Yeah I'm guilty of this too. I used to exclusively play Cryptlord first not because of any strategic reasons but because I liked bugs and he's a bug king, and I always picked Carrior Beetles because that's even more bugs.
jo gurbby i am owlwhistle and am so grateful to be appearing in this vid. thanks grubby for what you do u keep sparking my love for this game. and yes i might over do herofocus... i didnt even realize i use formations hahaha
I used to watch a series by hearthstone world champ Firebat called Deck Doctor where he would take a user submitted homebrew/strategy and Firebat would edit it to make it as competitively viable as possible while keeping the core theme intact. It's fantastic content and adapted to WC3 bronze replays, even better
When fire bat started to pull away from the scene is when I started to pull away from the scene. I think him and grubby have similar energy and I miss the dude a lot
@@MyNameIsDecember I was a massive Firebat fan, and now just getting into watching lots of grubby content and your right, they have similar vibes but I do appericate how Grubby has a very mature mentality when approaching gaming, his videos of coaching toxic players he runs into games is some of the best content on the internet
I never noticed that priests still auto-heal targets even after the player controlling them leaves the game. They really care about their team even when the player doesn't. That's pretty admirable.
Grubby thank you for your contribution to the community. I started playing Warcraft in like 2010 and sucked since then (like no chance against normal AI level). Today i won matchmaking game and Im halfway through hard mode campaign. I think it is largely thanks to you, so yeah, loving the content!
After watching you for so long, my brain thinks I'm better at Warcraft than I actually am. "Ah man, you shouldn't have let him surround you. Rookie mistake." Like I've played the game in 20 years.
The "play this build" part is something I've not seen in videos like this series. Maybe it's nothing new, but it definitely makes it more interesting that just watch lower levels. 2:58 Wait, you can actually spawn beetles from creeps, and two of them? Am I missing something or that's exactly what happened here? Creeps leave corpses you can use like that? And got two beetles like they're zerglings?
@@NewbInLife I ain't played UD in PvP and the campaign only has one per corpse to a max of five. I know multiplayer patches don't affect campaigns, so did they change it some years ago?
I loved Cryptlord back then, because it was a giant bug and looked cool. He had many cool abilities. His ultimate, his spawning of more bugs. He was a spiky bug and his Q was cool too.
low elo games can be much more entertaining to watch similarly in chess there was a series of tournaments where ecelebs with no chess knowledge were trained to play and then competed in a tournament Resulting games were very fun to watch, something similar in wc3 would be awesome
NGL when I played Undead, long before Reforged, as my offrace, I LUUURVED Crypt Lord. Sometimes I played Undead just to use the Crypt Lord. Super cool beetle hero with interesting abilities.
I honestly didn't know formations hindered the movement speed of units. I always make it a point to turn it on because I can't stand seeing my units not standing in formation whenever they're idle
Im a star craft 2 player and x league of legends player. I always thought about playing wc3 but been scared. Its a very involved hsme with similer but different hotkeys that throw me off. These bronze replays really help me get motivated to learn and try to play
6:41 Bronze Humans seek a worthy challenge, they are no longer amused when they fight with a clear advantage (Playing as human is the advantage, I don't know how, but it just is.), thus to invite attacks, they will tech castle and expand to welcome an attack with open arms.
Human advantage is having budget footmen available at all times. Creep earlier faster if you want. Power building. Arguably the best hero roster. Can’t go wrong with human.
I'm a boomer and in the old days I usually went for cryplord with early cemetery (to summon scarabs), mass spiders then dk in t2 to heal my cryptlord (spike armour to max its tankiness). Maybe I was a noob but well I had some fun and some success with that strat.
With the summon units you think it would be good for early creeping, thing is DK unholy aura is just too good. I don't think Blizzard understood the power of early creeping, which was why for the longest time Humans always started Archmage, Orcs always started Blademaster, and Undead already started DK.
