Zonda or Diablo? Supercar Showdown

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024

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  • @MichaelMisanthropist
    @MichaelMisanthropist 2 роки тому +56

    The Zonda gives me total Group C vibes, like a reimagining of one in the 90s. It’s always been my favorite because of that.

  • @SieTeppischfresser
    @SieTeppischfresser 2 роки тому +23

    I remember playing Gran Turismo 3 when my dad walked by and said, "what in the world is that!" He immediately went on the computer and looked it up. He never got that excited about cars, so that moment has stuck with me.

  • @sharpemang
    @sharpemang 2 роки тому +24

    The Zonda looks really cool and ahead it's time. It might be why it stuck around for almost 20 years relatively unchanged looks wise

    • @DPain82
      @DPain82 Рік тому

      Horatio actually worked for Lamborghini at the time they were looking for the contache replacement.

  • @ΕΥΣΤΡΑΤΙΟΣΤΣΟΡΛΙΑΝΟΣ

    Like Jeremy Clarkson said: "This is brilliant ( Diablo). But I like this (Zonda)".

    • @leonsilcott4895
      @leonsilcott4895 Рік тому +1

      have you gone come completely mad🤣🤣🤣

  • @jujuju948
    @jujuju948 2 роки тому +36

    Then we have the Pegassi Infernus, which is literally the love child of these two cars

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому +7

      Accurate!

    • @ehojabe
      @ehojabe 10 місяців тому

      ​@wd5vd It's a supercar from the GTA HD universe. It's design is a mixture of the Diablo, Murcielágo and Zonda.

  • @Chadabi
    @Chadabi 2 роки тому +25

    The interior design of Pagani is unparalleled

    • @Hamlet-wp2ri
      @Hamlet-wp2ri Рік тому +1

      I’d also say all his cars designs are as well, just the rear view mirrors themselves are masterpieces.

  • @jwork5680
    @jwork5680 Рік тому +8

    As an Indonesian im actually surprised a company from my country actually owned Lamborghini once lmao
    That's definitely unexpected

  • @domquinnchandler
    @domquinnchandler 2 роки тому +15

    Great video, very interesting. Both are beautiful cars but the I prefer the Zonda

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому +7

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video :) I agree, theres still something so special about those Zondas

  • @Spherz
    @Spherz 2 роки тому +12

    While I definitely think the zonda wins in the looks department, it’s rarity kind of backfires in a sense to where I’ve beheld many diablos in person and have grown a fondness for them.
    Great comparison!

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому +4

      Now that you mention it, I've never seen a Zonda in person either. You might be onto something! Glad you enjoyed the video :)

  • @leandrociarrapico9256
    @leandrociarrapico9256 2 роки тому +9

    First of all, I just discovered this channel and being a car and history enjoyer, this is what I have been looking for so, new subscriber for you, now, I would like to make a request, maybe more because is a car from my country that being a world wide legend, but here in Argentina we had in the 60' a car build here and designed by Pininfarina, the IKA Torino 380W, it had pretty interesting design and engine features for the time, and no other than Juan Manuel Fangio tried to prove that it was the best turismo in the world, so he, alongside many argentine racing drivers and engineer, took 3 Torinos to the Marathon de la Route 1969 a.k.a the 84hs (yes, 84hs) of Nürburgring, only one of them finished and, although it was the car that did more laps, it was dropped to 4th place due to some penalties, still I think is the only time a full argentine team got such a good performance in an european competition.
    Also a video about the Marathon de la route itself would be neat.

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому +2

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
      That sounds like a really interesting story, I've added it to the list and I'll look into it. Thanks for the great suggestion!

  • @wildlostland9102
    @wildlostland9102 Рік тому +2

    There‘s something special about Diablo GTR that makes it mesmerizingly awesome, I don’t know why but it feels like the righteous yakuza hitman’s ride, some extra hostility besides being cool.

  • @domtavis4653
    @domtavis4653 2 роки тому +6

    I think the looks are generational, i rarey meet people older than me (30) who are big zonda fans.

