Churches without a Tabernacle in the Sanctuary w/ Fr. Donald Calloway, MIC

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  • @brendamyc3057
    @brendamyc3057 2 роки тому +44

    I ran into this. The first thing I do when I enter. A church is to find the tabernacle because I like to offer my heart to the Divine Presence before mass. I like to talk to Jesus this way offering my thoughts and intentions during the mass as I pray the prayers, sing the songs, think about the readings, and pray for God’s intentions during communion. The tabernacle wasn’t up there it was just a pot of flowers in the spot! I actually started to panic! I too was directed to the chapel and the priest began to say How Jesus is in him during the mass. I said yes, I know about the consecration.... and the readings, and the songs and the prayers... the Holy Spirit does it all I know but with Jesus’ presence there it’s STRONGER. I cried!!! Jesus kicked out of His own worship space!!!! People this isn’t about rubric this is about moving the love of our lives out of the way!!! How can we say Jesus is the center of our lives if he’s not the center of our greatest moment together! Holy Communion!!!!!!

  • @stevenseeley1243
    @stevenseeley1243 2 роки тому +53

    I struggle with the same thing Father. I am so close to becoming a confirmed Catholic through the FSSP, and I have to really remember to calm down when talking about Catholicism with my friends and family. And coming from a stone cold Protestant family, I have to always be conscious that I was once a fervent hater of the Catholic Church, but thanks be to God I was able to snap out of my spiritual coma and realized the truth. Having patients and tact is extremely important with trying to evangelize, because the last thing we want to do is turn someone completely off to the idea of becoming Catholic, because then that persons chance of being saved rests solely upon how invincibly ignorant they are to accept the truths of the Catholic Church, which is a state, we as Catholics don't want for any soul. Relying upon ignorance as a game plan to attain salvation, is a sure fire way to end up in Hell. Jesus, Mary I love thee, save souls.

    • @christian11111
      @christian11111 2 роки тому +8

      May I ask what it was that converted you from Protestantism to Catholicism? Like was there one concept that clicked that changed your view point or a simple way to explain why you converted. Thanks brother.

  • @patriciacinea3097
    @patriciacinea3097 2 роки тому +11

    Tabernacle "restored" back to original place behind the altar in my parish several years ago. Took some finesse and a letter to the bishop for approval, but done. Looks glorious and proper. Walk into the church and there is our Lord.

    • @RPlavo
      @RPlavo 2 роки тому

      Is He anywhere else?

    • @ntmn8444
      @ntmn8444 2 роки тому +1

      Good! You know what drives me crazy too? Seeing the tabernacle to the side. Like, why?

    • @patriciacinea3097
      @patriciacinea3097 2 роки тому +1

      @@ntmn8444 Happened in my parish in the 1970s, moved tabernacle to the side and placed the priest and altar servers chairs in its place behind the altar. Now, we see the reversal in many parishes. I credit Mother Angelica for starting the wave of proper restoration.

  • @e.g.1431
    @e.g.1431 2 роки тому +1

    Love watching Father Calloway. Too bad it was so short but thank you from Calif.

  • @teriellis9487
    @teriellis9487 Рік тому

    Love Fr Don Calloway & the entire Marian fathers, Fr Calloway is our St John the Baptist of this era, all fire & brimstone, straight to the point with a heart & no flowery excuses for the errors of this generation

  • @brendamyc3057
    @brendamyc3057 2 роки тому +3

    Dear Matt:
    This topic and this trend has put me into Divine Agony. I’ve been up all night remembering the deep sorrow and loss I felt in my soul at a pot of flowers on the high altar. I know in my heart my beloved teachers. St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Bonaventure would also lament the moving of the tabernacle! For True beauty is Divine Harmony experienced, expressed, and deeply felt in perfect Symmetry. Oh they have rearranged the beauty of God’s Face and knocked the entire cosmos out of alignment! How is it not understood that the mass unites heaven and earth in the Spiritual Reality of the True Presence of the Mystical Body of Christ! For the Entire Church is present at every mass. The Divine Trinity, the entire Communion of Saints, the Heavenly Host, which come to join us through the union of Jesus in the heart of the priest which unites us, the pilgrim Church on Earth to eternity. We pray with them! Oh they have weakened our family ties, oh Sacred Bond of Love, the Holy Spirit, which proceeds greatly during mass between us all!!! Oh Matt can you help us start a conversation with the Church to put the tabernacle back?

