The Bizarre Flight Which Got LOST Over The Amazon | Varig 254
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2021
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Actual Recording of the Captain’s PA - • CVR - Varig 254 - [Maj...
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CREDITS
Voice Actors
Captain - Allen Chan
First Officer and ATC - Jens (Lezvox) Bak
Music
Accident Sequence - Music: www.purple-planet.com
Analysis - Background music via www.FesliyanStudios.com
Sim Footage
Microsoft Flight Simulator 10
Boeing 737-200 and Varig Livery by Milviz
ADF Pointer from fergonez.net
#Aircrashinvestigation #Brazil #Boeing737
From 5 years of studying accidents / reading NTSB reports, I must say, this is peak pilot error - A colossal fuck up. To end up 1,000 miles away where you should be is unimaginable.
Eastern L1011 landing in the Everglades
Aeroflot being flown by a teenager into the ground.
Pinnacle 3701 CRJ hotdog crew.
@@PInk77W1 Trans-Pacific Jets Learjet 35A - Teterboro, NJ
Still, this is messed up. The pilots should have looked for the sun, and checked their compass and heading indicator. :( 27 deg vs 270 deg, an entire order of magnitude of a screw up.
A colossal screw up for sure ... by BOTH pilots! And to the root cause of this incident, what airline/aircraft uses decimal numbers for the heading?
@@Emale2000 check your numbers twice maybe.
LoL
Just add here, the copilot tried innumerous time to go back to Marabá Airport doing a 180 turn and possibly cancel the flight. The Captain however being very experienced denied any problem and did not try once to go back to Marabá Airport. Furthermore the Copilot was excluded from criminal charges from this flight leading all the charges only to the captain.
No, you're wrong. The Capt did do a 180 turn when the copilot suggested it. 270-180=090. Go to 4:00 in the video. Also, he asked for a 180 turn only because he believed they overshot Belem. Dont make up things that never happened. Both pilots were clueless idiots.
You are also wrong about the copilot not being charged criminally. THEY WERE BOTH sentenced to 4 years in prison which later was changed to community service for both of them. Dont comment on things you dont research properly.
@@nickv4073 actually this piece is kind of wrong. First officer suggested to go back to Maraba, that's why the 180°, but when they picked up a radio signal the captain decided to follow the signal instead.
If this video is the truth then the copilot never checked his paperwork for the heading of the flight and just copied the wrong heading that the pilot entered. It would have been caught before they even taxied to the runway if the co pilot had not just copied the pilot... That's worse in my opinion than hitting numbers by accident or in the wrong order
I love that you gave the complete route from beginning to finish so we know exactly the timeline in which the plane flew at. I recall how several passengers picked up on the fact that the plane was heading east due to the setting sun and brought this up to the flight attendant but none of them did anything or told the captain about it.
The voice overs are hilarious
That’s the actual CVR recording from the flight. Those are their real voices. Especially the ATC. That’s definitely real.
@@kevin6293 nope the voices are impersonations but are saying exactly what the pilots said
Ikr 😅
@@kevin6293 ahahahah i love this comment
@@BirksyChillz yeah that was sarcasm smartypants
I knew this is an established genre and everything, but for some reason I really prefer your videos. I cant find ones that are quite the same.
It strikes a balance between someone who knows what they're talking about and being able to relate to the layman audience with a really good production. Also my favourite air crash youtuber
Thanks for the support!
Yes, I've seen all the other ones...but this guys method...paints a broader picture , and the cvr voiceovers are easier to take on board ...as opposed to the sometimes garbled and haunting real recordings. 👍
I still can't believe they didn't realize the directional error with the Sun angle. I've used that ALL my life here in north Florida. We have some thick woods right up to the beach, and that's how we navigated.
That’s an understatement
I’m from Southern California, same here.
I can only suggest that the position of the sun didn't even enter their mind, because they had no reason to even think about it. They believed they were on the right course, so had no reason to verify that. I get it that "flying north" and having the sun in your windscreen near sunset should have a been a red flag, but since they were flying mostly north all day south of the equator, the sun would have been in their windscreen all day, so they probably never gave it a second thought.
Your American, your smart 😇
A friend of mine was a pilot in Columbia and he told me that for every ten minutes you fly over the rain forest, it'll take you two weeks to walk out. That is, of course, assuming you survive the two crashes- the one where your plane hits the tops of the trees, and the one where you hit the ground 100' below.
When I lived in Dublin, Ireland I used to head north to Belfast a couple of times a year. Once, when I was returning in late afternoon on the motorway heading south, I unknowingly missed the turnoff for Dublin. Just after the exit, the motorway turns west. So, as soon as I found myself driving directly into the sun, I realized my error and got off at the next exit. How these pilots could be heading dead west in the direction of the setting sun and not realize it, is beyond me.
