Improving the national team and their success on the international stages could get them more talented players, and it can increase interest and support from fans leading to higher ticket and merchandise sales or even more broadcast licensing deals, more sponsorships as well as inspiring grassroots development, more youth participation etc. Still it takes a lot of money and time but not a bad investment, both the international teams and clubs could get tons of benefits from improvements in football. If they only focus on money, the current situations just don't make sense since the govt is more than capable of funding. China is not a 3rd world country. It's more like they're simply not interested in football than money wise
Yeah. Pakistan has a terrible economy to build a proper football system. Bangladesh has passionate football fans but corrupt federation India had terrible and corrupt management and lack of crowd support and funds
@@dashtoroya2838 true about the other 2 nations, on the Indian part I'll beg to differ as there are many football fans here but unfortunately all of them follow European leagues and not Indian football because of the supreme quality of European leagues and highly inefficient Indian football. That's we follow cricket, tennis, and badminton and somewhat hockey where we win quite often.
But soccer is only one sport. They do well in many other sports like in the summer Olympics. The 2020 Tokyo Olympics, China was second place in the medal count just behind the US.
It is perplexing why China is not doing as well as Japan and S.Korea, the other two East Asian nations. There are a few Japanese and S.Korean players playing in the English Premier League (Son Heung-min, the Tottenham Hotspur captain, being the most successful and well-known) but there is not a single Chinese player. The recent corruption scandal affecting the China Football Association does not help.
Dutch coach Guus Hiddink became coach of the South Korean national team for the 2002 World Cup. Hiddink was culturally shocked when he started in South Korea. For example, (older) South Korean players with the most played games were always called up. Even though they played poorly, they had to be called up. Hiddink changed this because he believed that the best players should be drafted young or old. Hiddink was widely criticized for disrespecting the South Korean hierarchy. High-ranking officials from the South Korean Football Association also got involved with the team. But Hiddink said he decides who will play and how. Ultimately, Guus Hiddink finished 4th at the 2002 World Cup. Thanks to Hiddink, South Korean football became very professionalized and many South Korean players left for European football competitions.
South Korea finished 4th at the 2002 WC only because of referee help in the knockout stages, they were co-hosts so it was convenient for FIFA to have the Koreans go far in the tournament. After that WC, South Korea hasn't done great things in other tournaments.
@@gerardocaceres3905they reached the last four of the Olympics in in London,were finalists at under 20 fifa world cup in France 2019, have reached last 16 twice. I think they have done pretty well
@@lazarousmuzandu2568 This is about the senior team, not the youth team. In regards to the two times they reached the round of 16, the first one was by pure luck, only the second one, which was only in the latest WC, was notorious.
Well because unlike China where they are getting funded. No money is given to Indian football. The football league doesn't care about Indian performances in Asian cups or even going to the world cup. They wanted indian players to stick with the league.
@@MARKCRASTO The most watched sport in China is football. Chinese National Football Team always make the headlines online. Almost everyone knows one or two football stars and talk about football .The problem in China is that in real life, few people participate in football. Similarly, few people participate in other sports. Chinese people are busy making money.but Indians seem to have little interest in and knowledge of football
I remember listening to Cameron 4:18 on the podcast Chinese Whispers about this exact issue. One of the main themes was because of China's selection process at young ages and straight shotting them to elite clubs. There's no middle leagues for local clubs, for lesser players to develop through, no culture of the sport and of course there's only focus on one sport performance rather than multi-disciplinary strategies for athletics.
China with its 1.5 billion people can't even field a competitive team that can qualify for the World Cup. Small nations like Urugary and Croatia with less than 4 million can assemble world-class teams that compete at the highest level.
The only reason China reached the 2002 world cup was because Korea and Japan automatically qualified due to being hosts. So 2 spots were vacant and they still barely made it. lol.
Contrary to this video, football _is_ popular in China. UEFA club matches are broadcast all over Chinese TV and generate massive numbers of viewers, so much so that Chinese ads even run on the sidelines during those matches. Notice the large number of Chinese ads that run during Euro, Copa America, and World Cup tournaments? Chinese audiences are watching the more talented competitions. China just can't get its own league and national team right.
I think the narrator in the video meant that football is not a popular with regards to participation at the youth level. It is certainly popular on TV.
I have never been to China, but there is one thing that I noticed on Google Maps. Despite the large rural population, I have looked aroune to see the extent to which rural areas just have fields that can be suitable for playing football and other large team sports. There are very few. Very very few. I spent an entire hour looking a Jiangsu and I did not find a single even half decent foorball field in rural areas of Jiangsu. Not one. Go check it out yourselves.
@@AJayZy Yeah, but why would they advertise on billboards for UEFA and international matches in Chinese if they didn't think it'd be a worthwhile investment? And these aren't minuscule companies no one's heard of either; these are companies like Hisense, TCL, and Alibaba.
@@johnnybaum7957 Basketball, team tennis. This is coming from a country where none of these sports originate from nore is there a culture around them,That 'Eastern collectivist vs Western individualist' idea is simply a stereotype of the crudest sort. There are cultural differences of course but they're a lot more complex than such a dichotomous view.
Just like what happened in Kazakhstan. Full of corrupts who thought bribing UEFA with oil after joining in 2002, only to realise Kazakhs are not enthusiastic about football and the whole football gamble is a huge state failure. And we are facing the damages left behind by the Kazakhs.
Dear @SaudiGod, you haven't seen Kazakhstan's true footballing quality. They're bad from top to bottom, mismanaged like in China. While they surprisingly outperformed in Euro 2024 qualifiers, they still lost to Finland and Slovenia, both have far smaller population pool. And they even lost to the UAE, Luxembourg, Armenia and Azerbaijan, to be precise.
Issue of Chinese football. Too much individuality because of the closed in work culture of the country. Many parents keep their kids at home to study which limits their interactions and time to play sports. Also, sports occupations in China is not a very viable future career path. This lack of socializing at the youth level leads to structure and lack of creativity. Meaning there's no vision, there's no passion, there's no creativity, etc.
Because they don’t allow lots of foreigners to participate in school games and sometimes they are intimidated by international students when they play against them I could remember 2020 we international played against Chinese students we defeated them in the finals 6-0 and they never allowed us to participate in the next year competitions. They are easily intimidated when they play against us I don’t know why
Philippines beat China in world Cup and beat China again in Asian Games in their own court and oly finished 3rd. China did not even qualify in FIBA Olympic qualifiers. Basketball is doing bad as much as Football. 1 Billion population can't even find 12 players that can beat the Philippines? What a shame.
