BLACK SABBATH REACTION: Heaven and Hell / Wishing Well / Die Young / Country Girl / Falling Off Edge

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2024

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  • @jibaropelu9212
    @jibaropelu9212 Рік тому +4

    Thank you Nick! Great reaction! And great job getting it unblocked!🎉🍾🎊

  • @serp9425
    @serp9425 Рік тому +19

    Dio makes no mistake. Any song of him is classic ❤

  • @anicolau
    @anicolau Рік тому +4

    Wishing Well is SO, SO UNDERRATED.. Great song

  • @symbiosisai
    @symbiosisai Рік тому +23

    Black Sabbath always was and always will be Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler

    • @mikeb3835
      @mikeb3835 Рік тому +4

      Don't you dare leave out legendary drummer Bill Ward.

    • @Grandmastergav86
      @Grandmastergav86 Рік тому +2

      100% and they were blessed with many great singers. I love Cross Purposes with Tony Martin (Geezer returned for that one), it's such an underrated album.

    • @darkmarv8045
      @darkmarv8045 Рік тому +2

      And also Geoff Nicholls, he was there from Heaven and Hell to Forbidden.

  • @sammybeck7794
    @sammybeck7794 Рік тому +7

    In an interview Tony Iommi was asked, "we know how you and Geezer Butler wrote songs. So how do you and Ronnie James Dio write songs? Tony said, we meet halfway."

  • @karenlazenby6440
    @karenlazenby6440 Рік тому +4

    If you're a Zepplin fan, you will LOVE 'Rainbow'. Ronnie James Dio hooked up with Ritchie Blackmore, the GOATS. First 3 albums plus the LIVE during that period. After that, they went pop and Dio left to join Sabbath. Rainbow was one of the the GREATEST, most INSPIRATIONAL bands ever!

  • @jimled50jl49
    @jimled50jl49 Рік тому +4

    Hi again, that was a brilliant marathon. I enjoyed every minute. So sad whenever I hear "Die Young" now with Ronnie leaving us so young. When he first appeared with Black Sabbath and I bought the album, it sounded like a totally different entity, and there was no real thought of who is better Ozzy or Dio ? There have been bands not only with numerous changes, but bands formed with musicians from already well established groups, so people then referred to them as "Supergroups". As it turned out I was not the only person to treat Dio in Sabbath as a different entity... Tony Iommi did too, and later the name Black Sabbath was dropped at live concerts, and called "Heaven & Hell" They only did songs Dio had done and no Ozzy tracks. I think that was an excellent choice because both are now so iconic and a different part of rock history. The live dvd concerts of "Heaven & Hell" are brilliant and so good seeing Dio singing his heart out, as he always did. He is so missed !!! Byee Jim X

  • @jalkabre5904
    @jalkabre5904 Рік тому +6

    Martin Birch did a great job in producing these albums. The songs miss the rawness of the early BS albums, but have a new crisp sound that is more polished that suits Dio's voice and Tony's guitar.

  • @alvarorivas9044
    @alvarorivas9044 Рік тому +5

    I used to be hard core ozzy only but over these last few years dio sabbath had become my favorite

  • @dmCurator
    @dmCurator Рік тому +3

    Both! Two different eras, two different bands.
    At least that's how I've settled it so I don't have to choose.
    Mob Rules! Epic. Vinnie Appice brought the heavy.

  • @vauhtiristo
    @vauhtiristo Рік тому +4

    Loved every second of it, what a set of gold❤

  • @lordlost08
    @lordlost08 Рік тому +4

    Falling of the edge of the World is brilliant!

  • @aslakrantakokko5347
    @aslakrantakokko5347 Рік тому +10

    Great selection! One missing, the heaviest one. "Sign of the Southern Cross". It just does not get any heavier than that song.