So fortunate that they at least handled the landing well, allowing a decent number of people to survive.
The one thing I just can't comprehend is how they flew the wrong direction for over 20 minutes and no one noticed anything odd with the position of the sun.
Booze
Then they go south and do the same thing! They cleary were focused on the soccer game. A 25 cent cracker jack compass would have saved the plane.
They already had a compass on board or the heading indicator.
Cloudy ?
@@starkistuna why u gotta throw .25 cent under the bus ?
Wow! I have never seen someone actually showing their track like this! Tons of info I never knew before! Everyone else who did this crash never mention that the pilots actually identified their mistake during flight!
Sir, I of course subbed to you immediately. Please check out Fly with Magnar, another excellent tiny channel!
Thanks mate! Appreciate the support :)
Loved your video! I know more youtubers do the same thing, but you are one of the best ones I ever saw! Nice detail on the Brazilian accent for the crew, correct model for the plane and livery.
Lakken var feil. Halen var hvit og rumpa hadde en tykk blå linje. Modell 737-200 er imidlertid riktig
Thanks for this video. I've seen different versions of this crash recreated, but none of them had the map u used. It really helped in knowing where the aircraft was located. Also, none of the other versions pointed out the alternate airports you mentioned like the air force base
Exactly! All is revealed 👍
I can't believe 2 aviators could make the same mistake of not checking the initial heading after takeoff. Even more so because this was not a highly automated aircraft, and they would have had to check headings all the time on every flight, one would think?...
Check it 3 or 4 times
Just to be sure
The co-pilot noticed something was wrong many times but back then Captains had a very overpowering authorithy over the co-pilots and he was basically shut down many times. There's an interview with the co-pilot where he explains what happened and why later on he was relieved on the guilt. He also was responsible for some of the last decisions that helped them survive the landing.
I absolutely LOVE your videos. Keep up this awesome content!
Saw this crash on Mayday: Air Crash Investigation, season 14 episode 3. There were quite a few additional details here. Very interesting.
IMPRESSINGLY WELL MADE visual and verbal report of that unlikely flight‼️
If you’re a pilot
Shouldn’t you know that north east is 27 and not 270 ?
Another great and informative video!
You deserve more subscribers, this is good stuff!
thanks
Wow. The incompetence of the pilot on the direction they were going and making many 180 degree turns. The sun is a very reliable tool to use to determine direction.
Me when I read the map upside-down,
or more accurately the GPS displays screen
Are these pilots utterly fucking insane? How can you fly for an hour west when you KNOW, like you literally KNOW that the airport you're flying to is north east?
This is literally like me deciding to fly east from new york to get to los angeles. WTF
Complacency and a difficult navigation system.
Thank you for this great voice explanation i found the video proof special video of Varig 254
Great vid, what a nightmare!
This is giving me so much anxiety (like 25% in)
We're two...wild and crazy guys!!
This happens ALL THE TIME with seniors driving cars here in Florida. They’ll get totally lost and almost always end up driving into a lake, river, pond, etc. When the remaining non-GPS generation is gone, I expect this to be less frequent.
Great Video!
Very good - thanks
When you fly toward west, in the afternoon, you face the sun. Duh..!!
How could they not reference themselves to the position of the sun , as it was day time when they took off
1. Make a grave error in navigation.
2. Realize that.
3. GoTo 1. (6:30)
4. Facepalm.
This is insane
first half of the video: darn this is funny haha!
second half go the video: darn. how can this even be possible!!!!!!
Unbelievably sad; humans make mistakes and exercise poor judgment, we all do, sometimes with tragic consequences. It is difficult to understand, given that these were Brazilian nationals, presumably familiar with the route, cities and airports. One would think they would expect to see a large body of water adjacent to the Atlantic Ocean rather than a forest stretching out over the horizon at about the top of descent-something other than just jungle/forest. Mistaking a smaller river running north/south for a much larger Amazon river running west/east is troubling. Even though the Captain was flying this trip after being away from flying for some time, this was their 4th sector of the day, he had presumably successfully interpreting the change in paperwork formatting on the previous three sectors. If they were completely distracted by listening to a football match, and I do not know that they were, that would begin to make more sense to me just as the pilots of Northwest Airlines flight 188 departing San Diego California for Minneapolis Minnesota were distracted by their activities on a laptop computer and overflew their destination and out of radio contact for a very long time. Allowing themselves to be distracted makes more sense to me than just wandering off 90 degrees from the wrong direction.
