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@@scroopynooperz9051Chinese fleets are still German. People think changes are only in one direction when reality is like a pendulum or iteration cycles...
Lol that's not the Japanese mantra at all 😂 That wouldn't explain Toyota being at the top and making quality cars for multiple decades. The real question is how all the traditional car industry players have been caught with their pants down by the up and coming Chinese Automakers? Has Chinese innovation really been that rapid?
Close but not right. After they reached "peak", they chose to focus on profit and financial engineering instead of true engineering that got them where they are. In other words, they became the American manufacturers that focuses on everything except technical innovation.
i have seen many EV camping trip videos on chinese tiktok....damn...they have many innovative camping gears and gadgets designed for EV that you can literally build an air-inflated living room on the back of your parked EV. in that air-inflated living room, you can put an air-inflated couch, a video projector, a screen, a portable bath tub....in it....😮😮😮
@@4-SeasonNature The car's battery is 60KWhr. I budget about 6KWhr per day camping. It's no problem for two or three nights. Beyond that you would be best advised to get regular top up charges.
I just went to China and Japan. Japan looked like is was developing well until the 90' and stopped there. China has moved into the space age future and blows Japan away in almost every aspect now.
Plaza accords, Japan was going to surpass US economically then the US castrated their economy. China can not be contained by US because they are not occupied hence why China is the enemy.
i know both countys well and it is the opposite .china still has millions of poor people living in misery. i guess you have never been to japan.50cent army imao.
My colleague said the same, they have been both places, they prefer China much more than Japan, more space, more modern, more high tech, more options, and much affordable.
Today's Japan is like China in the Qing Dynasty. At that time, China failed to reform because of the traditional inertia of thinking and the traditional conservative forces. At that time, Japan's reform was easier to succeed. As a result, Japan is rising rapidly, becoming an economic and military power from a subordinate country of China.
I hope Japan chooses the right side. i grew up in Japan as a teenager. Privately they are not really fond of America / Western culture. They think American music is cringe, English language is awkward. We were forced to take English class in public schools, we all hated it. But they feel they have to adapt to the American culture out of fear and pressure. I remember one funny kid in class said, we have no choice but to learn English - if we didn't, you know they have those airplanes fly by and we'd all be screwed. Thene veryone including the teacher laughted. I'm sure you know what he was referring to . But privately they think their own Japanese culture is more civilized and higher level than the American. With the rise of China, this validate their view that our Asian brotherrs are just as good if not better than crude Americans.
Yes, the Japanese are well known for their humanity to cultures whom they consider inferior. China, Korea, Australia, NZ, US, Britain, Burma, Indo-China, Malaya etc await an apology. "Loss of face" is meaningless to humane cultures.
Yours is one perspective. Another perspective is that Japanese are wildly fond of American culture, and they admire Americans for their directness and open mindedness, even if they make fun of Americans privately. Furthermore, they understand that the really messed up segments of American society tend to be pretty much the same demographic.
@@Javafixtime more like the land of wokeism and entitlement. Majority of innovators in America are immigrants, at least half are Chinese or Indian descendants.
I lived in Japan for 3 years while working as a designer at Toyota; this was due to them wanting to bring in the silicon valley culture and creativity from the US. I found that there is great respect for the USA in Japan. They respect China's innovation as well, as we worked together to study that market, in fact we took many trips to Shanghai as Toyota has an office in China. It's not a binary choice as you say. There are many sides, not just two. I hope China, Japan and the US will thrive.
Most people don't realize that Japan was a consumer electronics giant with brands like Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi, Toshiba and Sharp etc..., but they never made it in the cellphone or smartphone sector even before the smartphone era. China ate their lunch in the smartphone and now in the flat panel HDTV and EV sector as well !
Japan made cellphones and smartphones, but not very famous, mostly JDM (Japan domestic market). Sony smartphones are still available now, very good but expensive and lacks of dealerships.
Japan was top in microchips, the empire took it away, Samsung and TSMC the beneficiaries. the price of losing the war. the same is happening to Germany today.
@@willengel2458 The Japanese have an IQ of 110 and will not buy a product unless it is high quality and highly functional. Japanese companies have failed to develop products with medium functionality and half the cost (i.e., half the selling price) for the world's average person with an IQ of 95. Half of the world's semiconductor manufacturing equipment is made in Japan, and two Japanese companies (Sin-etu and Sumco) manufacture 2/3 of the world's silicon wafers.
The Japanese are still great at manufacturing. However, they just don't have the scale of the Chinese industrial capacity. Even the Japanese cars have many parts made in China nowadays.
Gotta remember that Japan succeeded the same way China did. Their people were poor, they deflated their currency, and everyone worked hard as hell. Then you get rich and no longer have the spirit/desperation that led you there. Life is more about comfort than competition. It’s just a constant cycle. It’s why America had so many waves of different immigrants. They are desperate, they work hard, if they succeed they now look to import a new batch of underprivileged individuals who will work their asses off and produce for the country
A very good point, previously much overlooked in the debate. If people power their homes from their vehicles it will reduce the strain placed upon The Grid by EV charging and people can charge theie vehicles at off peak periods!
I know we are mostly EV supporters in this channel, comments are all one sided. But is there a chance that the ICE will have a chance to come back, since China is banned by USA everywhere.
@lucky889s9 - True. I owned Prius and hybrid RAV4 when the purchase prices were acceptable. With NEV and continuing improved battery and over all technology bring excellent alternative.
The Chinese don't 'look down' on the Japanese. Historical grievances aside, most Chinese find Japanese culture to have a lot of admirable qualities that are worth emulating.
