It is said from Fi herself in Skyward Sword that after going dormant in the Master Sword that she would be unable to have a physical form. So she cannot show herself to anyone.
I'm still hopeful that through the magic of the Triforce Zelda will be able to manifest a physical body for Fi's spirit to inhabit so that she may once again become an active companion for her Master... 😢
@@javiervasquez625impossible considering the goddess made her to lead the hero of the sky’s and he completed his mission she is still in the sword and speaks to link and zelda all the time we just can’t understand it she literally tells zelda link is safe in TOTK through the noises it makes
@@ExoticEio The Triforce has _omnipotent_ power and can grant ANY wish the user desires so it's extremely possible for Zelda to make such a wish as long as she's aware she carries the Triforce within her person (which she currently does not).
@@javiervasquez625 true I forgot she didn’t even have the piece of wisdom and link didn’t even get the piece of courage I wonder where the triforce is I never even thought about it
@@ExoticEio As i just said above: Zelda HAS IT _within_ her as shown here: 3:20 It was the Triforce's magic which reforged the Master Sword back to it's fully powered state.
The scene where Zelda calls the sword "she" went completely unnoticed by me and surely more people, because in Spanish normally swords are referred to as "she" "la espada" and not "el espada" lol
Same, I speak Portuguese and the rule is the same, so even on English I often use he and she when referring to items, rather than it. It completely slipped my mind that Zelda's "she" was on reference to Fi, because she the sword makes complete sense to me. (¯ヮ¯٥)
The Dutch subtitles (because they didn't make a Dutch dub) refuse to call the sword 'zij' which translates to 'she' and insists on using 'het' which translates to 'it'.
@@TheTurnipKing So a brand new and re-forged holy weapon "runs out of energy" lmao dumbest mechanic ever, its quite clear Aonuma was bored with Zelda with botw and wanted a different game for creative freedom reasons. I assume its the Big Whigs that forced him to use Zelda for the marketing and IP reasons. In return he butchers the lore, timeline, and tries to divorce himself from anything that might get in the way of creative freedom and now we have a new master sword that still needs batteries lmao.
@@Spartan1312 supposedly when the Sword is bathed in Sacred power the Base strength of the sword grows and the Sword has a charge for the "Glint" where the power can be emitted at a distance. (In the older games this included throwing energy blades at a distance when you were at full health, I assume that Link was taking the power burden of throwing those? He could power magic in those games without stress) So lets say the Swords base damage to "Evil" was 100 and the base physical damage was 100 and the glint emits the Anti Evil damage at 500% (600 total). Then when it was bathed in holy flames each added base of both at 25 leaving the swords base damage at 175 and 175 or when the glint is active 875 and 175 (1050 total). Between games the sword recovers then gains power when bathed in Sacred power for a period of time (first going to repair durability loss and recharge before going into the permanent damage) and we have a time frame for the repair but no noticeable growth, 100 years. Durability loss seems to increase and the battery capacity seems to decrease each time the Sword hits Gloom or other corruption and the Sword doesn't seem to recover those stats when it is repairing or improving. All of this implies that the Sword will keep improving damage and losing defense as encounters with Demise keep happening, enough encounters and Demise's whole goal in fighting Link will be "Break the Sword before I get hit as it'll one shot me but is fragile"
@Spartan1312 it doesn't run out of energy at all against Ganondorf and his phantoms, which the same can't be said against Guardians, Calamity Ganon, or even post-Trial of the Sword in BOTW. It would quite literally invalidate the entire weapon sandbox if it never ran out of energy after acquiring it.