  • @rooramblingon895
    @rooramblingon895 Рік тому +3

    One of the best articles I read was in Car Magazine. Gordon Murray went to see Horatio Pagani...they spent the whole time discussing how to make cars lighter. Both are obsessive about weight and attention to detail in design and manufacturing.
    Pagani got the engine deal through Jaun Manuel Fangio.

  • @teertaa
    @teertaa 2 роки тому +4

    The diablo (facelift ones) is the best car for me visual wise. Idk why i prefer one with fixed 300zx headlights instead of the original popup.

  • @JReaLBiz86
    @JReaLBiz86 Рік тому +1

    I give the Zonda the edge in "cool factor" for one major point:
    Pagani worked for Lamborghini. Started out sweeping their floors, and became a lead designer/engineer on their cars. And he wanted to start using carbon fiber bodywork for their cars (even personally bought the massive machinery needed to produce it), but Lamborghini wanted nothing of it since it wasn't really a thing at the time.
    Thus, Pagani decided, "... F it... I'll do it myself".
    And with that sole decision, he created one of the most celebrated and iconic supercar manufacturers in the world. All hand-crafted. All done his way. Made to look fast, go fast, sound fast, yet have a level of driving and interior comfort that was lacking in the supercar market for nearly 2 decades after he unveiled his first concept model. Unless it was a Pagani Zonda variant.
    I love the Diablo, especially the SV and the GT. But the Zonda is just one flippin' cool car.

  • @philipprince9949
    @philipprince9949 2 роки тому +1

    Gran turismo soundtrack always gets me

  • @RafitoOoO
    @RafitoOoO Рік тому +1

    Both are amazing but the Diablo is my childhood dream car, I'd choose it over any other car in a heartbeat.

  • @andresrossi8744
    @andresrossi8744 Рік тому +1

    before the video started i was siding with the lambo but throughout the video you make very good points, the pagani is fearless and confident. also his creator is argentinian like me, i have no choice but to root for him now

  • @rnichol22
    @rnichol22 2 роки тому +2

    I'm glad the diabolo was changed it looks so much better

  • @rogertootkaylok5716
    @rogertootkaylok5716 Рік тому

    I enjoyed you're comments on these 2 respective super cars. I, personally (we all have our own ideas on different cars & I understand your favorite, the Pagani Zonda. I, however, like the Diablo, through the years of production. So that is my response to your invitation to you you, sir. Thank you for allowing us, whomever we are. C/O Roger Ruuska aka Tootkaylok . Bye, bye!

  • @AntneeUK
    @AntneeUK Рік тому +1

    Agree that the Zonda is the cooler car, but I always wanted a Diablo, and still do. SE30 please!

  • @RallycrossGT
    @RallycrossGT Рік тому +1

    I never got into Pagani. Any of them. Maybe because I was born in the 80s and grew up with the Diablo, it is more iconic to me. In saying that, I would love to see a comparison between the Diablo and the Ferrari F40, as I think they are the other two most (visually) iconic Super Cars of the era

  • @duomaxwell5807
    @duomaxwell5807 Рік тому

    The Gran Turismo 2 music just takes me back...thank you bruv..just subbed

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg7843 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video. The Lamborghini is my favourite, I remember reading about it in car magazines when I was 9.

  • @michaelsummerell8618
    @michaelsummerell8618 2 роки тому +3

    I'm surprised that it's the Diablo, not the Murcielago being compared with the Zonda, given the Diablo is a significantly earlier car.

    • @GoodBoy-io6fd
      @GoodBoy-io6fd 3 місяці тому

      2002 was the release date of the Zonda but they finished it in 1999. The comparison is still good! The youtuber is wrong about the 0-60 miles of the Diablo GT. The GT can reach 3.4 to 3.5 0-60 and a quarter mile time of 11.1 to 11.3 ONLY IF you will not baby the clutch to get the fastest acceleration! Even the GT and VT 6.0 can match the speed of the Zonda C12 S, A much faster version of the Zonda. If you asked Lamborghini for a taller gear ratio, the Diablo GT will reach 217 to 220 MPH that is about 350 to 354 KPH.