Nope. Younger generation in China laughed at Japans stubborn, conservative, inflexible and unenergetic society a lot online and label the Japanese a thief of chinese culture(many so called Japanese culture do come frm China)
I had a Honda Civic for 18 years from the age of. 16! Bought it for 18,000 dollars never changed anything on it Except the batteries and tires Last 5 years I stopped any maintenance on it Car got hit from behind the insurance company gave me 2000 bucks for it
I can’t remember anyone laughing at the Honda Civic in the 1970’s. My mother had one. Dad drove a Mercedes 350 SE and he thought the Honda was a great car.
We stopped laughing at Japanes cars when their innovation, value and quality went up (under normal business conditions). We still laugh at China because their quality is suspicious, their innovation is from stolen means and their competitiveness is not obtained through fair normal business conditions but rather nefarious state backing pretending to be a company. Japan and China is not the same and not on equal abilities or progress. It is right to still doubt and look at China in a suspicious and reserved and even justified to be lacking in praises.
Imagine combining this new EV feature of using your car's batteries to power your home with the new paint Mercedes claims to generate a couple of kwH per day just by leaving your EV outside.. That's game changing stuff... An EV car being the cornerstone of energy independence and grid decentralization? Who coulda seen all this coming 20 years ago?
FINALLY, JAPAN starts pulling it's socks up & starts buying Chine EV's. This may turn the tide for EV's in Japan, despite Toyoda's ignorance etc. Well done BYD!
The Japanese relied to heavily on the US market and their dislike of Chinese products ( at least on the surface). Now it's too late to try to catch up. Counting on the US in any way seems to come with its perils
Japan has a lot of Earthquakes . BYD EV's will be able to provide emergency backup power in case of local power grid failure ! It is likely that all doctors / nurses in Japan are requested to drive BYD EV's to the Hospitals in future .
@@johnnyng8527 This is exactly what one BYD owner did in rural Australia. The area power was down and her son was in desperate need to hook on to his home dialysis machine. She connected it to her BYD Atto 3 battery. Saved his live because she chose to go electric.
_More contemporary EV means using electricity only thus Japan would import less exorbitant oil for those petrol car consumption wise and save more taxpayers money_
That is going to hold for a lot of countries that don't have a domestic oil supply. Using "homegrown" wind and solar rather than constantly paying for imported fuel helps the balance of trade. And for many countries, moving to EVs means much lower health costs as fossil fuel pollution is eliminated.
That's true, but Japan has been under great political pressure to import more to offset its export success. Importing crude from the Arabs while exporting technological goods meant a great advantage in value added. Now that those days have passed, I'm not sure that this reasoning is still valid. All the TV sets in the big-box stores around here are Chinese brands. None of the computers are Japanese brands.
There are a big difference on power to load and power to grid; no synchronization and a lot less rules. Nisssan Leaf should be obvius choice with Chademo.
Toyota & Honda have failed miserably for not adopting Nissan's lead in BEVs well over a decade ago. Today, China has surpassed Japan in every BEV metric. Arrogance has its pitfalls.
Toyota believes there are many parts of the world not ready for BEVs especially adfordability and charging infrastructure. Places like Africa, South America, Middle East, Russia, India and South East Asia. It would take several decades more for the full transition to take place.
Nissan only made EV when Carlos Ghosn asked them to make Leaf. Pissing off some ICE parts mafia and middlemen. We know what happened to him after. They criminalize that gaijin
Even Nissan can't compete with chinese brands in terms of technology, design, price, labor, durability etc. They still got NMC battery with heat runaway, while chinese already using LFP gen 2.0
The V2L is something really good to have. Yes, you can have a back up generator. But you know, you have ICE for it. And ICE likes to run. You are going to have more headache for an ICE by runing it onece or 2 times a year than runing it 24/7. Electric stuff are simple, flip the switch, it either works or it doesnt. But usually, it works due to its simplecity. And if you are using Ev, then you know it will work because you just drove the thing few hours ago.
It's over for Japan. Arrogance, complacency and corruption saturate their corporate and political arenas. RIP to Japan's global relevance. Being a US lapdog has its pitfalls.
In the near future, if you want to live in a country where you can enjoy the latest technology, early on, in abundancy, at an affordable price, you’ll have to live in Asia. Nowadays, western companies are looking more like Kodak, the latest examples are Boeing, Volkswagen, Stellantis and others, where greedy short term dividends are competing with long term visions.
I think vehicle to grid could be a big disruptor to centralised electricity power utilities who would want to keep control of energy transmission and the profits that flow from it.
Japan is experiencing the creep effect from Chinese cars. UA-camrs I watch, who are living in Japan have been happily driving ICE cars for so long. I never thought they would change as the whole environment in Japan is still pretty much ICE. Then, they were introduced to electric. They seem to be expressing a desire to buy now. Wow!!! In my opinion I think it's a no-brainer if you love pollution-free environments (assuming enough confidence in the technology and the manufacturer).
Instead of trying to control every country on the earth, US should be about spending money to upgrade or building new processing plants to use it own oil. But the US would rather force other countries to sell them oil at a cheap price. The US has plenty oil, but no infrastructure to process it. Did I see this a while back and is it true?
The strength of Chinese EV lies in their battery. An EV car without the battery which is the beating heart of the engine, is just an empty shell. Anbody can make a fancy empty shell with enough dedication and time. This is nothing new compared to legacy automobiles.
If this is a feature that becomes ubiquitous on all their EVs, this would be a complete GameChanger. Note that your electricity utility could go down and you could just plug in your car to your house terminal and use the battery on the car. Also, apparently Mercedes has cracked a new car paint job that can generate a few kWh of energy a day just by parking it in the sun. You combine these technologies and you have a seriously disruptive EV package
EVs are far cheaper to operate per mile than ICEs, while electricity can be collected on school or airport roofing, and also via floating solar panels (over reservoirs). With the yen falling, imports of energy are getting especially pricey.