How tragic. We are in the hands of experts, only good if they do not have their hands in their pockets.
This accident reminds of the situation in which people using mostly the car to go about their businesses are nowadays. If they are forced to go on foot and use classical orientation means they become completely clueless. Even in their own neighborhood. They don't even know anymore to use the Sun as a reference. Let alone the Sun and a wristwatch. No GPS and they are suddenly lost in their on streets and cities. Is hilarious and tragic in the same time.
Brazilians use two surnames, the first is the paternal surname and is the one used to refer to a person.
You are the Jim Cant swim of planes lol
I got it. Listening to Soccer makes you stupid.
No
But listening to soccer on the job does
No such thing as a simple error in aviation, it can all balloon if left unchecked!
Lol when i heard Kermit the Frog i lost it
You don’t need GPS to realize that you are heading west instead of north!
I never new Abu was also an atc officer.
Great video! Next time go on google translate, type the names of the cities and hear the pronounciation.
Thanks! I’ve received a bit of feedback on this 😊😊
You sound like Tom From Digital Foundry
But how would they know that the nearby field is near? You said confusion let them not thinking about it but it is the accurate and professional decision, that field which they don't know could be far. They followed the frequency of the airport of origin and it is not their mistake if it overlap other beakens. ATC should have airplanes on screen and guide them instead.
The most obvious one being they were flying directly into the sun setting in the west... 😱
None of this accident makes sense, how could two trained Brazilian pilots make such an obvious navigational mistake? None of it made ANY sense... until you said Brazil was playing in a World Cup Eliminator, THEN IT ALL made sense
oh my god it’s like dumb and dumber we’re flying this plane
Unbelievable 🥴
Da bears
This game is in roblox?
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I don't even care what part of the "transportation" industry you aspire to be a part of, ALL of this could have been avoided if either pilot just physically LOOKED at a map...
Think about that a moment... JUST a minute of looking at a map while they put the flight plan's data into the plane, they would have questioned WHY 0270 should point NORTH to their destination. The conversation would've included some grumbling about "stupid way to denote headings just for 4 digits when the instruments don't even register tenth's of a degree"... some blah-blah about "feedback to the company"... or "a piece of my mind about this kind of dumb sh*t"... AND they'd have reached the conclusion to fly a heading of 027 instead of 270...
Even in a car, truck, or on a damn motorcycle, I've got a fine highway system in the States where practically every highway with an even number runs East to West (more or less) and nearly every highway with an odd number runs North to South (more or less)... SO I can KNOW 81 with either be North or South bound... AND 40 runs East or West bound... BUT I STILL CHECK A DAMN MAP BEFORE I LEAVE THE HOUSE FOR A TRIP LONGER THAN 100 MILES OR SO!!!
Why??? I mean, I do KNOW that New York is North of Tennessee, where I live... I KNOW I can ride directly from as far as Wilmington, North Carolina to Los Angeles, California on I 40... give or take the construction sites and detours... I even have a GPS... Right??? I look at a map to BE SURE of where I should go, where I can go, and where I sure as hell DO NOT WANT TO GO, regardless of whatever convenience efficiency, or electronic guidance might suggest... It helps... AND there are occasions where the even/odd numbers of highways don't follow the rules... It's rare, but it DOES happen. Sometimes the State Routes are better short cuts than the Interstates, and sometimes my route is close enough to a site worth seeing that I might like the MAP to show me where a half hour diversion would make for a REALLY good day... Stops for things like hotels are also important to have in mind BEFORE you hit the road and "just go already"...
SO the bottom line is, knowing your geography is great and all, but learning to read a map and use both a map AND a basic compass ABSOLUTELY WILL save you time, heart-ache, head-ache, and anxiety in your travels... REGARDLESS of the modes of travel you choose. It's saved MY ASS on more than one occasion, and if that's true of me on a motorcycle (just avoiding the GPS sending me to a corn field in Kansas at random) then I can't understand where it wouldn't help a pilot who operates largely without a highway numbering system and a big-ass ribbon of asphalt to track on. ;o)
It would be less distracting for listeners, if the narrator learned how to pronounce the letter "H" in different situations. It is confusing, I know, because
in some contexts, the H sound is silent, while in other contexts, it is present.
Where was the Sun? Duh.
12 people lost their lives and they should have done atleast 12 years in prison
Please leave out the music. It's irritating. Otherwise a good vid
Thankfully this could never happen today... As the Amazon is now about the size of two football pitches.
What is the game name?
So you‘re telling me that planes dont have a compass or gps?
Why the FAKING voices tho?