    • @josephzammit8483
      @josephzammit8483 2 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/8qYNUhjT3GY/v-deo.html

    • @AJ-hi4lx
      @AJ-hi4lx Рік тому

      Wasn't the tabernacle on the High Altar begin to become a prevalent practice in only the 16th century? St. Thomas Aquinas and Saint Bonaventure lived in the 13th century. I know I've seen many Medieval illustrations of High Altars without a tabernacle.

  • @ujue1966
    @ujue1966 2 роки тому +4

    YES! thank you for bringing this subject.....this needs to be said!

  • @17cmmittlererminenwerfer81
    @17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 2 роки тому +8

    Churches without Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament front and center physically, are those without Him front and center spiritually.

  • @L.i.s.a....
    @L.i.s.a.... 2 роки тому +5

    Love Fr Calloway, love your videos, they're authentic in faith, educational in a relaxed down to earth way, and always amusing.

  • @salal98110
    @salal98110 2 роки тому +42

    Matt- it would be great to have a show discussing how to handle well and in love these lapses in reverence. It’s a rare parish around me that has a reverent Mass, and it would be good to have some tips about how to witness while not coming off as complicit. It’s a tough balance.

    • @17cmmittlererminenwerfer81
      @17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 2 роки тому +1

      Complicit means to participate in a crime. I don't think that's what you meant.

    • @richardcoleman2042
      @richardcoleman2042 2 роки тому

      @@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81 good point

    • @watermelontreeofknowledge8682
      @watermelontreeofknowledge8682 2 роки тому +2

      Probably worst of all is Communion in the hand. Our hands are not Holy like a priest’s. Gotta go to the Traditional Mass, you’ll probably never see a sacrilege there, just the utmost devotion to Him.

    • @salal98110
      @salal98110 2 роки тому +2

      Complicit: helping to commit a crime or do wrong in some way. I did mean complicit; that’s how I feel when I’m led to participate in an irreverent Mass. Do I, or do I not, to show that what is happening is not correct?

  • @leslie5161
    @leslie5161 2 роки тому +15

    A couple of decades ago, we traveled to the Chicago area for friends 25th anniversary. The following morning we all went to mass at their parish. No tabernacle. Wanting to pray before our Lord before mass, I asked where it was. I was directed to the adoration chapel. I couldn't find it! I asked again. It was the size of a large closet, room for the Tabernacle and 2 kneelers and chairs , with glass walls on 2 sides of the chapel. We expressed our surprise, charitably and non-confrontationaly, to the priest that it was so hidden and insecure. He wasn't happy with us and he actually singled us out during mass.

    • @mattberg916
      @mattberg916 2 роки тому +15

      You did the right thing and were lightly persecuted in the name of our Beloved Savior. He will not overlook your actions. He will repay you!

    • @jefffinkbonner9551
      @jefffinkbonner9551 2 роки тому +6

      People always say the trads are the brash and mean ones, but few ever acknowledge just how brutish and nasty modernists can be.

    • @revelation12_1
      @revelation12_1 2 роки тому +2

      I didn’t realize until recently that there was such a thing as closed adoration.

  • @chelsead8142
    @chelsead8142 2 роки тому +9

    The church I grew up at always had the tabernacle in the back attached to a smaller chapel. I asked about it once after I had started going to other churches and had friends show disapproval of not having the tabernacle in the front. The explanation from the priest of my childhood parish was that the small chapel was the original chapel, then they expanded and left the tabernacle there and the tabernacle can be opened from both sides so it can also be reached from an alcove in the back of the main church. (The mini chapel was prettier than the main church). The sad part is, I often watched people pass the tabernacle on their way out of church without even acknowledging it, let alone bowing or genuflecting. I didn't know how to genuflect until high school because I never saw anyone do it at my childhood church since the tabernacle wasn't in the front. I learned from going to other churches.

  • @ntmn8444
    @ntmn8444 2 роки тому +3

    I do find it weird going to churches and not seeing the tabernacle. It’s strange really. I travel a lot, because I’m a flight attendant, and some Sundays I’m not home. I go to church in whatever city I’m in, if possible. I don’t always see a church with no tabernacle, but when I do, I just find it weird. My home church is so beautiful. It has a tabernacle that can be seen by all the moment you walk in.