I have never thought about such use case to use the battery in a EV instead of the wall battery. Compared to the battery in a BYD auto three the Tesla wall battery is so expensive. Would you make the decision is so clear to buy a bunch of battery pack that you can also drive.
the simple fact is the Japanese Auto Companies is not offering a product and a solution to the customer on hand , just that customer happen to be the Japanese Government this time , and well credit where credit's due , some had to do with the government and how they go about planning, building, and implementing infra structure and of course the energy strategy Japan want to place , do remember , Japan relay almost 100% on outside source for energy
There is another interesting story here. It's not so much that the Japanese government is buying Chinese BEVs to power their infrastructure in an emergency scenario. It's why don't they buy from Nissan? For example, the Leaf has had V2G since 2014. It was in the upgraded spec Mk1 Leaf and it certainly is in the Mk2. The Chademo plug/socket system was designed to do reverse charging/powering. So what's going on at Nissan. This is almost the bigger story.
From watching the comments of Japanese people in various Japanese news videos reporting on this car brand, it can be seen that the Japanese people really dislike EVs and hate Chinese cars/products. However, some Japanese politicians seems to do not care or are not aware of this and allow this project to happen. There is also criticism that Japanese media should be against Chinese cars, but they don't.
There are oil and sparepart mafia. They profit so much so many years from ICE sparepart. Even some executives of Japan car brands, are also sparepart suppliers. They don't wanna change their way. Carlos Ghosn forced Nissan to make Leaf because he foresaw EV was the future. And along the way cutting off suppliers and middlemen. We all know what happened. They criminalize that gaijin
So, the Japanese government is not yet buying the cars, but has planned / is planning to use the their batteries for storage in case of natural disasters. OK, not /exactly/ the headline but I see what you mean. It would really be unbelievable if the Japanese government were to buy Chinese cars for its fleet, to be honest. I cannot see that happening, can you?
Part of Sydney CBD experienced black out not long ago. Police direct traffic while waiting for electrician connect generators to traffic electric box. Should the Japanese government like arrange in place, a police BYD car arrive at no time,power the traffic light. No need to wait for electrician, no need to manual direct traffic, and the road user don't even know there is a black out. Should cars BYD power the water pump at the nuclear power plant in 2011 in Japan, they would not have blow up.
You heard the latest news? BYD is making their own car carrier ships to hold more than 5000 cars on board and ship gonna be fully powered by blade batteries. Fuel is only used as generator for charging those batteries at sea and not that often
there's nothing wrong with most of the Japanese cars, they're just not competitive enough in certain markets. They'll do great with in US with import tariffs sheltering their business still.
U Do know the global is so much bigger than the US market and if Japanese cars can't compete Internationally, It's a matter of time they got eliminated right?
I think they are buying it for the batteries which are supplied by CATL to BYD. CATL was a company started by China after buying TDK batteries of Japan. So why did TDK sell it in the first place? Lack of foresight or lack of confidence in the EV market. Remember Toyota alone employs half a million workers in its factories in Japan tied to combustion engines. Hence, they were very reluctant to jump into EV space as they didn't want to lay off all those people. Even now Toyota is still experimenting with combustion engines using hydrogen as fuel. China on the other hand had nothing to lose and no industry to safeguard. So, they jumped on the EV bandwagon full force.
CATL battery to BYD?? Ever heard of the BYD Blade battery? Japanese TDK battery was nothing more than ordinary. CATL innovated its complete different lithium car batteries.
@TechCrazy I think it was TDK who bought the previous ATL. ATL founder Robin Zeng worked under TDK till around 2010 then started CATL with a group of investors with 85% ownership, TDK 15%.. But Robin Zeng's group eventually bought the remaining shares 5 years later.
toyota's CEO needs to be fired. he kept saying EV isn't the future since 3 years ago, and look at the result now. EV sales are growing, while ICE shrinking
How long has the Leaf 2nd generation been running with the Chademo connector and passive battery cooling system? How long did it take for the Ariya to get to production? Let’s see how long they last?
No they dont, they are however expecting foreign acquisitions enabling them to transition in the near future, they cant do themselves otherwise they would have done so a decade ago
@@mamacryright5740 I suspect they're not trying very hard. But all of them have some fantastic looking vehicles coming in '26, '27, and beyond. They're behind Tesla and the Chinese by about 10 years, so IDK if they can survive but anyway, competition is a great thing and hopefully we'll all benefit from it soon.
BYD can easily cheaply get into the US car market. Just tell Trump you wanna hire his grand daughter and pay her 2 million a year plus perks ...whalla... he'll cut them in by quickly excepting BYD on all tariffs .
World competitive market, Japan just goes with latest features at value pricing. This is free market competition. Social democracy; every buyer of that EV product gets the benefit of development gov subsides. Not discriminating rebates for some taxpayers for cars made in certain countries. Japan recognition of grid backup in case of Tsunami wipeout of powerplants. Japan knows they cannot copy China EV features at lower cost. It's like your mobile phone as optional power source or wifi hotspot for other devices.
If the Australian govt wants more vehicle to home cars to help alleviate the burden of the Elec grid, they should provide bigger rebates on EVs when those EVs are sold in Aust.
EVs may cause fuel prices to increase. EVs consume huge amounts of fossil fuel and petrochemicals. If EVs continue to replace the internal combustion engine cars, will the oil companies be able to provide the fuel and petrochemicals for their manufacture?
Talk about a profit margin. Buy FIVE Tesla Powerwalls or ONE BEV. If you buy the BEV you get the sam amount of storage and tons of additional functionality for MUCH LESS than the cost of those Powerwalls. No wonder Tesla's balance sheets look so good!!!!
For Japan a very volatile geographical area, i.e., volcanoes & fault lines are waking up, not before time, Japans slow efforts all because of the opinion of one man, Mr Toyoda, ridiculous!
ah the now the right to access the V2H API begins. The IEEE Standards for this are only just now be thrashed out. The Japanese gov will be getting a custom API, which makes sense. Only they and their Electric companies will have access to control the cars. The car companies take the opinion that they control access and they get a cut. All of them are planning this.
