In most cases when a ridiculous rule is in place it is generally in reaction to a problem that happened once. Someone took advantage of a courtesy or caused a problem. Like the old saying, "someone has to ruin it for everyone".
I believe that with all the crazies out there, folks do not need to know my name, unless I volunteer it. If the park is so bent on tags, just wear one with an assigned number on it. Too much information for the public is NOT ok. Especially if you are a solo female!
Exactly. You'd think wrist bracelets would be sufficient like the ones they give you for water parks and zip lining, if there really was an issue with non-customers coming into the park.
No way am I going to wear a prison number or name tag. I would leave that park there are other more obliging and comfortable parks. I want some rules because people take advantage and run rampant. Loud crazy music continuously cursing and disrespectful behavior. No one should know your name unless you want them to. Most RVERS know the common sense rules of camping. 1. Don’t walk through someone else’s camping site. 2. Pick up your camping site (leave it cleaner than when you found it) 3. No loud talking or music especially after 10pm. (Most National and State parks have this rule, you will be escorted out of the park if not complied with) 4. Don’t feed the animals( skunks will come to your site looking for food) it’s not very pleasant believe me) we had a bear arrived at night people next to us left out can of nuts. Demolished their cooler left under their Rv.
@@tallgirlhappyme there really is an issue with non RVers coming in to the park. These thugs trashed the bathrooms now they are locked with number key locks. The thugs also come in to the park and steal grills your camping chairs anything left outside your RV’s. Look for fencing around park little safer. Sad but very true. Our friend had their bicycles stolen while at a restaurant. (Locked on back of RV) now they have their bicycles locked in their truck bed.
Dogs should be supervised when outside - period. I had my dog nearly attacked (while walking on a leash) by a dog tethered to a dog bed. He ran at my dog (carrying the bed behind him) and jumped at me and my dog. The owners were very apologetic and said their dog would not have harmed - just played. Their dog - 50 pounds... my dog 5 pounds. I don’t think so. I wouldn’t leave mine outside for fear of other animals (not only dogs) attacking her. I just don’t think this is a bad rule. Should be applied to small children as well.
I know some will disagree but, I feel as long as all your laundry isn’t hanging out to dry, you should be allowed to let towels and swimming apparel dry outside.👍🏻🙏🏻
I think a lot of thought behind this one is a clothesline. If you have a clothesline and it's at night there is a chance that someone could get hurt by running into it at night because you can't see it. I have seen a no clothesline rule a lot at campgrounds.
This is why I boondock most of the time. Anyone who would reward a park like this with their money is encouraging this ridiculous behavior. If they want to have stupid rules, then fine - it's still a (mostly) free country, but they won't get my money. If you want them to change their rules, starve 'em out.
I agree with the rule against music outdoors. It’s awful to be forced to hear music you don’t choose to hear, and if it’s outdoors, there’s no choice. It’s noise pollution.
You are right as a host I have had to shut down music contests between rvers because they were playing so loud i could here it across the campground, and they kept turning it up because they didn't like their neighbors music, maybe the odd couple should think the reasoning behind the rules instead of bashing them
@@jarrodharris5929 Yeah, to be honest, most of those rules seem like they have good reasoning behind them. It seems like these folks didn't really think about them past their own inconvenience.
@@RedGreyV I think they look at the rules considering only how they act and don’t abuse privileges such as playing music loudly - forgetting that not everyone behaves the way they do. The rules have to protect everyone from the small percentage of people who are inconsiderate, and I’m sure every rule is there to prevent problems the sites have had in the past.
The no music/noise outside would suit me just fine, but my whole point for getting an RV would be to get away from the noise and relax and write in a new location with new scenery, but I'm a novelist so I have weird needs. I wouldn't much care if you had your skivvies outside to dry. They're just blowing in the wind. LOL
In smaller to mid-size RV's, drying wet items outside is a necessity to keep moisture/humidity inside the RV at a minimum. I carry and use a folding drying rack for that purpose.
There's never been such a thing. What there has been, is countless people assuming that their experience is everyone's experience. I'm actually going to suggest, based solely on your comment, that I would find you to be an idiot. And I'm no idiot.
The only one I like is the one about the music/TV outside. I don't want to hear your music/TV. Sites are generally so close in a park, so that is a no. If there is lots of room between sites, then no big deal. I think many would agree but will be afraid to admit it.
I agree so much with this rule. Here in Europe the campsites are very „cosy“ 🥴, meaning the next RV is right next to yours. I am Autistic as well as one of our sons and it is literally torture if we have to listen to all kinds of music from all around our camper.
...when dealing with these folks in person, all I keep seeing is the Security Guard (John Candy) at Wally World and my frustration identifies with Clark Griswold 😂😂
Not necessarily true for National Parks. The Park Superintentant can make additional rules for the park they oversee known as the Superintendant's Compendium.
One park here in Michigan had the last rule: "See ranger for additional rules." Who is going to do that? "Excuse me sir, can you tell me more rules, please?"
My husband and I have been Rving for about 30 years. Within that time we have experienced campground owners who use "rule requirements" purely as sources of "revenue enhancement". Some take it to the EXTREME. Example:. We had a less than 5 minute "stop by" from a friend in her 70s who wanted us to "quick met" her two granddaughters before taking them for a day at the zoo. We had heard of her grandkids for years but never had met them. So we we're glad to say hello to them. They didn't get out of the car, it was that quick! Afterwards, my friend said they had to pay $12.00 per visitor (2 adults, 2 grandkids) to stop by and visit us regardless of how long it short the visit was. Here's the extra kicker too...that was the NEGOTIATED RATE --- DOWN FROM $25.00 A HEAD! Amazing isn't it ⁉️ Simply mean, nasty GREED to take that amount of money from a 70 year old Grandma.
What drives me crazy is the " Ten Year Rule". My new camper is only four years old but I had my last one for 15. It still was in good shape and all but it was time for our retirement camper not a family camper with bunks. I will not support those places.
Agree about the 10 years. I have seen videos where people were turned down when they were driving a totally reconditioned classic mid-70s GMC motorcoach. Those are a thing of beauty. And Airstreams that are in pristine shape - how can you tell how old they are?! Do you have to show your registration? I understand that they don’t want some dirt bag coming in, but vehicles in good shape - especially classic RVs - should be allowed in. And some parks I understand will do it on a case by case basis. You can bring your RV and then they’ll decide whether it’s OK. But you have to be prepared to be turned away. We don’t stay in resort parks anyway. We’re campers. And we put our towels out to dry with impunity! I don’t think we’ve ever stayed anywhere with a concrete pad, so that’s a non-issue for us.
Wow! They won't let you in if your camper is older than 10? Last year I checked out a 65-year-old reconditioned camper for a friend of mine. New wiring, LED lights, chassis, HVAC, interior and appliances. It was beautiful but maybe not beautiful enough.☹
@@justmeandthethree Different parks have different ideas about what is “acceptable“. Usually they are the higher end ones, the resort types. Or the wannabes. Apparently. I say apparently because I wouldn’t know. We don’t stay in places like that. We go for funkier places and state parks and national parks and things. “Resort” would be an anathema to us. But some places don’t allow certain types of RVs. There’s a private park on the Oregon coast where our 2020.5 Travato van would not be allowed. They don’t allow Class Bs of any age. I guess we`re a little too much like campers and not enough like RV lifestylers. Shrug...
This is one of the dumbest rules around. I understand they probably want to keep barely running RVer's from becoming a permanent residence, however there's still a lot of very nice older rigs on the road. I've often wised there was a website devoted to naming these parks with asinine rules.
Having worked in a Private Campground I can see why some of these rules might be needed. What do I do as a campground owner when neighboring campers are A) complaining about an incessantly barking dog outside and the camper/pet owner's are no where to be found? Do I let that German Shepherd loose, try to put inside the camper or what? And yappy little dogs are no less irritating. One of the reasons for escorting RV's to their sites is 1) so they don't get lost and drive all over the park looking for their site 2) they don't drive up a one way lane. 3) The reason for waiting and watching (beside stopping campers from backing into a tree, or utility post) is to prevent fighting. Fights break out between spouses while parking, but more often while parking, the lane is blocked when someone else tries to drive to their site and they have to wait during the parking event to clear the lane. People get impatient, try to "help" the parking camper and fights can ensue. Having an employee there can help prevent this by expediting the parking event and asking the waiting party to be respectful and tolerant. B) If I'm sitting in a hot tub with a mask on and some other guest comes in without a mask, then I'm leaving - I don't want to catch Covid-period. And I don't want you to catch it from me or anyone else. C) I agree a "packet" of rules is odd. But as a guest, if you can't live with ( or insist on ridiculing) the rules - . What I'm saying is the campground is private, and even though you are an invited paying guest, rules are there for a reason (safety, respect of other guests, and enjoyment of the facilities, etc). As a former campground employee and a life long camper I know why everyone of those rules are there. Enforcing the rules is difficult - fines are a deterrent and kicking out guests is a punishment. Liability insurance is ridiculously expensive and some rules are requested by insurance agents to help keep the premium costs down and lawsuits to a minimum. Welcome to modern society...
Thanks for these comments. I treat private campgrounds basically the same as HOAs. It's your choice if you want to go there, but if you do, you have to play by the rules; some people like HOAs for a certain guaranteed "feel" of the community but many don't because of the stringent rules that restrict freedom (to each their own) - it's what you signed up for. The only thing that would bother me is if these rule sheets are sprung on you out of nowhere as you check-in, had no knowledge they existed, and they were not posted anywhere on the campground's website or literature.
At one of the RV basic courses I attended during the training on security they pointed out how so many RVers set themselves up by putting signs outside with their names on them. Giving someone with nefarious intentions too much information is dangerous.
My pet peeve: we do a lot of dry camping and some very inconsiderate campers will run a generator way into the night or crank it up at the crack of dawn. Hate the noise, we camp to enjoy the piece and quite, not to listen to an engine running all the time.
You’ll love these... all of these rules are from the same park. 1. Flame from campfire cannot reach more than 18 inches from the ground at any time. 2. You must pay extra $8.00 per person to use the pool at the time of entrance to pool. If you leave the pool area and come back in you must pay a re entry fee. 3. You can only grill out with the persons in your own camper. You may not grill out with persons from another camper. 4. You must pay a fee to use the public shower. (The owner will come unlock it for you and wait at the door for you to finish and lock it back up). 5. You can only walk your dog on your own lot. 6. You must pay $10.00 per person for guests and they can only stay for 3 hours. Guests wanting to use the pool will also have to pay the $8.00 pool fee. That’s all I can remember off the top of my head.
Wow! An entire video explaining exactly why my wife and I ONLY boondock:). When we first moved to Utah, we did work camping in a KOA while our house was being built. That summer was enough to put me off campgrounds forever. That's not meant to be a knock on KOA specifically, just private campgrounds in general. To each his own though, so have fun everybody!
I totally understand the not leaving your dog outside unsupervised. While walking our dog I have more than once have had to either grab her up or get in the way of a charging dog. The others I haven't encountered but do know some of them exist. That 13 page rules manual would throw me, by the time you get through reading the rules you could have already broken one without knowing you did. That hidden fee thing has hit us a few times; especially the extra fee for 50 amp service when you told the campground upfront that your unit required 50 amp service and they didn't tell you about the fee. That's like a gas station charging you a $2.00 fee for using the pump to get the fuel you need into your RV. I do agree most campgrounds are reasonable, but boy when they aren't they aren't.
"Can't use park water" to wash off the chalk? If you have to use water from your rv, that is also "park water". So what does that ridiculous rule accomplish?
The next camper to use that space might not appreciate your kid's artwork/graffiti and/or might not want chalk all over the patio to track into the RV.
Lol, I was in a Park in St Augustine Fl. to visit the in laws that lived in the area... One morning, I decide to cook breakfast for my Mother in law and father in law at the RV... Stopped at the office and let them know they would be by to have breakfast with us... They charged me a two person visiter fee 10 bucks... So my family could break bread with us on sunday for an hour.... Crazy!!! Gave them a roll of quarters and I laughed all the out of the office, What else could you do....
