Listening to this analysis, it occurs to me that Jet and Suki's fighting styles reflect the two major styles of earthbending. Jet has the modern tactic earthbenders we see in Earth Rumble or on the battlefield, attack and attack. Suki falls in line with Toph or Bumi's style of fighting, agility and patience. Just one more cultural thing the creators put in for the Earth Kingdom I guess.
Well... She is a Kyoshi Warrior which would mean they base their fighting style around Avatar Kyoshi's. She also uses a water bending technique: turn your opponent's energy against them😃 Edit: thanks for the like!
@@skyezone3429 zuko is good without beding but not that strong. He lost to a weak earth bender from a small city. While suki fought against ty Lee and did not lose and ty Lee won a army of earth benders
Suki will win this fight! She is way more flexible, can fight with many weapons and she could pull toph out of the water with her heavy „armour/clothes“ (really strong) (COMICS SPOILER): later she learned chi blocking easily by ty lee She is my winner!
I think Suki would win. She is specialized in her fighting, whatever she uses. If you take away Jet’s weapons he would be less than before. Also, Jet would just be overwhelmed by Suki’s beauty 🌹🙃. Also i have some ideas for next video’s: Appa vs Naga, Bolin vs Earthbending Rumble 6 Squad, Zuko vs Sokka, but only swords, and Jinora vs Ikki AND Meelo.
Zuko vs. Sokka with swords already happened in one of the comics. Sokka kept losing over and over again against Zuko because Zuko had trained with the same master Sokka did except it was a long time ago.
You forgot that if you take away jets weapons and sukis weapons too suki will still win for her fast reflexes and would chi block him, and easily suki wins!
Jet in his debut episode wasn't all that impressive but the fact he went toe to toe with Zuko is sword fight is very telling. Zuko with just those swords was a challenge for Zhao's garnizon.
@@Reality-Distortion true. But my point was that it's still plenty impressive. You need more than experience to move the way he does in the trees, you need strength. To be able to keep up with a master airbender in a place that clearly gives aang the advantage is very impressive, regardless.
Suki would win in the duel. Suki can still last in long fights and is capable of chi-blocking. She is also the better hand-to-hand fighter. Even though Jet is better with swords, Suki can disarm him. Note: I believe Suki has better REACTION TIME (not going to explain why unless I am required to).
Personally I believe his best feat is him going toe to toe with zuko (who was trained by piandao at a young age) Edit: it is still quite one sided but still he has a better feat than that
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 theres no exageration in saying that It was without effort, becouse its a fact. He is good but suki out classes him really bad in a fight
What everyone is neglecting is Jets disarming skills. Suki has 100% never come against hooked swords before and her shield can be easily hooked and stolen. Even if she managed to hold on, Jet would pull her into another slash from a different angle, which she wouldn't be able to avoid. Also I don't see Suki getting on the inside, close enough to chi block Jet without getting sliced, honestly it would be impossible. Jet holds the W here just because of his unorthodox fighting that Suki won't be able to figure out.
The only way jet can win is to simply overpower her quickly. If he cant she’ll eventually chi block him with her quick attacks and then the fight is over.
Tuwmaa muhammad at that time then jet probably would win. Suki would get some good hits in but without the chi blocking ability i dont think she would be able to win especially at that time. Suki had gotten stronger at around book three and it was at that time she got a lot more skill because like Antoine said before she was just acting as a cop of some kind but once she got some real experience that was when she became a real contender
Arthur Lin uhm, i dont think its fair to compare an older and better version of suki with a jet that’s now rotting in dirt, we don’t know how he would’ve improved if he was still alive.
tsuyu asui yes but right now we are comparing the characters at there best. We are ocmparing these characters when they were at their strongest. Jet died so this contest was already unfair but thats how this works.
I feel Jet is just a bit (and I mean a bit) smarter than we think. I thought it was pretty mindful that Jet kept up with Aang and eventually found an opportunity to take him down and even disabled his glider. Also during the Dai Li fight he seemed pretty aware which we saw when he saved Toph and defended Longshot from Dai Li projectiles which many characters have struggled to even react to. I guess it's just a shame he died because it definitely feels like while these 2 were both canonically alive Jet would've likely won. Especially assuming like most of the characters he improved over time. Also if morals are intact Jet could just threaten to flood a village and Suki would just take the L.
Suki is the only one ever to go hand to hand combat with Ty Lee and be the closest in being evenly matched. I don’t see Jet having a chance against her.
OG Paul I think you’re underestimating Azulas martial ability. In the day of the black sun she was able to avoid Sokka Aang and Toph although they weren’t interested in fighting her. Also if you watch her fight scenes with Suki in the forest and her fight at the boiling rock she shows not just her fire bending abilities but her physical training too.
@@armaanchima9195 I agree Azula is definitely amongst the top 3 hand to hand combatants in the series(ty lee, suki, and azula). I'd say it goes ty lee(her feats still scale above azula's, ty lee is simply to light on her feat, then suki and azula tie. Azula and suki were Able to go at it for a decent exchange yes suki was defeated but suki was still able to hang. Then season 3 suki was on par with ty lee who scales above azula in hand to hand combat, i see suki and azula being fairly even in throwing hands. Comics aren't being included if so azula is second if not first for sure.
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Antoine Bandele youre right also if sokka never met her she nah have never gotten more fighting skills and would’ve prob lost to jet easily. But I just like sukis character a bit more than jet
@@OrionG Honestly I feel like a lot of comments boil down to liking her better. The main reason I think she wins is style match-up and more importantly, because she was present for a season and a few comics longer, so she got more feats and spotlight, but for the time they coexisted in the series Jet was either better (Season 1) or at least comparable, possibly better. (Season 2)
In a weapons fight I’ll say Jet but in hand to hand Suki by a mile the thing that’s tough tho is that Suki (even with the weapons) don’t have the arm range that jet has so he could keep a mid range distance with the swords n attack but the moment Suki disarms him it’s over
Ifk why I think this fight would be a close one jet is a really skilled fighter but suki was trained her entire life and helped protect an entire island
I really missed these videos. They're so detail oriented but also take into consideration that concepts and themes at play in the characters. I also enjoyed the fight animation. It's new, and possibly incomplete?, but it made following your arguments much easier, and generally entertaining, especially since there isn't any footage of Jet and Suki meeting or fighting each other.
