good job, I have an evoque 2.0 and I had to buy an autel maxi ap200 to control the regenerations in this engine, it is essential, I change oil every 10,000kms. I have 100,000 km on it and when I run my finger over the exhaust it is completely clean. The scr system is poorly designed, unless you play watchman with diagnostic tools.
My parents have a 2017 evoque. Its actually been ok so far but with over 50k miles on I'm just waiting for that phone call. Luckily your videos are helping me get more familiar with these motors.
Uk emissions test on a diesel is checking soot opacity output no emissions relating to what the cat does (co) so dpf delete can have major effect on emissions test
Very informative. I've got black soot in my vw mk6 tdi tail pipe, finger tested, not nearly as bad as this rover. Originally when scanned fault codes P00AF and P2002 came up the same issue I had from 3 years ago. (Dealership nightmare) Did a fresh oil change and forced a stationary regen, P00AF went way but P2002 came back after about a week of driving. Forced a regen while on the highway for about 10 minutes, but had to slow down and the regeneration stopped. Order liqui moly dpf 2 step cleaner because that's what's only available within a week delivery in the states. Its unfortunate that all these dealerships have nothing really in place nor guidelines on helping customers resolve these issues better.
Great explanation Jimmy about this, as a tradesperson it's always difficult to get your point across when it's been to other people and for them to believe what your saying as good sound information.
Hi jimmy I have a 2.0 eco blue transit on 83000 mile the paper work shows its on the third dpf . I Just fitted new injectors new air filter new fuel rail sensor checked for air leak . It’s on if second egr which I took of and cleaned not easy on a RWD. Plus new nox sensor . Still blows black smoke on acceleration. Black soot in exhaust and fails it mot . I thick the last owner had the adblue code deleted . Shows no code but show high nox on Live data . Cleaned the dpf . The dpf pressure is ok . Getting over 30 mpg around town Maybe you just have to change the dpf every 25000 mile . Not sure how that saves the planet Follow all your great videos any thoughts would help Cheers Tom
Hi I just watched it where you could not sort the code out I sorted mine out by replacing the fuel filter I already tried the cleaning route but it didn't work so when I done the filter it neather came on till I needed to do the filter at 35000 miles again and I did the filter and it worked again
If you delete the dpf all the soot will finish in the turbo through the low pressure egr. Great modern design. But it is a great looking car and nice to drive.
Why don't JLR put a light on the dashboard to say the DPF is regenerating? You can then decide to carry on driving or stop and have a failed regen, My 2019 Evoque did a regen on Saturday on the A50 travelling 70 miles but did one tonight having travelled 25 miles. We got home and the exhaust was banging and popping so another failed regen. So, another £250 oil change in January. Time for a class action?
hello Jimmy, maybe you can help me. My LandRover Discovery Sport gets the error message P2002-92. The exhaust pipes are a bit black, but not as much as in your videos. how do i find out what is defective? i would be very grateful for your help. Thanks, Ibo
High soot load calculation but low ish diff pressure - you said the dpf is damaged, there is soot ( alot ) at the tailpipe- all correct. My comment would be the dpf has melted and is holed ( hence the soot coming thro to tailpipe ) which would correleate with the diff pressures. There is however an underlying issue with the engine, that has caused the initial problem- even with no dpf, the tailpipe should not be anything like that sooty, so its not running correctly.
Wrong about tailpipe not being sooty if you don't have a DPF and engine is healthy. I have new cars with faulty manufactured DPF leaking exhaust gases past, the exhaust pipe becomes sooty but the car is perfectly fine. All diesel engines no matter if 100% healthy or completely clapped out produce soot, just some more and some less. So to summarize, even on a perfectly healthy 100% engine you would still have a sooty exhaust if you wouldn't have a DPF.
@@nesmio7378 I have owned diesels with DPFs since 2010 and used diesel for work with DPFs since 2005 (mk2 Zafira CDTI Auto always had DPF fitted) Never any soot in the tailpipe. I also know somebody that had the same Fiat CDTI engine in his non DPF Zafira Mk2 and there was always spot in his exhaust, it was still a fairly clean engine, unless you tuned it and then that engine would roll coal
@@MichaelB-GTK This is incorrect. Even at lambda 1 for diesel there is soot because of the combustion process. If there was no soot it would mean that the combustion process was 100% effective and all fuel was completely burned. This is impossible in real life. Even at lambda 1 some spots in the cylinder will be richer and some leaner because of the injection and swirling. Engineers try their best but it's impossible to get a completely even and homogenous mixture of diesel in a cylinder, to summarize - there is always soot.
