@@ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2chwhile one IS The super fan of a super hero going Full Yandere/mental The other IS The mother wanting something for someone reason that involves harasing here own dauther.
Control! The daughter had friends and a bf and was living her life. Mother needed to put her back "in her place". Narcissists cant allow you to do better than them.
my mom is diagnosed with NPD and she sent me formspring questions back in 2008ish so, yeah, p much lol. caught her in it one day, asked why, never got a good reason.
My aunt has narc tendencies. She'd consistently tell me I was fat and body shame me. I'd take off my glasses and say "Here, you need em more than I do. Cause I'm 20 pounds UNDERweight. You're the one that's always wanting to lose weight. Stop projecting" She'd throw stuff in my room for insulting her like that.
Yeah. My dad did that to me repeatedly when I was actually dealing with suicidal ideation and the guy can’t figure out why I don’t want him in my life anymore. ✂️ What’s extra cool about that is my ex-fiancé knew this was going on but wouldn’t let me put boundaries up with my dad because my dad didn’t do it to him, lol… and that’s why he’s my ex-fiancé. ✂️
She told her own child to end herself, one of the most evil things anyone can say, let alone her own mother. I hope the daughter is getting all the help she needs to heal from the damage inflicted by this horrific, evil monster.
My mom does a similar thing. She always forced me to eat large amounts of food as a child, because she wanted me to be large and unattractive. She’d actively sabotage friendships and relationships to make me be alone. It took over a decade of not living under her roof to get my head on straight. The psychological damage is the worst part.
I'm so sorry this happened to you, i can't even imagine my own mom trying to make me feel horrible. I really hope you're better now with plenty of friends and relationships, I wish you the best :)
My mother was a narcissistic sociopath who hated young females; specifically me, and eventually my daughter. But it also extended to my nieces (her grandchildren) and my one female cousin. I have two brothers and she treated us much differently growing up, and as adults. I was a teenager in the 70's, so we didn't have social media. She had to bully me in person, which she did every chance she got. She died 8 years ago and I still don't miss her. The repercussions of what this woman has done to her own daughter will last a lifetime.
I remember the first of my Daughters birthdays that my Mom bothered showing up for was about her 5th or 6th birthday and we decided to go to the local amusement park. As soon as we got in my little sister wanted to zip off to the roller coasters and I was like hey woah it's my Daughters birthday we should go to kiddy land first. We had all day we could have gone to every ride in that park it wasn't a very large park. My Mom and Little Sister and Step Dad and Step Sister just bailed off to rollercoaster land. Through the day I'd catch my Step Dad randomly standing around glaring at us while we spent all day in kid land with my Daughter and her cousins and other relatives closer to her age.
I have a similar upbringing! My mother is def not a narcissist. But she has very few warm and fuzzies. She loved her boys. But us girls were only supposed to be something if we married a man. Big surprise all three of the girls are now divorced from men who mistreated us. The five boys are all happily married and well adjusted. I wish I figured it out sooner. It takes time to believe I’m worthy of anything on my own.
@@Drak976, Good for you to know your priority......your lil' girl ❤️ Your good sense mothering and kind heart will shine through your daughter to your grandchildren! You're making a Forever Legacy. Hearing you, reading your story makes me so happy. I broke the cycle with my kids, and seeing how good they are with my grandchildren makes my heart sing. 🌷❤️🌷 Love is stronger than anything they can throw your way. You're powerful, mama! God bless U!
I cannot believe I'm seeing this again. Kendra was my BOSS at my colleges IT dept. Most of us believed she did it because she was getting "jealous" of her daughter for basically growing up and spending more time with her friends instead of her. She would always talk about how she's the cool parent... Best part is she was using campus resources to harass her daughter.
I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Kendra was trying to make her kid super depressed to ruin her childs career/freedom and also Garner sympathy for herself
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
There's definitely a nonzero percentage of people who have children or pets solely to have control/power over something in their life. They're almost always insecure and submissive in all other aspects.
Family isn't everything. It's not even the only thing.... You can't choose the family you're born into... but even friends and strangers can be more compassionate towards you than family.
You may be correct about the mother having been bullied at some point while growing up. My mother took great pleasure in punishing me for things that happened to her. The one phrase burned into my memory is "Somebody did this to me and I want you to know what it was like." The dirty secret is that some mothers hate their children. Thank God this one got caught.
WTF so bizarre she would do that given she knew what it felt like. Or do you think she’s secretly a sadomasochist? Very strange sorry you went through that
Ah. Yes. A wise choice to birth a child first whilst the mother has crystal clear issues and problems with her mental life. No need to raise them properly. What can go wrong when the child becomes an adult? 😊👍
I discovered my own mother had been creating problems for me over the decades too, it's a very strange scenario to accept. Some people are very manipulative, dark, and evil, they'll come across as very well natured too, that's the worst part.
My mom was mad that I refused to speak w her, so she called cops and said I threatened to off her. That guaranteed me not speaking to her. Now she is at end of life stage and pretty much alone bc my bro put her in a facility 90 miles away in a mountain town w no access via bus or rail.
same. except my mom still lives in her home. She showed up at my job a few weeks ago and badmouthed me to my boss. she is 70 and still pissed at my dad from 40 years ago and still taking it out on me. I'm getting a restraining order.
@@justinlong5892In “My Mother the Psychopath” by Olivia Rayne, the author describes how her mother called the director of the summer camp where the daughter was working, and told him that her daughter was a sex offender! Luckily Olivia was able to prove this wasn’t true.
Thats what most narcissistic mother's, outwardly appearance to everyone els us that of a friendly, helpful, loving person. But as soon as your alone behind closed doors......
Mom sounds jealous, vindictive, and sadistic. During my childhood & adolescence, if I showed the least bit of admiration for a mature woman, mom would go bats*it crazy, & work hard to find some fault with that person. She's extremely old now & still has the emotional mindset of a very mean 11 yr old. Some moms have a pathological hatred for their daughters. It's destructive AF for adolescent girls. It's not a good sign the daughter wants the Court to "go easy" on her mom. Codependency is toxic!
Absolutely nailed it on the Münchausen-by-proxy analysis. It's a really unusual variation in that the methods used were purely social rather than physiological, but the root pathology is obviously present. The psychological case studies that are going to come out of this one are going to be fascinating, and they definitely aren't going to reflect flatteringly on a lot of people.
I hope this line of thinking gets chased down, somehow. Seeing a lot of stories in the comments similar to this, similar to mine, of how we (the daughters) were "our mothers' only friend/supporter", lots of cases of kids becoming their mom's therapists etc etc. Maybe some form of long-term post partum issues? maybe attachment issues, feelings of ownership (over the child) etc caused by circumstances surrounding the child's conception and birth? In my case, my mother had a tubal litigation before i was born so i could see the resentment from that turning into the feeling that she was right to try to make me into Heidi 2: Electric Boogaloo, or something?
I agree with you about the Munchausen's by proxy. It makes sense, especially as emotional and psychological problems are so much more fashionable than old standards like leukaemia. Psychological abuse from a position of anonymity is the obvious next step. She must have loved playing the hero Mom dealing with the FBI.
@@lobstermash not just trendier, but also far easier to artificially set up or fabricate without getting caught. That said, it also seems like most of the mothers who do it more this way aren't giving a whole lot of thought to the "how" of what they're doing, which just baffles me with how elaborate the manipulation schemes usually are. It's as if aging white suburban women just have some whole hidden cranial lobe exclusively for plotting Macchiavellian shit like this without any conscious effort. It's uncanny.
Only motivation that makes sense is jealousy and envy. She's probably one of those mom's who say "my daughter's my best friend, I'm a cool mom," and as her daughter grew up and started showing interest in forming other relationships she freaked out and tried to shut it down. Hell, she may have been envious of her own daughter's successes, still bitter about her own high school experience
@@HelloSasha707 i did not claim it was. Munchausen's By Proxy is rare, and in this scenario I think it's more likely the mother was an asshole on a power trip
The way the mom worked with authorities, the FBI getting involved to raise the stakes, and the mom even trying to frame her daughter's classmate to throw them off her trail is some straight out of Death Note shit. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter. Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter. Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
The most sickening part to me is that, had her daughter followed through on taking her life, she probably would've milked that sympathy card dry for years.
