I think it's about the nature of a "radio show" being on television and how that could change it's meaning as a great piece of aural entertainment, like it changed the actions of the children, which is rare in this visually obsessed world. I'm glad they took it off the air. I don't need pictures to dictate how I should interpret sentences. Thank you Ira!
the point is that the fight was not stopped until the teachers noticed. none of the other kids bothered to help the kid getting his ass handed to him because they were to busy reporting the news, they cared more about reporting then helping this poor kid. that's the message at any rate the rest of you people commenting have a point, students are not always the first to step in when a brawl occurs and i think that is the real issue : ( also i think it said allot about trends
its so true ppl are so weird.. i love this show .. man the one where the kid starts to barter lunch bag food for a "cake" that his mom was going to bake. it turned into a huge ponshy scheme lol so funny or the one where the dude walks out of the brookland zoo with a rare parrot and ends up selling it to a couple who are chain smokers and the bird has a lung disease crazy story i love this american life
This isn't Chris Ware talking...it's Ira Glass and some guy named Jeff. It's a great clip, though - just so well done. Saw it on Slate originally but it was taken down - thanks for putting it up here!
This is a really interesting point made. I've been looking for books on either psychology or sociology behind people on cameras and what happens, anyone know of any such books? Or books on how people change when it comes to media
I think the point is, the camera makes you a spectator. It detaches you from the situation, so even if there is an event where you would normally intervene, you become passive. Did anyone see the shot of the plane in the sky? Maybe it was a reference to 911... Many people stood around filming with cameras that day, instead of helping somebody.
I think this is more a reflection of reality, and inherent human behaviour. Similar to real TV News Reporters, they are not there to help, but to capture someone else's misery and suffering for ratings and popularity.
It seems like Ira Glass and Chris Gray are over thinking the event-although I do love this show. There were at least two fights a day at the school where I went to seventh grade. The other kids always stood around and watched. Also Chris came out after it started and never goes into why it started. Sometimes people fight. Sometimes they need to. Maybe the kid getting beat up was a bully and the other kid had had enough? Now two or three on one is a different issue.
@gcarmenc But it's not limited to kids. It's a known effect called the Bystander effect. If you ever want to look up a pretty well known example of it, look up Kitty Genovese.
Kids watch fights anyway. They don't need cameras to act like unhelpful jerks. The important part is not 'censoring' everything by destroying the cameras, but encouraging moral behavior. Those that watch or 'film' should be frowned upon, but not punished.
Cameras were the scapegoat to what kids would have done anyway. I am the first one to break up a fight as an adult, but as a kid in grade school? No way.
@gcarmenc its about the bigger picture nublet. its pushing the point that mass media "impersonal communication to a large audience," has desensitized us to violent acts and that every body else just watches and believes its okay not to act unless a moral authority steps in, which is a pretty legitimate point in my opinion.
Yeah i see the point.. but don't fights happen all the time at school? And isn't it usually teachers who break up the fights anyway. I get the analogy and the point being made but i think that it's flawed...
the cameras have NOTHING to do with the kids watching and not helping the kid getting beat up. haven't any of you been to middle school or high school? everyone just watches, and this was well before cell phone cameras.
The idea that the camera acts as an intercessor for the photographer is of long standing in the aesthetics of photography. Read "On Photography" by Susan Sontag. Or just be an obnoxious, ignorant internet expert on everything you ingest - either way...
When I went to Catholic grade school in the 70s, nuns could still smack the shit out of you if you weren't careful. A schoolyard fight was nothing. Come to think of it, maybe that's why we never had outbursts of creativity like this.
Chris Ware is one of my all time favorites.
I think it's about the nature of a "radio show" being on television and how that could change it's meaning as a great piece of aural entertainment, like it changed the actions of the children, which is rare in this visually obsessed world. I'm glad they took it off the air. I don't need pictures to dictate how I should interpret sentences. Thank you Ira!
This is fascinating! So well done.
Great story-telling.
This animated clip is simply fantastic, and with a really awesome message! =)
2019 anyone
That's so beautiful. I didn't know Chris Ware handled this animation. I hope Ware makes a feature length film with this.
this clip alone is worthy of a short subject Oscar
People will stand around and watch a fight whether they have cameras or not. It's called the bystander effect:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
Thanks dad
@@kerilyndesiree6188 ?
Is there a dad joke in there? If yes I apologise, it wasn't intended.
