I soon as I saw the title of this video I hit subscribe.... hadn't even watched the video yet!!!... hahahaha... I love this kinda stuff....keep these stories coming!!... cheers from Canada!!!
Love the story. Saw LA guns in 99 at Tampa ice palace ( now amalie) . Guns by far the best act. Brought my future wife and she had enough once poison came on. So we went for the exit with and we went the back way out to the loading dock where most of the construction traffic was when they put the place together. Ended up meeting most of the roadies and the band while we were on the way out. Finally got asked by security where our passes were, didn't have any. Said we could hang out for another minute or two but we were ready to leave anyway. ... Was a great memory my wife still wonders how I seem to know so many people .
George Sewitt was head of security for Kiss in late 70's, early 80's, he wasn't their road manager as he has claimed, and was unceremoniously fired by them. He took on Vinnie Vincent & later on he represented Ace Frehley & Peter Criss during their lean years in the 90's (Bad Boys Of Rock&Roll Tour '95). He caused major problems for both when they reunited with Kiss & was part of the reason Ace fell out with Gene & Paul again. He has been accused of ripping off multiple artists under his roster. And Vinnie's own band left him & took the new record deal as Slaughter, where they initially had far greater success than Invasion. Vinnie's own band were embarrassed by him & it's been documented Vinnie treated Mark Slaughter very poorly during his tenure. Ironically Slaughter are still around & they seem grateful for the few fans they have left. As you probably know Vinnie burned all his bridges in the industry & even ripped off his own few die-hard fans & supporters he has left by taking their money for pre-orders of merchandise & a box-set that has never been released. His recent appearance last weekend at the Creatures Fest 2022 (organized by an super-rich Kiss mega-fan, the only people who would still attempt to book Vinnie for performances) was bizarre & he could not find a group of musicians willing to be his supporting band. He played a ridiculous guitar solo for 40 minutes, and even when he appeared with the other ex-Kiss members later it was on his terms, playing to a backing tape & standing on a platform high above the rest. He has always been delusional & has become a joke amongst the general Kiss Army, but forgotten by the world at large. LA Guns have their own dysfunctionality with 2 versions of the group (Steve Riley & Kelly Nickels in one, Tracii Guns & Phil Lewis in another, Mick Cripps isn't involved with either) with constant mudslinging in the press. Not the most professional conduct. But I guess they are still going in some form. Interesting road story! Hope to hear more, good luck with the channel
He played a ridiculous guitar solo for 15 minutes not 40 minutes. The rest of it was letting Bruce and Ace carry War Machine Cold Gin and Deuce while Vinnie didn’t do much.
When that tour reached Cleveland in 88 it was only VVI and they got local band Breaker to open. I remember the singer of Breaker saying at the beginning "I guess LA Guns couldn't make it".
Awesome man, I love to hear these kind of stories, as a kid of the 80's (13 to 23 during the 80's decade) it great to see behind the scenes...keep on keepin on...peace
These really are great stories. Life on the road, as I used to glamorize when I was a kid, is so much different in reality apparently! Playing in a cover band with a guy who toured extensively, I always pick his brain. He said they used to watch Groundhog Day, every night on the bus, because they were living it! 😂 Anyway, great video, glad to see you stuck up for your band, that’s says a lot. Those old mag light flashlights were nasty! 😂😂 looking forward to many more tales of the road. Have a great Thanksgiving
I just finished with your latest, tour manager. Video. Man, that is great insight to being on the road, sounds very similar to throwing a back yard keg party, when you have to kick everybody out, except the people you want there. As far as the after party. But, stuff i never thought about being on the road. No sleep would be the toughest part. Peace from Stillwater, Oklahoma
Great detail Mike. Bobby Rock (VVI's drummer) has his take on this story in his book The Boy is Gonna Rock. He puts both sides pretty reasonably, and lays it out in the context of all of the tension within the VVI band, who had basically already split and were fulfilling tour commitments without communicating with each other. Vinnie & Sewitt were doing similar underhand tricks on his own band
Great story my man. Vinnie was is a one of a kind pick and treats everyone badly. LA Guns is still still one of my favorites and still deliver a great show. I don't know how you guys held it together for four days without giving Vinnie a proper beating to put him in his place! Great one man, keep the stories coming. Stay well brother.