Thierry Henry did say that football requires more (creative) brains than brawn. This is not a diss, but mainland Chinese are mainly innovators meaning they take X and make it faster, bigger and bolder. But football requires players who can create X, Y and Z and not just 1 but at minimum 23 or 25 of them for a full squad. You can be faster, stronger, and have prodigious stamina but if you can't create chances, your team is not going anywhere.
The countries that excel at team sports are democracy, because democracy is a team sport. People who are brought up in China simply don't have that mentality.
@@sieteocho Not true at all. The Soviet Union once dominated team sports. The former Yugoslavia did as well. This is a China problem, not a lack-of-democracy problem.
I think it's a culture problem. Football is popular in China, but many parents see it as a bad career choice to be in. Meaning parents would encourage their kids to do studying more than football and would intentionally restrict their ability to play footy so that their kids can study.
To put it simply: - Bad National Organization - Bad Mentality on Recruiting youths. - Bad Coaching - Bad Development approach. - Bad Attitude This applies to both China's Men and Women's team (More so on men) for soccer, basketball, volleyball. They put way too much emphasis on height rather than talent, attitude, growth, and resilience.
During my university exchange at Tsinghua University I played for my department football team where some of my teammates were even playing for the Tsinghua school team! Individually many of them were excellent football players, but at the same time seriously lacking in terms of teamwork and tactical understanding. I believe that is what needs to change in Chinese football overall for the country to be successful.
@@dohboy88well no one cares about American football either except American so what's your point? Still China is top gold medalist country in olympic not like India like what gold India has? Only 7! I can count in my finger. Even for almost same population, india still can't find talented athlete, that's the true asia humiliation.
China needs to develop talent instead of relying on overseas players. If Japan and Korea can do it then China can do it too. They need to find a style that suits for their players
Your Neighbour INDIA with 1.4 Billion population also has the same problem. Just like CSL , the ISL will go bankrupt because the corporates aren't here for football development but personal profit 😂😂
Lol, focussing on the world cup .... But there League is still very very very bad, realy bad. Focus first on there Super League, to surpass the K-league and J-League. Then you can dream to perform better on the World Cup.
Nothing wrong with being ambitious, but the system is too rigid and too prone to corruption. Money can't fix every problem (and in many cases, such as this one, can make it worse).
Take out corruption. Revamp the CFA and put the right people. Try to win the AFC U 12 U15 U18 and U22 first before tslking about world cup. Same goes for bask, basketball volleyball water polo, field hockey....any sports that requires 3 or more participants. Football requires goals to be scored. If u cannot score, you dont win. Emphasis on scoring in tight situation - tight marking, split second powered shots, no stoppage accurate shots or deflection shots like in hockey. Start at the grassroot. Put people who loves the sports not political appointee. Use a yardstick tournsment like above. Empowermrnt of Coach n Manager plus responsibility. Audit checks n whistleblowing to detect corruption within football clubs, coaches, managers n officials.
Essentially the Chinese government, like Saudi Arabia, can't buy passion, a culture and creativity. With many other sports, especially when competed in pairs and individually, you can approach them in a way that with enough training, you can beat the best opponents. It's about strength, precision, synchronization. Football isn't like that. Its an art form, where people of all shapes and sizes find a position. You don't have to be perfect, or strong, or sometimes even skillful. You find your place within the team and the tactics can suit you. So much of football isn't even the game itself, it's the mentality behind it. So called 'sh-thousery'. Jose Mourinho shows how important it is and it;'s why you have upsets in football. The small sides can beat the big teams when on their own home turf, with their own crowd behind, and with a passion and drive which pushes the bigger teams to a shock result. China has never had a culture that embraces football. It embraces a team culture where everyone is the same. Everyone pulls their weight. Individuality takes a side seat. That's useful to an extent, but if you don't have a culture where players have learnt creative expression or how to take risk individually, how can they make those magical moments in a match that so often win games and inspire a generation to play? The clip of all of the kids moving in sync with the footballs in their hands made me laugh. It highlights the absurdity around the mentality around football there. Other comments have said it better than I have, but first, you need to build a culture around football that's genuine. You can't see it as an academic pursuit like they do with other extracurricular clubs. It's not like piano lessons. When you have that, you'll have talent rise up and fulfil China's wants. If you keep viewing football through a 'how will this benefit my child's studies or position in society' view, you'll continue to have rising stars fails in their teen years and continue to have clubs which are focused on looking successful, rather than building a base for future success.
I think overall China has more people and opportunities for kids to compete and play in football lol. India has a large population but most of them won't get opportunities to be the best in any industry. China has a low gdp per capita but 100's of millions will be able to go to school and get a chance at least.
@@aoh4905 Don't forget the fact that cricket is by far the biggest sport in India, which obviously causes a significant reduction of talent influx into football. Also, football there is considered a working class sport since the British rule, which makes the sport even less interesting for the growing middle class in India.
@@aoh4905 nuuh talking of opportunities, bring into account how Africa has been successful in producing big talents across Europe. We all know Africa has limited infrastructure and investment in the sport
It must really irk the Chinese seeing how well Japan and S Korea are doing. They’re miles ahead in terms of development with their best players doing well in Europe.
Based on my understanding, you can find about one gifted football player in 200,000 players. China has a large population, but a tiny population of football players. In China, the player's pool is too small to draw gifted players, let alone develop gifted players into football talents or even football legends. In other countries, kids, teenagers and adults play football for fun or being active, no one aims to be a professional player to start with. In China, parents send kids to play football for a possibility of professional career but not for fun or being active. If your chance is only 1/200,000 to be successful, it makes perfect sense that Chinese parents don't want their kids to play football to start with.
Come on man stop with all these lies! The truth why China is so bad in soccer is because Chinese men are very weak and they have no soccer skills at all.
The same problem is with the Indian football team that despite having almost the same population, 11 elite football players cannot be produced. I wonder how Japan and South Korea are doing so well at football.🤷🏻
First world countries have better infrastructure and laws to support the countries sports or any other events. China and India are still way behind in terms of those 2.