    • @jalkabre5904
      @jalkabre5904 Рік тому +1

      100% agree. Would been great to add this to the marathon

  • @kph1034
    @kph1034 Рік тому +4

    Ozzy for me. RJD had a great voice ( saw him with Sabbath at the Hammersmith- great show but it's not Ozzy) but BS sound will always have Ozzys voice in my head

  • @kirbybailey607
    @kirbybailey607 Рік тому +4

    Ozzy did not leave Black Sabbath, he was kicked out

  • @generoberts9151
    @generoberts9151 Рік тому +1

    This whole album is iconic. I had thought you and Lex did this song a while back but yeah I think it would have rung a bell to you.Wishing Well and Die Young are also off the Heaven and Hell album. Title track from Mob Rules album is an absolute banger and a must listen

  • @jimled50jl49
    @jimled50jl49 Рік тому +2

    Hi Nick, what a list !!!!! Love all these tracks and Black Sabbath with Dio ... that 1st album they did is amazing ! I am really going to enjoy this ...Coffee time ...back in a mo ! Byee Jim X

  • @SylviusTheMad
    @SylviusTheMad Рік тому +1

    The melody on Country Girl reminds me of the sorts of melodies Ronnie wrote for his band Elf (1972-1975).

  • @pentagrammaton6793
    @pentagrammaton6793 Рік тому +4

    Cracking selection. Heaven and Hell tends towards experimental hard rock and Mob Rules is pure metal, but they're equally phenomenal. \m/

    • @mandomendez5618
      @mandomendez5618 Рік тому

      U know,l Never thought about it like that but u make a good point,both Damm gd albums but I thought Dio was better with Rainbow,l would've loved to see him stick it out with them

  • @XA351GT
    @XA351GT Рік тому +1

    Die Young is my favorite track on the album Bill Ward's drums are just thundering here.

  • @staceycarras3815
    @staceycarras3815 Рік тому

    Awesome review Nick, my five cents, the first half of the solo of Wishing Well is backwards guitar, this was brought to my attention in a review I couldn't believe that I'd never heard it myself, I suppose I was just lost in the music and it went over my head, Die Young was the first track that I was exposed to on that CD what an intro !!!! keep up the good work Nick

  • @stevenhopwood8195
    @stevenhopwood8195 Рік тому +3

    You say even without Ozzy, well they got a fair replacement for him!!! ❤️🤘🎸🎻🇦🇺

  • @ronnienose8608
    @ronnienose8608 Рік тому

    Of course. both Maiden and Sabbath were using the same producer, Martin (who made his name working with Deep Purple in the 1970s. Plus, he produced all the early Whitesnake albums).

  • @Ontariosound
    @Ontariosound Рік тому +3

    Zero The Hero is their heaviest song of all time.

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 Рік тому +1

      "Disturbing the Priest" for me . . . or maybe, their most EVIL 😧. That Ian "Laugh" and scream! 😦

    • @liftme225
      @liftme225 Рік тому

      Ian was awsome on album. Saw that tour and live his voice was toast. Was on last leg of tour.

  • @gbonillas976
    @gbonillas976 10 днів тому

    Heaven and Hell is the best metal album all time, period, Dio is like god on this record amazing voice!!, and Tommy was in a different level respect his previous albums with Ozzy
    I am Ozzy fan to, but man, Dio is from another galaxy!!

  • @chadheckman2693
    @chadheckman2693 Рік тому +4

    Early Black Sabbath with Ozzy is the best!

  • @andyknight7285
    @andyknight7285 Рік тому

    To quote Bill Ward " Black Sabbath is Tony Iommi , Geezer Butler , Ozzy Osbourne and Bill Ward " . Who could argue with that ?

  • @brendantoungate8287
    @brendantoungate8287 Рік тому

    Fun reaction! All of these tracks are awesome. If you want another one to listen to, "The Sign of the Southern Cross" is absolutely epic.

  • @joebarrera9741
    @joebarrera9741 Рік тому +1

    I love BLACK SABBATH

    • @tommymaier3017
      @tommymaier3017 Рік тому

      i have never trusted any human if they don't dig BLACK SABBATH!

  • @integraleric
    @integraleric Рік тому

    Great reaction, Nick. I agree with your observations regarding Dio-era Black Sabbath. I think Tony Iomi has said that whereas Ozzy always sang along with the main riff rhythmically, Dio instead exercised more freedom to sing over the riff like a canvas artistically.

  • @billadkins5150
    @billadkins5150 Рік тому +1

    Dio took things to a different level.

  • @jayhpaq
    @jayhpaq Рік тому +2

    Two really good records, but nothing tops the first five with Ozzy.

  • @liftme225
    @liftme225 Рік тому

    both. Ozzy is my favorite for the classic sabbath sound but Dio is Dio Bill Ward and John Bonham were my drum instructors when a young teen learning the craft. Needle to vinyl over and over and over and....