  • @paddyearly
    @paddyearly 2 роки тому +2

    What a great convert🙏

  • @iamdaspeed
    @iamdaspeed 2 роки тому +3

    At the parish I grew up in the tabernacle had been to the side of the Church for decades. The choir is behind the priest, alter, and is higher and more prominent than the tabernacle. It's so infuriating. The irreverence the parishioners have for the sacred space is heart breaking. I use to be one of them, but 1 priest in our area had made a huge difference in the way I see the sanctuary. So blessed to have priests that are not afraid to teach about the sacredness of the House of God.

  • @st.michaelthearchangel7774
    @st.michaelthearchangel7774 2 роки тому +2

    Fr. Calloway is an amazing priest. :)

  • @Elainemom
    @Elainemom 2 роки тому +2

    Yes Father , tabernacle in the right place!!

  • @jameskearney4100
    @jameskearney4100 2 роки тому +2

    My Church now. The Tabernacle is in a side room, the Crucifix is over the far left side of the Church, and you are only given the host on the hand. Everyone holds hands when singing it is like being at a protestant Church!

    • @ntmn8444
      @ntmn8444 2 роки тому

      So write to your bishop. Also the giving the host in the hand is because of COVID, but that’s coming to an end soon.

    • @jameskearney4100
      @jameskearney4100 2 роки тому

      @@ntmn8444 My Bishop knows. The amount of letters he gets matter not. Nor should it.

  • @elmcityslim
    @elmcityslim 2 роки тому +2

    Brutal. I walked out of a parish once because the Tabernacle was on a shelf in a dark corner of an alcove.
    I then walked back in because there was no other mass to go to. This church had an identity crisis as it seemed to have been designed by two separate individuals. The first one was a Catholic as the stained glass was actually quite lovely and the hallways were littered with icons! Than there was the other guy who was designing a Protestant nightmare warehouse. The baptismal font is on wheels, I already described the Tabernacle, the pews are set up like a carpenters compass around the altar. No reverence.

  • @lovepeace9780
    @lovepeace9780 2 роки тому +3

    Pls. Pray the Rosary & Devine Mercy Chaplet for peace in RUSSIA & UKRAINE..Pls. pray for peace and joy on all families and home.. ...

  • @yolandasalazar8773
    @yolandasalazar8773 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @StingRaeTheSingingSiren
    @StingRaeTheSingingSiren 2 роки тому

    I’ve been to some parishes lately like this and it was so distressing!

  • @ivanspaziano1977
    @ivanspaziano1977 2 роки тому +1

    Impossible to think, a Church without the Lord.

  • @sailorsam6494
    @sailorsam6494 2 роки тому +3

    The tabernacle
    The genuflect
    The sign of the cross
    Silence in his presence before mass and after.
    Indeed the whole building that houses the mass
    They mark our deepest respect and love for Jesus.
    Perhaps the placement of the tabernacle echoes that.
    In a most confusing way the scrambling of the clergy to attract new membership reaches where no other generation of clerics has gone. I do wonder if Jesus would have dallied so long with continental appeasement.
    The thrashing of the money changer’s comes to mind.
    But then “ forgive them they know not what they do “
    My thoughts. In prayer🙏🏻

  • @alejandraleighty
    @alejandraleighty 2 роки тому +27

    Our priest told us this whole thing about placing the tabernacle off the altar done purposefully to prevent the impulse of venerating Jesus in the sacrament. It was a sermon he gave on the feast of Corpus Christi and he explicitly said he had just come back from a retreat with all the priests and their bishop (cupich) who had educated them about many things among which were things like …the sacrament should be shared with everyone of any faith because our parish school had kids of all faiths…and the good thing about modern churches is that the tabernacle is placed elsewhere because ppl should not be kneeling in front of the altar bc Jesus is actually everywhere. He also singled out the Hispanic community of this Chicago neighborhood for being the crazy ones who kneel too much and don’t take communion in the hand. Not very pc of him actually.

    • @gtaylor178
      @gtaylor178 2 роки тому +10

      Pray for your priest and the rest who clearly have been malformed in Seminary. I have seen so much of their nonsense, we have just been on a "retreat" and we know better. When in fact they have been useful idiots of Satan not challenging this nonsense and drivel from their bishop. There is way too much old school boy attitude among clergy and not enough faith. Frightening stuff. That's how corrupt and spiritually blind bishops changed to Communion in the hand - all Satan's work.
      Pray and fast for priests and bishops. God bless the Hispanic Community too wrapped up in the Lord to listen to Satan's agents. Always Kneel before Our Lord.

    • @j2muw667
      @j2muw667 2 роки тому +8

      This hurts my heart. Evil is truly influencing many from within.
      It feels more like they just removed Jesus from us.