When Rauru imprisoned Ganondorf underneath Hyrule castle, Ganondorf's power began to slowly build back up and return to him. Rauru's magic-draining hold over him was only temporary. So by the time we got to BotW, Ganon had regained enough energy back to be able to 'remote control' Divine beasts and Guardians and his malice was spreading across the land. Weapons also broke for the first time in any Zelda game - they had a bit of durability but they were weakened compared to previous Zelda games. Malice was harmful to the touch but people who came into contact with it could still use regular foods and elixirs to recover from it. And although Link and Zelda were victorious in defeating Calamity Ganon, they did not destroy the source that puppet's energy, still hidden underneath the castle. So by the time we reached TotK, Ganon's power had grown even more potent. Malice was amplified into Gloom and Gloom prevents people who come into contact with from being able to heal themselves (unless they are lucky enough to find a cure made from Sundelions). And immediately when the upheaval began, all weapons became decayed (even worse than their brittle form in BotW). Ganon had never been able to destroy the Master Sword previously or even other weapons across the land in such a way. So what changed that? The Secret Stone he stole. It was slowly amplifying his regular power over the years. It's natural for the Master Sword's energy to wane but Ganon was only able to shatter it with the help of his Secret Stone. In the next Zelda sequel if Ganon re-incarnates into a new body again, he will not have that stone so maybe we won't see breakable weapons next time around. Maybe we'll see a race between new Ganondorf and Link's descendant to acquire Triforce pieces, since that relic was absent in both recent games.
If they continue the breath of the wild/ tears of the kingdom style of game play, i hope we get one of the other kingdoms like Termina, Holdrum, Labrynna or even we could go check on new hyrule just for fun.
Yeah exactly, I think one important thing to note is that when ganondorf is sealed, he’s specifically in his demon king form, he retains this form throughout all time until the beginning of TotK. So despite his power weakening and very slowly becoming stronger, he remains in his “powered up state” I think if he were to have been sealed as just ganondorf, he wouldn’t have been able to break the sword
There is a theory that the secret stones are pieces of the triforce broken up. If true, then it would explain how the gloom would be able to break the sword.
It would make sense in a way, we’ve never seen such a powerful item before that seem to just Amp people ability the only time we’ve seen this is with Ganon Triforce of Power in OoT. And without a clear look at a Triforce in the game at all, it could be ether 1. It was lost somewhere or somewhere down the line destroyed and lost to time. Or as you said pieces up into the stones.
I think something many people have forgotten or not realized is that the Master Sword was never designed to last. In the very beginning of the timeline, Hylia created the Goddess Sword and left the three Scared Flames so the weapon could reach its full potential as the Master Sword. All of that was done so Link could defeat Demise. It was never intended to be used beyond that event in time. Given that the Master Sword was forged by Hylia (a goddess) and bathed in the power of the three Golden Goddesses, it is completely understandable that it would be extremely powerful and durable. But the intention was for it to be used once. That was why Fi fell into a slumber at the end of Skyward Sword. Her purpose, and the sword's, were fulfilled. Hylia never intended for Demise to cast his curse on Zelda and Link and create an endless cycle of war between good and evil. That was an oversight that none of them could have anticipated. When Demise's incarnations rose up in the future, the Master Sword was seen as the best and greatest weapon to oppose them. And the events just kept repeating over and over again, with the Master Sword's power weakening each and every time it was wielded. In BOTW, Zelda recalls how Link, the Soul of the Hero, has been skyward bound, adrift in time, and stepped into the glowing embers of twilight. In this time period, those events are stories of legend and myth. It is so far into the future that the Master Sword is reaching its limits. Why do you think it was able to become damaged and shatter so easily? Sure it was because of Ganon's power, but it is also because the weapon is so weak. The Master Sword can restore itself, but only because it was designed to incase Demise was too strong. After that, it was never to be used again. Until Demise placed his curse. This is all theory, but I think this is the truth behind the sword. Great video, BTW. Can't wait for the next one! 😊
@@j-fizgamevids9408 The Master Sword technically wouldn't be at full power, just recharged. At the end of Breath of the Wild, Zelda's sealing power dwindled because it was used constantly for 100 years without pause. The Master Sword is similar, except that there were periods of time between uses, allowing it the opportunity to recharge itself and restore itself. But at some point, the sword will either truly shatter beyond repair or will become depleted of its power. Even a weapon of the goddesses is not infinite, as seen with Zelda's sealing power. If the Master Sword was at full power during Tears of the Kingdom, it never would have shattered. Link would have been able to defeat Ganondorf easily right then and there with a fully powered sword.
And thanks to the _Triforce_ dwelling *inside* Zelda was able to reforge/recharge the sword with it's _omnipotent_ Light so that the Hero may continue to wield the Blade of Evil's Bane into the future of the timeline.