Corruption is the problems in footballs world, it is happened in the west beore . china pours hundreds of billions in football. china was the country invented football... orginally... to be a super power in football, china needs to get rid of corruptions and matchs fixing. when you see a strong teams defeated by a weaken teams again and again.. when the rich clubs owner let their fat sons and family play on the fields .. it is a joke and a comedy show. you can buy a position in the national teams.llol. Football is chinese national sport, shame on the greedy coachs, club owners that destroyed china football. About time, they let the real talents get on the fields, not who you know.
When you look at the roster of the Chinese men's national team you will notice that all the players play their club football in China. That is a problem. Their best players should be playing in European league with tougher opposition.
If China fails then no hope for my India. Chinese are trying very hard but yet they are not getting results. It discourages me . We have to face the same mockery why so many people, but not a world cup .🤧
@@fishyfish6510 Team sports are not a men's thing. The women do much better in team sports. The women's football team has made it to both an Olympic and World Cup final, and the women's volleyball team has won Olympic gold multiple times.
I lived in China for 5 years. Their system of handpicking candidates (subject to corruption) and just putting all their resources into them while ignoring the grass roots pool of talent is the problem. It may work for gymnastics or swimming but not footbal. I noticed students with talent were told to focus on their schooling instead of waste time playing football. Creativity with free play (foot-sol) was never fostered either. Static plays and moves.
Firstly we define football is just game that everyone can enjoy. It is problem that huge investment strongly changes Chinese football as big business by Chinese goverment ,company etc... It confuses Chinese footballer
In my opinion, there's two segments of the football world. The nations with older, established football associations (typically the European and South American powers), and nations with a less established one (typically nations within AFC, CAF, CONCACAF,). For all nations, a key factor in player development is the global movement of coaches and players but this is especially true for less established nations. Even though this isn't a perfect rating system, let's review the FIFA Men's Rankings and look at successful nations from AFC, CAF, CONCACAF. AFC (Asia): Japan, Iran, South Korea and Australia are full of players who play abroad and many of these nations have technical coaches who either developed outside their home nation or are foreign coaches. CAF (Africa): The same is true in Africa. Morocco's deep World Cup run in 2022 was spurred on by players like Achraf Hakimi and Hakim Ziyech, who both play in UEFA nations. African nations have seen tremendous growth in football from the exchange of talent and coaches, many African nations like Morocco, Senegal, Nigeria, and Côte d'Ivoire are led by players who play in Europe. CONCACAF: The United States, Canada, Panama and Costa Rica have seen increased prominence from a player development standpoint from sending younger players outside their home countries. Mexico's recent decline is partly attributed to a lack of international crossover. Academic rigor does not explain China's inability to field a competitive men's football program for multiple reasons. 1. There are other nations within AFC who also share academic challenges and schooling difficulties. Japan and South Korea are clear examples of tough schooling and a capable senior men's side. 2. China's individual athletes thrive in sports. The academic workload of a footballer and a gymnast are the same, and the gymnast probably has a more grueling athletic schedule than the footballer. 3. China fields a capable Women's football program. Currently ranked 19th in the World (lowest in program history), China has qualified for the last 3 Women's World Cups and was a runner up in 1999, and won the AFC Asian Women's Cup in 2022.
Apart from Japan and South Korea, its a common problem in the region, be it in Northeast or Southeast Asia. The sport is famous for its unprofitability, and there's no money to maintain grassroot development. As if it's still not enough, there's always corrupt practice whenever any funds got available.
Team sports just aren’t a thing with the Chinese. Also doesn’t help when games in the Chinese pro leagues already have their outcomes decides well before games are played.
Like the US, China's women's team excels where the men keep falling short. They're not as strong as they once were, but they're still very respectable internationally.
@@ZhangtheGreat While USMNT has recent woos, they are still ranked #16 in the world. Still not very successful, but it is considered quite respectable.
@@chipbug Sure, but we have to admit: in the US (as in China), women rule the pitch. The women are expected to win every tournament, while the men get a whoopty-doo if they just make it to the knockout stage.
02:25 - yeah...what you are missing here is that China has way more people than Japan and Iceland...so it doesn't need to have as many registered football players to have way more registered football players than Japan and Iceland overall.
Arsene Wenger is the right person to change Chinese men's football and Wenger deserves to be appointed as technical director of the Chinese football association
Chinese have no soccer skills and are very weak physically that's why they are so bad st soccer! Look at Japan we just defeated Paraguay 5 to 0 st the Paris Olympics. We make Asia proud but China bring humiliation to Asia.
Corruption isnt the major problem. Take an example of South America, they are evidently more corrupt than China. On the other hand, their clubs play better soccer, and produce many world class talents.
The Chinese Government indeed did not fail to set the priorities for their country. It is the priorities of the Communist Party of China that should be placed at first. These include: Chinese Culture, Industrialization (that is Manufacturing and Export), Research, Science and Technology, Energy, Social Welfare, Agriculture, Infrastructure, and last but not the least, the Military (People's Liberation Army) that is the main priority. The sports program is not the top priority. I hope all those who watch this video should understand what are the priorities of the Communist Party of China which is the governing body of the country.
Like the same issues in India and some SEA countries, China has no “morals” and “ethics” when it comes to business. What matters is only profit. The problems are then much magnified by the massive population.
Name one team sports that China excel at on the world stage and name 20 individual sports that China excel at on the world stage... This thing happens because their developmental of the youth are prioritizing indiividual talent instead of teamworks
You can look at most country with gold olympic medal, China is top gold medal country in olympic. Are they only excel individual sport in list many sport they win? I doubt it. China only view soccer as money milking machine that's the problem.
Why does a nation have to try to win at every sport? China has olympic gold medalists in many diverse sports, ranging from strength (weight lifting) to grace (gymnastics and diving), and many other things besides. As a Swedish person, the olympic table tennis players of China are especially impressive. Our Swedish table tennis players have had so many fantastic battles with the Chinese players -- it's wonderful to watch these competitions and see how both nations have excelled at this sport. I think nations should focus more on the sports that that have a very strong tradition in their culture and showcase their skill and excellence in those sports, and enjoy the successes in those.
No one cares about Olympics. Soccer gives you the most clout and everything else is like less than 1% of the world's population knows about it. Soccer is #1 for country's pride and probably baseball since NFL/NBA aren't global enough but baseball is big in US, Centrral and South America, East Asia and some western European countries. Soccer is EVERYWHERE.