    • @cn4492
      @cn4492 2 роки тому +9

      Chicago under Cupich is a train wreck. Blasphemous

    • @alejandraleighty
      @alejandraleighty 2 роки тому +5

      @@derek4412 I hope so, we just need to pray for them bc this particular priest im talking about was youngish and straight from an African country. When he arrived about 7 years ago he was so solid and was one of the few I had personally heard speaking about making the rites more traditional so to speak and so that they align more with catholic theology -like in his country in Africa. Then he flipped a switch and slowly began removing incense and the bells ..to worrying about having “greeters”..to giving problematic sermons.

    • @Vinsanity997
      @Vinsanity997 2 роки тому +2

      @@alejandraleighty The most important thing is that you teach your family and friends that the focus should be on Jesus no matter what the priest says. The Lord deserves the traditional elements because they are all focused on revering and loving Him as He has been loved for hundreds and hundreds of years

  • @marcolucius5083
    @marcolucius5083 2 роки тому

    Wow that is a very protestant looking church

  • @ruthushka
    @ruthushka 2 роки тому +1

    His parents church- on the naval base-the tabernacle was down the hall probably in a “blessed sacrament chapel” because most chapels on military installations are ecumenical- not exclusively for Catholics to use. On the base where I live, not only is the tabernacle down the hall, the altar is moved aside after every mass for the next congregation, Protestant non-denominational, to set up their worship band. 😐 It’s not lack of reverence that causes these things but military regulations and constraints. Fr. Emil Kapuan pray for us.

  • @jacintaheley7816
    @jacintaheley7816 2 роки тому

    So good…….it takes a sinner to know one………love the zeal…..😎

  • @bcalvert321
    @bcalvert321 2 роки тому

    Right, uh really awesome dude. It is like wow.

  • @myronmercado
    @myronmercado 2 роки тому

    Fr Don is just extreme by nature.

  • @scygnius
    @scygnius 2 роки тому +1

    Love a priest who says bro

  • @Marist_Chanel
    @Marist_Chanel 2 роки тому +1

    About 10 years ago at the parish i grew up in, everyone found out that they were removing the Tabernacle from the Sanctuary so a petition was started up. More than 3/4 of the parish signed that petition and yet they still went ahead and moved the Tabernacle to what was once a storage cupboard.
    The only positive that came out of all this is that after much debate, they named it ‘Blessed Sacrament Chapel’ because if they had it their way, it would’ve been ‘(insert name) Memorial Chapel’.

    • @jgesselberty
      @jgesselberty 2 роки тому

      Then it was no longer a church and they should have walked. Money talks and the lack of congregation and contributions would speak loudly.

    • @Marist_Chanel
      @Marist_Chanel 2 роки тому

      @@jgesselberty half the parish left but they don’t care.

    • @bethq1703
      @bethq1703 2 роки тому

      Why would they move it? Who decided that? I have not heard of a tabernacle not being in a sanctuary or moved before. Mind you I am returned Catholic. I take it it's a rare phemenomen then thankfully? The tabernacle seems built in within old churches that I've seen. The whole thing is outrageous. Jesus is exalted on a cross and rightfully so over the tabernacle. I seen a well-known Marian church service online lately. Great service, very helpful sermons for our soul but instead of Jesus hung on a cross it was Blessed Virgin Mary statue in his place. I love our Blessed Virgin Mary very much. She is our Intercessor. But Jesus should be on display over a tabernacle not Our Lady. He is God.

    • @gtaylor178
      @gtaylor178 2 роки тому

      @@Marist_Chanel Oh they do care I promise you , as they are faithless wastelings only interested in money, power and prestige, do not give them any money drive to a Catholic Parish for Mass.

  • @day1678
    @day1678 2 роки тому

    Please, please consider praying an additional holy Rosary to your current daily one, for the loving intentions of our Blessed Mother - she will be ever so grateful: as well as fasting to your capacity. We need her maternal help now, more than ever. Pray for one another - especially the clergy: the Holy Father included. God bless you.

  • @glennlanham6309
    @glennlanham6309 2 роки тому +2

    as usual Father Don dead on

  • @annettewiggins399
    @annettewiggins399 2 роки тому

    I also, when I walk into a church I'm new to,look for the tabernacle,shouldn't have to.
    Like where have they hidden u Lord.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 2 роки тому

    To some of us still left the glory days were the Pontificate if Pius XII!