@@nickmanus Zelda's "Sealing Power" is the _Triforce_ which i assure you is NOT "limited" as it is the combined *omnipotent* essences of the 3 Golden Goddesses who created the Zelda universe and as proven in A Link to the Past, Skyward Sword and A Link between Worlds it's power cannot be "depleted" no matter how much one uses it's divine magic to fulfill EVERY WISH the user desires. The reason why the current Zelda is unnable to fully tap into the Triforce's magic is a matter of discussion among the fandom as no solid explanation has been given by Nintendo as of the ending of Tears of the Kingdom which suggests there's still a lot we are yet told about the true nature behind her "Sealing Power" which will be addressed eventually in a future DLC or sequel to fully wrap up all loose ends and cliffhangers left at the end of the main storyline. Just to make it clear: Zelda's "Sealing Magic" has not "run out" after using it for 100/10.000+ years as the Triforce ,by _default,_ CANNOT run out given it's direct connection to the omnipotent Golden Goddesses and it's very purpose in maintaining balance in the world as shown in A Link between Worlds with the near destruction of Lorule due to their Triforce no longer existing. Wathever reason there is for Zelda's limited control over the Triforce know that Nintendo has yet given us an explanation meaning we have no choice but to wait for a future DLC/sequel in order to address said plotline.
The way I see it. The sword was planned to deal with demise and potential other future evils. However with proof of lore. The sword according to the great deku tree is as powerful as the source of Sacred Power and will grow stronger while bathed in it. Which means the entire time the sword diminished over time which proved that the sword was running on fumes. If you really think about it thats the only thing that makes sense. Over thousands of years the only sacred power it was bathed in was in the forest where would be only so much IF ANY. This stands to reason it never bathed in sacred power for thousands of years. Which would prove the swords diminish if this is true. Thats why what happened happened. So the only way was through Zelda's chosen method to fix it and bring it back to its true power again. With that said according to the Great Deku tree the sword has potentially NO LIMITS to its power. Its limitation is that of the source of sacred power its bathed in. So an ... heh Eternal Light Dragon of Sacred Power would be quite powerful. More powerful than zelda fully realized of her strength I might add to that.
I think that the Master Sword can never be truly destroyed. We've never seen the hilt harmed, and Breath of the Wild introduced the idea of it not working, but I would prefer to believe that that's more gameplay than lore, as is a lot of the weapons breaking. In Tears of the Kingdom, although the blade is broken, it still endures, even though Link's whole arm was covered and it could have touched all of it, the hilt was not tarnished at all, nor was anything under the triforce symbol on the blade (which arguably references it being bathed in the sacred flames of the goddesses. I think that because of it being empowered by the creators of the world, it can't be truly destroyed, only damaged, and when Zelda repairs it or the sages bless it, it's more like its figurative battery being charged, as it's reminded of its divine purpose and reconnected to the goddess Hylia and can draw from her power to defeat evil. In fact, it's like a more high-level version of how it acts in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, it will return eventually. Clearly, it gets some of this charge from its spot in Korok forest, but I think that it's only broken in Tears of the Kingdom because it's taken a lot of abuse and hasn't had much time to recharge, and also hasn't had as direct a source of power. My reason for believing this is because it actually stands up to gloom that fully destroys one of Link's heart containers just fine when you use it to fight Ganon, and can even redirect his gloom attacks, purifying them into light attacks that damage him.
Funfact: In case you haven't noticed Zelda was able to reforge by using the _Triforce_ which she carries within her body as shown in this scene 3:20 Notice the Light coming out of her _right hand_ just like when she unleashed her "Sealing Power" to obliterate Calamity Ganon once and for all. Zelda used the combined omnipotent power of the 3 Golden Goddesses to empower the shattered Master Sword back to it's fully powered state.
Nice theory, but just something tiny, I always thought that the spirit of the Master Sword's name was pronounced differently. The Japanese spelling of Fi's name is ファイ, the romanization of which is fai. Therefore, the English pronunciation would be faɪ (English IPA), as in rhyming with the word "my." (taken from gaming stack exchange)
English vowel rotation. /iː/ at some point mutated into /aj/. Fi is directly named after the Greek letter Φ/φ, whose name in English is usually pronounced as /faj/ because of the aforementioned rotation, but in most languages, and sometimes in English, it's pronounced closer to /fiː/ (close to English "fee"). It's somewhat interesting that the Katakana used would be the English rotated form rather than more traditional one.
