A Korean's view. While a friend of mine was traveling Japan, he saw so many high school students enjoy playing soccer in their school. Without worrying about the outcome, he said they really seemed to enjoy. If you have a wider pool, there must be someone outstainding. He said he envied that..
Japan has a bigger population, a bigger pool, and better circumstances compared to Korea. Japanese players have better skills in general, while Korean players have better physique and willingness to win. It is my humble opinion, and I cry whenever Korean team gets defeated by Japan. Both were similar, but Korea used to win, bcz Korean players had better physique, but Japan has made great progress since 1990s. Facts are stubborn things 😢😢😢😢
So more people should enjoy soccer, and if you find any players that are good and passionate, pick them up and train them. Then send them to European countries in order to get them more experienced. It is not a 6 week belly fat challenge, it takes at least 5, 10, sometimes 20 years to see future outcome. JAPAN is planning to win Worldcup champion in 2050, and no one mocks them. Someone might, but I dont. So it should be a really long term pay off. And it is something former Korean players say too
They fail in football, so you conclude bec of corruption. But they also succeed in many, many other domains, in sports and others. So you should conclude there is no corruption.
It's a mystery that Chinese men can not play in any team systems, the total opposite of Chinese women. The Chinese Women have dominated sports like Soccer, Volleyball and Basketball on international levels at one time or another.
but chinese basketball not bad at least in asian level they always on the top and in asia cup number one with 16 gold , 2nd philiphine 5 gold , iran 3 gold
Chinese society is harsh on women, confucian patriarchy, all families expect their boys to get the best school ranks, girls don't receive the same support
@@randomuruk7230 yes australian team is new nightmare and what i notice chinese team is stuck in comfort zone, they seems dont have motivation n ignore the fact other smaller asian country make progress everyday and more ambitious , this what happened in football ,team like vietnam, uzbekistan, kazhakstan,iraq is getting better ,meanwhile chinese team getting worst
no, china invests much more money on football than any Asian country. China has no talent for soccer. I live in China and every school has a soccer field and good soccer education but Chinese just suck at football
No it's weird as heck. Chinese people love soccer more than any other sport BY FAR, and they pay mediocre brazilian players (who couldn't make the cut in brazil/europe) tens of millions of dollars to play for china. So much money is spent on soccer but they just suck
There was a recent CGTN interview with the Uruguayan ambassador regarding this topic. The ambassador basically said, 'the kids have to grow up playing it for fun in the neighborhood.' There are some sports that you can train gifted people in to get gold medals in the Olympics. There are some sports that have to grow organically on the streets. For the latter, it's harder to grow in China because of such a high emphasis on academics and structured extracurriculars.
@@alexbayan8302 Korea and Japan put a high emphasis on academics, but they can afford some slack because they are already part of the first world. With that slack, parents are more amenable to allowing their kids to focus on sports throughout school. This is almost never the case in China.
The most important thing is that China lacks the environment for the growth of football. Even if some teenagers like football, most of them will be forced to give up football eventually due to the increasingly heavy academic burden. In China, almost all parents believe that going to college is the only thing their children should do, so most recreational activities are considered heretical and banned. Even if there are some sports talents, most of them exercise to score more points in college exams. Moreover, many Chinese fans do not know how to learn. As East Asian yellow men, the success of South Korea and Japan in football should be a reference for China, but most people only hate everything about the two countries because of historical reasons, including football. When South Korea and Japan entered the round of 16, many Chinese people were very angry, thinking that they qualified by cheating and luck. And for the next they will play against a stronger team and excited, and hope they immediately fail to go home, Chinese fans only like Brazil, France and Argentina such as the strong but can not see the efforts of South Korea and Japan represented by the East Asian team.
In all honesty, the Chinese are right to root against Korea and Japan, they are two countries that wouldn't think too hard to root against them in any kind of competition. Mainly Koreans, who are increasingly violent with Chinese.
Lacks the environment? that's not exactly true. Corruption exists on every lvl here, even with soccer. It's controlled by politicians and there is no passion for the sport. Japanese players have a deep passion for the game, something that Chinese players lack *they are pampered and spoiled..wearing expensive stuff. Money given by the govt as a reward for failing and doing poorly.* it's very sad
Korea vs Japan China National Team (Total Match Wins and Goals) Korea 42 wins 92 goals Japan 16 wins 33 goals Korea 21 wins 41 goals China 2 wins 4 goals U14~U23 Korea vs Japan China Team (Total Match Wins and Goals) Korea 75 wins 193 goals Japan 25 wins 61 goals Koera 74 wins 84 goals China 25 wins 20 goals All Total Korea 116 wins 285 goals Japan 41 wins 94 goals Korea 95 wins 125 goals China 27 wins 24 goals Korea 211 wins 410 goals vs Japan China 68 wins 118 goals Korea 321 wins 1146 goals vs Southeast Asia 51 wins 66 goals
At least the Chinese women's football team are alright. Sure, the team have struggled, but during their prime they got at least second place back in 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup.
@@user-wx5yz4xu9g like i said they don’t have experience, there was a time like you said but not anymore now. Like you said it’s all about the money and bringing food to the table. The motivation is money and not legacy.
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If you had researched this topic in Chinese media, you would've understand why they always underperform. One short answer, each position represents a special interest group, the player is just a representative.
South Korean and Japanese players on the national teams already have exposure and experience playing on top notch competitive leagues/teams, so that alone makes it easier for national teams to perform better because they are already familiar competing on the international stage. We can see this in the NBA where national teams like the Spanish, Argentinian, and French teams have so many players playing in the NBA. I would say for the Chinese team to field a competitive team, they must build a program where youth soccer have exposure to international competition and giving talents an opportunity to play on youth teams abroad. It will have to be a stepwise fashion where hopefully over the course for a generation, eventually one generation of players will build on the knowledge and talents of the previous generation. Easier said than done, i.e., even the US youth soccer struggled to get this done.
North Korean teams have been competitive with no youth league or international exposure. Same for Vietnam, Myanmar, etc who are ranked lower than China but play at about same level.
I am mostly Korean but my grandpa was Japanese so I speak both languages and also follow football for Korea & Japan. Some Korean & Japanese players have talked about this issue (most notably 이천수 from Korea) `but the problem with Chinese football is simply this. Lack of respect for one another & their coaches. Chinese, Korean, and Japanese are closely related people and it's not like Japanese & Korean players have higher physical ability than Chinese players to play soccer. Culturally, Japanese & Korean men develop a sense of respect for their fellow team members and their coaches. This makes them very coachable. Both Hiddink and Bento had incredible success in Korea but both failed miserably in China. Why do you suppose that is? It's not because Chinese players lack physical ability. Hiddink and Bento (especially Bento) were all praises for cooperative Korean players but did not hide their displeasure for selfish and arrogant Chinese players. In 1980's and 1990's, Chinese national football team was not weak. There were brief periods where Chinese team was even considered stronger than the Korean national team. But as one child policy generation players began to fill up the Chinese national squad, the Chinese national team began its long downfall.
That’s a really interesting point to hear from both a Korean and Japanese person. I’m a Chinese soccer player, who’s been playing the game since I was 3. So I played with multiple different types of people which gave me perspectives as well. So one of the things I do notice with Chinese soccer pros is that some of them don’t work well with each other. I’ll be honest, I could perform better than I am right now, but I notice my Korean soccer teammates never try to outperform my other teammates.
The "China not being able to work as a team" is very interesting. You'd think in a communist society where doing your part for the greater good would produce great team players.
Taiwan and singapore also suck at football and they have more freedom than communist china. Football is pretty easy to learn but very hard to master. This has nothing to do with politics or culture, it has to do with actually playing it.
It could be the tiger moms instilling in them the "Be the best" mentality so most Chinese youths who are good at sports always try to be the "guy" who has to hit the score and because of that it makes the team less cohesive and less trust between team mates.
You did touch on an important point. Not enough playing of the game at a grass roots level from pre teen years into adulthood by persons who are talented in large part because of a very heavy focus on academics on the part of parents. People did point out that Japan and South Korea also have a strong societal focus on academics, but there's still the encouragement that those who are talented and passionate about team sports such as soccer in Korea and Japan and baseball in Japan should pursue their talents and they have a youth development system for it... I see people in the comments section saying that there are not enough places to actually play the game in China. On Google Maps I have noticed that most Chinese cities have numerous soccer fields that dot them... Those are definitely venues for playing the game.... But I do not know the reality of access to those fields for recreational purposes or to play competitive games...
There are over 15,000 junior football teams in China. Compare that to 80 junior football teams in Korea. In 2019, China had 200 times more junior football players than Korea. Guus Hiddink coached both Korean & Chinese national team. Paulo Bento also coached in China and coached the Korean national team. These two and countless others who experienced the Chinese football have all basically said the same. Chinese players are not coachable. Why? While Koreans and Japanese players have utter most respect for each other and their coaches, Chinese players are selfish and arrogant. If you go back to 1980's & 1990's, the Chinese national team was about the same level as Korea or Japan. But once these one child policy players began filling the Chinese national team, Chinese national team was finished, with no hope of ever coming back up.
I’ll tell you my story. I live in Beijing between 1997 to 2014, in 3 and 4th grade there was a dirt soccer field in my elementary school. In 5th grade they turn it into a 3 basketball field. Ever since then, we were unable to find a big enough open field to play soccer. We have played on the streets, in front of peoples garage, but it was just not enough. And because of Yao Ming school would promote basketball and other sports way more. From what I heard now it costs 3000 rmb to rent a soccer field in Beijing….. And also corruption. Recently the Beijing soccer team could be considered on a national level lost 7 to 5 to an amateur team who’s member are consists of teachers, meat butcher, small business owner. Imagine that.. a national team lost to a Sunday meet up soccer team…..