  • @shspurs1342
    @shspurs1342 Рік тому +1

    My take on this question. When Ronnie James Dio joined. They should have changed there name to at least Sabbath. One reason is the fact the they sounded like a different band.

  • @larrym5120
    @larrym5120 Рік тому

    Tony has some of the best riffs ever but I think his solos are VERY under rated.

  • @johncarr2806
    @johncarr2806 Рік тому +1

    I saw Black Sabbath at Sheffield City Hall in the mid- seventies. Unfortunately, there was a problem with the electrics, and the concert came to an abrupt end.

  • @delorangeade
    @delorangeade Рік тому +6

    I could barely tolerate the sound of Ozzy's voice, so I came to Sabbath as a Rainbow and Dio fan. I think it's fair to say that there was a lot of suspicion of Dio when he first joined the band, both in the media and from fans. People were anxious about what he would bring to the table. He brought two really significant things: his ability to write and arrange melodically, and Martin Birch as a producer. Martin Birch was the sound of British hard rock/heavy metal as much as any musician. Dio did well enough that when he left the band after the schism with Iommi and Butler, most of the good will of media and fans went with him, so he hit the ground running with his solo career. Sabbath with Gillan were not really taken seriously in the media, fans were more accepting, and it was the beginning of a lean period for the band. For my money, Mob Rules is a better album than Heaven and Hell, and I prefer Vinnie Appice as a drummer to Bill Ward. Country Girl is probably my favourite Black Sabbath track, and one of my favourite drum parts. Yes, it is reminiscent of John Bonham, and I'm sure that must have been deliberate, because Vinnie Appice really has the heaviness, but a different feel to his playing than Bonham, more direct.

  • @alexrossi4464
    @alexrossi4464 Рік тому +1

    React to , give her the gun 🔫 , by Dio!best metal vocalist and lyricist ever! Early black Sabbath is to one dimensional and clunky for me. Dio , brought fresh life into the band.

  • @gonzaloandrew2802
    @gonzaloandrew2802 Рік тому +1

    Ozzy, Dave Walker, Dio, Ian Gillan, David Donato, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, Tony Martin, Rob Halford, Ozzy... I don't know if I'm missing any jajaj... that's the order that i understand

  • @cybermanne
    @cybermanne 7 місяців тому

    I was around 12 when The number of the beast came out. It was the first Maiden album I got and I loved it. And soon after I got the albums that came before, and I liked the sound of Paul Di Anno even more. Some of the songs on the first two albums are so fucking cool, and I still think Paul did them better than Bruce. But on the whole I can't fault the band for going with Bruce.
    Black Sabbath with Ronnie sounds nothing like Sabbath imo. It sounds amazig. But it doesn't have that bluesy feeling the previous albums had. I totally agree that Heaven and hell sounds like it could've been on the Holy diver album.
    Both Ozzy and Ronnie were amazing singers. I couldn't chose one over the other. But for Sabbath it has to be Ozzy.

  • @filomunoz208
    @filomunoz208 Рік тому

    DIO...simply the Best.

  • @murdockreviews
    @murdockreviews Рік тому +1

    I honestly prefer 'Mob Rules' over 'Heaven and Hell'. (Generally, I am still an Ozzy guy, though).

  • @Andy-ng9lz
    @Andy-ng9lz Рік тому +1

    Geezer's always played like he does on Die Young, you can just hear him better on the Martin Birch albums. So wish MB had done the first 8.

  • @floriansteinitz1506
    @floriansteinitz1506 Рік тому

    Hi there,
    mind the fact that Sabbath with Dio doing Ozzy songs is Sabbath whereas Sabbath with Dio doing Dio songs exclusively is called Heaven and Hell.When occuring, it took me a moment
    to straighten this out. Check it out.
    Hi from Berlin, Gerany

  • @kirbybailey607
    @kirbybailey607 Рік тому +1

    Ronnie James Dio wrote almost all of the songs on Heaven and Hell,but tommi Inommi was let to do what he wanted on guitar

    • @hugostigglitz9639
      @hugostigglitz9639 Рік тому

      Wrong, my boy Geezer has written all black Sabbath lyrics since Osbourne

  • @larrym5120
    @larrym5120 Рік тому

    Imagine if the holy diver album was done by black sabbath instead of the dio band. The sound. How different it would have been. Ronnie was writing the lyrics already before they split up.

