Teardown of yet another GM 4L60E Transmission with no 3rd or 4th. What will we find??
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2021
- A friend of mine asked me if I'd look at his other Son's transmission as It failed too. No matter how man of these I do, I always seem to be surprised at what I find!!
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A HD stock build up is always welcome with a list of "Should replace as long as we are in there". Corvette servo, HD sun shell, wide band, 3-4 pistons and HD clutch build to start. Maybe a little discussion on spacer plates and check balls. Anything to address the weak points. Thanks.
Want to see
I'd like to see the build
It's out there...
Inspiring video earned my subscription definately want to see the build on this as i will be doing the same grateful to see no nonsense just gettin it done simplified version of tranny rebuild process
Excellent,..learning with all your work…
Thank you!!
Always enjoy watching the tear down and build ups
Thank You!
Keep getting it on man it's done me wonders to watch your videos thanks brother come on with your next man
Thank you! I'm glad you got something out of it!
Yeah I’m learning from you, I’m not able to catch each video. 👍 keep up the GREAT WORK SMITTY !!
I'm always up for a build video. Especially when somebody does it right.
Thanks for that!
Iick see do a built on one
There are plenty of build videos on my channel
Cox I have a 2003 Chevy avalanche 4x4 is sleeping between 3rd and 4th gear trying to figure out what it is I thank need be it to rebuild
Drill a hole in your bench,so you dont have to hold the drum
I have a hole in my bench at work, and I hate it. Everything finds that hole and falls through it, parts, oil, etc....
strong work young man!!!
Thank you!!
this is one of my top fav 4l60e vids - I lost the 3-4 also. thanks
Thanks! I appreciate it!
I had my 1995 chevy blazer 4l60e rebuilt and within a couple months the 3rd gear slipped im wondering if the builder messed up
Could have with a cross leak in the input housing, or maybe a Teflon ring got cut on reassembly...any thing is possible
Good video
Thank you!!
thanks is it to late to see the rebuild
I do believe I did a series on this one too...
Is it possible just build the input drum without going all the way can’t really have time for all that and I know you ain’t got time do it twice either but seriously can I just put in new pistons and clutches
Sure you can, but I'd rather check everything while I'm there so I don't do it twice....
im having an issue where I cannot get my output shaft snap ring on. Im starting to wonder if the gear on the shaft for the speed sensor migrated, keeping the shaft from going in far enough.. we cant compare the old snap ring to the new one, because it shot out somewhere.. im wondering if the last builder used a thinner snap ring. im also wondering if shoddy aftermarket parts were used, that affected the tolerances.. im abt 2 mm short. thanks for any help.. we took it apart, and reassembled it 3 times, so I am pretty sure we are installing everything correctly.
Sounds like there is a clearance issue that should be corrected. Or, it could be a mismatch like you mentioned of the parts that your using...
@@IrocinZ we had the large bearing on the bottom of the case above the spring cage.. we put the right bearing in and it is all good now. thanks
I have a 2000 Tahoe with the same transmission. Everything was fine when the engine threw a rod. But after sitting for a couple years it won't shift out of second. First and second are good just no 3 or 4. Any advice?
It could be either electrical or mechanical. It will take some diagnosis to find out. If I was to guess, with no check engine light, it's probably a forward sprag or the 3-4 clutch is just done. Like I said though, it will take some diagnosis.
If it was electical, where would I look? My son said he was pressure washing the truck at the car wash and when he left it would not go into 3rd or 4th. I did go in and replace the solenoids. The pan was lose and leaking. Fluid looked black and burnt smelling
You're overhauling it, Smitty. It needs a new sun gear and sun shell so it doesn't come back!
Definitely the sun shell. I've got a surplus of practically new sun gears so we'll get him fixed up either way!
@@IrocinZ Yes sir! You look like you were ready to crawl under another car today. lol
well I was worried until I found I had knocked a vacuum line off while changing spark plugs.
I don't know about those new-fangled transes but my 83 el camino needs that vac line to shift.
Yes, yes they do...
i'm up for another video
Build it man. At least my kids will keep you busy
Lmao!!
THANK YOU. PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE BUILD UP.
It's out there under Austins 4L60e on a Playlist
Great job Smitty. You never know what your gonna get when you open a trans someone already opened.
Very true...
I have to drive up to 7000 rpm or 30 mph and let it roll into gear would this be a mechanical clutch issue or electrical?
Could be both, but more than likely it's mechanical
I want to see it built
I'm sure...😆 🤣 😂
😂😂😂
After it’s built you want to see the Bill ???
@@kimberjones9968 😆 🤣 😂
I just tore down a 4l60e with everything in the input housing cooked
Seen it before...
Put it back together!
I did, in another video...or two, or three...
Really good man I wish I could get you ahold of mine my truck is about to stop pulling
I appreciate that!
