Heaven's Gate (Michael Cimino, 1980) Ella's Waltz
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Lovely dance scene from Michael Cimino's misunderstood masterpiece, "Heaven's Gate". With Kris Kristofferson, Isabelle Huppert, and music by David Mansfield (who plays the bandleader).
beautiful scene. very nostalgic. I don't care what they say, I love this movie
Me too, yes. :)
Oh yeah. It’s a masterpiece.
No more movies like that anymore! Masterpiece!
People criticized the choice of Isabelle Huppert in this role because she was Michael Cimino's squeeze. But she was actually really good in the part and moulded into the film well. Now that the film is finally regarded as the classic that it is, she's earned a spot in Hollywood history.
Just watched this, the Criterion version. I found it poetic and melancholic. Funny how some can see something while others miss it. It's all subjective.
Don't worry about the dislikes ("thumbs down"). They probably came from "SOME" young people who have no appreciation for beautiful and romantic music. This scene is beautiful, in my opinion, the best in the movie.
David Mansfield, the violinist playing in this scene and who also scored the film was 23 at the time!
Apparently so simple, but so well performed and directed. Incredibly moving!!!
I have to watch this film at least once a year it is a masterpiece. Yesterday at the grocery store Ella's waltz was playing and it just brought tears to my eyes.
I am old and this is so beautiful, it makes me cry. I can't help myself.
And...I'm a big KK fan...Oh, to be Isabelle in that scene!
LOVE this entire movie and it's a travesty that it was so underrated. Quite agree it is a masterpiece. This scene is one of the most romantic scenes in a movie ever. And the roller skating scene one of the most memorable movie scenes ever. The entire movie is simply SUPERB. Shows you how much movie reviewers know.
This is one of the best movies ever. I've watched it many times and it never fails to keep my interest. I'd love to know what went on behind the scenes of its downfall from grace.
The film was a masterpiece -- from photography to costuming to soundtrack to acting. Isabelle Huppert was luminous. Christopher Walken beautifully captured the essence of a gun for hire who rose from being an uneducated man to one who was trying to better himself (the 'wallpaper", the carefully printed diary). Kris Kristofferson was absolutely astonishing in his portrayal of a man caught between two worlds and truly comfortable in neither .And Jeff Bridges provides a great deal of lighter moments until the devastation of the battle scene. Yes, the ending was sad. But it certainly demonstrated that even in the 1890s, money was more important than people. The critics reviewed the budgetary excess. Period! European audiences understood from the get-go that a film should be judged as a creative endeavor (and the film is not without flaws as a creative endeavor). Critics in general have too much power. After all, those who really can't DO anything themselves are usually the ones who make a living as critics. I'm trying to think about some critic writing in a media outlet of the time about the Sistine Chapel -- "The quality of the painting was only mediocre at best, and having to look up at the overwhelming detail is quite uncomfortable for the viewer. Mr. Michelangelo failed to bring his project in on time and under budget, which diverted scarce resources which might have been better expended on projects which cou,d have furthered the careers of a new generation of artists. His papal patron should rethink utilizing this so-called artist, whose visions are becoming sadly passe".
The splendid Harvard graduate waltz segues into decades later in a hot, dusty hall of love. Looking forward to seeing the re-mastered version on Critereon (sic).
I always loved this movie. A masterpiece
I too love this movie! I first this on the big screen when came out! A very sad movie (some funny parts) A very sad ending though. LOVE this song!!!!!!
Rest in Peace Michael Cimino
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Never before has a film divided opinion so much, you either LOVE it or HATE it. Personally this is one of my all time favourites and is up there with Blade Runner, Once Upon A Time In The West, Midnight Cowboy or any of the iconic masterpieces. I also think its a far stronger film than The Deer Hunter which to my mind was weakened overall by the plot involving De Niro's return to Vietnam for Nicky. There ain't another picture in history that looks like this either, though many have imitated it.
I can't understand there being any dislikes of this clip, or indeed the film; which I felt was eloquently profound and extremely touching.
+Andrew Rolls I believe it was a matter of politics.
It would be far more profound and touching if the scenes connecting the great scenery and rollerskating provided better context. It's a shame that they don't. It's a mess
Beautiful!
This films biggest strengths are the cinematography and music, and they completely shine here to perfection.
I like this soundtrack from David Mansfield, a lot. I use to play with my guitar very often just as "end credits" piece. ¡Thanks David!