Team sport takes a long time to see the progress. Team Japan first advance to world cup back in 1998, fast forward to today, they are finally capable of taking on European teams and having the chance to win, but still never made it to the best 8. Chinese system doesn’t have that kinda patience to build up a nice development system. If female soccer will be as popular as the male’s, it’s gonna be a different story as well. I believe it will happen one day, but it’s not gonna be anytime soon.
Except Chinese national team was just as strong as Japan or Korea in 1980's & 1990's. Matter of fact, China even qualified for the World Cup in 2002. Chinese football reached its peak in late 90's to early 2000's. Chinese players in the 80's & 90's respected their teammates and coaches just like Japan or Korea do today. Sadly, the culture of respect has been replaced with arrogance and selfishness in Chinese football team because of one child policy generation. "Chinese players are absolutely un-coachable" - Guus Hiddink
중국에는 축구 문화가 없잖아.. 한국은 보통 어렸을때부터 학교 운동장이나 동네 길거리에서 축구를 함.. 그리고 축구는 다른 올림픽 종목처럼 돈으로 되는게 아님.. 가장 대중적이며 글로벌화 되어 있고 세계 200개 국가와 경쟁을 해야되고 2억명이 넘는 잠재적인 선수와 넘쳐나는 인재풀 그리고 선수 개개인의 개성이 매우 중요한 스포츠임. 중국은 체조나 다이빙 역도 탁구 같은 개인만 잘하는 스포츠 종목에서는 성적을 낼수 있지만 1분 1초 다른 플레이를 요구하며 시시각각 변덕이 심하고 개인의 창의성을 요구하는 축구는 매우 힘들다고 본다.
Is it also because of the lack of field space in China. Not many people in China have back gardens or green parks, certainly not in the working class families. Most people live in flats....i have never seen a single large green park in an urban centre when i went to the fareast
I also would like to say that people who care for your heritage like you two should live in China for a year and see what you can do realistically. I think people like you who know the best of many worlds should maybe try to become more involved. This doesn’t only pertain to football but all aspects of Chinese society. Really like what you guys are doing. Need this kind of discussions with our neighbors too. Enjoyed this video.
you probably don't know? CCP and its cronies do not tolerate criticism...especially from an 'outsider' if the Fung Brothers were to attempt any change as you suggested in China, they'll just 'disappear'.. any change in China (Football etc..) would only be possible from within and within its own CCP party who helms the China F.A.
You can't make a competitive soccer team with so many corrupted politicians and cunning speculators. Like recently the head coach of China's soccer team has been held in custody. He deliberately kept those imported Brazilian players out of the starting line-up since they didn't bribe him for the position. Plus a lot of teams in Chinese soccer league were actually sponsored by real-estate syndicates that invest in soccer teams for money-laundering, and many of them refused to pay their players salary. Soccer is a sport and a business per se, while Chinese decision makers simply see the business part.
@umbrellastudio7481 What they want is the same commercial power and notoriety as the Premier League Without doing all the work. The Chinese Super League is a failed football organisation, without passion there is no football. Look at how the J league was formed it was created in the 90's so a it's relatively young league, but has around 60 professional teams a this time. One of their stated aims is to have 100 fully professional football clubs operation in Japan. But they have more goal/aims as well, like having a fully functioning domestic league with promotion and relegation, thus this would eventually be able to support their national team.
Kids in China cannot develop the skills and passion for football if they literally got no time to play it, because they're at school from 7am to 9:30pm (doing all that "evening study sessions" after class lectures have ended), and if they get to their senior year, too stressed reviewing for the Gaokao (university qualification exam) which decides the path that they'll take for their adult life.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610because those are sports whose skills are more tied to repetition and training than creativity and chemistry. China puts sports funding into sports that have recordable statistics in success
In Korea, domestic pro soccer league isn't as popular as in China (and they are far far smaller) - and the national football league is as corrupt, if not more so, than the one in China. Yet, there is a reason why they are so successful in World Cup - its due to talent pooling.
Korea-Japan national team Korea 42 wins 96 goals Japan 16 wins 33 goals U14~U23 Korea-Japan team Korea 75 wins 193 goals Japan 25 wins 61 goals All Total Korea 116 wins 285 goals Japan 41 wins 94 goals
Korea vs Japan China National Team (Total Match Wins and Goals) Korea 42 wins 92 goals Japan 16 wins 33 goals Korea 21 wins 41 goals China 2 wins 4 goals U14~U23 Korea vs Japan China Team (Total Match Wins and Goals) Korea 75 wins 193 goals Japan 25 wins 61 goals Koera 74 wins 84 goals China 25 wins 20 goals All Total Korea 116 wins 285 goals Japan 41 wins 94 goals Korea 95 wins 125 goals China 27 wins 24 goals Korea 211 wins 410 goals vs Japan China 68 wins 118 goals Korea 321 wins 1146 goals vs Southeast Asia 51 wins 66 goals
not same at all. Chinese people don't care about baseball at all; back in the early 2000s, no one even knew what baseball was. But they absolutely love soccer, it's by far the most popular sport to watch in china.
Korea vs Japan China National Team (Total Match Wins and Goals) Korea 42 wins 92 goals Japan 16 wins 33 goals Korea 21 wins 41 goals China 2 wins 4 goals U14~U23 Korea vs Japan China Team (Total Match Wins and Goals) Korea 75 wins 193 goals Japan 25 wins 61 goals Koera 74 wins 84 goals China 25 wins 20 goals All Total Korea 116 wins 285 goals Japan 41 wins 94 goals Korea 95 wins 125 goals China 27 wins 24 goals Korea 211 wins 410 goals vs Japan China 68 wins 118 goals Korea 321 wins 1146 goals vs Southeast Asia 51 wins 66 goals
@T1mpossible I feel a bit embarrassed, but I have a feeling that he or she is a lunatic Korean. Let's be honest. All(at least many, and down to earth) Koreans fear that K team might be defeated by J team. Japan us doing way better these days. Please have conscience. Oh am I Japanese? I am Korean
I feel you china as a Scottish football fan our national team tries to compete with England and the good European sides but we don't have good enough players to challenge it's tough. It starts with really young age groups getting taught and practice of skills there's obviously an issue with this in both china and Scotland
This was my question for years as to why China and India simply couldn't find 25 players (11 starters + subs) out of 1.4+ billion people to have team that can advance to the World Cup. I mean, China is known to dominant in certain sports and so much money is pumped/invested by the Chinese government so it's not like they don't have the funding and certainly not enough people. To this day, it baffles me.
China doesn't have a grounds up playing culture...while S. Korea and Japan have...They found their way in football. It doesn't matter how much money you put into it or how much you like watch it. You need a football playing culture that starts very early with age. China doesn't have that.
Each sport has different approach and pathways to achieve professional level of competitiveness. Population can only be leveraged if they are aiming to be decent at lot vastly different sports. Otherwise, population has no bearing in actual results. Lot of low population countries can be great at certain sports with proper focus. China does well in certain sports, but their approach for football has been not quite the right one even with a lot of money and vast pool of population. In case of football, a nation has to create the culture of football first and then nurture a professional league that can sustain itself. The government can't just force creating it. SK and Japan took a long time to nurture their first generation of proper professional footballers and their local professional leagues. It took a lot of individual passion besides private initiatives. Not just bringing talents from other countries, but also sending their youth to learn with the best. For instance, Zico was really important for Japanese football. The right people have to be there too. It's not just buy any talent and expect greatness. The talent they bring need to be invested in it too. I think a down top approach like Japan and SK (and some extend Australia) is probably the way to go. Qatar also tried to buy its way at competitive national team, but with no avail. The top down approach from both Qatar and CCP seem not good for football no matter how much they spend.
@@darkuser9992 haha no grounds up player culture? China has over 15,000 junior football teams. Compare that to 80 junior football teams in S. Korea. China has 200 times more junior football players than S. Korea. Guus Hiddink once said that Chinese players are absolutely un-coachable because they are selfish and arrogant. Physically speaking, Chinese players are not inferior to S. Korean players. Chinese football sucks because Chinese players have no respect for each other or their coaches. Have you even watched single game China played? No teamwork whatsoever. Always trying to outshine each other. They play football not as a team but try to play it as an individual sport. Simple as that.
It is not any different than the USA. Soccer is one of the most played sports for young kids in America. However, USA still has problems producing phenomenal men soccer team. In America, when a kids gets to the age of 14 or 15, they more than likely change to other more popular sports like football, basketball, rugby, etc... As mentioned by several individuals, the culture is not there to support soccer. Regardless of how many people you have, if there are no support, good players will not be made. China is not any different than America. It will take several generations before a good team in china can be found.
India and Vietnam in that respect are actually a lot better than China when it comes to soccer/football. Their current FIFA rankings are 99 and 95 respectively, China is 80. For India specifically, soccer is at least the 2nd most popular sport, and growing in popularity still. And while not the most popular throughout the country overall, in certain regions like the east and southwest, soccer is THE most popular sport.