In the US many said disruption was the future like Uber and AirBNB...well now that disruption is not so cool..figures right. Like Republicans MAGA... it's cool till it affects them ..
At least the Japanese are qualified to be a competitor/qualifier in the EV race. The extremely super power on the internet, India, is not even in the race and does not even qualify to be a competitor. 🤭
LOL, Japanese are doing like Volkswagen Group, choosibg old solutiobs for bext year models... For hybrid models, Chinese brabds will have Xpeng Motors Kunpeng EREV System, with 430km autonomy only on electricity and a motor to recharge the battery to extend at least 1000 more kilometers (1400 km total autonomy at least)... Jaésmede brands will payBYD for their old system, but will not use the bery good E4 system of the Yangwang models (U8 Premium, or U9 flr example), but a cheaper solution even worse than the E3 probably... Xpeng Motors is creating the future, and Volkswagen Group choosed the old but excellent chassis of the G9. They choosed this when the new SEPA2.0 (Smart Electrical Platform Architecture) Platform was launched. They prefer bad and cheap thongs, which are ancient... This is the bad strategy of Audi, which made them loose their 4 wheels 0000 gaining 0, making them usobg AUDI brand rather....
if you dont allow your citizens the best technology in the word, you may as well be a third world country and just get used to watching the rest of the world like an Amish kid eyeballing a Lambo at McDonalds. Good for Japan not forcing its citizens to settle for "shit" from the failed ability to compete in a world market. Learning opportunity.
The Achilles Heel is not range and charging infrastructure like folks claim. It’s taking care of one battery. 60-40, 60-40, sometimes 80-20. Letting gov employees or rentals is a problem. I suppose algorithms could fake users, but don’t care for the battery you’ll need a new one in a couple of years and that is ok under warranty, until it’s not.
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Nothing wrong. Chinese government also used to buy from Japanese carmakers.
Given Japan's proud automaking history, wouldn't it be a bit of a national embarrassment to have most of their fleet be Chinese cars?
@@scroopynooperz9051Chinese fleets are still German. People think changes are only in one direction when reality is like a pendulum or iteration cycles...
@@scroopynooperz9051 Why would it be? They were not embarrassed to make Chinese writing system their own before.
it is an indirect admission that Chinese cars are as good or perhaps better than Japanese cars themselves
@@harysastrayes, they did a couple of tear down of the Chinese made EV, and they were shocked by the design.
i think the Japanese corporate strategy is: once you hit peak success, there's no need for further progress.
Lol that's not the Japanese mantra at all 😂
That wouldn't explain Toyota being at the top and making quality cars for multiple decades.
The real question is how all the traditional car industry players have been caught with their pants down by the up and coming Chinese Automakers?
Has Chinese innovation really been that rapid?
Funny that was the American strategy .
@@scroopynooperz9051 japanese cars disrupted the industry, now it's chinese cars.
Close but not right. After they reached "peak", they chose to focus on profit and financial engineering instead of true engineering that got them where they are.
In other words, they became the American manufacturers that focuses on everything except technical innovation.
Japan had a good system. Then they sent all their executives to the USA to get MBAs and diluted their core values
A neat feature of the Atto3 is to take it camping. Besides lighting, and cooking, you can air condition your tent. Very nice.
That's the sort of camping trip I want.....an air-conditioned tent
i have seen many EV camping trip videos on chinese tiktok....damn...they have many innovative camping gears and gadgets designed for EV that you can literally build an air-inflated living room on the back of your parked EV.
in that air-inflated living room, you can put an air-inflated couch, a video projector, a screen, a portable bath tub....in it....😮😮😮
Won't the car's battery be drained faster this way?
@@4-SeasonNature The car's battery is 60KWhr. I budget about 6KWhr per day camping. It's no problem for two or three nights. Beyond that you would be best advised to get regular top up charges.
@@jimgraham6722 Thanks.
I just went to China and Japan. Japan looked like is was developing well until the 90' and stopped there. China has moved into the space age future and blows Japan away in almost every aspect now.
Plaza accords, Japan was going to surpass US economically then the US castrated their economy. China can not be contained by US because they are not occupied hence why China is the enemy.
i know both countys well and it is the opposite .china still has millions of poor people living in misery.
i guess you have never been to japan.50cent army imao.
My colleague said the same, they have been both places, they prefer China much more than Japan, more space, more modern, more high tech, more options, and much affordable.
@@carlbothmann Clearly you haven't been to China, even the rural areas are pretty nice nowadays. I just moved from Beijing to Yunnan.
@@carlbothmann For a brief moment, I thought you are talking about US of A 🤣
I used to work for orix japan, japanese culture is difficult to turn around and adapt. It is like a huge oil tanker turning around at the sea
Today's Japan is like China in the Qing Dynasty. At that time, China failed to reform because of the traditional inertia of thinking and the traditional conservative forces. At that time, Japan's reform was easier to succeed. As a result, Japan is rising rapidly, becoming an economic and military power from a subordinate country of China.
So, China EVs are doing business in Japan instead of USA. This is like the USA shifting LNG shipments from China to EU and 3 times the price.
China is ahead of the competition
No way 😅😅
You figured that out all on your own? 😂
@@sriken9To be fair. Who would dare claim that a year and not be heckled back, even one year ago China was ahead.
No,UA will be leader forever,MAGA
@@sriken9 that is the fact whether you admit or not
I hope Japan chooses the right side. i grew up in Japan as a teenager. Privately they are not really fond of America / Western culture. They think American music is cringe, English language is awkward. We were forced to take English class in public schools, we all hated it. But they feel they have to adapt to the American culture out of fear and pressure. I remember one funny kid in class said, we have no choice but to learn English - if we didn't, you know they have those airplanes fly by and we'd all be screwed. Thene veryone including the teacher laughted. I'm sure you know what he was referring to . But privately they think their own Japanese culture is more civilized and higher level than the American. With the rise of China, this validate their view that our Asian brotherrs are just as good if not better than crude Americans.