I don't play online often, I own Reforged entirely (including graphics which IMO could be worse), but my heart is with 1.26. I play VS AI often, but I might try modern ladder on Reforged eventually. Anyway, I like thematic builds, including my own "names" for them like "Beetle Juice" which is Crypt Lord with Carrion Beetles & Crypt Fiends or "Feline Fury" which is POTM with Huntresses. Are they META? No, not even close, but are they fun? YES, ENTIRELY. Gimmicks are fun, unless you're losing to one, but that's beside the point. It's a shame a you can't simply win with what you enjoy most sometimes, you'll lose to paper as rock, but I feel Warcraft III has the best potential for creative strategies for an RTS. I do play with the popular old-school mod AMAI (Advance Melee AI) for single player vs AI, teams or otherwise.
I always play Cryptlord first because 1. i like his style and 2. because i really like the the early fast creeping power plus scouting with beetles and especially the AOE stun. I dont care what is meta, i think Cryptlord is cool AND strong.
Concerning formations, I think maybe it was intented as something we would turn on and off, like the formations are use in aoe2, almost like an army ability that you are supposed to toggle when needed like the flank formation is use to dodge in aoe2, and just as an option of course between two ways they could have done it, but yeah it turned out most of us just turn it off and never use it i d guess.
I think pros do turn it on sometimes to re-arrange troop formation before engaging, especially the bigger the battle. But i think having it off all the time beats having it on all the time, the disadvantage having it on is just too much
Hey Grubby, for real question from a newbie who loves the game. I like playing Orc and I noticed my worst matchup is against Undead, especially fiend and ghoul rushes. What’s the go-to counter for this? Thanks
@@Tungdil_01 I’ve tried a few strategies, some that have no payout and some that are pretty strong. Early harass can sometimes cripple their Ghoul economy and prevents a rush. If that is their plan, I think building bestiary and double rax is a good bet, with one rax producing grunts and the other one headhunters. The bestiary is really important here and I tend to build up my flying units
Me and my friend have dabbled playing off and on over the years and have had our own strats vs each other. Seeing these Bronze League Heroes series is making me want to play against others! Is the WC3 Champions active more than BNet or do each have their own advantages?
I havent been able to pllay WC3 since the latest patch. Says i have to repair it or reinstall. Ive done all of that multiple times and still says unable to load and its an endless cycle. Anyone know a sure fix?
Hi Grubby and everyone, I really wonder what’s the right place or address that I can download and play WC3 at it’s right version(rank)because u know I live in China and I can never find the right version to play online. If u know plz tell me. Thank you
Hey Grubby! This is probably a horrible stream/game idea but still throwing it out there: You could try winning a game with overall APM averaging lower than 60, or trying to find what the best build would be with little to low micro - which relates to APM. I love your content and your creativity thank you for keeping this beautiful game alive :') Cheers!
If I ever play W3 again, I already got called out at 2:40 :D Lets be fair, W3 is so old, that yes, many of the people that played it back then, are "seasoned" adults :D
i'm always so excited to watch these episodes! it's become my favorite thing on youtube as of recently actually. but it confused me, cause both this & the last episode are numbered episode 8 ^^'
this is low key rage inducing... i know its bronze league but how do you build an alchemist then spam healing spray.. then NEVER USE IT AGAIN IN THE GAME?!?!?!?!
Not sure if you are familiar with awful instagram ads that show some reaaaaly easy gameplay of a fake game, and the performance of the player is really bad. The intention of such ads is to make your blood boil with the stupidity of the decision of the "player" who play that "game" in the ad, so you'd urge to install that game and show how it supposed to be done. I am getting the same feeling when watching your bronze league videos. So you're kind of abusing the same mechanics these ads use 😂 I understand, that it is a fake feeling in case of WC3 and I will perform way worse than the players from the videos, but still can't get rid of urge to try myself 😂
Yeah I'm guilty of this too. I used to exclusively play Cryptlord first not because of any strategic reasons but because I liked bugs and he's a bug king, and I always picked Carrior Beetles because that's even more bugs.
that's how I played too
same, I love Cryptlord, he's just cool in my opinion
His might cannot be matched!
absolutely nothing wrong with playing out a fantasy you like. If you want bugs to rule the world you do it!