@@unifieddynasty yes ,china should start make realistic football movie or anime like japan did for motivation they have captain tsubasa and blue lock even tho japan always stuck on round 16 world cup, but thats not bad for asia
This is the PROBLEM with China. If a player is really good, but some official does not like him, because his dad said the wrong thing on wechat, he won't make the team.
now the only solution for china is they have to promote football in movies/anime to inspire kids and then send hundreds of thousands of kids/youth to many european football academies, I mean they use this strategy in education, sending many students to many top universities in western countries for decades, and the result when they came back they made china economy better , this logic also can be applies to football or any sport fun fact even all argentinan player also only play in europe club ! their skill improved a lot in europe, theres no way u can make great nation team if only play in local club ! so send all young chinese player to europe academy is the only solution
Japan is actually just mediocre in football with many anime that produced from 1980s to date, it's actually shame for Japan for even never entered semi final in FIFA world cup. In other hand, without many badminton themed TV show, China dominated both Thomas and Uber cup.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610Japan is really good at football, proven by a lot of Japanese players playing in European top leagues also the most successful national team in Asia, and they just unlucky in the world stage just because there's a lot of existing behemoths like france, brazil, spain, germany, argentina, etc but i believe that Japanese national team could go further in the world cup by near future
Chinese soccer/football sucks because China isn't a developed country the same way Japan/Korea are in Asia, most lower to middle class family want their kids going to good schools and finding a good stable job and there isn't a "safety-net" for being poor in China, being a poor person in China is way worse then being a poor person in Japan/Korea. If a kid has 6 hours of free time a day the "return on investment" is much higher to send that kid to a prep-school than to send that kid to a soccer training camp for the family. It's a real fear in China to be so poor in China where a person can "starve to death". And there isn't that much money in soccer in China even if you do "make it" so even if your kid is the 1/100,000 that becomes a pro-soccer player you are not gonna make the same money playing for a club or team as oppose to becoming a business executive, tech-worker, or any white-collar jobs. Same can be said about other team-sports like basket ball. The "market" isn't there for the business and the "skills" isn't there for the fans, and the "talent" isn't there because of the economic incentives.
I don't think its about China being a poor country, the sport is just not popular there. Just look at South America and Africa way poorer than China but they are okay at soccer mainly because it's their main sport.
the problem is not because chinese kids rather focus to education lol , i mean other chinese sport good for example like badminton ,pingpong, swimming, gymnastic basketball and now MMA very popular , the problem is football not really popular in china ,also china dont have strong role model in football like in other chinese sport like yaoming in basketball and zhang weili in UFC or like japan always use football anime story for motivation like captain tsubasa or blue lock even tho japan always stuck on round 16 lol
Interesting. When it comes to gaming/esport, China is very competitive and strong in team games. But in physical sports, yeah they suck. But then again, the esports teams have way more freedom and are much more driven by market forces to succeed while the physical sports team are hand selected and not driven by market forces. So I think Chinese don’t have an issue working as teams, clearly in every endeavor, China is very successful, it takes alot of teamwork to build and support a nation that size in the amount of time they’ve did it, but sport teams aren’t necessarily the pinnacle of what makes a country successful. It’s actually only really good for amusement, sometimes it’s motivating, and it can help with nationalism, but I don’t think China needs help in the nationalism department to be quite honest.
Nope, if you haven't noticed chinese dominate in individual sports, but not in team sports. There's also the interesting fact that chinese women team sport such as soccer, basketball and volleyball are the top in the world. The main problem with soccer is china don't have that many good coaches from the grade school level to post high school, they are mostly concentrated in big cities such as Beijing and Shanghai, shengzhen etc but there are lots of talents in the north west, south west, north east, but they lack resources
@@johnnybaum7957 1 world's is not the only international competition. 2. Scout, doinB, theshy, and even rookie built their career in China. They barely played in LCK. Gimgoon is hardly an "Ace" The only player that was high profile and an import is Viper. The chinese can't win without Korean narrative doesn't stand once you take a deeper look into the facts.
China needs to step up their soccer game for the Asian population please they have no excuse to be this bad. Im not Chinese so idk but I think they don’t really care for soccer the way other countries do.
Hello, I am Japanese. Football is not the only sport. China is strong in table tennis, athletics, fencing, volleyball, basketball and badminton. There is no country on earth that is top in all disciplines.
한국에서 축구는 한세기 동안 내셔널 스포츠였다. 1948년에 올림픽 8강에 갔고 1954년에 아시아 최초로 월드컵에 진출하고 1956년과 1960년에 아시안컵을 우승한 기억때문에 한국에서는 축구가 가장 인기있는 스포츠다. 물론 야구도 한국에서 인기 스포츠지만 국가대표팀은 비교가 안될정도로 축구가 다른 스포츠 종목보다 압도적으로 인기가 많다. 그리고 한국인은 월드컵이 모든 올림픽 게임보다 훨씬 더 중요한 이벤트이며 차범근, 박지성, 손흥민으로 이어지는 유럽 무대에서 활약하는 선수들도 보유하고 있기 때문에 축구 선수가 단연 가장 존경받고 인기 있는 운동선수다.
There are so many theory on the internet. most of them can explain why Chinese football(fk soccer) team is bad, but cannot explain why is it extremely bad. I mean, with the same system, China do good in Olympic, not that good but decent on basketball. I cannot give an clear answer too but those factors must be mutually effective. Plus there're some coincidence which make Chinese football reach this lowest status. PS: the theory said Chinese males cannot do teamwork is definitely an out-of-date bullshit trash. I feel it's a theory from 60s or 70s when mainland China was really in a poor state so there are some unconfident, defeatism old Chinese boomers create bunch of different ideas to self-depreciate. Today's youngster don't buy it at all. Some easy evidence to show Chinese males can do great teamwork is to check the success of Chinese manafatury industry. The industry require teamwork, principle and sacrifice.
As someone who played academy soccer, I can tell you that the Chinese players have no understanding of the fundamental concepts of team play. Academies focus on coaching the Ajax 4-3-3 system which naturally creates even spacing for triangles, which is the basic shape of modern offensive football. I've seen the Chinese team fall apart playing against a basic 4-3-3 system, which by u-15 academy level should be ingrained in every single player. Instead of adjusting spacing and positioning to maximize one's teammates, Chinese players play selfishly and break their offensive and defensive shapes, and routinely put their teammates in bad positions. You can hire world class coaches like Hiddink or Fabio Capello, but if the basics of team play are not 2nd nature by u-15, that team is done. God coaching that selfish team will not save it.
I mean, I've seen China play on the pitch and Oh man! It's like they play ping-pong with that ball. Not to mention that sportsmanship is out of the window.
The Chinese version of a youth academy would involve a lot of drills on individual skills but tend to make players that can't put these skills together.
It isn’t just China though. Almost all of East Asia sucks in soccer, Korea and Japan are exceptions to this. Popularity doesn’t explain it completely either. For example, soccer is huge in Thailand, Malaysia, and Vietnam but their teams barely register on the international scale. It really is hard to clearly pin down a reason for China’s lack of success on the world stage. I suspect the CCP’s top down approach to their sports programs combined with the rampant corruption discouraging potential talents from even getting started are big factors.
All asian countries except for Korean and Japanese suck at football specially southeast asian and south asian third world country losers , bye bye hahahaha
@AL S Soccer is easily the most popular sport in Korea. 11.14 million Koreans watched their World Cup opener against Uruguay, but only 2.709 million watched their World Baseball Classic game against Japan.
@AL S From Wikipedia: "A 2021 poll showed that a plurality of 25% of South Korean sports fans identified football as their favorite sport, with baseball ranked 2nd at 18.8% of respondents"
@umbrellastudio7481 A couple (possible) answers: 1. Football in Asia is much less developed on the women's side than the male side, allowing China's women to gain more success. 2. Basketball is not as popular globally as football. Easier to be good when there are fewer teams to contend with. 3.China is focused mainly on individual sports at the Olympics. Training a few athletes to win a load of medals is easier than training a bunch to win one.
China must bring soccer into school Programm and develop compétion between schools. They need to add some city stadium in big agglomeration and organize competion. This is what they need to do.
I was surprised that the U.S. Soccer Team made it farther than China's. China and the rest of Eurasia were passionate towards soccer. The women's team always got their shit shined all around.
Honestly I don't see genuine large-scale passion from Chinese people for the sport of soccer. Rather, Chinese people are passionate about seeing their team win, nothing more. Ask any group of people to actually play soccer with you, they will more likely than not come up with excuses to opt out. They just don't like playing the sport for the most part. On the other hand, sports like table tennis, badminton, basketball, and others may not get hyped on the media as much, but are simply far more popular in China by raw participation.
South Korea National Football Team: Asia's Brazil and France! Japan National Football Team: Asia's Argentina and Spain! China National Football Team: Asia's Mexico and Russia!
From a Korean perspective, the reason why Korea and even more Japan has a better team is down to their program. It's all down to how much bureaucracy is in the football program. Japan has little to none in their youth to college to club team track route. Basically, if you have the talent, colleges will give you scholarship and the scout program is really well done there. Korea has some bureaucracy with their FA but they still have a good program in terms of youth development. China on the other hand has an FA riddled with corruption. Only the richest and most affluent can afford to play the sport. Those that play that aren't affluent have some connection with the government. They have the larger population so larger talent pool, but the program just isn't there. That's why you see foreign players on the national team for China because although they aren't even close to representing their national team, they are the standout players in the Chinese national team
At the youth level Chinese soccer has gotten better skills wise. Not as good as Japan and Korea but too good to park the bus. The problem is our defense leaks goals like a sieve.
@@loganmiller6879 like you said I think defense is more of a problem than offense, but the player quality on the roster in general is just not it. With a population so big, the country has so much more potential than it's showing on the stage at the current moment. And I think it's starts with the foundation is about. You can take a look at Canada and United States where they have DA and ODP programs that encourage players with great propects to join their program sometimes free of charge because of how well funded it is. Arguably, China should also be as well funded, but the bureaucracy in its FA is what's hindering its progress.
