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Hey ray, what is the text you would use for God gives all people a freewill ? I totally agree, I am a provisionist and this text that you would point to, would give more evidence against the calvinistic side who says freewill is an illusion.
@@joshuawoodin you have the freedom to do whatever it is in your will to do. And your will is in bondage to sin, doing only evil continually. Only upon God converting the will do you believe
I was sitting on my bed and had just shut my laptop and went into a vision. I was in front of a judge I was looking up at him as he was very high up, he suddenly slammed down his gauntlet and yelled GUILTY! With no argument I turned with my head down to walk towards my fate and out of the corner of my eye I saw a bright light when I looked up, I saw Jesus with His arms outstretched and a huge smile on His face. I knew He was there to save me.💗
@@2l84me8the 10 commandments are God’s moral law and we all have broken that law. We are all guilty and deserve hell. No one is good enough…no one is good but God. This is why Jesus died on the cross. He paid the price so we don’t have to. All we need to do is turn away from sin and put our faith and trust into Jesus. The only way to heaven is through Jesus. He is the only one that can save us from this sinful life.
In Ephesians Paul uses slavery as a metaphor to describe the human condition, with the choice of being a slave to sin or to God. He believed that slavery is an inevitable part of human existence, and that becoming a slave means giving up status. Paul also identified himself and good Christians as slaves of God, and gave slaves control over their own salvation.
@@sallylara1102 it's not a metaphor it's a literal condition. A slave does not get to decide what to do for himself but must do what someone else tells him
This format works well! Praying for all those hurt by slavery to know the Savior who sets all men free who repent and place their lives in Christ! No truer words “I needed this”.
You mean the same that endorses slavery and gave the Israelitics instructions on how to buy slaves and own them as property. Leviticus 25: 44-46 And that slave masters can physically abuse slaves as long as they survive within 1-2 days. Exodus 21:20-21
Well the abolitionists that fought to eradicate slavery were mostly Christians so I guess the Bible must be open to interpretation to have such drastically opposing views 😉
I probably don't have an accurate or biblical answer but what comes to mind is 'Render unto Ceasar' and 'the god (small g) of this world has blinded'. Like Daniel and Joseph, Christians exist and live within a world system at any given time. These systems aren't typically controlled by Christians, no matter how much they'd like to believe they do. Whether people like it or not, true believers would probably not treat slaves as merely animals or property but as fellow image bearers. These world systems on the other hand, would probably just recapture a freed slave and resell them to a new master. If you really think about it, a righteous master would be the safest place for such persons to stay with. They would be protected from the larger society (civilization). Just a personal opinion though.
Typical atheist whining 🍼🍼🍼 waaah. From one whose only concern is to blaspheme others for ridiculous actions attributed to God who you hate. So theres nothing that he does that's right according to atheist logic. Exodus chapter 21:16 Expressly declares that kidnap of another human ( Mr humanist 😂 ) for the express purpose of selling or holding in ones possession is worth of the Death penalty. Go whine somewhere else.
At 14:08, the young man in the video shows a misunderstanding of what love is as do many people nowadays. Love is not a feeling, it's not something that you can fall into like a cow pie. It is a decision like God's decision to create and then to love us. But I love his response to Ray's gentle witness.
@@tituslaird1265 "That is entirely the point. Your definition of chattel slavery is not the Biblical definition or description of slavery." Bzzzz! Sorry bucko. You lose again. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
@@2l84me8He doesn’t need servants, he can make rocks do his will if he wants. Luke 19:40 But because he loves people enough that he would die for them, he sends out his people who have been eternally blessed with everlasting life to reflect his love, the church (all believers) to be a witness to the whole world. God doesn’t wish that anyone should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2nd Peter 3:9 I don’t entirely know the in’s and out’s to God’s reason why he’d use people as flawed as Noah, who got drunk, Abraham, who slept with his wife’s maid, Moses, who killed a man, David, who had committed adultery and murdered the adulteress’s husband, and many other people. But it really goes to show how patience and merciful he is, he came on this earth to die for his enemies. But God, though patient, will still have his day of justice. Those hypocrites who are just looking to get your money will get what they deserve, but same thing as liars, thieves, blasphemers, adulterers, murderers, and fornicators. There will not be a soul that will be innocent, so get right with God otherwise you’ll face the same fate as those money grabbing preachers.
Jon McCray ("Whaddo You Meme??" is his channel name here on UA-cam) also did a great series digging into the topic of slavery and the Bible, too. Highly recommend looking that up, for any reading. --- Thanks for this!
When will people stop asking God why he didn't stop this and stop that. When are people going to thank God for the air they breathe, the sun, the rain, the food, and more importantly coming down on this sinful planet and dying to give us a chance to be forgiven for our sins and have the hope to have eternal life
@@Matt-y1l You can't blame God for what people do to children or anyone else. If you did something wrong, should others get the blame also? These people will be punished for their actions unless they come to Jesus and ask for forgiveness.
@@DaveBoswell-lz3kc Mike Wallace was not an ancient Semite any more than Hitler was. And ancient Semites were all shades of brown just as Japhethites were.
@@christisking777 Wallace tried to discredit everything Morgan Freeman said because: A.) It didn’t agree with the Marxist CBS mantra of progressive racism and… B.) He was claiming that he wasn’t White even though it’s plain to see that he was.
In Ephesians Paul uses slavery as a metaphor to describe the human condition, with the choice of being a slave to sin or to God. He believed that slavery is an inevitable part of human existence, and that becoming a slave means giving up status. Paul also identified himself and good Christians as slaves of God, and gave slaves control over their own salvation.
You got me when you said ريمون 😂😂😂 I'm iraqi, and may cousin's name is Remoon . Regardless of the term of SLAVERY , we should first admit that we are slaves to the devil, but by God's grace, we've been saved. As long as people blame God, not Satan, for all the bad things ,they will be far from truth . God bless you all living waters ❤
May God bless for this ministry,and all of you those who involved to keep souls for Jesus from the darkness. I really Love the way you guys ministering to people, Jesus Giving you wisdom.
This is a great video, thanks for posting guys! I do wish though you had addressed specifically Lev 25:44-46 which is talking about non Israelites and God allowing them to be kept as slaves 'permanently' and as 'property' vs Israelite 'slaves' who were to be released after a certain amount of time or in the year of jubilee. This is a passage I've often wondered about.
@CP-dk8oi Christian that doesn’t want to explain it. Meaning a teacher someone who’s going to teach. That’s why I’m referring to people like in the video who are teaching other people
It’s about sojourners (those of foreign ancestry passing through Israel or temporarily dwelling there) who don’t have a permanent residence selling themselves into servitude to Israelites in order to escape poverty, homelessness, and death. However, in the same passage a few verses earlier, Israelites are counseled to freely help sojourners who are fallen on hard times.
Google slave definition, _"a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person."_ Google Lev 25:44-46, _"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."_ Slave means property. The Bible says you can buy people "who will become your property". It's not ambiguous, people. The Bible provides instructions on slavery.
@@tinkandtuck Right, they ignored what the text literally says (a person owned as property) and how that's the literal definition of slave (feel free to find a dictionary that doesn't define it as being owned as property if you can. For example Merriam-Webster describes slave as one born into/sold/captured into chattel slavery which it defines as (you guessed it!) a person held as property of another.) That's why the Bible uses the English word "slave" for these verses. They're actually about slavery. Additionally the Bible uses bondservant for _other verses,_ when the Bible is actually talking about that other form of slavery. The translators understood these are two different forms, and use two distinct words in I think every translation of the Bible. This means when Christians disagree, they're disagreeing with the vast majority of English translators of the Bible. So if every English translation we have gets something so simple wrong, the entire Bible is that much less reliable (and it wasn't exactly reliable in the first place, yeah?). After all if you insist you know better than translators, *what other mistakes are riddled throughout the Bible due to translation!?* Your answer, presumably, is "as many as I want" because you're just inventing nonsense to change the Bible's actual meaning so you're essentially pretending you're the new author of the Bible and get to decide exactly what it says.
I use to have a couple friends like this. It’s almost impossible to find these types of friends, and even if I did, I have no idea how to get to that point again with anyone.
Yup..but it NEVER SAYS OWN! Possession in lev25 is not possession by ownership but possession by debt contract, hence redemption (buyback from debt) by Redeemer Christ..of the world, Gentiles too. Read Deut15. Loans to rid poverty..Hebrews first then Gentiles
Deutoronomy 28:68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you. SLAVERY WaS A. CURSE put on Israel because of disobedience
Just throwing this here to the podcast guy on slavery "20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."
@CP-dk8oi "died of the injury. " This is the thing you're reading into the text that isn't there. It is actually creating a statute of limitations, that you can't claim that a man died from a beating when he lived for several days after it. That is the same law for free and slave.