@@aoh4905 Yes. US China and India can win all of their sport country but if they want to be respected and have a worldwide impact they need to become better at football No event in history surpassed the 2022 WC in term of engagement and hype, more than 4 Billion watched atleast one match and i think than the whole world even in some random island or in groeland atleast heard of it and known it. there are nothing in this world more known than it, you can put india china population and all US star than it stil would never get close
No one cares about olympic?? Lol this soccer fanboys, a lot country didn't care about soccer, but every country cares about olympic medal simply because olympic has more prestige than a single sport.
@@livanwijaya8340 lol football got 4 billion views olmypics only 2 billion nobody care dude football alone is bigger than all olympics sport put together
@@Kishinoo still football is less relevant than olympic, all country care about olympic medal, and a lot country didn't care about soccer, only European and some south American country who care. No sport better than other.
The Chinese Government indeed did not fail to set the priorities for their country. It is the priorities of the Communist Party of China that should be placed at first. The Priorities are such as follows: Chinese Culture, Economy, Industrialization (that is Manufacturing and Export), Research, Science and Technology, Energy, Social Welfare, Agriculture, Infrastructure, and last but not the least, the Military (People's Liberation Army) that is the main priority. The sports program is not the top priority. I hope all those who watch this video should understand what are the priorities of the Communist Party of China which is the governing body of the country.
Differentiate between naturalization carried out by China and the Indonesian Diaspora Remember, a long time ago, even the Indonesian diaspora helped the Dutch It's time for Indonesia to rise
Lack of facilities, isn't an excuse, people just not that interested. In Brazil the kids from poorest areas that doesn't have a pair legit shoes but still plays and working magic with the soccer ball.
The culture favours personal achievement. Look at the Spanish team in Euro. You can see how one needs to put away the personal ego to achieve ultimate success in team sport.
Only focusing on money, not ability, this is the biggest problem of Chinese football
No Chinese are just really weak people plus they have absolutely no soccer skills
No Chinese men are just really weak and they have absolutely no soccer skills at all
football is rough. better focus on math and engineering
Improving the national team and their success on the international stages could get them more talented players, and it can increase interest and support from fans leading to higher ticket and merchandise sales or even more broadcast licensing deals, more sponsorships as well as inspiring grassroots development, more youth participation etc. Still it takes a lot of money and time but not a bad investment, both the international teams and clubs could get tons of benefits from improvements in football.
If they only focus on money, the current situations just don't make sense since the govt is more than capable of funding. China is not a 3rd world country.
It's more like they're simply not interested in football than money wise
Investment, sponsoring, face-saving
China almost exiting the 2026 World Cup qualifying early in the group stage, thanks to the Singapore goalkeeper 😅
As Korean, that was indeed a miracle🎉
Watching one of the largest populations in the world like china , india, pakistan, Bangladesh stands no where in football is kind of funny but sad.
Yeah. Pakistan has a terrible economy to build a proper football system.
Bangladesh has passionate football fans but corrupt federation
India had terrible and corrupt management and lack of crowd support and funds
@@dashtoroya2838 true about the other 2 nations, on the Indian part I'll beg to differ as there are many football fans here but unfortunately all of them follow European leagues and not Indian football because of the supreme quality of European leagues and highly inefficient Indian football. That's we follow cricket, tennis, and badminton and somewhat hockey where we win quite often.
But soccer is only one sport. They do well in many other sports like in the summer Olympics. The 2020 Tokyo Olympics, China was second place in the medal count just behind the US.
@@albertsmith99 it's also about priorities too.
Indonesia?😮
It is perplexing why China is not doing as well as Japan and S.Korea, the other two East Asian nations. There are a few Japanese and S.Korean players playing in the English Premier League (Son Heung-min, the Tottenham Hotspur captain, being the most successful and well-known) but there is not a single Chinese player. The recent corruption scandal affecting the China Football Association does not help.
Racism
@@Jsarmy87124yes other countries level their football's skills by naturalizing. China not 😢
@@GoLiveJeez go look at the Chinese national team & see how many naturalised players are there. you know absolutely nothing
@@Jsarmy87124 How so? Can you tell a Japanese, S.Korean and a Chinese apart?
And more worst China is top dog in Olympics. At least USA team could play in world cup despite football not even their first sports
u forgot about the shaolin master soccer team🤣
I hope to see a new sequel, I mean team, from them 😂
Was looking for this comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dutch coach Guus Hiddink became coach of the South Korean national team for the 2002 World Cup. Hiddink was culturally shocked when he started in South Korea. For example, (older) South Korean players with the most played games were always called up. Even though they played poorly, they had to be called up. Hiddink changed this because he believed that the best players should be drafted young or old. Hiddink was widely criticized for disrespecting the South Korean hierarchy. High-ranking officials from the South Korean Football Association also got involved with the team. But Hiddink said he decides who will play and how. Ultimately, Guus Hiddink finished 4th at the 2002 World Cup. Thanks to Hiddink, South Korean football became very professionalized and many South Korean players left for European football competitions.
South Korea finished 4th at the 2002 WC only because of referee help in the knockout stages, they were co-hosts so it was convenient for FIFA to have the Koreans go far in the tournament. After that WC, South Korea hasn't done great things in other tournaments.
@@gerardocaceres3905they reached the last four of the Olympics in in London,were finalists at under 20 fifa world cup in France 2019, have reached last 16 twice. I think they have done pretty well
@@lazarousmuzandu2568 This is about the senior team, not the youth team. In regards to the two times they reached the round of 16, the first one was by pure luck, only the second one, which was only in the latest WC, was notorious.
Indian football national team situation is most worst than china😞
Well because unlike China where they are getting funded.
No money is given to Indian football. The football league doesn't care about Indian performances in Asian cups or even going to the world cup. They wanted indian players to stick with the league.
@@dashtoroya2838 Its because you guys focus too much on Cricket which is only popular in certain countries.
@@johnnybaum7957True af
@@MARKCRASTO The most watched sport in China is football. Chinese National Football Team always make the headlines online. Almost everyone knows one or two football stars and talk about football
.The problem in China is that in real life, few people participate in football. Similarly, few people participate in other sports. Chinese people are busy making money.but Indians seem to have little interest in and knowledge of football
what happens if india football team vs china football team, i think they make people laugh heir teeth off, i guess
Meanwhile 5mil population of Croatia or Portugal produce some of the best national team.