@@yeonlee5 Here is the issue. The problems are easy to identify but difficult to solve. Chinese people are utilitarian (short sighted). Their obsessions with education is worse than Koreans. The goal for the Chinese national team should not be to catch Japan and Korea. It should be to not suck so much. Be able to hold the ball, pass, create chances, and not park the bus. The cultural fabric of China is a bottleneck on team sports development. We are almost at the not sucking stage. I feel it.
Chinas success in women's team sports is also partly due to the fact that globally, in most countries, they are quite underdeveloped. For a nation fixated on being number 1 and projecting power on the world stage, targeting sports that are less competitive should theoretically provide a better return on investment. Hence the government saw the opportunity in developing and supporting women's sports programs.
China's heart is in making products for American business owners for slave wages and making americans more powerful and rich. Then the Chinese sweatshop slave takes a deep breathe after a long day just to be choking on the dirty industrial air. 1 day, Asians will wake up and realize they traded nickels and dimes in exchange for dirty smog air
@@yonglaihuang no even in last 5 fiba asia cup they only won 2 and that's in 2011 and 2015. In the last fiba asia cup they were beaten by indonesia and with the inclusion of new zealand and australia in asia, I don't think they will be as dominant as before.
@@ryuk-grimreaper lol wtf ? since when chinese basketball beaten by indonesia ??? 🤣🤣 the score china 108 - 58 indonesia 🤣🤣🤣🤣and thats chinese B or C team🤣🤣🤣
@@tigerfist2864 Correction that's Lebanon but regardless of what team they sent the fact is it's 7 years now and they are clearly no longer the power house in Asia.
Part of it is genetics. Korea was better at soccer than China and Japan back when it was almost the poorest country in the world. Search for Cha Boom the legendary Korean player who reached the top level in the 70s where there was no real infrastructure nor system in Korea. Plus, North Korea is as good as China. I'm not saying that to discriminate or anything. It's just tha we have to admit that countries like Uruguay Netherlands are likely to be good at soccer with less population. Koreans are tallest compared to China and Japan. The Dutch are famous for their height. Brazil has such a diverse ethnicity. Another factor is corruption. I heard there's a connection around Shanghai region. There are so many players from two teams based in Shanghai in the Chinese national team. I mean if they loose to HongKong, which is practically a city team it means their national team doesn't consist of the best players in the country. Education cannot be a reason to be worse than Korea. Since Koreans are also crazy about education and young players don't get general education that much.
In the first place, there is a prestigious soccer school in China, but it's strange that you can't enter without money. Soccer should be played even by children in slums. When I was a kid and a soccer ball exploded, adults bought me one for kids like me. Soccer should be played by everyine
China really lack experience professional football coaches that are tactically, technically and very knowledgable in terms of modern international training methods, Individual / team selection and inculcating the players on their ability to read the tactical dynamic of the play on the field, as well as in motivating players to achieve their full potentials. This is also a cut-throat industry where only the best players get to play for glory instead of other considerations.
Give it a few years, you need like 2-3 well off generations before the kids don't need to worry about financial success in life to give sports, arts and entertainment more growth. China hasn't seen it's massive growth until the last 20 years, that's 1 generation.
@@loganmiller6879 in Brazil it's like a tradicion. Kids are born witha football under their arms. You are comparing apples with oranges. Soccer' in China is relatively new, in Brazil it's something the kids play just for fun.Also in Brazil is a opportunity to get aot of poverty for lot of people, they put 100% on it and not everyone it's successful. There are a bigger talent pool, more motivation to be great. I think only to the fact of competing it's great,because it's how you learn about you flaws , learn from your opponent and grow..It's only a sport, don't need to be politize or engage in destructive criticism. It's suppose to be fun
Basically, the career risk of becoming football players is higher in China than Korea or Japan, for example in Korea and Japan if you turn out to be just mediocre player, you still can play in 2nd or 3rd league team. But not like that in China with higher social pressure.
More importantly, environment in Korea is very supportive when it comes to sports especially the famous one like baseball and football. They're really treat them better than idols and celebrities
@@GilangRamadhan-gi1dv do you think China don't good on sports? China just not good in football doesn't mean not good on any sport. Chinese national male basketball team won more FIBA's Asian Cup than Japanese and Korean combined. Also, Chinese are good on badminton for both genders.
Like a lot of China's current problems, it may also be rooted in the Single Child policy. There are actually studies showing that YOUNGER siblings are significantly more likely to be elite athletes. I think the reasons should be obvious, but I would imagine this especially affects teamwork. People with siblings just have such a huge advantage when it comes to social skills, and communication and probably non-verbal communication as well. I think the reason women don't have as much of an issue is because women are just naturally more social so the lack of siblings don't impact them as much. Just think of an elite team sport athlete and then google their name + siblings. I couldn't find a single one who didn't have siblings.
@@venture.brothers exception does not prove the rule. I also clearly stated it’s “significantly more likely” not “the only ones who can be.” The ratio is still heavily in favor of people with siblings.
@@bigheadrhino lol not debating the point (though your argument would've been better served had you actually posted those studies). But you said you couldn't find a single example. And I find one easily by just googling the number 1 basketball player lol
A Korean's view. While a friend of mine was traveling Japan, he saw so many high school students enjoy playing soccer in their school. Without worrying about the outcome, he said they really seemed to enjoy. If you have a wider pool, there must be someone outstainding. He said he envied that..
Japan has a bigger population, a bigger pool, and better circumstances compared to Korea. Japanese players have better skills in general, while Korean players have better physique and willingness to win. It is my humble opinion, and I cry whenever Korean team gets defeated by Japan. Both were similar, but Korea used to win, bcz Korean players had better physique, but Japan has made great progress since 1990s. Facts are stubborn things 😢😢😢😢
So more people should enjoy soccer, and if you find any players that are good and passionate, pick them up and train them. Then send them to European countries in order to get them more experienced. It is not a 6 week belly fat challenge, it takes at least 5, 10, sometimes 20 years to see future outcome. JAPAN is planning to win Worldcup champion in 2050, and no one mocks them. Someone might, but I dont. So it should be a really long term pay off. And it is something former Korean players say too
@@Apieceofgarbageㅋㅋㅋㅋ
China has way more people though, and soccer is the most popular sport (at least to watch) by far. Yet we still suck T_T
@@ysf-d9itell me you are blind without telling me you are blind
Corruption, wrong coach, bad players
exactly
Culture
The Communist Regime! and their disgusting wet markets!
They fail in football, so you conclude bec of corruption.
But they also succeed in many, many other domains, in sports and others. So you should conclude there is no corruption.
@@nmew6926 succeeded by using drugs and their influences over the officials!👎🇨🇳👎
It's a mystery that Chinese men can not play in any team systems, the total opposite of Chinese women. The Chinese Women have dominated sports like Soccer, Volleyball and Basketball on international levels at one time or another.
but chinese basketball not bad at least in asian level they always on the top and in asia cup number one with 16 gold , 2nd philiphine 5 gold , iran 3 gold
Chinese society is harsh on women, confucian patriarchy, all families expect their boys to get the best school ranks, girls don't receive the same support
@@tigerfist2864 Until the Asian and Oceanic merged now Australia dominates.
@@randomuruk7230 yes australian team is new nightmare and what i notice chinese team is stuck in comfort zone, they seems dont have motivation n ignore the fact other smaller asian country make progress everyday and more ambitious , this what happened in football ,team like vietnam, uzbekistan, kazhakstan,iraq is getting better ,meanwhile chinese team getting worst
@@tigerfist2864now?😅
I think China just focuses on Olympic sports more tbh. (even though soccer is technically an Olympic sport lol)
ya i mean kinda
no, china invests much more money on football than any Asian country. China has no talent for soccer. I live in China and every school has a soccer field and good soccer education but Chinese just suck at football
@@태권태훈 I think both things could be true lol. There’s definitely no evidence up to this point that Chinese people are good at football.
Because China want to be top of medal table in Olympic which they can only dream only since the most cheat Olympic in 2008 Beijing Olympic !
No it's weird as heck. Chinese people love soccer more than any other sport BY FAR, and they pay mediocre brazilian players (who couldn't make the cut in brazil/europe) tens of millions of dollars to play for china. So much money is spent on soccer but they just suck
There was a recent CGTN interview with the Uruguayan ambassador regarding this topic. The ambassador basically said, 'the kids have to grow up playing it for fun in the neighborhood.' There are some sports that you can train gifted people in to get gold medals in the Olympics. There are some sports that have to grow organically on the streets. For the latter, it's harder to grow in China because of such a high emphasis on academics and structured extracurriculars.
And the most popular sports are probably table tennis, basketball, and dancing in the parks in the morning.
Can’t agree more
China better at hoops tho
@@alexbayan8302 Korea and Japan put a high emphasis on academics, but they can afford some slack because they are already part of the first world. With that slack, parents are more amenable to allowing their kids to focus on sports throughout school. This is almost never the case in China.
But Korea and Japan has a lot of emphasis on academics as well, they’re not playing in the streets as kids!! This isn’t the reason
The most important thing is that China lacks the environment for the growth of football. Even if some teenagers like football, most of them will be forced to give up football eventually due to the increasingly heavy academic burden. In China, almost all parents believe that going to college is the only thing their children should do, so most recreational activities are considered heretical and banned. Even if there are some sports talents, most of them exercise to score more points in college exams. Moreover, many Chinese fans do not know how to learn. As East Asian yellow men, the success of South Korea and Japan in football should be a reference for China, but most people only hate everything about the two countries because of historical reasons, including football. When South Korea and Japan entered the round of 16, many Chinese people were very angry, thinking that they qualified by cheating and luck. And for the next they will play against a stronger team and excited, and hope they immediately fail to go home, Chinese fans only like Brazil, France and Argentina such as the strong but can not see the efforts of South Korea and Japan represented by the East Asian team.
