Unique Lamar Mound & Amazing Old Pics Of Huge Pyramid Mound at Ocmulgee

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
  • I show the lost Lamar Mound site near Macon, Georgia, that is semi connected to the Ocmulgee Mound site I have talked about. The only spiral mound in the ancient U.S. is found here. Then I show some pretty amazing pics of the original massive pyramid mound construction at the Ocmulgee Mound Site.
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  • @cfapps7865
    @cfapps7865  3 роки тому +7

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    Thanks to all who have sent in messages recently. Some good stuff to discuss.
    Thanks to those with recent interview requests.
    Thanks to someone special. You have rocked my world.

    • @bophadeeznutz
      @bophadeeznutz 3 роки тому

      Not sure if you’ve seen the chisca mounds in Memphis TN but there’s pretty good sized mounds there. I think it’s called Chickasaw park in Memphis but the plaque says chisca mounds. I have really neat pictures I could send you.

    • @cwf081166
      @cwf081166 3 роки тому +1

      Long ago it was reported that the main mounds and mound site at the Cartersville, Georgia are not as larger or as old as Ocmulgee, but Etowah Mound site had three times as many mounds as Ocmulgee.
      There are several smaller mounds still located on private property located about a quarter of a mile north east of the current Etowah Mound site, and there were countless numbers of mounds in between both mound sites before being destroyed.
      Most of the mounds in Etowah Mound site were taken down by the state of Georgia DOT, Bartow county roads department and local farmers to be used for road bed and for any other location in need of good, fertile fill dirt.
      There are still mound sites and rock animal effigies scattered throughout north and central Georgia.
      Also it is claimed that the oldest man made build(3500 to 4000 BCE)in North America is the little known Bilbo Mound site on the Georgia side of the Savannah River close to the Georgia coast.

    • @cfapps7865
      @cfapps7865  3 роки тому +1

      @@cwf081166I agree Etowah is impressive. I have covered Etowah and the other mounds and a lost observatory up a hill just north Etowah and the smaller mounds.

  • @lynnandj
    @lynnandj 3 роки тому +16

    We cannot thank you enough. For years we have always stopped at Ancient American historical sites while travelling in our Camper vans. We have spent hours driving around little bergs called "mound city or some such" looking for the mound/s they are named after lol...WE have learned about so many sites that we can now plan to visit more strategically, thanks to your research. So glad we found your work a couple years ago, have followed you ever since!

  • @AveryMilieu
    @AveryMilieu 3 роки тому +9

    I keep remember Book of the Hopi. Been 25 years or more since I read it, but the story went that those who were ultimately called Hopi traveled from place to place -- the reason was given that they "used up the energy" of a place and it needed to rest. Those who had no interest in moving on stayed behind, populating the area, but there were always pilgrims moving on. Serpent Mound in Ohio was one they mentioned as having built, but they circled this continent and down into Mexico several times (four? sacred number) and built towns and structures (mounds, I guess) where ever they went. I suspect there IS a connection between the Mexican spiral and this one.
    Regarding steps -- you counted 14. I'll guess two are missing. 16 is 4 times 4, sacred numbers again.
    I'll have to dig that book out of the heap in storage (I have close to a literal ton of books in that storage unit, boxed) and re-read it, I suppose.
    Anyone have a more recent experience with that book, please correct me.

  • @simon8100
    @simon8100 3 роки тому

    No doubt Chuck, you have worked harder than anyone to take in as much as you can with your AA series of videos that I have seen. I know your love & you often tell us that it's easy/you love to do it/it's not work as such. But you have compiled the most comprehensive & informative history of the Americas on such a broad spectrum. You have a wonderful questioning demeanour that makes me have a chuckle every now & then. You have in your own way given Ancient America to the rest of the world, questioned validity of dates, & shared your time so well.
    If there was an award for this endeavor it should be given to you.
    Thankyou Chuck from Australia for sharing your land, & your love of it the way you do👍

  • @thebrainreigns1858
    @thebrainreigns1858 3 роки тому +4

    The mound is lost but they are known to us because of your hard work we sincerely thank you.

    • @KB4QAA
      @KB4QAA 3 роки тому

      It isn't lost. The caretakers of the preserve know it is there. Local people know it is there or else our video maker wouldn't have any clue about it.

  • @autumnrose76
    @autumnrose76 3 роки тому +6

    They just got national status and I think that’s a big deal because apparently they can buy that other land nearby with the other mounds that haven’t been redeveloped yet. It’s been closed off forever so I’m hoping they’ll finally do something with the entire site. I don’t know the exact details though

    • @2xrpm
      @2xrpm 3 роки тому +1

      Before covid, they used to give guided hikes to the Lamar mound once or twice a year.

