Quick point, (which is me being pedantic- sorry) the thermal conductivity of gold isn't the reason for its use in the engine bay. It would be illogical to assist heat transmission into the composite structure. It's the reflectivity that McLaren employed gold for. That way, all the heat stays within the engine bay (specifically in the ambient air) to be swiftly replaced by cold air using fans and ducts, rejecting the hot air before it can radiate into the bodywork. Clever, but total overkill using gold leaf!
I noticed the 'aluminum foil' insulation at 7:23 as well, for keeping heat inside the engine bay and away from the reinforced plastic/carbon fiber, I guess.
I used to live near Herb Chambers (owns a big chain of car dealerships in New England) , he recently sold his F1 but around 2013 I'm pretty sure I saw him driving his on the road lol. Not too often you see a McLaren F1 in the wild.
Small correction. Honda was willing to be involved but did not want to develop anything bigger than a v8. To reach the power figures that were the benchmark. They would have had to resort to incorporating forced induction, which Murray was not wont to do.
Well, in 1966 Ferrari made a mid-engined "road car" called the 365P Berlinetta Speciale that had the same three seat arrangement. Not a production car, but the claim was "road car"...
The silver f1 high downforce car wearing nz plate ended up in a ditch on the anniversary run a while back. Amazing car. My twin brother sent me a photo at his work carpark of all these mclarens, where they kicked off the run and he didn't realize that one car was worth more than the other 20 combined haha.
Although under the same corporate umbrella, McLaren Cars (the road car company) operates entirely independently of the racing team company. They are not the same bunch.
As a gen X participant, not by choice, and a fan of Jay Leno and his contribution to saving pieces of automotive history it's my opinion that if anyone deserves this car it's Jay. How many other people would give a total stranger, or two, a ride in one of these? Then again I got a ride in a brand new Testarossa when the owner caught me and a friend sticking our heads through the open windows as it sat running while the owner was picking up dry cleaning which brings me to a suggestion, car noise as these cars play music.
Yeah I remember reading that on Wikipedia (french page). All high performance street legal cars were called back then "supercar". The first time the term "hypercar" was used to classify a street legal car, it was related to the McLaren F1. It remained for 10 years the fastest legal car on earth until the coming of Bugatti Veyron 16.4. Also up to this it is the fasted naturally aspired car in the world (just imagine after 30 years).
I saw this in a magazine in 1994. It was waw, so different and so much better in every aspect that anything before (for a street car). Years later I won a simracing GT1 championship with McLaren GTR long tail.
12:10 - "If you have seven figures to spend..." then you'll _still_ be disappointed. With a minimum asking price around ten million quid, you'd better have *eight* figures to spend. 😬
This is surely common knowledge among race nerds, but I just learned that the GT1 and GT2 class cars were allowed bigger fuel tanks the higher WSC and P2 classes (100 litres vs. 80). Which goes a long way towards explaining how the lower class cars like the F1 GTR could win outright victories against LM prototype cars in an endurance race. I had been wondering about how that was possible!
Came from for discord, stayed for the first minute because gt music, but by the end the high quality production got me here, a lot better then the crap I’m putting out
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Hey look, I just checked your channel and you've only got 1 video up! And (minus the microwave), it wasn't that bad lol. If you enjoy it, and you keep doing it, it will naturally just get better
Love the intro to the GTR segment, "this car was an embarrassment...... To everyone who wasn't McLaren"! That highlights the F1 as a whole - it was never designed with racing in mind, just to be the best road car ever built, and 30-odd years on it is still the fastest naturally-aspirated production car in the world. And the GTR was still at heart the standard car! The story goes that when Porsche were developing the 911 GT1, they got hold of an F1, stripped it down and were horrified at how far behind their peak racing tech was compared to the road-going F1! That also distinguishes the F1 from other GT1 cars that were built in response to its excellence - F1 is a road car that was taken racing, other GT1s were developed as race cars first then adapted for production to meet the homologation rules, and still took their time to reel in the F1!