Just had a 19 evoque in with 40k on it and same code, no pressure in it at all, anything ingenium is junk, don’t get me wrong they earn me good money but what poor quality for the money.
Diesels in general are not suited to the driving patterns that they are put through as shopping trolleys and family taxis. Wrong cars for the job. I really just don’t understand how manufacturers have developed and marketed these vehicles as localised transportation when they are not suited to the conditions they are used in. Bring on Electric vehicles, they are way more suited to short trip, stop start driving conditions.
I desperately want JLR to survive and I’m sure they will, but surely by any amount of common sense they are seeing a lot of these as warranty claims and thinking how they can fix it etc however I suspect they are doing the usual head in the sand treat customer as if idiot scenario.
JLR won't be making diesels soon. If you go to a dealer and price up an Evoque you will find the petrols are nore more expensive than the diesels. JLR won't be making the 4 cylinder diesels for much longer IMHO.
Egr Dpfs blocking up is the reason I stopped buying VW Audi cars, switched to Hyundai 8 years ago and never had a problem scene, it seems that European cars are over engineered and too much electronics and too much to go wrong
good job, I have an evoque 2.0 and I had to buy an autel maxi ap200 to control the regenerations in this engine, it is essential, I change oil every 10,000kms.
I have 100,000 km on it and when I run my finger over the exhaust it is completely clean.
The scr system is poorly designed, unless you play watchman with diagnostic tools.
My parents have a 2017 evoque. Its actually been ok so far but with over 50k miles on I'm just waiting for that phone call. Luckily your videos are helping me get more familiar with these motors.
Uk emissions test on a diesel is checking soot opacity output no emissions relating to what the cat does (co) so dpf delete can have major effect on emissions test
I've never seen it affect the mot
Very informative. I've got black soot in my vw mk6 tdi tail pipe, finger tested, not nearly as bad as this rover. Originally when scanned fault codes P00AF and P2002 came up the same issue I had from 3 years ago. (Dealership nightmare)
Did a fresh oil change and forced a stationary regen, P00AF went way but P2002 came back after about a week of driving. Forced a regen while on the highway for about 10 minutes, but had to slow down and the regeneration stopped. Order liqui moly dpf 2 step cleaner because that's what's only available within a week delivery in the states.
Its unfortunate that all these dealerships have nothing really in place nor guidelines on helping customers resolve these issues better.
Great explanation Jimmy about this, as a tradesperson it's always difficult to get your point across when it's been to other people and for them to believe what your saying as good sound information.
Hi jimmy
I have a 2.0 eco blue transit on 83000 mile the paper work shows its on the third dpf . I
Just fitted new injectors new air filter new fuel rail sensor checked for air leak .
It’s on if second egr which I took of and cleaned not easy on a RWD. Plus new nox sensor .
Still blows black smoke on acceleration. Black soot in exhaust and fails it mot .
I thick the last owner had the adblue code deleted . Shows no code but show high nox on
Live data . Cleaned the dpf . The dpf pressure is ok . Getting over 30 mpg around town
Maybe you just have to change the dpf every 25000 mile . Not sure how that saves the planet
Follow all your great videos any thoughts would help
Cheers Tom
Hi I just watched it where you could not sort the code out I sorted mine out by replacing the fuel filter I already tried the cleaning route but it didn't work so when I done the filter it neather came on till I needed to do the filter at 35000 miles again and I did the filter and it worked again
If you delete the dpf all the soot will finish in the turbo through the low pressure egr. Great modern design. But it is a great looking car and nice to drive.
EGR delete?
Keep them videos coming 👍
Why don't JLR put a light on the dashboard to say the DPF is regenerating? You can then decide to carry on driving or stop and have a failed regen, My 2019 Evoque did a regen on Saturday on the A50 travelling 70 miles but did one tonight having travelled 25 miles. We got home and the exhaust was banging and popping so another failed regen. So, another £250 oil change in January. Time for a class action?