It hard to believe that these guys opened for ACDC and there no money! Would ve great fo hear soem atories abiut that. Things were different in those days im sure
Yep! Very different. The money went out faster than it came in. AC/DC didn’t need LAG. LAG needed AC/DC! So they were laid accordingly . Thanks for watching 🙏
.......then when the 2 bands parted paths..........................l.a.guns couldnt get along with l.a. guns........................ and v.v.i. couldnt get along with v.v.i.
Going down the Before I Forget rabbit hole...Great stories. Vv is truly the most self destructive person in the industry, which speaks VOLUMES!...AND I saw L.A. Guns at the Waters Club in San Pedro (I think in '88) (opening band was unsigned band named Warrant 😲) Other than U, me, and they guys in the bands, we were the only males in that building. All I remember were females EVERYWHERE!!! Killer fucking night!!! -J.s.
@Before I Forget I met up with Warrant (with Robert) years ago and I told em about that night, that I'd never been around that much p***y under 1 roof before, or since. Jerry Dixon said I needed to lay off the caffeine 🤣🤣🤣 Bur seriously, it was the raddest show I've even been too. Amazing energy!!!!...most of my rocknroll life is West Coast based. 🤘🦇🕷 -J.s.
Hey, this is a great idea for a channel. I've not heard that kind of story before and it just adds more flavor to what was going on back then that only an Insider could tell. Just subbed.
Just started watching your stuff and I love it !! You need a movie and get the guys on it and y’all can tell the whole sex drugs and rock n roll life !!
It takes somebody special to make Gene Simmons look humble and down to earth. Vinnie Vincent accomplishes just that. When Vinnie announced in the mid-nineties that he was going to release a box set of unreleased material, there were plenty of takers. Vinnie took their money and ran. That Box set never came out. Now, when Gene Simmons released a box set called "The Vault" he actually came by and delivered the thing himself. Because he always acknowledged that if it hadn't been for the fans, he never would have gotten where he is now. Yeah, Gene Simmons DOES have an ego, but he's not hypocritical about it, in fact he can laugh about. "Damn right I'm an egomaniac and be honest aren't I the biggest egomaniac you ever saw?" How can you not love an attitude like that?
@@thefonzkiss So those clips on UA-cam from all over the world where Gene showed up with the Vault to some random guy's home are faked? Got any proof of that?
As a member of a touring glam/hair band back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (Lazarus - Demon Doll Records) I can attest to the bickering between bands and being broke. Touring is a constant juggling act, especially for an unsigned band. The overhead (sound/lighting production, crew, fuel, room(s), etc.) eats up a considerable amount of money from show to show to where a band is almost stuck out on the road just to fulfill contractual obligations. As with the recording side of the business, everybody else is making more money than the artists in most cases. We starved out on the road but we never looked and sounded better! 😂😂😂
The very first time I ever experienced what it was like to really literally be hungry was after moving to a different state to play drums in a death metal band. Having to stretch a single pack of Party Pup hotdogs (the $1.10 skinny red ones that probably cause cancer lol) into an entire week's worth of meals (no bread, no buns, no condiments) was a real eye opener. Add to a lack of any notable nutrition the long hours of rehearsal, and I guarantee you the pounds drop off. But like you said in your comment, I never looked better 😂🤘
Ronnie, it’s Jimmy McCormick. Last time I saw you we went to see Enuff Z’Nuff with Rick Schoble up in Akron. I miss those old days of playing at JB’s, Seclusions and RJ’s. Playing gigs in Cleveland in the Flats, and the Odeon, the Agora and Geneva etc… you guys were top dogs back in the day. Lazarus, Raggedy Ann & Noisy Mamma. I really miss those days . It’s great to see you are doing good. I hope you are still playing guitar.