I honestly think that was her plan. Obviously we don't know but since she refuses to say a motive I can only think it's because her plan was more horrible than just messing with her daughter. I don't know all the details but I could see this lady wanting to be child free or something but didn't want to look bad to the public. I think she was hoping that is her daughter took her own life she would get sympathy and attention from others and not look like the bad guy. But this could just be a wild thought brought on by movies and tv plots. But I also wouldn't put it past anyone. Look at all those cases of parents wanting a new life so they murder their kids. Poor girl all around though. No matter what the "mom" was planning she is a horrible person
I honestly feel terribly sorry for the teenage daughter in this situation. Dealing with a bully in any capacity is awful enough, but to find out that the very bully is your own mother just hits new levels of heartbreaking.
I know your worse haters are often someone close to you BUT WOW! How unfortunate does someone have to be that their own mother is being a hateful wretch towards them daily!? Sick world
How much you wanna bet the entire time this was happening, the mom was going "I warned you about those dangerous people on the internet" to her own daughter to feign her caring.
My theory is that the mom was jealous of her daughter. Probably she felt as if her daughter had robbed her of her youth, or some crazy stuff like that.
It’s not insane like you think. It’s a lot more common for mothers to be petty and miserable like this mother nowadays lol. Bunch of resent people will do “insane” things
Lucky for me, I don't have to imagine 🫠 This sounds a lot like my own mother, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
@@AnthonyBlamthony the fact that more and more mothers as a whole are getting exposed online and people in general getting exposed. dont play stupid with me you weirdo. you know damn well what im referring too. you just dont want to admit it cause your your little ego wont let you lol. but go on
Sounds like my mother, who I've long suspected now is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
@@realyozYFGABruh your videos are so bad.. you dont talk and got stupid music and tiny words around a powerpoint presentation... why not sit in front of a camera and say what u got to say unless your a shy little coward
Some moms are horrible jealous of their daughters. I've seen a mom build up her son while tearing down her daughter. We've heard of 1 sister being jealous of her other sister's looks. It happens with moms too. Women are taught that looking young makes you more attractive. Some moms can't handle when their daughters start looking attractive and get more attraction from guys than they do. My friend's mom was like this. Mom told lies about my friend. Refused to get her medical treatment when needed which caused life long problems. All while spoiling the brother which also caused him problems.
Insane story. I think it's all about one thing. She harasses her daughter, goes public about wanting to find her harasser, hoping eventually her daughter will exit life and then she will be the poor poor mother that did EVERYTHING to save her daughter. She'll get publicity, sympathy and money.
Personally, this sounds a lot like my mother to me, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
@@harmonyquinn2557 Maybe via social media traction, like a GoFundMe, or something of a similar sort. Seems like a thing that someone thinking like that could go for.
@@harmonyquinn2557donations from people who feel bad for her. She'd prob then start a bogus Fundraiser For Suicidal Teens in her daughter's name and pocket most of the money... then you have potential Talk Show appearances.
This is one of the strangest cases of abuse I’ve heard of. Really an out of the box way to anonymously emotionally and psychologically abuse your child. That’s sickening
Given how she also cyberbullied her boyfriend, this leads me to believe the reason behind it is Freudian. She could've viewed him as a rival for her daughter's attention.
my mother and older sister would make fake social media accounts and catfish -- part of my mother's agenda amongst other things was to try and force me into thinking I'm gay. Needless to say I don't talk to either of them anymore
coming from an abusive mother myself, the fact that it's reported that she continuously told her daughter to "k*ll herself" leads me to believe that the mother didn't want to be a mother and wanted to rid the world of her daughter without getting her own hands dirty. the fact that no one seems to be wise to that nefariousness is super concerning to me
This isn’t just traumatic it’s heart and soul breaking, it’s one thing to deal w the trauma of high school bullies. It’s another to deal with this. I can’t even imagine how much anger confusion and despair I would be feeling if I was the daughter.
“She didn’t want to be responsible for sending her mother to jail” Lol she’s not responsible, this is 100% on her crazy mum. Really feel bad for this girl.
the amount of distrust that daughter is going to have towards others is astounding, i hope she understands that her mother was / is sick, and that this is not a normal situation for anyone to be in.
Not receiving an explanation could make that harder. She's just gonna wonder "Why ME? What did I do, what's wrong with me? Would anyone target me for the same reason?"
you dont really recover from that kinda shit. I've been lied to for years and had a bunch of money stolen from one of the people who raised me who put up similar ridiculous facades, fake online identities and everything. I understand she's sick in the head (still accepts 0 responsibility for anything) but that doesn't take away the realization that no matter how close a person is to you, anyone can lie to you and get away with it if they want. even the people you wouldn't expect in a million years.
@@TheT3rr0rMask years and years of therapy is the only way to help rewire someone's brain, if the daughter goes and seeks help. this happened during one of the most pivotal stages in a child's development too and so i hate to know that she is going to be struggling for a long time because of a monster of a person. you cant even call that person a mother or a parent.
no i understand this, my mum and her sisters have tried to sabotage my independence and self esteem my whole life, i guess they're narcissists w internalised misogyny, bc she's so kind and gentle w my male cousins, but the hatred she has treated me w by comparison, i think she sees me and sees everything she hates about herself, doesn't want to see me "surpassing" her and becoming successful, or at least "leaving her", so she'll always be in control, always "dominate" me a lot of people talk about physically abusive fathers, but no one really talks about the insidiousness of emotionally abusive mothers anyway i live in a diff country from her now, it took a lot to get away, but i hope i'll never have daughters (or children at all) for fear of becoming like her and her sisters
I definitely get some “Savior” vibes, creating a hateful character to torment her daughter and then act the caring mom who will work with authorities to stop the bullying.
@@sliyan6726 True story, tho usually volunteers starting forest fires. Then they get to be the hero that puts out the fire. Don’t get me wrong, not ALL firefighters are arsonists, but it does happen.
@@sliyan6726It’s not the majority. It’s a very very small minority. You can read about it yourself. I just wanted to correct this, because it’s like the police shooting thing. People tend to think thousands upon thousands are killed by cops every year, making the majority of cops bad. But less than 1,500 African Americans, less than 3,000 Caucasian’s have been killed by cops SINCE 2017. ( it’s around 200 per year, and 400 respectively) And who knows how many were justified ( ie a person being armed, shooting at the cops, trying to take a cops gun etc)
This reminds me of a very sad story from the early years of "everyone's online now" and why cases like this are tried with prison time, now. In 2006 a woman and her daughter absolutely hated a young girl who used to be friends but had a falling out. So, they created a fake MySpace account and pretended to be a young boy interested in the girl. After the talking to her for so long and eventually becoming and feigning interest in her they flipped the script and began harassing her relentlessly... the girl ended up committing suicide. The sick woman even attended the girls funeral and said she did not feel guilty for what she did because the girl had tried to commit suicide before. The young girl's name was Megan Meier.
there's definitely some twisted psychotic reason behind it. from envy because her daughter is in a good relationship or over possessiveness, to her having feelings on the bf and she views her as competition
not surprised by this mom-of-teenage-daughter behavior. honestly so many girls, as they approach adulthood, have their mom’s lash out at them - I think it’s largely just veiled jealousy. it’s like if you’re a teenage dude, just had a growth spurt, and you’re starting to get _almost_ as strong as your dad… but so he gets pissed about it and just decks you haha
Dude, parents that hate their kids for whatever reason is baffling. This reminds me of my parents. Jealousy to the point where they do what they can to hinder you. In my own life my father has called the cops on me for no reason and lied, stolen money, posted on facebook that my daughter is dead (she isnt but he wanted people to send me messages), and more. Its something about that generation of parents. Many of them need to put their kids down to feel good about themselves.
My mother was also incredibly abusive. She'd tell me to [oof] to my face ahah. I still feel affectionate towards her to a degree. It's hard to hate your own mother. I've cut my mom from my life, but I feel guilty for doing so. She's my mom, I'm expected to love her, and I do. It doesn't mean I'm not scared of her, though. I'm terrified of her.
It takes a while to accept it. And family pressure too. I wanted to sue my dad when I was younger but I was talked out of it. I felt sympathy for him for a while but now I dont. It takes energy to be that way and he made a choice. I made another choice. He could do bettee.