Yes, the Japanese are well known for their humanity to cultures whom they consider inferior. China, Korea, Australia, NZ, US, Britain, Burma, Indo-China, Malaya etc await an apology. "Loss of face" is meaningless to humane cultures.
Yours is one perspective. Another perspective is that Japanese are wildly fond of American culture, and they admire Americans for their directness and open mindedness, even if they make fun of Americans privately. Furthermore, they understand that the really messed up segments of American society tend to be pretty much the same demographic.
America is still the land of innovation.
@@Javafixtime more like the land of wokeism and entitlement. Majority of innovators in America are immigrants, at least half are Chinese or Indian descendants.
I lived in Japan for 3 years while working as a designer at Toyota; this was due to them wanting to bring in the silicon valley culture and creativity from the US. I found that there is great respect for the USA in Japan. They respect China's innovation as well, as we worked together to study that market, in fact we took many trips to Shanghai as Toyota has an office in China. It's not a binary choice as you say. There are many sides, not just two. I hope China, Japan and the US will thrive.
Most people don't realize that Japan was a consumer electronics giant with brands like Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi, Toshiba and Sharp etc..., but they never made it in the cellphone or smartphone sector even before the smartphone era. China ate their lunch in the smartphone and now in the flat panel HDTV and EV sector as well !
“They never made it in those sector even before the smartphone era”---> "China ate their lunch" ?
Japan made cellphones and smartphones, but not very famous, mostly JDM (Japan domestic market).
Sony smartphones are still available now, very good but expensive and lacks of dealerships.
@@byddf sony's smartphone are failing even at their home turf lol
Japan was top in microchips, the empire took it away, Samsung and TSMC the beneficiaries. the price of losing the war. the same is happening to Germany today.
@@willengel2458 The Japanese have an IQ of 110 and will not buy a product unless it is high quality and highly functional. Japanese companies have failed to develop products with medium functionality and half the cost (i.e., half the selling price) for the world's average person with an IQ of 95.
Half of the world's semiconductor manufacturing equipment is made in Japan, and two Japanese companies (Sin-etu and Sumco) manufacture 2/3 of the world's silicon wafers.
The Japanese are still great at manufacturing. However, they just don't have the scale of the Chinese industrial capacity. Even the Japanese cars have many parts made in China nowadays.
Japan cannot beat the labor, material, machine price. That's why their brands were all made in china now
Gotta remember that Japan succeeded the same way China did. Their people were poor, they deflated their currency, and everyone worked hard as hell. Then you get rich and no longer have the spirit/desperation that led you there. Life is more about comfort than competition. It’s just a constant cycle. It’s why America had so many waves of different immigrants. They are desperate, they work hard, if they succeed they now look to import a new batch of underprivileged individuals who will work their asses off and produce for the country
A very good point, previously much overlooked in the debate.
If people power their homes from their vehicles it will reduce the strain placed upon The Grid by EV charging and people can charge theie vehicles at off peak periods!
Japanese auto industry is done. They are completely dependent on North America market. Most countries prefer affordable NEV and maybe hybrids.
USA USA all Camry's hybrid also hybrid corolla and prius
I know we are mostly EV supporters in this channel, comments are all one sided. But is there a chance that the ICE will have a chance to come back, since China is banned by USA everywhere.
Not in Sri Lanka, BYD cars are more expensive than the Japanese, Korean, and American vehicles. A BYD Dolphin costs 45,000 USD in Sri Lanka.
Hybrids more expensive to maintain both the ICE and batteries
@lucky889s9 - True. I owned Prius and hybrid RAV4 when the purchase prices were acceptable. With NEV and continuing improved battery and over all technology bring excellent alternative.
The Chinese don't 'look down' on the Japanese. Historical grievances aside, most Chinese find Japanese culture to have a lot of admirable qualities that are worth emulating.
Nope. Younger generation in China laughed at Japans stubborn, conservative, inflexible and unenergetic society a lot online and label the Japanese a thief of chinese culture(many so called Japanese culture do come frm China)
你能代表大多数中国人吗😅
@@zmy-d9m Japanese people originated from southern China....
Been mentioning about V2G/V2H before and the benefits. Just makes a lot of sense!
IN 1974 WE LAUGHED at the crappy little Honda Civic & in 1980 we proudly bought a Honda Civic
In 1977 I bought a Datsun pickup which was a great little machine. Drove it 300,000 miles with only minor repairs.
I had a Honda Civic for 18 years from the age of. 16!
Bought it for 18,000 dollars
never changed anything on it
Except the batteries and tires
Last 5 years I stopped any maintenance on it
Car got hit from behind the insurance company gave me 2000 bucks for it
I can’t remember anyone laughing at the Honda Civic in the 1970’s. My mother had one. Dad drove a Mercedes 350 SE and he thought the Honda was a great car.
@@antonilavin2488many did as at the time a tiny low equipment car...was a new concept in many markets
We stopped laughing at Japanes cars when their innovation, value and quality went up (under normal business conditions).
We still laugh at China because their quality is suspicious, their innovation is from stolen means and their competitiveness is not obtained through fair normal business conditions but rather nefarious state backing pretending to be a company.
Japan and China is not the same and not on equal abilities or progress.
It is right to still doubt and look at China in a suspicious and reserved and even justified to be lacking in praises.
Very clever video Mate
The Chinese with battery swapping stations instead of super charging stations is genius.
