight power advantage over Super Perfect Cell, but Super Perfect Cell is perfect. Super Perfect Cell wins.
dabura has a majin boost. without it, 100% sure cell takes it
I think this us a much clearer and better thought out video on this matchup than any I've seen up to this point.
Great video great breakdown I love to see more of these
As once the prince of all saiyans and super perfect being said "your are either perfect or you are not me".
Dabura: “Spit technique”
Hawktuah Girl: “Hawktuah put some spit on that thang”
Super perfect cell got the same boost as ssj2 gohan and had all the fighters cells no pun intended. Cells mollywoppin him
He got a boost but not like gohan, Gohan not only got ssj2 but his hidden power boosted him further
Absolutely not Cell was begging for his life literally optd to glazing Vageta just to absorb 18 to get perfection & get slammed by Baby Gohan😂
Exactly, Cell destroys Dabura.
@@1of1MaccSauce omg pick up a book and actually read it.
@@everettjohnson9374 he definitely got a boost like Gohan did.
The rage boost didn't factor into the final beam clash. Swear y'all overrate the rage factor.
Wasn't Future Trunks casually blocking Majin Dabura's spit with his bare hands in Dragon Ball Super anime??
Yeah That's right and Goku Black was Watching That fight Image If he Jumped In early
Consider Dabura NOT using spit as a projectile. The Demon King could grapple and Bugs Bunny smooch Cell. I don't think Instant Transmission works as an escape if you are in contact with your opponent. It's both hilarious and effective.
Mike fron LSM already proved that Debura's spit doesn't cause one to turn to stone from the point-of-contact. Go back and watch how Krillin & Piccolo turned to stone. They were hit in one spot and then the stone overtook them from multiple points on their bodies.
Geekdom is wrong.
If they’re equal in power, I believe Cell wins because he has SOOOO many different techniques and so much fighting knowledge! Most importantly, regeneration and instant transmission give Cell a big advantage!
Conversely, Goku didn't directly feel Super Perfect Cell power. Goku made a very wide assessment so Dabura could either be at Perfect Cell level or Super Perfect Cell level. Vegeta didn't clarify it too.
Normally I would say "Oh I disagree, X character would win" but after watching the video, I don't think your intention was to give a definitive answer. I believe the take away here is that DragonBall is MORE than just 1
Geekdom I’m loving the content bro!
Thank you!
There is a few interesting factors we have to consider: Dabura's experience, hes likely thousnads of years old if not millions of years old. He also very likely has access to other magical abilities we havent seen as well, since he wasnt at full power against Gohan, and was severely weakened when Buu was revived. Remember that he gave a significant amount of energy to Babidi to revive Buu. I think Dabura may have a bag of tricks equal or larger than that of Cell's. The one edge i could see for Cell, is the Cell Jrs. Using them as fodder or distractions could certainly allow him to get a win, but they arent very bright, so hard to say.
Gotta watch out for that spit, but Cell I feel has way more weapons than Dabura, and he gets Zenkai Boosts
Man that outro gives me straight nostalgia I need to find the full track.
If Cell didn't die but was only defeated, he would've trained like Vegeta and Goku till they fought again. So he might have trained for the 7years to fight Goku and Vegeta. He might have been stronger than Dabura if they fought
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The movies lead into gt, and are their own separate continuity.
The cpu part is really overlooked.
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2:51 "Goku insured him" lol, Goku the insurance salesman; Chichi must be so proud.
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You're either Perfect, or you're not me.
These videos are the best kind.
I want to see a cameo of dabura in heaven planting flowers
Cell, it was stated by Goku and Vegeta that he was stronger as a kid, whilst being equal with Dabura.
Dabura: "W-what!? B-but how did you survive my Spit Technique!?"
Cell: "Because, Dabura, just like the guy I beat up once told me, you're either perfect or you're not me."
Cell all the way bro i remember you saying this before to.
Cell wins because future Trunks beats Dabura
Super Perfect Cell would win quite comfortably. Dabura had trouble with a rusty Gohan.
And Gohan still seemed to be stronger, it’s just he had lost his fighting sense.
was gohan ssj1 or 2? manga never mentions it, and goku never openly states which form of cell he was referring to. gotta love the potholes of dbz 😂
It was stated that he absorbed Gokus upgraded cells after exploding, thats why he could use a version of super Sayian and IT of which his cells didn’t have because Gero took the cells before those abilities were learned… not because he seen him do it…he saw him do it a couple of time but he only learned after absorbing his cells
I'm going to add the cell jr reproduction thing on top of what you said.
he might just have dabra fight a cell jr or 2 to study him, and the jr itself would give away dabras strategys and powers.
at this point he might just be like "meh. you need to earn the privilege of facing me!"