  • @joykeebler1916
    @joykeebler1916 Рік тому

    South North God - Ronny James Dio and towards StagE/signaturE Reference meaning

  • @peteharper2687
    @peteharper2687 Рік тому +2

    Deo is an excellent vocalist, but it never sounded like Sabbath to me after they kicked Ozzy.

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 Рік тому +2

      It wasn’t Sabbath … it was a heavy hard rock band with Dio

  • @davidmolina3520
    @davidmolina3520 Рік тому +2

    Seen Sabbath with at least four different singers.

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 Рік тому +1

      Wow! That's awesome . . . I'm jealous!

    • @langdalepaul
      @langdalepaul Рік тому +1

      Did you see them with Rob Halford? 😉

    • @davidmolina3520
      @davidmolina3520 Рік тому

      @@langdalepaul No I didn't.

    • @langdalepaul
      @langdalepaul Рік тому +1

      @@davidmolina3520 I got lucky at one of the Ozzfest events when Black Sabbath were headlining. Ozzy got sick and Rob filled in for him. It was awesome!

    • @davidmolina3520
      @davidmolina3520 Рік тому

      @@langdalepaul Too cool ! Awesome 👍

  • @XA351GT
    @XA351GT Рік тому

    Vinnie pronounces his last name as APP a SEE his brother Carmine pronounces it as A Peace

  • @mikeg.4211
    @mikeg.4211 Рік тому +2

    Great reactions, but it's TONY Iommi! TONY, not TOMY!!!!! :) Vinnie Appice is pronounced APP-iss-ee. Ian Gillan is "Gillan", not Gillian. After Ian Gillan and Glenn Hughes, their longest other singer was the great underrated Tony Martin. :) Sabbath was a big influence on Iron Maiden. Sabbath was first with stuff like this.

    • @NicknLex
      @NicknLex  Рік тому +2

      Did I say Tommy? My bad

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 Рік тому

      @@NicknLex Hehe 😊.

    • @johnfoster5295
      @johnfoster5295 Рік тому +1

      Yes it's Tony, short for Anthony. His full name is Frank Anthony Iommi.

    • @mikeg.4211
      @mikeg.4211 Рік тому +1

      @@johnfoster5295 yep!

  • @schwarzwolf8663
    @schwarzwolf8663 Рік тому +1

    Maiden and Sabbath hat the same producer at that time.

  • @Grandmastergav86
    @Grandmastergav86 Рік тому

    Tony Martin & Glenn Hughes IMO - Ray Gillen, Ian Gillan and Jeff Fenholt weren't bad either!

  • @ninjagamermusic6246
    @ninjagamermusic6246 Рік тому +1

    To me the born again album was heavy totally different

    • @ninjagamermusic6246
      @ninjagamermusic6246 Рік тому

      I was in 11 th grade during that your that was my first Sabbath concert an night ranger open .I saw that concert in Sunrise musical theater in Florida an Ian Gillian still had his long hair an a badass

  • @schwarzwolf8663
    @schwarzwolf8663 Рік тому

    Look out for the Live eviL Release 23/06/02

  • @t_nordlicht1937
    @t_nordlicht1937 Рік тому

    I always prefer Dio, best Sabbath-Albums... second Tony Martin, almost as good as Dio but sadly most time overlooked - Headless Cross and Tyr are amazing records!

