Don't Let Minervamon Cause a Game Loss! | DCG BT10 Rulings

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  • @codyschulte9649
    @codyschulte9649 2 роки тому +8

    I'm so glad this channel exists, thank you so much for doing what you do, videos like this are so unimaginably helpful

  • @kalamander8563
    @kalamander8563 2 роки тому +18

    While I'm loving the detailed explanation, I can barely read the interaction list on the side past the playmat. I'd suggest in the future making the font a brighter color, or n off color from your playmat

    • @3393matthew
      @3393matthew 2 роки тому +1

      I'd go one further a recommend white text with black outline, it's legible across any background and any brightness

  • @cardfightking
    @cardfightking 2 роки тому +12

    You do not know how bad I needed this video. I'm sharing this in all my servers and pinning it. Ty my JUDGE SAMA ROOOOOBOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @PetenarYT
    @PetenarYT 2 роки тому +4

    This is an excellent example of how digimon tcg effect resolution works. Thanks!

  • @JustDigiTCG
    @JustDigiTCG 2 роки тому +2

    at about 13:21 when you are triggering savior huckmon,huckmon,boahuckmon effects. the sister Ciel played by the savior huckmon would it gain the 2000 dp bust and blanket protection effect from ganko x or will it not due to it not being on field when said effect of ganko X resolved?

    • @TheLifeRuiner
      @TheLifeRuiner 2 роки тому +3

      It's a global effect, so it will remain effective for any digimon that shows up on your field until the end of your opponent's turn.

  • @ekisan7549
    @ekisan7549 2 роки тому +1

    What would happen if you were to play a blocker with minervamons effect? Could you redirect the attack to the blocker? I would say yes, since the gamestate was still processing the "When Attacking".effects.

  • @ZomgXBanned2
    @ZomgXBanned2 2 роки тому +2

    Oh my god, the title of this video and the long build up had me thinking that you were gonna reveal that Minervamon would only be able to call one body since the Sistermon's were called from the same instance.

    • @xero1048
      @xero1048 2 роки тому

      Almost expected this too lmao

  • @BboyTurok1990
    @BboyTurok1990 2 роки тому

    This explanation is helpful for my DC-1 Grand Prix tomorrow since I am playing Jesmon.

  • @Seyunx
    @Seyunx 2 роки тому +4

    Can the minervamon player block if it plays a blocker as part of the on enemy play effect?

    • @gadz00ki
      @gadz00ki 2 роки тому +2

      Yes because the attack has not resolved yet

    • @Justice272
      @Justice272 2 роки тому

      Wait is that true?!?! You can block?

    • @AppleSeedz24
      @AppleSeedz24 2 роки тому

      @@Justice272 yes because blocking happens AFTER every effect revolves and BEFORE you check security. Minerva doesnt play the digimon suspended so a blocker can suspend to block.

    • @AppleSeedz24
      @AppleSeedz24 2 роки тому

      a funny combo as the minervamon player as well if you had the parts is the skull greymon that when trashed places itself under a digimon and inherits retaliation. So if you have a blocker in trash and something that trashes on play and the greymon already in hand you can delete the jesmon by blocking unless they played the sistermon with decoy or have the delete from one of the huckmon go off on it.

  • @robertocervera1929
    @robertocervera1929 2 роки тому +1

    What about if you play a bt10 darkknightmon and you dedigivolve minervamon? Is her effect going to be activated?

    • @ekisan7549
      @ekisan7549 2 роки тому

      No fails to resolve, since minervamon is no longer on the field.

  • @kevinjuarez7740
    @kevinjuarez7740 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! But I have another question.
    Instead of structure Saviorhuckmon I have bt6 Savior, can I attack again with jessmon gx?

    • @TheLifeRuiner
      @TheLifeRuiner 2 роки тому +2

      He explained that in the video. You can't attack again with GX because you're in the middle of an attack while effects are processing, and blitz won't trigger even if it unsuspends, as the timing is missed for the trigger.