@@xX_Knives_Xx Nah he's just saying it's kinda wild she never blocked her at any point after a year of harassment. Like it seems like an easy solution to avoid being spammed with hate on the daily, not that she did anything wrong by not blocking her
@@xX_Knives_XxI am actually. Any kid on the internet can find a fucking ip address and just stop opening them. All this tech for kids and they whine when someone uses it in a way they don’t approve of.
They can just send the child to social department or orphanage OR let the caring relatives taking care the child and let them adopt the child if they arent that willing or capable
@@ainzer2903some people have kids simply so they have something that will be subservient to them, something that CANT leave. And once they’re old enough to finally get away, this kind of stuff happens. Some people get off on seeing those who they should love and protect the most suffer. And some people never saw something they didn’t want to kick, just to see if it would still come back to them. Emotional sadists.
I agree wholeheartedly. And there are too many people out there who would make absolutely wonderful parents who can't have children. Not to mention the 16,000 kids (in my state alone) in foster care due to their terrible parents.
I think it was probably a way for the mother to make herself seem more essential in her daughter's life in some way. Like providing emotional support and shit and always being soooo eager to catch that darn stalker. She wanted her daughter to continue being utterly emotionally dependent on her forever
At a surface level, it reminds me of those nurses who nearly kill their patient but miraculously save them just in the nick of time to be the hero. You know... When it works and they don't accidentally actually kill their patient. That being said, I'm not a mind reader and I don't have *all* the information so it's just speculation on my part. I can definitely think of other motives too. Like maybe the stuff she was saying had a kernal of truth and she was trying to get her daughter to improve but didn't have the backbone to have the hard conversations. Or maybe it was just plain ol' hatred.
I wonder if it IS Munchausen with a twist. What if she wanted to be her daughter’s comforter and rescuer? She sees that if her daughter is frightened and sad, and the worse the texts get, the more the daughter stays at home, turns to her for comfort and actually TALKS to her. It might have started with a couple slightly nasty texts from the girls’s friends, the girl talks to her mom about them and the mom sees it as an opportunity to “strengthen their relationship.” As a parent, like all the other parents in history, there comes a time when your baby just isn’t that interested in being around you or even talking to you about things. It is very sad for parents, but we just accept that they are growing up and becoming independent. I think no parent would want to admit they would do something so viscous and trauma-creating just to get their child to talk to them more. It certainly does indicate a severe co-dependence and insecurity rather than malevolent intentions, imho. A bit like a parent who convinces a child they mustn’t ever leave the house because of danger….but she added a bit of drama and threat evidence to help convince. No completely balanced parent would ever understand & think that was ok & maybe she thought confessing it would get her a higher sentence (or committed)
It is a shame the daughter wanted such a lenient sentence for the mother, she shouldn't feel guilty that her mother is facing consequences for harassing not only her but her boyfriend too! I am glad the boyfriend and his family did not go easy on the mother, because something as atrocious as that can't just be excused without punishment.
@@Naoto-kun1085bro it's her own mother, it's easy for you to judge but if your own mother does it no matter what it's your mother you love her you don't want her to go to prison forever, think about it.
@@starboiklem8381 My mother would never do something like this, but if she did then I would feel heartbroken and betrayed, and I would want her to be held accountable for her actions, because if she got away with actual abuse without facing any consequences, she would will never learn! Consequences are necessary for growth, so even if I forgave her then I'd still expect her to face the consequences for her own good. However, the daughter may not be old enough to recognize this, and so I don't blame her for not knowing this, but it's still sad.
It could also be a sort of hero complex. Be there to hold your daughter, couch your daughter through this, get attention from friends around you saying you’re doing a good job comforting.
My idea was a variation of that- it's a twisted new form of "Munchausen by proxy". In the place of faking medical conditions for attention it's instead cyber-bullying
Charlie points that out in the video. Münchausen syndrome. It’s usually when a mother deliberately gets their child sick, so they can be seen as the hero that takes care of her babies
I know exactly why the mom did it. I was raised by a mother just like her, except she said every cruel thing to my face. Every day, screaming, blaming, accusing me and punishing me for just being a kid. It’s sad how being bullied by your own parent (aka emotional abuse) isn’t taken seriously until they hide behind a social media account, then suddenly it’s considered stalking and abuse of a minor.
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
I have no idea who my biggest hater is, and frankly, unless they start having a physical bearing on my life, I don't really care. I try my best to get along with others, and if they don't like me, then they don't have to associate with me. Maybe it was someone I cut off one time.
As someone who grew up with a stepmother who hated every aspect of their life, I immediately thought it was a situation like that. My stepmom would make petty comments about everything I wore, how I did my hair, my friends, my interests...everything. They made her feel good and destroyed my self-esteem to the point where I had to fall in line with whatever she wanted to feel remotely good. I really feel like this situation was similar to mine, but she was trying to mask that she was the one doing it so the parent/child bond wouldn't be broken.
I just want to say to the OP and to the reply towards the OP that I admire both of your courage to share your stories and I hope that in doing so, both of you are able to find some comfort and healing. I hope that someday both of you can be surrounded by those who appreciate and value you for who you are.
That sounds very much like Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Having a mother like that whether biological or not, can leave a person with Complex PTSD. Not fun.
As someone who's mom actively tells me how everyone including animals actually hates me and I have no real friends except her I think her mom just wanted the daughter isolated and depressed so she's easier to control. It also feels like passive aggressive anger where she can punish her daughter whenever she feels like it but still make herself the good guy. My mom is exactly like this.
What's crazy to me is that she had to act differently in person to not rise any eyebrows for her being the one doing it. If she straight up showed her hatred, people would've picked on her way sooner. Imagine.
_I am familiar with this evil patterns of behavior. The mother was a textbook narcissist, by the way. My experience tells me that the mother's motivation for doing what she did to her own daughter was, in a word, ENVY!! I am willing to bet my own life on it: I have seen this before._
My grandmother did stuff like this to multiple generations cos she's a repulsive psycho. She was worse if she suspected you were "abandoning" her. (She literally tried to get my aunt killed cos she DARED to get engaged. She also spread around that i chose to be a pr0 stitute cos I chose to get married instead of choosing to be her free nurse) From personal experience... This lunatic probably saw her daughter being more independent and having a bf... and wanted to attack to "keep her in line". This is a woman that feels entitled to her child's personal life and like she OWNS her therefore she bullied this girl to keep her down, tame and scared. And depending on her "caring mother" that went as far as getting an investigation started. This is so sickening and i hope her daughter gets all the love and support she needs after this selfish monster did this.
Her mother was getting enjoyment from causing mental anguish to others, even her own daughter. Now she will spend the rest of her life known as the disgusting mother who terrorized her own daughter.
every time i come across a new social media influencer/creator and i see really hateful comments, i remind them that its usually almost always someone they personally know. strangers dont have that level of passion.
thats crazy bro like dang liike holy moly like crazt like on my god my like osh luje nano abouto like me and i like me personally like ohj no like me like thats way to off bro like holy@@realyozYFGA
@@elbowman9213 Narcissistic parents always feel entitled to a relationship with their children. She absolutely will be wondering this with zero self awareness.
Can’t even imagine what the kid must be going through. I’d be even more scared of her mum when she’s out of prison, because you can just imagine she’s spent 2-5 years thinking how she’s going to worm her way back into her life. You’d never be able to trust her again, yet she’ll clearly claim she loves her and she’s sorry.
I can only imagine this was some sort of misguided attempt to ‘toughen up’ her daughter and give her more resilience. Maybe she experienced something like that at her age and thought it would be a good growth experience… (obviously this doesn’t justify anything she is a monster) This is literally the only way I can explain how she would bully her own child online yet be supportive in person and try to “work with the police” and “put stop to it” This is just how generational trauma works I guess
@@brodyspears8290I don’t know… If you just wanted to shit on your child for a laugh, why go through this elaborate plot of playing both sides of the game and trying to dupe the police with a vpn and framing some other kid?
My SiL & Aunt does shit like this. I remember being like 12,13 years old & these two grown as women are bullying a child. They kept it up til I was 24. The only reason why I ever put up with it was because of my grandparents (long story). They stalk me on all social medias. I was being told to admit myself into a mental hospital, kill myself, get on certain medications for a “manic episode” (I don’t have those), so forth & so on. I recently gave them a giant middle finger towards both of them whenever my abusive deadbeat dad died (they were threatening me around that time so I aired out their laundry & threats to everyone we know). I have been in therapy for 4 years & I’m just now getting into my teenage years. The trauma is there & bad.