  • @peathead4450
    @peathead4450 3 роки тому

    Definitely wrth the humming and murmeling ;-) Interesting stuf Chuck. Thanks for sharing.

  • @apocalypse9347
    @apocalypse9347 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent video!
    What a great find!
    Thanks for sharing this.
    Peace and blessings

  • @claycountybrian5645
    @claycountybrian5645 3 роки тому +4

    Greetings from Clay County, Missouri!
    wow WOW Thanks again, Chuck ! 10 thumbs up! In Memory of Elizabeth Reed & lol Ft. lost in the woods , Mo \m/ PEACE
    yeah, tell me THAT'S not man-made @9:25 wow & Have a VERY nice day

    • @robertwest7141
      @robertwest7141 3 роки тому +1

      Holy cow...actually someone from my area and not the other side of the world. This gentleman is amazing and I have learned so much from his videos. I live in Jackson County MO...I got family in p hill...I would so much be interested in actually talking with another soul that knows what he is seeing. Have a good day brother and Blessings to your Elizabeth...that was my grandmas name on my pa's side and I never got to meet her.

    • @claycountybrian5645
      @claycountybrian5645 3 роки тому

      @@robertwest7141 Hi neighbor ! Yes, I too am learning SO much from this channel . And, Thank you, but IMofER is just my favorite Allman Bros song. My sister is an Elizabeth, but she is still very much alive. RIP to all the OTHER Elizabeths. PEACE

  • @jonathanwilliams4348
    @jonathanwilliams4348 3 роки тому

    Wonderful video, thanks so much for showing these amazing historical sites!

  • @SKETNETAICALLS
    @SKETNETAICALLS 3 роки тому +1

    Like always another badass video thanks brother!

  • @MattSyversonthePaperbackRocker
    @MattSyversonthePaperbackRocker 3 роки тому +9

    The Allmann Brothers Museum is the old house they all lived in.

    • @cfapps7865
      @cfapps7865  3 роки тому +2

      Was listening to a video of a friend doing a great cover of one of their songs just a few days ago.

    • @bassmaster1953
      @bassmaster1953 3 роки тому +1

      Known as the Big House, housed there is much memorabilia and some instruments from some in the band. The two brothers and Berry Oakley are buried at Rosehill cemetery, a place they hung out to write songs.

  • @kenycharles8600
    @kenycharles8600 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this presentation.

  • @raydaniel2490
    @raydaniel2490 10 місяців тому

    Ocmulgee is a very special site...it is under consideration for the entire area from Ocmulgee through Bond Swamp NWR to Oakey Woods to become America's next national park and the first to be co-managed by the indigenous people...the Muscogee Creek.

  • @Haraka111
    @Haraka111 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this Jewel..

  • @amonaten13
    @amonaten13 3 роки тому

    Wow. Amazing old pictures, theres nothing about those ancient steps at the park. Thank you for sharing all of this, your research is invaluable. Have you ever shared all of your Google earth placemarks as a set? As an indigenous studies student and historian I would be extremely interested in looking at all of the data you have compiled!

  • @Jayjay-hl4rk
    @Jayjay-hl4rk 3 роки тому

    Cool video, I always learn something from what you show. I imagine the spiral mound would have been used for a specific divination ritual

  • @robstone6234
    @robstone6234 3 роки тому

    Your video are cool. I thank you.

  • @joesevnson5036
    @joesevnson5036 3 роки тому

    Once again, it is the Vikings of Vinland. The Norse made and used Step or spiral mounds for their Thing. The Thing was their assembly. These mounds are found across the North Atlantic. As a matter of fact, all of our mounds have their counterpart in Northern Europe.

    • @joesevnson5036
      @joesevnson5036 3 роки тому +1

      @markstanleywinemaking Yes. They seemed to be more sporadic here in the States, but there is still more than one e.g Battle Mound in Arkansas. There was actually another one called the Great Temple Mound only a few miles from Lamar. Georgia is very interesting with the "Hitchiti" Indians. They found cast silver brooches and much more - Vinlanders. Regardless, These stepped or terraced Mounds are found on Orkney etc. The best one still preserved is Tynwald Hill on the Isle of Man. It is rather easy to follow their migration across the North Atlantic to Vinland - once we take the blinders off. Were you on Jutland in Denmark? Jutland is loaded with ancient history. You are a lucky man. I would love to have seen a few in Scandinavia in person. Best regards.