Updated I don't know, but... I've heard that McLaren keep some old 90's PC compatibles in order to collect datas from these modems (not sure it's true...)
Back then supercars looked good, now they look like a hard candy car that had been sucked on for hours. It is better for aerodynamics, but they don't arouse me any more. Most owners will never put it to the limit, it doesn't matter if it is slower in corners or less efficient, it is mainly used for bragging, so it should look the part.
Same here. I'd prefer one actually. Those LS6/LS7's are amazingly frugal when not giving it wide open throttle and you'd still have "some" cash left after the purchase...
$10mil for an F1?? Maybe if its been burned after a bad flood. One was sold for £15mil several years ago which had 90,000+miles and 2 large insurance claims for extensive damage.. I think rowen atkinson is still sad about selling it.
Ultima Sports (the company's current guise) was founded in 1992 ,yes. Lee Noble and his magicians had been building Ultima chassis for racing purposes for years before that. McLaren used two Ultima chassis (no's 12 and 13) as test beds for the F1 during development. One (chassis 13) was used to test the the BMW V12, ancillaries, exhaust system and cooling. The other (chassis 12), was used to test the new gearbox, central driving position and carbon brakes, and was mated to a Chevy V8 to try and simulate the torque of the BMW V12. Unfortunately both examples were destroyed afterwards. I also heard they were given the nicknames Albert and Edward, but I could be wrong. I hope that's cleared everything up. Great videos BTW 👍
@@glynmarley6559 I can vouch for your information here. There's a really good documentary out there on the history of Ultima cars, which began as a couple of very cometitive club racers playing one-upmanship with each other in the 1960's, to the dismay of all other race entrants! The documentary corroborates your story that McLaren bought two chassis' from Ultima for development and testing and that they were both broken up afterwards. I'd call that criminal damage!
@@robair67 it's good to know that I wasn't just going on a "Grandpa Simpson" style yarn there. Thanks for the info. Do you have any links for this documentary? I would definitely like to see it. Cheers. @countreefus , how about a feature on Ultima too?
The rolling laboratory of what was to come was the 959...every single car on the planet today has some of the 959 DNA in it, and Porsche made a fortune in licensing the technology to the rest of the world. - McLaren F1...not so much.
@@tumslucks9781 Your DREAM car came and went like a fart in the wind...and the 911(with the 959 being a variant of) is STILL the benchmark sports car in the world. - But keep dreaming...
Sorry but by any objective measure, there are three VERY important words missing not just from the title of this piece but also from the audio. Those words are, "In my opinion". Just for a start, the narrator moans about everything since needing forced induction. What he fails to mention however, is the fact that the emissions regs are much tighter now than when the F1 was built and so are the crash/design regs. Without those same restrictions I suspect that the motoring landscape would be very different. Great car? Yes. Best ever, maybe - please set down your objective criteria when you make your argument............I certainly wouldn't choose one as either my forever car or even one in my 'billionaires garage'.
Once i see Mclaren F1s in race tracks and drag strips being raced by privateers then maybe i'd think it is a great car (not even the greatest), but it really is just a rich person's showpiece or garage queen. Some rich people daily drive it and bring it to coffee shops, but none of them are winning drag races or time attacks. The Porsche 911 (which i don't even like) has more street cred and racing accolades than this overpriced showpiece. Not to mention Evo, Supra, GTR, Huracans, etc. which are raced by factory teams and privateers alike and can also be seen on drag strips and half mile races. Now those are great cars modded and driven by passionate enthusiasts.
How did it compare to cars(say F50, XJ220) of it's era and a decade later(Enzo, Carrera GT) , when it raced on tracks and drag strip? Obviously, when compared to modern supercars it would likely lose due to older technology?
... Except a lot do still get track time, especially the GTRs. The fact that you brought up drag strips for cars like this also means either you're a teenager with no concept of these types of vehicles, or an uninformed adult.
