The yearly upgrade is over.
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- The rumour that Apple is going to move away from its yearly upgrade cycle for some of its products brings up an interesting discussion regarding release frequency and how we as consumers view these product launches. Does this mark the end? And why? Let's talk about that!
The only thing left that we need a massive update on is BATTERY! We need Solidstate Batteries, that kind of tech is insane and super impressive. They could make Batteries smaller than what we have now but last for days.
We also need better, cheaper foldables. That’s the next big leap.
They would lose money if they did that lol they probably could do though
@@talhaahmed2130 cheaper foldable are last year foldable.
Maybe improved optimisation to reduce battery consumption?
Huawei, Honor , Xiaomi, Oppo are all using new silicon-carbon battery tech in their 2024 flagships. Only the companies catering to the West refuse to innovate because we keep buying their trash.
Yearly upgrades have been over for like, the past 3 years lol.
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But hardware downgrades started earlier (SD cards, 3.5mm jack, chargers, ...)
@@dimiberberu Facts. I wonder what's next.
I came from Honor Magic 5 Lite so i upgraded to S24 and that is it!
Crazy how people are still crying about the headphones jack when cheap wireless headphones are everywhere😂@@dimiberberu
Soon as they banned Huawei, the competition lessened and the need for innovation became less urgent. I’ll never forget the way phone batteries improved in one cycle after the P20 Pro Series. We also got the iPhone X a month after the 8 during that cycle cause Apple didn’t wanna fall behind.
Huawei mate 20 pro was one of the best phones I've had
Isn't the "free market" beautiful?
Soon as some real competition shows up, they ban it
Lmao
I'm ok with them ban, the Chinese can spy on their own citizen.
When P30 and Mate20 series was launched it crushed the competition and become horror for especially Samsung
@@MUZA1875 damn I'm still using it right now
Don't forget, phone manufacturers intentionally remove the SD card slot, headphone jack, and charger to encourage you to purchase more of their products.
TBH the reason for removing the SD card slot is because people are stupid and would get slow and shitty SD cards then would blame the phone for being slow.
@@grovimyboi3815nice excuse, next day remove display and say people were dropping it, ..headphone jack reason ? Waterproofing or say earbuds are convient or any other? …this will go on😂
@@naruto6918honestly, when the headphone jack was removed, it did improve water resistance. And now that the majority of the world's phones are without it, 98% of people wouldn't be able to tell you any difference between wired 3.5mm buds or wireless ones. Now it's just about laziness to not include a hp jack, but also phones are getting thinner and thinner. Would you rather be minorly inconvenienced with wireless buds? Or would you rather keep the jack but then lose battery capacity? All you twats that bring up the missing hp jack make me laugh. It's 2024. Adapt and cope.
@@NyteStalker89 hey idiot, the 3.5mm hp jack literally does fuckall for battery capacity considering oh I dont know, the ROG Phones?? We all know why they did that and you fell for it hook,line, and sinker. Embarrassing.
@@NyteStalker89 you are just stupid and brainwashed by big tech propaganda. Yes, you can tell the difference between wired and wireless headphones. I listen to music in flac format, I buy all my music, not using any streaming. SD card slot is useful to store my music collection on it, and I need a headphone jack to use my Sennheiser IE 900. And what's your point on removing it improving water resistance? No one is using their phones in water, it just bs. Remember the Galaxy S5 with the removable back plate and battery with a headphone jack? That phone was water resistant too. You worthless idiot npc.
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I upgrade whenever my current phone literally dies and becomes un-fixable 😂
My Galaxy S7 just did this and apps also stopped functioning one by one. 600€ for 8 years was a good deal
I think because many phones have already reached their peak, they are now focused on refining the software experience on each device. Hardware is as important anymore for smart devices
I think OEMs should release flagship phones every 2 years, and between those 2 years, release a mid-range phone(s).
thats what i am saying from s5 days
Nothing just did that. They skipped 2024 for their flagship.
@@praveenkanshi8458 It was a smart move by them.
OR... Make 1 phone every 3 years and improve the service, software and UI in every iteration rather than just updating a bit here and there.
I took s24 ultra this year. And I intend to keep it for the next five years minimum..
yo me too!
Same!! Titanium Violet 512gb. Bought it outright on a great deal.
"I took s24"...did you steal it or is grammar an issue for you?
How much @KennyVo120
I did the same for my S22 2 years ago, still going strong! Planning to keep it for 3 more years, 2 years minimum
the argument for yearly releases is that we don't all buy our phones at the same time, so yearly releases give us more flexibility on when to upgrade
edit: my point didn't come across well. for those of us that hold our phones for longer, yearly upgrades mean that when we do upgrade, there is a relatively new phone out, if not brand new.
now if, companies were going to release a new phone every 2 or 3 years, it is more likely that when we do upgrade, the latest phone would be older.
i don't believe in buying a new phone every year (my personal preference is every 2.5 years at the earliest, especially as the upgrades each year now are marginal). however, with new phones coming out every year, when we do upgrade, we will be able to upgrade to pretty much a brand new phone. i hope this makes sense.