Dirt doesn’t do a truck any favors. Austin keep it clean man
Very impressive . I have a 98 c5 corvette that originally was leaking . I found a 10 mm bolt in the pan . I just wanted to change the fluid and fix the leak . Replaced the filter and fluid . 10-20 miles later no 3-4 gears . Any thoughts for the problem . Generally speaking how much is a rebuild at a dealer . Everyone else around here doesn’t want the job . Ty
Our dealership policy prohibits me from rebuilding one of that age. They don't want to have to deal with a warranty issues. I can't really give you an exact cost, especially since the whole rear end has to come apart. The trans itself would probably be between 1400 on the low end and 2800 depending on current market prices and availability. That does not include remove and replace time....
As far as what I think the issue is, it probably lost a Teflon ring on the input shaft...
I called around to a ton of places around me about rebuilding mine and nobody does it on the bench anymore because of too many problems with customers. Now as far as I'm concerned, if you rebuild a transmission completely and not skip out on things, no one should have a problem. It would technically be like getting one from a dealership right? I understand the issue with customers installing themselves but seriously, there's only a handful of things they could screw up and obviously nothing inside the transmission. I mean there really is only the front seal if for some reason they took the converter off and rear seal if no transfer case, and cooler lines. I get some want you to replace the cooler and lines or hot flush if someone has a machine to do it but other than that i mean it's all on the quality of the parts and person who did it.
@@james102377 Agreed, but there are some people out there.....
What pliers are you using for the output snap ring? Thanks for the video! Learned some things.
I have a tool video out there that shows what I use on the regular
And a zpax I put in didn’t know about certain apply ring I would need would it not work at all even if I got tolerance right
If the tolerance is right, then chances are you have the right ring in there. It does tell you to check for the correct on in the instructions that comes with the Zpak.
I have a big question that will help a great deal if you can tell me the answer. “can I change out the sprag gear without removing the valve body? I have actually been running with only 1st , 2nd, & reverse for close to a year. The 4l60 I had rebuilt a couple years ago. It is my guess the sprag give way do to me coasting down hills in neutral then pulling it back in drive after getting past the bottom of the hill. I have watched your vedeo a few times. Thanks
I have not witnessed anyone being successful in doing that. The band and the way its positioned makes it impossible in my eyes...
I want you to build it for me and the rest of the fans
Thanks for the vote!!
That 3-4 clutch was, indeed, a mess!
Yes it was!
Do you have the rebuilt video?
I've had several rebuild videos, and getting ready to do another.
All I see is 3 &4 trying to shear the clutch teeth comes from heavy pedaling in either gear
That's a real possibility. He bought the truck used and its hard telling how the previous owners took care of it...lol
Yup...the usual suspects. Misassembled 3-4 clutch, missing load springs
Right??
Buy a Ridgid half inch drive gun. Beats any air impact gun I've ever used. It'll break stuff and strip stuff...lol
For the record the day I got it and brought it to work I had the shop try it out on tractor lugnuts. They didn't have time to really test it but blasted on a nut at over 400 ft lbs and took it off. I asked Ridgid for the specs and their answer was it's in the manual but it wasn't and they apologized. That was the first model which was $329 at the time. They discontinued that one and came out with a slightly smaller one but I haven't had the pleasure because that monster has done just about everything I've thrown at it and what it couldn't do I had to break off with a breaker bar and all my body weight.
The one I have at home is a Milwaukee Mid torque and it does pretty well. I have not bought the big boy but I hear it does really well. I still use my air quite a bit and with 175psi running through it, there is not much it won't take care of...lol
@@IrocinZ i think there's a air model Hellcat or something like that which is supposed to be the best out there. I looked it up a long time ago and I think it was around 250 at the time but for convenience and portability I went with that ridgid and no regrets whatsoever although for a while I think it was spraining my wrists from the torque and weight of it. I have small wrists for a man so that didn't help matters...lol my girlfriend has bigger wrists than me and half the size of me.
Lmao on the end of the comment! My Dad had bought some Rigid stuff and I've got no complaints with it either. All of it is getting better as time and technology improves.
I like to see it rebuild please
There is a whole series on this one and multiple others. Enjoy!
Why would a pump in 4l60e fit one convertor but one convertor won’t go in all way to have enough room to bolt up flywheel
You have to make sure you have the right converter for the right shaft. The 300mm won't interchange with a 298mm for one. And when installing the converter, it should drop in a total of three times. If you get two and not the third, you will destroy the pump as the last drop is when the converter engages in the pump.
I’m not sure it’s got to be pump cause I switch pumps with very same year trans and it slide right in so I’m still lost has to what the problem is unless it’s the reluctor
hey man wondering if you could help me out I have a 2011 Silverado with 4l60e I have first and second gear doesn’t catch 3rd or 4th. What could he the issues I was thinking about replacing the shift solenoids and the torque converter solenoid
More than likely, the forward sprag is broken. Either way you look at it, it'll probably have to come apart...or the 3/4 clutch is burnt up...
Hey, is the 4l60e much different from a 4l60 other than solenoids and all the electronic components
No different.
Great job!
Thanks brother!
Hey Smitty what's up yes I would like to see you Bill it
Good to know!
My God that fluid was brown I'd say the death of that transmission was lack of maintenance
Could have been the smoked clutch too...lol
Motor transmission and shit General Motors