Her working with authorities to find herself sounds like Death Note 😭
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I was thinking the same thing! thanks for posting this
😂 for reeeaaaaal. I laughed so loud
They must've put L on this case😂😂
Real 😂
Wakes up.
Bullies daughter for years.
Refuses to elaborate.
Goes to prison.
reverse flash levels of hate
Top comment.
It was ME, daughter! I was the who told you to jump!
@@ScarfaceLittlebee-mj2chwhile one IS The super fan of a super hero going Full Yandere/mental The other IS The mother wanting something for someone reason that involves harasing here own dauther.
story of my life
Control! The daughter had friends and a bf and was living her life. Mother needed to put her back "in her place". Narcissists cant allow you to do better than them.
manipulators* dont lump us with NPD with people like her
my mother didnt do this exact thing, but very very similar, and shes a narcissist.
Narcissistic mothers WILL try to ruin their daughter's life!!!!
my mom is diagnosed with NPD and she sent me formspring questions back in 2008ish so, yeah, p much lol. caught her in it one day, asked why, never got a good reason.
My aunt has narc tendencies. She'd consistently tell me I was fat and body shame me.
I'd take off my glasses and say "Here, you need em more than I do. Cause I'm 20 pounds UNDERweight. You're the one that's always wanting to lose weight. Stop projecting"
She'd throw stuff in my room for insulting her like that.
A mother telling her own child to kill herself is so gross. What a monster!
Its really sad a mother should be caring and sweet not like this person
@@jadnassar6073jeez you should meet my mum
Yeah. My dad did that to me repeatedly when I was actually dealing with suicidal ideation and the guy can’t figure out why I don’t want him in my life anymore. ✂️
What’s extra cool about that is my ex-fiancé knew this was going on but wouldn’t let me put boundaries up with my dad because my dad didn’t do it to him, lol… and that’s why he’s my ex-fiancé. ✂️
@@naomianomaly8540 stop i want more attention than you
@@Lightnang_strike Lol you can have it. ❤️
Mom is such a true hater, paying for her daughter’s phone plan just to make sure she can’t get away from the hate. Astonishing.
daughter should've just turned off her phone
@@Ghost_Face-TheeZazaSmokryou don’t get out much do you
@@AdrianCosmanyou are on a stolen account
@@Ghost_Face-TheeZazaSmokr your mother should've turned your father off the night you were concieved
You can block any number lol
She told her own child to end herself, one of the most evil things anyone can say, let alone her own mother. I hope the daughter is getting all the help she needs to heal from the damage inflicted by this horrific, evil monster.
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words…
Oh it happens I assure you.
@@Bournenotrarecan break your heart
Oh good its such a shame that you cant block a person harrasing you 😂
if its your own mom, you cant really block her can you?
@@reapexer
My mom does a similar thing. She always forced me to eat large amounts of food as a child, because she wanted me to be large and unattractive. She’d actively sabotage friendships and relationships to make me be alone. It took over a decade of not living under her roof to get my head on straight. The psychological damage is the worst part.
Damn that sucks. I hope you are better now.
I'm so sorry this happened to you, i can't even imagine my own mom trying to make me feel horrible. I really hope you're better now with plenty of friends and relationships, I wish you the best :)
Sorry about that mate, my parents are fucked up too so I'm here for you
@@lucasrome2301trust me she doesn’t
All kids deserve perents, BUT BOLY SHIT NOT ALL PERENTS DESERVE KIDS, I feel so horrible for you
My mother was a narcissistic sociopath who hated young females; specifically me, and eventually my daughter. But it also extended to my nieces (her grandchildren) and my one female cousin. I have two brothers and she treated us much differently growing up, and as adults. I was a teenager in the 70's, so we didn't have social media. She had to bully me in person, which she did every chance she got. She died 8 years ago and I still don't miss her. The repercussions of what this woman has done to her own daughter will last a lifetime.
I remember the first of my Daughters birthdays that my Mom bothered showing up for was about her 5th or 6th birthday and we decided to go to the local amusement park. As soon as we got in my little sister wanted to zip off to the roller coasters and I was like hey woah it's my Daughters birthday we should go to kiddy land first. We had all day we could have gone to every ride in that park it wasn't a very large park. My Mom and Little Sister and Step Dad and Step Sister just bailed off to rollercoaster land. Through the day I'd catch my Step Dad randomly standing around glaring at us while we spent all day in kid land with my Daughter and her cousins and other relatives closer to her age.
I have a similar upbringing! My mother is def not a narcissist. But she has very few warm and fuzzies. She loved her boys. But us girls were only supposed to be something if we married a man. Big surprise all three of the girls are now divorced from men who mistreated us. The five boys are all happily married and well adjusted. I wish I figured it out sooner. It takes time to believe I’m worthy of anything on my own.
@@Drak976,
Good for you to know your priority......your lil' girl ❤️
Your good sense mothering and kind heart will shine through your daughter to your grandchildren! You're making a Forever Legacy.
Hearing you, reading your story makes me so happy.
I broke the cycle with my kids, and seeing how good they are with my grandchildren makes my heart sing. 🌷❤️🌷
Love is stronger than anything they can throw your way. You're powerful, mama! God bless U!
@@BeckysinlondonI know how you feel ❤️🩹
@@Drak976please don’t bring them around her and make sure she’s never alone with them
I cannot believe I'm seeing this again. Kendra was my BOSS at my colleges IT dept. Most of us believed she did it because she was getting "jealous" of her daughter for basically growing up and spending more time with her friends instead of her. She would always talk about how she's the cool parent... Best part is she was using campus resources to harass her daughter.
I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Kendra was trying to make her kid super depressed to ruin her childs career/freedom and also Garner sympathy for herself
Same.
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
Collages? How are college graduates always the dumbest people?
Holy hell that's wild.
I imagine she was an awful boss lmfao
The only motive I can honestly think of is that the mother is just absolutely miserable and can't stand the thought of her own daughter being happy.
that’s exactly it.
She wants to kill jer daughter but lacks the ability to do it herself. Disgusting
Not surprising, she looks like she peaked in high school
There's definitely a nonzero percentage of people who have children or pets solely to have control/power over something in their life. They're almost always insecure and submissive in all other aspects.
somehow worse than the ones that live their lives and let go of their regrets through their children
Working with authorities and trying to frame someone else should be its own crime with extra sentence. What a sicko.
AGREED
Family isn't everything. It's not even the only thing....
You can't choose the family you're born into... but even friends and strangers can be more compassionate towards you than family.
😢sadly true especially nowadays
You're absolutely right! I have had strangers on the street treat me better than my mother.
The gods gave us relatives, but thank God we can choose our friends.
@@MaureenLycaon you're so right.
Yeah… you don’t get to choose your family and when you have a good one you’ve actually lucked out. Seek healing ❤.
You may be correct about the mother having been bullied at some point while growing up. My mother took great pleasure in punishing me for things that happened to her. The one phrase burned into my memory is "Somebody did this to me and I want you to know what it was like." The dirty secret is that some mothers hate their children. Thank God this one got caught.
WTF so bizarre she would do that given she knew what it felt like. Or do you think she’s secretly a sadomasochist? Very strange sorry you went through that
Ah. Yes. A wise choice to birth a child first whilst the mother has crystal clear issues and problems with her mental life. No need to raise them properly. What can go wrong when the child becomes an adult? 😊👍
Very true…some mothers really do hate their children
@@margaretbonanno654Parents are stupid
You are absolutely right. Some mothers hate their children. It’s hard for most people to grasp that but it’s very true.
I can’t imagine the trauma the daughter has now because her mom was like this... absolutely terrible
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY UA-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
I recently got betrayed by my friends and got depressed for 2 weeks. Can't imagine how the daughter will be knowing her own mother did to her
6 bots. 6 fucking bots. Like, how the fuck does Charlie not do anything about these? It's fucking annoying
@@NathanRibeirodeFrancaYegrosFeryou ban one and 3 more take their place so quit complaining and just ignore them
@@anybody._ do nothing and 3 still pop up anyway. Better get something done than just let bot spammers take hold of the entire comment section.