Good video 👍
Great video Jimmy👍 I will never buy range rovers. These cars are extremely expensive and unreliable. Keep'em coming mate. Have a good one👍
Thanks 👍
Wow what a terrible experience for the owner but an excellent video and explanation of the issue.
Can i use launch dpf fluid without the gun oris it required. Thanks.
hello Jimmy, maybe you can help me. My LandRover Discovery Sport gets the error message P2002-92. The exhaust pipes are a bit black, but not as much as in your videos. how do i find out what is defective? i would be very grateful for your help. Thanks, Ibo
Code P2002-92 indicates a mechanical failure (cracked) of the DPF which will unfortunately require replacing
Dear My range rover evoque also showing me same message can u please sort it out
same car same code. so what your tell me is a new dpf is needed??
Yes
I have the same problem with a customer
High soot load calculation but low ish diff pressure - you said the dpf is damaged, there is soot ( alot ) at the tailpipe- all correct. My comment would be the dpf has melted and is holed ( hence the soot coming thro to tailpipe ) which would correleate with the diff pressures. There is however an underlying issue with the engine, that has caused the initial problem- even with no dpf, the tailpipe should not be anything like that sooty, so its not running correctly.
Have you ever owned a turbo diesel without a DPF?
Because they always have soot in the tailpipe, its impossible not to have it.
Wrong about tailpipe not being sooty if you don't have a DPF and engine is healthy.
I have new cars with faulty manufactured DPF leaking exhaust gases past, the exhaust pipe becomes sooty but the car is perfectly fine.
All diesel engines no matter if 100% healthy or completely clapped out produce soot, just some more and some less. So to summarize, even on a perfectly healthy 100% engine you would still have a sooty exhaust if you wouldn't have a DPF.
@@nesmio7378 I have owned diesels with DPFs since 2010 and used diesel for work with DPFs since 2005 (mk2 Zafira CDTI Auto always had DPF fitted)
Never any soot in the tailpipe.
I also know somebody that had the same Fiat CDTI engine in his non DPF Zafira Mk2 and there was always spot in his exhaust, it was still a fairly clean engine, unless you tuned it and then that engine would roll coal
@@MichaelB-GTK This is incorrect. Even at lambda 1 for diesel there is soot because of the combustion process. If there was no soot it would mean that the combustion process was 100% effective and all fuel was completely burned. This is impossible in real life.
Even at lambda 1 some spots in the cylinder will be richer and some leaner because of the injection and swirling. Engineers try their best but it's impossible to get a completely even and homogenous mixture of diesel in a cylinder, to summarize - there is always soot.
@@MichaelB-GTK Exactly, but it's still enough to make your tailpipe sooty if you don't have a DPF.
Just had a 19 evoque in with 40k on it and same code, no pressure in it at all, anything ingenium is junk, don’t get me wrong they earn me good money but what poor quality for the money.
Diesels in general are not suited to the driving patterns that they are put through as shopping trolleys and family taxis. Wrong cars for the job. I really just don’t understand how manufacturers have developed and marketed these vehicles as localised transportation when they are not suited to the conditions they are used in. Bring on Electric vehicles, they are way more suited to short trip, stop start driving conditions.
How JLR charge so much for such poor quality is beyond me. You can see why some of the Dealerships selling and fixing JLR cars have gone bust
I desperately want JLR to survive and I’m sure they will, but surely by any amount of common sense they are seeing a lot of these as warranty claims and thinking how they can fix it etc however I suspect they are doing the usual head in the sand treat customer as if idiot scenario.
JLR won't be making diesels soon.
If you go to a dealer and price up an Evoque you will find the petrols are nore more expensive than the diesels.
JLR won't be making the 4 cylinder diesels for much longer IMHO.
Actively avoid anything with an Ingenuim in it , Utter Garbage.
Unfortunately anything with the Jaguar Land Rover name has never been any good. Even in the days of British Leyland most of it was junk.
True but the older ones were still 10x better than the modern crap a lot of the older ones reach very high mileages
Egr Dpfs blocking up is the reason I stopped buying VW Audi cars, switched to Hyundai 8 years ago and never had a problem scene, it seems that European cars are over engineered and too much electronics and too much to go wrong
Nightmare dpf repair vehicle