@@careful...Icarus Dude, they primarily release ‘has been’ bands and they only exist so people can access music from lesser known hair metal bands like my former band. They aren’t in business to support any up-and-coming bands. They just put it out there.
Mark and Dana are really cool guys. This had to all be Vinny. How did you survive the 40 minute guitar solo Vinny did every night. That had to be brutal.
Oh god I couldn’t even imagine how pissed Kelly would’ve been in that moment, especially after everything else, that guy was a jerk! Great story, thanks for posting!
I wonder if the next show was supposed to be in green bay. My friends and I had tickets. We got the the venue ( Riverside ballroom) . There was a sign on the door saying the show was canceled. No explanation. I heard later that the VVI band was in town. Staying at the holiday in. But no LA Guns. I've always wondered what happened? Now I know. Thanks for sharing your story. 😊
Please share as much as you can, we in the industry can always learn! I'm into good (strange load in) scenarios. Hard to load in areas and how you made it happen!? Thank you bro!!
My Band Tuff Luck was on the Card for a show it was scheduled for Taylorville Il at Nashville North, we were supposed to be the opening band and Vinny's Band left no room for LA Guns let alone an opening Band. I thought the 2 Bands were going to get into that Night. We had talked to the members from LA Guns they were cool Vinny was a Complete D Bag all he had to do was move their Equipment back a foot and we would of made it work.
Sub. I love these stories. I’ve read all kinds of musician books. Bobby Rock (his version of this story), Sammy Hagar, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Ronnie James Dio, both books out on Van Halen, Ted Templeman, Bernie Marsden, Steve Lukather, Ace Frehley, Peter Criss, Paul Stanley, etc, etc. When’s your book coming out? I’ll definitely buy it. 🤙🏼
Is this Corky Gunn from the band Sweet Pain? They put out one album on Combat records I believe. I'll have to look . I still have the album. That guy was the road manager for L.A Guns. A NY city DJ. Worked for Combat Records. They wanted a Glam band on the roster and talked him into singing. Kelly Nickels , LA Guns fame, was in this band. Actually L.A. Guns used a song of Sweet Pains on their first self titled album. Corky Gunn had a good raspy voice. They had the connections. But the label didn't promote and push this band like they should have. I'm pretty sure this is the guy . It all adds up. If you are Corky talk about your band. If not, my mistake and I like your content . Cheers.
That's so crumby! Screwing with your stage show is so rude and disrespectful. ! It's crazy that Vinnie's crew were trying to haze LA Guns. They were blowing up in '88. I was in 10-years old, and had their cassette, and they were in all the rock magazines. I'm sure 75% of the audience were LA Guns fans!
Vinnie Vincent is like one of the worse personalities in show business back then and nowadays didn’t changed so much , honestly I used to like his work from the past but after all these sick tales from a lot of people in show business I can’t have any sympathy for him as an artist or person! Hey dude, I love your channel!
This was a funny story. I may have met you back in '88, but wouldn't expect you to remember. A buddy of mine was friendly with Tracii and was bringing him some bootleg concert videos on VHS for him to watch. This was in Council Bluffs, Iowa at a club called Fat Jaks. He and I came on the bus for a few minutes (we were both 17 and pretty pumped to be on a tour bus). I don't remember much other than that some of the guys were playing cards, which I thought was funny because I expected Led Zep levels of debauchery. Were you the TM at that time?
Thoroughly enjoyed this. I was close to LA Guns and several others and actually lived across the street from Franklin Plaza for years. You mentioned your IG page ... could you please put a link for it? I can't seem to find it. Thank you!
I have an unusual one. Went to see jackal at a club in hollywood. And who was there with like 5 chicks around him? Rick fn James. Unreal. I didn’t talk to him. But about 2 weeks later I found he died. I wish I would spoke to him.
I remember going to the Norfolk,Va show and learning that LA Guns were not on the tour. I was so disappointed but heard what happen from the opening band’s drummer. Vinnie has serious issues. Sad since he’s pretty talented in his own way.