I discovered my own mother had been creating problems for me over the decades too, it's a very strange scenario to accept. Some people are very manipulative, dark, and evil, they'll come across as very well natured too, that's the worst part.
My mom was mad that I refused to speak w her, so she called cops and said I threatened to off her. That guaranteed me not speaking to her. Now she is at end of life stage and pretty much alone bc my bro put her in a facility 90 miles away in a mountain town w no access via bus or rail.
same. except my mom still lives in her home. She showed up at my job a few weeks ago and badmouthed me to my boss. she is 70 and still pissed at my dad from 40 years ago and still taking it out on me. I'm getting a restraining order.
@@justinlong5892In “My Mother the Psychopath” by Olivia Rayne, the author describes how her mother called the director of the summer camp where the daughter was working, and told him that her daughter was a sex offender! Luckily Olivia was able to prove this wasn’t true.
Thats what most narcissistic mother's, outwardly appearance to everyone els us that of a friendly, helpful, loving person. But as soon as your alone behind closed doors......
Yep, especially if they have people in their church fooled
Mom sounds jealous, vindictive, and sadistic.
During my childhood & adolescence, if I showed the least bit of admiration for a mature woman, mom would go bats*it crazy, & work hard to find some fault with that person.
She's extremely old now & still has the emotional mindset of a very mean 11 yr old.
Some moms have a pathological hatred for their daughters.
It's destructive AF for adolescent girls.
It's not a good sign the daughter wants the Court to "go easy" on her mom.
Codependency is toxic!
I can’t imagine how the daughter feels to find out that your mom hates you THAT much.
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY UA-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
You didn’t finish the video.
three replies up there are fatherless
Wtf are these comments bruh
ok
This is beyond sick, imagine being that jealous of your own child.
My mom was, I was adopted. She hated the attention i got. She alway broght up me being adopted.
@I hope it does
@What kind of Tolkien language is this?
Go band for band bloodclat @@realyozYFGA
@Wait, hearts beat??
"Why would anyone ever do this?"
Sometimes I think we try to hard to figure stuff like this out, when sometimes it's just because they can...
It's never just "because one can".
There's always some underlying condition and problem rhetorik that resulted in this behavior.
@@hiiambarney4489 She's a narcissist. She can't stand that her daughter is happier. Might be a psychopath too.
*Remembers Undertale*
Absolutely nailed it on the Münchausen-by-proxy analysis. It's a really unusual variation in that the methods used were purely social rather than physiological, but the root pathology is obviously present.
The psychological case studies that are going to come out of this one are going to be fascinating, and they definitely aren't going to reflect flatteringly on a lot of people.
I hope this line of thinking gets chased down, somehow. Seeing a lot of stories in the comments similar to this, similar to mine, of how we (the daughters) were "our mothers' only friend/supporter", lots of cases of kids becoming their mom's therapists etc etc. Maybe some form of long-term post partum issues? maybe attachment issues, feelings of ownership (over the child) etc caused by circumstances surrounding the child's conception and birth? In my case, my mother had a tubal litigation before i was born so i could see the resentment from that turning into the feeling that she was right to try to make me into Heidi 2: Electric Boogaloo, or something?
I agree with you about the Munchausen's by proxy. It makes sense, especially as emotional and psychological problems are so much more fashionable than old standards like leukaemia. Psychological abuse from a position of anonymity is the obvious next step. She must have loved playing the hero Mom dealing with the FBI.
@@lobstermash not just trendier, but also far easier to artificially set up or fabricate without getting caught. That said, it also seems like most of the mothers who do it more this way aren't giving a whole lot of thought to the "how" of what they're doing, which just baffles me with how elaborate the manipulation schemes usually are.
It's as if aging white suburban women just have some whole hidden cranial lobe exclusively for plotting Macchiavellian shit like this without any conscious effort. It's uncanny.
So... Munchausen by proxy server?
Munchausen isn't a real disease. It is just made up by the JWO
Only motivation that makes sense is jealousy and envy. She's probably one of those mom's who say "my daughter's my best friend, I'm a cool mom," and as her daughter grew up and started showing interest in forming other relationships she freaked out and tried to shut it down.
Hell, she may have been envious of her own daughter's successes, still bitter about her own high school experience
Possible. I was thinking it was a new form of Munchausen Syndrome, whatever you call it.
Sounds familiar to me
@@MLBlue30yeah, it really sounds like Munchausen by proxy. Mother wanted to be a victim via her daughter.
That’s not Munchausen, not even a little bit.
@@HelloSasha707 i did not claim it was. Munchausen's By Proxy is rare, and in this scenario I think it's more likely the mother was an asshole on a power trip
The way the mom worked with authorities, the FBI getting involved to raise the stakes, and the mom even trying to frame her daughter's classmate to throw them off her trail is some straight out of Death Note shit. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
I literally said the same, chick thinks she's Light 💀
Right!
@@-Teague-😭
She acting like Light Yagami
Bros on their villain arc
She slipped-up by ending all of her messages with "Love, Mom."
lol
I know and have witnessed mothers who do this. It is to maintain their control, sometimes break up relationships they dont like.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter.
Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
And by “don’t like” that can be anyone who might outshine them, or is emotionally supportive to their daughter.
Parents who are more balanced and look out for their children may have fears about bad influences or intentions, but vampire parents have other motivations.
Exactly.
The most sickening part to me is that, had her daughter followed through on taking her life, she probably would've milked that sympathy card dry for years.
I honestly think that was her plan. Obviously we don't know but since she refuses to say a motive I can only think it's because her plan was more horrible than just messing with her daughter. I don't know all the details but I could see this lady wanting to be child free or something but didn't want to look bad to the public. I think she was hoping that is her daughter took her own life she would get sympathy and attention from others and not look like the bad guy. But this could just be a wild thought brought on by movies and tv plots. But I also wouldn't put it past anyone. Look at all those cases of parents wanting a new life so they murder their kids. Poor girl all around though. No matter what the "mom" was planning she is a horrible person
Well duh it’s a woman.
@@ihateallthethings2683 Shut up, Man.
@@ihateallthethings2683???????
@@lindseyjenner7405she wanted her to do it so she can collect life insurance money
I honestly feel terribly sorry for the teenage daughter in this situation. Dealing with a bully in any capacity is awful enough, but to find out that the very bully is your own mother just hits new levels of heartbreaking.
Yeah, I just hope that the daughter has someone she can feel safe with, since her mother broke her trust so much
Hey. I'm your hater. I don't like you 😤
@@fayelinaeright
I know your worse haters are often someone close to you BUT WOW! How unfortunate does someone have to be that their own mother is being a hateful wretch towards them daily!? Sick world
👍
How much you wanna bet the entire time this was happening, the mom was going "I warned you about those dangerous people on the internet" to her own daughter to feign her caring.
My theory is that the mom was jealous of her daughter. Probably she felt as if her daughter had robbed her of her youth, or some crazy stuff like that.
Imagine someone who you trusted since birth doing this to you. Insane. I hope the daughter gets help and heals.
Dont trust nobody but yourself
It’s not insane like you think. It’s a lot more common for mothers to be petty and miserable like this mother nowadays lol. Bunch of resent people will do “insane” things
Lucky for me, I don't have to imagine 🫠 This sounds a lot like my own mother, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
@@SamFagundes it’s more common? Where did you get that statistic?
@@AnthonyBlamthony the fact that more and more mothers as a whole are getting exposed online and people in general getting exposed. dont play stupid with me you weirdo. you know damn well what im referring too. you just dont want to admit it cause your your little ego wont let you lol. but go on
Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.
The truth needs to be accepted but sometimes you can't accept the truth
@@vortexherelol the pfp makes this even more ominous
@@Killbayne :I
this comment is so over used by now. we get it already!! can you please comment something original next time?
@@scorpion-lg4ic sthu
Only a narcissist would even believe they could get away with this to the level she’ took this.
Thank God she’s growing up without her mom. She should divorce her mother. This is horrific and the mother is sick. She is a psychopath.
_not a psychopath: a NARCISSIST._
Narcissists destroy everyone they meet.
hi im a narcissist!