It has some good moments, but I believe Ry Cooder did a better job overall with 1980's Long Riders than Mansfield did here.
I am not going to claim that "Heaven's Gate" is a classic, but it is at least as good as "Reds" and "Ragtime". At least Michael Cimino put some passion into what he was trying to do. Look at what we have today for movies! Movies based on comic books. Enough said.
And this fiddleplaying boy WROTE the whole score for the movie! Plus apparently he can just play any instrument including the kitchensink.
Can't get it out of mind mind during all these years after seeing this beautufull movie. A master piece…
Same !
This film is indeed a masterwork. By the time of its release, Cimino had managed to offend most critics (who had been barred from the filming) and had pushed the studio to bankruptcy. The opening reviews were awful. But if you watch the real version, the full restored version, you may discover how brilliant this really is.
That is why critics and producers are a worthless bunch.
Just look at all the movies critics trashed, that the public loved.
Casablanca wasn't a hit when it came out, not till decades later.
And producers are usually the ones that ruin a movie in the editing.
Look at all the movies that failed,and then yrs later, the director's cut came out,and people loved it
+martin woyzeck Cimino had complete control over this movie. He's to blame, good or bad
"That is why critics and producers are a worthless bunch.
Just look at all the movies critics trashed." Listen, it wasn't the critics' fault Heaven's Gate was a huge flop - it was your *precious public* who didn't like it. Last time I checked 90% of them never read a single review before seeing a movie and only go to see it on the recommendation of their friends or some "cool looking trailer". Do you honestly think Heaven's Gate wouldn't have been a flop even if it had gotten rave reviews?? Tons of high quality cinema get fantastic reviews but the public doesn't go and see them because it's "too dull", "too arty" or "too uninteresting".
"Just look at all the movies critics trashed, that the public loved." Yeah, 90% of those movies are utter, brainless trash. You mean like Michael Bay's Transformers movies, Twilight, Fifty Shades of Grey, Suicide Squad etc etc? Those were huge box office hits the critics trashed and we should be grateful they did. We should *wish* the public read the professional film critic aggregate score and followed their advice so that they could stop making those godawful movies. But until then utter crud makes close to a billion. Don't try to convince me the 7th Fast and Furious movie was some cinematic art and yet it made 1,2 billion worldwide. To hell with the public, I don't even know why you're defending them when it was them who started seeing the cinematic equivalent of McDonald's Happy Meals for billions. How come the public hasn't discovered the greatness of Heaven's Gate in 37 years after its release? Going to blame the critics for that too??
"Casablanca wasn't a hit when it came out, not till decades later." Yeah, and again you wrongly think the public seeing the movie or not has one iota to do with what the critics write. Hate to inform you of this but mostly they don't.
George Lucas's Star Wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace made over a billion worldwide and yet nobody seems to have liked that one. When a franchise is a cultural phenomenon people will go and see it regardless of how horrible it might be.
Last of all. Todays' critics are generally split and polarized over Heaven's Gate. Some say it's better than its nasty rumor, others believe it's still bad 30+ years later and a deserved flop. What about the public? Well, it's safe to say they haven't made Heaven's Gate even a cult favorite unlike say Blade Runner or The Thing became years after their initial release. Where are all the people flocking to see it? They're too busy watching the zillionth sequel of some mindless franchise.
The day simplistic special effects extravaganzas like Cameron's Avatar makes 2,7 billion worldwide is the day I stop listening to what the hell the public thinks is a good movie. Unobtanium... please.
It's masterful state-of-the-art film-making, but flawed storytelling.
RichardBrennan
Flawed in what way?
Beautiful! I think this movie is very much underrated - I never get tired of watching it.
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Such a beautiful waltz, especially on fiddle.
I loved this movie. He is not only a great poet and actor and singer but what a dancer!!
Dolly Price Kristofferson is a jack of all trades.
Magnificent--the music and cinematography in this movie--one of the best ever!
Yes, the movie was long. Also depressing at the end. But in the midst of all the pain and nonsense that was around, the relationship between these two characters is a high point of the story, depicted well by this scene of quiet, sincere enjoyment and deep mutual appreciation. Look for and hold onto islands of elegance like this today.
It is great
R.I.P. Kris Kristofferson. I know many will recognize him for his music, but his acting abilities were phenomenal.
Rest in peace Michael
I never understood why this film was so under rated. Someone didnt like the message it gave out.
Rest in Power, Kris.
Thank you for your music and for your amazing performances.