@@francozallo2118 Well I don't think it is fair to compare GTRs to road going supercars unless it is converted for road use. Are you talking about road going GTRS or GTRs on slick tires?
I definitely wouldn’t call this the greatest car ever made. Try giving it to some everyday person see how long it runs without its ridiculous upkeep and maintenance to keep it running 🤣
Lining the engine bay with gold was a stupid flex and went against all the other engineering they did to make it have great performance. Copper would of been far cheaper and is much lighter and way better thermal conductivity. This just is another point of why it’s absolutely not the greatest car ever made.
Quick point, (which is me being pedantic- sorry) the thermal conductivity of gold isn't the reason for its use in the engine bay. It would be illogical to assist heat transmission into the composite structure. It's the reflectivity that McLaren employed gold for. That way, all the heat stays within the engine bay (specifically in the ambient air) to be swiftly replaced by cold air using fans and ducts, rejecting the hot air before it can radiate into the bodywork. Clever, but total overkill using gold leaf!
Just one of the many factual errors in this video.
Really a abd, boring presentation. Like listening to a metronome.
I noticed the 'aluminum foil' insulation at 7:23 as well, for keeping heat inside the engine bay and away from the reinforced plastic/carbon fiber, I guess.
Gold leaf didnt add much to the costs and it works the best. That was the whole point of the car, to be the best regardless of price.
Plus silver is the #1 heat conductor.
And they got it done with only 15g of gold, as it can be made into extremely thin sheets. So it also met the light weight criteria
Ive been lucky enough to see an F1 up close more than once. God, it never gets old
5:13 the Daihatsu Midget II is a fine example of another centre seat 90's super car
I guess that you can count in the Messerschmidt kabinenroller too?
love this car. all the 1996 JGTC coverage is terrifying to watch knowing a schumacher was behind the wheel of one
The Gran Turismo Music strikes again
the music from these games are fkn awesome so great choice. Im really loving the content so far keep it up!
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Modern supercars are technically better, of course, but considering the time the F1 was made, it cannot be beaten. An absolute legend.
9:51 I knew there had to be a twist there
and there was. Keep those vids up!
The gold is not for conducting the heat like a heatsink, it's for "insulation" reflecting the heat (infra radiation) away, like on spacecraft .
Watched all you're videos keep up it very enjoyable! Keen to see the channel grow
Thanks! Plenty more to come!
I used to live near Herb Chambers (owns a big chain of car dealerships in New England) , he recently sold his F1 but around 2013 I'm pretty sure I saw him driving his on the road lol. Not too often you see a McLaren F1 in the wild.
Awesome video. Great car. Keep up the good work.
Small correction. Honda was willing to be involved but did not want to develop anything bigger than a v8. To reach the power figures that were the benchmark. They would have had to resort to incorporating forced induction, which Murray was not wont to do.
Well, in 1966 Ferrari made a mid-engined "road car" called the 365P Berlinetta Speciale that had the same three seat arrangement. Not a production car, but the claim was "road car"...
Thank you for this video! Great car from a great decade!
ive seen mclaren in usa same with my sister even seen a f40 screaming down the road ull hear it befor see it
Gordon Murray's masterpiece of design and engineering. It'll always be the best McLaren ever made, IMO.
The silver f1 high downforce car wearing nz plate ended up in a ditch on the anniversary run a while back. Amazing car. My twin brother sent me a photo at his work carpark of all these mclarens, where they kicked off the run and he didn't realize that one car was worth more than the other 20 combined haha.
McLaren isn't a luxury car maker.... It's a racing team that sometimes makes road cars
Although under the same corporate umbrella, McLaren Cars (the road car company) operates entirely independently of the racing team company. They are not the same bunch.
This or F40 is GOAT, F40 came out when I was 9 and always believe GOAT has to be a Italian car (Ferrari).
F1 NA over 230mph is astonishing
This is like Top Gear without Jeremy Clarkson and I love it.
did he punched you too?