  • @corvettesareneat1274
    @corvettesareneat1274 2 роки тому +2

    The zonda is fantastic and the interior is better than lambo’s, but the lambo is just amazing, especially the se30. Overall both are great, but there’s something about the Diablo that just makes it finer.

  • @huyra8019
    @huyra8019 2 роки тому +2

    Here's the thing. I know if I work hard enough the dream of a Diablo is atainable however I could never be fortunate enough to afford a Zonda.

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому +2

      I'd never thought of it like that. In fairness I've never really thought about owning either haha. Interesting point though - attainability certainly influences my own taste in cars

    • @huyra8019
      @huyra8019 2 роки тому

      @@automobilistic also the Zonda was never sold in America so its going to be even more expensive. I love pagani to death and even drew one as a project for hs but barrier of entry kinda kills the dream. Its like having a crush on a p-star. But your neighbor is almost as hot and she bakes cookies 🍪

  • @anhondacivic6541
    @anhondacivic6541 2 роки тому +2

    The tvr speed 12 vs the mclaren f1 since we're on the topic of 90's supercars

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому +2

      Good suggestion! I'll add that one to the list

    • @Thumper68
      @Thumper68 2 роки тому

      The speed 12 never happened though… while the mclaren f1 is legendary

  • @philmanson2991
    @philmanson2991 Рік тому

    The driver of the Zonda is pitched forward like the old late 70s F1 cars; really RAD!

  • @carlosoruna7174
    @carlosoruna7174 Рік тому +1

    I remember seeing a diablo when it came out. It was 365000 canadian. Luigi said it's cheap on payment plan. 1000 a day for a year. Pagani is a better car.

  • @davidroberts2921
    @davidroberts2921 Рік тому +1

    I thought the Diablo had pop up headlights in development and only utilized the Nissan headlights when DRL became a requirement.

    • @GoodBoy-io6fd
      @GoodBoy-io6fd 3 місяці тому

      When 1999 came, they changed the Pop Up to fixed Nissan 300ZX Fairlady Z head lights. The SV, VT, VT Spyder, GT, GTR, VT6.0 and VT 6.0 SE are all fixed head lights borrowed from the 300ZX from 1999 up to 2001.

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch Рік тому

    The Lamborghini Miura is still my most favorite Lamborghini ever.
    Just a beautiful design, not so good on the road though as many have said.
    The Zonda is a dream car, period.

  • @overlystupid4403
    @overlystupid4403 Рік тому +1

    you should do this with the 458 italia and the aventador

    • @GoodBoy-io6fd
      @GoodBoy-io6fd 3 місяці тому

      No match! It should be the 458 and Gallardo Performante

  • @JParkes43
    @JParkes43 2 роки тому

    Never realised the zonda was that old!

  • @sethwell2552
    @sethwell2552 Рік тому +1

    Diablo wins across the board, the Pagani is slower and more expensive. Also, it doesn't look like a spaceship to me, it looks like a bug lol

  • @TenorCantusFirmus
    @TenorCantusFirmus 2 роки тому +1

    The Zonda is so insane, it makes "Lambos" tame in comparison.

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch Рік тому +1

    👍💪✌

  • @AZAZEL_TK
    @AZAZEL_TK 3 місяці тому

    The Lamborghini Diablo will always be my favorite super car regardless of the time

  • @gorereel.r2780
    @gorereel.r2780 Рік тому

    Zonda for the looks

  • @MrTravisbmx11
    @MrTravisbmx11 2 роки тому

    love the fact you use gt4 music

    • @GoodBoy-io6fd
      @GoodBoy-io6fd 3 місяці тому

      Is that Gran Turismo 4 not Gran Turismo 3?

  • @marineforces3214
    @marineforces3214 2 роки тому +1

    … ya , the zonda looks special , I bought myself a diablo , good enough for me

  • @brentthornton1336
    @brentthornton1336 2 роки тому

    What is with the weird bonnet vent? I have never seen that before on any Lamborghini

  • @CLOYO
    @CLOYO Рік тому

    What's that car at 2:11?? Looks like the old concept?