  • @dr.froghopper6711
    @dr.froghopper6711 3 роки тому

    Cool!

  • @aishanoor7321
    @aishanoor7321 3 роки тому

    Watched your vid on detroit lost mound . . A very good video.. sence the emotion at the end! Keep up good work professor 👍

  • @jamiephillips887
    @jamiephillips887 3 роки тому

    Have you looked at the topography of Vincennes Indiana? Many undetected mounds. Look on the hilll toos.

  • @malcolmclark2887
    @malcolmclark2887 3 роки тому

    The circular stepping mound, might be for growing potatoes, as they grow on different elevations...interesting ergonomic concept to harvesting, and planting.

  • @jarmyvicious
    @jarmyvicious 3 роки тому +1

    Perhaps one day in the far distant future the Allman Brothers Museum will be unearthed and some form of media will have been preserved so their music might be heard... May they be delighted with those groovy sounds and dueling guitars!

    • @iandalziel7405
      @iandalziel7405 3 роки тому

      Spend 10 minutes with the Boys back in 1979 - taking _Jessica_ for a walk...
      turn it up, take a load off, close your eyes, let the music do its thing...
      ua-cam.com/video/fJ5yeaf3RaU/v-deo.html

  • @christianbuczko1481
    @christianbuczko1481 3 роки тому +4

    I think there must have been contact between north and south american peoples. Alot of those sites in the north remind me of those in the south but simpler in construction.

    • @cfapps7865
      @cfapps7865  3 роки тому

      The northern branch of people who lived in Mexico or Mesoamerica.. Pretty clear to me.

  • @kyleboettcher1276
    @kyleboettcher1276 3 роки тому +4

    Do you think there could be hollow chambers left in any mounds that have not been entered?

    • @KB4QAA
      @KB4QAA 3 роки тому

      None of the mounds presented so far have chambers.

    • @cfapps7865
      @cfapps7865  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, I have shown some. Not like ones you see in Egypt. But burial chambers.

  • @sharon1688
    @sharon1688 3 роки тому

    Did you ever research the ETOWAH Indian mounds in north Georgia? I grew up near there. Interesting site.

  • @thequietone9785
    @thequietone9785 3 роки тому

    Teuchitlan is not an Olmec construction. It is from the Protoclassic period in West Mexico (Jalisco state) and dates to approximately 100 BCE-250 CE. It's distinctive form was possibly used by ritual dancers or performers. So, the Lamar site spiral shaped mound may also have been used similarly. Interestingly, ancient West Mexican peoples were in contact with peoples in what is today the American southwest, so maybe the form of this spiral mound, like other Temple mounds in the Southeast U.S. , was indirectly influenced by the Teuchitlan complex via the ancients who once occupied our southwestern region?

  • @lonestar6712
    @lonestar6712 3 роки тому

    Please check out the site by pocahontas state park off of belcherwood road in Virginia. It could either be a trash mound or a Native American mound. Its on private property with a old house on the property. There are no records I could find on it being neither. Either way its pretty anomalous for being either undocumented next to a state park called Pocahontas state park.

  • @american7169
    @american7169 3 роки тому

    All mounds seem to be in flat terrain. Lookout points maybe, also used in ceremonies, food storage, and status symbols. Bigger the mound, bigger the tribe.

  • @SKETNETAICALLS
    @SKETNETAICALLS 3 роки тому +1

    I'm in Brunswick Georgia have any videos near around me??

  • @beentheredonethat5495
    @beentheredonethat5495 3 роки тому

    WOW

  • @nickyannajones
    @nickyannajones 3 роки тому

    The museum there used to have a giant skeleton on display that they found there. The few artefacts that iveseen look Mayan

  • @ShortbusMooner
    @ShortbusMooner 3 роки тому +2

    Would be interesting to see it excavated now..

  • @jennyhohmann4384
    @jennyhohmann4384 3 роки тому +1

    Spirals represent star gates.

  • @murrayf2890
    @murrayf2890 3 роки тому

    It really boggles the mind thinking how these people lived then fast forward a few centuries to a more wandering type of native population. I’m no expert that’s for sure but it makes a person wonder why things changed so much

    • @johnjammer3912
      @johnjammer3912 3 роки тому

      Seems like they got a plague followed by invading army’s followed by slavery followed by mass incarceration followed by corona !