This is PURE GOLD! I've always heard Vinnie's ego was on another level. Having another talented guitarist, in Tracii playing on the same stage, must have been more than he could bear LOL. As Gene would say "Being one myself and a self-certified A$$hole, when I tell you VV is an A$$hole, trust me - he's an A$$hole, very talented but impossible to work with".
Do NOT go thru a publisher for your book. Do it yourself, as I have done. It's waaaay better and you'll make 10x the money easily. If you don't believe in yourself and your own project/audience, no one else will. There are many other reasons. Just do it...
Funny after all these years LA Guns are still touring and creating great music Checkered Past is as good as anything LA Guns did in the early days and Vinnie is a broken man a broke man I assume he is still a man 🤣
Just let me know something: how many years ago did it happen? Everybody knows how difficult was to deal with VV at that point, but what´s the meaning of your post after 34 YEARS?
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Just found the channel. Awesome love it all
Thanks for watching!
Great story! I heard that VV Invasion were tough to get along with. One of the reasons Mark Slaughter formed his own band
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Your channel is one of the best on UA-cam!!! Thanks for sharing your wonderful memories!!! xoxo The Clarences
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@@beforeiforget1985 Welcome!!! xoxo The Clarences
I soon as I saw the title of this video I hit subscribe.... hadn't even watched the video yet!!!... hahahaha... I love this kinda stuff....keep these stories coming!!... cheers from Canada!!!
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My man, tell ALL your stories! This is great stuff. Truly
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Love the story. Saw LA guns in 99 at Tampa ice palace ( now amalie) . Guns by far the best act. Brought my future wife and she had enough once poison came on. So we went for the exit with and we went the back way out to the loading dock where most of the construction traffic was when they put the place together. Ended up meeting most of the roadies and the band while we were on the way out. Finally got asked by security where our passes were, didn't have any. Said we could hang out for another minute or two but we were ready to leave anyway. ... Was a great memory my wife still wonders how I seem to know so many people .
@Matcatgwp great story! Thanks for watching 🙏
Great story! Love hearing all of these great stories from back in the 80's.
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I knew one guy who knew him in that time frame. He said VV was never off..always unhappy, always in everyone’s face
If you’re an ass chances are you’re doomed. People don’t forget.
To gene….VV: don’t you miss me?
GG: …no…..
No surprise…you’re an ass, you lose.
Thanks for watching 🙏
George Sewitt was head of security for Kiss in late 70's, early 80's, he wasn't their road manager as he has claimed, and was unceremoniously fired by them. He took on Vinnie Vincent & later on he represented Ace Frehley & Peter Criss during their lean years in the 90's (Bad Boys Of Rock&Roll Tour '95). He caused major problems for both when they reunited with Kiss & was part of the reason Ace fell out with Gene & Paul again. He has been accused of ripping off multiple artists under his roster. And Vinnie's own band left him & took the new record deal as Slaughter, where they initially had far greater success than Invasion. Vinnie's own band were embarrassed by him & it's been documented Vinnie treated Mark Slaughter very poorly during his tenure. Ironically Slaughter are still around & they seem grateful for the few fans they have left. As you probably know Vinnie burned all his bridges in the industry & even ripped off his own few die-hard fans & supporters he has left by taking their money for pre-orders of merchandise & a box-set that has never been released. His recent appearance last weekend at the Creatures Fest 2022 (organized by an super-rich Kiss mega-fan, the only people who would still attempt to book Vinnie for performances) was bizarre & he could not find a group of musicians willing to be his supporting band. He played a ridiculous guitar solo for 40 minutes, and even when he appeared with the other ex-Kiss members later it was on his terms, playing to a backing tape & standing on a platform high above the rest. He has always been delusional & has become a joke amongst the general Kiss Army, but forgotten by the world at large. LA Guns have their own dysfunctionality with 2 versions of the group (Steve Riley & Kelly Nickels in one, Tracii Guns & Phil Lewis in another, Mick Cripps isn't involved with either) with constant mudslinging in the press. Not the most professional conduct. But I guess they are still going in some form. Interesting road story! Hope to hear more, good luck with the channel
Thank you for the additional info! And thanks for following me 🙏
He played a ridiculous guitar solo for 15 minutes not 40 minutes. The rest of it was letting Bruce and Ace carry War Machine Cold Gin and Deuce while Vinnie didn’t do much.