Not really
Just bc of the british accent 💀🤣
🤣 can,t be all bad then, NO BIG DUMB shaved ape 🤣🤣
A closet racist? 😂
Would love to see a proper video on the bmw m5 lineage. God Bless from South Africa.
Sat in one as a child...at Christmas time in the showroom in London..with an inflatable Father Christmas in one of the other seats 😄
As a gen X participant, not by choice, and a fan of Jay Leno and his contribution to saving pieces of automotive history it's my opinion that if anyone deserves this car it's Jay. How many other people would give a total stranger, or two, a ride in one of these? Then again I got a ride in a brand new Testarossa when the owner caught me and a friend sticking our heads through the open windows as it sat running while the owner was picking up dry cleaning which brings me to a suggestion, car noise as these cars play music.
that line of landrovers at 8:13
nice vid bro, thats my favourite car aswell xD
Thanks! Its a lot of people's favourite car for sure
I dont know if its exactly a correction but the F1 is in fact considered the first Hypercar
Not really.
Yeah I remember reading that on Wikipedia (french page). All high performance street legal cars were called back then "supercar".
The first time the term "hypercar" was used to classify a street legal car, it was related to the McLaren F1.
It remained for 10 years the fastest legal car on earth until the coming of Bugatti Veyron 16.4.
Also up to this it is the fasted naturally aspired car in the world (just imagine after 30 years).
@@arkeusalexander9054 Wikipedia is not always factually correct.
@@traviswalker8933 I know but at least i have a source.
But..
Your source : Trust me bro.
@@arkeusalexander9054 your source itself states it should not be trusted for facts so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
I saw this in a magazine in 1994. It was waw, so different and so much better in every aspect that anything before (for a street car). Years later I won a simracing GT1 championship with McLaren GTR long tail.
i love that you use Gran Turismo Music in the background in you Videos :D
12:10 - "If you have seven figures to spend..." then you'll _still_ be disappointed. With a minimum asking price around ten million quid, you'd better have *eight* figures to spend. 😬
I love the Gran Turismo music 😄
This is surely common knowledge among race nerds, but I just learned that the GT1 and GT2 class cars were allowed bigger fuel tanks the higher WSC and P2 classes (100 litres vs. 80). Which goes a long way towards explaining how the lower class cars like the F1 GTR could win outright victories against LM prototype cars in an endurance race.
I had been wondering about how that was possible!
Simply the greatest car ever made. Awesome video.
Thanks!
Came from for discord, stayed for the first minute because gt music, but by the end the high quality production got me here, a lot better then the crap I’m putting out
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Hey look, I just checked your channel and you've only got 1 video up! And (minus the microwave), it wasn't that bad lol. If you enjoy it, and you keep doing it, it will naturally just get better
countreefus thanks for your kind words, and I’ve moved further away from the microwave
Still the fastest naturally aspirated car in the world. And an absolute beauty.
I was like 16 when this car came out I had my Motor Trend and Car and driver magazines and I was blown away with the seat in the middle
Love the intro to the GTR segment, "this car was an embarrassment...... To everyone who wasn't McLaren"! That highlights the F1 as a whole - it was never designed with racing in mind, just to be the best road car ever built, and 30-odd years on it is still the fastest naturally-aspirated production car in the world. And the GTR was still at heart the standard car! The story goes that when Porsche were developing the 911 GT1, they got hold of an F1, stripped it down and were horrified at how far behind their peak racing tech was compared to the road-going F1! That also distinguishes the F1 from other GT1 cars that were built in response to its excellence - F1 is a road car that was taken racing, other GT1s were developed as race cars first then adapted for production to meet the homologation rules, and still took their time to reel in the F1!
Lovely to see Donnington in all its glory & splendour
You are massively underrated
love the 80's music!
Only thing that compares is the Mcmutry Speirling, that thing changes EVERYTHING!
theese videos are so fking cool man
I always wondered why there are covers on top of the headlights.
I always thought it was to make a headlight bulb change not too difficult... Might be wrong though
@@Fayheurblode I thought those are popup headlights like on the Jaguar XJR-15 but I haven't seen any indication to support this claim.