  • @jonnywalker3208
    @jonnywalker3208 2 роки тому

    Pagani ... that noisy neighbour that you can't get rid of.

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 Рік тому

    I prefer the Diablo with the 300ZX headlights. I just do.

    • @GoodBoy-io6fd
      @GoodBoy-io6fd 3 місяці тому

      Me, the Pop Up but the 300ZX fix head lights gave it a good look. I MISS THE POP UP HEAD LIGHTS or hidden head lamps.

  • @nigelbagguley7606
    @nigelbagguley7606 2 роки тому

    Why were designers in the eighties so addicted to the ruler?

  • @trevorjason4962
    @trevorjason4962 Рік тому

    I think Chrysler made the right choice with the Diablos looks

  • @RogueBeatsARG
    @RogueBeatsARG Рік тому

    Lets all be honest, Chrysler fixed the Diablo desing.

  • @23GreyFox
    @23GreyFox 2 роки тому

    It was a good idea to go with a AMG engine.

  • @Tr3m0rz
    @Tr3m0rz Рік тому

    I don't care about the stats. well I do.. kinda.. but when it comes to looks?
    The Diablo, looks like just about every other lambo there is.
    The Zonda? the only thing that looks like is the Zonda, so it wins. hands down.

  • @super_slav91
    @super_slav91 2 роки тому +1

    Diablo looks way cooler.

  • @Thumper68
    @Thumper68 2 роки тому

    Thankfully Chrysler fixed the styling cause it’s much better looking then the original monstrosity

  • @traviswalker8933
    @traviswalker8933 2 роки тому

    I don't like the Zonda's rear. It looks weird to me. The Zonda R is the best looking Zonda out of the bunch.

  • @killingfields1424
    @killingfields1424 2 роки тому

    Zonda R

  • @MilfordHeavenMercadoPach-im7jk

    Diablo>Zonda that it my pick say no more.

  • @awakenedsoul2638
    @awakenedsoul2638 Рік тому

    If you compare this Zonda to the Murcielago, the Murcielago will easily destroy this Zonda!

  • @natangweiitula
    @natangweiitula Рік тому

    The Zonda drives better in Gran Turismo 😂

  • @740414daan
    @740414daan Рік тому

    Nonono Diablo GT is way cooler. Looks much more masculine.

  • @andrehooker3229
    @andrehooker3229 Рік тому

    Dammit I just made 667 likes 😭

  • @shrummotorracing4186
    @shrummotorracing4186 9 місяців тому +1

    Ok dont string me up or anything and this tastes like vinegar coming out of my mouth but i think chrysler was right this time

  • @awakenedsoul2638
    @awakenedsoul2638 Рік тому

    I love your Gran Turismo 2, 3 and 4 sound tracks. FOR ME THE DIABLO IS THE WINNER HERE IN THE LOOKS DEPARTMENT! Yes the Zonda is rarer but a few of the Diablo versions like the VT6.0, SE30, SV 1998, SV-R, GT and GTR are now all shooting up in market value. And you know the truth even the Diablo can reach 0-60 in 3.2 to 3.6 seconds that is the versions of the SV, GT and VT6.0 if you are good in shifting. The Diablo is an actual 11 second car with the GT and VT6.0 it can reach 11.1 to 11.7 seconds in the quarter mile only if you are good in shifting. These two 6.0 liters V-12 super cars are the fastest versions of the Diablo and was more refined because it was Audi the one who designed these versions. The Zonda C12 S is a 7.0 mercedes-benz V-12 that is reported to have a top speed of 220 MPH but was not proven and 0-60 is 3.5 to 3.7 almost equal to the Diablo. Independent road test reports said that the fastest versions of the Diablo can go over 215 miles and that was when they tested the GT. ALL IN ALL THE DIABLO IS THE WINNER HERE!

  • @buzzworddujour
    @buzzworddujour 2 роки тому +1

    what's legendary about the diablo?

  • @DroneStrike1776
    @DroneStrike1776 2 роки тому

    Chrysler designed looked better.

    • @GoodBoy-io6fd
      @GoodBoy-io6fd 3 місяці тому

      YEAH RIHT! Compared to the original Diablo Design the Cizeta Moroder V16 T.