@@thefonzkiss I can understand the confusion--it probably SEEMED like 40 minutes!
i would definitely buy your book! keep the videos coming.
Thank you !
When that tour reached Cleveland in 88 it was only VVI and they got local band Breaker to open. I remember the singer of Breaker saying at the beginning "I guess LA Guns couldn't make it".
That would be correct! Thanks for watching 🙏
@beforeiforget1985 I did see LA Guns that year in Cleveland too, with Laaz Rockit and Dark Ages....Phantasy Theater
Awesome man, I love to hear these kind of stories, as a kid of the 80's (13 to 23 during the 80's decade) it great to see behind the scenes...keep on keepin on...peace
Thank you 🙏
Thank you for sharing. ROCK AND ROLL!!
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I know/ remember that Kelly Nickels incident 😂
These really are great stories. Life on the road, as I used to glamorize when I was a kid, is so much different in reality apparently! Playing in a cover band with a guy who toured extensively, I always pick his brain. He said they used to watch Groundhog Day, every night on the bus, because they were living it! 😂 Anyway, great video, glad to see you stuck up for your band, that’s says a lot. Those old mag light flashlights were nasty! 😂😂 looking forward to many more tales of the road. Have a great Thanksgiving
Thank you for watching. Have a good thanksgiving!
I adore your videos man
Thank you kindly 🙏
I love to hear stories like that great video!
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This is awesome love this cant wait for more stories!!
Thank you
these stories are so amazing....love hearing you peel back the curtain.
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Vinnie Vincent is from my hometown Bpt Ct
I also worked for L.A. Guns
I just finished with your latest, tour manager. Video.
Man, that is great insight to being on the road, sounds very similar to throwing a back yard keg party, when you have to kick everybody out, except the people you want there. As far as the after party. But, stuff i never thought about being on the road. No sleep would be the toughest part.
Peace from Stillwater, Oklahoma
Thank you for watching!!! 🙏
Whoa, reading this in Stillwater Ok
Great detail Mike.
Bobby Rock (VVI's drummer) has his take on this story in his book The Boy is Gonna Rock.
He puts both sides pretty reasonably, and lays it out in the context of all of the tension within the VVI band, who had basically already split and were fulfilling tour commitments without communicating with each other. Vinnie & Sewitt were doing similar underhand tricks on his own band
I have to read the Bobby Rock book. Thanks for the insight 🤘
@@beforeiforget1985 I just read it about a month ago. Its was pretty good - easy read, great info too
Great story, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!! 🙏
Great story my man. Vinnie was is a one of a kind pick and treats everyone badly. LA Guns is still still one of my favorites and still deliver a great show. I don't know how you guys held it together for four days without giving Vinnie a proper beating to put him in his place! Great one man, keep the stories coming. Stay well brother.
imagine justifying assault because someone was mean to you. Bozo! you should rename yourself 'Steven Badman'
You're such a bozo for justifying assault just because someone has a bad attitude. You should be called 'Steven Badman'
It hard to believe that these guys opened for ACDC and there no money! Would ve great fo hear soem atories abiut that. Things were different in those days im sure
Yep! Very different. The money went out faster than it came in. AC/DC didn’t need LAG. LAG needed AC/DC! So they were laid accordingly . Thanks for watching 🙏
.......then when the 2 bands parted paths..........................l.a.guns couldnt get along with l.a. guns........................ and v.v.i. couldnt get along with v.v.i.
Haha that’s great! Thanks for watching 🙏
Going down the Before I Forget rabbit hole...Great stories. Vv is truly the most self destructive person in the industry, which speaks VOLUMES!...AND I saw L.A. Guns at the Waters Club in San Pedro (I think in '88) (opening band was unsigned band named Warrant 😲) Other than U, me, and they guys in the bands, we were the only males in that building. All I remember were females EVERYWHERE!!! Killer fucking night!!! -J.s.