Exactly!
A new flagship every single yr still isn’t necessary. Theres little difference between an iPhone 15 pro and 16 pro…same can be said about Samsungs latest s series and the previous model.
THIS RIGHT HERE 📌
When the differences are so minimal year after year then it's obvious yearly upgrades don't make sense anymore
This is a stupid argument
OK but are you really going to die if you buy an s23 instead of an s24, regardless of when you bought your last phone?
I bought the s23 ultra @ 700$ brand new just 4 months back and I wont be upgrading this beast of a device till 2029. It will be supported till 2028 + 1 year as a stretch if i don't find any meaningful upgrade which would make my work and life easy.
All that you have said stands true. I used to upgrade my phones every two years - but this was before iphone 11(bought it when it launched). After which I shifted to the s23 ultra just a few months back.
got mine two weeks ago, absolute beast of a device.
i went from Note 20 to s24, and will continue cycle every 3 to 4 years upgrade ever3 generations.
Where did you buy it bro. For 700$ brand new😮?
@@JamesCollins-oq9hx This was in the month of 1st half of January. There was a sale going on for the new year of 2024. And our retailer had a couple of pieces of black colour 256 gigs. I got to know about this and I immediately got it since my iphone 11 had almost become a paper weight
I just upgraded from a Pixel 6 to 9 Pro XL, so I guess that's over 3 years. I used to do it more often when US carriers were subsidizing phones, but now the cost to upgrade is not worth the minor changes.
upgraded to an iphone 11 this year
Why?@@insertnamehere9481
@@insertnamehere9481 how's the battery on your 11? mine needs plugging in halfway through the day, But I'd rather do that than pay $1,000 for a phone again.....learned my mistake.
@@fasn279 its really good, since i only got it last year since my local tech store still has them in stock lmao
People in America like Apple? My man when I visited England I literally have not seen a non Apple phone in London and Manchester. I have not seen one Samsung in 4 days. It’s not just America.
Yeah the UK is very much also apple centric. I now live in France and I see way more androids than iPhones on my daily commute and I love the diversity so much.
The statistics available for the UK suggest an almost 50/50 split between Android and iOS.
@@kamarae.2444 no way, loads of people use android in the uk
After I bought the Google Pixel 6, I opted not to upgrade to the subsequent 7 and 8 releases. In that time, I also came up with the rule of thumb that TCO for phone and contract should be no more than £1 per day over a 2-3 year period. I upgraded to the 9 Pro for three reasons. There's a professional interest in AI, the camera is a very decent upgrade, and finally, I have a fingerprint sensor that doesn't care if my finger is too hot, too cold, too wet or too dry.
Not only is it wasteful to upgrade your phone every year but there's really no need to buy the latest phone at all. Get a phone that's 2 years old and it's $0.30 on the dollar and it'll still get between 36 and 72 months of security patches
depends on the battery when buying used, if the phone was taken care of and the battery is healthy, then it's good
Great watch! I would argue that for a lot of people it was never really a thing. Most people upgrade every 3-5 years. Only the people who are focused on chasing the trend or have the disposable income to waste buy yearly upgrades. Coz on a yearly basis the incremental improvements aren't ever big enough to warrant buying a whole new phone when your phones can realistically last 3+ years and handle the innovation cycle
Most phone contracts are two years, so most people I would think upgrading every two years.
@@elwittinio2865 Yeah for contracts it'll be in that range I just mean in general including outside of contract purchases coz once you complete the contract you can still just keep It beyond the years and then trade it in when you eventually upgrade. Coz especially outside of the first world countries contracts aren't too big so that also naturally has led to people not just frivolously upgrading at every turn coz the year to year incremental changes are so minimal it never really justified a whole new purchase but companies got us chasing trends 😂. That consumerism cycle of life.
For me an upgrade i did from iPhone5s to iPhone 8s Plus to Samsung Galaxy S10 Ultra is a huge upgrade, then to s20U then to s24U for diff reason. I will probably change phone for next 5 years.
Yearly upgrades have been over. I'm watching and typing this on a OnePlus Two from 2015. It's not great but it's still usable for basic tasks coming up on ten years later.
I don't think anyone's disputing whether old phones are functional. But if you put your OP2 against a £250 phone from 2024 the OnePlus would get blown out the water in Many areas.
I'm typing this on a flip phone from 2005.
@@CorazónAtómicoDelaVíaLáctea🤦♂️
@@Rizwaan122Yeah but any phone from last 4 years if properly maintained can be as good as new for day to day task like for web browsing, calling, texting, social media, navigation etc it will more than enough like most phones having 4gb/6gb ram and internal storage of 64 gb/128gb are well enough that most people don't upgrade that often unless mobiles are not properly maintained.
@@6kittys147 yeah that's what I mean. The phone will work, but 4-6 years down the line phones will have significantly brighter screens, better and more versatile cameras, improved file transfer speeds, better ingress protection.
So it's worth upgrading your phone after 3-4 yrs
At this point I think its good to wait every other year to update since all phones are amazing now, one year is not gonna make a huge difference until something REALLY BIG changes things.