At my channel's current size, an animatic like that is likely all I can afford... but better than nothing! I really like that you hone on "take into consideration that concepts and themes at play in the characters." I think a lot of VS don't take this into consideration a lot of the time.
Can we talk about that sick animatic tho??? What a pleasant surprise that was, it’s so cool to have a visual for this scenario :D Props to the animator, they did a great job!
@@AntoineBandele yeah! And their so fun to listen to! I love these things. Makes me wonder again how Toph vs Bumi would go (hmmmmmmmm........probably not suggestion lol)
Both Jets fights with Aang and Zuko where when he was emotionally heightened so while he was fierce, both those fights he was fighting for a cause, so maybe he was more brash due to that. In the fights with the Fire nation and the Dai Li, he was more in tuned to his surroundings, and more in tuned with the people he was fighting with. I think Jet is a better group fighter and while Suki also is a uniformed fighter with the Kyoshi warriors, she has proven to be a better solo fighter than Jet.This video was good, great job!
Jet is situational because he lacks a solid combat experience so he use environment and wittyness(or wityness, I don't know) to win. Suki is a solid combatan warrior and also ready to face anything (almost anything) where she go. So I will go for suki
“Alright let’s go”-Jango Fett after a Jedi challenged him on Galidran circa 45 bby Edit non bending vs is my favorite type of vs Edit 2 thx for 32 likes
Plo Kooning better fighter, Mundi better Force User. Solo is smarter and Chewbacca is stronger. Idk depends on the location, Solo might outsmart him but in a close room definitely Chewi.
Ok lets be real jet might’ve turned around in the end but suki was a good guy all the way, is a Kyoshi Warrior and an battled prince Zuko before joining team avatar and was able to hold him off while the avatar escaped and is was a loved character from the beginning. Not to mention she survived multiple encounters with princess azula. And to be fair, she’s one of the most badass characters PERIOT
yes, the reason Suki can contends with so many fighters (Ty Lee, The Warden, etc.) is because of her ability to size up her opponents and look for an opening, and if you put that together with her incredible stamina and experience with one-on-one dojo fights (where as Jet is more suited for large scale battles and skirmishes), Suki is the clear victor. Edit: you should do Melon Lord vs Fire Lord/Phoenix King Ozai
Who would win Freedom Fighters or Sukis group ? I am thinking FF they have their own feats and styles, the other warriors are just Suki but not as good and the teamwork in Ba Sing Se seemed better than the Azula battle.
I'd flip that early fight advantage in jets favor. I think suki is going to have her hands full until she gets his style figured out. Between the reach of his swords and the ferocity of his attacks he just puts too much pressure on her for me to see her risking getting in close enough to do any real damage. It still in my opinion comes out 6/ in suki's favor but she's going to have her hands full off the bat is all I'm saying
One of the biggest things people need to consider in fights is morality I mean bolin would be placed super high if he had no problem killing people And people seem to forget who would kill and who wouldn’t I mean katara won’t kill but Amon would and people always forget that
I agree with your outcome, which I wouldn't state here so as not to spoil anything. But my preferred character won. You brought up some points I hadn't considered (lightning dodging, keeping up with Aang, saving Toph as an endurance test). Theres also some things I'd have considered that I don't think you did. Jet has a mind for long term strategy, but that does require using his allies (Longshot especially) to compensate for his flaws. Suki in her full garb is slightly handicapped on mobility by the legs being connected, but she could just cut that layer off. Also, against Azula, her objective wasn't to win the fight, but to protect a target, which she did handily, including by adapting to knowledge she just learned mid-battle (Appa's fear of fire) and adding it to her arsenal. I'd argue she is capable of creating a shot, but if it's creating offense, she's definitely a pass first point guard. I really want to know how she was able to not only capture an Airship, but steer it from the outside.
This fight would be a lot like when Darth Zannah duels Set Harth in _Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil,_ with Suki standing in for Zannah and Jet for Set. While there is a major difference or two, the outcome is the same.
Thanks man! If I can keep generating healthy views or get more memberships, I would love to continue with more animation or at the very least a motion comic type thing.
We also have to keep in mind that when Suki was facing Ty Lee there wasn’t much space and in basically all of Ty Lee’s fight scenes she uses soooo much space
Suki will win. But this isn’t completely fair. Jet hasn’t had that much screen time, and when compared to Suki, who became part of team avatar (or at least honorary) near the end of book three, he won’t have many feats to scale his abilities to. Jet also has more distinct strengths and weaknesses, which means if the battlefield benefits Jet, he will most likely win. But other than that, any other battlefield would be advantageous to Suki. So depending on where they’re fighting, Jet might have a chance.
A clash between the two most underrated non-benders in all of Avatar. IMO, it would've been great if Jet and Suki got a bit more screen time in the show, just so they could have more definitive feats under their belts.
Hey! Great video, it was very interesting watch your analisis I like it a lot :D And just for add something about the fight analisis and because I´m an aikido practitioner, I can tell: The easiest oponents are the ones that attack with brute force, that go head first, the impatient ones and of course, the sword fighters XD (aikido was created to protect a person against bigger oponents or armed ones, specially with swords or blades). And I have thrown out oponen that were 1.92 mts (I´m 1.61 mts tall), and way heavier than myself tecnique, patience, practice and experience means a lot. I agree with your outcome, Jet has a lot of strenght, skill and endurance, but his lack of flexibility by adapting yourself to your oponent and his rash way of attack and thing is what makes him loose. I like it a lot, keep your good work!! Ps: I´m sorry for my bad english.