In all honesty, the Chinese are right to root against Korea and Japan, they are two countries that wouldn't think too hard to root against them in any kind of competition. Mainly Koreans, who are increasingly violent with Chinese.
and you think life as a student in korea is easy?
So true bro 中国足球一百年都不可能进
Lacks the environment? that's not exactly true. Corruption exists on every lvl here, even with soccer. It's controlled by politicians and there is no passion for the sport. Japanese players have a deep passion for the game, something that Chinese players lack *they are pampered and spoiled..wearing expensive stuff. Money given by the govt as a reward for failing and doing poorly.* it's very sad
Korea vs Japan China National Team (Total Match Wins and Goals)
Korea 42 wins 92 goals
Japan 16 wins 33 goals
Korea 21 wins 41 goals
China 2 wins 4 goals
U14~U23 Korea vs Japan China Team (Total Match Wins and Goals)
Korea 75 wins 193 goals
Japan 25 wins 61 goals
Koera 74 wins 84 goals
China 25 wins 20 goals
All Total
Korea 116 wins 285 goals
Japan 41 wins 94 goals
Korea 95 wins 125 goals
China 27 wins 24 goals
Korea 211 wins 410 goals
vs
Japan China 68 wins 118 goals
Korea 321 wins 1146 goals
vs
Southeast Asia 51 wins 66 goals
It's youth academies. China and the US don't have proper academies that train and find young future stars like other nations.
At least the Chinese women's football team are alright. Sure, the team have struggled, but during their prime they got at least second place back in 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup.
Woman football is pretty amateur, anyone investing in it can get great results. Japan has even won a women’s world cup
@@bryanfong1023 Japan's women football is actually pretty good. They have so many players playing in Europe as well
Why do YOU think China is so bad at soccer?
Because they focus too much on ping pong.
Because they don’t have experience outside of china. Scouters are hard to get into china.
All they got is mainland experience
@@user-wx5yz4xu9g like i said they don’t have experience, there was a time like you said but not anymore now. Like you said it’s all about the money and bringing food to the table. The motivation is money and not legacy.
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If you had researched this topic in Chinese media, you would've understand why they always underperform. One short answer, each position represents a special interest group, the player is just a representative.
This has begun to be an inside joke in our school, literally no one tries to defend our country's soccer team anymore.
I'm a Tigers fan but shout out to China's Women's for winning the AFC this year!! Congrats 👏 🇨🇳
South Korean and Japanese players on the national teams already have exposure and experience playing on top notch competitive leagues/teams, so that alone makes it easier for national teams to perform better because they are already familiar competing on the international stage. We can see this in the NBA where national teams like the Spanish, Argentinian, and French teams have so many players playing in the NBA. I would say for the Chinese team to field a competitive team, they must build a program where youth soccer have exposure to international competition and giving talents an opportunity to play on youth teams abroad. It will have to be a stepwise fashion where hopefully over the course for a generation, eventually one generation of players will build on the knowledge and talents of the previous generation. Easier said than done, i.e., even the US youth soccer struggled to get this done.
talking about usa soccer ,fung bros should talk about why asian american sucks at soccer or any sport in america like football,basketball etc lol
@@tigerfist2864 For soccer even White American are below Latino.
North Korean teams have been competitive with no youth league or international exposure. Same for Vietnam, Myanmar, etc who are ranked lower than China but play at about same level.
I am mostly Korean but my grandpa was Japanese so I speak both languages and also follow football for Korea & Japan. Some Korean & Japanese players have talked about this issue (most notably 이천수 from Korea) `but the problem with Chinese football is simply this. Lack of respect for one another & their coaches. Chinese, Korean, and Japanese are closely related people and it's not like Japanese & Korean players have higher physical ability than Chinese players to play soccer. Culturally, Japanese & Korean men develop a sense of respect for their fellow team members and their coaches. This makes them very coachable.
Both Hiddink and Bento had incredible success in Korea but both failed miserably in China. Why do you suppose that is? It's not because Chinese players lack physical ability. Hiddink and Bento (especially Bento) were all praises for cooperative Korean players but did not hide their displeasure for selfish and arrogant Chinese players. In 1980's and 1990's, Chinese national football team was not weak. There were brief periods where Chinese team was even considered stronger than the Korean national team. But as one child policy generation players began to fill up the Chinese national squad, the Chinese national team began its long downfall.
That’s a really interesting point to hear from both a Korean and Japanese person. I’m a Chinese soccer player, who’s been playing the game since I was 3. So I played with multiple different types of people which gave me perspectives as well. So one of the things I do notice with Chinese soccer pros is that some of them don’t work well with each other. I’ll be honest, I could perform better than I am right now, but I notice my Korean soccer teammates never try to outperform my other teammates.
The "China not being able to work as a team" is very interesting. You'd think in a communist society where doing your part for the greater good would produce great team players.
Taiwan and singapore also suck at football and they have more freedom than communist china. Football is pretty easy to learn but very hard to master.
This has nothing to do with politics or culture, it has to do with actually playing it.
@Jonny that doesnt change the fact that they suck at football. They have more freedoms than chinese and their team still suck.
Communist society lol
In Chinese sociaty its all about get rid of responsibility . Not being the hero .
Japanese and Koreans take soccer seriously. The way Chinese play soccer, you can tell the Chinese think soccer is another form of Kung Fu.
Lol
It could be the tiger moms instilling in them the "Be the best" mentality so most Chinese youths who are good at sports always try to be the "guy" who has to hit the score and because of that it makes the team less cohesive and less trust between team mates.
@@miliba I can see that. To be a goal scorer who scores a lot you kinda have to be “selfish” and stand out and I don’t really see that from Japan.
You did touch on an important point. Not enough playing of the game at a grass roots level from pre teen years into adulthood by persons who are talented in large part because of a very heavy focus on academics on the part of parents. People did point out that Japan and South Korea also have a strong societal focus on academics, but there's still the encouragement that those who are talented and passionate about team sports such as soccer in Korea and Japan and baseball in Japan should pursue their talents and they have a youth development system for it...
I see people in the comments section saying that there are not enough places to actually play the game in China. On Google Maps I have noticed that most Chinese cities have numerous soccer fields that dot them... Those are definitely venues for playing the game.... But I do not know the reality of access to those fields for recreational purposes or to play competitive games...
There are over 15,000 junior football teams in China. Compare that to 80 junior football teams in Korea. In 2019, China had 200 times more junior football players than Korea. Guus Hiddink coached both Korean & Chinese national team. Paulo Bento also coached in China and coached the Korean national team. These two and countless others who experienced the Chinese football have all basically said the same. Chinese players are not coachable. Why? While Koreans and Japanese players have utter most respect for each other and their coaches, Chinese players are selfish and arrogant. If you go back to 1980's & 1990's, the Chinese national team was about the same level as Korea or Japan. But once these one child policy players began filling the Chinese national team, Chinese national team was finished, with no hope of ever coming back up.
I’ll tell you my story. I live in Beijing between 1997 to 2014, in 3 and 4th grade there was a dirt soccer field in my elementary school. In 5th grade they turn it into a 3 basketball field. Ever since then, we were unable to find a big enough open field to play soccer. We have played on the streets, in front of peoples garage, but it was just not enough. And because of Yao Ming school would promote basketball and other sports way more. From what I heard now it costs 3000 rmb to rent a soccer field in Beijing…..
And also corruption. Recently the Beijing soccer team could be considered on a national level lost 7 to 5 to an amateur team who’s member are consists of teachers, meat butcher, small business owner. Imagine that.. a national team lost to a Sunday meet up soccer team…..
Dear fellow Chinese, it's OK to be bad at something. It's really OK.
Nope. Not when Billions have been invested in it. It underlines internal corruption and mis-management. That's not ok.
its ok to be bad, but not ok to be bad for a long time... Especially for a big country like China
Team sport takes a long time to see the progress. Team Japan first advance to world cup back in 1998, fast forward to today, they are finally capable of taking on European teams and having the chance to win, but still never made it to the best 8. Chinese system doesn’t have that kinda patience to build up a nice development system. If female soccer will be as popular as the male’s, it’s gonna be a different story as well. I believe it will happen one day, but it’s not gonna be anytime soon.
Except Chinese national team was just as strong as Japan or Korea in 1980's & 1990's. Matter of fact, China even qualified for the World Cup in 2002. Chinese football reached its peak in late 90's to early 2000's. Chinese players in the 80's & 90's respected their teammates and coaches just like Japan or Korea do today. Sadly, the culture of respect has been replaced with arrogance and selfishness in Chinese football team because of one child policy generation. "Chinese players are absolutely un-coachable" - Guus Hiddink
They just need to incorporate kung fu into their soccer. Study the movie "Shaolin Soccer" as the inspiration. 😁
중국에는 축구 문화가 없잖아..
한국은 보통 어렸을때부터 학교 운동장이나 동네 길거리에서 축구를 함..
그리고 축구는 다른 올림픽 종목처럼 돈으로 되는게 아님..
가장 대중적이며 글로벌화 되어 있고 세계 200개 국가와 경쟁을 해야되고 2억명이 넘는 잠재적인 선수와 넘쳐나는 인재풀 그리고 선수 개개인의 개성이 매우 중요한 스포츠임.
중국은 체조나 다이빙 역도 탁구 같은 개인만 잘하는 스포츠 종목에서는 성적을 낼수 있지만
1분 1초 다른 플레이를 요구하며 시시각각 변덕이 심하고 개인의 창의성을 요구하는 축구는 매우 힘들다고 본다.