And you only do weavers cause bugs
jo gurbby i am owlwhistle and am so grateful to be appearing in this vid. thanks grubby for what you do u keep sparking my love for this game.
and yes i might over do herofocus...
i didnt even realize i use formations hahaha
HES NOT SURROUNDED BUT HE WANTS TO DIE! hahahaha
I used to watch a series by hearthstone world champ Firebat called Deck Doctor where he would take a user submitted homebrew/strategy and Firebat would edit it to make it as competitively viable as possible while keeping the core theme intact. It's fantastic content and adapted to WC3 bronze replays, even better
When fire bat started to pull away from the scene is when I started to pull away from the scene. I think him and grubby have similar energy and I miss the dude a lot
@@MyNameIsDecember I was a massive Firebat fan, and now just getting into watching lots of grubby content and your right, they have similar vibes but I do appericate how Grubby has a very mature mentality when approaching gaming, his videos of coaching toxic players he runs into games is some of the best content on the internet
I never noticed that priests still auto-heal targets even after the player controlling them leaves the game. They really care about their team even when the player doesn't. That's pretty admirable.
Auto cast stays. Necros keep makin skellies
Grubby thank you for your contribution to the community. I started playing Warcraft in like 2010 and sucked since then (like no chance against normal AI level). Today i won matchmaking game and Im halfway through hard mode campaign. I think it is largely thanks to you, so yeah, loving the content!
Good for you buddy! You’ll have a surprise at the end of a hard campaign
After watching you for so long, my brain thinks I'm better at Warcraft than I actually am. "Ah man, you shouldn't have let him surround you. Rookie mistake." Like I've played the game in 20 years.
Commit Mitsubishi is awesome 👍
The "play this build" part is something I've not seen in videos like this series. Maybe it's nothing new, but it definitely makes it more interesting that just watch lower levels.
2:58 Wait, you can actually spawn beetles from creeps, and two of them? Am I missing something or that's exactly what happened here? Creeps leave corpses you can use like that? And got two beetles like they're zerglings?
Yup, that's normal. You summon 2 per corpse that get progressive stronger with skill points, max 6 alive at a time.
@@NewbInLife I ain't played UD in PvP and the campaign only has one per corpse to a max of five. I know multiplayer patches don't affect campaigns, so did they change it some years ago?
@@CalciumChiefYes, it got changed from one to two beetles.
@@CalciumChiefA couple years ago. Beetles were always spawned from corpses though, not sure what you meant
22:50:00 he's not expanding, i think he is a pala rifle player
22:50:000001 our forces are under attack (pala rifle army)
22:50 here you go, functional time stamp
I loved Cryptlord back then, because it was a giant bug and looked cool. He had many cool abilities. His ultimate, his spawning of more bugs. He was a spiky bug and his Q was cool too.
low elo games can be much more entertaining to watch
similarly in chess there was a series of tournaments where ecelebs with no chess knowledge were trained to play and then competed in a tournament
Resulting games were very fun to watch, something similar in wc3 would be awesome
Watching Grubby and his top tier sarcasm is absolutely hilarious, he's losing it more and more with each episode ahahahaaha
NGL when I played Undead, long before Reforged, as my offrace, I LUUURVED Crypt Lord. Sometimes I played Undead just to use the Crypt Lord. Super cool beetle hero with interesting abilities.
I honestly didn't know formations hindered the movement speed of units. I always make it a point to turn it on because I can't stand seeing my units not standing in formation whenever they're idle
Might = unmatched
very nice I enjoy this series
Im a star craft 2 player and x league of legends player. I always thought about playing wc3 but been scared. Its a very involved hsme with similer but different hotkeys that throw me off. These bronze replays really help me get motivated to learn and try to play
@18:55 did you also not know wheres your dogs torso and wheres his head or is it just me? Cuz he just look like a bunch of wool..
oh, his head is behind chat, i see it now, nvm....