Cell is well aware of the drawbacks of SSJ 3rd Grade as demonstrated in Cell Vs. Trunks but Cell still used Grade 3 (probably out of rage) against SSJ2 Gohan until Gohan made Cell regurgitate Android 18.
11:57 I could see Dabura spitting in his face in a moment like this.
Good video!
While it's true that Cell *might* think to split himself to escape the spit, that is only a trick that would work once.
The question is whether Dabura would be able to hit him a second time. Because at that point, regeneration would not save him.
cell being artificial could had LITERAL muscle memory in the sense that he could have memory banks in the muscles so they could remember and replicate the moves at perfection
Dabura is also probably the most well versed character on all things "evil" that we got to see. He's the King of the Demons.
Of course he was the first one to realize that Buu was so "evil" that he was a mindless drone to his own anger and would kill him and Babidi if he felt like it. Which, as we know, he later did. Buu killed both of them.
Dabura was never actually "under Babidi's control". He was more like Vegeta. He had evil in him but he was in control of it. So, Babidi couldn't make him "lose himself to his darkness". He's already in control of his own inner darkness. It was definitely just a nice power boost that he wanted. Helping Babidi was probably just something fun for him to dig his paws into.
He probably gets bored sitting there in the Demon Realm.
Please do (Post Wish) Gas vs Moro-73.
Super Perfect Cell was in no way stronger than a pre-injury SSJ2 Gohan. If Gohan is a 1.0 Cell would have been a 0.8 at best. Theres no way Gohan was weaker than SPC, got injured and lost half his power, only to then tap into "reserves" and become stronger than he was before the injury. At best the reserves would get him equal to himself before the injury.
In order for Gohan to obliterate Cell the way he did he would have to be a minimum of 2x the power of Super Perfect Cell. Its the only thing that makes logical sense.
Facts! The inclusion of Vegeta backstabbing Cell would otherwise have no meaning to be present in the manga. Gohan was struggling with one arm only and Cell up until the point of the backstab was not in comparison. Goku screaming ''Now!' is because he knows that was the opening they really needed. Now in my eyes Vegeta being there was the counterbalance for Gohan losing his arm. The results would have been the same if Gohan had his two arms and no extra help. There's no hidden reserves, apart from morale boosting.
This is before watching the video btw
I feel like something that is forgotten often with this matchup is Dabura has a extra 7 years of training, a Cell that survived the cell games would absolutely destroy Dabura because that Cell would be much stronger than when he was fighting in the Cell games.
If you Google it, it said that Super Perfect Cell was Super Saiyan 2 Cell. Take that what you will. However, honestly it would make sense because when Cell came back after his self-destruction he had the lightning around his aura just like Super Saiyan 2 Gohan.
As for Vegeta helping to Gohan taking out Cell. If that is not true and Gohan could overpower Cell anyway, then ok. Honestly Gohan was already stronger than Goku and he first unlocked Super Saiyan 2 and he was an absolute beast, so that makes sense. But Cell had hacks like how his perfect form was still unlocked after detination and how his power was boosted and his regeneration and things like that, because even if he wasn't stronger than Gohan he was still strong enough to damage him when Gohan went to save Vegeta and had his arm damaged. And dispite Gohan being stronger or having the power to take out Cell it was his mindset that held him back when he kept doubting himself and had to be motivated by Goku, but it was that self-doubt that was making him lose because Cell was getting the upper hand, but when Vegeta shot Cell it was that one attack that affected Cell to where Goku told Gohan to unleash everything now, and that is when he won. So Vegeta kind of had a role, but it was mostly Goku and him supporting Gohan in his beam struggle with Cell.
If super perfect cell could damage ssj2 Gohan arm then super perfect cell would lay the smackdown on dabura candy ass and don't listen to geekdom about ssj2 Gohan being way stronger than cell he's a Gohan fanboy and remember cell can sense Gohan ssj2 ki and cell wasn't afraid of ssj2 Gohan therefore I say they were equal or cell was close to Gohan ssj2 power level and that's the bottom line!
So basically he is perfect
ya it was like some superman scenario...
he didnt believe in his power. n sad he let his father get deleted.
Dabura had regenerative abilities too. Remember when fat Buu gouged out both of his eyes and blinded him? When Dabura regained consciousness, both of his eyes were completely healed. So if Dabura could regenerate his destroyed eyes, it stands to reason that he could regenerate other parts of his body as well.