Kris has got style, I must give him that
That movie was amazing! I remember it when it came out.
Can somebody tell me what makes a movie like this bomb? I mean I don’t understand why.to me it’s genius.this are true stories,they actually happened,it is much like Johnson county war.it’s true,it happened.the cattlemen against the farmer.read on it.
Here after starting Costner’s Horizon. H’s G will always be a reference western for me. Lyrical violence, greed, perseverance.
Thank YOU Kris for all your hard hard work You bless us with 😇
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Requiescat in Pace📿🕯
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Mamita, ésta me recuerda acerca de tus mejores tiempos en Esmeralda cuando iban tú y tus hermanas a bailar cuando niñas allá en la Cooperativa de Mineros donde tu tío El Profesor J.A.Olivares era el Contador y organizador de los Bailes Sabatinos ❤❤❤❤👧👗🎶🎻🧔👖
What do you think about the Deer Hunter though?
I'm 23.. I dont get why it would be hated. Its a fantastic movie all around.
I understand the commercial blockbuster generation not liking it though.. Its long. They would probably only enjoy the 20 minuets of film when they are playing russian roulette, and the last 10 minutes of nicky and mike doing it again. They dont understand shit thats not the Transformers or a hot slut in a thong.
both movies are masterpieces.
Interesting how both Averill and Michael Corleone end up going back to their former lovers after the violent deaths of both of the women they really loved.
I agree, a great film and music.
Der Film soll ja die geplanten Produktionskosten um ein vielfaches gesprengt haben und hat dann an der Kinokasse gefloppt. Ist halt kein klassischer Western aber dafür einer der Filme, die im Gedächtnis bleiben. Ich habe aber das Ende nie richtig verstanden. Hat Elli überlebt oder ist das eine andere Frau. Ich bin Gesichtsblind für Frauengesichter. sehen für mich alle gleich aus. Andere Haare, schon erkenne ich sie nicht mehr.
Glad her Criterion restoration took the ugly sepia tint off.
I think the problem with this movie was all of the bad press it received even before it was released, sure it is slow in parts but I think it has its moments. This movie was Cimino's passion project so I can empathize with the fact that he had a vision and wanted to make this a masterpiece. But that attention to detail was his undoing
Does anyone know what that instrument is with the glass cover?
*_RIP, Kris_*
The fiddler with the unibrow (he actually composed "Heaven's Gate" score) is CUTE beyond words!!!
RIP Kris Kristofferson
40 years of enchantment
David Mansfield is a stunning man.
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Hated the way the movie ended.
I wish we had so much movies about our past in holland, this masterpiece is good enough to be put in a timecapsule.
@gittar1 no way.....that was you? I don't understand what the hell happened in 1980. Could it be that on the 3rd week, lennon getting shot was the reason why people halted seeing violent movies? I heard in a documentary saying something about that.
best movie ever mxde period bob dejulio m,ontyrose co
@TheGatorfan93 Yet one only needs to look a few inches above your comment to see you're wrong.
excellent film, excellents acteurs, film qui retrouve toutes sa noblesse et une Bo génial. merci à Michaël Cimino
Michael Cimino looks like Jon Lovitz
Magnifica escena.bello vals.tomas estupendas de cámara en círculo.y caracterización de músicos perfectos
Brilliant?!? It's difficult to follow and if you can follow it it still doesn't make any sense. Too bad it could have been decent. The only good part of the entire movie is "Ella;s Waltz", great dancing and beautiful music. But that's just my humble opinion .
The most beautiful scene in the movie. How Ella could choose Nate over this beautiful man, I have never understood.
Makes me laugh how everyone instantly disappears before this scene. They're all rollerskating and then all of a sudden everyones gone and this scene happens lol
They disappear when Averil is struggling with a Drunk JB and putting him in a Cart, it’s funny because JB (Bridges) says something to Ella which is inaudible the whole scene lasts about 90 seconds so enough time I imagine for them to leave
there is no doubt, best film I ever saw, even if t's 40 odd years old, period
@koln1996 And movie never really says what he does hanging around the brothel all the time... hmmmmmmm...
The harmonica player is Norton Buffalo, who was one of the world's best harmonica players and who had his own band which I saw at Rasberry's Bar in Angels Camp, Calaveras County, California in about 1982.
IT'S A WALTZ, THAT STICKS TO THE ROOF OF YOUR BRAIN!
( if indeed your "BRAIN" has a roof?")