  • @TheColorado4wheeler
    @TheColorado4wheeler Рік тому

    Zonda is custom. Diablo is mass produced. Zonda is always going to be worth more and owning the original is worth even more. Zonda has a soul and passion that goes beyond speed or power. That doesn't take away from the Diablo but the Diablo simply can't match it.

  • @teertaa
    @teertaa 2 роки тому

    Ah yes its hard to talk about diablo without talking about cia or their dictators (or their fishy companies)

  • @MidnightMechanic
    @MidnightMechanic 2 роки тому +1

    The Diablo aged terribly, while Zondas haven't aged a bit. The 1999 motorshow Zonda still looks like it could come out this year.

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому +6

      The Diablo has charm, but its definitely retro charm. The Zonda as you say has aged much better

    • @MidnightMechanic
      @MidnightMechanic 2 роки тому

      @@automobilistic Being called retro as a mid 1990's car is a bad sign. By then the F50 came out, and looks woefully more modern than the F40 or Countach.

    • @youngrody2386
      @youngrody2386 2 роки тому +1

      While The Zonda did age great, I always preferred the looks of the Diablo. Not to mention Lamborghini has more of a racing Heritage over Pagani that wins it for me though how little the it has it.

    • @traviswalker8933
      @traviswalker8933 2 роки тому +2

      @@MidnightMechanic the F50 had a questionable design for sure.

    • @MidnightMechanic
      @MidnightMechanic 2 роки тому

      @@traviswalker8933 The F50 had aggressive yet functional design, Ferarri's Viper basically.

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 2 роки тому

    Yeah right- as if the people who can afford these cars are watching some stupid You Tube video. This is designed for guys living in basements with a lot of car posters on the wall and stacks of well worn car magazines next to an unmade bed.

  • @Big_Black_Dick
    @Big_Black_Dick 2 роки тому

    let's not forget about lotec tho in the 90s they came out wit the C1000 and later the SIRIUS, those were really fast super cars 🤔 actually they were like LM spec race cars pretty much

    • @automobilistic
      @automobilistic  2 роки тому

      Lotec could be a good video topic. The Sirius is a hypercar not enough people have heard of. Such a shame they never built more

    • @Big_Black_Dick
      @Big_Black_Dick 2 роки тому

      @@automobilistic😀 yeah pretty cool car the lotec Sirius,, but i don't recognize the term "hypercar" lol i think it's completely nonsensical and it's just some nonsense european marketing term made up for the 918, la ferrari and the mclaren p1 electric supercars,,,, absolutely no such thing as a hypercar or ultracar or megacar 😂🤦🏽 silly nonsense,,,,, the pinnacle of high performance cars is simply a supercar my dude,,, stuff like corvettes, porche 911s, ferrari 488GTB, mclaren 720s, audi R8s are exotic sports cars :P i don't abide by nonsense and marketing or weirdos trying to change languages and meanings of things lol

    • @Big_Black_Dick
      @Big_Black_Dick 2 роки тому

      @@automobilistic u make awesome videos tho 😀 i love ur content lol

    • @Big_Black_Dick
      @Big_Black_Dick 2 роки тому

      @@automobilistic and yeah ur right 🤔 i always wondered why they didn't build more sirius or why more people didn't order them, it was a legit 250mph car, probably the fastest when it came out,, but im not sure tho cause Bugatti was starting to do their thing and things like the SSC AERO TT was also a 250 mph car around that time and not to mention my favorite car of all time the Saleen S7 twin turbo,,, so 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @putonewhiskey
    @putonewhiskey Рік тому

    Cizeta V16...

  • @paulthompson6284
    @paulthompson6284 Рік тому +1

    Ahh yes Lamborghini. Based on what I've heard they were nightmares to drive in the old days, but Audi turned all that borderline barking mad performance and made them easier to drive.

    • @awakenedsoul2638
      @awakenedsoul2638 Рік тому +1

      You are talking about the normal Diablo and the first VT. But since the introduction of the GT, SV, VT 6.0 and the Millennium Roadster it was easier to drive.