那个制造商的想法是用电池存储廉价的太阳能能源，和廉价的夜间火电能源，把汽车电池作为国家能源基础设施的一部分，又能提升不便于充电的城市高楼居民电车用户的用车感受。目前来看他的想法遇到了困难，持续亏损，但是国际资本在用行动持续支持他的想法😂😂😂😂
夜间电，即使时工业用电也就0.4元每度，白天的电，国家电网批发给这个电动车制造商的电池交换站，应该也会很便宜，但是他出售给用户可能是1.3元每度，甚至更高
Somebody near my work in Osaka has a BYD, and a level 2 charger on the outside of the building
Imagine combining this new EV feature of using your car's batteries to power your home with the new paint Mercedes claims to generate a couple of kwH per day just by leaving your EV outside..
That's game changing stuff... An EV car being the cornerstone of energy independence and grid decentralization? Who coulda seen all this coming 20 years ago?
FINALLY, JAPAN starts pulling it's socks up & starts buying Chine EV's. This may turn the tide for EV's in Japan, despite Toyoda's ignorance etc. Well done BYD!
Nah, Japan is left too far behind in EV game. It's over for them
Really interesting. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The Japanese relied to heavily on the US market and their dislike of Chinese products ( at least on the surface). Now it's too late to try to catch up. Counting on the US in any way seems to come with its perils
😂all those japanese products are all made in china
Japan has a lot of Earthquakes . BYD EV's will be able to provide emergency backup power in case of local power grid failure !
It is likely that all doctors / nurses in Japan are requested to drive BYD EV's to the Hospitals in future .
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@@johnnyng8527
This is exactly what one BYD owner did in rural Australia. The area power was down and her son was in desperate need to hook on to his home dialysis machine. She connected it to her BYD Atto 3 battery. Saved his live because she chose to go electric.
_More contemporary EV means using electricity only thus Japan would import less exorbitant oil for those petrol car consumption wise and save more taxpayers money_
That is going to hold for a lot of countries that don't have a domestic oil supply. Using "homegrown" wind and solar rather than constantly paying for imported fuel helps the balance of trade. And for many countries, moving to EVs means much lower health costs as fossil fuel pollution is eliminated.
That's true, but Japan has been under great political pressure to import more to offset its export success. Importing crude from the Arabs while exporting technological goods meant a great advantage in value added.
Now that those days have passed, I'm not sure that this reasoning is still valid. All the TV sets in the big-box stores around here are Chinese brands. None of the computers are Japanese brands.
@@warheadsnation
The only Japanese smartphone brand Xperia has stopped selling here due to poor demand.
Major imported EV sales result in Japan in November 2024: BYD 119 units (-28.3% y/y), Hyundai 35 units (-5.4y/y%)
Why? Cause it's f..king good!
There are a big difference on power to load and power to grid; no synchronization and a lot less rules. Nisssan Leaf should be obvius choice with Chademo.
Toyota & Honda have failed miserably for not adopting Nissan's lead in BEVs well over a decade ago. Today, China has surpassed Japan in every BEV metric. Arrogance has its pitfalls.
Toyota believes there are many parts of the world not ready for BEVs especially adfordability and charging infrastructure. Places like Africa, South America, Middle East, Russia, India and South East Asia. It would take several decades more for the full transition to take place.
@fauzanriez9472 But still....Toyota = FAIL
@@fauzanriez9472so why spend billions on an even more impossible to support technology like liquid hydrogen?
Nissan only made EV when Carlos Ghosn asked them to make Leaf. Pissing off some ICE parts mafia and middlemen. We know what happened to him after. They criminalize that gaijin
Even Nissan can't compete with chinese brands in terms of technology, design, price, labor, durability etc. They still got NMC battery with heat runaway, while chinese already using LFP gen 2.0
The V2L is something really good to have. Yes, you can have a back up generator. But you know, you have ICE for it. And ICE likes to run. You are going to have more headache for an ICE by runing it onece or 2 times a year than runing it 24/7. Electric stuff are simple, flip the switch, it either works or it doesnt. But usually, it works due to its simplecity. And if you are using Ev, then you know it will work because you just drove the thing few hours ago.
It's over for Japan. Arrogance, complacency and corruption saturate their corporate and political arenas. RIP to Japan's global relevance. Being a US lapdog has its pitfalls.
How are they a "US lapdog" and what relevance does that even have?
@ChickensAndGardening
In the near future, if you want to live in a country where you can enjoy the latest technology, early on, in abundancy, at an affordable price, you’ll have to live in Asia. Nowadays, western companies are looking more like Kodak, the latest examples are Boeing, Volkswagen, Stellantis and others, where greedy short term dividends are competing with long term visions.
I think vehicle to grid could be a big disruptor to centralised electricity power utilities who would want to keep control of energy transmission and the profits that flow from it.
What is the protocol? Normal, a grid connected inverter has first to check is the grid operating before feeding in.
With heating via heat pump, cooking, charging my PHEV and other uses I am using up to 80KWh per day
Japan is experiencing the creep effect from Chinese cars. UA-camrs I watch, who are living in Japan have been happily driving ICE cars for so long. I never thought they would change as the whole environment in Japan is still pretty much ICE. Then, they were introduced to electric. They seem to be expressing a desire to buy now. Wow!!! In my opinion I think it's a no-brainer if you love pollution-free environments (assuming enough confidence in the technology and the manufacturer).
Instead of trying to control every country on the earth, US should be about spending money to upgrade or building new processing plants to use it own oil. But the US would rather force other countries to sell them oil at a cheap price. The US has plenty oil, but no infrastructure to process it. Did I see this a while back and is it true?
why cant I buiy an XPENG MONA M03 in Portugal .I have the pennies so where is my Mona M03 in shiny blue standard specification .
Blame your government for the tariffs and taxes
Some Chinese car models are not meant to export overseas. The Xpeng Mona series is probably not for the European market.
The strength of Chinese EV lies in their battery. An EV car without the battery which is the beating heart of the engine, is just an empty shell. Anbody can make a fancy empty shell with enough dedication and time. This is nothing new compared to legacy automobiles.
Sun Tzu had said "Know yourself know the enemy!"
Amazing technology, use EV as a power supply to a house.