  • @crypticDJ
    @crypticDJ 2 роки тому +1

    now. can you declare blockers after minervamons effect to play out digimon resolves? i assume yes since sec hasnt been checked yet

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      Yeah, if you were to play out something with her effect that had blocker, it would be able to block the attack.

  • @ShadowPhantom489
    @ShadowPhantom489 2 роки тому +2

    i actually had a rulings question about something else, but i think this video answered my question by walking through the order of effects. my question was if i was playing a ragnalordmon deck and my opponent had a Deathxmon on the field. if i only had my to lvl 6s on the field at the end of my turn, will i be able to use the end of turn eff to dna digvolve to ragnalordmon then use ragnalordmon's effect to destroy deathxmon before it can destroy ragnalordmon? based on this video, i think ragnalordmon can destroy deathxmon and stay on the field.

    • @TheYairchemla
      @TheYairchemla 2 роки тому

      You're right it will survive in this scenario

    • @fabledfox6228
      @fabledfox6228 2 роки тому

      Yes. Turn player effects always resolve before opponents.

  • @3DHOBO98
    @3DHOBO98 2 роки тому +5

    You should try making the text white with a black outline or black with a white outline. It will show up on any colored background. But great information!

    • @SB0083
      @SB0083 2 роки тому

      Only if the Memory Gauge is on your side. Otherwise, BT-6 SaviorHuckmon becomes a glorified Reboot.

    • @3DHOBO98
      @3DHOBO98 2 роки тому

      @@SB0083 yo what lol.

  • @drpulcinella1870
    @drpulcinella1870 2 роки тому +1

    Really needed this for this Saturday and Sunday. Pretty sure I'ma see a lot of people playing this over hyped deck 😂. Glad I'm not playing Jesmon this weekend

  • @guayaco266
    @guayaco266 2 роки тому

    lets say that instead of the quetzaimon is blockers(devimon/villemon), after the baohuckmon delete one of the blockers, u can use any of the other to block the attack?

  • @benkoehn8402
    @benkoehn8402 2 роки тому

    Referencing 10:30
    If the GX happens to be unsuspended
    Like for example jesmon unsuspended, turn player plays sistermon ciel from hand not by effect
    Memory from playing ciel passes to the opponent
    It’s then triggers jesmon 1st getting sec+1
    Then trigger ciel to digivolve into GX
    If GX tucks Gankoomon in its sources, activates it’s digivolve effect to play a sistermon Blanc, then BLITZ
    Would turn player have to activate the on play effect of sistermon Blanc before all of the on attack triggers of inheritable?
    Just confused on the whole
    Play sistermon, then blitz
    Because obviously blitz must resolve before sistermon on play because it’s GX whole effect
    Or does this somehow make it so that you miss timing on your when attacking inheritable

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      Since the Sistermon is played during the middle of the effect followed by blitz, Sistermon triggers after you Blitz. That would cause the Sistermon and all the When Attacking effects to trigger at the same time and you can activate them in any order.

  • @leonellastrajr8755
    @leonellastrajr8755 2 роки тому

    Quick ruling question on sourai from ex3 before store championships. Does it work the same as innocence blizzard where it checks after it resolves effect or if they evolve over their digimon they can attack? Thank you

  • @Datguy294
    @Datguy294 2 роки тому +2

    anyone know what happens when two digimon are played at the same time while minerva is on field i.e. nailbone or darkskullknight bt7

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      Minerva only triggers once so you’ll only get to play 1 Digimon.

  • @magicgeno4013
    @magicgeno4013 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you robosushi for the vids

  • @qmas1983
    @qmas1983 2 роки тому

    Can you please do a Venusmon vs jesmon triggers after Venusmon when digivolving effect has passed !! There is so many questions on when attacking, when digivolving effects after they play and when they play the Sistermon taht gives them security attack!

  • @nadivel5337
    @nadivel5337 2 роки тому

    I have a doubt, after your second Bt10 Sistermon that you played with Jesmon X antibody "when digivolve" effect, instead of evolving into Jesmon gx, you Evolve it into Bt5 Omnimon that do, When digivolving blitz and when digivolving unsuspend this digimon, so it's gonna be unsuspended and could make a second attack due it's blitz after all the effects are resolved? or how could be the chain of effects in this case?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      You would not be able to suspend Omnimon with Blitz because you are already in the process of attacking and you cannot attack while attacking.