Well if Suki was able to avoid a point blank lightning strike against Azula, it shows her quick reaction time, so she would be able to handle Jet a lot easily
Good vid, I think suki wins, and I have to comment on the fact that you said he was able to give trouble to Aang wrong, Aang didn't want to fight, held back and barely threw anything and when jet actually took him down he did it mid air while Aang wasn't looking and was trying to grab his staff to escape the confrontation, for another thing if Aang really wanted to go all out he'd take jet even easier then katara, he evaded every attack other then the one from behind, just my opinion on the statement of jet "giving Aang trouble"
@@AntoineBandele It may be difficult, due to the angle- but at least with axes, it's not uncommon to see lots of hooking based movements designed to maneuver the enemies shield or weapon, and set up for another attack. with similar logic- her shield may well be her undoing. It's a sizable target, and if her armor can be trusted to provide protection, it may be best for her to drop the shield entirely, and occupy the hand with something else. Edit: To expand upon how I'd see such a fight going down- Personally, I think the best chance Jet has would be to exploit the agility and range granted by his weapons to keep constant distance, and outmaneuver his opponent. Likely we'd see the trick where he hooks one blade with the other exploited quite heavily, unless they focused more upon verticality in the fight. Meanwhile, Suki's best chance would be to use her speed, natural agility, and armor to close the distance on Jet, get within his guard, and then disable him from there. I suspect the fight could last a while, but the victory would ultimately be won by pressing either of these advantages.
I was definitely like ah yeah suki wins before the video started. But the video really showcase jet I forget how cool jet fighting style is. The animated parts was done extremely well
Just came across this, and this makes me sad that we never got to see Jet as a part of Team Avatar, maturing alongside them, and giving us more characterization.
Doesn’t make sense why people are saying Suki would win because Jet’s dead, but then turn around and say that at first they assumed that Suki was Kyoshi because they resemble each other when Suki has the Kyoshi Warrior outfit & makeup on and then say that Kyoshi would obviously crush Jet but don’t mention that Kyoshi’s dead as well..... 🙄🤨 .....like ummmm, DUHHHH. obviously these hypothetical battles are like, what if both fighters were ALIVE & at their peaks and were to have 1 fight between each other....a dead fighter wouldn’t be able to do anything but just rot in their grave the whole fight.... 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ smh....
I think jet would win he put a great fight against zuko who was trained by piandou one of the best swordsmen and he has way more stamina than suki in my opinion, the only way i see suki winning is if she overpowers him in the first few minutes if not jet is for sure taking the win
idk why but i wanna see a jinora vs kai fight. ofc shes more skilled as an airbender, but not so much as a fighter as kai isnt as skilled, but a great fighter and uses airbending more aggressively.
16:51 wouldn’t say Long Feng got him by surprise, lol. For 1, Jet turned and threw his sword so you can’t not expect somebody to react. 2, the show specifically shows his eyes getting wide open knowing long Feng was attacking him
I just want to note suki didn't know how to chiblock till after the war so it really depends if this post war or if they happened to stumble among each other during the war
So slight correction, Jet can stab but has to be close to do so. Hook blades like he uses have small sharp pointed blade on the bottom, you would reverse the grip to stab, its risky but it is a surprise manuver.
I honestly agree with this verdict although I obtained my answer through separate means. Mostly through power scaling and comparisons. My comparisons were Zuko vs Jet and Azula vs Suki. Both nonbenders lost their respective fights but that's not the point. I don't agree with the abc combat logic but in this sense it works. With Zuko vs Jet, Zuko didn't fire bend at all while with Azula vs Suki Azula used a few fire bending moves. We know Azula is superior to Zuko as Zuko downright states that in a 1 on 1 fight with both of them at their best Azula would win. The final Agni Kai fight doesn't count as Azula had reverted to madness and couldn't think clearly and despite that she held her own against both Katara and Zuko. As such we know Azula is stronger, Suki held her own for a bit but was overpowered while Jet and Zuko were close in terms of abilities yet Zuko won without even needing to firebend while Azula used firebending against Suki. Applying that same logic then Suki is superior to Jet in terms of combat ability.
Okay, so the only thing here I want to clarify is that Suki and the Kyoshi warriors were more aggressive than normal against the Fire Nation Trio because they were attempting to give Appa time to escape. They thought that the Trio were there for the the Bison and not for them, because in context that would make more logical sense in a world that's against the Avatar so I could see that influencing their tactics in that particular fight. Other than that, I agree what puts Suki above Jet is not necessarily any physical advantage but rather her ability to assess her opponent and find an opportunity the longer a fight goes on, something that would be increasingly easy against an opponent like Jet who may change his attack vectors but not his plan of action.
Team Avatar (Aang, Katara, Sokka, Toph, Zuko and Suki) vs White Lotus (Iroh and the others elders that took Ba Sing Se back) considering their Powers Level at the end of the series
Assuming without the avatar state could very very interesting. I would say make sue they have the same numbers or else the side with the most people will have an advantage. At this stage though, gotta give it to the white lotus (assuming the above rules). There are a lot of ties but Zuko is not as strong as Jeong Jeong and this is probably the biggest strength difference in the group (Pinadou also has an advantage over Sokka). Now Aang is a defensive fighter so his advantage over various characters is limited because other fights will be over before he finishes his opponent. And Katara I dont think has enough of aan advantage over Pakku to really make this a short fight.