One of the most ridiculous "rules" I've ever been exposed to was some manager in a park telling me I couldn't walk with my service dog along a beach of the Gulf of Mexico. The reason I was given why was "your dog might do his business in the water and contaminate it!" Say what??? The billions of fish don't do their business in the ocean? How about the many people that pee in the ocean?? Gonna tell every boater they can't run fueled motors or have toilets on ships too? Not even mentioning that this sort of rule violates my rights to use the medical equipment of my choice to help mitigate my disability. It totally shocked me with that one. 😆 I can see it to a point about not letting a service dog in an enclosed pool water, but fine to be outside the pool on the walk. Go figure.
This park should be adults only park with family park on one side adults on the other side. I really love adult park no loud music no screaming children and no chalk drawings on your $150, thousand dollars RV. Or waking up to underwear and towels hanging out side on tree limbs blocking the beautiful views of the mountains.. I don’t want to hear someone else’s music while I am trying to relax. Some people if you give an inch they take a mile. Some people don’t have common sense. These rules are for these individuals that don’t follow simple rules. This has happened. Sorry but I won’t stay in park that doesn’t have adults only areas.
Dogs do love the beach, unhappily they leave little piles behind that barefooted beach goers do not much like. It is very rare to find a public beach in Florida that allows dogs on the beach. The whole 'service animal' scam has gotten out of hand too. If the dog is something like a seeing-eye dog that is one thing but most of us suspect that is not the case for a great majority of these critters. Especially when it has degraded to service Borros and parrots@@RVOddCouple They
J Bryan. There are many types of real service animals that are highly trained to perform tasks like mobility dogs, medical alert dogs. The ADA specifies to be a service dog that they have to perform a task. Unfortunately many think that there emotional support dogs and comfort dogs have the same access rights as service animals. The ADA has also specified that they be dogs with certain exceptions to tiny horses? The problem is that many thin it's perfectly okay to buy a vest and pretend their dog/pet is a service animal so they can take them places that are not allowed. If caught though they could get a fune up to 10k and jail time.
@@AmericanWanderers My service dog is a trained mobility assistance dog. He helps me keep upright when I walk, and when I use a mobility scooter or wheelchair, he will pick up things I drop, open doors for me, or help put things in a little trailer I pull behind my scooter when I shop. When we get to the checkout counter he will take the things out of the little trailer and put them on the conveyor belt. When I'm in a wheelchair without electric assist, he will actually pull the wheelchair and that really helps out my shoulders and back. Granted there are many many out there who fake a disability in order to bring their pet everywhere they go. Some of these pet dogs are well trained and well-behaved, so I don't generally bother with them. Some pet dogs however, have very little training and bad behavior habits. When a dog starts lunging and growling and barking at my service dog that's when I have to find a manager in a store and say something about it. There are many many different types of service dogs nowadays, and I think it's a little unfair that you think that any service dog that isn't a guide dog is a scam.
The rule about the chalk made me laugh. You can't use the hose to clear the chalk, because you're not conserving water, but you can haul water out from inside the camper.....it all comes from the same place! 🤦♀️
I am afraid i agree with this one. I went into a place that the previous people DIDNT clean up their chalk and we were half covered trying to work around the stuff. Chalk was EVERYWHERE.
@@andrewsaccounting I am ok with cleaning it, but the fine for using your outside hose vs hauling water out from inside your camper is crazy. It comes from the same place!
Guess that outdoor shower has another use! BTW it would be courteous to wash it off before you leave. There are absolutely no guarantees that the next people will appreciate your kid’s art or that it will rain.
Made my day with my morning coffee ! Yes rules are a pain. But where I am they are few but normal. I full-time RV and work locally. Chalk is acceptable here. Take a poll/vote. Bring it up to the board of RV park. Maybe some rules could be dropped -Your channel and others can make or break an RV campground. You have internet power with us. The RV odd squad. We band together ~ anything is possible!! Happy Trails
I’m a former park ranger, and I can easily imagine the circumstances that led to the creation of each on of those rules. Park users can be ... amazing…
Joy, I get it. I work for a City and we have rules and signage that is just bizarre. BUT there is ALWAYS a REASON for why the "rule or sign" was created. People amaze me. :-D but then i think, what a boring place we would live in, if they all had common sense. hahaha
We stayed at a campground in NJ and we had our grandson with us. My daughter came to pick him up to take him home and they charged $8 for her to pull her car into the visitor's parking, walk to our camper and pick up her son. Absolutely ridiculous!
This is the situation for when we camp at state parks in North Carolina. Every car into the park has a usage fee, so it's $7 per car. Most of the camp sites are too far to walk from the front, so parking up front and walking in would be difficult.
As a solo full timer, I’m ok with help getting into a site, the extra eyes are helpful. But I am with you, don’t tell me how to drive. I have driven large oversized semi’s and trailers, so I know how to drive. But that is my experience. There is a lot of people who never driven anything beyond a sedan, who went out and bought a large C, or A and don’t know how to drive them. Or worst, those who never learned how to handle a trailer. Resorts are getting tighter and tighter, rigs are larger and larger. The chance of impact is greater. I have heard stories and I believe you even had some experience in this (hint, hint) of damage caused to other people’s property due to impacts. It does not take much to severally damage rv’s. So I can understand that to a point. As far as towels outside, I hang mine over my outside mirror. If they say anything, “Sorry, I was washing my windows and left it outside”. Ends all arguments. The flags, hang them on the inside on the windshield, inside, my choice. You have no say what I hang inside my trailer. Just be creative, but respectful. How would you like to be treated? And no, “do onto them before they do onto you” is stupid! RESPECT! The best way to combat rule nazi’s is by our purchasing and reviews. If you don’t like it, don’t stay. Your dollar rules. It is their private property, they are allowed to have rules as long as they don’t infringe on our basic rights. Have a bad experience at a resort, post it, warn others. Have a great experience, post it, reward the resort. Catching back up with you, went through hell these last several months battling my now X. But moving forward. Great content!
We've been RVing now for about eight years. From two tagalongs, a fifth wheel, and now a class A and we've never stayed at a "resort". We love COE's and state parks but of course there is downside there also with the necessary existing rules not being enforced. We've noticed it more this year with all the newer RVers. Walking through our site, dogs running loose and owners not cleaning up after their dogs. Glad I found your channel, I'll check out the rest of your videos soon.
Just goes to show the difference of when I started RVing in the 70’s to today. We were never given any rules at a park or campground. We also didn’t experience any behavior that would cause a place to post rules. I guess people were just nicer and more mature campers back in those days.
naw 70's just as crazy was told to wear a swimming cap because hair was long at campground pool I was a twelve year old boy who grew up in the water never wore a cap in my entire pool experience. All us kids had long hair in the 70's. I didn't wear that cap and staid in pool ignoring the crazy campground lady and so did my brothers.
I agree some rules are over the top , but I also understand why some of them are there. Jo-Ann and I are full time RVers / Workcampers. We've had guest bring amplifiers to the campground and hook their TV's and Radios up to it and blast it throughout the campground when others were trying to sleep ( even after quiet hours ) , or just relax and read a book. The reason for no TV's or Radios outside the RV is because others have ruined it for you. Instead of just playing their music or TV loud enough for them to hear , they play it loud enough for everyone to hear. ( It's a campground , not a concert ). Not everyone likes your taste in music or TV shows , some people just want to enjoy the quiet and read a book or relax, etc. When you're in a campground your parked pretty close to your neighbor , so you have to be especially aware of that and not invade their privacy or peace.
@@RVOddCouple This year we had a father in the road right behind our RV batting a baseball to his son. He was literally right behind our RV batting the ball towards our RV. We had another family playing volley ball between our sight and theirs , just a couple of feet from our slideout. We were in Cannonville, Utah , where in the heck would we get a broken window replaced? As for drying towels. Most campgrounds ( including the ones we've worked at ) just don't want anything tied to their trees because their trees have been damaged. But I've never seen them complain if someone was drying their towels or clothes on their own drying racks.
We stayed at a campground that had the spots so close together that the guy behind me got parked and there was barely room to walk between the bumper of his camper and mine. On the side of me when that guy opened his slide it almost encroached into my camp spot.
I don't think that campers in a campground should play music or tv outside. We were camping one time and these people watched a movie from 9-midnight and they were inside but the outside speakers were playing the movie. I eventually bknocked on the door asked them to check the sound.
I have been full timing in RV parks for almost 5 years so: - The pets being left alone outside rule is pretty common. - My current RV park has a rule that you can't lock the bathroom stall doors from the inside and crawl under the door. - This one RV park has some doozies: Dogs are not allowed on ANY grass except your own site or dog park. You will be fined 50 bucks for moving your picnic table. You are NEVER allowed to switch RV sites. - One RV park must assist you in parking your RV. It must be perfectly straight in the site.
@@RVOddCouple - I would bet that it's a mix with about 70% begun rude campers. That aside we all have our differences and likes/dislikes. We should all strive to be patient with others. We've been to crazy ones where we couldn't have anything on the lawn, even though each site easily had 20,000 square feet of open space around them and only a tiny concrete pad. We've also been to a place with the only rule being, "be nice".
@@RVOddCouple 99 percent of the time it was the rude camper unless the owner had worked at another campground before creating their own, then had the insight to nip the bad behavior to begin with. Yes, there are some very crazy rules out there, but chances are there is a reason why they are there. You as a camper are only concerned about your stay at the campground. The camp host or owners are concerned about the stay of all of their guests. The question to really ask and yes even laugh about is Why this rule had to be included in the first place.
When i was a kid we stayed at a place that i think was called Rickets Glen, and WOW! We stayed at s whole lot of campgrounds in a whole lot of states, but this place was ridiculous. You could only set up your tent on tent specific designated spots, they wanted you to keep off the grass, you weren’t aloud to use any rope to hang your laundry or hang any tarps/lanterns, and you weren’t aloud to pickup or move any rocks. It was super super weird. No other campground we ever stayed at was as uptight and crazy as that one was. Lol
The dog one is absolutely NOT dumb! If your dog was ever to get off leashe or out of the gate and attacks another dog/person is why they have that rule. Just earlier this year I was attacked by a dog that got out of its " secure gate" and had to go to the ER. Keep your dog with you so that if escape accidents happen (& they will) you are there to prevent a trip to the ER.
2020 was our first year of RVing. EVERY place we stayed had at least one RV with a pack of barking dogs. A really elderly couple had several dogs and would bring them outside, two at a time, and place them in cages, left in the sun, with no water. They barked at everything and everyone while the couple stayed inside in the Air conditioning. Every few hours, they would let two dogs out of the cages, which desperately used the bathroom immediately, and the couple would bring out two more dogs and place them in the cages for the next 3 to 4 hours. For the entire four days, the only time we saw the couple, was when they were swapping out dogs. They had a large class A and they looked to be in their 80s. They spent the entire time inside, except to swap out dogs in the cages. I knew those dogs were suffering in the heat and needed water. I regret not reporting them, but we were new to RVing and didn't want to start off like a couple of Karens. I think the park had a two dog limit and this couple apparently could not handle having all their dogs inside at once, so they would put them outside, two at a time. They got away with this for the entire four days we were there, and they were directly across the street from us. Our dog does not bark or get excited about other dogs, so he would quietly lay next to us outside while the neighbor's dogs barked incessantly from their cages. Sometimes they would get tired of barking, but as soon as we or our dog, moved for any reason, it would trigger the other dogs to bark again. I was afraid to get up for a cold drink because I knew those dogs would bark for 15 to 30 minutes if I got up. It was maddening and a miserable experience.
You should post the names and addresses of the campgrounds. You're not badmouthing them, they brought most of the criticism on with their nazi management policies. Now that makes me laugh: Hitler running an RV park. I bet he'll make everyone stand outside their door and scream "heil Hitler!" eveeerrrry morning or get a fine!
@@auroranite I'll answer. Every damn one of them! Best stay at state and community parks. Stay away from parks close to cities. YOU are prime targets for commuting thugs. Buy a National Park Pas that give discounts to some campgrounds and all National Monument's.
Regarding the chalk, I never heard that 1 before, BUT I do like it. Regarding pets. I won't book a campground that allows pets outside the RV. I got bit once (never saw the dog hiding behind an evergreen) by a dog that was loose. I had 12 stitches to close the wound. When I returned from the hospital I told the owners, this can go one of 2 ways, either I kill the dog or have it taken care of by a vet, They did neither, they left, I sued, won and it cost them a LOT of $$ and the dog was put away. I try not to stay in a campground if I can help it. Boondocking is my friend. My class C was converted to 4 wheel drive, so now I stay as far away from others as possible.