    • @nadivel5337
      @nadivel5337 2 роки тому

      @@R0boSushi So after unsuspend my already attacking Omnimon, it will just remain unsuspended? oohh ok ok, thanks!

  • @brycemiller831
    @brycemiller831 2 роки тому

    So for clarification, with that ordering, BaoHuckmon would delete a 5k blocker that minerva revives with her effect correct?

  • @Targett2
    @Targett2 2 роки тому

    A little confused. The way I've been doing it is going into Jesmon, blitz to attack, then I start at Gurimon and work my way up for effects. Is that not a legal way to do it? Especially the Huckmon effect to search 5 and add all Sistermons that way you have more Sistermons to choose from to play off of Jesmon, Savior, Jesmon X, GX, and Gankoo. I just thought you could resolve when attacking effects in any order you wish. So if you go all the way up to GX going from Jesmon > Jesmon X > Jesmon GX > Tuck the Gankoomon X you have to do all those effects including any Sistermon on play effects before you can move to the inheritables?

    • @fabledfox6228
      @fabledfox6228 2 роки тому

      You can activate the when attacking effects in whatever order you want, but the thing that is happening is when a new effect triggers you have to resolve the newest effects first before going back to ones already triggered. He did it the way he did to show you this.

  • @WonJoonMan
    @WonJoonMan 2 роки тому +1

    THANK YOUUU

  • @FERVBMXQ
    @FERVBMXQ 2 роки тому

    What is the difference between the MetalGreymon [BT1-114] and X Antibody [BT9-109] stack and Jesmon X? Why doesn't MetalGreymon [BT1-112] activate the "When attacking" effect when it digievolves with X Antibody [BT9-109]?

    • @MojoStrummer
      @MojoStrummer 2 роки тому

      Jesmon X isn't a when attacking, it's a when Digivolving. When attacking triggers at the attack declaration, not just during the attack. So when you say "I'm attacking x with y" you start triggering any when attacking effects that are already out. If you digivolve mid attack, that effect was not on the board when you declared so it doesn't activate. Jesmon X Antibody and Jesmon GX don't have attack effects, they have when Digivolving effects, which trigger on digivolve, regardless of when that digivolution is.

  • @jorgelopez-er9xz
    @jorgelopez-er9xz 2 роки тому

    I have a doubt: if I have an unsuspended jesmon with a lot of inherited "when attaking" effects and i digivolve it into a jesmon gx , causing the memory to pass the opponent's side; first the "when digivolving" effect trigger and for example i put a gankoomon x-antybody under his digievolution sources trigering the effect to play a sistermon and then blitz ; so in this moment since i have to finish the blitz effect first, i declare an attack, the question is: What effect do I have to activate first? the on play effect of sistermon or the effects of "when attaking"?(excuse me if my english is bad, it's not my language)

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому +1

      I may have worded that part a little poorly, my apologies.
      Since the part to “…Activate one of its When Digivolving effects.” Is in the middle of the effect, before the last part that triggers Blitz, it is still considered part of GXs effect as a whole. This mean you have to fully resolve every part of GX before you technically trigger any new effects.
      This means that the new On Play effect of the Sister and the When Attacking effects all are said to trigger at the same time and you can activate them in any order.

  • @AresOMegas
    @AresOMegas 2 роки тому

    Hey, very informative video as always. Quick question, let's say I have an EX2 Sakuyamon on board and I play an Evolution Plug-In S to evolve into Maid Mode. Ex2 Sakuyamon's effect for DP- still triggers from playing the option and will resolve after I am done with the Maid Mode effect, right? You said that the DP part of ST Jesmon would not activate if we didn't use it first in that bracket, is it the same for Sakuya since the digimon doesn't posses the effect after evolving through an effect?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      The effect of Sakuya does not activate. Since Sakuya itself is no longer the active Digimon on field, it cannot activate its effect.