  • @peaceandlove544
    @peaceandlove544 2 роки тому +3

    I was in shock when I first went to Canada during 1990's and I was taken to a "church" that to me seem like instead of the altar they had a table. My God!! I said please next time take me to the oldest church in town with the oldest priest around. They ended up taking me to an anglican church 😆, I told them I meant the oldest catholic church and catholic priest. They did.
    By the way the music at that anglican church with that English organ music was very nice, but it did not feel like mass because it was not a catholic mass.

    • @ntmn8444
      @ntmn8444 2 роки тому

      That’s because it’s not.

  • @maryannewillequer3305
    @maryannewillequer3305 2 роки тому +1

    Unfortunately, all military chapels do not have the tabernacle in the chapel. It is in the Blessed Sacrament Room, usually down the hall. Discouraging, but we deal with it.

  • @joshuacooley1417
    @joshuacooley1417 2 роки тому +7

    Here is what Canon Law says about the placement of the Tabernacle...
    "The holy Eucharist may be reserved only on one altar or one place in any church, and a vigil lamp must bum at all times to indicate and honor the presence of our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. This tabernacle must be immovable, made of solid and opaque material, and locked to prevent theft or desecration of the Blessed Sacrament. The tabernacle "should be placed in a part of the Church that is prominent, conspicuous, beautifully decorated, and suitable for prayer"
    Under some circumstances it is actually recommended that the Tabernacle NOT be in the main sanctuary as per the following...
    "It is therefore recommended that, as far as possible, the tabernacle be placed in a chapel distinct from the middle or central part of the church, above all in those churches where marriages and funerals take place frequently, and in places which are much visited for their artistic or historical treasures"
    The point of this instruction has to do with the point that the placement of the Tabernacle needs to take into account, creating an environment conducive to private prayer and adoration of the Faithful. If the main sanctuary is in use for marriages, funerals, or be tourists, these all disturb and distract the faithful in their prayer and adoration, thus the Tabernacle should be moved to a side chapel to be more readily available.
    The instructions for placement of tabernacles also recommend NOT having the Tabernacle on the Altar so as not to divert attention from the celebration of the Eucharist during the mass etc.
    In general there are three main rules.
    #1 the Location has to be noble, prominent, dignified. It needs to properly reflect the honor do the the Blessed Sacrament.
    #2 the location has to be readily visible and available to the faithful for prayer and adoration
    #3 the Tabernacle must be able to be secured and immovable.
    If the Church is not "busy" with traffic, then it is probably preferable to have the Tabernacle in the main sanctuary, behind the altar or maybe on a side altar.
    There is no particular problem with having the Tabernacle in a side chapel, especially if the main sanctuary receives a lot of traffic for other reasons, or it is otherwise somehow easier for the faithful to visit the side chapel for prayer etc.
    If the Church is deliberately shunting the tabernacle to the side or deliberately obscuring it to prevent attention, discourage adoration, or just out of general sloth, then yes that is a big problem.

    • @kimrobinson4442
      @kimrobinson4442 2 роки тому

      Thanks for taking the time to explain this, I've often wondered why our tabernacle isn't up the front where I can see it. When I go to mass I feel as if I should genuflect towards the tabernacle though, any thoughts on this please?

    • @joshuacooley1417
      @joshuacooley1417 2 роки тому

      @@kimrobinson4442 You should genuflect to the tabernacle if it is visible and the tabernacle lamp is lit (meaning the Blessed Sacrament is present).
      I think a lot of priests and people would say that the best option under normal circumstances is to have the Tabernacle in the sanctuary behind the main altar, so that it visually aligns with the altar. People can thus see it when they enter and genuflect accordingly.
      But it depends on the specific circumstances of your parish, maybe there are reasons why this wouldn't work?
      Where is the tabernacle placed in your parish?

    • @kimrobinson4442
      @kimrobinson4442 2 роки тому

      @@joshuacooley1417 It is at the back of the inside of the church opposite the altar in prayer room.

    • @ralphbinney5456
      @ralphbinney5456 2 роки тому

      That makes sense our Historical Church also has a School and the Sanctuary

    • @gtaylor178
      @gtaylor178 2 роки тому

      That "instruction" was clearly written by very bad people with very bad agendas. Get a grip!