@@avatarmufasa3628 All depends of the matchups. If they go benders of the same type against one another, I'd totally see the White Lotus prevailling....BUT....I don't think a guy like Sokka would think that to be the best course of action As a metalbender, Toph would take the sword master swiflty, making the balance change. Also, having an airbender in Aang give them some advantage over White Lotus having 2 firebenders.... I would match Katara against one of the firebenders and Aang against Bumi....Sokka could help Zuko with swordfighitning
@@andredossantosalonsopereir6009 At this point in time i doubt Toph will have much success against a refined metal like a sword. Either way Toph has a lot of weaknesses, anyone who can fight off the ground is going to make her hurt (she cant see them). Likewise unless team aang can have a several fights where they dominate, so that those individuals can help out others, they are probably in big trouble If Katara is against one of the firebenders, both firebendes are stronger than she is, but lets assume best case scenario that she stonewalls one of them. Aang is against Bumi, thats gonna be a slug fest, Aang will have an advantage but it will take a while. This means the remaining fighters are Pakku, Piandou and Jeong Jeong. and they are against Toph, Zuko and Sokka.. Assuming this matchup Toph will struggle against Jeong Jeong, any flight ideas place Toph out of action, Pakku can probably stalemate. Yes I think Toph has an advantage against Piandou, but i suspect he can hold on longer than whoever Sokka gets paired against. Zuko is also weaker than Jeong Jeong, maybe...... he can hold himself against Pakku but its hard to say. So even in your pairing off, Id say Team elders are taking an advantage
@West Bradley-Taubner All my anaylsis was the kids as we know them with at most the inclusion of the comics. And Zuko thus far is not on Jeong Jeongs level. "Adult sokka vs Piandao is a close one. " Statements like this however have absoluely no meaning. Its not that its close, its that we dont know
One must also remember that jet has no qualms with killing innocent civilians, let alone his opponent, tactically I would give him the edge, he waged a successful guerrilla insurgency and he actively tries to kill his opponents or anyone who stands in his way, he was also able to break long fengs mind control, I could definitely see suki winning a fair fight but jet would definitely win in some under handed maneuver or suprise. Jet was also shown to be on par with Zuko who trained with piando since he was a child. In rise of kyoshi, the armor she wears was said to not be strong enough to stop a spear, but able to stop a dart or knife, I don't know what the kyoshi warriors wear in the present but the based ot off avatar kyoshi so jet might be able to cut through it especially considering he embedded his sword hilt in a stone wall and cut through a table
The formatting of your videos has been getting so professional and on-point lately. Keep it up !
Thank you, I try! I've always been about pushing my videos forward and trying new things when I think there needs to be a shake up.
Antoine Bandele can you do Ty lee vs asami
@@AntoineBandele can you do eska and desna versus wei and wing like twins versus twin.
@@AntoineBandele Can you do ty lee versus mai pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase
@@AntoineBandele Make Zuki vs Asami 🙏🏽 in the Near by Future.
_Did Jet just die?_
You know it was very unclear
Lol
@@BenDBeast that was a good one
You know it was very unclear
@@caitlyn2910 Nice
"i'm an elite warrior who's trained for many years in the art of stealth.......i think i could get you back stage :)"
This sounds overtly sexual
that part was so cute. suki is just my fave, shes amazing.
@@reapermaster1233 Nah, you're just dirty-minded.
No she said art of stuff
Listening to this analysis, it occurs to me that Jet and Suki's fighting styles reflect the two major styles of earthbending. Jet has the modern tactic earthbenders we see in Earth Rumble or on the battlefield, attack and attack. Suki falls in line with Toph or Bumi's style of fighting, agility and patience. Just one more cultural thing the creators put in for the Earth Kingdom I guess.
They talked about neutral jing outside the context of fighting loads of times in the latest Kyoshi book. It was great.
Well... She is a Kyoshi Warrior which would mean they base their fighting style around Avatar Kyoshi's. She also uses a water bending technique: turn your opponent's energy against them😃
Edit: thanks for the like!
Cap when suki went up against azula she was fighting poor she can't even use a sword
I’m betting for Suki she’s most likely to be more skilled-
yet is just sweeping with da sword thats all he can/does
Yeah I agree
He went head to head with zuko even bested him with the swords he forced zuko to fire bend I think he would win kinda
@@skyezone3429 zuko is good without beding but not that strong. He lost to a weak earth bender from a small city. While suki fought against ty Lee and did not lose and ty Lee won a army of earth benders
@@skyezone3429 he didn't beat zuko with swords but suki would win
Suki will win this fight! She is way more flexible, can fight with many weapons and she could pull toph out of the water with her heavy „armour/clothes“ (really strong) (COMICS SPOILER): later she learned chi blocking easily by ty lee
She is my winner!
I think you're just fanboying. Suki is a better a character yes, but jet is more skilled
@@temilol jet defeated many firebender soldiers and suki lost against one
GOldenPROdigy115 she lost against one of the most powerful soldiers
@@GOldenPROdigy115 jet also has a special way of fighting against benders and not normal people unless they have a sword.
Yeah, suki would win, but not by a lot.
I think Suki would win. She is specialized in her fighting, whatever she uses. If you take away Jet’s weapons he would be less than before. Also, Jet would just be overwhelmed by Suki’s beauty 🌹🙃. Also i have some ideas for next video’s: Appa vs Naga, Bolin vs Earthbending Rumble 6 Squad, Zuko vs Sokka, but only swords, and Jinora vs Ikki AND Meelo.
Zuko vs. Sokka with swords already happened in one of the comics. Sokka kept losing over and over again against Zuko because Zuko had trained with the same master Sokka did except it was a long time ago.
Yeah I just checked and it was in the Lost Adventures and the comic was called Sword Bending.
Appa would eat Naga
Her type of fighting is made for using an opponent's straight against them
You forgot that if you take away jets weapons and sukis weapons too suki will still win for her fast reflexes and would chi block him, and easily suki wins!
Suki be like dead people can’t fight
Imao EXACTLY
😂😂
Bruh
Jet in his debut episode wasn't all that impressive but the fact he went toe to toe with Zuko is sword fight is very telling. Zuko with just those swords was a challenge for Zhao's garnizon.
Suki has the speed advantage she can chi block
Drake flame the dragonoid man yeah, I still think suki would win, but people tend to forget that jet actually has a chance.
How was he not impressive? He was climbing trees fighting an airbender and winning
@@jamie-cx5vr Trees are kind of more of Jet's terrain due to his experience. Plus Aang was hesitating a lot to fight offensively.
@@Reality-Distortion true. But my point was that it's still plenty impressive. You need more than experience to move the way he does in the trees, you need strength. To be able to keep up with a master airbender in a place that clearly gives aang the advantage is very impressive, regardless.
Suki would win in the duel. Suki can still last in long fights and is capable of chi-blocking. She is also the better hand-to-hand fighter. Even though Jet is better with swords, Suki can disarm him. Note: I believe Suki has better REACTION TIME (not going to explain why unless I am required to).
How?
