I went to a BYD dealer, and found out why Japanese reject EVs.
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2024
- We are in Yokohama, the second-largest city in Japan, hoping to find out what the EV market is like and how Chinese electric vehicles are doing here.
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The thing is that EV shines on commuting with overnight charging. However most Japanese do not have their own garage that offers 200V electricity, nor do they have to drive a car to commute.
The only time I drive is for road trips - long distance with no overnight charging is one of the specific use cases where current EVs perform terribly.
Maybe NIO and their partners will come there soon with battery swap stations, might be more suitable.
You don't need to charge overnight, EACH night. A modern EV has a range of over 300km.
The average japanese driver has a 5000km/year, and 90% of japanese drivers on their private vehicles drive less than 10.000km
This translates in 100km / week for the average and 200km/week for the 90% of drivers.
Literally, a normal japanese driver would need to charge ONCE / month with a modern EV.
Because japan has a culture of dictatorship and poverty, eating low level food and living in low level homes, being oppressed at work, (one could say enslaved) being forced to use public transportation instead of owning private vehicles.
If you look closely, japan is a dystopian cyberpunk country, a bad place a toxic place, racist and hateful for anything not japan society.
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Excuses excuses. The real reason is protectionism. Just like the USA. Free trade when it benefits them only. 😂😂😂
how do most people charge in China? Surely if Japan wanted to they could implement similar charging systems.
i live in brazil and BYD chinese are everywhere here in brazil. we love BYD... from your good friends in brazil !!!!!
Same in Australia
chinese cars are just the best. @@jimgraham6722
good cars, ez to drive & fair price!
That just means Brazilians are poor...
A few years from now they'll be absolute junk.
1) japan has been having energy crisis for decades, fukushima incident and other nuclear power plans being scaled down make the issues more serious.
2) lack of garage and charging at home especially in the city. They use 120v default which has more than 15% ac to dc conversion loss when charging
3) those tiny kei cars are very cheap and efficient, they can get nearly 50 mpg us.
4) they prefer pushing for hydrogen since they have deposits on their shores that they can mine for hydrogen in the future if needed
@terradrive
In Japan's case hydrogen is the way to go hands down.
The only problem is getting manufacturers to make them because if Japan is the only viable market most won't bother.
It would probably take parts of Europe building up the infrastructure too because it can work there as well in a way it probably couldn't in America's case.
@@hollowgonzalo4329 the state besides me (same country) already building and going to start commission around 2025 to produce green hydrogens. Mostly for South Korea but we're going to export to Japan too. That state is currently have around 80% electricity produced by hydropower and thermal. They are adding another 15% hydropower next year. All while the domestic electricity consumption is around 20% (that's why they are building factories to produce green hydrogens to export.
A few extras:
1) It snows very heavily in Japan, and electricity can be unreliable in snowstorms. Many Japanese still use kerosene lanterns as space heaters. EV Range also falls in cold, slushy conditions.
2) Japanese in general don't buy cars from other Asian countries. I mean there are hardly any Korean cars in Japan. Like in Australia the BYD owners are more often to be ethnic Chinese immigrants.
3) Charging networks are pretty appalling in the rural prefectures, where people actually need their cars.
4) Japan has a giant LNG import network infrastructure (much of it after Fukushima to keep the lights on) that can be easily converted to hydrogen.
5) Fuel efficient hybrids and kei cars make the EV switch less appealing during times of high oil prices. (e.g. war in Ukraine)
6) The big Japanese car companies have implicit social obligations to financially support their small parts makers in their supply chain, many of which will go out of business if an EV switch happens. It's already happening in Germany with big layoffs among those who supply their carmakers.
We know better. We know EVs are propaganda shit. It is not just BYD not selling in Japan. Even Tesla is selling like shit. Our grid is similar to that of the US. No scarce. Stupid politicians and fools who believe EVs are the only answer. Technically, nothing advanced about EVs. How can I say that? China has had hundreds of EV manufacturers for over a decade. Most of them can't even build an engine but they can build an EV. Smart EVs...but you can't stop them from burning. I wonder why...
One of the critical reason for Japan going hydrogen only because Toyota says so, and Toyota's been blocking the industry from lobbying EV related proposals in the parliament. Mechanical combustion engines are what Japanese good at, Toyota is not ready to give it up and handover the market to EVs carmakers, especially Chinese brands whom the Japanese been looking down on.