I remember that gig at the Water Club! And you were right ! Females outnumbered the guys 5 to 1 !
@Before I Forget I met up with Warrant (with Robert) years ago and I told em about that night, that I'd never been around that much p***y under 1 roof before, or since. Jerry Dixon said I needed to lay off the caffeine 🤣🤣🤣 Bur seriously, it was the raddest show I've even been too. Amazing energy!!!!...most of my rocknroll life is West Coast based. 🤘🦇🕷 -J.s.
Awesome!!!! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Before I Forget NO problem. Thank you for the stories and taking me back to memory lane! 🤘🦇🕷 -J.s.
Haha! Great story! Yeah Vinny Vincent is strange one that’s for sure.😅🤦🏼♂️
For sure
😅😅😅 Came to say that!
Love them L.A.Guns 💕
Great stories..
Hey, this is a great idea for a channel. I've not heard that kind of story before and it just adds more flavor to what was going on back then that only an Insider could tell. Just subbed.
Thank you
Just started watching your stuff and I love it !! You need a movie and get the guys on it and y’all can tell the whole sex drugs and rock n roll life !!
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
It takes somebody special to make Gene Simmons look humble and down to earth. Vinnie Vincent accomplishes just that. When Vinnie announced in the mid-nineties that he was going to release a box set of unreleased material, there were plenty of takers. Vinnie took their money and ran. That Box set never came out.
Now, when Gene Simmons released a box set called "The Vault" he actually came by and delivered the thing himself. Because he always acknowledged that if it hadn't been for the fans, he never would have gotten where he is now.
Yeah, Gene Simmons DOES have an ego, but he's not hypocritical about it, in fact he can laugh about. "Damn right I'm an egomaniac and be honest aren't I the biggest egomaniac you ever saw?" How can you not love an attitude like that?
Gene didn’t deliver any vaults to anyone, that was BS for the press before they even went on sale.
@@thefonzkiss So those clips on UA-cam from all over the world where Gene showed up with the Vault to some random guy's home are faked?
Got any proof of that?
So right.......😅
As a member of a touring glam/hair band back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (Lazarus - Demon Doll Records) I can attest to the bickering between bands and being broke. Touring is a constant juggling act, especially for an unsigned band. The overhead (sound/lighting production, crew, fuel, room(s), etc.) eats up a considerable amount of money from show to show to where a band is almost stuck out on the road just to fulfill contractual obligations. As with the recording side of the business, everybody else is making more money than the artists in most cases. We starved out on the road but we never looked and sounded better! 😂😂😂
Most important!! Sound and look good!
The very first time I ever experienced what it was like to really literally be hungry was after moving to a different state to play drums in a death metal band. Having to stretch a single pack of Party Pup hotdogs (the $1.10 skinny red ones that probably cause cancer lol) into an entire week's worth of meals (no bread, no buns, no condiments) was a real eye opener. Add to a lack of any notable nutrition the long hours of rehearsal, and I guarantee you the pounds drop off. But like you said in your comment, I never looked better 😂🤘
Demon Doll records? Might as well be on Perris or CMC if you wanna go nowhere.
Ronnie, it’s Jimmy McCormick. Last time I saw you we went to see Enuff Z’Nuff with Rick Schoble up in Akron. I miss those old days of playing at JB’s, Seclusions and RJ’s. Playing gigs in Cleveland in the Flats, and the Odeon, the Agora and Geneva etc… you guys were top dogs back in the day. Lazarus, Raggedy Ann & Noisy Mamma. I really miss those days . It’s great to see you are doing good. I hope you are still playing guitar.
@@careful...Icarus Dude, they primarily release ‘has been’ bands and they only exist so people can access music from lesser known hair metal bands like my former band. They aren’t in business to support any up-and-coming bands. They just put it out there.
Well... it comes to this? L.A. Guns are playing tiny clubs and Vinnie is sitting at home making money to do nothing.