That wireless modem on the f1 came from factory. I hope its been updated since..
Updated I don't know, but... I've heard that McLaren keep some old 90's PC compatibles in order to collect datas from these modems (not sure it's true...)
And now we're just waiting for the release and review of the GMA T50
I saw one parked in Paris once
Maybe a mention of Bruce McClaren?
This channel would be perfection if videos had actual engine sounds
Mr been traded his mini in for one of these. Now he's known as James may.
12:14 it's an 8 figure car not 7 😊😊
My dad had the 31st mclaren f1 his yt channel is Dan Kennedy mclaren f1 also it was the first hyper car that’s y he bought it
0:18 Bruh the dude up the road from me owns a 720S
Gran Turismo 2 tracks? nice.
Back then supercars looked good, now they look like a hard candy car that had been sucked on for hours. It is better for aerodynamics, but they don't arouse me any more.
Most owners will never put it to the limit, it doesn't matter if it is slower in corners or less efficient, it is mainly used for bragging, so it should look the part.
i would be happy with a ultima gtr
Same here. I'd prefer one actually. Those LS6/LS7's are amazingly frugal when not giving it wide open throttle and you'd still have "some" cash left after the purchase...
I'm curious to know if McLaren bills the owners for the repairs, or if it works like Ferrari's service plan.
The F1 is what the XJ220 should have been
If i could own any car in the world it would be this
And that’s why he’s the GOAT, THE GOAT
That was in fact a nice car
$10mil for an F1?? Maybe if its been burned after a bad flood. One was sold for £15mil several years ago which had 90,000+miles and 2 large insurance claims for extensive damage.. I think rowen atkinson is still sad about selling it.
Butterfly doors? We're they ever called that?
Not really... But I'm not sure there's a specific name for the F1's doors (half way between butterfly doors and lambo doors)
Truly a 7 figure car for an 8 figure price tag.
Imagine if Mclaren put in a Honda V12 there
Now, we would be making jokes on v-tech mclaren lmao
Obviously if the F1 had been given the gift of v-tech technology, it would have been able to go at least 300mph
Apparently the F1 was also based on the Ultima Cars
I doubt it because Ultima was founded the same year that F1's started being delivered to customers - 1992.
Ultima Sports (the company's current guise) was founded in 1992 ,yes.
Lee Noble and his magicians had been building Ultima chassis for racing purposes for years before that.
McLaren used two Ultima chassis (no's 12 and 13) as test beds for the F1 during development.
One (chassis 13) was used to test the the BMW V12, ancillaries, exhaust system and cooling. The other (chassis 12), was used to test the new gearbox, central driving position and carbon brakes, and was mated to a Chevy V8 to try and simulate the torque of the BMW V12.
Unfortunately both examples were destroyed afterwards.
I also heard they were given the nicknames Albert and Edward, but I could be wrong.
I hope that's cleared everything up.
Great videos BTW 👍
@underballbutter@@automobilistic ☝️☝️☝️
@@glynmarley6559 I can vouch for your information here. There's a really good documentary out there on the history of Ultima cars, which began as a couple of very cometitive club racers playing one-upmanship with each other in the 1960's, to the dismay of all other race entrants! The documentary corroborates your story that McLaren bought two chassis' from Ultima for development and testing and that they were both broken up afterwards. I'd call that criminal damage!
@@robair67 it's good to know that I wasn't just going on a "Grandpa Simpson" style yarn there.
Thanks for the info.
Do you have any links for this documentary? I would definitely like to see it.
Cheers.
@countreefus , how about a feature on Ultima too?
This car is likely the one I'd show to the aliens first if they were ever to land. Just to let them know that we've got cool stuff too
Give it 3 years and around a mill of subscribers..its good sht 🤣
Top speed and 0-60 times are not what the F1 is all about.