The dumest thing we run in to a park is you must wear a mask everywhere in the park even if your inside your RV, it's a good thing I called before we went so DID NOT stoped but wanting us to wear inside was out of hand.
@@MLMWarriors Well now the recommendation is to wear them in your own HOME if you aren't 6 feet from others. Would a cpap mask count worn in bed next to your spouse or do you have to sleep head to foot or in separate rooms?
@@RVOddCouple Most people will say it doesn't bother them because most people that ask aren't actually interested in the answer. They just want to be able to say that they asked and know that the other person will say they aren't bothered in the interest of preserving neighborly relations. Leave the music off.
I don’t want to listen to children screaming either, but it’s a park and people are trying to have fun. If your idea of fun doesn’t include hearing other people then perhaps a campground isn’t the best choice for you. In two years of full timing I’ve spent more time listening to campground employees operating mowers, power tools, etc. than other people’s music. The rules should be what the LAWS are, there is no need for additional restrictions on people’s freedoms.... Karen
I feel like I’ve seen the people who caused all these rules, lol. We’re staying at a rv park right now where yesterday there were 10 bras hanging outside the back of a camper drying. Been to parks several times where people are playing super loud music that is annoying others. People always push the boundaries until you just have to say no this, or that...
I understand the rule about not leaving your dog outside or having your dog outside with you in Arizona. I have a friend that traveled with 5 yorkies and they were in a pen outside with her when a rattlesnake struck one. She rushed it to an emergency vet. When she came back, one of the others wasn't acting right. She took it to the vet and when it was shaved, found that it had been struck too. Both of those dogs died. When she returned to her spot the snake was coiled up under her trailer. This was in an RV Park not a boondock site. Be careful out there. It could have happened to a child too.
Omg that's so scary. Me and my husband was living at a campground. One day he was cutting grass and I left up the tarp outside. I was already thinking a snake might be under it. Sure enough, a copperhead came out. So now a year later we are now living in a mobile home. I seen a copperhead in a yard 2 houses down from me. Then a snake cross over my 19 yr old daughter foot. Then early one morning my grown son was standing beside my truck. And he looked down and seen a black snake, it had a lighter pattern on it. He took a video to show me. It had its mouth open. We have ALOT of pine trees and leaves. I'm so scared living here. I have 2 toddler grandbabies live with me. So afraid they gonna step on one or be playing and get bit. Not to be mean. But my grown kids are not very watchful of the baby's. I tell my son the copperhead snake could bit one of the baby's and could possibly kill them. He says no, just take them to the hospital. It will just swell up and hurt. I think my son needs more education. Any advice would be wonderful. Anyone out there know about snakes ?
Marsh j get a couple outdoor cats, snakes do not like them and will pretty much stay away. I live in the south we have alot of snakes too. I do not like being surprised by them either. Once while at the lake a couple yrs ago while peacefully laying on a float a big copperhead came within 2ft of me ! I wouldn't swim or even walk in the lake the rest of that year.
There's a nomad with a youtube channel who was visiting Florida for the first time and showed a video of her dog swimming in a lake. She got so mad at the people in the comment section who told her that was a bad idea, even though they were polite about it. Gators are so common here that I can't believe her dog didn't get eaten. They usually leave humans alone, but pets are fair game, literally. Of course she'd also let her dog run off leash, far away from her by a busy road. Even if the dog didn't run into the road, all the people driving by would have to worry that he would jump out in front of their car.
One park in Sedona required that all lights inside and out be turned off at 10 pm. You could barely watch tv at night with your blinds closed without getting yelled at by the grumpy lady in the golf cart... We accidentally left a 3 watt bulb on to light our step.. Omg!
As you were listing those (mostly) ridiculous rules I was thinking about creatively hilarious ways to violate every one of 'em! "Excessively controlling" was the most printable term that kept popping into my head. I'll park by the side of the road before I put up with some of that BS!
In my experience, rules in general are developed out of somebody doing something they shouldn't. I worked at an office where one guy "Eddie" would come to work in flip-flops, shorts and a t-shirt. We warned him to dress more appropriately for the office, but he refused because we did not have a formal dress code. So then we ended up with a formal dress code - and it was ridiculous - all because of Eddie.
I'm kind of glad you've brought up a bunch of these like I said I am a professional camp host it's what I do I've done it for quite a while like hanging stuff outside RV owner RV park owners don't like that because it does look trashy and as far as like having to hang stuff up when you're camping you're not really camping if you're at RV Park
Okay...Yes some of those rules are pretty OTT, but not all. A PET dog, any pet dog, regardless of breed or temperament, should never be left out doors unattended. It doesn't matter where you are or how friendly or quiet your dog is, it's a dog and it needs what dogs need. I'm a retired dog trainer/rehabilitation specialist and can tell you from over 40 years of experience that this is one of the canons of responsible dog ownership. I'm not going to get into or debate the "why" of this here, you can PM me if you like or join the "Dog Training Help" group on FB for a more in depth explanation. The matter of being supervised while moving your rig shouldn't require any explanation, as you said, it's a liability issue. That said, the supervisor should keep his/her trap shut and let you do your own thing speaking up ONLY when you're violating some rule/requirement. The rest of your list is pretty much a list of inane regulations which can be found in almost any field. Sometimes logic dictates that it's better to either go along quietly or move on to the next place. People after all are people, and although we ALL want the same thing out of life, some have a pretty crazy way of going about getting it. Cheers Joe P.
My dog is on a lead a lot when I am camping. He would rather die than be confined to be indoors all the time. He is a watch dog that scared off a snooper at a park in Mesquite AZ. The park had only 4 RVs in it so not many people around. it was night and he lunged, actually moving the RV and started barking. I opened the door to see what was wrong and a man standing behind my tow vehicle said, "Can't even walk to get ice without being attacked." NO you were in my RV space otherwise he wouldn't have moved out from under the RV. Plus the lead wasn't long enough for him to reach the end of the RV so if he "attacked" you you were in my space, within 8 feet of my door at the rear of the RV. He doesn't bark unless there is a reason to, he knew this guy was up to no good. By the way...there was no ice machine, toilet, or laundry that you had to walk past my unit from any of the other units to get to. So yes my dog will be outside whenever he can be.
Every one of those rules were enacted because some idiot or many idiots broke the more lenient rule until it was totally useless. Give them towels and they will hang swimsuits, then sheets, then all their clothes. Campers create the situations. I agree it can become irritating but so does the abuse of the rules.
yeah, someone would be "what is the difference between hanging a sheet or a towel, if they can hang their towel, I can hang my sheets" "what is the difference between her hanging her bikini up to dry and me hanging my bra and panties? They are almost the same thing"... you know those staff are sick of arguing about hanging laundry and just decided "no hanging"
While staying at a campground (Dirks) we were banned from the pool because we were wasting chemicals. (TOO MUCH WATER ON THE CONCRETE). Apparently their chemical bill is our fault.
I worked at an RV park and you are right about the 95% of campers follow the rules. It’s the other 5% of campers that just don’t care what they do and this ruins for everybody else. The campground is trying to make the camping experience great for all. When a campsite is trashed, music, kids and dogs are out of control, it makes it hard for everyone. We had to prohibit drones, metal detectors, and blow up pools (resort has a pool) because campers invaded other peoples space, dug up holes and didn’t cover them up, drain the pool when leaving and left a mess. Common sense would work, but some people leave this item at home for sure! Really enjoy your channel!!! 💜
Sometimes rules seem ridiculous or stupid. Then a couple of people do something that's in comprehensible and a rule has to be written because so many don't use common sense now. A few bad people ruin it for everybody else. I can see the outside music or television getting out of control real quick with the self-centered attitude of people now. It's a darn shame.
I've seen my apartment complex complain about kids chalking the ground and I think it's the most petty thing to get upset about. All the chalk drawing were clearly children or their parents do it with them. Was nothing wrong with it - insane to me how someone get so upset by something that is literally rained away.
However, it's seldom "rained away" before the next camper, who doesn't appreciate your kid's artwork, wants to use that space. I wouldn't want chalk all over the patio to track into my RV.
Y'all need to grow down and remember how fleeting and freeing the experience of youth is. If you see some else's non destructive temporary expression of fun as a visual pollution then your taking life way too seriously and need to admire your neighbor's way of life a little. A mark of self expression and sharing non destructively even in the form of a shitty chalk drawing should be celebrated not looked down upon. I sware people build a glass jar around them then wonder why they are lonely, depressed and angry all the time. Share your life and Share the planet people.
@@XRCADIA .. Guy, try reading your comment from our perspective. You talk about sharing when its really all about you, with no consideration at all for us.
You guys are so much fun to watch. I have learned a lot from you and am praying God blesses you and keeps you safe on the road. With all the garbage on line now it’s refreshing to see your videos and how they are presented with kindness and humility. The love and respect you show for one another is amazing. God bless you.
@@RVOddCouple There is one thing I’m confused about. I know you make money with your UA-cam videos according to how many subscribers you have. I subscribed a long time ago to support you. However I am confused about the thumbs up button. I have never bothered to use it for any site . But from the way some other you tubers promote it I am wondering if it will help you financially if I do. If so I will use it when I watch your videos from now on. Also what other ways can we support you guys. You may have made a video on this already if so please direct me to it if not maybe you should.
I have to agree with the rule about staying with your pets. I am in a residential area and there are hawks that will carry off the unattended pet. 15 minutes away from me coyotes will be happy to do that. Another 15 or so minutes away and the bears are looking at more than fluffy and fido.
At a first come Forest Service campground in West Yellowstone you have to stand by the tag post until the other people actually vacate the site. THEN you can claim the site. BUT, check out isnt until 2PM AND after you have stood there all day the people can change their mind and extend their stay. Crazy!
Can you imagine wanting to enjoy your site for breakfast and lunch before you depart at 2 and people are standing or sitting in a lawn chair watching you the whole time??? That would infuriate me!!
We normally stay at State Parks. Private RV parks only on rare occasions. I haven’t encountered OTT rules. With that said, one of the strangest rules we have encountered didn’t involve RV park. It involved an upscale RV garage/storage facility. They only would rent if you had a super HIGH END Motorhome.I thought that was ridiculous. Money is money. We were with friends that had a Motorhome that was expensive. It did meet the criteria. 🙄And who cares! It’s a storage facility! This was in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. I think all RV’s are luxury items. They are depreciating assets! 😂 Great video!
The mail thing happens to us in most places we stay. We are Thousand Trails members and this seems to be the norm with TT. We have started using the General Delivery service the USPS has at the post offices in some of the areas we stay at and there is no charge for it.
Was at a camp ground a few years ago that required people to wear a yellow safety vest at night when walking the camp ground. You could get one from the lodge HQ for a 50 dollar deposit, but when you returned it you only got 40 back the other 10 was for cleaning.
No problem for me...I keep one in the TV in case I have to get out on the side of the road. Unless it had to be theirs with their logo on it it advertise to the other campers there that you were camping there!
@@RVOddCouple use a different page don’t show your faces just say call it a rules and regulations video that’s not slandering them it gives everyone a chance to view the rules before they go. However I have multiple dogs, kids , and family so I always ask regulations before I go anywhere. Or get a rule book copy do the research if your not sure call the camp site ask all these questions ahead of time. Maybe instead of a rule video you do rules listed before you post your video explains each campground before u do the video.
One rule I disagree with you on is the chalk. Being a full-time nomad one of my jobs is camp hosting and it takes time to remove the chalk and we are always understaffed so having to clean up the mess takes time away from the rest of our duties
Yeah, exactly maybe they don't understand that the next guest on that site do not want anybody's else art.... And there is a lot of work to do in a campground, and yes understaff too and too many check ins and check outs!
I purchased a new camper while at an RV park and requested the spot next to me to make the transition from my old camper to the new one easier. They told me I couldn't use that spot because it was for monthly rentals only. They made me park my new camper in the weekender spots. Transferring everything from trailer to trailer went to driving back and forth for a whole weekend (and then some) when I finally finished putting everything into the new RV they acted like I was gonna abandon the old RV at their park. And also were bewildered that I hadn't told them the new camper world be moved into the monthly spot I was already occupying. I towed my old Trailer off their campgrounds the day I swapped places. I was still treated like a criminal the remainder of my stay a few more months.