I stopped upgrading every year at the S10+ / Note 10+. Went from those to the S21 Ultra and just now upgraded this year but came very close last year.
I would likely upgrade once every 5 years, but as currently I do have my phone for over 10 years now. For me is like, when I felt my phone is not giving the usual performance, I spend a couple of dollars to upgrade. On the case of my last phone, I change the battery and it was fine for 5 years more.
Not interested on pursuing the cloud/trends.
I feel like the only reason people upgrades, especially in the US, is because of their contract.
I like my fold 5, and while I think the fold 6 looks better and cooler, I'm committed to keeping my fold 5 as long as it'll function and getting it repaired with my screen insurance if/when the screen breaks, until it's nonviable to continue. I still have 4 years of updates so I'm gonna continue using the phone until the lack of updates becomes a problem.
Bought galaxy m35 for like 200$ this week. It has everything, amoled 120hz (using 60hz), stereo speaker, enough memory and cpu power for normie, big battery 6000mAh, 5 years update support (4 OS). My prev phone was redmi 5 plus, used it for almost 7 years.
Why would you use 60hz
@@agame-jv6zv cuz im battery psycho
@_Pt3k_ I tried using 120hz on my S24U, and it actually gave me more battery life than 60hz. It's like, when you use 120hz, it reduces the refresh rate to 1 depending on what you're doing or watching. But with 60hz, it stays the same. So, check if yours does that too, and you might get more battery life.
@@qwkii but you know s24u has LTPO screen ? They put it only in flagship devices. Cheaper phones only go adaptive 60-120. So i need to go 60hz static
I trade in my Samsung Z Flip every year and get over 70% percent off each year. To me this makes a lot of sense since there is a hinge in the phone so it would be good to get a new hinge each year. So it's less about whatever the phone upgrade is but more about the durability of the phone and how cheap I can get it with a yearly trade in
That is fascinating. Who is giving you 70% of your phone price back every year? Is it the carrier or Samsung themselves? Also, are you in the US by any chance?
@@mayankshete6636 Straight from the Samsung online store here in the US. This year I paid 350 for my z flip 6 but last year I only paid 90 dollars for my flip 5 and they year before that I think was 130. And the original I got, the 3, was open box so I paid like 800.
The trade in value changes from year to year. I was surprised by how much it was this year
I bought the Pixel 4 when the Pixel 5 was unveiled. Used it until the launch of Pixel 6. Then when Pixel 7 was launched, only then I bought the Pixel 6. As of now, I am still rocking the 6. Most probably until the end of the year. I am tempted to buy the Pixel 8 for its 7 year software update promise.
I've currently got the Galaxy S23 Ultra but I'm waiting for the Oneplus 13 as I like the look of it, if all the leaks and rumours are to believed. Would you recommend it?
Apple and Samsung should stagger their yearly releases between Ultra/Pro and base models
2025 -17 Pro/max, SE4, S25 Ultra
2026 -iPhone 18/Air 18, S26/Plus
I'm still using a 2021 flagship. I'd like to upgrade but I can't justify spending the money for an ever-so-slightly better device, and with software support getting longer and longer, changing phones every 4-5 years seems reasonable. The only weak point is the battery, which struggles to survive that long.
I suggest you wait until January if you have a samsung, and decide whether to buy the S25 or get the S24 cheaper.
Normally I would get a new phone every 2 years as my contract ended. Phones always got battery problems and became slow. Last few years this hasn't been the case at all and keep my phones for way longer. Got a S24 ultra right now which I plan to keep for a long time. They will also keep supporting it with updates for 7 years.
I havent bought a new phone since the Pixel 4a. I just wait two years after release and then buy "renewed".
I am not sure why people are complaining about it. This is great for customers. When you buy a phone for that price you don't want to feel out of date 1 year later. Now you can keep your phone for years. you are never meant to upgrade yearly.
They no longer expect you to upgrade every year, in fact, they know 60% plus of last year's users won't upgrade, rather people with products from 3 to 4 years will, and that's why apple for instance, focused on showing the differences when compared to a 4 year old iphone 12 .
Wait when was yearly upgrade justifiable ? Was the s22 different than the 23 ? The iphone 14 from 15 ? Or 13 ? It's been like this for years youtubers such as u don't think it's trendy enough to talk about this :))
For your reading this. What is your honest opinion about the s24 ultra in terms of battery life and camera?
I’ve my 11 pro max after 5 years and will keep it for the 6th. Why should I upgrade if software is updated and new phones are “50% complete”(in EU we still don’t know when AI is going to come)?
Thats exactly we Asians do if our things don't refuse to give up we use them for decades in our life time until it stops its regular functionality.However some people do upgrade things here just for aesthetics that new things look attractive than old ones.
@@6kittys147 it’s the same the whole world to find someone who changes only because it’s the new model and people who keeps it until it’s really dead. (Or minimum until you receive software patches)
Used to be every 2 years, but I'm still on the s22+ and apart from the degrading battery, have no issues with it... so, for me personally, waiting for a real leap in tech/value before I pull the trigger on something meaningful
I do not upgrade often. I had a Samsung S7 from 2014-2020, and have had a iPhone XR since 2020. I plan to upgrade before the year is up. So every 4/5 years. Which also makes the upgrade much more enjoyable, as the jump in tech is relatively noticeable.