    • @AresOMegas
      @AresOMegas 2 роки тому +1

      @@R0boSushi great thanks a lot for the answer 👌

  • @akuma1921
    @akuma1921 2 роки тому

    I thought there was a differentiation between the keywords “get” and “gain.” Gain meaning it’s Global, Get meaning it’s for Digimon on the field at the time of the effect.
    So Jesmon X Antibody & Gankoo X, just to reclarify, both will give the +2000DP to Sistersmons played after each of the aforementioned digimon have used their effect? If so then why?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому +1

      Get and gain are basically the same thing, just a different word used, at least for the purpose of global effect. The main thing that makes something global is when it states “all of your digimon…” This makes the effect more or less affect the player thus making anything the player plays or raise also have the effect.
      In the case of Jes X and Gankoo X, they are both global since they give “all your Digimon” and don’t target specific Digimon that have to already be on the field. Thus, making all digimon you play until the end of your opponent’s turn gain the effects given by them.

  • @antoniorand1833
    @antoniorand1833 2 роки тому

    Question: since you digivolved to jesmon x, wouldnt all of the when attacking effects lose the activation timing?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      No, the When Attacking effects are still all present. They just get delayed and have to activate after the new pending effects.

  • @VindeZwarts
    @VindeZwarts 2 роки тому

    So I'm guessing that if you swing with blitz into minerva with blitz and use the other effects first then when attacking effect she doesn't trigger?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому +1

      The attack doesn’t make contact until you finish activating all pending effects. So if she was suspended and instead of attacking the player, you attacked Minerva, everything would still happen the same but Minerva would just get deleted by battle at the end instead of a direct attack at security.

    • @PKSkyler
      @PKSkyler 2 роки тому

      @@R0boSushi If you delete Minerva with an effect while attacking and summoning sistermon's, does Minerva get its pending summons or does it just get its on deletion ?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому +1

      @@PKSkyler it will just get its On Deletion. When it tries to play something with its effect, the original effect is no longer there so it will fail to play anything.

    • @PKSkyler
      @PKSkyler 2 роки тому

      @@R0boSushi Thank you. final question, if I use Back For Revenge on a Cerberusmon/Minervamon, can I order my On Deletion effects as I wish? Such as, trigger Minerva on deletion to summon lvl 5, then use Back for revenge on deletion to summon Minerva?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      @@PKSkyler Yes, they both trigger at the same time and you can choose their order. If you activate Back For Revenge first, you would not have them in trash to activate their other On Deletion effects. But, if you activate the Minerva/Cerberus first doing that effect, you can then activate the On Deletion effect from Back For Revenge without losing out on your other effect

  • @animerobbie
    @animerobbie 2 роки тому +1

    Im whole heartedly confused how this was done and if anyone can explain im all ears cuz IDK how this all happened. In the Rule book How attacks play out says the steps are: declare, activate on atk effs and resolve, opp activates when attacked effs and resolves, block/ security check, resolve end of atk effs and deletion effs only THEN reslove effs that occur due to battle. Going along this chart i would say the turn goes evo, blitz, resolve ESS, play sistermon, sistermon then is pending resolution, resolve the atk then the eff of sistermon goes off as it was played as a result of an atk being declared not it keeps stacking at infinite like show here or is my base understanding incorrect. Please i need to understand what is happening here this is waaaay to confusing if anyone has the patience to deal with my stupidity XD.

  • @heaimalavara1249
    @heaimalavara1249 2 роки тому

    I love this stuff do more big combos like this.

  • @PKSkyler
    @PKSkyler 2 роки тому

    Seems like rest of Jesmon's When Attacking effects should resolve before the when digivolving, such as the Bao delete. Otherwise why does digivolving with X Antibody option make you miss further when attacking effects? I think that all the when attacking effects of Jesmon have to go off before Minerva's effects and security checks Bao inherit shouldnt be able to delete the digimon that Minerva summons.