Jets best strength feat: penetrating a rock with sword
Suki: effortlessly breaks rock soldier with a single kick
Literally like...???? Am I fuckin missing something ?!
Personally I believe his best feat is him going toe to toe with zuko (who was trained by piandao at a young age)
Edit: it is still quite one sided but still he has a better feat than that
And in the end he says that Jet has the strenght advantage
What? The rock soldier dummy fell over, it didn’t *break.* saying it was done so without effort is a bit of an exaggeration as well.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 theres no exageration in saying that It was without effort, becouse its a fact. He is good but suki out classes him really bad in a fight
What everyone is neglecting is Jets disarming skills. Suki has 100% never come against hooked swords before and her shield can be easily hooked and stolen. Even if she managed to hold on, Jet would pull her into another slash from a different angle, which she wouldn't be able to avoid.
Also I don't see Suki getting on the inside, close enough to chi block Jet without getting sliced, honestly it would be impossible.
Jet holds the W here just because of his unorthodox fighting that Suki won't be able to figure out.
The only way jet can win is to simply overpower her quickly. If he cant she’ll eventually chi block him with her quick attacks and then the fight is over.
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do you think she'd win if they fought when with they were as strong as they were when Jet was alive
Tuwmaa muhammad at that time then jet probably would win. Suki would get some good hits in but without the chi blocking ability i dont think she would be able to win especially at that time. Suki had gotten stronger at around book three and it was at that time she got a lot more skill because like Antoine said before she was just acting as a cop of some kind but once she got some real experience that was when she became a real contender
Arthur Lin uhm, i dont think its fair to compare an older and better version of suki with a jet that’s now rotting in dirt, we don’t know how he would’ve improved if he was still alive.
tsuyu asui yes but right now we are comparing the characters at there best. We are ocmparing these characters when they were at their strongest. Jet died so this contest was already unfair but thats how this works.
when i saw the thumbnail I thought Suki was Kyoshi, I was like that's not gonna be a fair fight
Suki will definitely win. If Jet wins I’m throwing hands 😤
Jet wins
@@Icky1248 hate to burst ur bubble but he’s dead
I feel Jet is just a bit (and I mean a bit) smarter than we think. I thought it was pretty mindful that Jet kept up with Aang and eventually found an opportunity to take him down and even disabled his glider. Also during the Dai Li fight he seemed pretty aware which we saw when he saved Toph and defended Longshot from Dai Li projectiles which many characters have struggled to even react to.
I guess it's just a shame he died because it definitely feels like while these 2 were both canonically alive Jet would've likely won. Especially assuming like most of the characters he improved over time.
Also if morals are intact Jet could just threaten to flood a village and Suki would just take the L.
Suki is the only one ever to go hand to hand combat with Ty Lee and be the closest in being evenly matched. I don’t see Jet having a chance against her.
true
@@alanuchiha not really
she hasn't really mastered any martial arts
just fire bending , azula liked to cheat just like we've seen in most episodes
OG Paul I think you’re underestimating Azulas martial ability. In the day of the black sun she was able to avoid Sokka Aang and Toph although they weren’t interested in fighting her. Also if you watch her fight scenes with Suki in the forest and her fight at the boiling rock she shows not just her fire bending abilities but her physical training too.
Jason he definitely has a chance but he would ultimately loose.
@@armaanchima9195
I agree Azula is definitely amongst the top 3 hand to hand combatants in the series(ty lee, suki, and azula).
I'd say it goes ty lee(her feats still scale above azula's, ty lee is simply to light on her feat, then suki and azula tie.
Azula and suki were Able to go at it for a decent exchange yes suki was defeated but suki was still able to hang.
Then season 3 suki was on par with ty lee who scales above azula in hand to hand combat, i see suki and azula being fairly even in throwing hands.
Comics aren't being included if so azula is second if not first for sure.
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I just realized they actually never met. Never really thought of that but it kind of hit me :D
Insane, right? They came close at Serpent's Pass but that was it.
They might have at the serpents pass
Simple answer who lived longer when faced with a powerful enemy
Were it not for Sokka, Suki would have been toast in the very first episode she featured in.
Antoine Bandele youre right also if sokka never met her she nah have never gotten more fighting skills and would’ve prob lost to jet easily. But I just like sukis character a bit more than jet
@@OrionG Honestly I feel like a lot of comments boil down to liking her better. The main reason I think she wins is style match-up and more importantly, because she was present for a season and a few comics longer, so she got more feats and spotlight, but for the time they coexisted in the series Jet was either better (Season 1) or at least comparable, possibly better. (Season 2)
Max Mustermann true but the fight is only fair worth the latest/prime version of them not what season one existed in
@@OrionG True, I am ultimately siding with Suki.
In a weapons fight I’ll say Jet but in hand to hand Suki by a mile the thing that’s tough tho is that Suki (even with the weapons) don’t have the arm range that jet has so he could keep a mid range distance with the swords n attack but the moment Suki disarms him it’s over
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I respect the amount of detail, research, time and effort he puts into videos.
I have been waiting a long time for this video and my gess is that suki wins but we will see
Ifk why I think this fight would be a close one jet is a really skilled fighter but suki was trained her entire life and helped protect an entire island
*guess
Sorry its just annoys me
@@reapermaster1233 oh my god I hadn't noticed. He really needs to edit that
I really missed these videos. They're so detail oriented but also take into consideration that concepts and themes at play in the characters.
I also enjoyed the fight animation. It's new, and possibly incomplete?, but it made following your arguments much easier, and generally entertaining, especially since there isn't any footage of Jet and Suki meeting or fighting each other.
At my channel's current size, an animatic like that is likely all I can afford... but better than nothing! I really like that you hone on "take into consideration that concepts and themes at play in the characters." I think a lot of VS don't take this into consideration a lot of the time.
Suki: I've never done anything wrong, ever, in my life.
The fandom: we know this and we love you.
This dude: did I ask?
All this tells me is that Jet would have been a great warrior if he had some formal training.