In Japan, old people have money. But young people don't have it. Politicians are to blame.
The main thing about Japan is they have brains and don't easily buy into hype, unlike most countries. The Japan consumer cares about Function over Form, and won't commit to something unless they're sure it'll work for them. Toyota, For example, has infamously not embraced EVs, Not because they can't or are behind the curve, But because they Don't Believe in the EV Future fundamentally. They think Hydrogen is a much more viable sustainable energy alternative technology, and that Hybrids (where you're using Electricity to Extend Gas Mileage as opposed to eliminating it all together).
And that's because they ARE. Look at the plethora of Issues coming to light with EVs in the US -- Huge issues with Cold Weather and Charging/Range (Usability issues). Huge issues with EV Battery Fires (Safety Issues). Huge issues with Repairability (Insurance and Maintenance/Repair Cost Issues). Huge Issues with Manufacturing -- 90% of the world's lithium comes from China, Making EV Car Manufacturers dependent on China, which most countries don't want (GeoPolitical Issues). Concerns over the Amount of Energy Needed -- If we need more energy for large scale adoption of EVs than we can produce with Renewable Methods, then we're not actually accomplishing ANYTHING by switching to EVs, We're just using Fossil Fuels to make the Electricity instead of directly putting them into the engine (Environmental Issues). And we're seeing with the Cybertruck and Tesla Semi (which convenient nobody is talking about anymore) that EVs for Carrying loads are insanely impractical (Workload Issues) . Not to mention the snake oil being sold regarding the technology, where the range is "theoretically" 500 miles on a charge, But you loose 40% of the range just from the normal charging range 20% to 80%, and further depending on extreme temperatures, age of the EV, Driving Style, Load, etc, and in the end you're only getting 100 Miles of the advertised 500.
Take all these issues as a single package, And the Japanese collectively and rightly say "Maybe this EV future isn't the smartest thing", and instead 1) stick to the tried and true technologies of the current and previous decades (ICE and Hybrid vehicles) , and 2) invest into future technologies that don't have ALL of these downfalls that we see with EVS (Hydrogen, etc).
Japanese, Unlike many consumers in most other places in the planet, Have some ACTUAL Intelligence when it comes to this kind of stuff, and that boggles the minds of many who just can't comprehend intelligent decision making.
When the fox can’t get the grapes it says that because the grape is sour
But you forgot to mention that EV motors are 90%+ efficient. And new battery technologies without lithium are on their way. And being beside an hydrogen tank is like having a bomb near you.
Without suitable charging infrastructure EV's will never work in any area
Where I live there is ample enroute charging.
Japan is full of common sense
Just back from Japan today where I spent a lot of time spotting EVs. About a dozen spotted over a 2 week period. Manly Tesla 3, Ys. 2x BYD (Atto3 and Dolphin) and a Porsche Taycan.
I went to a Toyota dealership and asked them if I could see a BZ4, they did not know what it was. They did not have any and said they don't sell EVs. They had a Miro (Hydrogen) car out the front.
Japan is very different to Australia. There is not much space. They really need to have an on street charging system to make it viable. Very rare to see a garage that you could charge in. To there credit their electric subway system with millions using it everyday trumps our EV efforts in terms of pollution reduction.
I also noticed that there is a huge solar uptake in Japan so soon the penny will drop that all the excess can go into transport.
Maybe they need battery swap stations, people living in high rises in China are enjoying this convenience.
What you have explained regarding the charging stations being limited makes sense. Most homes especially in the city are tiny most homes don't have a garage so you find most people park their cars on the street or in a parking lot. Like in the video their infrastructure is not made for charging stations to be accommodated there
Because they dont sell BZ4X in Japan but I think Lexus 450 or something basically the same car but far more expensive. BZ4X are for rental.
Evs are ideal for countries with no space with stop and go traffic.
Can charge EVs at home too. I guess they did not know too.
Great presentation, detailed insight and commentary. Keep up the good work!
It was a massive change from horse and buggies to ICE cars 100 years ago. We’re going through a similar transformation now.
Electric cars were running around in 1830 bruh. Same problem then as now except they're blowing up nowadays 😂
Most people do not want to adopt electric cars. It's a very slow adoption because it's just not as good and convenient as ice cars
EVs aren't that different to regular ICE vehicles in terms of capabilities. All it did is change the fuel source and internals, outside of that, it's legit just the same 4 wheeled metal box that moves people along a road.