We were going to camp with my daughter and son in law New Years week at a resort they like to use. When I saw all the ridiculous added fees for everything, we backed out. The one that bothered me the most was a charge for a 2nd adult. $42.00 ! So basically you’re spouse and everyone over 18 is an addition. Another $25.00 fee to guarantee the site! If your making a reservation, isn’t that supposed to be reserving and guaranteeing that site for certain dates! By time the listed $65.00 a night site is done, it turns into $120.00 a night! Crazy! 😡😡 Another crazy fee, is if you have your own electric golf cart to get around, they charge you $40.00 a day that you use it! They want to force you to rent there carts for $75.00 a day! No thanks! My wife and I can stay in state parks for $15.00 a day (no hook up) $30.00 a day (hook up). We have a State Park Pass that reduces our fees.
Yikes! Talk about false advertising. The whole 2nd adult charge is just not acceptable! I can understand additional rules for those that bring a golf cart, but a $40/night fee! ? ! I don't think so! Love state parks and love that the money goes into preserving them for future generations. Thank you for the warning!
Several things here- I see some of Sage's artwork behind you. I've been to a park where they said no outside hanging up things on lines, they never said anything about towels on my awning arms. Next, you said that we may not want to be outside with our dog because of inclement weather. I'm pretty sure that the dog doesn't want to be out there either. I think I can agree with the loud outside music/tv rule.
Love your straight talk. Only one strong Disagree-- outside TV/music. In another video you point out that even inside-the-RV conversation is heard by your neighbors. So outside noise is that much more "intense/intrusive". And we all have met the plethora of folks who think that their selection of volume level is "appropriately respectful" even though it is discernable 5 sites away. My experience was with tent camping in campgrounds that also had RVs. My dad would fume when an RV would roll in, set up everything, and then they would sit outside watching TV. Even if the volume was too low for us to hear, he was always sure to say, "why didn't they just stay (the F) at home?" Give the birds and river a chance for those who consider that part of the Adventure. Especially nowadays with BT headphones, there is no excuse to impose your taste on others. My $0.02.
My experience is every "No _______" rule is based on the fact that once you open the door a crack, you can't shut it. If one person hangs a wet towel out on the awning to dry after being at the resort pool, why isn't it okay to hang bras and jockstraps? If they can play their music on a small FM radio, why can't I turn on my amp and use my outdoor speakers and play my explicit death metal? The easiest and most consistent rule is a "No" rule. "No" rules require no subjectivity "That music is fine, but that one is too loud". No one snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche. Nobody ever thinks the noise they make is bothersome to anyone else (me included). I will agree, EVERY time I have an escort, I find they only complicate the parking. I had this one guy trying to be super helpful, but he was telling me to pull into a back in site and then turn sideways (trying to be helpful at an empty campground) but he put me in the soft stuff in between the sites and I could never level the main axles properly. Just go away and let me do it, please.
I have camped at little private campgrounds and many state parks throughout my life where people hang towels and bathing suits out to dry. I've never seen laundry out to dry. Maybe this is an issue in the nicer campgrounds where people can pay by the season and stay all summer. You can't stay that long in a state park. I've just never seen this issue.
How about "No alcohol". Like nobody else brought beer into the State Park to go along with their barbeque. I get it, don't get stupid drunk, but I'm a grown-a$$ man and can enjoy a beer w/ my steak on the grill
Working at a Family Friendly Park was one of the most rewarding jobs I have had. The hours were brutal when we would put in 40 hours plus on just Friday thru Sunday, but the sound of laughter, the sight of all of the smiles made it all worth it. Long term friends were made and new ones made each and every weekend. We had 125 acres of campground and an additional 88 acres of ATV trails. One rule we had was that ATV's were to be driven to and from the trails only. Golf carts only were to be driving inside the park. Once on the trails you could do just about anything you wanted, but sadly that wasn't enough for some riders as they would do donuts on the roads and on the camp sites. Racing through the park at high speeds when there was a 5 mph rule. We could not put enough milling down on the roads or fill in the ruts fast enough on the roads leading to the trails. So how many rules should one have on ATVs? Over time many of the rules were changed or modified as Side by Side ATVs are the new normal instead of Golf Carts. There are not many regular campgrounds allowing ATVs to driven around and those that have had ATV trails have closed them due to the damage the paddled or aggressive terrain tires that are used tear up the roads inside the campground. Fees charged for allowing ATV use of the trails are more often used to repair the damages to the grass at your site and the roads leading to the trails. More rules? There is always a reason behind a rule.
I agree that dogs should be supervised. Too many people think their ankle-biters and their pit bulls that would not hurt a fly are too adorable to discipline or set boundaries for. Then you also have the ones who tie them up out in 80-90-100 degree weather and think that is ok. I also understand the chalk drawing rules up to a point. The conserving water part is over the top but I do understand that many of the campsites you travel are in hot, dry states that rarely see rain. Concrete pads covered in chalk for weeks on end because of no rain looks like graffiti in the ghetto. It detracts from the look of the campground. Asking people to wash it off when they go is not a big deal.
I use to camp in a campground in northern NY where they had the « walking speed » rule, that was fine in order to slow down cars/truck from racing the roads, but I’ve seen the owners asking the wife to walk beside the car while the husband was driving (not all the time but to teach them what was walking speed)...but the management were allowed to drive their gas cart around the park racing like crazy and saying it was fine as they had to give customer service...
We spent three months over the summer at a private campground in new Baltimore Michigan. Every 2 to 3 weeks they would add another page to the rules. One of the craziest rules was we could not swim and the campground was on a bay. They didn’t even offer a pool but you were not allowed to swim in the bay.
Strange? swimming in sea water should not be illegal unless it is private or quarantined. What a dumb policy it is. It is not a legal law, not a local law, or an act, or legislation nor a federal law at best.
People love rules! Just hand the rules back say give me my money back and go someplace else. I’ve traveled all over america Canada and Alaska and trust me there are plenty of places that don’t have stupid rules. It’s the only way to get it to stop. Don’t comply just leave.
Some places its not so much the rules but excessive enforcement. I stayed at a place that required lights on when driving golf carts. A reasonable request. However, I couldnt sit down in the cart without someone from the park reminding me to trun them on. If you ran into someone from the park you could count on them reminding you of some rule
Can understand some of these crazy rules, probably because "uncle Eddie" (from x-mas vac) stayed & created a mess...lol...I don't like when they nickle & dime you.... if you reserve if you want to guarantee the space there's an additional fee (25.00‐35.00), if you want a table, a BBQ or fire pit & your at a premium space already. I get not wanting to accept pkgs I've seen many take advantage & some places don't have space or want the liability if something gets lost.
In most cases when a ridiculous rule is in place it is generally in reaction to a problem that happened once. Someone took advantage of a courtesy or caused a problem. Like the old saying, "someone has to ruin it for everyone".
8 years of working in an RV park- you are right on the money!
I believe that with all the crazies out there, folks do not need to know my name, unless I volunteer it. If the park is so bent on tags, just wear one with an assigned number on it. Too much information for the public is NOT ok. Especially if you are a solo female!
Thank you Judy! 😊👍
Exactly. You'd think wrist bracelets would be sufficient like the ones they give you for water parks and zip lining, if there really was an issue with non-customers coming into the park.
No way am I going to wear a prison number or name tag. I would leave that park there are other more obliging and comfortable parks. I want some rules because people take advantage and run rampant. Loud crazy music continuously cursing and disrespectful behavior. No one should know your name unless you want them to. Most RVERS know the common sense rules of camping. 1. Don’t walk through someone else’s camping site. 2. Pick up your camping site (leave it cleaner than when you found it) 3. No loud talking or music especially after 10pm. (Most National and State parks have this rule, you will be escorted out of the park if not complied with) 4. Don’t feed the animals( skunks will come to your site looking for food) it’s not very pleasant believe me) we had a bear arrived at night people next to us left out can of nuts. Demolished their cooler left under their Rv.
@@tallgirlhappyme there really is an issue with non RVers coming in to the park. These thugs trashed the bathrooms now they are locked with number key locks. The thugs also come in to the park and steal grills your camping chairs anything left outside your RV’s. Look for fencing around park little safer. Sad but very true. Our friend had their bicycles stolen while at a restaurant. (Locked on back of RV) now they have their bicycles locked in their truck bed.
A high number such as 7142980 lol
Dogs should be supervised when outside - period. I had my dog nearly attacked (while walking on a leash) by a dog tethered to a dog bed. He ran at my dog (carrying the bed behind him) and jumped at me and my dog. The owners were very apologetic and said their dog would not have harmed - just played. Their dog - 50 pounds... my dog 5 pounds. I don’t think so. I wouldn’t leave mine outside for fear of other animals (not only dogs) attacking her. I just don’t think this is a bad rule. Should be applied to small children as well.
You bring up a good point. Even when fenced in they can get away.
I really enjoy your channel and thank you for the reply. I would never leave my little fur baby alone outside. I feel supervision protects both dogs!
Thank you ☺️
Good point. A pet that is leashed is vulnerable. Better to use an exercise pen.
Pumas love little dogs. Same with coyotes
I know some will disagree but, I feel as long as all your laundry isn’t hanging out to dry, you should be allowed to let towels and swimming apparel dry outside.👍🏻🙏🏻
We agree!
Give an inch take a mile. I have seen bras and underwear hanging on trees and the busy. Looks very trashy. The parks have to have rules.
I think a lot of thought behind this one is a clothesline. If you have a clothesline and it's at night there is a chance that someone could get hurt by running into it at night because you can't see it. I have seen a no clothesline rule a lot at campgrounds.
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I crack up at the snob effect and thinking having laundry out drying is an eyesore. BTW, I am one of the lucky few who has W/D in my rig.
This is why I boondock most of the time. Anyone who would reward a park like this with their money is encouraging this ridiculous behavior. If they want to have stupid rules, then fine - it's still a (mostly) free country, but they won't get my money. If you want them to change their rules, starve 'em out.
Great point chip. Unfortunately right now it’s hard to find RV parks that have space when you want full hook ups. We look forward to Boondocking
This.
Voting with your wallet is a powerful thing
I agree with the rule against music outdoors. It’s awful to be forced to hear music you don’t choose to hear, and if it’s outdoors, there’s no choice. It’s noise pollution.
You are right as a host I have had to shut down music contests between rvers because they were playing so loud i could here it across the campground, and they kept turning it up because they didn't like their neighbors music, maybe the odd couple should think the reasoning behind the rules instead of bashing them
@@jarrodharris5929 Yeah, to be honest, most of those rules seem like they have good reasoning behind them. It seems like these folks didn't really think about them past their own inconvenience.
Yes. No one wants other people choosing the sound track to your trip!
@@RedGreyV I think they look at the rules considering only how they act and don’t abuse privileges such as playing music loudly - forgetting that not everyone behaves the way they do. The rules have to protect everyone from the small percentage of people who are inconsiderate, and I’m sure every rule is there to prevent problems the sites have had in the past.
@@DocBree13 I agree, and you're right, most of the rules probably have a story attached to them.
The no music/noise outside would suit me just fine, but my whole point for getting an RV would be to get away from the noise and relax and write in a new location with new scenery, but I'm a novelist so I have weird needs. I wouldn't much care if you had your skivvies outside to dry. They're just blowing in the wind. LOL
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In smaller to mid-size RV's, drying wet items outside is a necessity to keep moisture/humidity inside the RV at a minimum. I carry and use a folding drying rack for that purpose.
Mark Twain, "Common sense ain't so common any more..."
Perfect!!! Thank you Steph 😊👍
There's never been such a thing. What there has been, is countless people assuming that their experience is everyone's experience. I'm actually going to suggest, based solely on your comment, that I would find you to be an idiot. And I'm no idiot.
I get the quiet hours. They are fair. My pet peeve is when other “campers” think that that means bedtime for everyone.
There wasn't a mention of quiet hours, I think every park has quiet hours. I think the no music or TV outside is a bit excessive.
The only one I like is the one about the music/TV outside. I don't want to hear your music/TV. Sites are generally so close in a park, so that is a no. If there is lots of room between sites, then no big deal. I think many would agree but will be afraid to admit it.
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I agree so much with this rule. Here in Europe the campsites are very „cosy“ 🥴, meaning the next RV is right next to yours. I am Autistic as well as one of our sons and it is literally torture if we have to listen to all kinds of music from all around our camper.
...when dealing with these folks in person, all I keep seeing is the Security Guard (John Candy) at Wally World and my frustration identifies with Clark Griswold 😂😂
Lol David 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I see it 🤪
This is why I camp in State and National Parks ! The rules are consistent from park to park in same State .