    • @JakeBrozek
      @JakeBrozek 2 роки тому +1

      I thought that too. Didn't he do a past video where he said all things that trigger at 1 have to be resolved before moving to the things that trigger at 2

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      In Digimon, newly triggered effects have to activate before the previous ones. When digivolving into Jes X, you don’t miss the effect, they just get pushed back basically. The only effect that could have been missed is the Your Turn effect of Jes because if you don’t activate it first, then when you try and activate it later, the effect is no longer there since you digivolved over the source, Jesmon. That help make sense?

    • @PKSkyler
      @PKSkyler 2 роки тому

      @@R0boSushi It does make sense, but I'm confused on why you can us the X Anotbody When Attacking and it misses further When Attacking triggers on the newly evolved Digimon, but this doesnt.

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      @@PKSkyler I may be misunderstanding the question but the effect of Jes X is not a When Attacking effect, it's a When Digivolving effect. There are no new When Attacking effects at any point after the initial Blitz. Any new When Attacking effects would not be able to trigger since you are already in the middle of an attack anyway.

    • @PKSkyler
      @PKSkyler 2 роки тому

      @Trip 6 I understand all that. Just wondering why you miss out when attacking effects of new Digimon when digivolving with an X Antibody Option. For example, old Omnimon X antibody cant get its when attacking when you digivolve via x antibody. Thats why all the X Antibody Digimon have When Digivolving or End of Attack effects. I felt like the Baohuck inherit was similar but maybe not.

  • @joshgipson4300
    @joshgipson4300 2 роки тому

    So are you able to use saviors effect twice from the one attack or is that a mistake?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      No, it’s a Once Per Turn and it’s only activated in this example at the end. The Jesmon is what is activated at the start.

  • @Unknownerror6400
    @Unknownerror6400 2 роки тому

    in a more simple turn basically all jesmon eff activate before minervamons eff can activate

  • @TeamTrollJk
    @TeamTrollJk 2 роки тому

    How would this cause a game loss of someone did it in the wrong order?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      Depending on the cards played throughout, how far into the effect resolution the players are, and when they play out the cards with Minerva, if a mix of all that goes wrong and several cards have been drawn, played, trashed, etc by the effects, the game state can be deemed irreversible if you calls a judge over. Irreversible does not always mean accepted gamestate. This can lead to penalties such as a game loss in official event. Worst case scenario that is.

  • @jermaineevans6910
    @jermaineevans6910 2 роки тому

    Is there any way that a Gazimon in trash could be played with Minervamon's ability to stop the Ciel's memory gain?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому +1

      If you forget the memory gain from the Ciels, yes. You would play the gazi after GX finishes, then when they try to gain with Ciel Gazi blocks it. That was one of the situations I alluded to with why it’s best to activate Ciel 1st

    • @ThomasAFN316
      @ThomasAFN316 2 роки тому

      @@R0boSushi at 12:46 would the ciel from savior gain memory if any of the first 3 digimon from minerva was a gazi?

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому

      @@ThomasAFN316 Nope, since the gazi is on the field and you have to activate the Ciel since it is the newest pending effect, it will not be able to gain the memory

    • @jermaineevans6910
      @jermaineevans6910 2 роки тому +1

      @@R0boSushi This helped out a lot. It's a common situation that will come up in the Minervamon match-up. Thanks for the help.

  • @BigTLarrity
    @BigTLarrity 2 роки тому

    Great vid, I do have a question: is it possible for my opponent to somehow miss the Bao trigger, like if they swung and activated bottom up and verbally say Bao has no target?

    • @coffeedudeable
      @coffeedudeable 2 роки тому

      Yes. Bao is optional so they can miss it if they do not declare at the right time

    • @R0boSushi
      @R0boSushi  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, most won’t but if you declare that you use the bao effect without a target, it is used up since it is mandatory. That is if you have sister in play. Without a sister you won’t meet the activation requirement so you can technically trigger and activate it later that turn if you have a sister.

  • @tuongpham7609
    @tuongpham7609 2 роки тому +4

    I left yugioh for a reason.

  • @jimmymc1188
    @jimmymc1188 2 роки тому

    The when digivoling effect was triggered after minervamon effect was so minervamon resolves first.