Imagine if Jet trained under Piandao
He is a great warrior you sound dumb he fought Aang and Zuko
Zuko’s break dancing move, lol, i love that
“ toph I mean melon lord” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hint:
The one with a weapon in two hands won
Spoilers, bruh
So it was a tie? Jet has 2 hook swords
@@alexhamiIton I don't know if your joking or not
WeirdWeeb I am.
I really tired to think hard whether Suki had two weapons or not, knowing damn well she doesn’t.
Can we talk about that sick animatic tho??? What a pleasant surprise that was, it’s so cool to have a visual for this scenario :D Props to the animator, they did a great job!
Check him out in Twitter! @barkokun
I’m really liking how well structured your versus battles are becoming. Once again, well done. 👍🏾
Glad you like them! They definitely are. Though longer... they actually get way more relevant information out.
@@AntoineBandele yeah! And their so fun to listen to! I love these things. Makes me wonder again how Toph vs Bumi would go (hmmmmmmmm........probably not suggestion lol)
As someone who loves power scaling and Avatar, these types of vids you make are my favorite.
Mai Vs Ty Lee next and how Suki go underwater and her makeup not effected?
I mean, suki DID learn how to chi block. I'm on suki's team here... oh wait I'm 3 months late-
omg i am in love with the animation of the actual fight!
Both Jets fights with Aang and Zuko where when he was emotionally heightened so while he was fierce, both those fights he was fighting for a cause, so maybe he was more brash due to that. In the fights with the Fire nation and the Dai Li, he was more in tuned to his surroundings, and more in tuned with the people he was fighting with. I think Jet is a better group fighter and while Suki also is a uniformed fighter with the Kyoshi warriors, she has proven to be a better solo fighter than Jet.This video was good, great job!
Jet is situational because he lacks a solid combat experience so he use environment and wittyness(or wityness, I don't know) to win. Suki is a solid combatan warrior and also ready to face anything (almost anything) where she go. So I will go for suki
The Kyoshi warriors had no combat experience they left the island to help the EK.
Jet had combat experience
Jet has combat experience are you dumb he fought Aang dai Lee and Zuko
Oh I LOVE the full breakdown of the final fight.
“Alright let’s go”-Jango Fett after a Jedi challenged him on Galidran circa 45 bby
Edit non bending vs is my favorite type of vs
Edit 2 thx for 32 likes
Oh yeah, The badass Mand‘alor himself!
Love the video❤️, a fight that I think would be interesting is Katara vs Ming Hua
I won't go back to ATLA vs ALOK for a little while.
Antoine Bandele oh ok, you don’t have to if you don’t want too I just thought it would be a interesting fight
This is a battle I've been waiting to see for a long time! Thank you so much for making his video, Antoine!
I like the little fight simulation thingy with the drawings that you added, it's done so well😭😭
Make sure you shout out the animator on twitter! @barkokun is his tag.
@@AntoineBandele that I shall do
the choreography in that animation is awesome
Check out the animator’s twitter! (@barkokun)
I love that suki and sokka are each others first crushes to play out longer than a moon calling
Ki-adi mundi vs Plo Koon or Han Solo vs Chewbacca would be a pretty cool idea
Plo Kooning better fighter, Mundi better Force User.
Solo is smarter and Chewbacca is stronger. Idk depends on the location, Solo might outsmart him but in a close room definitely Chewi.
I really like the animation you did for this one.
That was all @barkokun (twitter)
Ok lets be real jet might’ve turned around in the end but suki was a good guy all the way, is a Kyoshi Warrior and an battled prince Zuko before joining team avatar and was able to hold him off while the avatar escaped and is was a loved character from the beginning. Not to mention she survived multiple encounters with princess azula. And to be fair, she’s one of the most badass characters PERIOT
I love these videos and i would also love to see more, maybe minghua vs p'li could make a fun matchup
I love the fight animations even if they are so crude!
I hope I can afford them for all the VS matches
yes, the reason Suki can contends with so many fighters (Ty Lee, The Warden, etc.) is because of her ability to size up her opponents and look for an opening, and if you put that together with her incredible stamina and experience with one-on-one dojo fights (where as Jet is more suited for large scale battles and skirmishes), Suki is the clear victor.
Edit: you should do Melon Lord vs Fire Lord/Phoenix King Ozai
The warden is weak
Jet fought Aang and Zuko let's not be bias
I really missed your Avatar Versus videos. Would love to see one with ty lee included in the future
She's a-comin'
Ty lee would absolutely destroy asami
Who would win Freedom Fighters or Sukis group ? I am thinking FF they have their own feats and styles, the other warriors are just Suki but not as good and the teamwork in Ba Sing Se seemed better than the Azula battle.
I'd flip that early fight advantage in jets favor. I think suki is going to have her hands full until she gets his style figured out. Between the reach of his swords and the ferocity of his attacks he just puts too much pressure on her for me to see her risking getting in close enough to do any real damage. It still in my opinion comes out 6/ in suki's favor but she's going to have her hands full off the bat is all I'm saying
Jet does manage to fight evenly with Zuko so I don’t get how he got downplayed so much
Me neither, bro. Me neither.
Loved the video as always and loved the animation to I’m trying to learn to do animation like that now
When u got the white makeup u know ur gonna win
Wow! Nice additions with the animations! I got my tree swinging fun after all!
I'm so happy you updated I love this series
One of the biggest things people need to consider in fights is morality I mean bolin would be placed super high if he had no problem killing people
And people seem to forget who would kill and who wouldn’t I mean katara won’t kill but Amon would and people always forget that
I agree with your outcome, which I wouldn't state here so as not to spoil anything. But my preferred character won.
You brought up some points I hadn't considered (lightning dodging, keeping up with Aang, saving Toph as an endurance test).
Theres also some things I'd have considered that I don't think you did. Jet has a mind for long term strategy, but that does require using his allies (Longshot especially) to compensate for his flaws. Suki in her full garb is slightly handicapped on mobility by the legs being connected, but she could just cut that layer off. Also, against Azula, her objective wasn't to win the fight, but to protect a target, which she did handily, including by adapting to knowledge she just learned mid-battle (Appa's fear of fire) and adding it to her arsenal. I'd argue she is capable of creating a shot, but if it's creating offense, she's definitely a pass first point guard.