Good point Annie 😊.
Not necessarily true for National Parks. The Park Superintentant can make additional rules for the park they oversee known as the Superintendant's Compendium.
There's not much they can do on our public land.
One park here in Michigan had the last rule: "See ranger for additional rules." Who is going to do that? "Excuse me sir, can you tell me more rules, please?"
@@danielzatkovich4659 : lol omg what’s next .. oh for the good ole days .
My husband and I have been Rving for about 30 years. Within that time we have experienced campground owners who use "rule requirements" purely as sources of "revenue enhancement". Some take it to the EXTREME. Example:. We had a less than 5 minute "stop by" from a friend in her 70s who wanted us to "quick met" her two granddaughters before taking them for a day at the zoo. We had heard of her grandkids for years but never had met them. So we we're glad to say hello to them. They didn't get out of the car, it was that quick! Afterwards, my friend said they had to pay $12.00 per visitor (2 adults, 2 grandkids) to stop by and visit us regardless of how long it short the visit was. Here's the extra kicker too...that was the NEGOTIATED RATE --- DOWN FROM $25.00 A HEAD!
Amazing isn't it ⁉️ Simply mean, nasty GREED to take that amount of money from a 70 year old Grandma.
Ridiculous! Unfortunately, we share a planet with rude Jerks who have no common sense or manners
I hope you left a google review mentioning this.
What drives me crazy is the " Ten Year Rule". My new camper is only four years old but I had my last one for 15. It still was in good shape and all but it was time for our retirement camper not a family camper with bunks. I will not support those places.
We think this rule is ridiculous as well Jim
Agree about the 10 years. I have seen videos where people were turned down when they were driving a totally reconditioned classic mid-70s GMC motorcoach. Those are a thing of beauty. And Airstreams that are in pristine shape - how can you tell how old they are?! Do you have to show your registration? I understand that they don’t want some dirt bag coming in, but vehicles in good shape - especially classic RVs - should be allowed in. And some parks I understand will do it on a case by case basis. You can bring your RV and then they’ll decide whether it’s OK. But you have to be prepared to be turned away.
We don’t stay in resort parks anyway. We’re campers. And we put our towels out to dry with impunity! I don’t think we’ve ever stayed anywhere with a concrete pad, so that’s a non-issue for us.
Wow! They won't let you in if your camper is older than 10? Last year I checked out a 65-year-old reconditioned camper for a friend of mine. New wiring, LED lights, chassis, HVAC, interior and appliances. It was beautiful but maybe not beautiful enough.☹
@@justmeandthethree Different parks have different ideas about what is “acceptable“. Usually they are the higher end ones, the resort types. Or the wannabes. Apparently. I say apparently because I wouldn’t know. We don’t stay in places like that. We go for funkier places and state parks and national parks and things. “Resort” would be an anathema to us. But some places don’t allow certain types of RVs. There’s a private park on the Oregon coast where our 2020.5 Travato van would not be allowed. They don’t allow Class Bs of any age. I guess we`re a little too much like campers and not enough like RV lifestylers. Shrug...
This is one of the dumbest rules around. I understand they probably want to keep barely running RVer's from becoming a permanent residence, however there's still a lot of very nice older rigs on the road. I've often wised there was a website devoted to naming these parks with asinine rules.
Having worked in a Private Campground I can see why some of these rules might be needed. What do I do as a campground owner when neighboring campers are A) complaining about an incessantly barking dog outside and the camper/pet owner's are no where to be found? Do I let that German Shepherd loose, try to put inside the camper or what? And yappy little dogs are no less irritating. One of the reasons for escorting RV's to their sites is 1) so they don't get lost and drive all over the park looking for their site 2) they don't drive up a one way lane. 3) The reason for waiting and watching (beside stopping campers from backing into a tree, or utility post) is to prevent fighting. Fights break out between spouses while parking, but more often while parking, the lane is blocked when someone else tries to drive to their site and they have to wait during the parking event to clear the lane. People get impatient, try to "help" the parking camper and fights can ensue. Having an employee there can help prevent this by expediting the parking event and asking the waiting party to be respectful and tolerant. B) If I'm sitting in a hot tub with a mask on and some other guest comes in without a mask, then I'm leaving - I don't want to catch Covid-period. And I don't want you to catch it from me or anyone else. C) I agree a "packet" of rules is odd. But as a guest, if you can't live with ( or insist on ridiculing) the rules - . What I'm saying is the campground is private, and even though you are an invited paying guest, rules are there for a reason (safety, respect of other guests, and enjoyment of the facilities, etc). As a former campground employee and a life long camper I know why everyone of those rules are there. Enforcing the rules is difficult - fines are a deterrent and kicking out guests is a punishment. Liability insurance is ridiculously expensive and some rules are requested by insurance agents to help keep the premium costs down and lawsuits to a minimum. Welcome to modern society...
Here's my question, you own a RV and you're traveling with 3 big dogs, have you lost your mind?
Thanks for these comments. I treat private campgrounds basically the same as HOAs. It's your choice if you want to go there, but if you do, you have to play by the rules; some people like HOAs for a certain guaranteed "feel" of the community but many don't because of the stringent rules that restrict freedom (to each their own) - it's what you signed up for. The only thing that would bother me is if these rule sheets are sprung on you out of nowhere as you check-in, had no knowledge they existed, and they were not posted anywhere on the campground's website or literature.
Name tags are a bad idea..HEY SAGE ,..COME HELP ME FIND MY CAT..I don't want strangers having familiar access to children..Pervs are everywhere !!!
Never thought of this! Thank you for the awareness 👍
At one of the RV basic courses I attended during the training on security they pointed out how so many RVers set themselves up by putting signs outside with their names on them. Giving someone with nefarious intentions too much information is dangerous.
Vanessa, the sign reads Smith & Wesson live hear...take caution upon entering if unknown to occupants 🤔
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Here not hear 😂
My pet peeve: we do a lot of dry camping and some very inconsiderate campers will run a generator way into the night or crank it up at the crack of dawn. Hate the noise, we camp to enjoy the piece and quite, not to listen to an engine running all the time.
You’ll love these... all of these rules are from the same park.
1. Flame from campfire cannot reach more than 18 inches from the ground at any time.
2. You must pay extra $8.00 per person to use the pool at the time of entrance to pool. If you leave the pool area and come back in you must pay a re entry fee.
3. You can only grill out with the persons in your own camper. You may not grill out with persons from another camper.
4. You must pay a fee to use the public shower. (The owner will come unlock it for you and wait at the door for you to finish and lock it back up).
5. You can only walk your dog on your own lot.
6. You must pay $10.00 per person for guests and they can only stay for 3 hours. Guests wanting to use the pool will also have to pay the $8.00 pool fee.
That’s all I can remember off the top of my head.
Lmao 😂 We just added to our “Dumb Rules” list Lisa... Thank you 😊
Now THOSE ARE some crazy foolish rules! LoL... I'd be out of that place in a heartbeat.
You forgot to mention the name of this park so that we can avoid them
It’s almost like they don’t want your business
That is absolutely nutd
Headphones are a must for music and tv
THANK YOU! I can handle most radios (no rap please). The "let's gather round the TV and watch a football game" drives me nuts.
Here's your badge," badges I don't need no stink badges.
I'm going to make it a point to read the rules online before if book a spot after seeing this video
Perfect Janet 👍👍👍 Always a good idea
I always read rules on line before booking. Some parks do not allow alcohol>>>????
#11 Having fun is strictly prohibited!
Violators will be prosecuted.
Watch your step!!!!!
Andy & Kim
Lol Andy &Kim💚 Hope you two are well 😊👍
Wow! An entire video explaining exactly why my wife and I ONLY boondock:). When we first moved to Utah, we did work camping in a KOA while our house was being built. That summer was enough to put me off campgrounds forever. That's not meant to be a knock on KOA specifically, just private campgrounds in general. To each his own though, so have fun everybody!
To each their own 😊👍
Generally speaking, there is a person's action behind every rule.
And THEY aren’t gonna read the rules anyway!
Yeah it’s called CONTROL FREAKS!
Or a lawyer. Every dumb law ever made can usually be traced back to a lawyer trying to make money
I totally understand the not leaving your dog outside unsupervised. While walking our dog I have more than once have had to either grab her up or get in the way of a charging dog. The others I haven't encountered but do know some of them exist. That 13 page rules manual would throw me, by the time you get through reading the rules you could have already broken one without knowing you did. That hidden fee thing has hit us a few times; especially the extra fee for 50 amp service when you told the campground upfront that your unit required 50 amp service and they didn't tell you about the fee. That's like a gas station charging you a $2.00 fee for using the pump to get the fuel you need into your RV. I do agree most campgrounds are reasonable, but boy when they aren't they aren't.
When they aren’t, they aren’t Wayne! So true
I would be happy with only a $2.00 50amp fee. Lately at the RPI Parks they have been gouging us for $10.00 a night.
The chalk rule is definitely ridiculous. If I parked in a spot that a child had drawn pics at I would cherish them! LET KIDS BE KIDS! :)
Agreed!
"Can't use park water" to wash off the chalk? If you have to use water from your rv, that is also "park water". So what does that ridiculous rule accomplish?
Agreed!
The next camper to use that space might not appreciate your kid's artwork/graffiti and/or might not want chalk all over the patio to track into the RV.
Lol, I was in a Park in St Augustine Fl. to visit the in laws that lived in the area... One morning, I decide to cook breakfast for my Mother in law and father in law at the RV... Stopped at the office and let them know they would be by to have breakfast with us... They charged me a two person visiter fee 10 bucks... So my family could break bread with us on sunday for an hour.... Crazy!!! Gave them a roll of quarters and I laughed all the out of the office, What else could you do....
Ridiculous but love the way you handled it Dan 😊👍. God Bless
I wouldn't have told them anything and paid nothing.
You should give us a list of the parks with these crazy rules.
One of the most ridiculous "rules" I've ever been exposed to was some manager in a park telling me I couldn't walk with my service dog along a beach of the Gulf of Mexico.
The reason I was given why was "your dog might do his business in the water and contaminate it!"
Say what??? The billions of fish don't do their business in the ocean? How about the many people that pee in the ocean??
Gonna tell every boater they can't run fueled motors or have toilets on ships too?
Not even mentioning that this sort of rule violates my rights to use the medical equipment of my choice to help mitigate my disability.
It totally shocked me with that one. 😆
I can see it to a point about not letting a service dog in an enclosed pool water, but fine to be outside the pool on the walk.
Go figure.
That’s just ridiculous Jahna! Dogs love the beach as well.
This park should be adults only park with family park on one side adults on the other side. I really love adult park no loud music no screaming children and no chalk drawings on your $150, thousand dollars RV. Or waking up to underwear and towels hanging out side on tree limbs blocking the beautiful views of the mountains.. I don’t want to hear someone else’s music while I am trying to relax. Some people if you give an inch they take a mile. Some people don’t have common sense. These rules are for these individuals that don’t follow simple rules. This has happened. Sorry but I won’t stay in park that doesn’t have adults only areas.
Dogs do love the beach, unhappily they leave little piles behind that barefooted beach goers do not much like. It is very rare to find a public beach in Florida that allows dogs on the beach.
The whole 'service animal' scam has gotten out of hand too. If the dog is something like a seeing-eye dog that is one thing but most of us suspect that is not the case for a great majority of these critters. Especially when it has degraded to service Borros and parrots@@RVOddCouple They
J Bryan. There are many types of real service animals that are highly trained to perform tasks like mobility dogs, medical alert dogs. The ADA specifies to be a service dog that they have to perform a task. Unfortunately many think that there emotional support dogs and comfort dogs have the same access rights as service animals. The ADA has also specified that they be dogs with certain exceptions to tiny horses? The problem is that many thin it's perfectly okay to buy a vest and pretend their dog/pet is a service animal so they can take them places that are not allowed. If caught though they could get a fune up to 10k and jail time.
@@AmericanWanderers My service dog is a trained mobility assistance dog. He helps me keep upright when I walk, and when I use a mobility scooter or wheelchair, he will pick up things I drop, open doors for me, or help put things in a little trailer I pull behind my scooter when I shop. When we get to the checkout counter he will take the things out of the little trailer and put them on the conveyor belt. When I'm in a wheelchair without electric assist, he will actually pull the wheelchair and that really helps out my shoulders and back.