@CP-dk8oi the website biblehub has a dozen commentaries for every single verse, which allows you to see what others in different times and places, some pastors, some greek/Hebrew scholars, have said about the passage before. It is unlikely that a valid interpretation has not been considered, and so that's where you should go when you are uncertain of the meaning of a text, before you make up your mind on intuition alone
Thank you for saying that Ray!😄 All this time I thought I was the only one who saw Sam Harris as the simple guy next door who's not very wise at all, but always had to put his two pennies in. 🙄
Free will is one thing, but the law given to Israel, who were God's chosen people, were literally given the permission to take sl. av. es. That's deeper than just an answer of "free will". It brings into question what God deems good, right and just if he allowed things that were abhorrent.
@@tryphenarose384your comment sounds like you did not understand what they said. Exodus 21:16 says: Exodus 21:16 ESV [16] “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death. That was the slavery of early America, not the Bible. How does that line up with your comment? In God's letter to mankind, called the Bible, He talks about much that he does not condone but is true and is supposed to be used for us to learn more about Him. Most of the terms translated slave in the Bible actually would be more accurately translated as bondservant. Please check this out. You really have misunderstood this video and that term.
@@Matt-y1l I'm not going to argue with a person who has no understanding at all of who God is and what his word, the Bible says. And obviously has no desire to learn.
@mikeslater6246 I have read the Bible and was a christian for 20 years. If there were no contradictions in the Bible there would not be over 1,000 different Christian denominations.
People who is like that old man showed in the clip who walking away soon after he finished his question is actually believing that God is exist, but he just reject Him because God is not act in the way that he thinks is the best way or the best moral or in anothee words that person like that think he knows all, have all the good standart.. A person wouldn't so mad or hate for something that he thought never existed to begin with..
Except I have a choice to continue to do work or quit. These slaves have zero choice to quit and are forced to do work. Oh and masters can physically abuse their property as long as they survive within 1-2 days. Exodus 21:20-21
It is a misconception that chatel slavery was a benefit to the southern economy. There is plenty of data that refutes this notion and actually emphasizes that it was holding the economy back due to its inefficiencies. Voluntary labor has proven to be far more beneficial and prosperous as we saw in industrialization in the North shortly after the war and through the 21st century. I would argue this is not only a natural consequence but a divine blessing from God for doing things the way God prescribes.
Obviously in terms of what the bible says about "slavery" it like, almost obviously today applies to a job. "Hey dont hate your boss" "If you are a boss, treat your workers well"
that is not true Leviticus 25:44-46 (CSB) 44 “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves. 45 “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you -- those born in your land. These may become your property. 46 “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly. This is not indentured servitude this is Chatel slavery. The Israelites are allowed to enslave the nations around them and keep them as an inheritance to pass down as their property to their children and children’s children. They also can treat them harshly …
Now if that were the case why didn’t they just say “employees” instead of slaves. Two very different concepts that could easily be distinguished in text, even back then.
@@Yipper64 you don’t need to study it. It’s very straight forward. Christians believe the Bible is the word of god -> the Bible condones slavery in various verses throughout -> conclusion: god condones slavery. This has nothing to do with relevance but everything to do with morality
@@chasebush7423 The gods condone slavery to freely practising bestiality, child sacrifice and other land polluting atrocities that deserve complete annihilation. The Most High God condones slavery of those people so that they might live freely under Him and choose life by covenanting themselves to Him.
The children of Israel were slaves in Egypt for 400 years. They reaped what they sowed. They sold Joseph into slavery. The children of Judah were taken captive in Babylon. Joseph was exalted to the 2nd in command and Daniel’s obedience made him the kings favorite. Daniel received visions of the end of days. Paul the apostle was imprisoned and he wrote most of the New Testament. He that is greatest of you must be your servant(slave). If you can be free be free.
Forced to serve. Poor Hebrews and poor gentiles were forced to serve by debt. But it was a choice to take out a loan..as it is today, and yet another choice to have God absolve that debt (fin&sin) completely. Sin makes you a slave by force
Slavery was different then, poor people worked for food as salary, after a specific time (they're freed) So many of them they put themselves into slavery, sometimes their family gave up their children because they didn't have enough food.
"Slavery was different then" Nope. Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south. It was not voluntary, and it was not of economic benefit to the slave.
@@cygnusustusThat is absolute nonsense....you clearly do not understand the Bible and as a sinner do not have the right to judge a holy, perfect, righteous God whose very grace you depend on for every breath you take.
@@ServantOfChrist_77 it’s nonsense that foreign people were allowed to be Israelites slaves that they could inherit? Are you sure? Leviticus 25:44-46 (CSB) 44 “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves. 45 “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you -- those born in your land. These may become your property. 46 “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly. I think you need to reread your Bible
@@cygnusustusCan you please reference the scriptures that support what you say about how foreign slaves could be treated under mosaic law? I’m trying to learn more about this topic.
Atheists will bring up (Leviticus 25:46) "You may pass them on as an inheritance to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countryman, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another. This verse is used to argue that slavery in the O.T. was chattel slavery. But God's word does not contradict itself and reading all the other passages in Leviticus and Deuteronomy demonstrate that slaves were bondservants with many rights unlike the slave trade in the U.S.
But it's still chattel slavery lol by definition Chattel slavery means that one person has total ownership of another In Leviticus 25:44 - 46 the Israelites have complete ownership of another human being and get to pass them down as an inheritance.. and you can treat them harshly [Lev 25:44 CSB] “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves. [Lev 25:45 CSB] “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you - those born in your land. These may become your property. [Lev 25:46 CSB] “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly.
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot no, SLAVERY is ownership of another person without a covenant. That it can be voluntarily entered into for life doesn't make the nature of the treatment or rights any different. They could still buy their freedom with the wages they earned. They just weren't subject to the automatic release after 6 years
Actually the Bible does allow slavery, and am a Christian saying this. Anybody with any knowledge of history and how the world ran back then would understand why slavery had to exist. Do you people not realize that currency in those times ran by non renewable resources like gold and silver? And how much weaker the world’s economy was?? 95 percent of regular civilians lived in poverty, heck if you didn’t have a family business or land you were not going to make it far in life. Education was key, and only the rich/nobles could afford that. Slavery helped fix the poverty issue as it was way better being a slave having your daily necessities then living in the streets having nothing. Neverless slavery is a human thing for in the beginning it was not so-Matthew 19:8. For when God created the world he commanded humans to rule the earth, not each other
Well that’s not completely true. That’s like saying we are not supposed to eat meat because in the beginning it was not so. But we know that Christ ate fish. With that being said God did command Israelites and gave liberty to them to have chattel sl@ves. And also when he saves the Israelites and puts them back into the land, they are going to have servants again.
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot being a servant to the right master isn’t a bad thing. Look how Satan turned out, he rebelled against God because he saw himself as a slave while ignoring the benefits and love that God had for him in heaven. Now he’s exercising his free will for evil just like how people in this corrupt world are doing. And i can tell that it was better to be a slave in Israel than a pagan nation that world literally use you for abominable rituals. But my point of quoting Matthew 19:8 was to show that slavery (of this world) was never the will of God, but God allowed it. Just like how the Bible saids God Hates divorce but He allows it under certain grounds.
@@JESUS_IS_KING777_12 I mean God still allows divorce even in the New Testament but I get what you’re trying to get at. However, it doesn’t work in the cases of slavery because he still allows slavery and that the Israelites are going to have slaves in the future… The specific scripture I’m talking about in the Old Testament talks about the Israelites being able to be harsh and treat their slaves with rigor Leviticus 25:44-46
The "slavery" condoned in the Bible was not the slavery of early America. The slavery of the Bible was indentured servitude. And all of those slaves were required to be released in their 7th year. How does exodus 21:16 which requires all of those involved in American type slavery to have been put to death and Biblical "slaves" being released in their 7th year line up with your comment?
@unveiledface The Old Testament God that is doing g all of those horrible things, don't sit right with me. That God cannot be the same God Jesus talks about in the New Testament.
@@marceld8961 God can chasten His people by bringing tribulation upon them. That is how God purifies and corrects His people and brings them to repentance.
Slavery is when you don't work for yourself but someone else, as seen in employment, mortgage, and taxes. Only the self employed and debt free are Biblically free and not slaves
@@cosmictreason2242 not my point… my point is that you are trying to act as a slavery is like a normal job. I’m saying indentured servitude is part of slavery but the other part of slavery is Leviticus 25:44-46 which is Chatel slavery
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot the Bible doesn't endorse chattel slavery. Slavery was voluntary, property and marriage rights were retained, they were paid, it was forbidden to force someone into it and it was forbidden to return a runaway slave. And even minor workers comp injuries resulted in massive compensation. Slaves also had equal protection under the law as free citizens. The only rights they did not have was how to dispose of their own labor
I'm sorry, but if you're going to say that if you have an employer then you're a "slave", and in the next breath talk about Biblical slavery then you're just wrong. Apples and Oranges. Stand in front of a foreign lifelong chattel slave in the Bible and tell him you know how he feels because you have a job too. See how he would react. That statement is an slap in the face to the millions of people throughout history that have suffered horribly under the yoke of slavery. Shame on you
"That's not what the Bible is talking about." Lie. The Bible describes, condones, and promotes chattel slavery, just as was inflicting on Africans through the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south. Christians need to stop lying for their beliefs.
“Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. From Leviticus 25:44-46. The God of the Bible endorses owning people as property.
"The first question we have to ask is 'what do you mean by slavery'?" The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour." "Yeah, but they don't want to hear the answer." Nope. It is you Christians who do not want to hear the answer!
God is never ok with slavery ever… slavery back in the days of BC was actually an act of caring for that person. They were taken care of. I PRAYED FOR THIS MAN TO COME RUNNING TO JESUS AND REPENT OF ALL HIS SINS❤
@CP-dk8oiNo. it was all debt servitude. Read Deut15. God’s plan to rid poverty throughout the land..first Hebrews then Gentiles til no more poor exist. How? verse 6..loans. That’s why it’s all about redemption by Redeemer Christ. Possession in lev25 is NOT ownership possession but possession by debt contract. Gentiles were free after they paid their debt off in full. Hebrews had redemption by covenant..God married to the covenanted person absolved all debt, fin&sin. Gentiles had to pay off their debt themselves (fin&sin) no matter how long it took. UNLESS, they too bc covenanted, which is the entire point. Deut29.10-15.
“God is never ok with slavery ever…” And yet this God gave instructions about owning people as property and passing them down to their kids. And that masters can physically abuse their slaves as long as they survive within 1-2 days.
Some people think they were the only people whose ancestors were slaves.Slavery was in EVERY country on earth, way back in the past. And they used their OWN PEOPLE. There were no buildings, roads etc. etc. And they needed many to help.
@@elibonham4388 God's actions _never_ need to be excused. Yours, on the other hand, _do._ When your Judgment Day arrives, as it will for _all_ of us, it will not be you judging God; it will be Him judging you. You are currently hostile to your Creator, without whom you would not even exist. In love, I urge you to reconsider your foolish position. Watch any of Ray's videos and understand that you, like every single one of us, have violated God's laws and commandments, and any of us whose sins are not forgiven, will receive God's just punishment: eternity in Hell, the most terrible thing imaginable. And even though you are at present God's enemy, He still offers you not only forgiveness, but also eternal life where there is no sin, no disease, no suffering. It's totally up to you; God does not force you to love or accept Him. But ... He also allows you to suffer the consequences of your choice. Admit to Him that you have sinned against Him, ask Him to forgive you through His son, the Savior, Jesus Christ, and His death and resurrection. Be genuinely sorrowful for your sin, turn away from it, and turn to God. Read His love letter to you (the Bible) daily, and ask Him to lead and guide you in righteousness. The Bible is clear: IF you seek Him, you WILL find Him. And, if you become born again as Jesus says you must, you will receive the miracle of a new heart and new desires. Peace, love and blessings.
@@elibonham4388 Slavery under Israel is slavery under the Most High God, which is freedom for those willing to choose it and live it. The only other option is the slavery under the lesser gods that all the nations are born into, the ones under whom you have been a slave your entire life. So why won't you give up your slavery to degeneracy and sensuality? Your gods hate you and they want you to go to the lake of fire. My God is the only one who wants to set you free but He won't until you choose it.
@@elibonham4388 Slavery under Israel is slavery under the Most High God, which is freedom for those willing to choose it and live it. The only other option is the slavery under the lesser gods that all the nations are born into, the ones under whom you have been a slave your entire life. So why won't you give up your slavery to degeneracy and sensuality? Your gods hate you and they want you to go to the lake of fire. My God is the only one who wants to set you free but He won't until you choose it.
So how do you address Exodus 21:20-21 20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
One, I love that people correlate modern slavery of Black people with the slavery that happened to the Israelites because it just so happens that we are the biblical Israelites according to biblical prophecy. The ones that suffered the curses of Deuteronomy 28 and will be redeemed by the Messiah when he comes back to destroy these kingdoms. Secondly, slavery is endorsed in the Bible because you can read about it in Leviticus 25 . Leviticus 25:44-46 (KJV) 44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, [shall be] of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that [are] with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit [them for] a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. This is Chatel slavery in the Bible that the Israelites can do to the other nations but not to their own brethren. Furthermore, prophecy says that the Israelites are going to have servants when they are put back in the land by God. Isaiah 61:5 (NLT) Foreigners will be your servants. They will feed your flocks and plow your fields and tend your vineyards. It’s very disingenuous when people try to act like slavery is not in the Bible.
Jesus is Lord, we who are the true Israel are slaves to Him and His gospel as emphasized by the Apostle Paul. This is freedom! There will be no man in bondage in the kingdom. The only way you will be recognized as a member of the body and His kingdom is through surrender to His will and obedience made possible by the blood that covers us and the Holy Spirit indwelling making us righteous. Your blood will never save you, it only condemns you already. Trust in the savior.
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot Yes I am sure! Hermeneutics 101! Put your trust in the savior who fulfilled the law, not in your own work. Not one of us can keep the law but He did and is our perfection.
@@banemaler Isaiah 61:3-7 (KJV) 3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. 4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations. 5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien [shall be] your plowmen and your vinedressers. 6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: [men] shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves. 7 For your shame [ye shall have] double; and [for] confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them. The nation of Israel receives the gospel and they get to get put back in their own land at which point will be built back up to the old status. And the other nations are going to be their servants feeding the flocks and doing fieldwork unlike the Israelites who are going to be priests and glorified …. I think you need to go back to hermeneutics 101
3:34 Where exactly does the Bible say this? I've heard you say this before and I'm not challenging you, I just honestly have no idea where the Bible speaks of this. Could you provide the reference for it perhaps? Thanks.
When is it ever morally correct to own people as property like the Bible says? Typical apologists trying to twist definitions of words around to fit their narrative.
Leviticus 25: 43-45 43 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. Chattel slavery in America (1) own humans as property for life and handing them down as inheritance (2) took slaves from heathen nations around them (3) were not allowed to treat fellow citizens like they treated the slaves All of this sounds exactly like what God permitted for his chosen people in regards to slavery. The passage clearly displays a very negative version of slavery through verse 46, as it specifically says that you can't treat Israelites this way because that would be ruthless/harsh/wrong.
6:41 can ya`ll please stop this Cringey annoying Childish stuff? especially if you're gonna advertise. Makes it hard to listen/watch We are here to be educated on Christ and see the Holy Spirit Work.
The mental and linguistic gymnastics you have to do rather than just admitting that this is a book written in the stone ages by people who do not have the kind of modern morality that we have achieved through conversation and progress
@@Chemosh418 I'm not going to play word games with you and you know nothing, repeat nothing, about Jesus. He did no such thing. You will answer to Him for the statements like that.
@@mikeslater6246Jesus said take my yoke upon you. Not to mention Roman’s 6:18 says become slaves of righteousness. That’s the same as wearing shackles of righteousness if we are to take off the shackles of sin.
Where in the Bible does it say slavery is wrong? And Where in the Bible does it say polygamy is wrong? I neither support slavery nor polygamy. I am saying that sarcastically to call out people who would always say "where in the Bible does it say... " without using their God given common sense or conscience..
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God made man in from the dust of the Earth. There is a black dirt, White dirt, Brown dirt, Yellow and red dirt. We are a mixture of dirt. We are made out of one blood, according to Acts chapter 17
"What do you mean by slavery?" "Yeah, but they don't want to hear the answer." Here's the answer for you, buddy. The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to wor definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour." Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.
But the Hebrews could not couldn't enslave their own people. The slaves were the heathen. That would be wicked Canaanite nations they were instructed to destroy but failed to carry that out. These nations had sacrificed people and came to the fullness of sin. Wicked like the Mayan civilization. I think there were even some cities that wanted the Hebrews to take them in as slaves during times of war. You will need to reference raping slaves though. Because they committed fornication with the heathen Moabites at Peor and as a result brought a deadly curse on themselves. Fornication was a serious sin. Which Jesus further made strict by saying lust is equal to adultery.
MESSAGE TO LIVING WATERS: What you are doing to people on the streets is guilt-tripping them into accepting Christianity, thinking God judges us the same way a flawed human judge judges criminals, we are NOT criminals in Gods eyes, only flawed creation. God will judge us based on our intentions behind our deeds and words first and foremost for He knows we didn't mean to sin but were lead astray by Satan, God sees who we are deep within us, God has created us as innocent and NOT guilty and it is us who have to work our way into Heaven to God, place in Heaven has to be EARNED, not "bailed out" by blind faith in blood-sacrifice of a human being.