Heaven's Gate (Michael Cimino, 1980) Ella's Waltz
Der Kraft sagte mir Heute dass,die Schweizer Bergen waren in 2013 Aktiv geworden,als die Äthiopische Lagerhuis,mich zum Dritten mal in 15 Jahren ohne Haus und Arbeit,auf die strasse gelassen hätten.
@TheGatorfan93, Deer Hunter dull? Yeah, right. Heaven's Gate was a classic example of the critics doing a hatchet job and sheep like you going along with them. Maybe you are getting your revenge in because The Deer Hunter was so successful.
In my 50s now. Many anti-war folk disdained The Deer Hunter at the time--mostly because it cornily romanticized small town America, excused American barbarism in Southeast Asia by demonizing the Vietnamese. The Russian roulette scenes were ridiculously melodramatic but riveting and visceral as hell. Made Christopher Walken's career.
Best film of all time....timeless
Sansho the Bailiff :)
Nice sequence here, it wouldn't be out of place in a Coen Brothers film (or Tarantino film, for that matter). But a good film should have the context of why this scene was included. Does this advance the characters' relationship or the story in any way? Or did the director just want to see this played out in visual form?
Not all screenplays have to be told "by the book".
Flawed film but well worth watching just for marvelous, unforgettable scenes like this one.
One of my favourites films. Good to see the clips as much as I want! Thanks!
Nice music.
Some fool thought it was too long for theaters, so they cut some of the best parts. The Harvard Yard pageantry was worth seeing but, in my humble opinion, somewhat irrelevant and could have been omitted.
What healthy American male could watch the full version and not fall hopelessly in love with Ella Watson?
Of greater importance, the potential is real for the same plot of the story to be played out against, not immigrants, but American citizens on a national scale.
That's alright. Art is subjective - there are many films that are critically acclaimed and regarded as among the greatest of all time that just don't resonate with some people. I think these films are infinitely overrated yet they are acclaimed by many: "Titanic", "Slumdog Millionare", "Saving Private Ryan" and anything by Oliver Stone.
Michael Cimino made this film with the idea that he would make the next Gone With the Wind. That is one of the worst mentalities anyone can thrive with. When someone said that Gregory Peck was the next Gary Cooper, he scoffed and said "Actually he's the first Gregory Peck". Get it?
Great Movie, One of My Favorites!!! A Masterpiece!!!!!!! The So Called Movie Critics Were Full of SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bearmare I'm talking about the fiddler/manservant.
@TheGatorfan93, spoken like a true sheep, who has followed the opinion setters.
I'm a big Cimino fan and this movie is so underrated. Ok, so he literally killed off some animals, he learned from his mistakes. If the re released was the 1980 version, Cimino's career would be still alive today with him winning two more Oscars with several more Oscar nominations. Heaven's Gate, which is called one of the worst films ever made, is now an injustice film with Cimino's career unfairly dead.
Great film. Great scenario. Great sound and actors. Period. So real...
Great movie Kris Kristofferson wonderful to watch.
And the second Part of this wonderfull FilmMusic.....
Hau mich weg....prima prima prima
Greetings from Austria!!!
Ich liebe das Musikstück mit dem Video...(Y)
@ColdBishop - uh, this scene is set in the rolling skate rink not the brothel.
Simply...lovely...genuine true love!! A melody of melodies!
I love this movie, I had the fortune to watch the full version at Cannes
@TheGatorfan93, either or, just so I can put your comments in a greater context.
Love this !
@TheGatorfan93, go on then, name a couple of films you consider to be excellent.
Dances with Wolves is overrated, I find Dear Hunter a much better film.
Yeah "The Deer Hunter" is a masterpiece, although I haven't seen "Heaven's Gate" probably will soon on Netflix instant play.
totally excellent. j.
Great movie. I don't care if it cost 100 billions ore more and I do not care if it is considered a bad movie... I love it. It is a masterpiece.
at 2:32 is that the fella who plays in BOARDWALK empire as the Mob memeber?
It was probably panned as being too close to the truth. There are few bits of invented history as seems to be required of any settler/cowboy films. As a minor infrigement, why are the men wearing bowler/darby hats and not stetson/clinteastwood hats as in all 'authentic' films?
Because bowler/derby hats were actually very common in the West. Seriously. Do an image search of old cowboy pictures and you will be surprised at how many of them are wearing hats like that instead of the common "cowboy hat."
Liked it, but found it toooo self-indulgent.