Only wrathful ones, prideful ones just annoy people but their so obsessed with themselves they dont have a care for taking others down
Sounds like my mother, who I've long suspected now is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
My father is diagnosed with narcissism and this couldn’t be anymore true.
You have no idea what narcissism is
This is proof that just because someone is family, doesn't mean they want the best for you
@@realyozYFGAwho are you💀gayku pfp user
Uhhh no?
@@realyozYFGABruh your videos are so bad.. you dont talk and got stupid music and tiny words around a powerpoint presentation... why not sit in front of a camera and say what u got to say unless your a shy little coward
@@ripadblockno what
I knew this after my mother left me and my sister for drugs.
Some moms are horrible jealous of their daughters. I've seen a mom build up her son while tearing down her daughter. We've heard of 1 sister being jealous of her other sister's looks. It happens with moms too. Women are taught that looking young makes you more attractive. Some moms can't handle when their daughters start looking attractive and get more attraction from guys than they do. My friend's mom was like this. Mom told lies about my friend. Refused to get her medical treatment when needed which caused life long problems. All while spoiling the brother which also caused him problems.
This is malignant narcissism in action. These monsters will destroy their own children and then play the victim.
Insane story. I think it's all about one thing. She harasses her daughter, goes public about wanting to find her harasser, hoping eventually her daughter will exit life and then she will be the poor poor mother that did EVERYTHING to save her daughter. She'll get publicity, sympathy and money.
Personally, this sounds a lot like my mother to me, who I've long suspected is a covert/vulnerable narcissist. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
Exit life? U mean commit suicide?
Money how
@@harmonyquinn2557 Maybe via social media traction, like a GoFundMe, or something of a similar sort. Seems like a thing that someone thinking like that could go for.
@@harmonyquinn2557donations from people who feel bad for her. She'd prob then start a bogus Fundraiser For Suicidal Teens in her daughter's name and pocket most of the money... then you have potential Talk Show appearances.
This is one of the strangest cases of abuse I’ve heard of. Really an out of the box way to anonymously emotionally and psychologically abuse your child. That’s sickening
maybe she was trynna get the daughter out of her life without killing her personally? \
@@danielelder6361 I think that's a pretty solid hypothesis
"Modern problems require modern solutions" 🤷🏻♂️
It's pretty cooked
I feel like this has to be fake somehow
Munchausen by proxy.
The mom wanted attention and bullied her daughter to get it.
Trusting people after that experience would be really hard. That's beyond crazy.
There’s not always something to gain; sometimes, one wants another to lose.
Imagine getting cyber bullied by the person that literally gave you life, that’s gotta be next level emotional damage
Her ability to trust people is definitely damaged forever...
whats crazy is being cyber bullied
I'm sorry but all i could think of when i read this was Stephen He
Well at least her dad didn't do that, so there's that I guess
Meet the Spy
Given how she also cyberbullied her boyfriend, this leads me to believe the reason behind it is Freudian. She could've viewed him as a rival for her daughter's attention.
Munchausen by proxy.
The mom wanted attention and bullied her daughter to get it, she probably was getting off on cooperating with the police.
my boyfriend and i are in a similar situation with his mom, she is really back handed but this mom is a whole new kind of insane for me
@@lavenderlazorise2458 Moms like this have a weird Oedipus complex with their sons, very manipulative and controlling of them too
Or she this she is in competition with her daughter for a young mans attention. This is more common for the type of girl moms who to this
Woman. ☕️
my mother and older sister would make fake social media accounts and catfish -- part of my mother's agenda amongst other things was to try and force me into thinking I'm gay. Needless to say I don't talk to either of them anymore
‘’She wont have her mom around for some time.’’
A mom like that, is it really a loss.
coming from an abusive mother myself, the fact that it's reported that she continuously told her daughter to "k*ll herself" leads me to believe that the mother didn't want to be a mother and wanted to rid the world of her daughter without getting her own hands dirty.
the fact that no one seems to be wise to that nefariousness is super concerning to me
That, or a mental issue. I agree man
I think she wanted to isolate her from her boyfriend
you're an abusive mother?
@@goofygoober875 sure, that's what i meant
@@goofygoober875reading comprehension is not your strong suit i see😂
This isn’t just traumatic it’s heart and soul breaking, it’s one thing to deal w the trauma of high school bullies. It’s another to deal with this. I can’t even imagine how much anger confusion and despair I would be feeling if I was the daughter.
this shit is so fucked that i cant stop laughing her mom is legit evilmaxxing
spawn camping
i feel like people bullying their own children is not that uncommon it just usually doesn't manifest in this way
I don’t feel bad the daughter could’ve just blocked the person
you're a moron if you think she didn't try that. @@captainsheep793
Who needs enemies when you have *mom* .
I can confirm that perfect people have haters as well. Some people go so far as to even say that I might not be perfect. It's truly reprehensible.
“She didn’t want to be responsible for sending her mother to jail”
Lol she’s not responsible, this is 100% on her crazy mum. Really feel bad for this girl.
She won't probably understand that at her age, thats why she said that.
@@realyozYFGAnobody carw about your channel so stfu
Poor girl. I hope she realises she doesn't have to keep her mother in her life and doesn't have to be nice to (let alone tolerate) her
the amount of distrust that daughter is going to have towards others is astounding, i hope she understands that her mother was / is sick, and that this is not a normal situation for anyone to be in.
Fuck that her mom isn’t sick she was aware and cognizant of her actions. Quit associating these people with mental Illness, she’s evil.
Not receiving an explanation could make that harder. She's just gonna wonder "Why ME? What did I do, what's wrong with me? Would anyone target me for the same reason?"
Don’t do coke or meth. This is a great example of her mentality going but there’s no excuse she’s an adult and it was her choices
you dont really recover from that kinda shit. I've been lied to for years and had a bunch of money stolen from one of the people who raised me who put up similar ridiculous facades, fake online identities and everything. I understand she's sick in the head (still accepts 0 responsibility for anything) but that doesn't take away the realization that no matter how close a person is to you, anyone can lie to you and get away with it if they want. even the people you wouldn't expect in a million years.
@@TheT3rr0rMask years and years of therapy is the only way to help rewire someone's brain, if the daughter goes and seeks help. this happened during one of the most pivotal stages in a child's development too and so i hate to know that she is going to be struggling for a long time because of a monster of a person. you cant even call that person a mother or a parent.
"i promise you there are people who don't like you" thanks bro
Can't have haters if no-one knows you exist.
no i understand this, my mum and her sisters have tried to sabotage my independence and self esteem my whole life, i guess they're narcissists w internalised misogyny, bc she's so kind and gentle w my male cousins, but the hatred she has treated me w by comparison, i think she sees me and sees everything she hates about herself, doesn't want to see me "surpassing" her and becoming successful, or at least "leaving her", so she'll always be in control, always "dominate" me
a lot of people talk about physically abusive fathers, but no one really talks about the insidiousness of emotionally abusive mothers
anyway i live in a diff country from her now, it took a lot to get away, but i hope i'll never have daughters (or children at all) for fear of becoming like her and her sisters
I definitely get some “Savior” vibes, creating a hateful character to torment her daughter and then act the caring mom who will work with authorities to stop the bullying.
@@realyozYFGA goku sucks
My thoughts exactly. Many arsonists turn out to be firemen.
*saviour
@@sliyan6726
True story, tho usually volunteers starting forest fires. Then they get to be the hero that puts out the fire. Don’t get me wrong, not ALL firefighters are arsonists, but it does happen.
@@sliyan6726It’s not the majority. It’s a very very small minority.
You can read about it yourself.
I just wanted to correct this, because it’s like the police shooting thing. People tend to think thousands upon thousands are killed by cops every year, making the majority of cops bad.
But less than 1,500 African Americans, less than 3,000 Caucasian’s have been killed by cops SINCE 2017.
( it’s around 200 per year, and 400 respectively)
And who knows how many were justified ( ie a person being armed, shooting at the cops, trying to take a cops gun etc)
I can't even imagine being the therapist who has to unwind this.
Yeah how do you address a patient who is that evil
@@wanderingseth "Have you considered Canadian healthcare, Mrs. Lakari?"
the fact that this mother had the gall to do this to her own daughter is sickening and i hope the girl is getting the help she needs
This reminds me of a very sad story from the early years of "everyone's online now" and why cases like this are tried with prison time, now.