You should read Ephesians 2. It talks all about salvation, and really how to get it! Jesus explains it very clearly, how it's not earned at all, but rather by the grace of God, so that no one can boast and be like, "I worked harder than you for my salvation: [Ephesians 2:8-9] "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." And before you say "faith without works is dead-" [James 2:14-26], it's not talking about salvation, but rather the belief that one has. I can have faith in Jesus all I want, and say that I believe in Him, but even Satan and his demons believe in Him, and tremble at his name- [Verse 19]. This shows that Christians would need to act on their faith. [Hebrews 11:1] says, "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." - Later in the chapter it mentions Rahab (the woman that helped to hide the spies in Jericho. She revered God, and had faith- she knew what God was capable of and how he backed his people. She made an agreement with the two spies, and she fulfilled her part of it. When Jericho was destroyed, her and her family was spared. Another example of great faith was Abraham regarding him and Sarah having a son. The man was over 100, and his wife was over 90! To the regular human eye, that seems impossible, and I'm certain it was a struggle as well, but nothing is impossible with God [Luke 1:37]. After 25 years of waiting and believing, Issac was born. He even displayed faith with action to God when God asked him to sacrifice Issac. Abraham loved his son, and I'm sure he probably felt like it was a terrible thing to do. But he understood that God knows what he knows, and is just and righteous. Either way right before he was about to go through with it, an angel told him to stop. It was a test of his faith, and boy did he pass. Issac lived on, and a sacrificed ram was given to God instead. This is all in [Genesis 21 & 22]. You remember "Doubting Thomas?" He was disciple of Jesus that wasn't around when Jesus appeared to the other disciples after he resurrected. Even they didn't believe it at first. But after, when Thomas came around and they told him that they saw Jesus, he said, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”. [John 20:24]. Jesus comes again a week after, and Thomas finally sees him. This "blind faith in blood sacrifice of a human being" is blessed according to Jesus. Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”- Jesus is returning again someday. Jesus's name Emmanuel means "God with us." God came down into human form. Jesus is not just any man. He is the Son of God, the Father is in Him and He is in the Father. The same power that can forgive sins can heal the sick and bring us to salvation. The book of Mark tells us who Jesus is, if you want to know. God didn't create us to be sinners, but we DID choose that for ourselves. Adam and Eve disobeyed God- yes Satan through the serpent deceived them, but they still made the choice to eat the fruit! And there were many consequences as a result. And a fair judge, not a flawed one is used for the analogy. God is righteous, fair and just. [Psalm 25:8-10]. He shows no partiality [Romans 2:11-12]- other words, no favoritism, similar to how a judge shouldn't. Obviously it's not a 1 to 1 comparison regarding God being able to create the world, but when it comes to salvation and forgiveness it's actually quite spot on. Another good one is Jesus being like a doctor/physician: “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance,” [Mark 2:17]. Doing sins do in fact go against God- and because we have desire to sin, that's why the flesh is described as being 'at enmity with God.' [Romans 8:7]. That's why Jesus says repeatedly to deny our flesh and follow him instead- “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me." [Matthew 16:24]. In other words, there is nothing we can do to earn our own salvation- that's completely by God's grace, and the Bible says so very clearly. It's a comfort to me because it helps me to focus on God and on Jesus and how to be like Him, rather than focusing on being a morally perfect person- which is something none of us can do. Following Jesus' example, taking His words and applying them to our lives is paramount. If we struggle, no worries! That's why we can talk to Him, and develop that relationship with Him! The more we hang out with Him, the more we begin to look like Him. [Proverbs 13:20-25]. Having that relationship with Him is important to developing it, and when we get the Holy Spirit (which comes by being saved)[1 Corinth. 12:13 & more] we are able to develop the fruits of that spirit. Sending love to you!
It is clear that a person can be enslaved without shackles. It is the only explanation why people continue to harp about slavery in the land of plenty that God rooted people in. Who says God did not end slavery in this country. But the group who was enslaved continued to choose slavery over freedom and plenty.
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Free Will, not the will of God.
The arrogant do not take the time to sincerely seek God and know Him. Therefore, they lack wisdom.
Hey ray, what is the text you would use for God gives all people a freewill ? I totally agree, I am a provisionist and this text that you would point to, would give more evidence against the calvinistic side who says freewill is an illusion.
@@joshuawoodin you have the freedom to do whatever it is in your will to do. And your will is in bondage to sin, doing only evil continually. Only upon God converting the will do you believe
@@cosmictreason2242 where is this in the bible ?
When he said “ thank you, I needed this” it got me choked up. You know Ray got the message through. God bless, brother🙏🏼
Yes, grandma's prayers will be answered! 🙏
He heard Ray and the truth of the Gospel and a loving God!
I was sitting on my bed and had just shut my laptop and went into a vision. I was in front of a judge I was looking up at him as he was very high up, he suddenly slammed down his gauntlet and yelled GUILTY! With no argument I turned with my head down to walk towards my fate and out of the corner of my eye I saw a bright light when I looked up, I saw Jesus with His arms outstretched and a huge smile on His face. I knew He was there to save me.💗
What crime did you commit?
What were you found guilty of?
I once had a dream that a hamburger was eating me!
@@neckutter1125 That's too deep for me.😅
BEAUTIFUL
@@2l84me8the 10 commandments are God’s moral law and we all have broken that law. We are all guilty and deserve hell. No one is good enough…no one is good but God. This is why Jesus died on the cross. He paid the price so we don’t have to. All we need to do is turn away from sin and put our faith and trust into Jesus. The only way to heaven is through Jesus. He is the only one that can save us from this sinful life.
Dear Pastor, I really loved the combination of the street and the studio conversation.
May the Lord continue blessing you.
Of all the situations you've been through, your reaction to it, is directly related to your relationship with Jesus.
Wow
Anytime this kind of discussion gets brought up I’m going to send the person THIS! Thank you ray comfort.
What a lovely guy! Bless him Lord and bring him into your kingdom 🙏
Romans 6:15-23 we are slaves to sin or righteousness . Also Isaiah 59 and Titus 3:1-11 . We don't have to defend The Lion He can defend Himself.
Leviticus 25:44-46
In Ephesians Paul uses slavery as a metaphor to describe the human condition, with the choice of being a slave to sin or to God. He believed that slavery is an inevitable part of human existence, and that becoming a slave means giving up status. Paul also identified himself and good Christians as slaves of God, and gave slaves control over their own salvation.
@@sallylara1102 it's not a metaphor it's a literal condition. A slave does not get to decide what to do for himself but must do what someone else tells him
@@cosmictreason2242 Thank you for pointing out the obvious.
Romans 6:20-23 here is another one Romans 3:10-18 no one is good and seeks after God . And the accurate translation to Doulos is slave.
This format works well! Praying for all those hurt by slavery to know the Savior who sets all men free who repent and place their lives in Christ! No truer words “I needed this”.
So you’re going to pray for the god that permitted slavery to help those hurt by slavery?
This is your brain on religion.
@@2l84me8Yes.
Is it OK if we pray for white slaves too?
You mean the same that endorses slavery and gave the Israelitics instructions on how to buy slaves and own them as property. Leviticus 25: 44-46
And that slave masters can physically abuse slaves as long as they survive within 1-2 days. Exodus 21:20-21
That guy totally changed by the end! God bless him. 🙏
People hate others without knowing who they are
It’s time we start loving people if we know them or not
How would you respond to the claim, "The Bible supports slavery!"?
Exodus 20 says differently.
Paul's letter to Philemon
Indentured servitude
Well the abolitionists that fought to eradicate slavery were mostly Christians so I guess the Bible must be open to interpretation to have such drastically opposing views 😉
I probably don't have an accurate or biblical answer but what comes to mind is 'Render unto Ceasar' and 'the god (small g) of this world has blinded'.
Like Daniel and Joseph, Christians exist and live within a world system at any given time. These systems aren't typically controlled by Christians, no matter how much they'd like to believe they do.
Whether people like it or not, true believers would probably not treat slaves as merely animals or property but as fellow image bearers.
These world systems on the other hand, would probably just recapture a freed slave and resell them to a new master.
If you really think about it, a righteous master would be the safest place for such persons to stay with. They would be protected from the larger society (civilization).
Just a personal opinion though.
Beautiful presentation of the simple, yet profound truth ❤
More like a bunch of nonsense.
Typical atheist whining 🍼🍼🍼 waaah. From one whose only concern is to blaspheme others for ridiculous actions attributed to God who you hate. So theres nothing that he does that's right according to atheist logic.
Exodus chapter 21:16
Expressly declares that kidnap of another human ( Mr humanist 😂 ) for the express purpose of selling or holding in ones possession is worth of the Death penalty.