At least the band handled their business instead of letting themselves be treated like ......
👍 thanks for watching
Everybody over 60 should have a "Before I forget" channel..😂
😂😂😂
L.A. GUNS Rock !!
Love them 🇺🇸
Actually Like Them Over G&R ... 🇺🇸
❤❤❤ Same!
Mark and Dana are really cool guys. This had to all be Vinny. How did you survive the 40 minute guitar solo Vinny did every night. That had to be brutal.
Brutal. Thanks for watching 🙏
Corky Gunn!!! Keep the stories coming. Hope the book happens!
Richie?!! Thanks my friend!
@@beforeiforget1985 No, Mike Pazuzu here. I get all the glamorous jobs...
@@Starzcentral hahahaha Pazuzu! Thanks my friend! Hope all is well
Oh god I couldn’t even imagine how pissed Kelly would’ve been in that moment, especially after everything else, that guy was a jerk! Great story, thanks for posting!
Thank you
Please turn the phone sideways before recording!
Any good phil lewis stories
Oh too many!
I wonder if the next show was supposed to be in green bay. My friends and I had tickets. We got the the venue ( Riverside ballroom) . There was a sign on the door saying the show was canceled. No explanation. I heard later that the VVI band was in town. Staying at the holiday in. But no LA Guns. I've always wondered what happened? Now I know. Thanks for sharing your story. 😊
Thank you for watching 🙏
Can't wait for the book 🤘🏼
Thank you
Please share as much as you can, we in the industry can always learn! I'm into good (strange load in) scenarios. Hard to load in areas and how you made it happen!? Thank you bro!!
My Band Tuff Luck was on the Card for a show it was scheduled for Taylorville Il at Nashville North, we were supposed to be the opening band and Vinny's Band left no room for LA Guns let alone an opening Band. I thought the 2 Bands were going to get into that Night. We had talked to the members from LA Guns they were cool Vinny was a Complete D Bag all he had to do was move their Equipment back a foot and we would of made it work.
Do you ever talk to any of the band ?
LA Guns? I speak to mick regularly
@@beforeiforget1985 that's cool. When is the book available?
@@scottsamu2614 available May 15. Soft cover and kindle, thank you 🙏
Sub. I love these stories. I’ve read all kinds of musician books. Bobby Rock (his version of this story), Sammy Hagar, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Ronnie James Dio, both books out on Van Halen, Ted Templeman, Bernie Marsden, Steve Lukather, Ace Frehley, Peter Criss, Paul Stanley, etc, etc.
When’s your book coming out? I’ll definitely buy it. 🤙🏼
Thank you! I’m working on getting it published.
Is this Corky Gunn from the band Sweet Pain? They put out one album on Combat records I believe. I'll have to look . I still have the album. That guy was the road manager for L.A Guns. A NY city DJ. Worked for Combat Records. They wanted a Glam band on the roster and talked him into singing. Kelly Nickels , LA Guns fame, was in this band. Actually L.A. Guns used a song of Sweet Pains on their first self titled album. Corky Gunn had a good raspy voice. They had the connections. But the label didn't promote and push this band like they should have. I'm pretty sure this is the guy . It all adds up. If you are Corky talk about your band. If not, my mistake and I like your content . Cheers.
Bump (of a different variety. Haha) in hopes of catching the author (Mike?) attention in case he missed this comment. Would love a reply 👍🏻
Interesting story. I'm unable to find you on Instagram however. Lots of Before I Forgets. None of them are you it seems.
@1985roaddog
That's so crumby! Screwing with your stage show is so rude and disrespectful. ! It's crazy that Vinnie's crew were trying to haze LA Guns. They were blowing up in '88. I was in 10-years old, and had their cassette, and they were in all the rock magazines. I'm sure 75% of the audience were LA Guns fans!
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what up brother its big fst loyd from abilene texas
Great story. Hilarious. The Invasion couldn’t handle Vinnie. Shame. Those 2 albums are classics.