Granted there are many many out there who fake a disability in order to bring their pet everywhere they go. Some of these pet dogs are well trained and well-behaved, so I don't generally bother with them. Some pet dogs however, have very little training and bad behavior habits. When a dog starts lunging and growling and barking at my service dog that's when I have to find a manager in a store and say something about it.
There are many many different types of service dogs nowadays, and I think it's a little unfair that you think that any service dog that isn't a guide dog is a scam.
The rule about the chalk made me laugh. You can't use the hose to clear the chalk, because you're not conserving water, but you can haul water out from inside the camper.....it all comes from the same place! 🤦♀️
Crazy stuff Dawn!
I am afraid i agree with this one. I went into a place that the previous people DIDNT clean up their chalk and we were half covered trying to work around the stuff. Chalk was EVERYWHERE.
@@andrewsaccounting I am ok with cleaning it, but the fine for using your outside hose vs hauling water out from inside your camper is crazy. It comes from the same place!
Guess that outdoor shower has another use! BTW it would be courteous to wash it off before you leave. There are absolutely no guarantees that the next people will appreciate your kid’s art or that it will rain.
I think it was made by some brain dead drunk who just lets dumb ideas pop into his or her head...
Any park that has rules like these should be put on a list. Let’s call it, “Jon Condon Level-Stupid” list! 😘
Hey Jimmy😂🤣😂🤣 😘 Hoping your Family can put up with you for a few more years....I’ll Pray for them 🙏🤣😂😳
Yeah except they didnt tell you what parks are doing what nonsense...so this is a nice video but a completely useless waste
Made my day with my morning coffee ! Yes rules are a pain. But where I am they are few but normal. I full-time RV and work locally. Chalk is acceptable here. Take a poll/vote. Bring it up to the board of RV park. Maybe some rules could be dropped -Your channel and others can make or break an RV campground. You have internet power with us. The RV odd squad. We band together ~ anything is possible!!
Happy Trails
Good Morning Michelle💚 we need to start a “stupid rules list” for RVOS and share it with each other. Have an awesome day😊
Kind of like the dress code in 55+ RV Park. We have seen way too many old overweight men with no shirt on. This is not a pretty sight.
lol! Now that's funny!
Haaahahaha... exactly! Bad enough I have to see my husbands big o’ belly, I don’t need to see all of yours too! 😂
I’m a former park ranger, and I can easily imagine the circumstances that led to the creation of each on of those rules. Park users can be ... amazing…
I think the words you are looking for instead of 'amazing' are high maintenance pains in the backside!
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@@islandgal500 I was being polite…. but yes, I am amazed, not in a good way. 😆
@@joysoul4089 I completely understood what you meant. Fortunately there is always that one couple out of 5 that is really nice.
Joy, I get it. I work for a City and we have rules and signage that is just bizarre. BUT there is ALWAYS a REASON for why the "rule or sign" was created. People amaze me. :-D but then i think, what a boring place we would live in, if they all had common sense. hahaha
Almost 25 years rv living bought my own camp i thoroughly dislike private camogrounds
Awesome! We’re looking for land as well
We stayed at a campground in NJ and we had our grandson with us. My daughter came to pick him up to take him home and they charged $8 for her to pull her car into the visitor's parking, walk to our camper and pick up her son. Absolutely ridiculous!
This is the situation for when we camp at state parks in North Carolina. Every car into the park has a usage fee, so it's $7 per car. Most of the camp sites are too far to walk from the front, so parking up front and walking in would be difficult.
As a solo full timer, I’m ok with help getting into a site, the extra eyes are helpful. But I am with you, don’t tell me how to drive. I have driven large oversized semi’s and trailers, so I know how to drive. But that is my experience. There is a lot of people who never driven anything beyond a sedan, who went out and bought a large C, or A and don’t know how to drive them. Or worst, those who never learned how to handle a trailer. Resorts are getting tighter and tighter, rigs are larger and larger. The chance of impact is greater. I have heard stories and I believe you even had some experience in this (hint, hint) of damage caused to other people’s property due to impacts. It does not take much to severally damage rv’s. So I can understand that to a point.
As far as towels outside, I hang mine over my outside mirror. If they say anything, “Sorry, I was washing my windows and left it outside”. Ends all arguments. The flags, hang them on the inside on the windshield, inside, my choice. You have no say what I hang inside my trailer. Just be creative, but respectful. How would you like to be treated? And no, “do onto them before they do onto you” is stupid! RESPECT!
The best way to combat rule nazi’s is by our purchasing and reviews. If you don’t like it, don’t stay. Your dollar rules. It is their private property, they are allowed to have rules as long as they don’t infringe on our basic rights. Have a bad experience at a resort, post it, warn others. Have a great experience, post it, reward the resort.
Catching back up with you, went through hell these last several months battling my now X. But moving forward. Great content!
Glad your back JD 👍😊 thank you for sharing your thoughts. Vote with your dollars!!! Exactly
We've been RVing now for about eight years. From two tagalongs, a fifth wheel, and now a class A and we've never stayed at a "resort". We love COE's and state parks but of course there is downside there also with the necessary existing rules not being enforced. We've noticed it more this year with all the newer RVers. Walking through our site, dogs running loose and owners not cleaning up after their dogs. Glad I found your channel, I'll check out the rest of your videos soon.
Just goes to show the difference of when I started RVing in the 70’s to today. We were never given any rules at a park or campground. We also didn’t experience any behavior that would cause a place to post rules.
I guess people were just nicer and more mature campers back in those days.
So true Arthur! Back in the day when most had manners and common sense 😊
I'm a product of the 60's and 70's and didn't have a lick of sense back then. I'm better now.....I hope.
naw 70's just as crazy was told to wear a swimming cap because hair was long at campground pool I was a twelve year old boy who grew up in the water never wore a cap in my entire pool experience. All us kids had long hair in the 70's. I didn't wear that cap and staid in pool ignoring the crazy campground lady and so did my brothers.
I agree some rules are over the top , but I also understand why some of them are there. Jo-Ann and I are full time RVers / Workcampers. We've had guest bring amplifiers to the campground and hook their TV's and Radios up to it and blast it throughout the campground when others were trying to sleep ( even after quiet hours ) , or just relax and read a book.
The reason for no TV's or Radios outside the RV is because others have ruined it for you. Instead of just playing their music or TV loud enough for them to hear , they play it loud enough for everyone to hear. ( It's a campground , not a concert ). Not everyone likes your taste in music or TV shows , some people just want to enjoy the quiet and read a book or relax, etc. When you're in a campground your parked pretty close to your neighbor , so you have to be especially aware of that and not invade their privacy or peace.
Makes sense. There’s a rude inconsiderate person behind most rules. They minority wreck it for the majority
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This year we had a father in the road right behind our RV batting a baseball to his son. He was literally right behind our RV batting the ball towards our RV. We had another family playing volley ball between our sight and theirs , just a couple of feet from our slideout. We were in Cannonville, Utah , where in the heck would we get a broken window replaced?
As for drying towels. Most campgrounds ( including the ones we've worked at ) just don't want anything tied to their trees because their trees have been damaged. But I've never seen them complain if someone was drying their towels or clothes on their own drying racks.
We stayed at a campground that had the spots so close together that the guy behind me got parked and there was barely room to walk between the bumper of his camper and mine. On the side of me when that guy opened his slide it almost encroached into my camp spot.
Nope, you guys as always are spot on and calling it HOA nightmarishness is about right.
It really does sound like an HOA! lol
I don't think that campers in a campground should play music or tv outside. We were camping one time and these people watched a movie from 9-midnight and they were inside but the outside speakers were playing the movie. I eventually bknocked on the door asked them to check the sound.
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On the name tag....I would register under the name, Dick Hertz. Lol. That'll teach them.
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How about Ben Dover?
@@kellykramer2582 Peter Gozinya
Buster Hyman 😂
Mike Hunt, Harry Balsak
I have been full timing in RV parks for almost 5 years so:
- The pets being left alone outside rule is pretty common.
- My current RV park has a rule that you can't lock the bathroom stall doors from the inside and crawl under the door.
- This one RV park has some doozies: Dogs are not allowed on ANY grass except your own site or dog park. You will be fined 50 bucks for moving your picnic table. You are NEVER allowed to switch RV sites.
- One RV park must assist you in parking your RV. It must be perfectly straight in the site.
Behind every rule, there’s a Jerk but parking straight.? Ridiculous
Insane rules come because there are RVers who don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves, thus creating rules for everyone no matter who you are.
Which brings to mind the question... which came first- the rude camper or the dumb rule?
@@RVOddCouple - I would bet that it's a mix with about 70% begun rude campers.
That aside we all have our differences and likes/dislikes. We should all strive to be patient with others. We've been to crazy ones where we couldn't have anything on the lawn, even though each site easily had 20,000 square feet of open space around them and only a tiny concrete pad. We've also been to a place with the only rule being, "be nice".
@@RVOddCouple 99 percent of the time it was the rude camper unless the owner had worked at another campground before creating their own, then had the insight to nip the bad behavior to begin with. Yes, there are some very crazy rules out there, but chances are there is a reason why they are there. You as a camper are only concerned about your stay at the campground. The camp host or owners are concerned about the stay of all of their guests. The question to really ask and yes even laugh about is Why this rule had to be included in the first place.
When i was a kid we stayed at a place that i think was called Rickets Glen, and WOW! We stayed at s whole lot of campgrounds in a whole lot of states, but this place was ridiculous.
You could only set up your tent on tent specific designated spots, they wanted you to keep off the grass, you weren’t aloud to use any rope to hang your laundry or hang any tarps/lanterns, and you weren’t aloud to pickup or move any rocks.
It was super super weird.
No other campground we ever stayed at was as uptight and crazy as that one was. Lol
The dog one is absolutely NOT dumb! If your dog was ever to get off leashe or out of the gate and attacks another dog/person is why they have that rule. Just earlier this year I was attacked by a dog that got out of its " secure gate" and had to go to the ER. Keep your dog with you so that if escape accidents happen (& they will) you are there to prevent a trip to the ER.
We agree! Glad you were OK Traci
2020 was our first year of RVing. EVERY place we stayed had at least one RV with a pack of barking dogs. A really elderly couple had several dogs and would bring them outside, two at a time, and place them in cages, left in the sun, with no water. They barked at everything and everyone while the couple stayed inside in the Air conditioning. Every few hours, they would let two dogs out of the cages, which desperately used the bathroom immediately, and the couple would bring out two more dogs and place them in the cages for the next 3 to 4 hours. For the entire four days, the only time we saw the couple, was when they were swapping out dogs. They had a large class A and they looked to be in their 80s. They spent the entire time inside, except to swap out dogs in the cages. I knew those dogs were suffering in the heat and needed water. I regret not reporting them, but we were new to RVing and didn't want to start off like a couple of Karens. I think the park had a two dog limit and this couple apparently could not handle having all their dogs inside at once, so they would put them outside, two at a time. They got away with this for the entire four days we were there, and they were directly across the street from us. Our dog does not bark or get excited about other dogs, so he would quietly lay next to us outside while the neighbor's dogs barked incessantly from their cages. Sometimes they would get tired of barking, but as soon as we or our dog, moved for any reason, it would trigger the other dogs to bark again. I was afraid to get up for a cold drink because I knew those dogs would bark for 15 to 30 minutes if I got up. It was maddening and a miserable experience.
Yikes... Skippy is an outside dog but a cage and no water! That stinks! Poor dogs. Makes you wonder how many dogs they had.
Why did you not list the name of the campgrounds so people can avoid these places and force them to rethink their policies?
We didn't want to bad mouth them but you bring up a great point! Thanks for the feedback.
Reveal the names please. You’re providing us all a service to guide our future camping choices. Tks
You should post the names and addresses of the campgrounds. You're not badmouthing them, they brought most of the criticism on with their nazi management policies.
Now that makes me laugh: Hitler running an RV park. I bet he'll make everyone stand outside their door and scream "heil Hitler!" eveeerrrry morning or get a fine!
Providing names could open you up to a law suite.
@@auroranite I'll answer. Every damn one of them! Best stay at state and community parks. Stay away from parks close to cities. YOU are prime targets for commuting thugs. Buy a National Park Pas that give discounts to some campgrounds and all National Monument's.