Searching Google for the pronunciation, several sites mention that in the game Hyrule Warriors from Nintendo, Fi's name is spoken and pronounced "Fai" or "Figh", not "Fee". So to me, I'm good with that.
The sword has always needed to rest and recharge after peace is returned to Hyrule. That's why it is always put back after Link is done (except Wind Waker where it was left lodged in Ganondorf's skull).
I guess if you think about the Master sword as a divine relic, then it would make sense (at least to me) that over time, the less people that still believe in and directly pray to the Goddesses that were directly involved in its creation- the less potent that power becomes as time goes on. In the BotW/TotK time period we've reached so far in the future that the only divine diety that anyone truly prays to is Hylia herself. And while she has a lot of specific powers and holy energy, it was not her power alone that created the master sword. She was the creator of the Goddess blade and Fi; the basic foundation of the master sword itself, and the least powerful form that lacked the holy energy to purge pure evil. It took all three of the Golden Goddesse's very essence to purify and transform the Goddess blade into the master sword, and then Hylia herselfs blessing to fully awaken it into the blade with the power to purge evil. So in my opinion and theorizing head, I believe that as the entirety of Hyrule eventually moved on from the worship of the three Golden Goddesses to specifically only Hylia herself or regional deities that probably originate from historical events (like the Gerudo women), the blade has been perpetually losing its inherit power to counter act evil- because no one has been praying for the Golden goddesses protection to uphold their contributions to the blade. That could explain why in Wind waker the master sword is all but useless on Evil beings without the two sages of wind and Earth eternally praying to the heavens for the blade to maintain its power. The blade itself essentially reverted to a dormant state reminiscing of the unawakened master sword from SS- including retracting it's hilts fins inward, and blackening the golden gem. But in Wind waker the one thing the sword could still do despite it's evil repelling power being gone was to manipulate time and seal away most of Ganon's powers while in its pedestal. The power of time belonging to Hylia, and potentially linkable to her ability to seal Demise temporarily.
That's an interesting theory worth considering but i should point out that as shown in this scene right: 3:20 as long as you have the _full Triforce_ in your possession you can use the _omnipotent_ power of the 3 Golden Goddesses to reforge and "recharge" to it's full power just as it was when Link first imbued the Goddess Sword with the 3 Sacred Flames to transform it into the Master Sword. Since this Zelda is most definetly in possession of the full Triforce all it took was for her to empower it with the goddesses's Light so it would regain it's full power once more.
My theory on how the sword broke centers on its title, “the sword that seals the darkness” over the years, the sword has sealed darkness within itself, and i think Ganondorf used it to break it from the inside out
it is ironic that the white sword of the picori (which became the white sword after being reforged by the picori) and the white sword of the goddess that would later become the mastersword. In minish cap's story a light force is also mentioned. it's possible we got the origin wrong too, the white sword from the minish cap and the white sword of the goddess might be the same or at least related. Hylia is the goddess of time so who knows what the concept of time actually is.
In Skyward Sword, the power of Hylia, thereby the other 3 Goddesses, is officially titled as the Light Force, which is what empowers the Master Sword into the "True Master Sword." So, the sealing power of the Hylian Royal Family is called the Light Force from there after. Why it takes the form on the back of Zelda's hand as the Triforce in both BotW and this game are still unknown.
@@Zac_Frost Because it IS the _full Triforce_ as it's omnipotent power carrying the combined essences of the 3 Golden Goddesses is the only way in which Zelda is able to reforge the very same blade once forged with the 3 flames of the goddesses. It was also the omnipotent Triforce which allowed Zelda to regain her human self at the end of the game despite what Mineru said regarding the transformation been _irreversible_ without some omnipotent magic to counter the secret stone she swallowed. The only mystery now is figuring out why is the full Triforce hidden within Zelda, _who_ put it inside her and why is it she has such a limited use of it when back in Skyward Sword, A Link to the Past and A Link between Worlds it could be used to it's full extent.
The triforce had nothing to do with Zelda being returned back to her human form. Mineru even says that Rauru and Sonia, with their powers over light and time, had to have channeled their power through Link to pull that off, and that's exactly what we see
@@alexmulder1145 And yet you can _Light_ coming from Zelda's *body* when she's transforming back just as when she used it to reforge the Master Sword as shown during the last flashback. It was the combined power of Light (the Triforce) and Time which undid Zelda's draconification.