  • @mvunit3
    @mvunit3 Рік тому +2

    These are the VERY reasons I went from a Proghead (from 1977 to now) to a Metalhead in 1980-82, along with Ozzy & Randy Rhoads. It also made me go backwards in Ronnie James Dio's history, and then discover all the Metal from before, that was to come from the NWOBHM, and from the States. 2 of my fave music genres, and then when they smashed together, and created subgenres on their own.
    It may be sacrileges, but I think Dio's best work was with Rainbow and Sabbath, because he had "others" that were just as creative all coming together to produce ICONIC albums. Though I do enjoy his solo work (seen him for 5 tours), I never got to see him with Rainbow, Sabbath and (band) Heaven & Hell sadly. But he did do 5 Rainbow tracks when I saw his last Solo Tour, which I thought I'd NEVER see 🥲.
    I wore Heaven and Hell, and Mob Rules out! EVERY dang song on those albums are perfect. The "Outro" for H&H is one of my all times favorites, that mediaeval Acoustic Guitar sound was such a perfect beautiful way to end it .
    And I HOPE you breakout those CD's N&L, because it took DECADES for them to get the Rights to Remaster them, so there are new liner notes within them (I can remember Lexi "loving" the back cover _portrait_ of the band on H&H, much like the portrait on Rainbow's "Long Live Rock 'n Roll").
    I knew of Dio from Rainbow (because of "Man on the Silver Mountain", but that's all), and articles in magazines, and I was just getting into the Ozzy era of the band, so when Dio made his debut with Sabbath, I kinda' _knew_ that the sound adapted to Dio and his type of style, and that Iommi became a more dynamic guitar player. I think band and Dio made each other even better as musicians and composers. And yes, "Geezer" Butler on Bass and Bill Ward sounded awesome (and "Vinnie Appice" on drums for the Mob Rules album). Lord! the words that Dio accentuates and how strong his voice is . . . astounding.
    You'll have to checkout the Dio Documentary; "Dreamers Never Die" if you haven't already (what a history of making music!), and as people are requesting; "Sign of the Southern Cross", and another personal fave "Over and Over", a very sad, bluesy track, where Iommi makes his Gibson SG "cry in pain". But you have already covered many of my faves here \m/.
    - Thank you Jose' and Nick, I'm sure Alexi will LOVE these too . . . \m/ "All Right!!!" \m/
    _"The World is full of Kings and Queens_
    _Who blind your eyes and steal your dreams_
    _It's Heaven and Hell!"_
    Glad the video was _allowed_ to stay up! Good job Nick 🙂!

  • @rcdolphin714
    @rcdolphin714 Рік тому

    Nick, who is the artist on the album cover that's behind you next to Supertramp's Crime of the Century? The dude with the beard?

    • @NicknLex
      @NicknLex  Рік тому

      Jean-Luc Ponty! Album: Enigmatic Ocean 😊

  • @mojobag01
    @mojobag01 Рік тому

    A-pi-shay

  • @davidevans4535
    @davidevans4535 Рік тому

    If you like the strawbs take a listen to Amazing Blondel and english band

  • @RosaLichtenstein01
    @RosaLichtenstein01 Рік тому +1

    This is easily Black Sabbath's best album. You've already reacted to the best track, 'Heaven and Hell', but the second best is 'Lonely is the Word' which features Tony's best ever guitar solo.

  • @cd-vq6dz
    @cd-vq6dz Рік тому +2

    I could write a novel, but I'll try not to, and I'm assuming you're definitely a guitar player since almost everything you speak about in the reactions I've seen you post is.....the guitar player/s. Big surprise there. Someone needed to tell Eddie Van Halen about LGD when he was still alive, because it's every bit as real as "LSD". Anyway, the thing about Maiden is that they (like all of the NWOBHM bands) were all highly influenced by Rainbow's first 3 albums, which Dio was the singer of all of those albums from 1975-1978. Then Dio and Blackmore had a falling out in Rainbow, and Dio joined Sabbath, (after they FIRED OZZY) in 1979, and they started work on what became Heaven & Hell released in 1980. So Dio brought that element of more progressive heaviness to Sabbath with him from Rainbow. Dio's immense influence on his tenure of Sabbath is easily understood if you listen to the first 3 Rainbow albums. So Maiden definitely was influenced by Sabbath in this way, not the other way around.
    As for Vinny Appice on drums, Vinny's older brother is Carmine (drum legend). Carmine influenced John Bonham. Bonham and Zeppelin opened up for Vanilla Fudge (Carmine's band) in the late 60's, and even Tim Bogert (V Fudge bassist RIP) has admitted that Bonham at times would sit on the side of the stage and watch everything Carmine Appice was doing when they were on that tour. Bonham even played double bass drums for a short while (and their are photos to prove it for the unenlightened) because he was influenced by Carmine Appice. Bonham was influenced by a lot of Motown drummers as well, though he was more heavy handed, but Bonham definitely admired Carmine Appice, of that there is no doubt- though I'm sure Bonham's fanboys/cultist worshipers would try to argue, but it's simply true. Vinny Appice was learning how to play from Carmine, Carmine was his older brother. Vinny was a Bonham fan too as he's admitted, but really more of what he's doing came from Carmine (who again influenced Bonham).
    Lastly, when Dio joined Sabbath in 79' they were considered a dead issue in the U.S. Their last 2 albums with Ozzy (at the time) had TANKED on the U.S. charts and (initially) didn't even come close to going Gold. Most people thought they would be finished within a couple of years. And..................BOOM........Heaven & Hell hit like an atomic bomb in the U.S. and overseas in 1980. It went PLATINUM in the U.S. and Sabbath were reborn and a force in the rock music world again. Dio was instrumental in resurrecting Black Sabbath. It wasn't like when sammy hagar joined Van Halen (who were coming off their biggest selling album of their career with the 1984 album), Black Sabbath were hanging on for dear life when Dio joined (to the contrary), yet largely due to Dio's incredible vocal ability and talent Sabbath became a force again the music world. And Dio (unlike Ozzy) wrote ALL of his own lyrics, harmonies, and melodies (Ozzy did no such thing as has been well documented). Dio also played bass guitar and was known to come up with riffs of his own (the main riff for the song Holy Diver is Dio's). Dio was a vocal phenom and a true musician. Ozzy (though I do have a soft spot for him and am old enough to have heard the original Sabbath with him first) was not a real musician. He doesn't play an instrument. He didn't write his own lyrics in Sabbath (well documented - Geezer wrote most of them), and technically Ozzy's is NOT a great vocalist, and anyone who knows anything about music knows this. Dio was simply much more talented than Ozzy will ever be. And if you read between the lines of interviews with Iommi you can tell he preferred working with Dio because it opened up the scope of what was possible in Black Sabbath. In other words with Dio, there was no limit to what Sabbath could do. With Ozzy there was.