  • @cyama8679
    @cyama8679 2 роки тому

    El fuego... “la ira por la casa de my padre me consume”.
    Por que nadie se atreve a decir nada, por eso estamos como estamos

  • @glennlanham6309
    @glennlanham6309 2 роки тому +2

    i was in seminary with Don, yes he was JUST a bit raw..heh

  • @jamesmondok8635
    @jamesmondok8635 2 роки тому +7

    What’s next? A Dhurch without a Tabernacle anywhere??? That would not be a Catholic Church!!! We must keep the True Catholic Faith deep in our Hearts while the Catholic Church of today, crumbles!!! This certainly isn’t the Catholic Faith that I was brought up in…God help us…+Fr. James

    • @jmj-7265
      @jmj-7265 2 роки тому

      Amen !!! This isn’t the truth ! And we know that . We must stick to our original wishes from God

  • @larrywethington3175
    @larrywethington3175 2 роки тому

    Anyone ever heard of Inaestimabile Donum by Pope John Paul? One priest said "It was written to correct abuses in the liturgy." But the clergy don't follow it, nor ever quote it.

  • @ArchMikel
    @ArchMikel 2 роки тому +1

    This is one of the reasons why I attend the Eastern Rite “Divine Liturgies.” Melkite Catholic liturgies are very reverent.

  • @paolapizani2844
    @paolapizani2844 2 роки тому

    HAPPY ONOMASTIC!

  • @RedefiningBodybuilding
    @RedefiningBodybuilding 2 роки тому +2

    Sad to say, I just visited the ARCHDIOCESE cathedral in Los Angeles. And THE TABERNACLE is NOT in the sanctuary and it's a travesty. It's a monstrosity of a building anyway. But this removal makes the whole sanctuary feel... Empty.

  • @Carlos101010101
    @Carlos101010101 2 роки тому

    More hellfire and brimstone, please!

  • @francesbernard2445
    @francesbernard2445 2 роки тому

    I hear that those tabernacles are and any fully clothed in appropriate attire statues are more than just a little expensive most of the time. In addition they are pretty hard to hide after mass is over in places like China while continuing for a lifetime hoping for enough funds to build a church building to put it in. Seems to me that the wise thing to do when receiving a gift from a foreigner who can't afford much would be to gift something appropriate like a tabernacle and appropriate fully clothed statues n return at the right time in some cases which isn't going to cost them their lives.

  • @femaleKCRoyalsFan
    @femaleKCRoyalsFan 2 роки тому +2

    I go to traditional Latin mass now so I refuse to set foot in my sister’s parish in another diocese. they apparently built a new church so they could put the tabernacle up front, but they stream a mass on Sunday and I looked at one of those streams that is apparently in the new church, I don’t see the tabernacle anywhere within wherever their camera is. When I would go to Sunday mass there which I only did if I was spending the night because I was helping out because I was babysitting my sister’s kids so they could go out to eat or something and then I spent the night, If I was lucky enough to get there before mass began, I would genuflect towards the back of the church because that’s where they stuck the tabernacle. That type of sacrilege makes me extremely uncomfortable if I visit a Catholic church & the tabernacle is nowhere in sight. That is one of the reasons I am glad that all traditional Latin mass chapels/churches have the tabernacle upfront which was the tradition before Vatican II destroyed that. In fact in my diocese the bishop made it a rule that every parish in the diocese had to have the tabernacle upfront front and center. I wish more bishops would do that! In fact it actually took me a little while to get used to that because it was up in the front of Church but it wasn’t on the altar when I was a kid it was in front of this little group of pews called the adoration station but after a while I did get used to it and now I have to look for the tabernacle any time I visit a church that is not specifically TLM.

    • @johne2815
      @johne2815 2 роки тому

      I understand your concern, but the Code of Canon law does allow the tabernacle to be placed in a side chapel if it is done reverently. I don’t know much about what your sister’s church is like, but refusing to step into it sounds extreme to me.

    • @femaleKCRoyalsFan
      @femaleKCRoyalsFan 2 роки тому

      @@johne2815 But this was not a side chapel, this was in the back of the church. one time i even saw an EMHC go to the back to retrieve the ciborium! And this was not a male EMHC, this was a woman, so that makes it even worse because that was a huge liturgical abuse. I’m also pretty sure that canon law did not exist before Vatican II because every church would have had the tabernacle upfront on the high altar!

    • @sassychimpanzee7431
      @sassychimpanzee7431 2 роки тому

      @@femaleKCRoyalsFan women are allowed to be Eucharistic ministers. I agree the Tabernacle should be on the altar front and center, but some of your views seem a bit extreme.

