Thanks for the excellent review Devvon! Regarding integrating a sub, you can actually use the ALT out for the sub. All you need to do is disable auto-muting for monitor switching in the MBOX Control software and then assign monitor mutes too a couple of the User Action buttons. That will allow you to pop the sub in and out with a button press. You could also do something similar with the line outs/sends if you want to run 2 sets of analog monitors plus a sub. The S/PDIF dig out can also be used for digital monitors aso that's an option as well if your monitors or sub have a digital input. Lots of ways to customize workflows when you start digging into MBOX Control. Cheers! 🤙🏽
Being it ended up priced $600 it's a lot for that price. It also has some built in effects for the headphone mixes and the talkback can be routed to a track. Seems like a good bang for the buck interface
Thanks for doing this I think it's the perfect addition and little brother to my Carbon and would be great for traveling. It's built to tackle a wide range of session scenarios, plus the additional ADAT inputs could allow for tracking a full band with an added 8 channel preamp like the focusrite 8 channel preamp for example.
Yes. I just wish u could daisy chain carbon and mbox studio like Apollo does. Keep mbox on desk easy access and monitor controller carbon in rack. Talking to Sweetwater sounds like pt didn’t do this like UA Apollo it’s a extension to there rack allowing it to be so many things.
. I loved the old mbox and was pretty bummed when avid discontinued them.. But i gotta say I'm a little taken aback by the design.. Im not quite feeling it right of the bat.. The dj mixer look will have to grow on me..
Excellent review Devvon, especially the listening tests. Through K240DF phones I hear pretty much what you've described. For me the Mbox Studio preamps are just acceptable (compared to the pricier Prism) and I'm surprised by how good the Mbox convertors sound in this test. Coming from a 1U interface the desktop form factor would take some getting used to, but I do like the ergonomics - layout and large well-spaced controls. Thanks for sharing this.
I don’t think if this interface was given to billy eilish brother Or a big producer we could tell the difference in converters in the final mix. It’s so so so minimal it’s hard to hear. Apples to apples with no dsp on. Blows my mind some mixes I hear through cheap $150 interfaces on UA-cam. It’s a struggle because I’m a gear head. I own a Apollo twin. Makes me think about selling it for this the Bluetooth output is so dope. And the software I mix on a avid 100k mixer for FOH live sound This shares a lot of that same routing and suggests. Brilliant
Alright, I been biting my tongue for a few days now, but I gotta say it… that thing is ugly af to me 😂 However, they did a good adding a million and 1 features. I’m now slightly more intrigued. Great review my brotha!
I'm just learning to mix and cut vocals, I can't make beats but plan to learn that too.... I have the 3rd gen i820 .. thinking of getting this... is this not good for a beginner like me?
Hey devvon i have the Mackie Big Knob studio monitor interface and i was wondering if it’s worth upgrading to the mbox are the mic pre amps that much better??
Video idea : You should do a video on a MQA Or A DAC! I think it can help alot of artist , and would be something cool to know wether it’s needed or not! And etc.
I think if u use the Adat output u can gain another 8 outputs so therefore yes. Atmos can be tricky because the magic that genelec does for example on there room correction SAM system it time delays ea monitor and the height channels so it sounds like it should then u get the Dolby renderer Some workarounds but I think u could do a 18i20 Adat
So in other words, this isn’t for no rookies that are just getting started and just trying to make trap beats. Lol This is for your more seasoned producers and engineers that has some skin in the game and already mastered their crafts in audio and recording engineering.
If youre just getting started i cant imagine someone purchasing a piece with all of the capabilities of the MBOX. But one thing is for sure if the purchased the MBOX as their first interface they wouldn't need to buy another one for a VERY LONG TIME
It sounds good but how does it translate to real world. Am I going to be fooled by the openness in studio and feel like I have to adjust the mix in the car?
That’s a monitor issue you’re speaking of… the interface is only the vessel to carry what you’re doing. Doesn’t matter what gear you have when your ears are the most important tool You have.
@@SupremeSpeaking I went from a m-box 3 to an Apollo Twin, using the same speakers. The difference was clear. I’m going to wait or a few reviews to come in before I’d consider switching interfaces still.
WACK! They give you free stuff to check out, but they wont even give me decent service or the things I paid for; after several attempts with service tickets and even contacting an Avid manager!! I"M MAD
Ive been thinking about that alot actually unrelated to the MBOX. With the power of new computers do we really still care so much about DSP in our interfaces. Im genuinely opening up this convo for perspective
MBOX Studio has a 4 band parametric EQ on every input as well as a stereo Delay/Reverb FX bus built in for low latency tracking workflows. They're also AVID effects algorithms taken directly from AVID AAX plug-ins so they're high quality.
They did say in their literature and I think also in the Sweetwater review "On-board DSP provides access to EQ, delay, and reverb effects which can be monitored via the headphone outputs, helping to maintain low-latency performance during tracking. The DSP is also used to power a built-in instrument tuner."..but yeah unless you are a Post Studio or doing a TON of tracks, DSP is barely needed anymore IMO.