I really want to know how she was able to not only capture an Airship, but steer it from the outside.
SUKI PERIODT DIDNT EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO BUT SUKI PERIODT
but jet won
yee sike
@@no-ko1mj Suki won I watched the video now
@@AlesAsmrrr suki is badass jet is like "I SWEAR THEY ARE FIRENATION" the whole entire time
@@eline8801 I mean he wasnt wrong........ Him noticing Iroh heating his tea is actually very smart, nice attention to detail in Jets part
This fight would be a lot like when Darth Zannah duels Set Harth in _Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil,_ with Suki standing in for Zannah and Jet for Set. While there is a major difference or two, the outcome is the same.
I'm sure you're getting this a lot... But the massive production quality jump is fantastic. Keep it up and more custom animation
Thanks man! If I can keep generating healthy views or get more memberships, I would love to continue with more animation or at the very least a motion comic type thing.
We also have to keep in mind that when Suki was facing Ty Lee there wasn’t much space and in basically all of Ty Lee’s fight scenes she uses soooo much space
Suki will win. But this isn’t completely fair. Jet hasn’t had that much screen time, and when compared to Suki, who became part of team avatar (or at least honorary) near the end of book three, he won’t have many feats to scale his abilities to. Jet also has more distinct strengths and weaknesses, which means if the battlefield benefits Jet, he will most likely win. But other than that, any other battlefield would be advantageous to Suki. So depending on where they’re fighting, Jet might have a chance.
Dunno if this counts, but Mai wanted to have Suki and the kyoshi warriors to protect zuko cause she considered them to be great fighters
A clash between the two most underrated non-benders in all of Avatar. IMO, it would've been great if Jet and Suki got a bit more screen time in the show, just so they could have more definitive feats under their belts.
suki definetly has then cool factor lol
Hey! Great video, it was very interesting watch your analisis I like it a lot :D
And just for add something about the fight analisis and because I´m an aikido practitioner, I can tell: The easiest oponents are the ones that attack with brute force, that go head first, the impatient ones and of course, the sword fighters XD (aikido was created to protect a person against bigger oponents or armed ones, specially with swords or blades).
And I have thrown out oponen that were 1.92 mts (I´m 1.61 mts tall), and way heavier than myself tecnique, patience, practice and experience means a lot.
I agree with your outcome, Jet has a lot of strenght, skill and endurance, but his lack of flexibility by adapting yourself to your oponent and his rash way of attack and thing is what makes him loose.
I like it a lot, keep your good work!!
Ps: I´m sorry for my bad english.
My suggestions:
Appa vs June's shrishu
Momo vs poki
Well if Suki was able to avoid a point blank lightning strike against Azula, it shows her quick reaction time, so she would be able to handle Jet a lot easily
Dude the animation you did was sick
Not me. Animation by @barkokun (Twitter).
Good vid, I think suki wins, and I have to comment on the fact that you said he was able to give trouble to Aang wrong, Aang didn't want to fight, held back and barely threw anything and when jet actually took him down he did it mid air while Aang wasn't looking and was trying to grab his staff to escape the confrontation, for another thing if Aang really wanted to go all out he'd take jet even easier then katara, he evaded every attack other then the one from behind, just my opinion on the statement of jet "giving Aang trouble"
"its over Jet, I have the high ground"
"you underestimate my power"
Then he jumps and gets sliced
I don't necessarily disagree with the ruling- but wouldn't Jet's hooked blades be able to bully the shield? Continually grapple it, and moved it?
Ooo that is an extremely fair point.
@@AntoineBandele It may be difficult, due to the angle- but at least with axes, it's not uncommon to see lots of hooking based movements designed to maneuver the enemies shield or weapon, and set up for another attack.
with similar logic- her shield may well be her undoing. It's a sizable target, and if her armor can be trusted to provide protection, it may be best for her to drop the shield entirely, and occupy the hand with something else.
Edit: To expand upon how I'd see such a fight going down- Personally, I think the best chance Jet has would be to exploit the agility and range granted by his weapons to keep constant distance, and outmaneuver his opponent. Likely we'd see the trick where he hooks one blade with the other exploited quite heavily, unless they focused more upon verticality in the fight.
Meanwhile, Suki's best chance would be to use her speed, natural agility, and armor to close the distance on Jet, get within his guard, and then disable him from there.
I suspect the fight could last a while, but the victory would ultimately be won by pressing either of these advantages.
The guy who died?? ( It was very unclear) vs Sokka's Sand Sculpture
"Wow, I can't believe that worked, I didn't even know what I was saying!"
"No, what you said made no sense at all, but look! SUKI!"
I was definitely like ah yeah suki wins before the video started. But the video really showcase jet I forget how cool jet fighting style is. The animated parts was done extremely well
Big shoutouts to @barkokun (Twitter)
Yayyyy! It's back! Again.
Thank you for doing another vs! 😃😂
A channel that talks abt Avatar, mma, bjj, and basketball? hell yea
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After seeing the thumbnail for a moment there I thought this was jet versus Avatar Kyoshi... That would have been tragic
Just came across this, and this makes me sad that we never got to see Jet as a part of Team Avatar, maturing alongside them, and giving us more characterization.
Doesn’t make sense why people are saying Suki would win because Jet’s dead, but then turn around and say that at first they assumed that Suki was Kyoshi because they resemble each other when Suki has the Kyoshi Warrior outfit & makeup on and then say that Kyoshi would obviously crush Jet but don’t mention that Kyoshi’s dead as well..... 🙄🤨
.....like ummmm, DUHHHH. obviously these hypothetical battles are like, what if both fighters were ALIVE & at their peaks and were to have 1 fight between each other....a dead fighter wouldn’t be able to do anything but just rot in their grave the whole fight.... 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ smh....
I think jet would win he put a great fight against zuko who was trained by piandou one of the best swordsmen and he has way more stamina than suki in my opinion, the only way i see suki winning is if she overpowers him in the first few minutes if not jet is for sure taking the win
Katara vs Azulaaaa omggg hahah (also loved this videoo!!! Suki is a fav of mine)
idk why but i wanna see a jinora vs kai fight. ofc shes more skilled as an airbender, but not so much as a fighter as kai isnt as skilled, but a great fighter and uses airbending more aggressively.