Reaching the Finals and a 3rd place spot too.
But can they make shirts for $3 a day salary?
I remember listening to Cameron 4:18 on the podcast Chinese Whispers about this exact issue. One of the main themes was because of China's selection process at young ages and straight shotting them to elite clubs. There's no middle leagues for local clubs, for lesser players to develop through, no culture of the sport and of course there's only focus on one sport performance rather than multi-disciplinary strategies for athletics.
China with its 1.5 billion people can't even field a competitive team that can qualify for the World Cup.
Small nations like Urugary and Croatia with less than 4 million can assemble world-class teams that compete at the highest level.
Don’t forget Iceland and their Mid-late 2010s squad. 🇮🇸 population of Around 300k, yet made a huge surprise
i see your point. we need immigrants!
@@shawnz3307nonsense.
What are you trying to say? No country is perfect. Are you a ruler of some great nation?
Football is an expensive sport in China. Ordinary Chinese people need to pay very high fees to practice football
The only reason China reached the 2002 world cup was because Korea and Japan automatically qualified due to being hosts. So 2 spots were vacant and they still barely made it. lol.
bingo!! you said it!! 👍🏻
Contrary to this video, football _is_ popular in China. UEFA club matches are broadcast all over Chinese TV and generate massive numbers of viewers, so much so that Chinese ads even run on the sidelines during those matches. Notice the large number of Chinese ads that run during Euro, Copa America, and World Cup tournaments? Chinese audiences are watching the more talented competitions. China just can't get its own league and national team right.
I think the narrator in the video meant that football is not a popular with regards to participation at the youth level. It is certainly popular on TV.
It is not a popular PARTICIPATORY sport in China.
I have never been to China, but there is one thing that I noticed on Google Maps. Despite the large rural population, I have looked aroune to see the extent to which rural areas just have fields that can be suitable for playing football and other large team sports. There are very few. Very very few. I spent an entire hour looking a Jiangsu and I did not find a single even half decent foorball field in rural areas of Jiangsu. Not one. Go check it out yourselves.
The ads just mean they have marketing budgets lol
@@AJayZy Yeah, but why would they advertise on billboards for UEFA and international matches in Chinese if they didn't think it'd be a worthwhile investment? And these aren't minuscule companies no one's heard of either; these are companies like Hisense, TCL, and Alibaba.
China does not do well playing in Team sports and spending lots of money does not guarantee a World Cup!
They do fine in team sports
@@MicroCaletus no they don't
@@gbjb6606 They do fine.
@@MicroCaletus Like what?
@@johnnybaum7957 Basketball, team tennis. This is coming from a country where none of these sports originate from nore is there a culture around them,That 'Eastern collectivist vs Western individualist' idea is simply a stereotype of the crudest sort. There are cultural differences of course but they're a lot more complex than such a dichotomous view.
Football is a game of passion and creative. You go nowhere if you are trained to play like robots and play with fear of failures
Chinese are just weaklings and have no soccer skills at all 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just like what happened in Kazakhstan. Full of corrupts who thought bribing UEFA with oil after joining in 2002, only to realise Kazakhs are not enthusiastic about football and the whole football gamble is a huge state failure. And we are facing the damages left behind by the Kazakhs.
Astana played in the CL groups stage & Kazakhstan almost qualified for the euros
I am surprised how SCMP is doing censorship in comment. So disappointing.
Dear @SaudiGod, you haven't seen Kazakhstan's true footballing quality. They're bad from top to bottom, mismanaged like in China. While they surprisingly outperformed in Euro 2024 qualifiers, they still lost to Finland and Slovenia, both have far smaller population pool. And they even lost to the UAE, Luxembourg, Armenia and Azerbaijan, to be precise.
@@jotarokujo9164 They only won against San Marino in the past year. Lol
Issue of Chinese football. Too much individuality because of the closed in work culture of the country. Many parents keep their kids at home to study which limits their interactions and time to play sports. Also, sports occupations in China is not a very viable future career path. This lack of socializing at the youth level leads to structure and lack of creativity. Meaning there's no vision, there's no passion, there's no creativity, etc.
照你的理论，那么中国就不该有任何体育成就。所以你还是回去好好读书吧。
@@shawnz3307 I support Guangzhou FC, what about you?
Basketball is the same… team sports just aren’t doing well there
no basketball is fine in china players from the nba come and play here and we came 8th in the world cup
Basketball market in China is larger than any country
@@xuanmingtang3227used to be ,Now Its not dominant in Asia no more
Because they don’t allow lots of foreigners to participate in school games and sometimes they are intimidated by international students when they play against them I could remember 2020 we international played against Chinese students we defeated them in the finals 6-0 and they never allowed us to participate in the next year competitions. They are easily intimidated when they play against us I don’t know why
Philippines beat China in world Cup and beat China again in Asian Games in their own court and oly finished 3rd. China did not even qualify in FIBA Olympic qualifiers. Basketball is doing bad as much as Football. 1 Billion population can't even find 12 players that can beat the Philippines? What a shame.
When kids have to study from 6am to 9pm( No joke that is the curriculum), how would any kids discover they have any sport talent.
Sports talent ?? They wins most no of Gold in olympics
@@nikhilkumarchaudhary1804 do you have trouble reading English?
@@nikhilkumarchaudhary1804what about the world Cup, Futbol is not serious in the Olympics.
This is the fact about India and china
@@HenryHoang-xGold Medalist Olympians are waving at you. 👋
I think china prefer individual sports rather than team sports
不用区分开来 中国年轻人很少有喜欢运动的 没有那个氛围整天就是学习和游戏
Thierry Henry did say that football requires more (creative) brains than brawn.
This is not a diss, but mainland Chinese are mainly innovators meaning they take X and make it faster, bigger and bolder.
But football requires players who can create X, Y and Z and not just 1 but at minimum 23 or 25 of them for a full squad.
You can be faster, stronger, and have prodigious stamina but if you can't create chances, your team is not going anywhere.
Thierry is a perfect example of brains over brawn. He knows the recipe.
*Masters, not innovators
i think teamwork is not their profession, as they want to play as one man army...
The countries that excel at team sports are democracy, because democracy is a team sport. People who are brought up in China simply don't have that mentality.