  • @beckybrockman8658
    @beckybrockman8658 3 роки тому

    Could it be that the mound builders constructed their areas in and from an impact area? When I look at your map with the blue pin send it to me it looks like you’re marking all the spots that could’ve been ejecta

  • @EclecticHillbilly
    @EclecticHillbilly 3 роки тому

    Interesting video. Ocmulgee is pronounced with a hard "g"

  • @Alanoffer
    @Alanoffer 3 роки тому +1

    I have no problem with the allman brothers , they were one of the usas really great band . But the incredible history that could be taught to kids about the country they live in right on the doorstep of the museum .

  • @steverigby2406
    @steverigby2406 3 роки тому

    Why was it all covered over? Surely there is more to learn from these sites?

  • @beentheredonethat5495
    @beentheredonethat5495 3 роки тому

    I think we'd be blown away if we knew the truth about North American ancient history

  • @raichuraichu7632
    @raichuraichu7632 3 роки тому

    Yo that burial looked like the person was tall as hell but I cant tell if it's just an angle or what but to me it looked quite big human not like an giant but like 7ft tall or something. Idk not sure tho

  • @keding9159
    @keding9159 3 роки тому +3

    Looks like the built the road right through the middle. There is build up right across the road.

    • @bwilliams3227
      @bwilliams3227 3 роки тому

      I beleive they built a railroad thru the mound back in the 1800’s to bring tourists from atlanta. Thats where the road is now

  • @kenney0313
    @kenney0313 3 роки тому

    The Olmecs came to this part of the Americas long ago. They and the Iroquois destroyed a Missouri culture that was demanding tribute for people I traveling the rivers they lived by. It's said they Powhatan tribe are descendants of the Iroquois & Olmec, and most tribes throughout the Americas share the same base post-flood origins.

  • @johnmcook1
    @johnmcook1 3 роки тому

    It must have been amazing in its day as all of them. Oh if only one could jump in a delorian and take ride back in time.

  • @jacksprat7087
    @jacksprat7087 3 роки тому

    Oak-mul-gie. My hometown was Okmulgee Okla. which was the name sake of Ocmulgee. The gee is pronounced as gie.

    • @0harris0
      @0harris0 3 роки тому

      gee and gie sound the same?

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly 3 роки тому +1

      @@0harris0 In Georgia, it's pronounced with a hard "g".

  • @deepthinker3121
    @deepthinker3121 3 роки тому

    Hi,
    you once asked about interesting channels addressing ancient puzzles.
    So I just want to add one to your list --> Ancient History Criticism

  • @Cuzoned
    @Cuzoned 3 роки тому

    What is the reason for all the secrecy and disinterest with regard to the mounds? Covering up that there were people there before the settlers or what?

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly 3 роки тому

      It could be something as simple as the landowner doesn't want people all over their land.

  • @t-lanceartist1919
    @t-lanceartist1919 3 роки тому +1

    I would like for you to look at something I found. How can I send you a picture?

  • @jerrytunes
    @jerrytunes Рік тому

    Hi. Thank you for your video.
    I grew up 30 mins north of Macon and saw Ocmulgee as a kid. I have a video of the inside of the Lodge @ Ocmulgee from a few years ago. ua-cam.com/video/p39wVUJSxD4/v-deo.html
    My mother told me that years ago when they built the mound over the ceremonial floor, that one could walk on the ancient hardened clay that is now sealed off behind glass.
    I will make a few comments:
    1) locals call it Ocmulgee with the “guh” sound not “jee”. I did read the Oklahoma comment, and Ive since escaped to Wisconsin, land of effigy mounds!!
    2) Part of the Mounds were cut off to make room for the railroad tracks that went through that area. :(
    3) I would not say the Ocmulgee Park does not care about the Lamar mounds, it’s that they have not owned the land to make it accessible to the public. Ocmulgee was originally excavated as a project for the WPS which made it accessible, but whatever decisions made then didn’t include the other mounds sadly.
    I have personally been to the Lamar site, and it required snake boots, ranger guide, and an off-road vehicle on a dirt road that goes under the interstate by the river and is subject to flooding.
    I too hope one day it will be included and accessible. Unfortunately I do not live in the area to volunteer with the park to help maintain the mounds.

  • @danielfrancisco81
    @danielfrancisco81 3 роки тому

    That looks like a mix of cultures native American influence combined with south American influence.

    • @LOUDPACG
      @LOUDPACG 3 роки тому

      Looks like African culture..