Yearly upgrades are fine, not everyone upgrading is doing so from last year’s device, I upgraded from an iPhone 13 Pro Max to the 16 Pro Max which is a massive upgrade in pretty much every aspect.
What are some of the biggest differences you noticed?
@@ant4686 USB-C, bigger and brighter display, Dynamic Island, action button, camera control, smoother performance, WiFi 7 support, longer battery life, better cameras, the ability to send messages via satellite etc.
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From my 13ProMax to my 16ProMax
USB-C port,
USB3 speed,
Wifi7,
Bluetooth 5.3,
Dynamic Island,
new & better battery,
8gb memory (instead of 6gb),
A18pro chip resulting in better performance and support for the next 4-5 years,
Better heat dissipation,
Bigger display,
Better display,
Action button,
Slightly better camera’s (as usual), better microphones,
better speakers
Apple Intelligence capabilities (when it gets released)
Camera control button
Just to name a few.
I don’t upgrade every year.
4-5 is my sweet spot.
iOS+Android =❤️
I know, its all good and great improvements. But still no actual functional changes. Its more smooth, but still does the same thing as phone from 2015. I want something new, awesome functions, exciting, fun. But today its becoming mostly in UI and apps functionality. No more hardware, just software change. In the end, it takes time for bigger changes to keep happening again, and it will soon. @@iforgot3942
@@iforgot3942biggest battery ever
Can you tell me the name of the song that starts at 4:26?
The yearly upgrade isn't over for me. I rarely spend money on myself, so i treat myself to a new phone every year. Samsung has the best trade in deals and storage upgrades for free. I can get a new phone for 200-300$ every year. 100% worth it for me.
Do you feel the difference? 🤔 Because I upgrade every 6 years.
@@Itsjustpinchy This year i did going from the s23 to the s24. The big difference was the screen brightness. I'm in direct sunlight a lot, the extra boost really helps. Smaller differences were the size of the screen, flat sides and ltpo screen. Support went from 5 to 7 years.
@@ChadH2023 damn man! I thought s23 screen brightness was overkill and well good for you I guess and I can imagine upgrading every year as an Android user but apple 😂
@@Itsjustpinchy The s23 has a really nice screen, but in direct sunlight the more nits the better. I use auto brightness and love the HDR boost the s24 has.
Anti-reflective screen also helps under sunlight 🎉
I am using the OnePlus 7T from 2020, planning to upgrade whether to iphone 16 pro or s24 ultra.. still cant pick one..
I usually also upgrade every 2 to 3 years. Tablets are 4-6 years. Personally speaking, I do pre-order phones and tablets because that's when I get the best trade-in deals. I also find it funny that at its core, we're essentially leasing our phones. How much you "leased" your phone for depends on when you buy, how much of a discount you're getting, and if you trade the old one in for a deal.
I bought iPhone 12 pro max 128 gb on 2020, switched from att to tmo because they paid off the equipment balance and then sold it and got a used one 512gb for like $50, still using it as my daily and paid off.
I bought the S21 Ultra in January 2021, it's still with me without a single scratch, as if it was taken out of the box yesterday. It works perfectly, the camera is excellent, 12 GB of RAM is quite enough, the battery, even if it has weakened, can still last a whole day, but if I use it a lot, I may have to charge it during the day - considering that the phone is fully charged in 45 minutes is ok for me. Maybe I'll get the S25 Ultra in a 3-4 months or so if I see any difference compared to the S24. In any other case, he stays with me for another year.
The yearly upgrade has been over for a few years, in my opinion. Before getting my current phone, the 15 Pro Max, I had my Pixel 6 for almost three years. And before that I had my Note 9 for like three years. I don't plan on upgrading from my 15 Pro Max for probably two years, so it'll be at least three years old before I give it up. And that's assuming that Apple makes a phone that's different enough to make it worth it
The Pixel 6 is still an excellent phone. I upgraded to the pixel 9 just cause I got an amazing deal on it but it wasn't entirely necessary.
@@RamiroR13 I agree. I gave it to my mom who had some shitty budget phone. I take very good care of my devices so now she has a Pixel 6 in basically mint condition. The Pixel line of phones are amazing phones
Haha I actually just gave my Pixel 6 to my mom as well. 😂 @@BryonLetterman
The Google Pixel is the only phone this year that gave people a legit reason to upgrade. For example, the new hardware and 42 megapixel selfie camera.
But they are still using last year's processor that's barely been improved
Google pixel is all software, yet they still limit features in non pro models.
I'd argue the ultrasonic fingerprint reader and better modem to improve connection strength and reduce heating due to it not working so hard to maintain signal are more substantial upgrades
Still sh@t though 😢
@@VentsislavRachevit's an excellent phone, have you even used it??
I only need an internal space upgrade and that's it (Genshin Impact player here).... I miss being able to play on touch screen actually lol.