Go whine somewhere else.
Always enlighten and inspiring watching everyone of your videos sir Ray
The interview made me cry ❤
Extremely good show, and very timely ❤. Thank you so much for your boldness in Truth.
Dear Ray, we love you too. One of the best evangelists on the planet.
At 14:08, the young man in the video shows a misunderstanding of what love is as do many people nowadays. Love is not a feeling, it's not something that you can fall into like a cow pie. It is a decision like God's decision to create and then to love us. But I love his response to Ray's gentle witness.
During the 8 hours I work each day, I'm a bondservant
But you are not a chattel slave, as condoned by God in the Bible.
@@cygnusustus Nor did I imply as much
@@livenotonevil8279
The issue is about chattel slavery.
What was the point of bringing up indentured servitude?
@@cygnusustus
That is entirely the point. Your definition of chattel slavery is not the Biblical definition or description of slavery.
@@tituslaird1265
"That is entirely the point. Your definition of chattel slavery is not the Biblical definition or description of slavery."
Bzzzz! Sorry bucko. You lose again.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery.
"44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
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We’re not slaves we are Servants of Yeshua unto His Covenant and Commandments
Why does an all powerful god need servants for, again?
Or do the church leaders simply want your obedience and money?
@@2l84me8He doesn’t need servants, he can make rocks do his will if he wants. Luke 19:40 But because he loves people enough that he would die for them, he sends out his people who have been eternally blessed with everlasting life to reflect his love, the church (all believers) to be a witness to the whole world. God doesn’t wish that anyone should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2nd Peter 3:9 I don’t entirely know the in’s and out’s to God’s reason why he’d use people as flawed as Noah, who got drunk, Abraham, who slept with his wife’s maid, Moses, who killed a man, David, who had committed adultery and murdered the adulteress’s husband, and many other people. But it really goes to show how patience and merciful he is, he came on this earth to die for his enemies. But God, though patient, will still have his day of justice. Those hypocrites who are just looking to get your money will get what they deserve, but same thing as liars, thieves, blasphemers, adulterers, murderers, and fornicators. There will not be a soul that will be innocent, so get right with God otherwise you’ll face the same fate as those money grabbing preachers.
@@2l84me8we are servants meaning He live thru us and we are to show others the way
@@SELAHPAUSE That didn’t answer my question at all.
Where’s your evidence?
@@2l84me8God has no “needs”
I needed this. This is what evangelism should evoke from someone.
Seed planted! Great work Ray!
1 Timothy 1:10 was the Scripture to quote. Thank you Ray!
I am a slave to Christ Jesus my Lord and Savior!!!!
A sexslave?
Amen Brother me too!
Don’t be ridiculous
@@McD-j5r ?
I am a Child of God 🤸🤸🤸♥️💫
Children who pass away young are in the arms of God. He doesn't take them but he definitely receives them.
@indiawilkins9750 god in the Old Testament is not the same God Jesus talks about. That God in the old Testament is a monster.
You can litterly see him soften as Ray shares the Gospel with him🥲🙏
Jon McCray ("Whaddo You Meme??" is his channel name here on UA-cam) also did a great series digging into the topic of slavery and the Bible, too. Highly recommend looking that up, for any reading.
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Thanks for this!
Such an Amazing video praise GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video❤
One other thought, no crop of any thing that was planted, was , until an animal, or a machine could do the labor, was done by man.
Glad this video is out for people to see.
Only if they have eyes to see…
And hear 👂 it out.
@@melissaculpepper7663
If only Christians were honest.
@@cygnusustus They are the biggest cherrypicking liars EVER.
When will people stop asking God why he didn't stop this and stop that. When are people going to thank God for the air they breathe, the sun, the rain, the food, and more importantly coming down on this sinful planet and dying to give us a chance to be forgiven for our sins and have the hope to have eternal life
Should the children who are being sex trafficked thank God?
@@Matt-y1l You can't blame God for what people do to children or anyone else. If you did something wrong, should others get the blame also? These people will be punished for their actions unless they come to Jesus and ask for forgiveness.
@@oldmanonamission8055you people are living in delusion if god don't stop the simple slavery system what can we accept from this fictional god Jesus
I thought it said my babies beef… And I just rolled because it looks like she’s angry and it’s so fitting🎉
Morgan: “I’m gonna stop calling you a White man.”
Mike Wallace: “But, but, but… I’m Jewish…”
And yes, he did say that. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼🤦🏼♀️
The ancient Semites weren't white.
I don’t get it
@@DaveBoswell-lz3kc Mike Wallace was not an ancient Semite any more than Hitler was. And ancient Semites were all shades of brown just as Japhethites were.
@@christisking777 Wallace tried to discredit everything Morgan Freeman said because:
A.) It didn’t agree with the Marxist CBS mantra of progressive racism and…
B.) He was claiming that he wasn’t White even though it’s plain to see that he was.
@@Inmate533ah thank you! 🙏
In Ephesians Paul uses slavery as a metaphor to describe the human condition, with the choice of being a slave to sin or to God. He believed that slavery is an inevitable part of human existence, and that becoming a slave means giving up status. Paul also identified himself and good Christians as slaves of God, and gave slaves control over their own salvation.
Jesus is So Amazing Amen
Jesus would have had blacks on his porch if he were here today.
One cannot serve both God and Mammon for he we love one and hate the other. 💵
That God approved it, and in certain occasions COMMANDS it.
I love your videos Ray keep them up !
You got me when you said ريمون 😂😂😂
I'm iraqi, and may cousin's name is Remoon .
Regardless of the term of SLAVERY , we should first admit that we are slaves to the devil, but by God's grace, we've been saved. As long as people blame God, not Satan, for all the bad things ,they will be far from truth .
God bless you all living waters ❤
The Lord through Livingwaters has helped me so much, lets get out there and plant seeds for the Lords harvest!!
To hell with ALL slavery.
May God bless for this ministry,and all of you those who involved to keep souls for Jesus from the darkness.
I really Love the way you guys ministering to people, Jesus Giving you wisdom.
This is a great video, thanks for posting guys! I do wish though you had addressed specifically Lev 25:44-46 which is talking about non Israelites and God allowing them to be kept as slaves 'permanently' and as 'property' vs Israelite 'slaves' who were to be released after a certain amount of time or in the year of jubilee. This is a passage I've often wondered about.
He doesn’t wanna talk about it nor does any other Christian because they can’t explain it. The Israelites are allowed to have slaves
@CP-dk8oi Christian that doesn’t want to explain it. Meaning a teacher someone who’s going to teach. That’s why I’m referring to people like in the video who are teaching other people
It’s about sojourners (those of foreign ancestry passing through Israel or temporarily dwelling there) who don’t have a permanent residence selling themselves into servitude to Israelites in order to escape poverty, homelessness, and death. However, in the same passage a few verses earlier, Israelites are counseled to freely help sojourners who are fallen on hard times.
@@chiefamongsinners16 sojourners of their OWN people. These other nations they can completely own and pass down as inheritance
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot Where does it say sojourners “of their own people?”
6:07 I half-expected him to add “Principles of Christian Growth” right after this.
Google slave definition, _"a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person."_
Google Lev 25:44-46, _"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."_
Slave means property. The Bible says you can buy people "who will become your property".
It's not ambiguous, people. The Bible provides instructions on slavery.
so yea.. they actually explained it as a bondservant, as well as specifying the difference between "googles" definition and the Bibles'
@@tinkandtuck Right, they ignored what the text literally says (a person owned as property) and how that's the literal definition of slave (feel free to find a dictionary that doesn't define it as being owned as property if you can. For example Merriam-Webster describes slave as one born into/sold/captured into chattel slavery which it defines as (you guessed it!) a person held as property of another.)
That's why the Bible uses the English word "slave" for these verses. They're actually about slavery.
Additionally the Bible uses bondservant for _other verses,_ when the Bible is actually talking about that other form of slavery. The translators understood these are two different forms, and use two distinct words in I think every translation of the Bible.
This means when Christians disagree, they're disagreeing with the vast majority of English translators of the Bible.
So if every English translation we have gets something so simple wrong, the entire Bible is that much less reliable (and it wasn't exactly reliable in the first place, yeah?). After all if you insist you know better than translators, *what other mistakes are riddled throughout the Bible due to translation!?*
Your answer, presumably, is "as many as I want" because you're just inventing nonsense to change the Bible's actual meaning so you're essentially pretending you're the new author of the Bible and get to decide exactly what it says.
I use to have a couple friends like this. It’s almost impossible to find these types of friends, and even if I did, I have no idea how to get to that point again with anyone.
Yippee new video 🎉
Wow great apologetics to learn from!
One being owned and passed down as property is called slavery.