@madensmith7014 you clearly have not lived in different parts of the world to see the application and use case for ice vs ev can be totally different
Paying more money for a tool that is not as good at doing the job as the one I already have, just doesn't make any sense🙃
This makes sense if you consider the fact that it's only now that their Government is beginning to phase out Fax machines and floppy disks from being in their local and central government's. Japanese society seem to very nostalgic. Which from eco perspective that is good for the environment. Means that they are not wasteful and will aim to look after and maintain their possessions before replacing them. I also love the fact we see many of the classic JDM cars like RX7, NSX and R34s still being driven on the roads.
NitrousXProductions Not wasteful? Every vegetable is individually wrapped in plastic. The government has even tried to stop this, but everyone rebelled! Single use plastic bags have been banned in Australia for a few years now, and the ocean and the future is thankful.
Or you know EV is not an "all-size solution" to "real" people's problems, the same situation in NY where people don't actually own garage and park in different spots every day. Also, the range anxiety is always there, charge two hours between your destination (that if you found a charging station) or spend 5 minutes at the gas station?
Actually Japanese people only buy their country car. You go Japan will see more than 99% Japanese car on the road.
There are videos in Japan where they can rent a small EV, to go places and charge-park it on another station. This means Japan already uses EV before it became a trend, but for convenient short distances only.
Nissan and Mitsubishi kei car... the sakura / ek x ev. Top selling ev.😅 kei car still favorit.
Give it 10 more years and the real problems start to roll in, battery degredation
By that time I believe there will be next generation batteries and will cost less.
Electric Energy Generation in Japan is over 75% Coal and diesel and other petroleum fuel.
Isn't Japan have a very very good public transport?
It's strange that Japanese don't give a crap about polutions while Japan has nucleus power and technology inovations to simply and easily mass produce EVs.
Too much sunk cost bias and rev heads at the top, they need to try the power of an EV, hopefully some of the Japanese auto brands will make it.
Evs suck. Japanese winters are cold, so the evs will crap on the road. They have super cheap alternatives. Toyota has a truck priced at 10kUSD. Why would they buy overpriced evs?
Yeah, you are using Ev but most electricity comes from coal and nuclear, seems clean
@@kealeradecal6091 Japan shouldn't be deficient in power, they should have a lot of thermal, solar thermal, tidal, wave, solar and wind power. Depends where you live, some states run completely on renewables at times, this will only get better. If you have solar on your house and charge the EV during the day, it's definitely green energy.
You may not know that Japan's low-quality nuclear power plant exploded, but you need to have a detailed understanding of how the Fukushima nuclear power plant cut corners.Half a month ago, another nuclear power plant in Japan caught fire
It's normal
I would take a corolla hybrid over ANY byd car, no matter the price difference.
That's because you're a 🤡
probably the plethora of public transport, with the fact that most EV charging is at home but most people living in apartaments
A simple high temperature in Japan can create a energy crisis cause many peoples start using Air Conditionair..Imagine peoples using Electric cars..
Nice video, very thoughtful.😊
EVs are for city commutes, but good public transport infrastructure is always better than EVs. Cars are for outside the city and that's the one aspect where EVs fail currently.
MAD EV is better than MAD TV
From Chinese perspective, reason is simple, their Toyota honda japanese vehicles is good enough for their own, that's why our EVs doesn't have any market in their country
Because the Japaneses don't like Chineses for historical reasons.
japan can get freezing cold so EVs are kind of a seasonal thing to them
I hope Japan brings new technologies Cars really love japanese cars It would be a shame to see them loose the market 🥲
during my 3 weeks in japan in Jan 24, i only saw one full electric car.... a Tesla Y
Only seen 3 TESLAs here in the last 5 years in TKO, thinking how lucky I was to see such a rare breed. While the electric postal scooter sightings are often.
simple answer bc ive been to japan aswell is that they really respect their rules when it comes to emission and really take care their cars when you go there and one car passes you wont even hear the noise and wont even smell the burnt fuel so basicly japan is a perfect example if you want to have a clean air enviroment utopia you dont need to change to ev
Editing is always on point.
Very true. But why isn't Harris speaking Japanese and interviewing the locals? Why is he using an English name? The man is clearly Okinawan.
maybe one reason older people may be more accepting of EV is they tend to have home that allow for them to charge the EV vs youth that prefer to live in apartments. it seem to reflect similiar issue with adopting in NYC where the urban center is just not EV friendly...