Regarding the chalk, I never heard that 1 before, BUT I do like it. Regarding pets. I won't book a campground that allows pets outside the RV. I got bit once (never saw the dog hiding behind an evergreen) by a dog that was loose. I had 12 stitches to close the wound. When I returned from the hospital I told the owners, this can go one of 2 ways, either I kill the dog or have it taken care of by a vet, They did neither, they left, I sued, won and it cost them a LOT of $$ and the dog was put away.
I try not to stay in a campground if I can help it. Boondocking is my friend. My class C was converted to 4 wheel drive, so now I stay as far away from others as possible.
To each there own 😊
The dumest thing we run in to a park is you must wear a mask everywhere in the park even if your inside your RV, it's a good thing I called before we went so DID NOT stoped but wanting us to wear inside was out of hand.
That is ridiculous
Nuts isn’t it!
Sounds like Minnesota state employee must wear mask on zoom calls.
@@MLMWarriors Well now the recommendation is to wear them in your own HOME if you aren't 6 feet from others. Would a cpap mask count worn in bed next to your spouse or do you have to sleep head to foot or in separate rooms?
I'm building a park in Alabama and I've been collecting rules and maps from all the parks I visit for ideas. This was very helpful!
I am all for no TV or music outside...when I go camping I want to hear nature not someone's noise...
We keep our music low and have asked neighbors if it bothers them. Simple manners and consideration of others 👍😊
@@RVOddCouple Low music I can handle.. but as I said somewhere here... the “GAME” up loud with crazy yelling fans is over the top!
We always get stuck with the guy that thinks everyone in the campground wants to hear his music all day and night.
@@RVOddCouple Most people will say it doesn't bother them because most people that ask aren't actually interested in the answer. They just want to be able to say that they asked and know that the other person will say they aren't bothered in the interest of preserving neighborly relations. Leave the music off.
I don’t want to listen to children screaming either, but it’s a park and people are trying to have fun. If your idea of fun doesn’t include hearing other people then perhaps a campground isn’t the best choice for you. In two years of full timing I’ve spent more time listening to campground employees operating mowers, power tools, etc. than other people’s music. The rules should be what the LAWS are, there is no need for additional restrictions on people’s freedoms.... Karen
I feel like I’ve seen the people who caused all these rules, lol. We’re staying at a rv park right now where yesterday there were 10 bras hanging outside the back of a camper drying. Been to parks several times where people are playing super loud music that is annoying others. People always push the boundaries until you just have to say no this, or that...
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Were all the bras the same size, color, and style?
If your traveling with a tailwind hang the bras on your antenna and door handles and you'll get better fuel mileage! Think of it as unfurling a sail.
I can understand to rule against loud music. But I couldn't care less about the bras.
Bras are destroying America, best to allow America to sag.
I understand the rule about not leaving your dog outside or having your dog outside with you in Arizona. I have a friend that traveled with 5 yorkies and they were in a pen outside with her when a rattlesnake struck one. She rushed it to an emergency vet. When she came back, one of the others wasn't acting right. She took it to the vet and when it was shaved, found that it had been struck too. Both of those dogs died. When she returned to her spot the snake was coiled up under her trailer. This was in an RV Park not a boondock site. Be careful out there. It could have happened to a child too.
Oh no! Thank you for the warning Barbara 👍
Omg that's so scary. Me and my husband was living at a campground. One day he was cutting grass and I left up the tarp outside. I was already thinking a snake might be under it. Sure enough, a copperhead came out. So now a year later we are now living in a mobile home. I seen a copperhead in a yard 2 houses down from me. Then a snake cross over my 19 yr old daughter foot. Then early one morning my grown son was standing beside my truck. And he looked down and seen a black snake, it had a lighter pattern on it. He took a video to show me. It had its mouth open. We have ALOT of pine trees and leaves. I'm so scared living here. I have 2 toddler grandbabies live with me. So afraid they gonna step on one or be playing and get bit. Not to be mean. But my grown kids are not very watchful of the baby's. I tell my son the copperhead snake could bit one of the baby's and could possibly kill them. He says no, just take them to the hospital. It will just swell up and hurt. I think my son needs more education. Any advice would be wonderful. Anyone out there know about snakes ?
Marsh j get a couple outdoor cats, snakes do not like them and will pretty much stay away. I live in the south we have alot of snakes too. I do not like being surprised by them either. Once while at the lake a couple yrs ago while peacefully laying on a float a big copperhead came within 2ft of me ! I wouldn't swim or even walk in the lake the rest of that year.
This is one reason I like living up in NW Washington no poisonous snakes.
There's a nomad with a youtube channel who was visiting Florida for the first time and showed a video of her dog swimming in a lake.
She got so mad at the people in the comment section who told her that was a bad idea, even though they were polite about it. Gators are so common here that I can't believe her dog didn't get eaten. They usually leave humans alone, but pets are fair game, literally. Of course she'd also let her dog run off leash, far away from her by a busy road. Even if the dog didn't run into the road, all the people driving by would have to worry that he would jump out in front of their car.
One park in Sedona required that all lights inside and out be turned off at 10 pm. You could barely watch tv at night with your blinds closed without getting yelled at by the grumpy lady in the golf cart... We accidentally left a 3 watt bulb on to light our step.. Omg!
I suppose star gazing is a huge thing - which can be wrecked by a 3w bulb.
9:15 there’s chalk drawings on the pavement now over your right shoulder❕🎨🖼
Shhh... don't tell anyone. :-)
Mercedes rolled her eyes pretty hard when you said "we are all for rules" LOL Great video!
someone needs to make a site to warn RV owners which parks have rediculous rules so they can be avoided like the plague!
We have a small list
As you were listing those (mostly) ridiculous rules I was thinking about creatively hilarious ways to violate every one of 'em!
"Excessively controlling" was the most printable term that kept popping into my head. I'll park by the side of the road before I put up with some of that BS!
Good point
In my experience, rules in general are developed out of somebody doing something they shouldn't. I worked at an office where one guy "Eddie" would come to work in flip-flops, shorts and a t-shirt. We warned him to dress more appropriately for the office, but he refused because we did not have a formal dress code. So then we ended up with a formal dress code - and it was ridiculous - all because of Eddie.
Yup! There’s always an Eddy! Thank wDave
Simple, Fire Eddie for any reason!
Dress code for someone you're paying to do a job - yes. If he didn't have enough sense, or respect, to understand that, he should've been let go.
No music is a good rule, we all have different tastes and ideas about what is a reasonable volume.
I'm kind of glad you've brought up a bunch of these like I said I am a professional camp host it's what I do I've done it for quite a while like hanging stuff outside RV owner RV park owners don't like that because it does look trashy and as far as like having to hang stuff up when you're camping you're not really camping if you're at RV Park
Right again Bill 😊. We don’t like parks with HOA’s
I was at a park that didn’t allow fires. Not too ridiculous as the park was on a windy Missouri hill, but that kind takes the fun out of camping!
Nothing like a campfire Ani
Okay...Yes some of those rules are pretty OTT, but not all. A PET dog, any pet dog, regardless of breed or temperament, should never be left out doors unattended. It doesn't matter where you are or how friendly or quiet your dog is, it's a dog and it needs what dogs need. I'm a retired dog trainer/rehabilitation specialist and can tell you from over 40 years of experience that this is one of the canons of responsible dog ownership. I'm not going to get into or debate the "why" of this here, you can PM me if you like or join the "Dog Training Help" group on FB for a more in depth explanation.
The matter of being supervised while moving your rig shouldn't require any explanation, as you said, it's a liability issue. That said, the supervisor should keep his/her trap shut and let you do your own thing speaking up ONLY when you're violating some rule/requirement. The rest of your list is pretty much a list of inane regulations which can be found in almost any field. Sometimes logic dictates that it's better to either go along quietly or move on to the next place. People after all are people, and although we ALL want the same thing out of life, some have a pretty crazy way of going about getting it.
Cheers
Joe P.
All great points! Love your last sentence 😊👍
My dog is on a lead a lot when I am camping. He would rather die than be confined to be indoors all the time. He is a watch dog that scared off a snooper at a park in Mesquite AZ. The park had only 4 RVs in it so not many people around. it was night and he lunged, actually moving the RV and started barking. I opened the door to see what was wrong and a man standing behind my tow vehicle said, "Can't even walk to get ice without being attacked." NO you were in my RV space otherwise he wouldn't have moved out from under the RV. Plus the lead wasn't long enough for him to reach the end of the RV so if he "attacked" you you were in my space, within 8 feet of my door at the rear of the RV. He doesn't bark unless there is a reason to, he knew this guy was up to no good.
By the way...there was no ice machine, toilet, or laundry that you had to walk past my unit from any of the other units to get to.
So yes my dog will be outside whenever he can be.
I agree with you. Common sense. People take things to an extreme and it ruins things and will eventually put themselves out of business.
Hoping your right Dan...we can only take so much
Every one of those rules were enacted because some idiot or many idiots broke the more lenient rule until it was totally useless. Give them towels and they will hang swimsuits, then sheets, then all their clothes. Campers create the situations. I agree it can become irritating but so does the abuse of the rules.
Thank you Katie 😊
yeah, someone would be "what is the difference between hanging a sheet or a towel, if they can hang their towel, I can hang my sheets" "what is the difference between her hanging her bikini up to dry and me hanging my bra and panties? They are almost the same thing"... you know those staff are sick of arguing about hanging laundry and just decided "no hanging"
It will be VERY interesting to see your list of park rules after you've owned it for a year.
While staying at a campground (Dirks) we were banned from the pool because we were wasting chemicals. (TOO MUCH WATER ON THE CONCRETE). Apparently their chemical bill is our fault.
Ridiculous
I worked at an RV park and you are right about the 95% of campers follow the rules. It’s the other 5% of campers that just don’t care what they do and this ruins for everybody else. The campground is trying to make the camping experience great for all. When a campsite is trashed, music, kids and dogs are out of control, it makes it hard for everyone. We had to prohibit drones, metal detectors, and blow up pools (resort has a pool) because campers invaded other peoples space, dug up holes and didn’t cover them up, drain the pool when leaving and left a mess. Common sense would work, but some people leave this item at home for sure!
Really enjoy your channel!!! 💜
I was always to believe that going to the campground was supposed to be fun with all those rules seems to just take the fun right out of it
Some parks are rediculous
Sometimes rules seem ridiculous or stupid. Then a couple of people do something that's in comprehensible and a rule has to be written because so many don't use common sense now. A few bad people ruin it for everybody else. I can see the outside music or television getting out of control real quick with the self-centered attitude of people now. It's a darn shame.
I've seen my apartment complex complain about kids chalking the ground and I think it's the most petty thing to get upset about. All the chalk drawing were clearly children or their parents do it with them. Was nothing wrong with it - insane to me how someone get so upset by something that is literally rained away.
It's so funny how people get worked up over little things. lol. just guess they don't have much else to do...
However, it's seldom "rained away" before the next camper, who doesn't appreciate your kid's artwork, wants to use that space. I wouldn't want chalk all over the patio to track into my RV.
It's graffiti and visual pollution. How about I go around and spray paint the trees around your house?
Y'all need to grow down and remember how fleeting and freeing the experience of youth is. If you see some else's non destructive temporary expression of fun as a visual pollution then your taking life way too seriously and need to admire your neighbor's way of life a little. A mark of self expression and sharing non destructively even in the form of a shitty chalk drawing should be celebrated not looked down upon. I sware people build a glass jar around them then wonder why they are lonely, depressed and angry all the time. Share your life and Share the planet people.
@@XRCADIA .. Guy, try reading your comment from our perspective. You talk about sharing when its really all about you, with no consideration at all for us.
You guys are so much fun to watch. I have learned a lot from you and am praying God blesses you and keeps you safe on the road. With all the garbage on line now it’s refreshing to see your videos and how they are presented with kindness and humility. The love and respect you show for one another is amazing. God bless you.
Thank you Tony💚💚💚 Made us both smile 😊 God Bless you as well.
@@RVOddCouple There is one thing I’m confused about. I know you make money with your UA-cam videos according to how many subscribers you have. I subscribed a long time ago to support you. However I am confused about the thumbs up button. I have never bothered to use it for any site . But from the way some other you tubers promote it I am wondering if it will help you financially if I do. If so I will use it when I watch your videos from now on. Also what other ways can we support you guys. You may have made a video on this already if so please direct me to it if not maybe you should.