Yup..but it NEVER SAYS OWN! Possession in lev25 is not possession by ownership but possession by debt contract, hence redemption (buyback from debt) by Redeemer Christ..of the world, Gentiles too. Read Deut15. Loans to rid poverty..Hebrews first then Gentiles
@@9432515 what do you think property is . Why would a servant need an awl through his ear to show he is mine for life?
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Property being owned is one who wears the awl,🤦♂️
@@9432515 Interesting. I didn't see that before. Will read.
Beautiful praise the Lord🙏🏻
Deutoronomy 28:68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.
SLAVERY WaS A. CURSE put on Israel because of disobedience
1 PETER 2:18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear, not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
Thanks God.
Just throwing this here to the podcast guy on slavery "20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."
Happens to be the exact same level of legal protection the free man gets, in the same passage
@CP-dk8oi "died of the injury. " This is the thing you're reading into the text that isn't there. It is actually creating a statute of limitations, that you can't claim that a man died from a beating when he lived for several days after it. That is the same law for free and slave.
@CP-dk8oi the website biblehub has a dozen commentaries for every single verse, which allows you to see what others in different times and places, some pastors, some greek/Hebrew scholars, have said about the passage before. It is unlikely that a valid interpretation has not been considered, and so that's where you should go when you are uncertain of the meaning of a text, before you make up your mind on intuition alone
Thank you for saying that Ray!😄 All this time I thought I was the only one who saw Sam Harris as the simple guy next door who's not very wise at all, but always had to put his two pennies in. 🙄
He parrots bad arguments for the masses. The voice of the d.a.
Never gets old.
free will
Free will is one thing, but the law given to Israel, who were God's chosen people, were literally given the permission to take sl. av. es. That's deeper than just an answer of "free will". It brings into question what God deems good, right and just if he allowed things that were abhorrent.
@@tryphenarose384your comment sounds like you did not understand what they said. Exodus 21:16 says:
Exodus 21:16 ESV
[16] “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.
That was the slavery of early America, not the Bible.
How does that line up with your comment? In God's letter to mankind, called the Bible, He talks about much that he does not condone but is true and is supposed to be used for us to learn more about Him. Most of the terms translated slave in the Bible actually would be more accurately translated as bondservant.
Please check this out. You really have misunderstood this video and that term.
@mikeslater6246 He said its ok to beat slaves just as long as they didnt die within a few days.
What a loving tyrant!
@@Matt-y1l I'm not going to argue with a person who has no understanding at all of who God is and what his word, the Bible says. And obviously has no desire to learn.
@mikeslater6246 I have read the Bible and was a christian for 20 years. If there were no contradictions in the Bible there would not be over 1,000 different Christian denominations.
People who is like that old man showed in the clip who walking away soon after he finished his question is actually believing that God is exist, but he just reject Him because God is not act in the way that he thinks is the best way or the best moral or in anothee words that person like that think he knows all, have all the good standart..
A person wouldn't so mad or hate for something that he thought never existed to begin with..
If anyone gets paid to do work. They may be a slave to the dollar. You can't pay bills, your a slave.
This is a great point!
Except I have a choice to continue to do work or quit.
These slaves have zero choice to quit and are forced to do work.
Oh and masters can physically abuse their property as long as they survive within 1-2 days. Exodus 21:20-21
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It is a misconception that chatel slavery was a benefit to the southern economy. There is plenty of data that refutes this notion and actually emphasizes that it was holding the economy back due to its inefficiencies. Voluntary labor has proven to be far more beneficial and prosperous as we saw in industrialization in the North shortly after the war and through the 21st century. I would argue this is not only a natural consequence but a divine blessing from God for doing things the way God prescribes.
Obviously in terms of what the bible says about "slavery" it like, almost obviously today applies to a job. "Hey dont hate your boss" "If you are a boss, treat your workers well"
that is not true
Leviticus 25:44-46 (CSB) 44 “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves. 45 “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you -- those born in your land. These may become your property. 46 “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly.
This is not indentured servitude this is Chatel slavery. The Israelites are allowed to enslave the nations around them and keep them as an inheritance to pass down as their property to their children and children’s children. They also can treat them harshly …
Now if that were the case why didn’t they just say “employees” instead of slaves. Two very different concepts that could easily be distinguished in text, even back then.
@@chasebush7423 idk maybe it was just more relevant at the time. I havnt gone into an in depth study on this topic.
@@Yipper64 you don’t need to study it. It’s very straight forward. Christians believe the Bible is the word of god -> the Bible condones slavery in various verses throughout -> conclusion: god condones slavery. This has nothing to do with relevance but everything to do with morality
@@chasebush7423 The gods condone slavery to freely practising bestiality, child sacrifice and other land polluting atrocities that deserve complete annihilation. The Most High God condones slavery of those people so that they might live freely under Him and choose life by covenanting themselves to Him.
The children of Israel were slaves in Egypt for 400 years. They reaped what they sowed. They sold Joseph into slavery. The children of Judah were taken captive in Babylon. Joseph was exalted to the 2nd in command and Daniel’s obedience made him the kings favorite. Daniel received visions of the end of days. Paul the apostle was imprisoned and he wrote most of the New Testament. He that is greatest of you must be your servant(slave). If you can be free be free.
Forced to serve. Poor Hebrews and poor gentiles were forced to serve by debt. But it was a choice to take out a loan..as it is today, and yet another choice to have God absolve that debt (fin&sin) completely. Sin makes you a slave by force
Skin color tells you nothing about the person, but the mouth and the heart does.
Slavery was different then, poor people worked for food as salary, after a specific time (they're freed)
So many of them they put themselves into slavery, sometimes their family gave up their children because they didn't have enough food.
"Slavery was different then"
Nope.
Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south. It was not voluntary, and it was not of economic benefit to the slave.
@@cygnusustusThat is absolute nonsense....you clearly do not understand the Bible and as a sinner do not have the right to judge a holy, perfect, righteous God whose very grace you depend on for every breath you take.
@@ServantOfChrist_77 it’s nonsense that foreign people were allowed to be Israelites slaves that they could inherit? Are you sure?
Leviticus 25:44-46 (CSB) 44 “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves. 45 “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you -- those born in your land. These may become your property. 46 “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly.
I think you need to reread your Bible
@@ServantOfChrist_77
"That is absolute nonsense"
Show me which claim was wrong, child.
@@cygnusustusCan you please reference the scriptures that support what you say about how foreign slaves could be treated under mosaic law? I’m trying to learn more about this topic.
Atheists will bring up (Leviticus 25:46) "You may pass them on as an inheritance to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countryman, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another. This verse is used to argue that slavery in the O.T. was chattel slavery. But God's word does not contradict itself and reading all the other passages in Leviticus and Deuteronomy demonstrate that slaves were bondservants with many rights unlike the slave trade in the U.S.
But it's still chattel slavery lol by definition
Chattel slavery means that one person has total ownership of another
In Leviticus 25:44 - 46 the Israelites have complete ownership of another human being and get to pass them down as an inheritance.. and you can treat them harshly
[Lev 25:44 CSB] “Your male and female slaves are to be from the nations around you; you may purchase male and female slaves.
[Lev 25:45 CSB] “You may also purchase them from the aliens residing with you, or from their families living among you - those born in your land. These may become your property.
[Lev 25:46 CSB] “You may leave them to your sons after you to inherit as property; you can make them slaves for life. But concerning your brothers, the Israelites, you must not rule over one another harshly.
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot no, SLAVERY is ownership of another person without a covenant. That it can be voluntarily entered into for life doesn't make the nature of the treatment or rights any different. They could still buy their freedom with the wages they earned. They just weren't subject to the automatic release after 6 years
@@cosmictreason2242 read Leviticus 25:44-46
Actually the Bible does allow slavery, and am a Christian saying this. Anybody with any knowledge of history and how the world ran back then would understand why slavery had to exist. Do you people not realize that currency in those times ran by non renewable resources like gold and silver? And how much weaker the world’s economy was?? 95 percent of regular civilians lived in poverty, heck if you didn’t have a family business or land you were not going to make it far in life. Education was key, and only the rich/nobles could afford that. Slavery helped fix the poverty issue as it was way better being a slave having your daily necessities then living in the streets having nothing.
Neverless slavery is a human thing for in the beginning it was not so-Matthew 19:8. For when God created the world he commanded humans to rule the earth, not each other
Well that’s not completely true. That’s like saying we are not supposed to eat meat because in the beginning it was not so. But we know that Christ ate fish. With that being said God did command Israelites and gave liberty to them to have chattel sl@ves. And also when he saves the Israelites and puts them back into the land, they are going to have servants again.
All of those things factor into why men could also take sl. av. wives as well, right?
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot being a servant to the right master isn’t a bad thing. Look how Satan turned out, he rebelled against God because he saw himself as a slave while ignoring the benefits and love that God had for him in heaven. Now he’s exercising his free will for evil just like how people in this corrupt world are doing.