@@花房白香 이것도 맞는것 같네요. 시시각각 변하는 과정에서 팀플레이가 안됨. 그런더 한국도 요샌 븅..신이라
Is it also because of the lack of field space in China. Not many people in China have back gardens or green parks, certainly not in the working class families. Most people live in flats....i have never seen a single large green park in an urban centre when i went to the fareast
Height doesn't matter in football look at messi. Maradona.Elton Jose etc..its your passion for the game.
Do you two make longer podcasts? Like an hour long? I have a long drive to work and love listening to you two but it's often short.
I also would like to say that people who care for your heritage like you two should live in China for a year and see what you can do realistically. I think people like you who know the best of many worlds should maybe try to become more involved.
This doesn’t only pertain to football but all aspects of Chinese society.
Really like what you guys are doing. Need this kind of discussions with our neighbors too.
Enjoyed this video.
you probably don't know? CCP and its cronies do not tolerate criticism...especially from an 'outsider' if the Fung Brothers were to attempt any change as you suggested in China, they'll just 'disappear'.. any change in China (Football etc..) would only be possible from within and within its own CCP party who helms the China F.A.
You can't make a competitive soccer team with so many corrupted politicians and cunning speculators.
Like recently the head coach of China's soccer team has been held in custody. He deliberately kept those imported Brazilian players out of the starting line-up since they didn't bribe him for the position.
Plus a lot of teams in Chinese soccer league were actually sponsored by real-estate syndicates that invest in soccer teams for money-laundering, and many of them refused to pay their players salary.
Soccer is a sport and a business per se, while Chinese decision makers simply see the business part.
你是一个中国人，你看到的不全面但也不能说是错的
@umbrellastudio7481 What they want is the same commercial power and notoriety as the Premier League Without doing all the work. The Chinese Super League is a failed football organisation, without passion there is no football. Look at how the J league was formed it was created in the 90's so a it's relatively young league, but has around 60 professional teams a this time. One of their stated aims is to have 100 fully professional football clubs operation in Japan. But they have more goal/aims as well, like having a fully functioning domestic league with promotion and relegation, thus this would eventually be able to support their national team.
Kids in China cannot develop the skills and passion for football if they literally got no time to play it, because they're at school from 7am to 9:30pm (doing all that "evening study sessions" after class lectures have ended), and if they get to their senior year, too stressed reviewing for the Gaokao (university qualification exam) which decides the path that they'll take for their adult life.
That's can't explain why China so good on badminton, gymnastic, table tennis, and diving.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 exactly
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 plus their rap is developing
@@faustinuskaryadi6610Thanks for listing teamwork spor...
Oh wait
@@faustinuskaryadi6610because those are sports whose skills are more tied to repetition and training than creativity and chemistry. China puts sports funding into sports that have recordable statistics in success
Add India... Now that is 5/7 of the world population in tears every 4 years.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMFAO throughout this video...Swear to God!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
In Korea, domestic pro soccer league isn't as popular as in China (and they are far far smaller) - and the national football league is as corrupt, if not more so, than the one in China.
Yet, there is a reason why they are so successful in World Cup - its due to talent pooling.
Korea-Japan national team
Korea 42 wins 96 goals
Japan 16 wins 33 goals
U14~U23 Korea-Japan team
Korea 75 wins 193 goals
Japan 25 wins 61 goals
All Total
Korea 116 wins 285 goals
Japan 41 wins 94 goals
Korea vs Japan China National Team (Total Match Wins and Goals)
Korea 42 wins 92 goals
Japan 16 wins 33 goals
Korea 21 wins 41 goals
China 2 wins 4 goals
U14~U23 Korea vs Japan China Team (Total Match Wins and Goals)
Korea 75 wins 193 goals
Japan 25 wins 61 goals
Koera 74 wins 84 goals
China 25 wins 20 goals
All Total
Korea 116 wins 285 goals
Japan 41 wins 94 goals
Korea 95 wins 125 goals
China 27 wins 24 goals
Korea 211 wins 410 goals
vs
Japan China 68 wins 118 goals
Korea 321 wins 1146 goals
vs
Southeast Asia 51 wins 66 goals
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China just bad in football, they don't have a football culture also a corrupted asf lol
@@user-mr8gb3jo4f Chinese people love soccer. It's the most popular sport by far. We just suck at it.
Nice deep cut into the topic, I challenge you to deep dive into Football in general now!
china women football team is good they just won asian cup 2022
Same with baseball. Japan, S. Korea, and Taiwan love baseball. Chinese people just love basketball too much .
not same at all. Chinese people don't care about baseball at all; back in the early 2000s, no one even knew what baseball was.
But they absolutely love soccer, it's by far the most popular sport to watch in china.
Korea vs Japan China National Team (Total Match Wins and Goals)
Korea 42 wins 92 goals
Japan 16 wins 33 goals
Korea 21 wins 41 goals
China 2 wins 4 goals
U14~U23 Korea vs Japan China Team (Total Match Wins and Goals)
Korea 75 wins 193 goals
Japan 25 wins 61 goals
Koera 74 wins 84 goals
China 25 wins 20 goals
All Total
Korea 116 wins 285 goals
Japan 41 wins 94 goals
Korea 95 wins 125 goals
China 27 wins 24 goals
Korea 211 wins 410 goals
vs
Japan China 68 wins 118 goals
Korea 321 wins 1146 goals
vs
Southeast Asia 51 wins 66 goals
Source pls ,your data looks strange . Whats is this ? All time data between matches amobg them ?
@T1mpossible I feel a bit embarrassed, but I have a feeling that he or she is a lunatic Korean. Let's be honest. All(at least many, and down to earth) Koreans fear that K team might be defeated by J team. Japan us doing way better these days. Please have conscience. Oh am I Japanese? I am Korean
Soccer be Like :
In USA : is Business
In Europe : Is a Business , Culture , Brutal Hooligan , Intense Rivalry
in South America: Religion
Rest of the world : escaping from personal problems
In China : is joke.
Lol
I feel you china as a Scottish football fan our national team tries to compete with England and the good European sides but we don't have good enough players to challenge it's tough. It starts with really young age groups getting taught and practice of skills there's obviously an issue with this in both china and Scotland
This was my question for years as to why China and India simply couldn't find 25 players (11 starters + subs) out of 1.4+ billion people to have team that can advance to the World Cup. I mean, China is known to dominant in certain sports and so much money is pumped/invested by the Chinese government so it's not like they don't have the funding and certainly not enough people. To this day, it baffles me.
China doesn't have a grounds up playing culture...while S. Korea and Japan have...They found their way in football. It doesn't matter how much money you put into it or how much you like watch it. You need a football playing culture that starts very early with age. China doesn't have that.
Each sport has different approach and pathways to achieve professional level of competitiveness. Population can only be leveraged if they are aiming to be decent at lot vastly different sports. Otherwise, population has no bearing in actual results. Lot of low population countries can be great at certain sports with proper focus. China does well in certain sports, but their approach for football has been not quite the right one even with a lot of money and vast pool of population.
In case of football, a nation has to create the culture of football first and then nurture a professional league that can sustain itself. The government can't just force creating it. SK and Japan took a long time to nurture their first generation of proper professional footballers and their local professional leagues. It took a lot of individual passion besides private initiatives. Not just bringing talents from other countries, but also sending their youth to learn with the best. For instance, Zico was really important for Japanese football. The right people have to be there too. It's not just buy any talent and expect greatness. The talent they bring need to be invested in it too.
I think a down top approach like Japan and SK (and some extend Australia) is probably the way to go. Qatar also tried to buy its way at competitive national team, but with no avail. The top down approach from both Qatar and CCP seem not good for football no matter how much they spend.
@@darkuser9992 haha no grounds up player culture? China has over 15,000 junior football teams. Compare that to 80 junior football teams in S. Korea. China has 200 times more junior football players than S. Korea. Guus Hiddink once said that Chinese players are absolutely un-coachable because they are selfish and arrogant. Physically speaking, Chinese players are not inferior to S. Korean players. Chinese football sucks because Chinese players have no respect for each other or their coaches. Have you even watched single game China played? No teamwork whatsoever. Always trying to outshine each other. They play football not as a team but try to play it as an individual sport. Simple as that.
It is not any different than the USA. Soccer is one of the most played sports for young kids in America. However, USA still has problems producing phenomenal men soccer team. In America, when a kids gets to the age of 14 or 15, they more than likely change to other more popular sports like football, basketball, rugby, etc... As mentioned by several individuals, the culture is not there to support soccer. Regardless of how many people you have, if there are no support, good players will not be made. China is not any different than America. It will take several generations before a good team in china can be found.
yeah it is ironic. China did invent Football its called Cuju. But no no football team
India and Vietnam in that respect are actually a lot better than China when it comes to soccer/football. Their current FIFA rankings are 99 and 95 respectively, China is 80. For India specifically, soccer is at least the 2nd most popular sport, and growing in popularity still. And while not the most popular throughout the country overall, in certain regions like the east and southwest, soccer is THE most popular sport.
weird. I've never seen any indian soccer players or any indians talking about soccer ever.
That Vietnam that cry baby when losing with fair in Asean game yeah right
Yet Japanese and Chinese women are so good at football in history.
China needs to do a Blue Lock
Ikr. Why aren't they better? Especially after shaolin soccer movie came out.
One could say that Shaolin Soccer highlights a problem with Chinese soccer -- the focus on entertainment value instead of serious competition.