I have to agree with the rule about staying with your pets. I am in a residential area and there are hawks that will carry off the unattended pet. 15 minutes away from me coyotes will be happy to do that. Another 15 or so minutes away and the bears are looking at more than fluffy and fido.
At a first come Forest Service campground in West Yellowstone you have to stand by the tag post until the other people actually vacate the site. THEN you can claim the site. BUT, check out isnt until 2PM AND after you have stood there all day the people can change their mind and extend their stay. Crazy!
Boy, would that be frustrating Rhonda!
Can you imagine wanting to enjoy your site for breakfast and lunch before you depart at 2 and people are standing or sitting in a lawn chair watching you the whole time??? That would infuriate me!!
@@TheWestlandgirl It would just make me extend my stay.
We normally stay at State Parks. Private RV parks only on rare occasions. I haven’t encountered OTT rules. With that said, one of the strangest rules we have encountered didn’t involve RV park. It involved an upscale RV garage/storage facility. They only would rent if you had a super HIGH END Motorhome.I thought that was ridiculous. Money is money. We were with friends that had a Motorhome that was expensive. It did meet the criteria. 🙄And who cares! It’s a storage facility! This was in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
I think all RV’s are luxury items. They are depreciating assets! 😂
Great video!
We’re with you! Weird times Katherine 🧐
I went to a state park and 3 girls were skinny dipping. I rated 5 stars. I heard no complaints.
I don't think that was an amenity! ROTHFL! 😂
@@RVOddCouple Life is good!
Can you PLEASE post the name of that state park? I think I feel a road trip suddenly coming over me...
@@got2flynow No way!
@@robfninh I'm a little confused. What did you rate 5 stars.... the park or the girls?
The mail thing happens to us in most places we stay. We are Thousand Trails members and this seems to be the norm with TT. We have started using the General Delivery service the USPS has at the post offices in some of the areas we stay at and there is no charge for it.
Hi Joan 😊Seems like 1/2 of TT charges. We do GD as well.
I'm told it's because it may established residency. Which is silly, you're camping. But, Campground owners don't want to become landlords.
I have had things shipped to either the local UPS Store or the local FedEx Kinkos over these rules.
Was at a camp ground a few years ago that required people to wear a yellow safety vest at night when walking the camp ground. You could get one from the lodge HQ for a 50 dollar deposit, but when you returned it you only got 40 back the other 10 was for cleaning.
Wow Dan! That’s nuts
Then it's a $40 deposit with a $10 cleaning fee. I sure they don't clean it.
No problem for me...I keep one in the TV in case I have to get out on the side of the road. Unless it had to be theirs with their logo on it it advertise to the other campers there that you were camping there!
Whoa! That’s crazy Dan! I wouldn’t like that at all!
Well I guess RV life isn't for me. I'm staying right here on my couch under my blanket & watching some videos on the great outdoors.
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Yep, and camping in my backyard. I own and control that! Thanks for your comments.
Be sure to have surround sound for the complete experience!
I would love to pull up to a camp site and have chalk art on my site! I miss having little ones camping with us. ❤
make a website of all these parks so people can avoid them and when they loose money, they will change the rules
That's a good idea. We don't want to get blacklisted but many are asking for the names.
I agree, sometimes you get some twit in power and he/she over uses it to get thier kicks. Happens in 55+ senior only places too.
@@RVOddCouple use a different page don’t show your faces just say call it a rules and regulations video that’s not slandering them it gives everyone a chance to view the rules before they go. However I have multiple dogs, kids , and family so I always ask regulations before I go anywhere. Or get a rule book copy do the research if your not sure call the camp site ask all these questions ahead of time.
Maybe instead of a rule video you do rules listed before you post your video explains each campground before u do the video.
I don’t see why you would be black listed for posting the campground and their rules? They should have their rules posted on their sites anyways!
@@RVOddCouple There are plenty of camp rating sites, use a a different email and user name, you won't get "blacklisted"
One rule I disagree with you on is the chalk. Being a full-time nomad one of my jobs is camp hosting and it takes time to remove the chalk and we are always understaffed so having to clean up the mess takes time away from the rest of our duties
Yeah, exactly maybe they don't understand that the next guest on that site do not want anybody's else art.... And there is a lot of work to do in a campground, and yes understaff too and too many check ins and check outs!
Throw a bucket of water--prob. Solved.
But they said they could not use outside water. What a load of huey!!!!
I purchased a new camper while at an RV park and requested the spot next to me to make the transition from my old camper to the new one easier. They told me I couldn't use that spot because it was for monthly rentals only. They made me park my new camper in the weekender spots. Transferring everything from trailer to trailer went to driving back and forth for a whole weekend (and then some) when I finally finished putting everything into the new RV they acted like I was gonna abandon the old RV at their park. And also were bewildered that I hadn't told them the new camper world be moved into the monthly spot I was already occupying. I towed my old Trailer off their campgrounds the day I swapped places. I was still treated like a criminal the remainder of my stay a few more months.
We were going to camp with my daughter and son in law New Years week at a resort they like to use. When I saw all the ridiculous added fees for everything, we backed out. The one that bothered me the most was a charge for a 2nd adult. $42.00 ! So basically you’re spouse and everyone over 18 is an addition. Another $25.00 fee to guarantee the site! If your making a reservation, isn’t that supposed to be reserving and guaranteeing that site for certain dates! By time the listed $65.00 a night site is done, it turns into $120.00 a night! Crazy! 😡😡
Another crazy fee, is if you have your own electric golf cart to get around, they charge you $40.00 a day that you use it! They want to force you to rent there carts for $75.00 a day! No thanks! My wife and I can stay in state parks for $15.00 a day (no hook up) $30.00 a day (hook up). We have a State Park Pass that reduces our fees.
Yikes! Talk about false advertising.
The whole 2nd adult charge is just not acceptable!
I can understand additional rules for those that bring a golf cart, but a $40/night fee! ? ! I don't think so!
Love state parks and love that the money goes into preserving them for future generations. Thank you for the warning!
Several things here- I see some of Sage's artwork behind you. I've been to a park where they said no outside hanging up things on lines, they never said anything about towels on my awning arms. Next, you said that we may not want to be outside with our dog because of inclement weather. I'm pretty sure that the dog doesn't want to be out there either. I think I can agree with the loud outside music/tv rule.
You can see great chalk artwork in the corner. Every camper should leave their site as beautiful.
:-) We agree! It's hard to look at the chalk artwork and frown.
Love your straight talk. Only one strong Disagree-- outside TV/music. In another video you point out that even inside-the-RV conversation is heard by your neighbors. So outside noise is that much more "intense/intrusive". And we all have met the plethora of folks who think that their selection of volume level is "appropriately respectful" even though it is discernable 5 sites away.
My experience was with tent camping in campgrounds that also had RVs. My dad would fume when an RV would roll in, set up everything, and then they would sit outside watching TV. Even if the volume was too low for us to hear, he was always sure to say, "why didn't they just stay (the F) at home?" Give the birds and river a chance for those who consider that part of the Adventure. Especially nowadays with BT headphones, there is no excuse to impose your taste on others. My $0.02.
Agreed
Suggestion for the towels issue, tell them it’s a throw not a towel. 🤣
Awesome Darrell🤣😂🤣
My experience is every "No _______" rule is based on the fact that once you open the door a crack, you can't shut it. If one person hangs a wet towel out on the awning to dry after being at the resort pool, why isn't it okay to hang bras and jockstraps? If they can play their music on a small FM radio, why can't I turn on my amp and use my outdoor speakers and play my explicit death metal? The easiest and most consistent rule is a "No" rule. "No" rules require no subjectivity "That music is fine, but that one is too loud". No one snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche. Nobody ever thinks the noise they make is bothersome to anyone else (me included). I will agree, EVERY time I have an escort, I find they only complicate the parking. I had this one guy trying to be super helpful, but he was telling me to pull into a back in site and then turn sideways (trying to be helpful at an empty campground) but he put me in the soft stuff in between the sites and I could never level the main axles properly. Just go away and let me do it, please.
I have camped at little private campgrounds and many state parks throughout my life where people hang towels and bathing suits out to dry. I've never seen laundry out to dry. Maybe this is an issue in the nicer campgrounds where people can pay by the season and stay all summer. You can't stay that long in a state park. I've just never seen this issue.
How about "No alcohol". Like nobody else brought beer into the State Park to go along with their barbeque. I get it, don't get stupid drunk, but I'm a grown-a$$ man and can enjoy a beer w/ my steak on the grill
Working at a Family Friendly Park was one of the most rewarding jobs I have had. The hours were brutal when we would put in 40 hours plus on just Friday thru Sunday, but the sound of laughter, the sight of all of the smiles made it all worth it. Long term friends were made and new ones made each and every weekend. We had 125 acres of campground and an additional 88 acres of ATV trails. One rule we had was that ATV's were to be driven to and from the trails only. Golf carts only were to be driving inside the park. Once on the trails you could do just about anything you wanted, but sadly that wasn't enough for some riders as they would do donuts on the roads and on the camp sites. Racing through the park at high speeds when there was a 5 mph rule. We could not put enough milling down on the roads or fill in the ruts fast enough on the roads leading to the trails. So how many rules should one have on ATVs? Over time many of the rules were changed or modified as Side by Side ATVs are the new normal instead of Golf Carts. There are not many regular campgrounds allowing ATVs to driven around and those that have had ATV trails have closed them due to the damage the paddled or aggressive terrain tires that are used tear up the roads inside the campground. Fees charged for allowing ATV use of the trails are more often used to repair the damages to the grass at your site and the roads leading to the trails. More rules? There is always a reason behind a rule.
Another channel we follow was kicked out of an RV park for receiving a Fed Ex delivery.
Yikes!
I agree that dogs should be supervised. Too many people think their ankle-biters and their pit bulls that would not hurt a fly are too adorable to discipline or set boundaries for. Then you also have the ones who tie them up out in 80-90-100 degree weather and think that is ok. I also understand the chalk drawing rules up to a point. The conserving water part is over the top but I do understand that many of the campsites you travel are in hot, dry states that rarely see rain. Concrete pads covered in chalk for weeks on end because of no rain looks like graffiti in the ghetto. It detracts from the look of the campground. Asking people to wash it off when they go is not a big deal.
We took water from in the house and hand scrubbed it 😊👍
I use to camp in a campground in northern NY where they had the « walking speed » rule, that was fine in order to slow down cars/truck from racing the roads, but I’ve seen the owners asking the wife to walk beside the car while the husband was driving (not all the time but to teach them what was walking speed)...but the management were allowed to drive their gas cart around the park racing like crazy and saying it was fine as they had to give customer service...
Crazy! Made us giggle though 😂
Do as I say, not as I do
We spent three months over the summer at a private campground in new Baltimore Michigan. Every 2 to 3 weeks they would add another page to the rules. One of the craziest rules was we could not swim and the campground was on a bay. They didn’t even offer a pool but you were not allowed to swim in the bay.
Strange? swimming in sea water should not be illegal unless it is private or quarantined. What a dumb policy it is. It is not a legal law, not a local law, or an act, or legislation nor a federal law at best.
Some people need something else to do...
People love rules! Just hand the rules back say give me my money back and go someplace else. I’ve traveled all over america Canada and Alaska and trust me there are plenty of places that don’t have stupid rules. It’s the only way to get it to stop. Don’t comply just leave.
We all need to start a “Stupid Rules Parks” and punish them!
I agree. Just don't give them your business.
Some places its not so much the rules but excessive enforcement. I stayed at a place that required lights on when driving golf carts. A reasonable request. However, I couldnt sit down in the cart without someone from the park reminding me to trun them on.
If you ran into someone from the park you could count on them reminding you of some rule
Lol😂🤣. Hi Jeff💚
😂😂😂 wow!! I agreed on the no laundry thing👍crazy!!!its ok to use their water while your camping but not ok to clean the campsite at your spot😳😖🤪😂😂💌
Hi Robin 💚 Crazy times, crazy people😜
Right? "Clean your parking pad but dont use our water"!! Whaaat???
Can understand some of these crazy rules, probably because "uncle Eddie" (from x-mas vac) stayed & created a mess...lol...I don't like when they nickle & dime you.... if you reserve if you want to guarantee the space there's an additional fee (25.00‐35.00), if you want a table, a BBQ or fire pit & your at a premium space already. I get not wanting to accept pkgs I've seen many take advantage & some places don't have space or want the liability if something gets lost.
It’s getting somewhat ridiculous...