And i can tell that it was better to be a slave in Israel than a pagan nation that world literally use you for abominable rituals. But my point of quoting Matthew 19:8 was to show that slavery (of this world) was never the will of God, but God allowed it. Just like how the Bible saids God Hates divorce but He allows it under certain grounds.
@@JESUS_IS_KING777_12 I mean God still allows divorce even in the New Testament but I get what you’re trying to get at. However, it doesn’t work in the cases of slavery because he still allows slavery and that the Israelites are going to have slaves in the future…
The specific scripture I’m talking about in the Old Testament talks about the Israelites being able to be harsh and treat their slaves with rigor Leviticus 25:44-46
The "slavery" condoned in the Bible was not the slavery of early America. The slavery of the Bible was indentured servitude. And all of those slaves were required to be released in their 7th year. How does exodus 21:16 which requires all of those involved in American type slavery to have been put to death and Biblical "slaves" being released in their 7th year line up with your comment?
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Did the God of the bible ever send his people into slavery or promise slavery due to a lack of obedience?
Yes
Why didn’t he start with that?
@@unveiledface What do you mean?
@unveiledface The Old Testament God that is doing g all of those horrible things, don't sit right with me. That God cannot be the same God Jesus talks about in the New Testament.
@@marceld8961 God can chasten His people by bringing tribulation upon them. That is how God purifies and corrects His people and brings them to repentance.
Romans 10:13, "All who call on the name of Jehovah will be saved."
Most slave owners and people who owned the slave ships in the slave trade were Jewish
That is the MOST ignorant response I've ever read! Provide definitive proof!
Almost none were Jewish in fact.
Give more In N Out cards!
Slavery is when you don't work for yourself but someone else, as seen in employment, mortgage, and taxes. Only the self employed and debt free are Biblically free and not slaves
Not entirely true
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot it's literally "someone else has the authority to tell you what to do with your time, and the power to punish you for disobedience"
@@cosmictreason2242 not my point… my point is that you are trying to act as a slavery is like a normal job. I’m saying indentured servitude is part of slavery but the other part of slavery is Leviticus 25:44-46 which is Chatel slavery
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot the Bible doesn't endorse chattel slavery. Slavery was voluntary, property and marriage rights were retained, they were paid, it was forbidden to force someone into it and it was forbidden to return a runaway slave. And even minor workers comp injuries resulted in massive compensation. Slaves also had equal protection under the law as free citizens. The only rights they did not have was how to dispose of their own labor
I'm sorry, but if you're going to say that if you have an employer then you're a "slave", and in the next breath talk about Biblical slavery then you're just wrong. Apples and Oranges. Stand in front of a foreign lifelong chattel slave in the Bible and tell him you know how he feels because you have a job too. See how he would react. That statement is an slap in the face to the millions of people throughout history that have suffered horribly under the yoke of slavery. Shame on you
The Bible actually speaks affirmatively about slavery and condemns it
@CP-dk8oi there's a difference between corporate slavery, and a curse pronounced for disobedience.
@@woodshed_momentsbut why did God support the beating of slaves?
Christians playing word games again. Yawn.
@CP-dk8oi there are a couple, proverbs has one
"That's not what the Bible is talking about."
Lie.
The Bible describes, condones, and promotes chattel slavery, just as was inflicting on Africans through the trans-Atlantic slave trade.
Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.
Christians need to stop lying for their beliefs.
Too much too fast. It was work for me to pause, rewind, listen again, then repeat the process. I love you all, but SLOOOWW down! 🙏
“Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession. Exodus 21:16
“Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
From Leviticus 25:44-46.
The God of the Bible endorses owning people as property.
Our understanding of slavery, is based on Roots
"The first question we have to ask is 'what do you mean by slavery'?"
The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery.
"44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
"Yeah, but they don't want to hear the answer."
Nope. It is you Christians who do not want to hear the answer!
Thank you guys for the content, it really helps me understand the gospel further and grow in my relationship with Jesus! ❤
No one nor Nation gets to escape their Judgements.
God is never ok with slavery ever… slavery back in the days of BC was actually an act of caring for that person. They were taken care of. I PRAYED FOR THIS MAN TO COME RUNNING TO JESUS AND REPENT OF ALL HIS SINS❤
I love your comment!
@CP-dk8oiNo. it was all debt servitude. Read Deut15. God’s plan to rid poverty throughout the land..first Hebrews then Gentiles til no more poor exist. How? verse 6..loans. That’s why it’s all about redemption by Redeemer Christ. Possession in lev25 is NOT ownership possession but possession by debt contract. Gentiles were free after they paid their debt off in full. Hebrews had redemption by covenant..God married to the covenanted person absolved all debt, fin&sin. Gentiles had to pay off their debt themselves (fin&sin) no matter how long it took. UNLESS, they too bc covenanted, which is the entire point. Deut29.10-15.
The Bible not only allows for slavery, it actually requires it. So I like to cherry pick that part out.
The Bible not only allows for slavery, it actually requires it. So I like to cherry pick that part out.
“God is never ok with slavery ever…”
And yet this God gave instructions about owning people as property and passing them down to their kids.
And that masters can physically abuse their slaves as long as they survive within 1-2 days.
People who claim christians dont have humor, dont know God. And they havent listened to my brothers here.
Some people think they were the only people whose ancestors were slaves.Slavery was in EVERY country on earth, way back in the past. And they used their OWN PEOPLE. There were no buildings, roads etc. etc. And they needed many to help.
That itself doesnt excuse gods actions
...and therefore....what?
@@elibonham4388 God's actions _never_ need to be excused. Yours, on the other hand, _do._ When your Judgment Day arrives, as it will for _all_ of us, it will not be you judging God; it will be Him judging you. You are currently hostile to your Creator, without whom you would not even exist. In love, I urge you to reconsider your foolish position. Watch any of Ray's videos and understand that you, like every single one of us, have violated God's laws and commandments, and any of us whose sins are not forgiven, will receive God's just punishment: eternity in Hell, the most terrible thing imaginable. And even though you are at present God's enemy, He still offers you not only forgiveness, but also eternal life where there is no sin, no disease, no suffering. It's totally up to you; God does not force you to love or accept Him. But ... He also allows you to suffer the consequences of your choice. Admit to Him that you have sinned against Him, ask Him to forgive you through His son, the Savior, Jesus Christ, and His death and resurrection. Be genuinely sorrowful for your sin, turn away from it, and turn to God. Read His love letter to you (the Bible) daily, and ask Him to lead and guide you in righteousness. The Bible is clear: IF you seek Him, you WILL find Him. And, if you become born again as Jesus says you must, you will receive the miracle of a new heart and new desires. Peace, love and blessings.
@@elibonham4388 Slavery under Israel is slavery under the Most High God, which is freedom for those willing to choose it and live it. The only other option is the slavery under the lesser gods that all the nations are born into, the ones under whom you have been a slave your entire life.
So why won't you give up your slavery to degeneracy and sensuality? Your gods hate you and they want you to go to the lake of fire. My God is the only one who wants to set you free but He won't until you choose it.
@@elibonham4388 Slavery under Israel is slavery under the Most High God, which is freedom for those willing to choose it and live it. The only other option is the slavery under the lesser gods that all the nations are born into, the ones under whom you have been a slave your entire life.
So why won't you give up your slavery to degeneracy and sensuality? Your gods hate you and they want you to go to the lake of fire. My God is the only one who wants to set you free but He won't until you choose it.
So how do you address
Exodus 21:20-21
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
One, I love that people correlate modern slavery of Black people with the slavery that happened to the Israelites because it just so happens that we are the biblical Israelites according to biblical prophecy. The ones that suffered the curses of Deuteronomy 28 and will be redeemed by the Messiah when he comes back to destroy these kingdoms.
Secondly, slavery is endorsed in the Bible because you can read about it in Leviticus 25 .
Leviticus 25:44-46 (KJV) 44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, [shall be] of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that [are] with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit [them for] a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.
This is Chatel slavery in the Bible that the Israelites can do to the other nations but not to their own brethren. Furthermore, prophecy says that the Israelites are going to have servants when they are put back in the land by God.
Isaiah 61:5 (NLT) Foreigners will be your servants. They will feed your flocks and plow your fields and tend your vineyards.
It’s very disingenuous when people try to act like slavery is not in the Bible.
Jesus is Lord, we who are the true Israel are slaves to Him and His gospel as emphasized by the Apostle Paul. This is freedom! There will be no man in bondage in the kingdom. The only way you will be recognized as a member of the body and His kingdom is through surrender to His will and obedience made possible by the blood that covers us and the Holy Spirit indwelling making us righteous. Your blood will never save you, it only condemns you already. Trust in the savior.
@@banemaler there will be no bondage in the kingdom? You sure about that? I believe I just quoted the scripture that says otherwise.