Oh btw Zelda is using the triforce in memory #18 just look carefully at her right hand. Whenever sacred power is mentioned it specifically refers to her triforce power.
Finally someone who noticed! :) The Triforce was also the reason why Silent Princesses appeared in the area where Link sees the final memory as a direct result of Zelda _creating_ them ex nihilo with the Triforce's omnipotent magic. It was also what transformed her back to her human self at the end of the game despite Mineru telling her that the effects of swallowing a secret Stone where _irreversible._ This prooves that the combined essence of the 3 goddesses is MORE powerful than the magic of the secret Stones.
Supposedly there is also sacred power in its pedestal in the Kokiri forest and in the other games it's prayers or Hylia's power which strenghtens it, so it's not only the power of the Triforce, it's the power of Gods. The Triforce is definitely a big source of sacred power but it's not the only one
@@javiervasquez625 It's *probably* more complicated than that. Zelda becomes a dragon in truth, but the memories you collect as part of the Geoglyph quest probably represent the parts of her she has to shed in order to become a Dragon. She has to be a Dragon in truth in order to get back to the present day. Even if she could somehow "leap" back with her time powers, she can't because her sacrifice is necessary to repair and empower the Master Sword, and becoming the Dragon is the only way to both increase her Light Power and guard/restore the blade. So, she loses herself but Ruaru/Link gather the memories she secreted, and when restored to herself, she should no longer remember the time when she was the Light Dragon. She didn't do it as a selfish act to obtain eternal life, but a pure act, in the earnest hope Link would be able to restore her. Truly, The Legend of Zelda.
@@TheTurnipKing ¿What is *complicated* about the *omnipotent* power of the combined Triforce? All i'm saying is that Zelda used the Triforce to transform herself back into a human again after Link defeated Ganondorf. Wether her transformation into a dragon is more "complicated" than that says nothing in regards to the Triforce's magic been able to undoe draconification after swallowing a Secret Stone.
If they add a master sword trial and I really hope they do I hope they do something with the other dragons involving their past using their power to restore it to an even greater strength that it in BOTW.
@@sarialueDon’t feel too bad about mispronouncing things. Honestly, I always think it’s just an indicator that someone might read more than they watch or listen to media, but I don’t know. Also, I think it’s funny, and now I want to call them that. 😂
Gloom and Malive seem to be some sort of Acid-Like substances (more extreme present in Gloom since it is shown that it can permamently cause damage on Link's Body like how much his arm got decomposed.) Meaning while the Master Sword can repell Evil causing it to not become a cursed weapon, it is not immune to physics, meaning while The "Evil Part" gets repelled the "Acid Part" of the Gloom and Malice remain. And I would say in conclusion the thing that actually makes Ganondorf as dangerous as the A Link to the Past Ganon, who had the full Triforce yet couldnt free himself without using the sages descendants, is Because he seems to have done some Studies in Chemistry
Gloom seem like acts as a manifestation of entropy. As it seems cause chaos or discord in molucules of things which causes them to break down, this would make sense for link as well as entropy eventually leads to death when it comes to cells.
the Triforce was stated to be growing weaker over time in the official strategy guide for A Link to the Past, so that Ganondorf being the strongest is a misconception. According to those same official guides, he was also defeated by Silver Arrows rather than the Master Sword.
@@mercury2157 As far as I am aware the Triforce itself wasnt growing weaker (this wouldnt make any sense Because it was later even able of creating a second Triforce for Lorule), instead the reason why a potentially Allmighty Ganon lost in there is Because the Master Sword - as stated in the A Link to the Past Manual - can resist any evil including Evil that wields the Triforce, That's why Ganondorf cannot simply Thanos Snap him, it is mostly unexplained why the Triforce doesnt work again as it should, it seems like a major plothole to me. And the Silver Arrows do not even damage him at all without the Master Sword, you need to use the Master Sword to damage him, but it can only harm him if you use spin attacks or if you upgraded it into the Golden Sword.
The way you put this actually gave credit to a timeline theory I watched recently which posited that the Zonai may have become the Picori. Since Rauru holds the power of the light force in him, it's possible other Zonai do as well.