Other than that, I think the pass-through charging feature is great (being able to play games while plugged in without damaging battery)
My last upgrade was from iPhone 15 Pro to 13 Mini. I’m still keeping the 15 Pro in a drawer so if for some inexplicable reason the 13 Mini becomes unviable I still have an excellent up to date phone that also doesn’t have the stupid Camera Control non-button.
I know this is impossible because companies need money, but sometimes I wonder how it would be like if they released new phones every 2nd year. Maybe there would be a larger difference.
Oh and to answer to your question, I used to upgrade somewhere every 2-3 years. Went S3>S5>S8>S20 Plus>S23 Ultra and now I'm planning to keep this phone for probably 5 years. It's an amazing device and with these tiny upgrades it's not necessary to switch.
I believe that it's coming. Apple will be first to do every other year releases
I try to do 5-6 years between upgrades if I can. My S7 got really terrible screen burn-in in only 3 years unfortunately. I got used to having chargers everywhere because I'd have to charge 3-4 times a day from keeping phones as long as I do, and it's not hard to have it plugged in at work or in your car or whatever. I went from a used S9 to a used S23 recently, and of course it's a significant improvement.
Was it ever a thing though?
Maybe like 10 years ago it was worth it because phones really changed with it's now generation
I use to upgrade every 2 years, I went from blackberry curve to cheap windows phone. Then sony xperia z1 compact. Iphone 6. When I got iphone 6 it felt amazing and speedy. Samsung S8 was futuristic and very cool. S10 plus was all screen and sexy. S21 plus was boring but very good. S23 ultra is just a nice note phone.
I feel iphone 6 was all the power I needed, S8 was all the eye candy I needed. I think that's where we peaked.
Now our phones are full screen and not getting much powerful so we don't need to upgrade. I would like them to focus on trying to get console games to mobile phones.
so yes you are right that we have had amazing phones for a long time. Because we are phone obsessed technology nerds we appreciate very minor upgrades. For example just having a bit smaller bezel and bit better specs made me excited. But now smaller bezels make me angry because I struggle to have screen protector not get lifted up by the phone case
@gnshp8167 yeah 10 years ago we were coming from for example a laggy cheap android to an iphone, or a keyboard phone to a touch screen. Ever since then I've always upgraded for minor reason like better screen quality and smaller bezels, smaller camera hole, 120hz. These companies realising they have to save these small upgrades and not give them all at ones. The iPhone 16 pro bezels could of been on the iphone 13 pro. Me personally I grown to hate small bezels because the screen protectors I bought get lifted up by my phone case even when I apply my screen protector perfectly
Smartphone innovation died when Huawei got banned
Like they stole folding tech from Samsung and claimed it's their invention !!! Rubbish brand !!
@@dhhlys Just because Samsung were the first doesn't mean they should be the only ones to make foldable smartphones
@@dhhlyslook at gen 1 samsung huawei fold😂😂 huawei was way ahead of samsung
The amount of hate and propaganda alone kept smartphone companies on their toes
@@dhhlys Samsung stole flexible oled display from Sony
The improvement of major OS releases is also a great reason not to upgrade the hardware. But a 6 years Motorola user that's satisfied (for the sake of example) will probably look to upgrade with Motorola. The same for other brands. Durability and software longevity are the future of brand loyalty.
I’ve been contemplating upgrading to the iphone 16 pro from my 15 pro, they’re offering 256gb of storage for the price of 128
did we watch the same video?
Current phone is the S22+ which I bought refurbished off Best Buy this year, before that my daily was a OnePlus 6. It's now my back up phone since the Samsung doesn't have dual sim slot. The yearly upgrades never made sense to me, especially after all the phone makers started making extremely minor changes to the newer models
The best recent feature we got are things not talked much about, like the NFC is pretty much mandatory for me these days and the brightness of screens have made a big jump recently, I love being able to use my phone in the sunlight, I had to find/create a shade with my previous phone on sunny days.
The last time I upgraded was 5 years ago. I’m also only now upgrading because my phone battery is shit and I damaged the screen. Fixing it is a hassle since most repair shops don’t carry the correct screen model anymore. BUT that’s what makes buying a new phone exciting for me, I have literally been going back and forth for the past years trying to figure out what to get. iPhone? Samsung? Pixel(which I’m leaning more towards)? I’m still confused.
Last year I remember the cameras and processors stumped me, this year it’s all the AI, I really dislike it so I’m thinking maybe try to go with the one that feels best integrated into their systems, as opposed to the best promises.
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Honestly this is a UA-cam creator problem. Normal people have never upgraded every year. Of course it makes no sense to upgrade from the S23 or the IPhone 15 pro max. But I upgrade every 3-4 years and I see a massive improvement in performance every time.
I have the Xiaomi 11T (2021, work) and an LG V60 (2020, personal). Both could arguably be used for quite a number of years to come, even if software support has stopped for both. I will not be upgrading this year for sure. The Xiaomi still feels very fast, the LG a bit less with certain apps. Maybe I wait for the Fairphone 6, if that ever comes.