BYD Samurai to expand in Nippon.
Made in China products are well known world wide as bad quality. While made in Japan products are known to be of high quality. Even the Chinese in China are complaining about how bad BYD cars are.
Meanwhile, BYD is no 1 here in Asean by a wide margin. They are everywhere when there was none a year ago. People here want affordable and reliable evs. Not pricey European brands.Japanese evs are non-existent.
95% of everything you known is Made in China, so 95% of everything that you own is low quality?
Products made in Germany are known worldwide for their poor quality. The products made in the UK are renowned for their high quality. Even Germany is complaining about how bad German products are. (Bringing you a news article from August 1887)
How on earth are they bad? Tesla uses BYD batteries. American propaganda industry is making it up
現在のEVは未完成なものである事を多くの日本人は理解している。
EVが脱炭素の絶対的な答えでないことは明らか。
By the look of it, cars there are like status symbols or collector items. Since the city has good public transport. Cars are not a necessity.
Honestly do we truly save the world by changing to EV cars?
This is a political game, and the Earth's climate does not need to be saved by humans, because before the emergence of humans, the Earth had already experienced five mass extinctions, and the environment was even worse than it is now. Now, the 1.1 billion people in Western countries have taken 44% of carbon emissions rights, while the other 5.5 billion people have 56% of carbon emissions rights. This means that if you want to develop industry, you need to spend money to purchase emission rights
One of the posiible reason is Japan's years of cultural development, they are inclined to see non-japanese as Ganji means alien in everything. My opinion is this can lead to become doggedly & blindly be too loyal. To be different or stand out can rock the status quo. This mindset can be good and can be bad, this make a big difference in their choices.
This isn’t true. iPhones out sell Japanese phones, and European luxury goods outsell domestic luxury goods. So it isn’t true that Japanese just blindly hate foreign stuff. The fact is Japanese cars are well known for quality so they prefer their own cars.
@jamesl.o.h.6000
I could see that playing a part in it for sure but i think the biggest reason is just that the Japanese do indeed make the best and most reliable cars so it isn't merely blind nationalism.
Ultimately it's easier to promote a car-free lifestyle there than an EV-centric lifestyle.
my dad lived in japan for 5 yrs as a uni student until he worked, not only does he have no reason to buy an electric car, he doesn't even have a reason to own a car, and that was in the early 2000s
Just one question … can EV increase survive rate in natural disaster ? Japanese is well train for that and they know what is good for their life.
For survival you need new generation in which japanese currently lack.
4.4mil yen? For a Chinese car? Yeah, that's not really going to sell in Japan. Maybe if it was 2mil JPY it would attract more customers. Even Korean cars really don't exist in Japan, I've seen 2 or 3 Hyundai in total in my 30 years here, and at least one of them was a South Korean diplomatic car.
Chinese car far better than Korean and jap car
@@numpopo lol
Let's see if BYD cars will last 300,000km
A ton of BYDs are used as taxis in China.. Google it. so the answer is.. certainly
Japanese choice Japan car. Chinese choice China car. America choice US car. This seem very fair to me. 😂😂😂
No, you are dead wrong. US chose cars from every country except China, because U.S. is afraid China will be bigger in GDP than U.S. China let her people chose cars without discrimination, depending on the market force. It’s only Japan and Korea that only select cars produced by their own.
@@mtcnew8353yeah bc us and china have bad relationship rn
@@mtcnew8353also bs.... China is heavily subsidizing domestic sale of domestic cars....
I do not like crap stories that is the point....
Byd is saviour for consumers around the world, hopefully prices will drop even more...
US is not afraid. They don’t want to give fuel to the dictator. Also China will never exceed US in GDP. Besides. You can’t even trust their reported numbers.
Saying China subsidizes their car industry is like saying other countries didn't does it.
I'm 564lbs mentally ill and drive a BYD. one day it exploded and burned my groin
They have public transport, why would they go for these Cobalt contraptions?
Both Tesla and BYD have fallen on hard times in Japan. Few people are interested in them because they take a long time to recharge and replacing batteries is expensive. Unless battery performance improves dramatically, the company will probably operate at a loss even if it enters the Japanese market.
Japanese probably want to skip EV era altogether. Straight from ICE to hidrogen 😅
Japanese Car companies are next,
Nokia, Kodak or Blackberry.