@sieteocho this is not true. Look at the former Yugoslavia. This sort of rhetoric your spewing is just so politically charged. Yuck
@@sieteocho Not true at all. The Soviet Union once dominated team sports. The former Yugoslavia did as well. This is a China problem, not a lack-of-democracy problem.
I think it's a culture problem. Football is popular in China, but many parents see it as a bad career choice to be in. Meaning parents would encourage their kids to do studying more than football and would intentionally restrict their ability to play footy so that their kids can study.
@@sieteocho China is bad at a singular sport , some random youtuber chud " mUst bE lAcK oF dEmOcRaCy gUys"
To put it simply:
- Bad National Organization
- Bad Mentality on Recruiting youths.
- Bad Coaching
- Bad Development approach.
- Bad Attitude
This applies to both China's Men and Women's team (More so on men) for soccer, basketball, volleyball. They put way too much emphasis on height rather than talent, attitude, growth, and resilience.
During my university exchange at Tsinghua University I played for my department football team where some of my teammates were even playing for the Tsinghua school team! Individually many of them were excellent football players, but at the same time seriously lacking in terms of teamwork and tactical understanding. I believe that is what needs to change in Chinese football overall for the country to be successful.
What doesn't help is the clubs are owned by businesses, there's no real grassroots development of the sport and the government
Cause its just not their sport. Like how ping pong and swimming is mostly their sports to win
Japan just defeated Paraguay 5 to 0 in Paris Olmpics! We bring joy and pride to Asia but China is an absolute humiliation for Asia.
Is 40 gold medals a humiliation to you?
@@1.4billion65 individual sports only man when it comes to team sports that's physically rigorous China is trash
@@1.4billion65 this was a big humiliation for you I know you are very angry and very mad but I don't care weak Chinese boy
@@1.4billion65 Nobody cares when the sports are ping pong and shooting.
@@dohboy88well no one cares about American football either except American so what's your point? Still China is top gold medalist country in olympic not like India like what gold India has? Only 7! I can count in my finger. Even for almost same population, india still can't find talented athlete, that's the true asia humiliation.
Same thing in South Africa. Huge sponsorships, world class stadiums, large salaries but zero talent
China needs to develop talent instead of relying on overseas players. If Japan and Korea can do it then China can do it too. They need to find a style that suits for their players
Your Neighbour INDIA with 1.4 Billion population also has the same problem.
Just like CSL , the ISL will go bankrupt because the corporates aren't here for football development but personal profit 😂😂
Lol, focussing on the world cup .... But there League is still very very very bad, realy bad.
Focus first on there Super League, to surpass the K-league and J-League. Then you can dream to perform better on the World Cup.
Nothing wrong with being ambitious, but the system is too rigid and too prone to corruption. Money can't fix every problem (and in many cases, such as this one, can make it worse).
If there's one thing the US and China have in common, it is disappointing national teams
China's team is much worse than the US team.
At least US is competative and actually qualifies to worldcups and even makes knockout rounds
What us and china also have in common the world best economies and the most powerful military something eu or the rest of the world don't
In 10-15 years, we will come back to this video.
One child policy results 😂😂😂
Unlike other sports, football is a truly competitive global sport
They focus on money and pride, but not on teamwork, athletism, and personal growth.
Take out corruption. Revamp the CFA and put the right people. Try to win the AFC U 12 U15 U18 and U22 first before tslking about world cup. Same goes for bask, basketball volleyball water polo, field hockey....any sports that requires 3 or more participants. Football requires goals to be scored. If u cannot score, you dont win. Emphasis on scoring in tight situation - tight marking, split second powered shots, no stoppage accurate shots or deflection shots like in hockey. Start at the grassroot. Put people who loves the sports not political appointee. Use a yardstick tournsment like above. Empowermrnt of Coach n Manager plus responsibility. Audit checks n whistleblowing to detect corruption within football clubs, coaches, managers n officials.
China in Olympics: 😃😎😈👺👹🐐
China in Football:😵🤕😫😭
Essentially the Chinese government, like Saudi Arabia, can't buy passion, a culture and creativity.
With many other sports, especially when competed in pairs and individually, you can approach them in a way that with enough training, you can beat the best opponents. It's about strength, precision, synchronization.
Football isn't like that. Its an art form, where people of all shapes and sizes find a position. You don't have to be perfect, or strong, or sometimes even skillful. You find your place within the team and the tactics can suit you. So much of football isn't even the game itself, it's the mentality behind it. So called 'sh-thousery'. Jose Mourinho shows how important it is and it;'s why you have upsets in football. The small sides can beat the big teams when on their own home turf, with their own crowd behind, and with a passion and drive which pushes the bigger teams to a shock result.
China has never had a culture that embraces football. It embraces a team culture where everyone is the same. Everyone pulls their weight. Individuality takes a side seat. That's useful to an extent, but if you don't have a culture where players have learnt creative expression or how to take risk individually, how can they make those magical moments in a match that so often win games and inspire a generation to play? The clip of all of the kids moving in sync with the footballs in their hands made me laugh. It highlights the absurdity around the mentality around football there.
Other comments have said it better than I have, but first, you need to build a culture around football that's genuine. You can't see it as an academic pursuit like they do with other extracurricular clubs. It's not like piano lessons. When you have that, you'll have talent rise up and fulfil China's wants. If you keep viewing football through a 'how will this benefit my child's studies or position in society' view, you'll continue to have rising stars fails in their teen years and continue to have clubs which are focused on looking successful, rather than building a base for future success.
I lived in Saudi for 13 years and they surprisingly love their football
Don't forget their apprentice India😂
I think overall China has more people and opportunities for kids to compete and play in football lol. India has a large population but most of them won't get opportunities to be the best in any industry. China has a low gdp per capita but 100's of millions will be able to go to school and get a chance at least.
@@aoh4905 Don't forget the fact that cricket is by far the biggest sport in India, which obviously causes a significant reduction of talent influx into football. Also, football there is considered a working class sport since the British rule, which makes the sport even less interesting for the growing middle class in India.
If we can develop an environment where football offers great career opportunities then only we will see Indians playing it to earn money.
@@aoh4905 nuuh talking of opportunities, bring into account how Africa has been successful in producing big talents across Europe. We all know Africa has limited infrastructure and investment in the sport
So, anyone knew what changed from post before?