I upgraded from my pixel 3a to s23 last year, the only reason was because the screen completely broke and it was easier to get a new phone. I hope I can keep my current s23 for 5-7 years at least. Maybe replacing the battery along the way.
I am still on the Pixel 4a. It's nice and compact; everything I use on it works fast. It's an awesome phone. There are newer technologies like UWB, 5G, 120Hz screen that it does not have, but I don't need UWB right now, 4G is fast enough. I like a 120Hz screen and want it, but the question is, do $1000 want it? So far the answer is no. Android hasn't had that many improvements to warrant an upgrade either. The biggest reason for me to upgrade, the camera, has stagnated. All smartphones nowadays take very similar images and they have all hit the photography performance ceiling. The introduction of ultrawide and telephoto lenses was nice, but algorithms and processing has not changed since Google introduced the HDR+ processing and stacked photography. The 1"-type sensors haven't really made that much of a difference either, even though I still want OnePlus to start using them. Eventually I'll upgrade, of course. But I don't think I'll notice much of a difference. What I would really like is more smaller phones, like the XZ1 Compact, or the iPhone 13 mini.
So far, this has been my cellphone journey of upgrades since I have owned cell phones. Initially, I started with some Nokia phones that predated smartphones. Then, I eventually upgraded to my first smartphone, the Samsung Focus with Windows Phone 7, in 2010.
I then upgraded to my first Android phone in 2013, the Samsung Galaxy S4. I held onto my S4 until the Galaxy S7 Edge was released, so I bought that. After that, I upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy Note 8. Then, I upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 the following year. I held onto my Note 9 until I bought the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra, the first S series that fused the Note series and S series into one.
After my S21 Ultra, I upgraded to the Galaxy S23 Ultra, and today, I have the Galaxy S24 Ultra.
I will buy the Galaxy S25 Ultra next year, but I'm considering holding onto it for some time. Now that phones are no longer progressing as they were, I may stop upgrading every year. The S25 series is a good number to stop with the upgrades. I used to keep my phones a lot longer back in the day when phones were changing much more quickly. So there is no real point in upgrading every year.
I have only done it because I'm a tech nerd and because it's the only thing I ever spent my money on. For example, my PC is 7 years old, so I will reinvest that money into a new one.
It would be nice to have a spiffy new PC running the upcoming RTX5080 GPU, so I will pick up a PC with that graphics card instead of upgrading beyond the S25 Ultra. 🙂
I used to upgrade every 12-14 months before getting the OnePlus 7 Pro at its launch. Because of a stall in phone evolution, highlighted by the OP7P's pop-up camera being more advanced than stupid hole punch cameras that are still being used, I held onto that device until the launch of the Galaxy S22 Ultra, which I still using, despite mostly disliking it. Manufactures aren't giving consumers, even dedicated "power users", any reason to upgrade more often than every other or third year, and that's really only for battery life gains. With 5-7 years of OS/security updates becoming a standard there's even fewer reasons again to upgrade on a shorter cycle, like yearly or biennially.
Wait until they're forced to include user replaceable battery in their smartphones. You won't need to upgrade for at least 3 years.
I just "upgraded" to the Pixel 8 pro a few months ago from Pixel 6 Pro and I honestly don't feel anything different in terms of responsiveness. And yes, I only buy last year's flagship at a discounted price.
There's no need to buy the latest and greatest. The people that said there is, are only looking for some justification for their poor financial decision.
Your device progress graph had the s10 generation missing even though it was one of the most crucial devices in Samsungs history as it helped shaped the phone we use today with the first hole punch display, first ultrasonic fingerprint sensor and reverse wireless charging
Opinion: people hardly use the 10x camera, but the 5x portrait makes it so much worth it
I think smarpthones are now in the same level as the much more mature laptop market, sure, there are yearly releases, but it's just a processor refresh, and the chassis design is the same for around 4-5 years, sometimes even more.
I've had the S22 Ultra and these two years have just flown by. I still don't see a reason or don't feel the necessity to upgrade it. I might consider changing the battery or downgrading the software back to One UI 5.1 sometime down the road
I've always had a 3-4 year upgrade cycle. Only folks with more money than sense upgrade every year. I'm still okay with annual releases though, as people are at different points with their upgrade cycle
I usually upgrade to a new phone when the battery gets so bad that I'd have to charge twice or three times a day, and that's usually 2 years. It's crazy that Android phones particularly are now getting 3-5 years of OS upgrades and patches these days, but the phones themselves never last that long.
The reason for the limited upgrade is because we have absolved all the ideas for new features. And the customers are quickly bored with their newest phones and are longing for the next. I think OEMs should be making phones every two years, not every year.
I have been a field rep for Samsung and Google. Reps have been saying for YEARS they need to stagger device releases. It would make more sense for Samsung and Google to do so since they have different lines (S line, Z line, A line etc.) (A line with google). With software cycles extended for years it will force UA-camrs to actually invest time and diving deep into devices.
I've got the 13PM with 128GB, and I'm upgrading to the 16P-not for the camera button, but because I need the extra storage. If I had bought the 1TB model three years ago, I wouldn't be upgrading now. The 13PM is such a solid device.