Ill take my chances with donkeys before i switch to electric fireboxes.
Up to 5 years ago say, there was a per-mile cost in favour of EVs, if you accepted that charging at home was ‘normal’. There’s never been an argument that EVs were more comfortable in terms of cabin temperature capability - and that remains to this day. If we were to cost the price per kWh for heating the cabin of a vehicle, to THE SAME LEVEL AS AN ICE CAR, the high cost of battery capacity, the massive loss of range to heat the vehicle as much as a fossil-fuel car would be, etc, all hit against EVs. Now as energy has shot up in price in the UK where I live, either you make your home into a power station, and make 90% of your trips using that home-generated energy, or simply don’t buy an EV.
This still leaves the frozen-feet issue I have experienced both in a Nissan and a Tesla Model Y as a deal-breaker for EVs in my opinion. I think in some ways, the battery energy density has still not reached the necessary performance level and yet the fevered PR of several different battery innovations continually imply they will all arrive very, very, very soon! But they don’t. I haven’t even seen anyone with a new Tesla battery cell design showing it on youtube or anything…it’s perfectly possible, by the time the EV is price-comparable to fossil fuel cars, motoring will be an over-regulated bore. ?! Take care all.
byd very knowns for spontaneous combustion, very dangerous cars to own
Same with Hyundai, Kia and those GM and German cars that uses Korean or Chinese batteries.
@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 all cars use chinese batteries .
@@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 source ??? Proof ???
The reason is that Japan has a large supply chain in gasoline car industry, too many people to feed, and can't afford to just have all those companies die out and that many people losing their job.
Also, it is because that the Key to the smart EVs, is the 'SMART', or data. But the Europe and Japan are just way behind in the mobile internet days. They are all using apps and platforms from the US, they don't have their own apps, they don't have the access to the data, so they don't do very well in the SMART part.
And even if they could overcome all those mentioned above, their relationship with the States could just kill all the possibilities. If you can not have your own independent industrial strategy, nothing could be done.
This guy missed the EV best seller of Japan = Nissan Sakura, the car of the year 2023, the first commercially successful EV of Japan is not only an EV but also a Kei EV.
The only BYD that can compete with Sakura is BYD Seagull. Because, not just the Japanese, ppl worldwide want affordable Kei class size ultra efficient EVs. Not fullsize waste of money.
similarly in countries where public transport is more convenient than having a car or most people are living in apartment. Those who can afford cars are those rich people and they don' t care about saving on petrol or if they buy EV, they will consider buying Merc/BMW/Audi, rather than BYD!! hence chinese EV sales will be low!!
As Evs take over in other countries, international volume sales of ICEs will decrease and get more expensive ro produce. Batteries will get continuously better and one way or the other charging points will appear and petrol stations will start to dissappear. So the switch will happen, even in recalcitrant countries.
And batteries will get cheaper and might be affordable to replace every few years
There are few reasons that I think why BYD sale is not much. Japan is staking on Hydrogen instead of EV for green energy, that's why they are more into building hydrogen infrastructure instead of EV.
It's war, and chances of hydrogen winning is not pretty.
Remember back in the days when Japan insisted on deploying their own CDMA mobile phone network and totally excluded GSM? It eventually faded out of the market.
@@MMLL369 Nope. Hydrogen is here to stay. EU countries esp Germany consider Hydrogen fuel for trucks.
Secondly, current breakthroughs are happening to make the Hydrogen have the economical sensibility.
Let's revisit this conversation in 5 years shall we?
EV in Japan is been hurt by the lack of government push for such kind of mobility, I suppose. Unlike major EU car brands and few US cars, for some reasons mixed by consumers /government decisions haven’t yet fully embraced EV. Debates still exist on whatever EV is truly the future while other alternatives are developed including in China despite its clear technological advances on this topic. Guess we are still in the balancing cycle and a firm trend has emerged yet. Hence the moderate /mitigate consumers attitude
EVs are one of the technologies that will power the cars of the future. However it will not be the only one. Hydrogen fuel cells will be another technology.
EVs now are in their teenage years whereas hydrogen is in its infancy.
However there will be situations where hydrogen will be a better fit than EVs. For example in dense urbanised cities where people live in apartments and can’t have a home charger, they may opt for a hydrogen car as opposed to an EV. Also along lot of the existing infrastructure that stores and delivers oil and liquified gas, could be repurposed for hydrogen.