If this is a feature that becomes ubiquitous on all their EVs, this would be a complete GameChanger.
Note that your electricity utility could go down and you could just plug in your car to your house terminal and use the battery on the car.
Also, apparently Mercedes has cracked a new car paint job that can generate a few kWh of energy a day just by parking it in the sun.
You combine these technologies and you have a seriously disruptive EV package
EVs are far cheaper to operate per mile than ICEs, while electricity can be collected on school or airport roofing, and also via floating solar panels (over reservoirs).
With the yen falling, imports of energy are getting especially pricey.
Toyota will not be furious as they buy themselves cars from BYD also and only put their logo on.
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that hair mate !!! its the Cure look :)
I have never thought about such use case to use the battery in a EV instead of the wall battery. Compared to the battery in a BYD auto three the Tesla wall battery is so expensive. Would you make the decision is so clear to buy a bunch of battery pack that you can also drive.
Blackberry Corp didnt go bankrupt. It is still a profitable company.
Japan is smart and is providing better product for its people. Perhaps those existing companies will pull finger and develop more.
the simple fact is the Japanese Auto Companies is not offering a product and a solution to the customer on hand , just that customer happen to be the Japanese Government this time , and well credit where credit's due , some had to do with the government and how they go about planning, building, and implementing infra structure and of course the energy strategy Japan want to place , do remember , Japan relay almost 100% on outside source for energy
Like to Japanese are a different race than the Chinese ....maybe cultural discrimination, but really just a technology gap.
What’s the point? BYD also provides electric buses in America? So nothing spectacular.
How do cars reverse charging?
There is another interesting story here. It's not so much that the Japanese government is buying Chinese BEVs to power their infrastructure in an emergency scenario. It's why don't they buy from Nissan? For example, the Leaf has had V2G since 2014. It was in the upgraded spec Mk1 Leaf and it certainly is in the Mk2. The Chademo plug/socket system was designed to do reverse charging/powering. So what's going on at Nissan. This is almost the bigger story.
Guess the japanise still produce more car for other contries, they just have factories in other countries?
Smart wish US / GM understood this
Why buy batteries with wheels for these applications? They just cost more. Doesn't make sense
Pronunciation. Ni-ssin is the cup noodle brand. Ni-ssan is the car manufacturer.
Yup..back in 1970s we laughed at Japanese Car being milo tin cars and even Benson and Hedges cigrate box metal sheets....
Vehicle to Grid or Vehicle to home is Most essential. Your Car serves as Power station 🍻🥂🥂🥳
Where is Carlos Ghosn?
They're going to study it and reverse engineer it to help their local brands.
From watching the comments of Japanese people in various Japanese news videos reporting on this car brand, it can be seen that the Japanese people really dislike EVs and hate Chinese cars/products. However, some Japanese politicians seems to do not care or are not aware of this and allow this project to happen.
There is also criticism that Japanese media should be against Chinese cars, but they don't.
There are oil and sparepart mafia. They profit so much so many years from ICE sparepart. Even some executives of Japan car brands, are also sparepart suppliers. They don't wanna change their way.
Carlos Ghosn forced Nissan to make Leaf because he foresaw EV was the future. And along the way cutting off suppliers and middlemen. We all know what happened. They criminalize that gaijin
Competition is awesome for innovation, tariffs not
So, the Japanese government is not yet buying the cars, but has planned / is planning to use the their batteries for storage in case of natural disasters. OK, not /exactly/ the headline but I see what you mean. It would really be unbelievable if the Japanese government were to buy Chinese cars for its fleet, to be honest. I cannot see that happening, can you?
Just make sure they're not connected to the internet, otherwise the China could disable the vehicles when it suits the CCP to do so.
Nah, the Us regime will be more likely to do that. Just check out wat muricans did to the Nord stream pipeline during Ukraine war.
Prove it
Part of Sydney CBD experienced black out not long ago. Police direct traffic while waiting for electrician connect generators to traffic electric box. Should the Japanese government like arrange in place, a police BYD car arrive at no time,power the traffic light. No need to wait for electrician, no need to manual direct traffic, and the road user don't even know there is a black out. Should cars BYD power the water pump at the nuclear power plant in 2011 in Japan, they would not have blow up.
You heard the latest news? BYD is making their own car carrier ships to hold more than 5000 cars on board and ship gonna be fully powered by blade batteries. Fuel is only used as generator for charging those batteries at sea and not that often
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You hear people flagging evs the majority of them haven't even driven one so they better get used to them their not going away or just stop driving
Reality is a lot of people don't have the ability to charge ev, fuel cars are still the bulk of cars sold globally
there's nothing wrong with most of the Japanese cars, they're just not competitive enough in certain markets. They'll do great with in US with import tariffs sheltering their business still.
U Do know the global is so much bigger than the US market and if Japanese cars can't compete Internationally, It's a matter of time they got eliminated right?
I think they are buying it for the batteries which are supplied by CATL to BYD. CATL was a company started by China after buying TDK batteries of Japan. So why did TDK sell it in the first place? Lack of foresight or lack of confidence in the EV market. Remember Toyota alone employs half a million workers in its factories in Japan tied to combustion engines. Hence, they were very reluctant to jump into EV space as they didn't want to lay off all those people. Even now Toyota is still experimenting with combustion engines using hydrogen as fuel. China on the other hand had nothing to lose and no industry to safeguard. So, they jumped on the EV bandwagon full force.
CATL battery to BYD?? Ever heard of the BYD Blade battery? Japanese TDK battery was nothing more than ordinary. CATL innovated its complete different lithium car batteries.
@laowantongchau Nothing more than ordinary is why they bought it from TDK?
@TechCrazy I think it was TDK who bought the previous ATL. ATL founder Robin Zeng worked under TDK till around 2010 then started CATL with a group of investors with 85% ownership, TDK 15%.. But Robin Zeng's group eventually bought the remaining shares 5 years later.