He didn't gouged them out. Just injured his eyes temporarily.
@@sonyx4500 Nah bruh. Go back and watch. Buu DEFINTELY gouged out Dabura's eyes. His eyes were even shown to be closed and BLEEDING afterwards. And after he regained consciousness, his eyes were completely healed.
@@cinemasaviors9464 His eyes were still in their socket. He was temporarily blinded. Dabura is just very durable.
@sonyx4500
Right. Durable. That’s why he was bleeding like crazy from two CLOSED eyes. Because his eyes were so durable. I’m not about to argue with you, bruh. Go back and watch the scene. Buu gouged out Dabura’s eyes. End of discussion.
@@cinemasaviors9464 Durable yes. But he didn't heal them. All his wounds and blood were still visible. He had no Regeneration ability.
do a z broly from second coming movie vs super perfect cell or dabura or bojack.
The final boss vs the mini boss in the sequel
I always found it a little stupid how the Supreme Kai never warned them about Daburas ability to turn you into stone, you think that would be something you'd say to the group of fighter you brought to help when you first saw him but I guess for some reason the Supreme Kai didn't know that he had Deborah working for him even though you think that's something a Supreme Kai would be keeping his eye on considering he has the ability to awaken a monster capable of destroying the universe lol
"Maybe cell *edged* Gohan out a little bit."
Zarbon: *Oh-ho!*
10:50 I think you're giving Cell too much credit. I think Cell is a more skilled fighter than Dabura, but i don't think he is as dangerous of a fighter as Dabura.
Dabura, when he did spit, was aiming at the face or the chest. He spit on Krillin's face and Piccolo's chest, showing his accuracy. He would've gotten Gohan mid fight if he didn't have gloves on. And we're talking about Perfect Cell, who doesn't wear gloves and couldn't dodge a kick from Pikkon.
I think head to head, with no prior knowledge of each others abilities, Dabura ends the fight quickly vs Cell. There is no love or thirst for battle with Dabura like there is for Cell. Dabura is there to eliminate threats, and provide wisdom to Babidi.
CPU? Cell is entirely organic lol, you make it sound like he's a straight up robot
How about Mystic Gohan Vs Super Saiyan 3 Goku ?
Who is the strongest?
Mystic Gohan
@@Oni64power level scaler🎉
@@tlamelokgosimalebe3119 This question has been answered. Its Mistic Gohan thats stronger.
In my head cannon I imagine Cell if alive durring the Buu saga would be insane. With everybody's knowledge of training especially Piccolo and Tien and Freeza's latent potential with the sparring assistance from Cell Jr's he'd be insanely skilled and strong. He simply is perfect. Tien pretty much does nothing but train and Cell has him in his being. I see his progress easily eclipsing 17's
No lies were spoken in this video.
LOOK AT MY PERFECT FORM
It’s…perfect!
Trunks vs cell maybe win if fight like piccolo vs 17 ?
Another thing to consider is how often can Cell regenerate before it starts to be a detriment to his power? His regeneration is based on Namekian regeneration and their power level tends to temporarily decrease every time they regenerate a limb. I mean everyone Perfect Cell fights until Gohan is so much weaker than him that the decrease in power wouldn't matter anyway and Gohan he is so much stronger than Cell even wounded Gohan would have killed him as you said.
So let's say Dabura and Super Perfect Cell are relative to each other in everyway with the only thing separating them is their techniques and biology. It is safe to say neither is going to one-shot the other. So it really comes down to can Dabura wear Cell down enough to destroy every cell in Cell's body to come out with a win or will Cell's versatility and arguably superior intellect prevail?
Awesome video. Technically speaking if Cell would fight Dabura that would mean he survived the Cell games and is probably 10x stronger then that level Goku and Vegeta and Buu never awakens and the series ends .
cell only needs to do 10 pushups to obtain his golden form
That was Daburas full power. In the anime he meditated for an entire episode and walked out with that red aura. The point of this part of the story is no one realized the Z fighters were as strong as they were as Pui Pui Yakon etc were weak in comparison. Not even the Supreme Kai knew. Super Perfect Cell wins for a list of reasons that I’ll save everyone the time of reading.
Video comes down to upscaling cells intelligence despite him doing stupid things, and downplaying Dabura. They say Dabura is relative to cell, and then say after he uses magic they actually underestimated his strength. Pretty blatant they’re saying he’s stronger than cell
This make my day
@Geekdom101 Since you did this topic could you do another video on expanding on this topic by including all of the characters that are in similar ranges of power, a who wins between Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, DBZ Movie 8 and 10 Broly, and Bojak?