Are u doing stem mixing, are you using all the outputs to a summing mixer? These are the things I’m referring to as far as not just cutting vocals. I just feel like if you’re gonna get this piece understand that you should be truly using what it’s capable of ya kno!
Well the thing about specs is ur reading numbers. I can show you 100 dollar stuff that has better specs than something something 5 times it’s price. That why the key is in listening straight up. Use your ears not a spec sheet to make a decision
Avid support is the worst. They don't even bother with driver updates to fix widespread problems. It might work for now but next time you update your windows it could become a brick and they won't care. Be warned.
Thanks for the excellent review Devvon! Regarding integrating a sub, you can actually use the ALT out for the sub. All you need to do is disable auto-muting for monitor switching in the MBOX Control software and then assign monitor mutes too a couple of the User Action buttons. That will allow you to pop the sub in and out with a button press. You could also do something similar with the line outs/sends if you want to run 2 sets of analog monitors plus a sub. The S/PDIF dig out can also be used for digital monitors aso that's an option as well if your monitors or sub have a digital input. Lots of ways to customize workflows when you start digging into MBOX Control. Cheers! 🤙🏽
Yes thank you john im going to pin this comment so people can see the way to do it.
You can download the MBOX test files I created here helpmedevvon.com/products/mbox-studio-audio-test-files
It has the features of the old Eleven Rack minus the digital amp modeling. That's actually quite a cool idea.
Thanks for this video man very helpful
Being it ended up priced $600 it's a lot for that price. It also has some built in effects for the headphone mixes and the talkback can be routed to a track. Seems like a good bang for the buck interface
Thanks for doing this I think it's the perfect addition and little brother to my Carbon and would be great for traveling. It's built to tackle a wide range of session scenarios, plus the additional ADAT inputs could allow for tracking a full band with an added 8 channel preamp like the focusrite 8 channel preamp for example.
Yes. I just wish u could daisy chain carbon and mbox studio like Apollo does. Keep mbox on desk easy access and monitor controller carbon in rack. Talking to Sweetwater sounds like pt didn’t do this like UA Apollo it’s a extension to there rack allowing it to be so many things.
Wow! Your content is top-notch. Would you mind sharting what was your process was for testing the converters?
A great review, and a great channel. Selling me on this device!
. I loved the old mbox and was pretty bummed when avid discontinued them.. But i gotta say I'm a little taken aback by the design.. Im not quite feeling it right of the bat.. The dj mixer look will have to grow on me..
I got the one you talking about.
Thank you! I’d like to see a SSL 12 vs Mbox studio comparison.
that's a damn fine and thorough review
Can you make a tutorial on how to set up the loopback option
Definitely we need this!!
I’m afraid to get it with everyone saying the drivers won’t update once my computer dose so idk ?
Excellent review Devvon, especially the listening tests. Through K240DF phones I hear pretty much what you've described. For me the Mbox Studio preamps are just acceptable (compared to the pricier Prism) and I'm surprised by how good the Mbox convertors sound in this test. Coming from a 1U interface the desktop form factor would take some getting used to, but I do like the ergonomics - layout and large well-spaced controls. Thanks for sharing this.
I don’t think if this interface was given to billy eilish brother Or a big producer we could tell the difference in converters in the final mix. It’s so so so minimal it’s hard to hear. Apples to apples with no dsp on. Blows my mind some mixes I hear through cheap $150 interfaces on UA-cam. It’s a struggle because I’m a gear head. I own a Apollo twin. Makes me think about selling it for this the Bluetooth output is so dope. And the software I mix on a avid 100k mixer for FOH live sound This shares a lot of that same routing and suggests. Brilliant
Hey bro, is avid hardware exclusive for protools or could I use ableton lite with it?
@@puercoespinetayes you can use it with anything
Do the MBox vs Apllo Twin
I keep seeing this so challenge accepted
@@HelpMeDevvon🙌🙌🙌🙌 Thanks a lot 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@@HelpMeDevvonwould love to see that too
Have u this this video yet 👀 I can’t find it
How is the Mix/Master sound quality on the Mbox compared to Avid Carbon
Would you add an external mic pre to this unit? Im wanting to get a Bae 1073, and a Distressor. Would that be a good buy?
Yes! 💯
Devvon, what about round trip latency, could you check the milliseconds on 44.100khz/24bit/256buffer size and 128buffer size?
Bro do u think u can connect adat an APollo x8p to this mbox?
Alright, I been biting my tongue for a few days now, but I gotta say it… that thing is ugly af to me 😂 However, they did a good adding a million and 1 features. I’m now slightly more intrigued. Great review my brotha!
Excelent review!
Love the review,just subscribed and like, can you talk more about the soft Wear that is included with the mBox? Does it come with instruments ?
Hi. Good video. Please can you tell me the spec of your computer because Avid haven't put out the computer spec you need for this Mbox. Thanks 🙏🏽
Could you let us know what it is made of ? Plastic or metal ? Did it feel solid in the hands ? Many thanks
It s work good with mini mac M2 ?