    • @NicknLex
      @NicknLex  Рік тому

      So you did write the novel after all. I just have those guitars in the background for decoration😜 I have a degree in music theory and improvisation. The guitar is what matters. I also play bass & piano and some violin. I don't really care too much about who is who and what happened what year. I do appreciate you taking the time thou. Never have been a fan of Ozzy's singing. Dio on the other hand is a master IMHO. Stay Metal!

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 Рік тому

      BRAVO! Not only did you knock me out for writing another Novel for Television 😉But hit on ALL points about this era of Dio and Sabbath. That was a great history lesson for N&L. I think its very important who is who, because these certain people are creating the music, and if the wrong person is mentioned, you just took away from the actual person who created the notes and sounds that were unique to them. And there will be a time that YOU notice the differences.
      - I bow humbly c.d. \m/.

    • @NicknLex
      @NicknLex  Рік тому

      Yes indeed lots of good information but this is a reaction channel not a documentary on the history of Black Sabbath. I'd rather watch a documentary where the narrator is not constantly being condescending to the viewer. Hence me: the reactor. All that shit about me being a guitar player was unnecessary. I like history but not narrated by a presumptuous jerk. Can't believe you applaud that Tony given that your comments are always informative AND friendly. Maybe C.D. should take some notes from you and learn to be respectful while preaching.

  • @elviscoroaferreira250
    @elviscoroaferreira250 7 місяців тому

    Whats means 11:11 for you?

  • @aeapeclari170
    @aeapeclari170 Рік тому

    LA ERA DE OZZY ES MAS GENIAL ESCUCACHA LOS DOS ULTIMOS ALBUMS SON DE OTRO NIVEL

  • @jayedwards4787
    @jayedwards4787 Рік тому +1

    If you like heavy metal , the first four albums with Ozzy are outstanding . The Dio -fronted Sabbath are more a heavy hard rock band …I liked Heaven and Hell , but not Mob Rules …I really hated Dio’s stupid “ dungeon and dragons” lyrics, which were often meaningless . Didn’t care for his stage presentation either …

  • @mvunit3
    @mvunit3 Рік тому

    I don't think Vinnie would take too kindly to taking a Piss Nick 😂
    Si si! ITALIANO Sir Nicholas! Vinnie "Ap - pa - si".
    Btw - I'll make a controversial statement; the "Born Again" album with Ian Gillan (Gil - len) is probably Sabbath's most EVIL and Heaviest sounding album. The story how it happened is kind of funny (though the story from Gillan doesn't appear here): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Again_(Black_Sabbath_album)
    "Heaven and Hell" (April 25, 1980) came out the SAME month and year as Iron Maiden's debut album (14 April 1980).
    So I bet it was a shock for both bands 😛! And . . . SAME Producer, "Martin Birch". That's nuts!