256gb should be the minimum storage space moving forward. Apple likes to push iCloud though for storage needs.
Very good points. The last two phones I had that I loved I used for about 4 years each. Probably no one here can relate, but those were the BlackBerry Z10, and the BlackBerry KeyOne. Now I'm using the Nothing Phone (2), and I envision keeping it for at least two years or more. Why I also went for the 512 GB version.
However, I'm obviously not the typical smartphone user.
Most people don't buy a new phone every year so yearly upgrades are still needed , the only yearly upgrade that isn't needed is a new version of the OS every year not the hardware
I had 5 smartphones in my life, all of them were from Samsung. I got them used when they were 2-3 years old. Galaxy S5, S7 Edge, S9+, S21 Ultra. The s21 is so good to this day, I dont think I will upgrade for at least 2 years. And If I will, I'll buy the s23 ultra used for the quarter of the price. It is crazy, how much you can get for very little amounts of money, if you're willing to wait.
Being someone who uses it is smartphone till it stops functioning or turning on, in the past I felt a noticeable improvement with the devices, but in the last change the phone it is pretty much the same, just a better battery.
Honestly the only real upgrade that’s still needed in “standard” cellphones is batteries. If they implement the new battery tech, they’d pretty much be topped out.
The only other thing they could progress on is Foldable/Flip phones.
I think the smartphone industry will soon become like the car industry where each model will be refreshed every few years.
i bought s24 ultra at release after using oneplus 7 pro for almost 5 years which is now running latest lineageOS after end of support and is still smooth as butter with absolutely no stuttering or lagging, feels brand new, just app loading times are obviously not as short as the latest smartphones and of course games run way slower
Today, a good upgrade would be around 4-5 years as many companies are giving 4 years of upgrades for mid to high range phones.
i'm using Galaxy S21 FE since 2022, and planned to keep it until the last security patch update. Or at least until the Android 17 launched (because S21 FE only got Android 16). The hardware still smooth, not the best but not feel laggy at all (Exynos 2100 & 8gb ram). Initially i wanted to upgrade to S24FE but it only have 8gb of RAM (which is enough by now, or maybe 2 years later) but the phone said to be supported until 2030s and i don't think 8gb ram would be adequate until that time.
This is the first year in almost 20 years of annual phone change that I'll be sticking with my phone into its second year. My 24 ultra is basically peak smartphone. Battery lasts all day, screen is perfect and performance is so good it simply doesn't matter how much more powerful the 8 gen 4 is. There's just no reason to upgrade now until there's a leap forward in battery technology but even then I have a wireless chargers in the car and on my bedside table so I never think about the battery even with current tech.
I used to have trouble making it to 18 months! I mostly bought mid range phones or 1 year old iPhones. Now that things are less exciting each new year I'm currently at 2 years, especially if I get a good trade in deal. It's because a want a new phone, not because I need a new phone.
Just barely upgraded from an S10e to the S24 base model. I was holding out for a smaller phone like the Xperia Z3 compact i had prior, but considering my phone battery needing constant charging. An upgrade was needed.
Phone upgrades should be every 4 year or more. The phones from 2018 still can keep up with 2024 phones and still work relatively well
I have what my lovely wife likes to refer to as...a phone problem. I'm 53 and started using Android in the very early years of smartphones as I didn't care for Apple's UI on their early iPhones. But I'm an American and literally everyone in my immediate and extended family as well as 90 percent of my coworkers are all on iPhones. I told my wife years ago that I would switch when the iPhone got USB-C, and damn it if that didn't happen. So, now I have a 15 Pro Max with an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and, because I was getting subsidies from my carrier, I still have an S23 Ultra as well as a Galaxy Watch 5 Pro. My problem is that I constantly switch back and forth because I love Android, but love the compatibility/family connectivity that the iPhone provides. My other problem is when I see trade in offers I constantly find myself trading up equipment because I don't feel I can get the same money if I sell it outright on Swappa. So, your idea of companies updating their phones every two years would be great for someone like me who can never make up their mind and are always looking to get a great deal.
Only upgrade either once I'm out of storage or broken screen. Recently went from a note 20 ultra to the s24 ultra after having it since launch
For me, there's no such thing as a bad phone anymore - they're all supercomputers and come jam packed with features, most of which I ignore and use the phone just for calls
I've always upgraded every 4 years. That's because that was the most distant point of upgrades offered on my Android phone. This S24U is my first Ultra phone and except for the painfully slow camera (which blurs most of my doggie pics) I'm blown away with its performance and screen. Dunno if I'll hold on to it for 7 years, or just how long I can expect good battery life - maybe I can go the distance with one battery replacement. Again I want to say that I am extremely pleased with the fact that I can see my display when outside in bright sunlight. The speed of the beast is always wonderful. So what could a new phone offer me? A solidstate battery with multiple-day life? I'm not holding my breath that Sammy can learn a trick from Pixel to get their camera to be snappy - they've had several years now to figure this out and they've failed. But let's say that a Samsung Ultra phone comes out with multi-day battery life and a Pixel-worthy pointNshoot camera. Oh, that'll be my next phone. I"d love me a Pixel (had many in the past) but I have no faith that G will ever produce good _hardware_. If they did I"d be rocking a Pixel in a heartbeat. Back in Reality, I LUV LUV LUV my Samsung Hardware (the S24U is awesome) and I can use whatever G software (the very best!) anywhere I want.