@@ThrowAway-xy4ot Yes I am sure! Hermeneutics 101! Put your trust in the savior who fulfilled the law, not in your own work. Not one of us can keep the law but He did and is our perfection.
@@banemaler
Isaiah 61:3-7 (KJV) 3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. 4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations. 5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien [shall be] your plowmen and your vinedressers. 6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: [men] shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves. 7 For your shame [ye shall have] double; and [for] confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.
The nation of Israel receives the gospel and they get to get put back in their own land at which point will be built back up to the old status. And the other nations are going to be their servants feeding the flocks and doing fieldwork unlike the Israelites who are going to be priests and glorified …. I think you need to go back to hermeneutics 101
There is no slavery in the Bible
3:34 Where exactly does the Bible say this? I've heard you say this before and I'm not challenging you, I just honestly have no idea where the Bible speaks of this. Could you provide the reference for it perhaps? Thanks.
When is it ever morally correct to own people as property like the Bible says? Typical apologists trying to twist definitions of words around to fit their narrative.
Always !
Leviticus 25: 43-45
43 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Chattel slavery in America
(1) own humans as property for life and handing them down as inheritance
(2) took slaves from heathen nations around them
(3) were not allowed to treat fellow citizens like they treated the slaves
All of this sounds exactly like what God permitted for his chosen people in regards to slavery.
The passage clearly displays a very negative version of slavery through verse 46, as it specifically says that you can't treat Israelites this way because that would be ruthless/harsh/wrong.
6:41 can ya`ll please stop this Cringey annoying Childish stuff? especially if you're gonna advertise. Makes it hard to listen/watch We are here to be educated on Christ and see the Holy Spirit Work.
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And 6:52. Is this guy broken?
The mental and linguistic gymnastics you have to do rather than just admitting that this is a book written in the stone ages by people who do not have the kind of modern morality that we have achieved through conversation and progress
The slavery in the Bible was like roots and the Atlantic slave trade.
NO! EXODUS 21:16
@@mikeslater6246 kidnapping isn’t the same as slavery.🤦♂️😂
You do know that slaves were tricked into slavery by Jesus.
@@Chemosh418 I'm not going to play word games with you and you know nothing, repeat nothing, about Jesus. He did no such thing. You will answer to Him for the statements like that.
@@mikeslater6246Jesus said take my yoke upon you.
Not to mention Roman’s 6:18 says become slaves of righteousness. That’s the same as wearing shackles of righteousness if we are to take off the shackles of sin.
@@Chemosh418 the Bible forbids impressment. Roots was impressment. You said they're the same. You lied.
Where in the Bible does it say slavery is wrong? And Where in the Bible does it say polygamy is wrong? I neither support slavery nor polygamy. I am saying that sarcastically to call out people who would always say "where in the Bible does it say... " without using their God given common sense or conscience..
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"What do you mean by slavery?"
"Yeah, but they don't want to hear the answer."
Here's the answer for you, buddy.
The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery.
Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to wor
definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude."
Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery.
"44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."
Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.
But the Hebrews could not couldn't enslave their own people. The slaves were the heathen. That would be wicked Canaanite nations they were instructed to destroy but failed to carry that out. These nations had sacrificed people and came to the fullness of sin. Wicked like the Mayan civilization. I think there were even some cities that wanted the Hebrews to take them in as slaves during times of war. You will need to reference raping slaves though. Because they committed fornication with the heathen Moabites at Peor and as a result brought a deadly curse on themselves. Fornication was a serious sin. Which Jesus further made strict by saying lust is equal to adultery.
that rape is equal to fornication which is equal to lust which is equal to adultery and not permitted by Jesus' standard
@Cheeseshredder
Where is that standard? It's certainly permitted, and promoted, by God's standard.
It all comes down to how terms are defined.
Owning another person is slavery.
@@Matt-y1l If the person makes the choice, and has rights to even leave, you are comparing apples to oranges.
@@TickedOffPriestBuying and owning a person is slavery!
@@TickedOffPriest Except that foreigners could not leave. Which means it’s slavery.
MESSAGE TO LIVING WATERS:
What you are doing to people on the streets is guilt-tripping them into accepting Christianity, thinking God judges us the same way a flawed human judge judges criminals, we are NOT criminals in Gods eyes, only flawed creation. God will judge us based on our intentions behind our deeds and words first and foremost for He knows we didn't mean to sin but were lead astray by Satan, God sees who we are deep within us, God has created us as innocent and NOT guilty and it is us who have to work our way into Heaven to God, place in Heaven has to be EARNED, not "bailed out" by blind faith in blood-sacrifice of a human being.
You should read Ephesians 2. It talks all about salvation, and really how to get it! Jesus explains it very clearly, how it's not earned at all, but rather by the grace of God, so that no one can boast and be like, "I worked harder than you for my salvation: [Ephesians 2:8-9] "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
And before you say "faith without works is dead-" [James 2:14-26], it's not talking about salvation, but rather the belief that one has. I can have faith in Jesus all I want, and say that I believe in Him, but even Satan and his demons believe in Him, and tremble at his name- [Verse 19]. This shows that Christians would need to act on their faith. [Hebrews 11:1] says, "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." - Later in the chapter it mentions Rahab (the woman that helped to hide the spies in Jericho. She revered God, and had faith- she knew what God was capable of and how he backed his people. She made an agreement with the two spies, and she fulfilled her part of it. When Jericho was destroyed, her and her family was spared.
Another example of great faith was Abraham regarding him and Sarah having a son. The man was over 100, and his wife was over 90! To the regular human eye, that seems impossible, and I'm certain it was a struggle as well, but nothing is impossible with God [Luke 1:37]. After 25 years of waiting and believing, Issac was born. He even displayed faith with action to God when God asked him to sacrifice Issac. Abraham loved his son, and I'm sure he probably felt like it was a terrible thing to do. But he understood that God knows what he knows, and is just and righteous. Either way right before he was about to go through with it, an angel told him to stop. It was a test of his faith, and boy did he pass. Issac lived on, and a sacrificed ram was given to God instead. This is all in [Genesis 21 & 22].
You remember "Doubting Thomas?" He was disciple of Jesus that wasn't around when Jesus appeared to the other disciples after he resurrected. Even they didn't believe it at first. But after, when Thomas came around and they told him that they saw Jesus, he said, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”. [John 20:24]. Jesus comes again a week after, and Thomas finally sees him.
This "blind faith in blood sacrifice of a human being" is blessed according to Jesus. Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”- Jesus is returning again someday. Jesus's name Emmanuel means "God with us." God came down into human form. Jesus is not just any man. He is the Son of God, the Father is in Him and He is in the Father. The same power that can forgive sins can heal the sick and bring us to salvation. The book of Mark tells us who Jesus is, if you want to know.
God didn't create us to be sinners, but we DID choose that for ourselves. Adam and Eve disobeyed God- yes Satan through the serpent deceived them, but they still made the choice to eat the fruit! And there were many consequences as a result.
And a fair judge, not a flawed one is used for the analogy. God is righteous, fair and just. [Psalm 25:8-10]. He shows no partiality [Romans 2:11-12]- other words, no favoritism, similar to how a judge shouldn't. Obviously it's not a 1 to 1 comparison regarding God being able to create the world, but when it comes to salvation and forgiveness it's actually quite spot on. Another good one is Jesus being like a doctor/physician: “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance,” [Mark 2:17]. Doing sins do in fact go against God- and because we have desire to sin, that's why the flesh is described as being 'at enmity with God.' [Romans 8:7]. That's why Jesus says repeatedly to deny our flesh and follow him instead- “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me." [Matthew 16:24].
In other words, there is nothing we can do to earn our own salvation- that's completely by God's grace, and the Bible says so very clearly. It's a comfort to me because it helps me to focus on God and on Jesus and how to be like Him, rather than focusing on being a morally perfect person- which is something none of us can do. Following Jesus' example, taking His words and applying them to our lives is paramount. If we struggle, no worries! That's why we can talk to Him, and develop that relationship with Him! The more we hang out with Him, the more we begin to look like Him. [Proverbs 13:20-25]. Having that relationship with Him is important to developing it, and when we get the Holy Spirit (which comes by being saved)[1 Corinth. 12:13 & more] we are able to develop the fruits of that spirit. Sending love to you!
Treat them well.
Anyone in debt is slave. Many choose to be a slave.
Slavery is defined as owning another person.
@@Matt-y1l or a slave to sin
@@Matt-y1lpossession in lev25.44-46 is not possession by ownership but possession by debt contract. V23 defines the word
It is clear that a person can be enslaved without shackles. It is the only explanation why people continue to harp about slavery in the land of plenty that God rooted people in. Who says God did not end slavery in this country. But the group who was enslaved continued to choose slavery over freedom and plenty.