@@unifieddynasty yes ,china should start make realistic football movie or anime like japan did for motivation they have captain tsubasa and blue lock even tho japan always stuck on round 16 world cup, but thats not bad for asia
This is the PROBLEM with China. If a player is really good, but some official does not like him, because his dad said the wrong thing on wechat, he won't make the team.
So only in football.. Why do they succeed in other areas sports, economic...
now the only solution for china is they have to promote football in movies/anime to inspire kids and then send hundreds of thousands of kids/youth to many european football academies, I mean they use this strategy in education, sending many students to many top universities in western countries for decades, and the result when they came back they made china economy better , this logic also can be applies to football or any sport
fun fact even all argentinan player also only play in europe club ! their skill improved a lot in europe, theres no way u can make great nation team if only play in local club ! so send all young chinese player to europe academy is the only solution
Japan is actually just mediocre in football with many anime that produced from 1980s to date, it's actually shame for Japan for even never entered semi final in FIFA world cup.
In other hand, without many badminton themed TV show, China dominated both Thomas and Uber cup.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610Japan is really good at football, proven by a lot of Japanese players playing in European top leagues also the most successful national team in Asia, and they just unlucky in the world stage just because there's a lot of existing behemoths like france, brazil, spain, germany, argentina, etc but i believe that Japanese national team could go further in the world cup by near future
There is a joke about this from Russell Peters
For information is called football not soccer ,
Chinese soccer/football sucks because China isn't a developed country the same way Japan/Korea are in Asia, most lower to middle class family want their kids going to good schools and finding a good stable job and there isn't a "safety-net" for being poor in China, being a poor person in China is way worse then being a poor person in Japan/Korea. If a kid has 6 hours of free time a day the "return on investment" is much higher to send that kid to a prep-school than to send that kid to a soccer training camp for the family. It's a real fear in China to be so poor in China where a person can "starve to death". And there isn't that much money in soccer in China even if you do "make it" so even if your kid is the 1/100,000 that becomes a pro-soccer player you are not gonna make the same money playing for a club or team as oppose to becoming a business executive, tech-worker, or any white-collar jobs. Same can be said about other team-sports like basket ball.
The "market" isn't there for the business and the "skills" isn't there for the fans, and the "talent" isn't there because of the economic incentives.
I don't think its about China being a poor country, the sport is just not popular there. Just look at South America and Africa way poorer than China but they are okay at soccer mainly because it's their main sport.
? China kicks ass in so many other sports.
the problem is not because chinese kids rather focus to education lol , i mean other chinese sport good for example like badminton ,pingpong, swimming, gymnastic basketball and now MMA very popular , the problem is football not really popular in china ,also china dont have strong role model in football like in other chinese sport like yaoming in basketball and zhang weili in UFC or like japan always use football anime story for motivation like captain tsubasa or blue lock even tho japan always stuck on round 16 lol
This is the most dumbest assessment I have read lol. You guys can't even beat Vietnam am and Thailand anymore. Lol
@@tigerfist2864 for motivation? According to your logic, shaolin soccer should have made China a football superpower
Interesting. When it comes to gaming/esport, China is very competitive and strong in team games. But in physical sports, yeah they suck. But then again, the esports teams have way more freedom and are much more driven by market forces to succeed while the physical sports team are hand selected and not driven by market forces. So I think Chinese don’t have an issue working as teams, clearly in every endeavor, China is very successful, it takes alot of teamwork to build and support a nation that size in the amount of time they’ve did it, but sport teams aren’t necessarily the pinnacle of what makes a country successful. It’s actually only really good for amusement, sometimes it’s motivating, and it can help with nationalism, but I don’t think China needs help in the nationalism department to be quite honest.
Football is market driven in China. Just check out the cars those football players drive.
@@johnwesson2759 RNG?
Nope, if you haven't noticed chinese dominate in individual sports, but not in team sports. There's also the interesting fact that chinese women team sport such as soccer, basketball and volleyball are the top in the world.
The main problem with soccer is china don't have that many good coaches from the grade school level to post high school, they are mostly concentrated in big cities such as Beijing and Shanghai, shengzhen etc but there are lots of talents in the north west, south west, north east, but they lack resources
@@GIN.356.A RNG still havent won a single worlds....... Only Chinese teams that won worlds are with Korean aces.
@@johnnybaum7957 1 world's is not the only international competition.
2. Scout, doinB, theshy, and even rookie built their career in China. They barely played in LCK.
Gimgoon is hardly an "Ace"
The only player that was high profile and an import is Viper.
The chinese can't win without Korean narrative doesn't stand once you take a deeper look into the facts.
China focuses on individual vs team sports, because they want to win the Olympic gold medal race.
In Basketball China won FIBA Asia Cup 16 times more than Japan and South Korea.
Not really both China and USA are great in basketball
very good point !
Even 😂my dad say if our grandson plays soccer he will break both his legs...
Money can't buy Passion, football culture, skills
It's football not soccer
Chinese women’s soccer has been killing it, they have reached loads of quarter finals for decades and even runner up.
China needs to step up their soccer game for the Asian population please they have no excuse to be this bad. Im not Chinese so idk but I think they don’t really care for soccer the way other countries do.
Hello, I am Japanese. Football is not the only sport. China is strong in table tennis, athletics, fencing, volleyball, basketball and badminton. There is no country on earth that is top in all disciplines.
Yes, soccer isn't the only sport in the world.
Nobody said foot ball is the only sport?
Soccer is still the most popular and prestigous sport. The sports youve listed, are not even close..
@@Hamza-qs7ez Its football. also thats not the point.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610
Only the most popular sport in the world by FAR. And most competitive because most young boys dream about being a pro.
The main reason for not playing well is that talented players are not able to get into the national team for financial reasons.
한국에서 축구는 한세기 동안 내셔널 스포츠였다.
1948년에 올림픽 8강에 갔고
1954년에 아시아 최초로 월드컵에 진출하고 1956년과 1960년에 아시안컵을 우승한 기억때문에 한국에서는 축구가 가장 인기있는 스포츠다. 물론 야구도 한국에서 인기 스포츠지만 국가대표팀은 비교가 안될정도로 축구가 다른 스포츠 종목보다 압도적으로 인기가 많다.
그리고 한국인은 월드컵이 모든 올림픽 게임보다 훨씬 더 중요한 이벤트이며 차범근, 박지성, 손흥민으로 이어지는 유럽 무대에서 활약하는 선수들도 보유하고 있기 때문에 축구 선수가 단연 가장 존경받고 인기 있는 운동선수다.
요샌 야구가 최고 아닌가요? 아니면 league of legend...
@@cualcualcualNo.
영원히 축구가 1위..
Chinese play it like it's a team kungfu match. They injure ppl so much 🤷♂️🤨
There are so many theory on the internet.
most of them can explain why Chinese football(fk soccer) team is bad, but cannot explain why is it extremely bad.
I mean, with the same system, China do good in Olympic, not that good but decent on basketball.
I cannot give an clear answer too but those factors must be mutually effective.
Plus there're some coincidence which make Chinese football reach this lowest status.
PS: the theory said Chinese males cannot do teamwork is definitely an out-of-date bullshit trash.
I feel it's a theory from 60s or 70s when mainland China was really in a poor state
so there are some unconfident, defeatism old Chinese boomers create bunch of different ideas to self-depreciate.
Today's youngster don't buy it at all.
Some easy evidence to show Chinese males can do great teamwork is to check the success of Chinese manafatury industry.
The industry require teamwork, principle and sacrifice.
Chinese male basketball national team won FIBA's Asia Cup 16 times more than Japanese and Korean, so China is suck in team work is just biased theory.
As someone who played academy soccer, I can tell you that the Chinese players have no understanding of the fundamental concepts of team play.
Academies focus on coaching the Ajax 4-3-3 system which naturally creates even spacing for triangles, which is the basic shape of modern offensive football. I've seen the Chinese team fall apart playing against a basic 4-3-3 system, which by u-15 academy level should be ingrained in every single player.
Instead of adjusting spacing and positioning to maximize one's teammates, Chinese players play selfishly and break their offensive and defensive shapes, and routinely put their teammates in bad positions.
You can hire world class coaches like Hiddink or Fabio Capello, but if the basics of team play are not 2nd nature by u-15, that team is done. God coaching that selfish team will not save it.
I mean, I've seen China play on the pitch and Oh man! It's like they play ping-pong with that ball. Not to mention that sportsmanship is out of the window.
The Chinese version of a youth academy would involve a lot of drills on individual skills but tend to make players that can't put these skills together.
There are so many people playing basketball in china. I see so many pickup games and stuff. how can they suck so badly brooo 😭😭😭😭
China must beat Uruguay in basketball.
It isn’t just China though. Almost all of East Asia sucks in soccer, Korea and Japan are exceptions to this.
Popularity doesn’t explain it completely either. For example, soccer is huge in Thailand, Malaysia, and Vietnam but their teams barely register on the international scale.
It really is hard to clearly pin down a reason for China’s lack of success on the world stage. I suspect the CCP’s top down approach to their sports programs combined with the rampant corruption discouraging potential talents from even getting started are big factors.
@AL S Soccer is very popular in those 2 countries, slightly edged out by baseball
All asian countries except for Korean and Japanese suck at football specially southeast asian and south asian third world country losers , bye bye hahahaha
@AL S Soccer is easily the most popular sport in Korea. 11.14 million Koreans watched their World Cup opener against Uruguay, but only 2.709 million watched their World Baseball Classic game against Japan.
@AL S From Wikipedia: "A 2021 poll showed that a plurality of 25% of South Korean sports fans identified football as their favorite sport, with baseball ranked 2nd at 18.8% of respondents"
@umbrellastudio7481
A couple (possible) answers:
1. Football in Asia is much less developed on the women's side than the male side, allowing China's women to gain more success.