@@IMAN7THRYLOShydrogen is too volatile to make, store, transport, then store again, after a couple of refills, they need to fill the big tank again. For people in apartments or those who don't want to worry about the battery they go with NIO battery swap, 4 minutes and EV is full, choose the size of battery. Maybe this will work in Japan.
@@flukeylukey7559 NIO is a Chinese car manufacturer with almost no presence outside China. Battery swap is a great idea that it should be regulated and standardised.
A battery pack should be able to work in a vendor neutral way. Think AA batteries for example that work in any device that can hold them.
@@IMAN7THRYLOS I don't know what is the parameter for the swap but I wonder if this idea can work long term. Given the cost of the battery, how it has been used, I wonder how long the car manufacturer can keep up with the free battery life for the customer.
EV cars can improve further, but people tend to ignore that if they really want this to stick, they need to focus on EV charging infrastructure.
The entire Japanese Auto Industry and economy will pay hard in a few years...
EV batteries are a fire hazard that can destroy your car and house. Why risk it when ICE vehicles are available?
Nissan has an EV Kei car. The Nissan Sakura.
I find your title to be a lie
I personally own a USED JDM Imported 2018 NISSAN LEAF ZE1...
I just got it... it was a bargain and the best value EV in Australia.
Aus has been importing countless used EVs from Japan... seems like Japan had more EVs than Australia
NZ has also imported thousands of used EVs from Japan
Japan focuses on minimalism and efficiency. Busy work scheduled make charging an ev for hours a terrible drawback.
Can't watch the music is annoying
China controls battery supply, R&D & mfg. They're also very good on SW which is vital to EV. Japan has no advantage in EV in comparison.
china is the future... with love from brazil.
That's Japan's choice, they could've had more than a half hearted attempt at EVs. Government and Toyota wants hydrogen, tell them they're dreaming 💤
@@raymonddon8875 China is not the future as long as she still has an authoritarian regime! LOL
@@flukeylukey7559 A hydrogen car is basically like sitting on a bomb.
China... # 1 in EV cars, head of BRICS, biggest project on the planet (belt & road), only nation with world class space station, manufacturing capital of the world, major infrastructure projects world wide, 5000 years of recorded history, # 1 in A.I., biotech, science, math, computer, etc. longest uninterrupted history, oldest surviving civilization & richest nation 1500 years ago, as well as the richest nation on the planet today. no other nation even came close. what china did this last 50 years was ground braking, albeit this next 50 years will be even more astonishing. this next generation is western educated, world traveled & they think outside the box. brave new world indeed...
also all dystopian future movies depict the environment as an always-raining chinatown.
Chinese EVs are pieces of crap built with low-quality materials. If you care about safety, avoid it at all costs. There are many videos showing Chinese EVs exploding.
also BYD hybrid EVs tech DM-i, DM-p & DMO are insane
They are still waiting for EV that can fit into their garrage.
Even so, they'd rather take the rail than cars in general. They have better transportation in which America had fallen for.
Even so, EVs are expensive and not viable for long-drive distance. You have Kei cars for that. Cheap and fuel efficient. That's where they have achieved since the end of World War 2.
@@KikuraKun Kei cars are for city ride. I own one before and its pain for long range travel but BYD have seagull, its slightly above kei spec.
best selling EV in japan is Nissan Sakura, a kei EV. The reason is they fit into their garage.
Its mainly because of one thing smaller vehicles like scooters and kei cars just more practical really
Our generation is just broke. We can't afford any vehicle. Kei cars sell well because it's the cheapest in the market. Even then it's still a hard sell.
Even CATL ( well known Chinese EV car battery manufacturer)are facing trouble, share price is dropping...
Evs are absolute scam shit, i don't recommend anyone regretting their wallet if they're planning on buying one of those DEATHTRAPS 😂😂
TOYOTA will be the next KODAK company, self annihilation.
No,because many counties will not be adopting EVs,anytime soon.
Agree!
Yes, too much debt, eroding market share, maybe they should do an IPO for Lexus to get out of debt, then develop a new high tech EV company, need to start fresh.