I am in LOVE with this series
clutch victory by owlwhistle... dutch WC3 community is literally in it's own league!
The alchemist is such a fun third hero.
6:41 Bronze Humans seek a worthy challenge, they are no longer amused when they fight with a clear advantage (Playing as human is the advantage, I don't know how, but it just is.), thus to invite attacks, they will tech castle and expand to welcome an attack with open arms.
Human advantage is having budget footmen available at all times. Creep earlier faster if you want. Power building. Arguably the best hero roster. Can’t go wrong with human.
Very interesting format. Had a blast watching :)
Cryptlord, beetles, skeletons, ghoul rush is awesome.
I'm a boomer and in the old days I usually went for cryplord with early cemetery (to summon scarabs), mass spiders then dk in t2 to heal my cryptlord (spike armour to max its tankiness). Maybe I was a noob but well I had some fun and some success with that strat.
thats exactly the same build i used to play
29:28 reminds me of fight with other guy I had in school. But we both were so weak we can't harm each other.
With the summon units you think it would be good for early creeping, thing is DK unholy aura is just too good.
I don't think Blizzard understood the power of early creeping, which was why for the longest time Humans always started Archmage, Orcs always started Blademaster, and Undead already started DK.
Crypt lord first is Chad especially spiked carapace
Man remember how sick it was when frozen throne came out! So lucky to have lived through the best time in gaming history!!!
Thanks for the good game, Warchief! 👊🏻
I don't play online often, I own Reforged entirely (including graphics which IMO could be worse), but my heart is with 1.26. I play VS AI often, but I might try modern ladder on Reforged eventually. Anyway, I like thematic builds, including my own "names" for them like "Beetle Juice" which is Crypt Lord with Carrion Beetles & Crypt Fiends or "Feline Fury" which is POTM with Huntresses. Are they META? No, not even close, but are they fun? YES, ENTIRELY. Gimmicks are fun, unless you're losing to one, but that's beside the point. It's a shame a you can't simply win with what you enjoy most sometimes, you'll lose to paper as rock, but I feel Warcraft III has the best potential for creative strategies for an RTS. I do play with the popular old-school mod AMAI (Advance Melee AI) for single player vs AI, teams or otherwise.
I only play against AI too 😅
CL is part of the UD meta again (thankfully)
The quickest path from A to B if there are knights and a mountain king in your way is death.
@Grubby when would you say it is worth it to buy a Shredder? I hardly ever see it in 1v1
if u have 400 gold lying around if u have 100 wood. If you just expanded and deem it safe then maybe grab one
I always play Cryptlord first because 1. i like his style and 2. because i really like the the early fast creeping power plus scouting with beetles and especially the AOE stun. I dont care what is meta, i think Cryptlord is cool AND strong.
Concerning formations, I think maybe it was intented as something we would turn on and off, like the formations are use in aoe2, almost like an army ability that you are supposed to toggle when needed like the flank formation is use to dodge in aoe2, and just as an option of course between two ways they could have done it, but yeah it turned out most of us just turn it off and never use it i d guess.
I think pros do turn it on sometimes to re-arrange troop formation before engaging, especially the bigger the battle. But i think having it off all the time beats having it on all the time, the disadvantage having it on is just too much
Loving the videos grubby you're a content machine
Is brining Ivory towers to make a push using tower worth?
Hey Grubby, for real question from a newbie who loves the game. I like playing Orc and I noticed my worst matchup is against Undead, especially fiend and ghoul rushes. What’s the go-to counter for this? Thanks
Did you find out? I'd love to see the answer too
@@Tungdil_01 I’ve tried a few strategies, some that have no payout and some that are pretty strong. Early harass can sometimes cripple their Ghoul economy and prevents a rush. If that is their plan, I think building bestiary and double rax is a good bet, with one rax producing grunts and the other one headhunters. The bestiary is really important here and I tend to build up my flying units
You gotta be Blue for true Crypt Lord
"All over like he wanna hold hands"
Didn't expect the Eminem reference, but appreciate it nonetheless.