  • @cindywilliamson1044
    @cindywilliamson1044 3 роки тому

    Palm of hand.an fingers

  • @MylesEFlynn
    @MylesEFlynn 3 роки тому +1

    My guess on the spiral mound is that they used a majority of women workers and they wouldn't be able to walk straight up the hill, also it may be unfinished? Perhaps more were built like this but were "finished" and smoothed over to eliminate the spiral?

    • @KB4QAA
      @KB4QAA 3 роки тому

      More likely "Ritual".

    • @MylesEFlynn
      @MylesEFlynn 3 роки тому

      Pelican1984 It has been proposed as the method of construction of Egyptian pyramids.

    • @KB4QAA
      @KB4QAA 3 роки тому

      @@MylesEFlynn And jet airliners are built with rivet guns and epoxy adhesives. What is the relevance? :)

  • @erikcarlson1562
    @erikcarlson1562 3 роки тому

    Just found you... is there evidence that says these predate Native American Indians? That skeleton had 11 logs side by side which would make that skeleton close to 9 feet tall...

  • @LOUDPACG
    @LOUDPACG 3 роки тому +1

    Indian mounds??Where are the Indians??That entire area is African American..Those are Native(African American)mounds..

  • @KB4QAA
    @KB4QAA 3 роки тому +1

    9:47 *The mound IS being conserved.* It has stable soil and trees over it, and people do not have access to erode, damage or dig into the mound. Archeologists don't dig every site just because it is there. They can be dug only once. Technology advances, and sites are saved for future scientists to have untouched history to reveal. *Lighten up on the insinuation* of "Uncaring" caretakers, who are "Hiding" sites from the public. [Sentence Edited to be more polite.]

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 3 роки тому +1

      You wouldn't happen to work for the Smithsonian would ya?

    • @iandalziel7405
      @iandalziel7405 3 роки тому +1

      Bridge building isn't in your repertoire I take it?

    • @KB4QAA
      @KB4QAA 3 роки тому +1

      @@iandalziel7405 My specialty is mound preservation! ;)

  • @westho7314
    @westho7314 3 роки тому

    1000's of videos could be made about ancient america and the surface would be barely scratched, The eurocentric pioneers and settlers obviously had little interest & saw no real value or reverence for native history, culture, diversity and especially knowledge of the enviroment in which they existed, and we still live,,. As the treatment, desecration and lack of respect for the living spaces of ancestral cultures who upon european contact and up until present day has shown us the disregard and ignorance over and over again. Arrowhead collectors and market value and rarity of their finds are about as deep as a majority of the public interest in general goes. Yet the other lithic tools used in life, common daily use items found are discarded as valueless or thought of as crude tools, mishappened geoliths, odd shaped rocks, or non symmetrical mistakes, pre-forms and blanks intended for future projectile points or trade items.. This ignorance is an inherently abundant trait in this pioneer collector & the archeologists mindsets alike.The advent of projectile points in humanities history the world over is a recent development & when considering how long we have existed using tools before we depleted the natural abundance of wildlife after creating the now natural instinctual fear of humans by wild animals, and in doing so humans needed to extend their range through tool evolution with spears, atlatls, bow/arrow and then of coarse guns (which took out the whole buffalo population of millions to near extinction in under a decade thanks to the repeating rifle). Arrowheads, spear heads, darts and bird points ect were and still are are about as common as bullets and bullet shells in areas that have been occupied, hunted or fought over for thousands of years. Surface finds, plowed fields, stream, creek and ditch finds have produced an incredible amount of projectile points in private collections alone, not to speak of museums & their warehouses, Though not as common to find now on the surface as they were in grandpa's time.. Hobby collectors / head hunters now days are digging and sifting down many feet through many occupation levels for their prized quarry which shows just how much more there actually is & was, suggesting the longevity of cultures and density mass of these widespread populations through out the americas, going back for many 1000's of years beyond paleo and pre paleo, a depth of time hard to accept & realize for many.. The projectile point was invented out of necessity. It baffles me that archeologists are so hung up on pin pointing the entry dates of the "first americans" using clovis & other points as standard time markers for their academic beginnings.All the while arrow head collectors, ignoring the vast amount of speciality tools found and discarded because of the lack of eye candy appeal, tools that served the original makers well for thousands of years before lithic aerodynamics entered the picture.

  • @oiudatropen9548
    @oiudatropen9548 3 роки тому

    "very unique" "extremely unique" geeze, come on. Either it's unique or it's not. Unique means one of a kind.

    • @heathermcd12
      @heathermcd12 3 роки тому

      Nothing is ever complete until the grammar police show up.