There is a bigger chance of being stabbed than see Mclaren F1 in London.😂
Mr bruce McLaren would be proud of the f1
You made a mistake on weight it's Actually 1138kg 😈
Im glad Honda said no. The BMW Engine was perfect
the old one looks a lot better
7:45
"GOLD PLATED ENGINE BAY"
doesn't actually show an example...
The rolling laboratory of what was to come was the 959...every single car on the planet today has some of the 959 DNA in it, and Porsche made a fortune in licensing the technology to the rest of the world.
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McLaren F1...not so much.
No one dreams about owning a 959..
@@tumslucks9781 Your DREAM car came and went like a fart in the wind...and the 911(with the 959 being a variant of) is STILL the benchmark sports car in the world.
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But keep dreaming...
I choose the F1, Porsche are just flattened VW Beetles with more power😂
F1 MP4-4
You can get a mclaren 12c for 80k
just because you can, doesn't mean you should lol
how did they get permission to use 'F1' and the logo? Bernie must've been blindsided. Missed out on a buck
The Greatest Car Ever Made (* in the 1990's)
Sorry but by any objective measure, there are three VERY important words missing not just from the title of this piece but also from the audio. Those words are, "In my opinion".
Just for a start, the narrator moans about everything since needing forced induction. What he fails to mention however, is the fact that the emissions regs are much tighter now than when the F1 was built and so are the crash/design regs. Without those same restrictions I suspect that the motoring landscape would be very different.
Great car? Yes. Best ever, maybe - please set down your objective criteria when you make your argument............I certainly wouldn't choose one as either my forever car or even one in my 'billionaires garage'.
Still the fastest naturally aspirated car.
gordon ramsey did amazing job designing this car!
Mr Bean owns an F1
He used to, I believe Rowan Atkinson sold his F1 in 2015. I think it sold for something close to 8 or 9 million pounds
And he crashed it twice
yeah lol, I wish I could crash my car twice and still sell it for 8x what I bought it for haha
Do NOT like the Pink/bright yellow 😠😡 on the car horrible!!!!!!!!!!!
Once i see Mclaren F1s in race tracks and drag strips being raced by privateers then maybe i'd think it is a great car (not even the greatest), but it really is just a rich person's showpiece or garage queen. Some rich people daily drive it and bring it to coffee shops, but none of them are winning drag races or time attacks.
The Porsche 911 (which i don't even like) has more street cred and racing accolades than this overpriced showpiece. Not to mention Evo, Supra, GTR, Huracans, etc. which are raced by factory teams and privateers alike and can also be seen on drag strips and half mile races. Now those are great cars modded and driven by passionate enthusiasts.
How did it compare to cars(say F50, XJ220) of it's era and a decade later(Enzo, Carrera GT) , when it raced on tracks and drag strip?
Obviously, when compared to modern supercars it would likely lose due to older technology?
... Except a lot do still get track time, especially the GTRs. The fact that you brought up drag strips for cars like this also means either you're a teenager with no concept of these types of vehicles, or an uninformed adult.
@@francozallo2118
Well I don't think it is fair to compare GTRs to road going supercars unless it is converted for road use. Are you talking about road going GTRS or GTRs on slick tires?
Yes. …. F1 is greatest car ever…. Almost bought it for 600 k in 2001 after stock market crashed…
I definitely wouldn’t call this the greatest car ever made. Try giving it to some everyday person see how long it runs without its ridiculous upkeep and maintenance to keep it running 🤣
Lining the engine bay with gold was a stupid flex and went against all the other engineering they did to make it have great performance. Copper would of been far cheaper and is much lighter and way better thermal conductivity. This just is another point of why it’s absolutely not the greatest car ever made.
The reason they used gold was for reflectivity, not conductivity…..
I seriously don't know why McLaren continue to make cars . None of their subsequent endeavors have lived up to the F1.
To fund their racing teams in F1, Indycar, XE and FE
❤️ McLaren
I was like 16 when this car came out I had my Motor Trend and Car and driver magazines and I was blown away with the seat in the middle