They really have nothing to complain about when they buy hybrid parts the government is just following their example 😂
toyota's CEO needs to be fired. he kept saying EV isn't the future since 3 years ago, and look at the result now. EV sales are growing, while ICE shrinking
How long has the Leaf 2nd generation been running with the Chademo connector and passive battery cooling system? How long did it take for the Ariya to get to production? Let’s see how long they last?
Uhh, Sam, BlackBerry didn't go bankrupt. But you're right, they don't make phones anymore.
I hope this move will encourage Japanese automakers to transition to EVs more quickly. They have the capability to make it happen.
EV tech and infrastructure is not ICE tech and infrastructure. It's like digital vs analog
Japan has tried but can't produce a competitive price range for EV car as compared to China
No they dont, they are however expecting foreign acquisitions enabling them to transition in the near future, they cant do themselves otherwise they would have done so a decade ago
@@mamacryright5740 I suspect they're not trying very hard. But all of them have some fantastic looking vehicles coming in '26, '27, and beyond. They're behind Tesla and the Chinese by about 10 years, so IDK if they can survive but anyway, competition is a great thing and hopefully we'll all benefit from it soon.
@@larryc1616you don’t realize how high tech ICE cars have become
BYD can easily cheaply get into the US car market. Just tell Trump you wanna hire his grand daughter and pay her 2 million a year plus perks ...whalla... he'll cut them in by quickly excepting BYD on all tariffs .
World competitive market, Japan just goes with latest features at value pricing. This is free market competition. Social democracy; every buyer of that EV product gets the benefit of development gov subsides. Not discriminating rebates for some taxpayers for cars made in certain countries.
Japan recognition of grid backup in case of Tsunami wipeout of powerplants. Japan knows they cannot copy China EV features at lower cost. It's like your mobile phone as optional power source or wifi hotspot for other devices.
If the Australian govt wants more vehicle to home cars to help alleviate the burden of the Elec grid, they should provide bigger rebates on EVs when those EVs are sold in Aust.
USA USA all Camry's hybrid also hybrid corolla and prius
EVs may cause fuel prices to increase. EVs consume huge amounts of fossil fuel and petrochemicals. If EVs continue to replace the internal combustion engine cars, will the oil companies be able to provide the fuel and petrochemicals for their manufacture?
Talk about a profit margin.
Buy FIVE Tesla Powerwalls or ONE BEV. If you buy the BEV you get the sam amount of storage and tons of additional functionality for MUCH LESS than the cost of those Powerwalls.
No wonder Tesla's balance sheets look so good!!!!
Tesla only looks good because they don't have competition. Elon made sure the politicians do that, with tariffs and taxes.
So you don't think that the Japanese government is going to bail out Toyota and Nissan?
For Japan a very volatile geographical area, i.e., volcanoes & fault lines are waking up, not before time, Japans slow efforts all because of the opinion of one man, Mr Toyoda, ridiculous!
Japan need to make an EV Toyota 2017 HIACE
American and Europeans are shortsighted also so is Wall St: show profits now or no deal. Fuk the future outlook is soooo stoopid!!!
ah the now the right to access the V2H API begins. The IEEE Standards for this are only just now be thrashed out.
The Japanese gov will be getting a custom API, which makes sense. Only they and their Electric companies will have access to control the cars.
The car companies take the opinion that they control access and they get a cut. All of them are planning this.
In the US many said disruption was the future like Uber and AirBNB...well now that disruption is not so cool..figures right. Like Republicans MAGA... it's cool till it affects them ..
At least the Japanese are qualified to be a competitor/qualifier in the EV race. The extremely super power on the internet, India, is not even in the race and does not even qualify to be a competitor. 🤭
Totyota made the wrong bet.... and they will lose badly.
Ja pensaram na hipotese de carros sem rodas....levitacao
Took him 4 minutes in to tell us what this is all about. 🤦🏻♂️
Toyota and VW huge problems are easy to be fixed, just prohibit the Chinese to built EV'S !! 😉
It's a BEAUTIFUL THING to see REALITY CRASHING IN TO corporate, govt, "mainstream" MEDIA NARRATIVE !!!
LOL, Japanese are doing like Volkswagen Group, choosibg old solutiobs for bext year models... For hybrid models, Chinese brabds will have Xpeng Motors Kunpeng EREV System, with 430km autonomy only on electricity and a motor to recharge the battery to extend at least 1000 more kilometers (1400 km total autonomy at least)... Jaésmede brands will payBYD for their old system, but will not use the bery good E4 system of the Yangwang models (U8 Premium, or U9 flr example), but a cheaper solution even worse than the E3 probably... Xpeng Motors is creating the future, and Volkswagen Group choosed the old but excellent chassis of the G9. They choosed this when the new SEPA2.0 (Smart Electrical Platform Architecture) Platform was launched. They prefer bad and cheap thongs, which are ancient... This is the bad strategy of Audi, which made them loose their 4 wheels 0000 gaining 0, making them usobg AUDI brand rather....
if you dont allow your citizens the best technology in the word, you may as well be a third world country and just get used to watching the rest of the world like an Amish kid eyeballing a Lambo at McDonalds. Good for Japan not forcing its citizens to settle for "shit" from the failed ability to compete in a world market. Learning opportunity.
I am NOT interested in tesla anymore. Ofcourse battery tech I will always keep an eye on .
I own a Blackberry phone. It is great. And secure
Plz SAM tell me the truth. Do you hate toyota?
This is DUMB, you drive your electric car to work. You DO NOT leave your electric car at home to soak up the sunlight during DAYTIME.
The Achilles Heel is not range and charging infrastructure like folks claim. It’s taking care of one battery. 60-40, 60-40, sometimes 80-20. Letting gov employees or rentals is a problem. I suppose algorithms could fake users, but don’t care for the battery you’ll need a new one in a couple of years and that is ok under warranty, until it’s not.