In 2006 a woman and her daughter absolutely hated a young girl who used to be friends but had a falling out. So, they created a fake MySpace account and pretended to be a young boy interested in the girl. After the talking to her for so long and eventually becoming and feigning interest in her they flipped the script and began harassing her relentlessly... the girl ended up committing suicide. The sick woman even attended the girls funeral and said she did not feel guilty for what she did because the girl had tried to commit suicide before. The young girl's name was Megan Meier.
Her mother really took the quote, “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”, to the heart. Sheesh!
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incest i guess
NAWW literally 😭😭
D1 HATER ON SIGHT
reverse flash
there's definitely some twisted psychotic reason behind it. from envy because her daughter is in a good relationship or over possessiveness, to her having feelings on the bf and she views her as competition
it was just a prank dude
Munchausen by proxy.
@@realyozYFGAdon't care + I have proof you like to watch sissy hypnosis videos when you're done typing these comments
@@realyozYFGAyou give shame with that pfp
not surprised by this mom-of-teenage-daughter behavior. honestly so many girls, as they approach adulthood, have their mom’s lash out at them - I think it’s largely just veiled jealousy.
it’s like if you’re a teenage dude, just had a growth spurt, and you’re starting to get _almost_ as strong as your dad… but so he gets pissed about it and just decks you haha
Dude, parents that hate their kids for whatever reason is baffling. This reminds me of my parents. Jealousy to the point where they do what they can to hinder you. In my own life my father has called the cops on me for no reason and lied, stolen money, posted on facebook that my daughter is dead (she isnt but he wanted people to send me messages), and more. Its something about that generation of parents. Many of them need to put their kids down to feel good about themselves.
It's not just "that generaion". Narcissism and psychopathy can be demonstrated all thru history.
I know exactly who hates me. Knowing doesn’t help the dealing with the hatred part, unfortunately.
It's mind boggling how pointless some of these criminals actions are, like they don't even gain anything at the end of the day.
Here before the trolls come
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY UA-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
Straight outta american dad episode 💀
@@XxProGamerUSAxX nah cuz the mom's trolling came before even u
It is nothing for you because you are normal, for the mom and her pathetic life it is everything she has, and gets her kicks out of it.
What's really sad is that the daughter wanted leniency for the mom. Shows you that she would still love her mom no matter what kind of person she is.
My mother was also incredibly abusive. She'd tell me to [oof] to my face ahah. I still feel affectionate towards her to a degree. It's hard to hate your own mother. I've cut my mom from my life, but I feel guilty for doing so. She's my mom, I'm expected to love her, and I do. It doesn't mean I'm not scared of her, though. I'm terrified of her.
It takes a while to accept it. And family pressure too. I wanted to sue my dad when I was younger but I was talked out of it. I felt sympathy for him for a while but now I dont. It takes energy to be that way and he made a choice. I made another choice. He could do bettee.
But the mother will never love the girl unconditionally
@@Blue_Azure101 the mother will never love period ahe can't. She doesn't even love herself.
It's called unconditional love ❤️
"I'm the last person I would have expected, but I was looking for *ME* the whole time! It's the perfect crime!"
I remember this case and I couldn't imagine the hurt the daughter felt
Really impressed by the commitment, she was sending these messages for over a year like it was her 9-5
Also how do you recieve 300 pages of messages without blocking this shit 😭.
@@layn7115 that is what I'm wondering.would of had them blocked day 1 xD
@@layn7115 im sorry but are you victim blaming the child that was getting harassed by her own mother????
@@xX_Knives_Xx Nah he's just saying it's kinda wild she never blocked her at any point after a year of harassment. Like it seems like an easy solution to avoid being spammed with hate on the daily, not that she did anything wrong by not blocking her
@@xX_Knives_XxI am actually. Any kid on the internet can find a fucking ip address and just stop opening them. All this tech for kids and they whine when someone uses it in a way they don’t approve of.
So many people don’t deserve to have kids, it’s sad.
Yeah, I wonder why those having kids in first place if in the end they hate it and abandon them...
They can just send the child to social department or orphanage OR let the caring relatives taking care the child and let them adopt the child if they arent that willing or capable
Or just dont do any marriage or the "deed" at all
@@ainzer2903some people have kids simply so they have something that will be subservient to them, something that CANT leave. And once they’re old enough to finally get away, this kind of stuff happens. Some people get off on seeing those who they should love and protect the most suffer. And some people never saw something they didn’t want to kick, just to see if it would still come back to them.
Emotional sadists.
I agree wholeheartedly. And there are too many people out there who would make absolutely wonderful parents who can't have children. Not to mention the 16,000 kids (in my state alone) in foster care due to their terrible parents.
The mom was probably trying to make her daughter rely on her as she probably felt insecure about her parenting, likely for things she had done before.
Thank you for covering that again I didn't hear about it
This takes the quote "keep your friends close but your enemies closer" to the a whole new level
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY UA-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
I don't apologise to bully my family
i sware charlies channel is just bot central at this point
@Nobody cares.
The text are coming...from inside the house!
New Scary story to read in Dark GenZ version.
I think it was probably a way for the mother to make herself seem more essential in her daughter's life in some way. Like providing emotional support and shit and always being soooo eager to catch that darn stalker. She wanted her daughter to continue being utterly emotionally dependent on her forever
My thoughts as well and it seems very obvious. She wanted to be her daughter's hero.
Great analysis
At a surface level, it reminds me of those nurses who nearly kill their patient but miraculously save them just in the nick of time to be the hero. You know... When it works and they don't accidentally actually kill their patient.
That being said, I'm not a mind reader and I don't have *all* the information so it's just speculation on my part.
I can definitely think of other motives too. Like maybe the stuff she was saying had a kernal of truth and she was trying to get her daughter to improve but didn't have the backbone to have the hard conversations. Or maybe it was just plain ol' hatred.
Ngl, doing all this, supporting her through then turning out to be the very culprit is in a wicked way the ultimate and final bullying move.
I wonder if it IS Munchausen with a twist. What if she wanted to be her daughter’s comforter and rescuer? She sees that if her daughter is frightened and sad, and the worse the texts get, the more the daughter stays at home, turns to her for comfort and actually TALKS to her. It might have started with a couple slightly nasty texts from the girls’s friends, the girl talks to her mom about them and the mom sees it as an opportunity to “strengthen their relationship.”
As a parent, like all the other parents in history, there comes a time when your baby just isn’t that interested in being around you or even talking to you about things. It is very sad for parents, but we just accept that they are growing up and becoming independent.
I think no parent would want to admit they would do something so viscous and trauma-creating just to get their child to talk to them more. It certainly does indicate a severe co-dependence and insecurity rather than malevolent intentions, imho.
A bit like a parent who convinces a child they mustn’t ever leave the house because of danger….but she added a bit of drama and threat evidence to help convince.
No completely balanced parent would ever understand & think that was ok & maybe she thought confessing it would get her a higher sentence (or committed)
No.. she is evil... why add incentives for her daughter to KILL HERSELF?
I bet she was even messaging her stuff like “Your parents probably hate you” only for her daughter to find out it’s actually her mom
talk about projection lmao
It's a shame she got so short of a sentence, I'm sure her daughter would appreciate the extra calm and peace.
It is a shame the daughter wanted such a lenient sentence for the mother, she shouldn't feel guilty that her mother is facing consequences for harassing not only her but her boyfriend too! I am glad the boyfriend and his family did not go easy on the mother, because something as atrocious as that can't just be excused without punishment.
@@Naoto-kun1085bro it's her own mother, it's easy for you to judge but if your own mother does it no matter what it's your mother you love her you don't want her to go to prison forever, think about it.
But maybe i say this because my mother is awesome tbh, idk
@@starboiklem8381 My mother would never do something like this, but if she did then I would feel heartbroken and betrayed, and I would want her to be held accountable for her actions, because if she got away with actual abuse without facing any consequences, she would will never learn! Consequences are necessary for growth, so even if I forgave her then I'd still expect her to face the consequences for her own good. However, the daughter may not be old enough to recognize this, and so I don't blame her for not knowing this, but it's still sad.
@@starboiklem8381it's so glaringly obvious that you've never been abused or traumatized by your own parents saying this shit
She probably just regrets having the kid and wants to get rid of her with no strings attached. So messed up smh
Nothing the mom will say would make the situation better for her. So she says nothing.