EV economy is crashing down atm. lol. and also, it is the US Government EV mandate thats why consumers got no freedom anymore.
no, GM ford will be the one to fall first. I can see Toyota and Honda doing just fine. Kodak got replaced by a digital camera, which is far superior, but don't forget digital cameras got replaced by phones too. EV is not a superior product compared to ICE, not within the next 20-30 years, there is no replacement of battery, the only one that is remotely close to replacing a battery in a car is fuel cell, which Japan is dominating the field. EV only has half of the range of a normal car, requires 10-20x time to recharge, and also cost twice as much without government incentive. not to mention electricity is not efficient compared to ICE car, normal gas and coal power plants have about 37%-60% thermal efficiency, electricity transportation will lose about 10-25% in high voltage lines, also charging efficiency is only about 75-90% efficiency, which means depending on what generates your electricity and where you live, your EV actually is much less efficient compared to ICE car which for most Toyota engine will get you above 37% thermal efficiency. if you are really in for improving the environment, EV is not the solution, also not the future.
EV are every where in Malaysia from bmw ix3 ix, taycan, Byd, Good cat, Smart
I reckon Japan did there homework on EVs and could see that they weren't going to work, which has been proved in nth America and Europe with huge EV fires and freezing conditions abliterating charging and range capabilities
Japan being futuristic and unfuturistic at the same time
I think Japan-China conflicts may have some roles. And other reasons are anti Chinese product sentiment and anti EV sentiment.
Only Nio battery swap will work in Japan
In Japan you do not see many foreign made cars(counting in streets, probably 3-5% foreign cars imported in Japan). Media, nationalist and Government put tariffs on imported cars are the fundamental reason.
Japan doesn’t have any import tariffs on automobiles. Foreign cars are fairly niche because they’re not tailored or particularly well marketed to Japanese consumers.
do u see Hyundai, Kia in Japan? Dont feel you're alone 😂
Thanks god. There are subtitles..
In all my driving years using a CE car I have never seen an expensive car at a petrol station. I always wonder where or when these cars pump petrol. I speculate that these rich people are very security conscious so choose a very special windows to pump petrol for fear of robbery because of its conspicuousness. So EVs will always be popular especially in US where car robberies will become more prevalent. Charging your car at home is so much safer.
That's a sad reality to live in. Fortunately, most countries are safer than the USA.
Interesting angle, agree with other response.
I see plenty of rich cars at gas stations when I drive through rich neighborhoods. What happens is rich cars gas up in rich neighborhoods. Neighborhoods you don’t live in.
A little out of Topic but is Hiphi facing a trouble right now?
Japan sells enough gas cars to Rusia and Thailand etc why make EVs
So, no dealership visit 🤔
Was he not at the BYD dealership?
In the United States, Electric Vehicles are an extension of the environmental movement.
God bless.
Japan after getting bombed by 2 nuclear weapons by American imperialist,they choose to admire the perpetrators rather making distance with it .. Japanese society no double run in low steam
i want one byd EV car
The amount of CO2 produced during the production of electric vehicles is greater than that produced when producing gasoline-powered vehicles. This is because a large amount of CO2 is emitted during the manufacturing of the lithiumion storage batteries installed in electric vehicles. We know that is fact. We have EV cars. Nissan Leaf, Toyota Yaris and the other EV cars have never ever self-combusted since these were sold. We do not buy low quality cars. That’s the reason why we do not buy BYD.
Nice hindustan south
Remember if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, nothing wrong with current ICE cars, and if people don’t want them, don’t force it on them. 😳👍🇦🇺
the japanese are not stupid they know EVs are overpriced dangerous garbage.
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....such a sweeping juvenile statement.
You forget the current Daihatsu-Toyota situation. LMAO.
I visit Japan often and can only ascribe the facts you told us to general conservatism and a narrow outlook, unwilling to look to the future. Toyota CEO recent comments anti-ev were hard to believe. He has really forgotten how Toyota got where it is many years ago. Too bad. A Japanese friend of mine who has just become a science PhD is really disappointed in where her country is going. She says, 'Down the tubes!'
Japan is an aristocratic state.
slow adjust the technology will be disaster for Japan car market
Toyota in Japan and Toyota (Tacoma, RAV4, Corolla) in USA. Easy.
Another reason is that Japanese become relatively poor as represented by high Kei car (very small car) penetration. 2-3 million yen is preferred where current EV can’t reach except for Kei EV.
BYD is not the leading EV brand in Japan. Why didn’t you visit Tesla instead?
Japanese people and their culture offer much to the rest of the world. Much respect to them.