    • @bethq1703
      @bethq1703 2 роки тому

      Why would they move it? Who decided that? I have not heard of a tabernacle not being in a sanctuary or moved before. Mind you I am returned Catholic. I take it it's a rare phemenomen then thankfully? The tabernacle seems built in within old churches that I've seen. The whole thing is outrageous. Jesus is exalted on a cross and rightfully so over the tabernacle. I seen a well-known Marian church service online lately. Great service, very helpful sermons for our soul but instead of Jesus hung on a cross it was Blessed Virgin Mary statue in his place. I love our Blessed Virgin Mary very much. She is our Intercessor. But Jesus should be on display over a tabernacle not Our Lady. He is God.
      Regarding Eucharistic Ministers I need to look into it further but just curious what is wrong with having female Eucharistic Ministers? Is there some where in Gospel that forbids it? I ask not to judge just to learn more on this matter.

    • @_MysticKnight
      @_MysticKnight 2 роки тому

      @@bethq1703 They aren't called "Eucharistic Ministers". They are called "Extraordinary Ministers". That should tell you how often they are supposed to be used.

  • @tedprice5828
    @tedprice5828 2 роки тому

    Jesus is THE tabernacle of God. He has replaced the old tabernacle.

  • @teresabailey7857
    @teresabailey7857 2 роки тому

    Father, what do you think about calling adoration Praise and Worship, while having the Monstrance out while instruments and loud singing is present.or while a guest speaker is present with Jesus on the altar?! Teaching our youth! I removed my daughter from the Lifeteen classes. I hope I did right.

  • @SummaGirl1347
    @SummaGirl1347 2 роки тому +14

    The Novus Ordo is just musical theatre and the Tabernacle is an unnecessary prop. In most churches in California, you need a map to find it, if it's even in the church at all.

    • @LadyK007
      @LadyK007 2 роки тому

      😩

    • @kurtnotafed4645
      @kurtnotafed4645 2 роки тому

      Novus ordo =/= the weird stuff father Greg does

    • @ferreus
      @ferreus 2 роки тому

      @@kurtnotafed4645 It kinda is though, because the NO is what how it's actually practiced perhaps more than what the books say. If a parish, public NO Mass is celebrated ad orientem, that is immediately suppressed. In that sense in the NO, ad orientem is abuse and clowns are according to the rubrics. But all of these things are, at a minimum, tolerated. It's a feature, not a bug.

    • @lonelyberg1808
      @lonelyberg1808 2 роки тому +1

      not cool to say that

    • @ferreus
      @ferreus 2 роки тому

      @@lonelyberg1808 not cool for the progressve bishops to make this the truth.

  • @gill426
    @gill426 2 роки тому +1

    Oh the picture of the Church in the thumbnail looks suspiciously like a very modern and not very beautiful church in my hometown. This picture was not by chance taken in Germany actually? 😯

  • @juliabishop1968
    @juliabishop1968 2 роки тому

    I always think how can a parish be Christ centred, if the Tabernacle, is in the broom cupboard or some other location that is not the heart and centre piece of any Church.

  • @stampdealer
    @stampdealer 2 роки тому +2

    Unfortunately, some of the tabernacles that I've seen, especially in "space ship" churches, are best kept "down the hall." Sad.
    Actual exchange in a "space ship" church:
    Me: Where's the tabernacle?
    Other: Over there, off to the left.
    Me:*seeing a cement gray orb* Is that the Death Star?
    Other: *sigh* No, some sort of globe.
    Me: *sigh*
    Other: *sigh*

  • @mattberg916
    @mattberg916 2 роки тому +4

    I detest what has become of so many of our churches. It's not a concert, it's not an amphitheater your priest is not on stage and is not the star of the show !

  • @moragmarinoni3397
    @moragmarinoni3397 2 роки тому

    The clip was too short :-)

  • @jgesselberty
    @jgesselberty 2 роки тому

    If you want to talk about tabernacles, the tackiest and most outlandish I had ever seen was a statue of the Blessed Mother, with a golden tube coming out of her robes and attached to a tabernacle shaped like a fetus.

    • @luvmybears64
      @luvmybears64 2 роки тому

      If only I could believe you were kidding!

    • @ohwhataday7171
      @ohwhataday7171 2 роки тому

      Oh my!! What is happening to our Catholic Church ?

  • @mirajimenez5954
    @mirajimenez5954 2 роки тому

    Ironically, in Fatima, Portugal, a big church was erected which looks like more an auditorium and the tabernacle is at the back... It is modern and ugly... They don't use the nice church anymore... The real locals don't like attending mass there... They prefer to go to the church where the children of Fatima were baptised...