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Vinnie Vincent is like one of the worse personalities in show business back then and nowadays didn’t changed so much , honestly I used to like his work from the past but after all these sick tales from a lot of people in show business I can’t have any sympathy for him as an artist or person!
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This was a funny story. I may have met you back in '88, but wouldn't expect you to remember. A buddy of mine was friendly with Tracii and was bringing him some bootleg concert videos on VHS for him to watch. This was in Council Bluffs, Iowa at a club called Fat Jaks. He and I came on the bus for a few minutes (we were both 17 and pretty pumped to be on a tour bus). I don't remember much other than that some of the guys were playing cards, which I thought was funny because I expected Led Zep levels of debauchery. Were you the TM at that time?
I worked for them from Jan 88 to Aug. 88 . Not sure what date your show was. Thanks for following my channel!
@@beforeiforget1985 I googled it. It was September 1988. Just after you left.
Did you do the gigs opening for Def Leppard?
No I left before they did those.
@@beforeiforget1985 probably was easier with Phil and Phil having history, plus women galore at those shows.
Ues Bogarts Cincinnati I was there hell yes
This is AWESOME LOL
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@@beforeiforget1985 I HAVE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME STORY, EXCEPT WITH RED JUMPSUIT APPARATUS AND HATEBREED!!!
Thoroughly enjoyed this. I was close to LA Guns and several others and actually lived across the street from Franklin Plaza for years. You mentioned your IG page ... could you please put a link for it? I can't seem to find it. Thank you!
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Great story
Any Rick James stories. Why not ask lol
I’ve got one. Nothing crazy but funny! Will try to do a video on it
I have an unusual one. Went to see jackal at a club in hollywood. And who was there with like 5 chicks around him? Rick fn James. Unreal. I didn’t talk to him. But about 2 weeks later I found he died. I wish I would spoke to him.
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Rock n roll gold
VV did 2 albums and two tours with kiss
VV is his own worst enemy. He's pissed away a slew of memories and potential gigs
"Burning Bridges" is not only a song about Vinnie, its a way of life
This guy doesn't have his name on any videos or descriptions sooooooo, who the hell is he?!?
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co headlining and vinny in the same sentence.....enough said where this story will go
I wonder who Tracii despised more: Vinnie Vincent or Richard Black?
VInnie Vincent was sure good looking though
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I remember going to the Norfolk,Va show and learning that LA Guns were not on the tour. I was so disappointed but heard what happen from the opening band’s drummer. Vinnie has serious issues. Sad since he’s pretty talented in his own way.
Do you remember who that opening band was Donald? I'm researching for a book.
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This is PURE GOLD! I've always heard Vinnie's ego was on another level. Having another talented guitarist, in Tracii playing on the same stage, must have been more than he could bear LOL. As Gene would say "Being one myself and a self-certified A$$hole, when I tell you VV is an A$$hole, trust me - he's an A$$hole, very talented but impossible to work with".
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Do NOT go thru a publisher for your book. Do it yourself, as I have done. It's waaaay better and you'll make 10x the money easily. If you don't believe in yourself and your own project/audience, no one else will. There are many other reasons. Just do it...
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Thank you. Who did you use to self publish ?
I love this shit lol
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Funny after all these years LA Guns are still touring and creating great music Checkered Past is as good as anything LA Guns did in the early days and Vinnie is a broken man a broke man I assume he is still a man 🤣
When you're a jerk like Vinnie Vincent it quickly catches up with you and then nobody want anything to do with you
Did I read the time LA Guns beaten up a guy from Vincent's crew?
Wow attacked by a bunch of girls haha
Just let me know something: how many years ago did it happen? Everybody knows how difficult was to deal with VV at that point, but what´s the meaning of your post after 34 YEARS?
Telling my view of the time touring with VV. I started this channel to get my memories down BEFORE I FORGET
His point is VV is a half woman worthless hack!
@Fabiano Lol. Not a history buff, I take it? 😄🤦🏻♂️
waaaaaaaahhhhhhhh. .....how about just for a good laugh....dummy
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