Oscar is a great football player! When he left chelsea i was sooo shocked but he fell in love with china
he fell in love with money
@@Kevin-fq3zh true.
@@Kevin-fq3zhhe didnt move to saudi somehow...
Oscar's wife has Japanese ancestry.
@tuppenceworth5485 true. . .Japan is not China tho
China should more Focus on Football ❤
This is completely my bias. Maybe countries around the world would become weaker if they formed a national team with only child?
It must really irk the Chinese seeing how well Japan and S Korea are doing. They’re miles ahead in terms of development with their best players doing well in Europe.
President Xi said We must focus on table tennis & swimming...not football. 🤣😂
Based on my understanding, you can find about one gifted football player in 200,000 players. China has a large population, but a tiny population of football players. In China, the player's pool is too small to draw gifted players, let alone develop gifted players into football talents or even football legends.
In other countries, kids, teenagers and adults play football for fun or being active, no one aims to be a professional player to start with. In China, parents send kids to play football for a possibility of professional career but not for fun or being active. If your chance is only 1/200,000 to be successful, it makes perfect sense that Chinese parents don't want their kids to play football to start with.
Come on man stop with all these lies! The truth why China is so bad in soccer is because Chinese men are very weak and they have no soccer skills at all.
The same problem is with the Indian football team that despite having almost the same population, 11 elite football players cannot be produced. I wonder how Japan and South Korea are doing so well at football.🤷🏻
First world countries have better infrastructure and laws to support the countries sports or any other events. China and India are still way behind in terms of those 2.
Corruption is the problems in footballs world, it is happened in the west beore . china pours hundreds of billions in football. china was the country invented football... orginally... to be a super power in football, china needs to get rid of corruptions and matchs fixing. when you see a strong teams defeated by a weaken teams again and again.. when the rich clubs owner let their fat sons and family play on the fields .. it is a joke and a comedy show.
you can buy a position in the national teams.llol.
Football is chinese national sport, shame on the greedy coachs, club owners that destroyed china football. About time, they let the real talents get on the fields, not who you know.
Cuju right?
I don't think being the inventor of something automatically makes you set for success.
The predecessor sport of football
When you look at the roster of the Chinese men's national team you will notice that all the players play their club football in China. That is a problem. Their best players should be playing in European league with tougher opposition.
If China fails then no hope for my India. Chinese are trying very hard but yet they are not getting results. It discourages me . We have to face the same mockery why so many people, but not a world cup .🤧
How come other sports achieved gold metals in Olympics.
Chinese excel in solo sports. Teamwork sports are just not their thing
@@fishyfish6510 Team sports are not a men's thing. The women do much better in team sports. The women's football team has made it to both an Olympic and World Cup final, and the women's volleyball team has won Olympic gold multiple times.
*medals😂
@@MARKCRASTO and ?
Since 2016 its hardly 10 years passed.
Even a 6 year old then is not eligible for the national team yet
I lived in China for 5 years. Their system of handpicking candidates (subject to corruption) and just putting all their resources into them while ignoring the grass roots pool of talent is the problem. It may work for gymnastics or swimming but not footbal. I noticed students with talent were told to focus on their schooling instead of waste time playing football. Creativity with free play (foot-sol) was never fostered either. Static plays and moves.
Firstly we define football is just game that everyone can enjoy.
It is problem that huge investment strongly changes Chinese football as big business by Chinese goverment ,company etc...
It confuses Chinese footballer
In my opinion, there's two segments of the football world. The nations with older, established football associations (typically the European and South American powers), and nations with a less established one (typically nations within AFC, CAF, CONCACAF,). For all nations, a key factor in player development is the global movement of coaches and players but this is especially true for less established nations.
Even though this isn't a perfect rating system, let's review the FIFA Men's Rankings and look at successful nations from AFC, CAF, CONCACAF.
AFC (Asia): Japan, Iran, South Korea and Australia are full of players who play abroad and many of these nations have technical coaches who either developed outside their home nation or are foreign coaches.
CAF (Africa): The same is true in Africa. Morocco's deep World Cup run in 2022 was spurred on by players like Achraf Hakimi and Hakim Ziyech, who both play in UEFA nations. African nations have seen tremendous growth in football from the exchange of talent and coaches, many African nations like Morocco, Senegal, Nigeria, and Côte d'Ivoire are led by players who play in Europe.
CONCACAF: The United States, Canada, Panama and Costa Rica have seen increased prominence from a player development standpoint from sending younger players outside their home countries. Mexico's recent decline is partly attributed to a lack of international crossover.
Academic rigor does not explain China's inability to field a competitive men's football program for multiple reasons.
1. There are other nations within AFC who also share academic challenges and schooling difficulties. Japan and South Korea are clear examples of tough schooling and a capable senior men's side.
2. China's individual athletes thrive in sports. The academic workload of a footballer and a gymnast are the same, and the gymnast probably has a more grueling athletic schedule than the footballer.
3. China fields a capable Women's football program. Currently ranked 19th in the World (lowest in program history), China has qualified for the last 3 Women's World Cups and was a runner up in 1999, and won the AFC Asian Women's Cup in 2022.
Nice video on status of Chinese football😂
Cuz everyone is Kungfu fighting in China.
Source ?
@@jacksmith-mu3ee There's man named Carl Douglas who found that out
C'mon 😢 i have certainly had that the property sector had a ripple effect on the overall economy but didn't knew it affected even my best sport😢
They are focusing on chinese 'image'(bragging) and money. Obviously it fails.
Japan 7 china 0😂😂😂
West Philippines Sea is Real 😂😂😂
China just keep going
But for me there is not Chinese player in best Eropien leags
China is yelp reviews
Apart from Japan and South Korea, its a common problem in the region, be it in Northeast or Southeast Asia. The sport is famous for its unprofitability, and there's no money to maintain grassroot development. As if it's still not enough, there's always corrupt practice whenever any funds got available.
Team sports just aren’t a thing with the Chinese. Also doesn’t help when games in the Chinese pro leagues already have their outcomes decides well before games are played.
Wow they lose to vietnam, that says a lot.
Little emperors do not play team sports.
The irony is that communism suppose to have group mentality.
@user-rk9it9hz6gthat’s cultural not economic
@user-rk9it9hz6gwtf u mean??
They should settle their scores with Taiwan with a football game.