Exactly she has raw power making the tornado but that took a absurd charge up time that you can't do in the middle of battle
Smellerbee vs Ty Lee. I like the ending match's silhouettes that is an cool affect to show fighting skills.
16:51 wouldn’t say Long Feng got him by surprise, lol. For 1, Jet turned and threw his sword so you can’t not expect somebody to react. 2, the show specifically shows his eyes getting wide open knowing long Feng was attacking him
I just want to note suki didn't know how to chiblock till after the war so it really depends if this post war or if they happened to stumble among each other during the war
She win in either scenario. Chi-blocking is only highly effective against benders, not non-benders like Jet.
@@AntoineBandele You're forgetting the episode where tylee rendered sokka useless a nonbender
So slight correction, Jet can stab but has to be close to do so. Hook blades like he uses have small sharp pointed blade on the bottom, you would reverse the grip to stab, its risky but it is a surprise manuver.
I honestly agree with this verdict although I obtained my answer through separate means.
Mostly through power scaling and comparisons.
My comparisons were Zuko vs Jet and Azula vs Suki. Both nonbenders lost their respective fights but that's not the point. I don't agree with the abc combat logic but in this sense it works.
With Zuko vs Jet, Zuko didn't fire bend at all while with Azula vs Suki Azula used a few fire bending moves.
We know Azula is superior to Zuko as Zuko downright states that in a 1 on 1 fight with both of them at their best Azula would win. The final Agni Kai fight doesn't count as Azula had reverted to madness and couldn't think clearly and despite that she held her own against both Katara and Zuko.
As such we know Azula is stronger, Suki held her own for a bit but was overpowered while Jet and Zuko were close in terms of abilities yet Zuko won without even needing to firebend while Azula used firebending against Suki.
Applying that same logic then Suki is superior to Jet in terms of combat ability.
Another *awesome* video! Thanks!
Okay, so the only thing here I want to clarify is that Suki and the Kyoshi warriors were more aggressive than normal against the Fire Nation Trio because they were attempting to give Appa time to escape. They thought that the Trio were there for the the Bison and not for them, because in context that would make more logical sense in a world that's against the Avatar so I could see that influencing their tactics in that particular fight.
Other than that, I agree what puts Suki above Jet is not necessarily any physical advantage but rather her ability to assess her opponent and find an opportunity the longer a fight goes on, something that would be increasingly easy against an opponent like Jet who may change his attack vectors but not his plan of action.
Super cool stuff dude !!!
Team Avatar (Aang, Katara, Sokka, Toph, Zuko and Suki) vs White Lotus (Iroh and the others elders that took Ba Sing Se back) considering their Powers Level at the end of the series
Assuming without the avatar state could very very interesting. I would say make sue they have the same numbers or else the side with the most people will have an advantage.
At this stage though, gotta give it to the white lotus (assuming the above rules). There are a lot of ties but Zuko is not as strong as Jeong Jeong and this is probably the biggest strength difference in the group (Pinadou also has an advantage over Sokka). Now Aang is a defensive fighter so his advantage over various characters is limited because other fights will be over before he finishes his opponent. And Katara I dont think has enough of aan advantage over Pakku to really make this a short fight.
@@avatarmufasa3628 All depends of the matchups. If they go benders of the same type against one another, I'd totally see the White Lotus prevailling....BUT....I don't think a guy like Sokka would think that to be the best course of action
As a metalbender, Toph would take the sword master swiflty, making the balance change. Also, having an airbender in Aang give them some advantage over White Lotus having 2 firebenders....
I would match Katara against one of the firebenders and Aang against Bumi....Sokka could help Zuko with swordfighitning
@@andredossantosalonsopereir6009 At this point in time i doubt Toph will have much success against a refined metal like a sword.
Either way Toph has a lot of weaknesses, anyone who can fight off the ground is going to make her hurt (she cant see them).
Likewise unless team aang can have a several fights where they dominate, so that those individuals can help out others, they are probably in big trouble
If Katara is against one of the firebenders, both firebendes are stronger than she is, but lets assume best case scenario that she stonewalls one of them. Aang is against Bumi, thats gonna be a slug fest, Aang will have an advantage but it will take a while.
This means the remaining fighters are Pakku, Piandou and Jeong Jeong. and they are against Toph, Zuko and Sokka..
Assuming this matchup Toph will struggle against Jeong Jeong, any flight ideas place Toph out of action, Pakku can probably stalemate. Yes I think Toph has an advantage against Piandou, but i suspect he can hold on longer than whoever Sokka gets paired against.
Zuko is also weaker than Jeong Jeong, maybe...... he can hold himself against Pakku but its hard to say.
So even in your pairing off, Id say Team elders are taking an advantage
@West Bradley-Taubner All my anaylsis was the kids as we know them with at most the inclusion of the comics. And Zuko thus far is not on Jeong Jeongs level.
"Adult sokka vs Piandao is a close one. "
Statements like this however have absoluely no meaning. Its not that its close, its that we dont know
@West Bradley-Taubner Thx for the sarcastic comment
One must also remember that jet has no qualms with killing innocent civilians, let alone his opponent, tactically I would give him the edge, he waged a successful guerrilla insurgency and he actively tries to kill his opponents or anyone who stands in his way, he was also able to break long fengs mind control, I could definitely see suki winning a fair fight but jet would definitely win in some under handed maneuver or suprise. Jet was also shown to be on par with Zuko who trained with piando since he was a child. In rise of kyoshi, the armor she wears was said to not be strong enough to stop a spear, but able to stop a dart or knife, I don't know what the kyoshi warriors wear in the present but the based ot off avatar kyoshi so jet might be able to cut through it especially considering he embedded his sword hilt in a stone wall and cut through a table
Here's an idea for an avatar versus: Eska and Desna vs Wei and Wing
The avatar twins put against each other
Avatar needs a new fighting/beat em' up game.
Ah-greed!