2. Basketball is not as popular globally as football. Easier to be good when there are fewer teams to contend with.
3.China is focused mainly on individual sports at the Olympics. Training a few athletes to win a load of medals is easier than training a bunch to win one.
They are usually competitive at Basketball
China must bring soccer into school Programm and develop compétion between schools.
They need to add some city stadium in big agglomeration and organize competion.
This is what they need to do.
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It’s not soccer it’s football
I was surprised that the U.S. Soccer Team made it farther than China's. China and the rest of Eurasia were passionate towards soccer. The women's team always got their shit shined all around.
Honestly I don't see genuine large-scale passion from Chinese people for the sport of soccer. Rather, Chinese people are passionate about seeing their team win, nothing more. Ask any group of people to actually play soccer with you, they will more likely than not come up with excuses to opt out. They just don't like playing the sport for the most part.
On the other hand, sports like table tennis, badminton, basketball, and others may not get hyped on the media as much, but are simply far more popular in China by raw participation.
US soccer team is still B to C class in the world compared to Latin Americans.
@Faustinus Karyadi yeah cause most young kids in America want to go to the NFL. And in Latin America they all want to be the next Messi.
i never understood china excels in so many olympic sports and soccer is the only thing that they suck at
why is that and what else could it mean🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
South Korea National Football Team: Asia's Brazil and France!
Japan National Football Team: Asia's Argentina and Spain!
China National Football Team: Asia's Mexico and Russia!
From a Korean perspective, the reason why Korea and even more Japan has a better team is down to their program. It's all down to how much bureaucracy is in the football program. Japan has little to none in their youth to college to club team track route. Basically, if you have the talent, colleges will give you scholarship and the scout program is really well done there. Korea has some bureaucracy with their FA but they still have a good program in terms of youth development. China on the other hand has an FA riddled with corruption. Only the richest and most affluent can afford to play the sport. Those that play that aren't affluent have some connection with the government. They have the larger population so larger talent pool, but the program just isn't there. That's why you see foreign players on the national team for China because although they aren't even close to representing their national team, they are the standout players in the Chinese national team
At the youth level Chinese soccer has gotten better skills wise. Not as good as Japan and Korea but too good to park the bus. The problem is our defense leaks goals like a sieve.
@@loganmiller6879 like you said I think defense is more of a problem than offense, but the player quality on the roster in general is just not it. With a population so big, the country has so much more potential than it's showing on the stage at the current moment. And I think it's starts with the foundation is about. You can take a look at Canada and United States where they have DA and ODP programs that encourage players with great propects to join their program sometimes free of charge because of how well funded it is. Arguably, China should also be as well funded, but the bureaucracy in its FA is what's hindering its progress.
@@yeonlee5 Here is the issue. The problems are easy to identify but difficult to solve. Chinese people are utilitarian (short sighted). Their obsessions with education is worse than Koreans. The goal for the Chinese national team should not be to catch Japan and Korea. It should be to not suck so much. Be able to hold the ball, pass, create chances, and not park the bus. The cultural fabric of China is a bottleneck on team sports development. We are almost at the not sucking stage. I feel it.
Chinas success in women's team sports is also partly due to the fact that globally, in most countries, they are quite underdeveloped. For a nation fixated on being number 1 and projecting power on the world stage, targeting sports that are less competitive should theoretically provide a better return on investment. Hence the government saw the opportunity in developing and supporting women's sports programs.
Will China's soccer ever win against South Korea and Japan?
Three metres theory. Chinese people don't like body contact. As long as there opponents are three metres away from them, they're good at that sport.
Lee Kang In the korean, playing in Spain since his teenage years....still suck at football...that's how difficult it is
Aren't you guys being little too greedy when you guys already win most medals from Olympics?
But winning one gold medal in football outweighs winning multiple gold medals in other unpopular sports.
China's heart is in basketball
best in asia lol ,,
China's heart is in making products for American business owners for slave wages and making americans more powerful and rich. Then the Chinese sweatshop slave takes a deep breathe after a long day just to be choking on the dirty industrial air. 1 day, Asians will wake up and realize they traded nickels and dimes in exchange for dirty smog air
@@yonglaihuang no even in last 5 fiba asia cup they only won 2 and that's in 2011 and 2015. In the last fiba asia cup they were beaten by indonesia and with the inclusion of new zealand and australia in asia, I don't think they will be as dominant as before.
@@ryuk-grimreaper lol wtf ? since when chinese basketball beaten by indonesia ??? 🤣🤣 the score china 108 - 58 indonesia 🤣🤣🤣🤣and thats chinese B or C team🤣🤣🤣
@@tigerfist2864 Correction that's Lebanon but regardless of what team they sent the fact is it's 7 years now and they are clearly no longer the power house in Asia.
Part of it is genetics. Korea was better at soccer than China and Japan back when it was almost the poorest country in the world. Search for Cha Boom the legendary Korean player who reached the top level in the 70s where there was no real infrastructure nor system in Korea. Plus, North Korea is as good as China. I'm not saying that to discriminate or anything. It's just tha we have to admit that countries like Uruguay Netherlands are likely to be good at soccer with less population. Koreans are tallest compared to China and Japan. The Dutch are famous for their height. Brazil has such a diverse ethnicity.
Another factor is corruption. I heard there's a connection around Shanghai region. There are so many players from two teams based in Shanghai in the Chinese national team. I mean if they loose to HongKong, which is practically a city team it means their national team doesn't consist of the best players in the country. Education cannot be a reason to be worse than Korea. Since Koreans are also crazy about education and young players don't get general education that much.
With China's ambitions they want to be the next Brazil when it comes to soccer.
PRC prefer basketball over football...poor grassroots participation
I think on grassroots level table tennis and badminton are big in China.
In the first place, there is a prestigious soccer school in China, but it's strange that you can't enter without money. Soccer should be played even by children in slums. When I was a kid and a soccer ball exploded, adults bought me one for kids like me. Soccer should be played by everyine
Fr I don't get how china is so bad. A country that back should have a decent team.
China really lack experience professional football coaches that are tactically, technically and very knowledgable in terms of modern international training methods, Individual / team selection and inculcating the players on their ability to read the tactical dynamic of the play on the field, as well as in motivating players to achieve their full potentials. This is also a cut-throat industry where only the best players get to play for glory instead of other considerations.
Give it a few years, you need like 2-3 well off generations before the kids don't need to worry about financial success in life to give sports, arts and entertainment more growth. China hasn't seen it's massive growth until the last 20 years, that's 1 generation.
Then you have South American countries like Brazil.
@@loganmiller6879 in Brazil it's like a tradicion. Kids are born witha football under their arms. You are comparing apples with oranges. Soccer' in China is relatively new, in Brazil it's something the kids play just for fun.Also in Brazil is a opportunity to get aot of poverty for lot of people, they put 100% on it and not everyone it's successful. There are a bigger talent pool, more motivation to be great. I think only to the fact of competing it's great,because it's how you learn about you flaws , learn from your opponent and grow..It's only a sport, don't need to be politize or engage in destructive criticism. It's suppose to be fun
Whats interesting is that China is similar to canada in that their womens soccer team is pretty good but the mens soccer team sucks balls. Its a shame
Guys I reckon you should cover more on East Asians and football and use football instead of soccer and it would hit 🔥
it's called soccer, football is a completely different game. Even the japanese call it sakka.
It’s a super large field for very few to enjoy in such a crowded country.
On what basis should China be better? It's not just or even mainly about population.
Basically, the career risk of becoming football players is higher in China than Korea or Japan, for example in Korea and Japan if you turn out to be just mediocre player, you still can play in 2nd or 3rd league team. But not like that in China with higher social pressure.
More importantly, environment in Korea is very supportive when it comes to sports especially the famous one like baseball and football. They're really treat them better than idols and celebrities
@@GilangRamadhan-gi1dv do you think China don't good on sports? China just not good in football doesn't mean not good on any sport. Chinese national male basketball team won more FIBA's Asian Cup than Japanese and Korean combined. Also, Chinese are good on badminton for both genders.
They are damn good at weightlifting though. But yea, it's not a team sport. Badminton can be a team sport with and they are also really good at it.
I’m realising being a semi professional player means im top 200 Hong Kong players 😂😢
*football
as a fan in China, I don't see many those fancy moves from pro players here. i wish some of them could, lol
soccer league system fail..... corruption so best player cannot be discovered
As a Chinese I'd say it's because of the system. It's the reason for Everything about CN If you know you know
Like a lot of China's current problems, it may also be rooted in the Single Child policy. There are actually studies showing that YOUNGER siblings are significantly more likely to be elite athletes. I think the reasons should be obvious, but I would imagine this especially affects teamwork. People with siblings just have such a huge advantage when it comes to social skills, and communication and probably non-verbal communication as well. I think the reason women don't have as much of an issue is because women are just naturally more social so the lack of siblings don't impact them as much.
Just think of an elite team sport athlete and then google their name + siblings. I couldn't find a single one who didn't have siblings.
LeBron James
@@venture.brothers exception does not prove the rule. I also clearly stated it’s “significantly more likely” not “the only ones who can be.” The ratio is still heavily in favor of people with siblings.
@@bigheadrhino lol not debating the point (though your argument would've been better served had you actually posted those studies). But you said you couldn't find a single example. And I find one easily by just googling the number 1 basketball player lol
@umbrellastudio7481 male team sports? They do well and individual sports for sure.
중국에선 축구를 부자들만 할수 있다고 함. 중산층은 감히 시작자체를 못해서 중국의 메시 호날두는 농사짓는다는 말이 있음