Slightly possible if they compete as a single China team instead of 4 teams (China, Hong Kong, Macau, Chinese Taipei.)
Bow leggedness is particularly found in Chinese where it is believed that 90% of women are bowlegged. According to a folklorist, Kunio Yanagida
Its strange considering the China's women's football is ranked 14th in the world which is very respectable😅
🤔
Disguising a woman as a man has no benefit in sports.. the other way though..
Like the US, China's women's team excels where the men keep falling short. They're not as strong as they once were, but they're still very respectable internationally.
@@ZhangtheGreat While USMNT has recent woos, they are still ranked #16 in the world. Still not very successful, but it is considered quite respectable.
@@chipbug Sure, but we have to admit: in the US (as in China), women rule the pitch. The women are expected to win every tournament, while the men get a whoopty-doo if they just make it to the knockout stage.
Imagine losing to a 14 Yr old amateur player😂
4:52 football involvement kpi ✅
02:25 - yeah...what you are missing here is that China has way more people than Japan and Iceland...so it doesn't need to have as many registered football players to have way more registered football players than Japan and Iceland overall.
Arsene Wenger is the right person to change Chinese men's football and Wenger deserves to be appointed as technical director of the Chinese football association
And you think he will accept the job of coaching China??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Chinese have no soccer skills and are very weak physically that's why they are so bad st soccer! Look at Japan we just defeated Paraguay 5 to 0 st the Paris Olympics. We make Asia proud but China bring humiliation to Asia.
Corruption isnt the major problem. Take an example of South America, they are evidently more corrupt than China. On the other hand, their clubs play better soccer, and produce many world class talents.
Same situation with Indian Football as well...
Corruption and full of corruption
The Chinese Government indeed did not fail to set the priorities for their country. It is the priorities of the Communist Party of China that should be placed at first. These include: Chinese Culture, Industrialization (that is Manufacturing and Export), Research, Science and Technology, Energy, Social Welfare, Agriculture, Infrastructure, and last but not the least, the Military (People's Liberation Army) that is the main priority. The sports program is not the top priority. I hope all those who watch this video should understand what are the priorities of the Communist Party of China which is the governing body of the country.
1,409,000,000 population but still can't made it to world cup again 🤮🇨🇳
Like the same issues in India and some SEA countries, China has no “morals” and “ethics” when it comes to business. What matters is only profit. The problems are then much magnified by the massive population.
One word for you: Boeing.
China has nothing like India, stop it!
Two words: Game fixing. When your teams have no integrity, how do you expect them to develop the sport well.
That's usa
great video. i’ve wondered this myself as china is such a large country with many talented people.
this is not true! Nobody mentioned that the education system in school are the biggest problem in Chinese football.
Maybe it have something to do with China training the football players like soldiers
It is affecting the quality of their players badly
Their Chinese mind needs to be fixed so that they can grow further
They need to train using Shaolin soccer.
Name one team sports that China excel at on the world stage and name 20 individual sports that China excel at on the world stage...
This thing happens because their developmental of the youth are prioritizing indiividual talent instead of teamworks
You can look at most country with gold olympic medal, China is top gold medal country in olympic. Are they only excel individual sport in list many sport they win? I doubt it.
China only view soccer as money milking machine that's the problem.
Why does a nation have to try to win at every sport? China has olympic gold medalists in many diverse sports, ranging from strength (weight lifting) to grace (gymnastics and diving), and many other things besides.
As a Swedish person, the olympic table tennis players of China are especially impressive. Our Swedish table tennis players have had so many fantastic battles with the Chinese players -- it's wonderful to watch these competitions and see how both nations have excelled at this sport.
I think nations should focus more on the sports that that have a very strong tradition in their culture and showcase their skill and excellence in those sports, and enjoy the successes in those.
No one cares about Olympics. Soccer gives you the most clout and everything else is like less than 1% of the world's population knows about it. Soccer is #1 for country's pride and probably baseball since NFL/NBA aren't global enough but baseball is big in US, Centrral and South America, East Asia and some western European countries. Soccer is EVERYWHERE.
@@aoh4905 Yes. US China and India can win all of their sport country but if they want to be respected and have a worldwide impact they need to become better at football
No event in history surpassed the 2022 WC in term of engagement and hype, more than 4 Billion watched atleast one match and i think than the whole world even in some random island or in groeland atleast heard of it and known it. there are nothing in this world more known than it, you can put india china population and all US star than it stil would never get close
No one cares about olympic?? Lol this soccer fanboys, a lot country didn't care about soccer, but every country cares about olympic medal simply because olympic has more prestige than a single sport.
@@livanwijaya8340 lol football got 4 billion views olmypics only 2 billion nobody care dude football alone is bigger than all olympics sport put together
@@Kishinoo still football is less relevant than olympic, all country care about olympic medal, and a lot country didn't care about soccer, only European and some south American country who care.
No sport better than other.
The Chinese Government indeed did not fail to set the priorities for their country. It is the priorities of the Communist Party of China that should be placed at first. The Priorities are such as follows: Chinese Culture, Economy, Industrialization (that is Manufacturing and Export), Research, Science and Technology, Energy, Social Welfare, Agriculture, Infrastructure, and last but not the least, the Military (People's Liberation Army) that is the main priority. The sports program is not the top priority. I hope all those who watch this video should understand what are the priorities of the Communist Party of China which is the governing body of the country.
At the end of the day, the sport is an entertainment. Footballers are entertainers.
They have done their best,that’s enough.
Differentiate between naturalization carried out by China and the Indonesian Diaspora
Remember, a long time ago, even the Indonesian diaspora helped the Dutch
It's time for Indonesia to rise
Lack of facilities, isn't an excuse, people just not that interested. In Brazil the kids from poorest areas that doesn't have a pair legit shoes but still plays and working magic with the soccer ball.
It's really eye raising that why China can't make or build a world class football team... I would love to see them in Cricket 🏏 as well
Nothing wrong, just ignore it.
Wait I get it now, Stephen Chow got inspired by it and made Shaolin Soccer back in the day.
maybe they are not corrupt enough...
Not a single mention of women's football. 🤷
It is not so easy to counterfeit European football I guess… 🤔
The Chinese athletes don't do well in team sports....for some reason they do very well in individual sports
The culture favours personal achievement. Look at the Spanish team in Euro. You can see how one needs to put away the personal ego to achieve ultimate success in team sport.