  • @Desert-Father
    @Desert-Father 2 роки тому

    Another "gift" from the post Vatican II consilium committee. Don't put Jesus in a broom closet people. He should be in the center of the Church.

  • @graciemitchem7515
    @graciemitchem7515 2 роки тому +3

    God is not the center of their lives.

  • @erinduvic8579
    @erinduvic8579 2 роки тому

    😂🤔

  • @Skinny123451000
    @Skinny123451000 2 роки тому

    It is Christ who saves, not the Church. Matthew 23
    King James Version
    23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
    2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
    3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
    4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
    5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
    6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
    7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
    8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
    9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
    10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
    11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
    12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
    13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
    14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
    15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
    16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
    17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
    18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
    19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
    20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
    21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
    22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
    23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
    24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
    25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
    26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
    27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
    28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
    29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
    30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
    31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
    32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
    33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
    38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
    39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

  • @nolansmall1028
    @nolansmall1028 2 роки тому

    What is the purpose of the Tabernacle, if He has dwelt among us?

    • @mariemunzar6474
      @mariemunzar6474 2 роки тому +1

      Holy eucharist is kept inside the tabernacle, that is Jesus body, blood, soul and divinity. Yes Jesus is with us but he is with us in more than one way. The eucharist is the most tangible way.

  • @paulhudson4254
    @paulhudson4254 2 роки тому

    Gtrf

  • @eddarby469
    @eddarby469 2 роки тому +6

    A tabernacle on the altar is not required for salvation. We need to avoid this kind of attitude.

    • @jonathanstensberg
      @jonathanstensberg 2 роки тому +7

      Required, no; beneficial, yes.

    • @eddarby469
      @eddarby469 2 роки тому +3

      @@jonathanstensberg But you're giving the impression there is something wrong without a tabernacle. You will drive people away from the church if you tell them something they did all during their childhood was wrong or even inadequate reverence. It would be better to have a mill stone tied around your neck... be very careful how you discuss this tradition.

    • @ElCid48
      @ElCid48 2 роки тому +4

      I find your attitude strange. are you so afraid of Christ that you say this ? Christ is in the tabernacle. Remember His first Tabernacle was the Virgin Mary's womb by the Power of the Holy Ghost. Nothing is impossible to God the Father. I believe this and I have more Faith in HIm than in the governments of Mankind.

    • @djspenceital
      @djspenceital 2 роки тому +1

      @@jonathanstensberg Questionable. Beneficial in some circumstances maybe. But not in all. Either way it’s not an Apostolic practice, so it’s not Sacred Tradition.

    • @mikedoyle1780
      @mikedoyle1780 2 роки тому +8

      With no tabernacle the church becomes no more than a social club - the Catholic church is losing respect for the Eucharist in many places - we must strive to give total respect and devotion to the Eucharist at all times and in every setting.

  • @dodibenabba1378
    @dodibenabba1378 2 роки тому

    Scripture says not to call yourself Father.....so why do you?

    • @dodibenabba1378
      @dodibenabba1378 2 роки тому

      @Rhymes of Men Dad. I'm also not a prot you religious spirit. I am an adopted son of the Most High God.

    • @dodibenabba1378
      @dodibenabba1378 2 роки тому

      @Rhymes of Men not if you believe scripture.... Matthew 23 v9. Straight from the mouth of Jesus Christ. So if you have an issue with it, I'd take it up with Him. Blessings Dodi. 🙏🗡️🙂✝️🙌

    • @dodibenabba1378
      @dodibenabba1378 2 роки тому

      @Rhymes of Men Nice try, I said no such thing. Go and read Jesus's words, they cannot be misinterpreted. Your problem is you love your religion rather than relationship with Our Heavenly Father. I bid you adieu.

    • @dodibenabba1378
      @dodibenabba1378 2 роки тому

      @Rhymes of Men what you should love is your Heavenly Father with all your heart and mind and others as you love yourself. You know this. Do not let a man be a gatekeeper between you and the Lord, because if you do you will follow a religion and not have a relationship. What does your Bible say? Do what your Bible says is what I'd say to you. Are you even born again? Don't get huffy calling me illumined, read your Bible for yourself, and don't follow men, follow the Lord. God bless you. God did not give you religion, God gave you His Son. Read your Bible, repent everyday. Pray. Walk as humbly as you can.

    • @gtaylor178
      @gtaylor178 2 роки тому

      Scripture says wipe the dust from your feet to those who talk drivel.