It could also be a sort of hero complex. Be there to hold your daughter, couch your daughter through this, get attention from friends around you saying you’re doing a good job comforting.
My idea was a variation of that- it's a twisted new form of "Munchausen by proxy". In the place of faking medical conditions for attention it's instead cyber-bullying
Charlie points that out in the video. Münchausen syndrome. It’s usually when a mother deliberately gets their child sick, so they can be seen as the hero that takes care of her babies
@@McZachary44 Oh my mistake, I must of missed it. I paused and resumed the video a few times as I was doing some cooking.
@@McZachary44 Münchausen is a different mental illness to hero complex. It kind of stems from the same.
@@McZachary44 Münchausen syndrome by proxy is that one that probably exists, but is still debated a little bit right?
I know exactly why the mom did it. I was raised by a mother just like her, except she said every cruel thing to my face. Every day, screaming, blaming, accusing me and punishing me for just being a kid. It’s sad how being bullied by your own parent (aka emotional abuse) isn’t taken seriously until they hide behind a social media account, then suddenly it’s considered stalking and abuse of a minor.
Sounds like my mother. She was so different and "christian" and quiet outside of the house, though, to the point that even my husband thought that I was overdramatizing it - at the exact same time that she had been encouraging my identical twin sister to stalk and harass me _for years_ for literally just dating someone for the very first time at the age of 23 - and that's not even getting into all of my childhood BS. My personal guess is this is some narcissistic sociopathic sh*t.
I would argue that Cyrus the great was a greater leader than Alexander the Great, any day
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Props to the daughter for not losing her way.
I have no idea who my biggest hater is, and frankly, unless they start having a physical bearing on my life, I don't really care. I try my best to get along with others, and if they don't like me, then they don't have to associate with me. Maybe it was someone I cut off one time.
As someone who grew up with a stepmother who hated every aspect of their life, I immediately thought it was a situation like that. My stepmom would make petty comments about everything I wore, how I did my hair, my friends, my interests...everything. They made her feel good and destroyed my self-esteem to the point where I had to fall in line with whatever she wanted to feel remotely good. I really feel like this situation was similar to mine, but she was trying to mask that she was the one doing it so the parent/child bond wouldn't be broken.
Do you suspect NPD is the issue?
Also, sorry about all of the bs you had to endure. Wish you well on the road to healing.
I just want to say to the OP and to the reply towards the OP that I admire both of your courage to share your stories and I hope that in doing so, both of you are able to find some comfort and healing. I hope that someday both of you can be surrounded by those who appreciate and value you for who you are.
That sounds very much like Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Having a mother like that whether biological or not, can leave a person with Complex PTSD. Not fun.
@@raya6508Was there any justice?
@@raya6508 If I was a dictator, these people would feel absolute wrath on earth, just along with porn site owners and zionist politicians.
As someone who's mom actively tells me how everyone including animals actually hates me and I have no real friends except her I think her mom just wanted the daughter isolated and depressed so she's easier to control. It also feels like passive aggressive anger where she can punish her daughter whenever she feels like it but still make herself the good guy. My mom is exactly like this.
So sorry you have to go through that. Hope you have a support system to help you deal with this. Good luck.
Damn that sucks. I am glad you are aware of it and can try to escape from that abuse. Temporarily or for good.
Damn that sucks. I am glad you are aware of it and can try to escape from that abuse. Temporarily or for good.
Damn that sucks. I am glad you are aware of it and can try to escape from that abuse. Temporarily or for good.
What's crazy to me is that she had to act differently in person to not rise any eyebrows for her being the one doing it. If she straight up showed her hatred, people would've picked on her way sooner. Imagine.
Charlie you should try wearing your hair pulled back with bangs more it looks really nice!
That's depressing
Every child deserves a parent.
Not every parent deserves a child.
Make no sense
@@VJETRAevery child deserves a good and loving parent, but not all people who are parents should EVER have had children, like this mother
@@gooodmorning4526 yes i know but when you use the same parent word make it sound like it implying all parent.
@@VJETRA they literally said "not every parent" wdym
@@gooodmorning4526 the text above only say parent so it include the "some parent " below
With a mother like that, who needs enemies?
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_I am familiar with this evil patterns of behavior. The mother was a textbook narcissist, by the way. My experience tells me that the mother's motivation for doing what she did to her own daughter was, in a word, ENVY!! I am willing to bet my own life on it: I have seen this before._
My grandmother did stuff like this to multiple generations cos she's a repulsive psycho. She was worse if she suspected you were "abandoning" her. (She literally tried to get my aunt killed cos she DARED to get engaged. She also spread around that i chose to be a pr0 stitute cos I chose to get married instead of choosing to be her free nurse)
From personal experience... This lunatic probably saw her daughter being more independent and having a bf... and wanted to attack to "keep her in line". This is a woman that feels entitled to her child's personal life and like she OWNS her therefore she bullied this girl to keep her down, tame and scared.
And depending on her "caring mother" that went as far as getting an investigation started.
This is so sickening and i hope her daughter gets all the love and support she needs after this selfish monster did this.
Her mother was getting enjoyment from causing mental anguish to others, even her own daughter.
Now she will spend the rest of her life known as the disgusting mother who terrorized her own daughter.
this looks very much like Munchhausen by proxy to me - and the mother used new tech
Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child
"The call is coming from inside the house!"
@@realyozYFGA Lies
@@realyozYFGAyour parents don’t love you
They wouldn’t have caught me I’m just saying
That poor poor girl, Jesus. Finding out your mom was the one doing that must have been the worst pain.
every time i come across a new social media influencer/creator and i see really hateful comments, i remind them that its usually almost always someone they personally know. strangers dont have that level of passion.
Dio level of hatred
thats crazy bro like dang liike holy moly like crazt like on my god my like osh luje nano abouto like me and i like me personally like ohj no like me like thats way to off bro like holy@@realyozYFGA
Didnt ask weeb
Lol fr dio sitting back impressed with this one
Reverse flash level of hatred
Reminds me when light worked with L to find kira
Years later, I bet that mom is going to wonder why her daughter doesn't call or visit anymore.
fr, this is so sad
No she’s not..
No, did you watch the video? But who cares you're probably a bot that copied a comment
Some loser spamming comments I reported them
@@elbowman9213 Narcissistic parents always feel entitled to a relationship with their children. She absolutely will be wondering this with zero self awareness.
"Even if the Perfect person did exist they would have haters."
Jesus Christ is a testament to that.
idk this guy gave out wine which is quite harmful
This is probably one of the most evil things iv ever seen
Can’t even imagine what the kid must be going through. I’d be even more scared of her mum when she’s out of prison, because you can just imagine she’s spent 2-5 years thinking how she’s going to worm her way back into her life. You’d never be able to trust her again, yet she’ll clearly claim she loves her and she’s sorry.
How can you mess up that bad to bully your own child 💀💀
I can only imagine this was some sort of misguided attempt to ‘toughen up’ her daughter and give her more resilience. Maybe she experienced something like that at her age and thought it would be a good growth experience… (obviously this doesn’t justify anything she is a monster) This is literally the only way I can explain how she would bully her own child online yet be supportive in person and try to “work with the police” and “put stop to it”
This is just how generational trauma works I guess
@@anironfarm6056this is just regular narcissistic controlling parent behavior
drugs or schizophrenia
@@anironfarm6056 This sounds like something Stan Smith would do
@@brodyspears8290I don’t know… If you just wanted to shit on your child for a laugh, why go through this elaborate plot of playing both sides of the game and trying to dupe the police with a vpn and framing some other kid?
Very unique perspective on haters
My SiL & Aunt does shit like this. I remember being like 12,13 years old & these two grown as women are bullying a child. They kept it up til I was 24. The only reason why I ever put up with it was because of my grandparents (long story). They stalk me on all social medias. I was being told to admit myself into a mental hospital, kill myself, get on certain medications for a “manic episode” (I don’t have those), so forth & so on.
I recently gave them a giant middle finger towards both of them whenever my abusive deadbeat dad died (they were threatening me around that time so I aired out their laundry & threats to everyone we know).
I have been in therapy for 4 years & I’m just now getting into my teenage years. The trauma is there & bad.