@@bobnine is it funnier without the period ? :/ sorry, was just calling u dad
nice animation and story.
the point is that the fight was not stopped until the teachers noticed. none of the other kids bothered to help the kid getting his ass handed to him because they were to busy reporting the news, they cared more about reporting then helping this poor kid. that's the message at any rate the rest of you people commenting have a point, students are not always the first to step in when a brawl occurs and i think that is the real issue : ( also i think it said allot about trends
great job!
its so true ppl are so weird.. i love this show .. man the one where the kid starts to barter lunch bag food for a "cake" that his mom was going to bake. it turned into a huge ponshy scheme lol so funny or the one where the dude walks out of the brookland zoo with a rare parrot and ends up selling it to a couple who are chain smokers and the bird has a lung disease crazy story i love this american life
This isn't Chris Ware talking...it's Ira Glass and some guy named Jeff. It's a great clip, though - just so well done. Saw it on Slate originally but it was taken down - thanks for putting it up here!
cool thanks,
I didn't hear the whole episode and wasn't sure who he was.. the story is cool and the animation is even cooler.
This is a really interesting point made. I've been looking for books on either psychology or sociology behind people on cameras and what happens, anyone know of any such books?
Or books on how people change when it comes to media
so cute
I think the point is, the camera makes you a spectator. It detaches you from the situation, so even if there is an event where you would normally intervene, you become passive.
Did anyone see the shot of the plane in the sky? Maybe it was a reference to 911... Many people stood around filming with cameras that day, instead of helping somebody.
I think this is more a reflection of reality, and inherent human behaviour. Similar to real TV News Reporters, they are not there to help, but to capture someone else's misery and suffering for ratings and popularity.
It seems like Ira Glass and Chris Gray are over thinking the event-although I do love this show. There were at least two fights a day at the school where I went to seventh grade. The other kids always stood around and watched. Also Chris came out after it started and never goes into why it started. Sometimes people fight. Sometimes they need to. Maybe the kid getting beat up was a bully and the other kid had had enough? Now two or three on one is a different issue.
@gcarmenc But it's not limited to kids. It's a known effect called the Bystander effect. If you ever want to look up a pretty well known example of it, look up Kitty Genovese.
Kids watch fights anyway. They don't need cameras to act like unhelpful jerks.
The important part is not 'censoring' everything by destroying the cameras, but encouraging moral behavior. Those that watch or 'film' should be frowned upon, but not punished.
Cameras were the scapegoat to what kids would have done anyway. I am the first one to break up a fight as an adult, but as a kid in grade school? No way.
There was actually a fight today at school, and kids just say there and taped it, until eventually posting it on youtube.
@gcarmenc its about the bigger picture nublet. its pushing the point that mass media "impersonal communication to a large audience," has desensitized us to violent acts and that every body else just watches and believes its okay not to act unless a moral authority steps in, which is a pretty legitimate point in my opinion.
kids don't break up playground fights, camera or no camera.
And they all grew up to become Portland live-streamers. The end.
Does anyone know who did the animation?
m_) so true.........as sad.
m_) brilliantly animated.
m_) Thanks for sharing!
m_) Metalmadcat
What podcast number is this?
what is the song in the background ?
:}
Wow
@gcarmenc They would watch and cheer, they would not "report" it.
what does he say at 3:10 when he's referencing the scene? sounds like "Ballen's Russia"
I kinda get the idea, but not personally
i want to ask,how is to live in america for u ppl
is it boring,awesome whatever
but i just want to know
and i live in holland btw
It's a phone? Do you mean 'it's phoney'? I like it being a phone better, tho. You've got a great bumper sticker there.
Yeah i see the point.. but don't fights happen all the time at school? And isn't it usually teachers who break up the fights anyway. I get the analogy and the point being made but i think that it's flawed...
How halirious:P
In my old school you can get suspended for breaking up a fight smh
Anyone know the song at the end?
some space song
@robotkage casting the news as in getting out a cell phone and recording.
@pishandchibbs well i know that but i just wanted to ask how it is to live in america ya know :P
i smoke weed and stuff sometimes :D
im 16 btw
I wonder how it affected the kid that was pummeled.
the cameras have NOTHING to do with the kids watching and not helping the kid getting beat up.
haven't any of you been to middle school or high school? everyone just watches, and this was well before cell phone cameras.
A-men.
Scary, isn't it.
The idea that the camera acts as an intercessor for the photographer is of long standing in the aesthetics of photography. Read "On Photography" by Susan Sontag. Or just be an obnoxious, ignorant internet expert on everything you ingest - either way...
@dabossman356 IT'S A METAPHOR. FFS.
When I went to Catholic grade school in the 70s, nuns could still smack the shit out of you if you weren't careful. A schoolyard fight was nothing.
Come to think of it, maybe that's why we never had outbursts of creativity like this.
Who's Ira Hayes? You mean Ira Glass? He's great. I know someone who used to date him.
Wtf
Oh, I "got it" I just think what "it" is, is absolute bullshit. The camera has NOTHING to do with the way the people are reacting.