Me and my friend have dabbled playing off and on over the years and have had our own strats vs each other. Seeing these Bronze League Heroes series is making me want to play against others! Is the WC3 Champions active more than BNet or do each have their own advantages?
I havent been able to pllay WC3 since the latest patch. Says i have to repair it or reinstall. Ive done all of that multiple times and still says unable to load and its an endless cycle. Anyone know a sure fix?
my favorite sit-down stand-upper
Hi Grubby and everyone, I really wonder what’s the right place or address that I can download and play WC3 at it’s right version(rank)because u know I live in China and I can never find the right version to play online. If u know plz tell me. Thank you
How do other people have the add-on that shows hero levels/inventory but Grubby doesn't
Samurai is gonna commit Mitsubishi. Had me rolling🤣🤣🤣🤣
Grub really does go around picking random people and gave them personal coaching
I'm totally going to use that: I'm not trash at Dota, I'm simply too cool to play optimally.
Hey Grubby! This is probably a horrible stream/game idea but still throwing it out there:
You could try winning a game with overall APM averaging lower than 60, or trying to find what the best build would be with little to low micro - which relates to APM. I love your content and your creativity thank you for keeping this beautiful game alive :') Cheers!
He did this once, some time last year.
He has done this a while ago. Its pretty much the same result. He just clicks less repeatedly
how to remove formation i cant find option
Click the button at the bottom right next to Mini-map
@@jespereriksson9229 thanks, i was ok not in formation :D
By watching this videos, human has +50% winrate in bronze league i think. Lord Garithos must be proud
teir stratey of oin t3 and expansion works in teir elo and it mit be te best, if te enemy doesnt do te same (in tat case attack would be optimal).
As soon as tft dropped I was only playing cryptlord. Never played well of course. There must be something to him that transcends gameplay.
cryplord first is not bad at all , u get him to lvl 6 as soon as posible and ur guci :D
I love Dark Ranger as 1st hero TBQH. DR pwns Fat cryptlord IMHO.
I think this should be 'Episode 9'
If I ever play W3 again, I already got called out at 2:40 :D Lets be fair, W3 is so old, that yes, many of the people that played it back then, are "seasoned" adults :D
Love this!❤
Bronze league is more fun because everything has not been optimized to boring
Bronze Players love crypt lord and we love you!
I mean, cryptlord just seems good if you dont know any better. A huge stun and minions thats dont expire
I really feel like playing W3 but I don't have the $ to buy reforged
i'm always so excited to watch these episodes! it's become my favorite thing on youtube as of recently actually. but it confused me, cause both this & the last episode are numbered episode 8 ^^'
no alchemist 3rd. must re-play in a propper way
After dozens 'broze games', they have no idea what to do with an army) the biggest shortcoming. Absolutely random moves with an army
awesome bronze game
this is low key rage inducing... i know its bronze league but how do you build an alchemist then spam healing spray.. then NEVER USE IT AGAIN IN THE GAME?!?!?!?!
Look, his might cannot be matched
episode 8 again? we are spoiled.
I like CL too... am I bronze?
Hahahaha I love it 🥰 That's how I play
Wtf are those god damn noobs my brain hurts
Not sure if you are familiar with awful instagram ads that show some reaaaaly easy gameplay of a fake game, and the performance of the player is really bad. The intention of such ads is to make your blood boil with the stupidity of the decision of the "player" who play that "game" in the ad, so you'd urge to install that game and show how it supposed to be done.
I am getting the same feeling when watching your bronze league videos. So you're kind of abusing the same mechanics these ads use 😂
I understand, that it is a fake feeling in case of WC3 and I will perform way worse than the players from the videos, but still can't get rid of urge to try myself 😂
Bronze = comedy 🤣 show
Cl fiends dk to frost wyrms my most consistent build!
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