U can like change the slow picture taking time to fast by going to the settings i saw it on tik tok the shutter speed literally becomes to a tap so fast
@@nimasherpa2630 There are a number of settings that you can modify - however none of them help very much. They help a little. What you can do is use Expert Mode and set your shutter speed faster. This works but has two problems: 1) requires MORE light to work, so low light pics are not possible and there is no speed problem when you're in bright light to begin with; and 2) Expert Mode isn't a Point'n'Shoot feature. I really need to be able to pick up my phone when my dog is suddenly dancing or being cute and snap off a quick one.
I’ve currently got a s24 plus and planning to keep it for a very long time, had a google pixel 6 pro previously for 2 years and briefly had an iPhone 15 pro max but I couldn’t stand that so it got sold for the s24
I've been upgrading every 2-2½ years since the Note 9. I don't see the need every year personally. I do buy a ton of accessories though lol. For every phone I do upgrade to, I will get about 4-7 cases, chargers, clips, magnets, whatever.
I went from a BlackBerry Curve to an S6. 📱 When the S6 eventually stopped working, I upgraded to an S10 Plus, which served me well for several years until it began overheating. 🔥 I then went to an S21 but had a lot of issues - the phone wouldn't get a signal and would overheat. 🚫 So I switched to a folding phone, which was the worst mistake of my life! 😫 So many problems, sent it off multiple times to get fixed, in the end I gave up and now I've got an iPhone 15 pro Max and that will be my phone until it completely dies 🙃 #TechJourney #PhoneSaga
As you note, many people (including yourself) have been doing this for some years: missing out on a generation or two. I suspect that more people are doing it now, which isn't necessarily great for those of us who scour the 2nd hand market. iPhone 13 pm and s23 ultra here, since you ask 😊 Neither was new when purchased. You can also sense the ennui of tech reviewers, trying to find new and interesting ways to review new devices. I do wonder who will break cover first and not release an annual update.
the biggest upgrade I want in next generation phones is an end to the damn notch and hole punch cameras that have abused us over the last few generations. I also want more models with front facing stereo speakers, and PREFERABLY I want 16:9 displays back. - these stupid long phone designs are annoying because media (which is typically 16:9) just doesn't fit in it, there's ALWAYS black bars no matter how you hold it. overall I'm pretty happy with my sony xperia 1 v (which is the only current model phone that I was able to find without the damn notch and with the camera above the display where it belongs, and thankfully also has front facing stereo speakers, nice cameras, and while this wouldn't make or break my opinion of a device, it's got a half-clickable photo button so I can focus and shoot like a standard photo camera, and it's also still got a headphone jack while offering a good water and dust resistance rating, and a fingerprint power button that works really well). note: while I enjoy my xperia phone, and this is the second one i've owned (the previous being the xperia 1 II which I really only replaced due to physical damage that was my own fault), I'm NOT a sony fanboy... they're doing good work, but I would gladly purchase a phone with the previously stated qualifications from most major manufactuers and be happy... so why aren't phone manufacturers making phones that don't have notches or hole punches!? this used to be the norm until apple screwed it up for everybody. honestly, if google were to bring back the physical design and features of the pixel2xl (with it's really nice 16:9 layout, front facing stereo speakers, significant lack of a notch, really nice fingerprint sensor placement on the rear center of the phone), with a modern battery, soc, storage, camera, and radios, I think I could be really happy with that. I don't need fancy glass/metal designs or anything to be happy, just a design that's optimized with pretty standard features, and preferably a good price, but you know, i'd be willing to pay decent money (as I have for the xperia 1 phones, those aren't cheap) for such a design. MAAAYBE something a little bigger than the pixel 2xl though. something between 6.8-maybe even 7" if the bezels aren't too big. I've always liked phablets - it just needs to be small enough to fit in a standard men's pants pocket, and narrow enough to fit in a standard mens shirt pocket (should I need to have it there for a bit).
With Samsung, the budget phones usually sell way better than flagships because, for most people, those phones have everything that they need. A15 has an audio jack and expandable memory, but most flagships don't.
they don't last long though, they're laggy after a year
I'd like to point out that a lot of the common apps that people generally use are still supported on older versions of iOS and Android. If you're on an S10 and your go to apps are things like Facebook, WhatsApp, UA-cam, Tiktok, Spotify, Ebay you have no reason to upgrade.
I used to be a yearly upgrader until this year. I’d hop between iOS and Android based on whatever got me the best deal and whatever felt like the biggest upgrade.
I traded in my 14 Pro Max for the 15 Pro Max last year mainly for USB-C and this phone has been so good that it’s borderline boring. But I like that in a phone now.
Maybe just maybe - if the 17 line is compelling I’ll upgrade. Otherwise I’m just gonna get my battery replaced.