I'm just learning to mix and cut vocals, I can't make beats but plan to learn that too.... I have the 3rd gen i820 .. thinking of getting this... is this not good for a beginner like me?
I just upgraded from a 3rd gen focus rite I hope it a good choice.
And what is your conclusion?
How do you feel about it?
M-Box converters sound the best
Fire hand acting!
Lmfao
Hey devvon i have the Mackie Big Knob studio monitor interface and i was wondering if it’s worth upgrading to the mbox are the mic pre amps that much better??
How does the latency compare to other USB interfaces?
Is it better than apollo twin duo? All i need to know
Not better. Just very comparable plus it offers different functionalities depending on your workflow.
@@lujithegenie1 elaborate how it isn’t.
@@SupremeSpeaking Sorry for the delay. I will respond though. Thx.
Do you still offer mixing services ? if so where can i purchase this. Thanks
Video idea :
You should do a video on a MQA Or A DAC!
I think it can help alot of artist , and would be something cool to know wether it’s needed or not! And etc.
He did a video a while back on that I believe
Do they have this in USB?
MBOX Studio is usb
Wow I started off on a old mbox
Does anyone know. How many Bluetooth devices can be connected at the same time on the Bluetooth output For example. 3 pairs of AirPods ?
Just one on the input and another on the output
Can this box be used for Dolby Atmos 7.1.4?
I think if u use the Adat output u can gain another 8 outputs so therefore yes. Atmos can be tricky because the magic that genelec does for example on there room correction SAM system it time delays ea monitor and the height channels so it sounds like it should then u get the Dolby renderer Some workarounds but I think u could do a 18i20 Adat
Seriously? Why don't you compare UAD twin X4 or RME baby face with Avid MBOX?
So in other words, this isn’t for no rookies that are just getting started and just trying to make trap beats. Lol This is for your more seasoned producers and engineers that has some skin in the game and already mastered their crafts in audio and recording engineering.
If youre just getting started i cant imagine someone purchasing a piece with all of the capabilities of the MBOX. But one thing is for sure if the purchased the MBOX as their first interface they wouldn't need to buy another one for a VERY LONG TIME
@@HelpMeDevvon That's very true.
I guessed that A was the cheap one and that B sounds the best 😄😄😄
It sounds good but how does it translate to real world. Am I going to be fooled by the openness in studio and feel like I have to adjust the mix in the car?
That’s a monitor issue you’re speaking of… the interface is only the vessel to carry what you’re doing. Doesn’t matter what gear you have when your ears are the most important tool
You have.
@@SupremeSpeaking I went from a m-box 3 to an Apollo Twin, using the same speakers. The difference was clear. I’m going to wait or a few reviews to come in before I’d consider switching interfaces still.
WACK! They give you free stuff to check out, but they wont even give me decent service or the things I paid for; after several attempts with service tickets and even contacting an Avid manager!! I"M MAD
C is the best quality
no dsp integrated... shame :(
Ive been thinking about that alot actually unrelated to the MBOX. With the power of new computers do we really still care so much about DSP in our interfaces. Im genuinely opening up this convo for perspective
MBOX Studio has a 4 band parametric EQ on every input as well as a stereo Delay/Reverb FX bus built in for low latency tracking workflows. They're also AVID effects algorithms taken directly from AVID AAX plug-ins so they're high quality.
They did say in their literature and I think also in the Sweetwater review "On-board DSP provides access to EQ, delay, and reverb effects which can be monitored via the headphone outputs, helping to maintain low-latency performance during tracking. The DSP is also used to power a built-in instrument tuner."..but yeah unless you are a Post Studio or doing a TON of tracks, DSP is barely needed anymore IMO.
@@jdub70 I think it looks cool actually, and having used Carbon the mic pres are really nice...great price too.
all that and he doesn't post a link to the artist and song? come on bro. use the channel as cross promotion. your tracks are banging. ONG!
Lmaoo thank u and yes it’s me I need to promote my own music more u right lol
So you don't think cutting vocals is serious enough to be considered a serious engineer? That cuts lol
Are u doing stem mixing, are you using all the outputs to a summing mixer? These are the things I’m referring to as far as not just cutting vocals. I just feel like if you’re gonna get this piece understand that you should be truly using what it’s capable of ya kno!
som1 paying this guy
Yeah got the price of this I’m cool
👍🏾
A lot of money for a reamp box 😂 LOTS of ins and outs 😂
hardly just a re amp box LOL
It’s way more than a re amp box. The mere fact that it has that is impressive on it’s on 🤷🏽♂️
the Apogee duet 2 has better spec than this VCR !! just a bunch of I/O !!!! i remember the old mbox sucked lol
Well the thing about specs is ur reading numbers. I can show you 100 dollar stuff that has better specs than something something 5 times it’s price. That why the key is in listening straight up. Use your ears not a spec sheet to make a decision
Avid support is the worst. They don't even bother with driver updates to fix widespread problems. It might work for now but next time you update your windows it could become a brick and they won't care. Be warned.