Can i ask you to add the price too your videos please. As very handy for references. Now i do go by the link but it disappeared when the boat is bought.
Great question. I personally am satisfied with the Lagoon recommended fixes. I understand that not everyone is, and that is fine. I've spent a LOT of time sailing onboard 450's offshore with the "bad bulkheads" and didn't have any unusual flex or ever feel concerned for my safety. Truth be told... I was hoping the market for 450's would tank, but it never happened.
Pardon my ignorance, but are those reels on both port and starboard right above the sugar scoops mounted to the rails, are those fire hoses? Or is that rope reels or something else. Sorry don't mean to sound dense, just curious. Thanks Wiley. Still my favorite catamaran expert.
Cannot believe the price of a model (L450) that has such massive quality issues & questions hanging over it. A 2018 model probably has not done enough nmiles to show the potential bulkhead problems. Personally would not even consider this model due to the potential risk, even though it is a well equipped boat.
Jim, I think the failure of Lagoon with the 450 was a public relationship failure versus a design flaw. I've personally spent a couple thousand miles offshore on the 450F and 450S, and have always found them to be a safe, comfortable, and sea worthy boat. But hey... What do I know?
![2021 Lagoon 450S LADA [Walkthrough w/ Commentary]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/v5b9j_VpDFI/mqdefault.jpg)
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Nice presentation as always Wiley.
Thanks Greg. It’s easy when it’s such a nice boat
No bulkhead issues??
Of-coarse there are issues, I can't believe the price of these things considering all the design flaws.
Such a NON issue bro.
Such a non issue.
@@catamarancentral please explain how broken bulkheads are a none issue
Can i ask you to add the price too your videos please.
As very handy for references.
Now i do go by the link but it disappeared when the boat is bought.
Mark, we're going through the process of changing the links so it will not die when the boat sells. Thanks for that feedback. Much appreciated.
what about bulkhead issues on lagoons
Great question. I personally am satisfied with the Lagoon recommended fixes. I understand that not everyone is, and that is fine. I've spent a LOT of time sailing onboard 450's offshore with the "bad bulkheads" and didn't have any unusual flex or ever feel concerned for my safety.
Truth be told... I was hoping the market for 450's would tank, but it never happened.
Pardon my ignorance, but are those reels on both port and starboard right above the sugar scoops mounted to the rails, are those fire hoses? Or is that rope reels or something else. Sorry don't mean to sound dense, just curious. Thanks Wiley. Still my favorite catamaran expert.
Great question. Those are mooring lines for stern too mooring.
Does the La Pavoni come with it?
Of course ;)
Cannot believe the price of a model (L450) that has such massive quality issues & questions hanging over it. A 2018 model probably has not done enough nmiles to show the potential bulkhead problems. Personally would not even consider this model due to the potential risk, even though it is a well equipped boat.
Jim, I think the failure of Lagoon with the 450 was a public relationship failure versus a design flaw. I've personally spent a couple thousand miles offshore on the 450F and 450S, and have always found them to be a safe, comfortable, and sea worthy boat. But hey... What do I know?
@@catamarancentral you know how to make videos.the design was flawed and their response was terrible.stay in your lane Wiley
@@tomcraddock244 how many miles do you have sailing on a 450?