The Picori were said to have descended from the skies as well, and we've only ever seen them in Minish Cap. So it could possible they're related in some way
Except Rauru had a Rito sage with him, and the Rito didn't exist for quite a long time after the events of OoT. My bet is the flashbacks with Rauru and Sonia take place during the massive time jump between TAoL/TP/ST and BotW
@@alexmulder1145 I actually kind of subscribe to the idea that the Rito could have been around at least since OoT, just not involved in the events of the game and outside of the playable map. When you look at their culture in BotW and TotK, they are fairly self-sufficient and seemingly the most removed from the rest of Hyrule (apart from the Gerudo), which makes sense as the Goron mines and Zora River would be important resources to Hyrule Kingdom, but the Rito don't have anything like that to offer. I've always suspected that the Hyrulian Civil War of pre-OoT is when the King of Hyrule became the 'sworn-brother' of Darunia and that the mines and smiths of Death Mountain would have been where Hyrule sourced its weapons and armor during the war. This could also help to explain the presence of Dodongos Cavern as a dungeon in OoT, not only as a food source for the gorons, but a means by Ganondorf to prevent that kind of trade and alliance should his plan of false fealty to Hyrule's King fail. Anyway, that's all to say that the Rito could be around and while the Hyrule Historia does confirm that the Rito evolved from the Zora in Wind Waker, there's always that niggly thing of "This is the information as we know it now, but as our understanding of the series evolves, so does its history." It has always been the most controversial thing about Wind Waker, something that can be hand waved away but always raises questions. The koroks 'evolving' from the Kokiri doesn't carry the same problem as, being 'forest fairies', their magical, fantastical, nature feels self-evident. Plus, I have my own little theory that the Koroks are not an evolution but the true form of the Kokiri, with their fairies in OoT masking them to appear closer to Hylian children so that Link could be raised in their society before the events of OoT. We've seen the Rito and Zora sharing Hyrule now, so it's not out of the question if we apply the same logic backwards to Wind Waker. Sure, we don't see the Zora, but in Twilight Princess there was a sense of secretiveness about their society. In fact, even in OoT, their home isn't accessible to Hylians outside the royal bloodline (or at least anyone who knows Zelda's Lullaby). All that said, I don't necessarily subscribe to the particular theory I commented here earlier, but it's fun to speculate. I personally don't think anyone has hit the nail on the head yet and it may yet take time. There's still some interesting speculation to be made about details like Ganondorf as the Demon King raising his army with the backdrop of what appears to be the 'Breach of Demise' location between Central Hyrule and the Hebra Region, for example. Could this imply that Ganondorf came to be known as Demise in legends between Rauru's era and the current time of TotK? In the japanese version of Skyward Sword, Demise is known as the 'Bringer of Demise'. So perhaps it evolved from the Demon King to Demise and later 'The (bringer of) Calamity', leading to 'Calamity Ganon'. All speculation, of course, and I've gotten sidetracked again, but while I'm on the topic, I do think it would be interesting to speculate on how far apart each memory is. I suspect Zelda was in that time for quite a while when putting the memories together with events told from the translated monuments, implying the war lasted quite some time, and given that we don't see the slow build up of Phantom Zelda/Ganon trying to gain Sonia's trust before Ganondorf steps in to take Sonia's secret stone. To me, there is an implied gap between that memory and the next with the raising of the demon armies. My best guess/theory with what we know so far, without really having fleshed out the details, is that Rauru's time is set before Skyward Sword (despite the founding of Hyrule, I know, I know), but I'm really taken with this idea I had that Zelda could have been a stand in for or misconstrued through legend as the Goddess Hylia, having helped Mineru raise the sky islands and create a cloud barrier. Mineru's spirit powers are reminiscent of Fi as the spirit of the Goddess Sword, and Zelda demonstrates greater power than Sonia when aiding Rauru to destroy the Moldugas. The Third eye motif on Rauru and Mineru are likely what inspired the Sheikah Symbol, so again the idea that Zelda was viewed as a goddess and the successors to the Zonai, the Sheikah, swear themselves to Hylia. And although Zelda takes on an immortal form, opposite to Hylia taking on a mortal form, there's a beautiful kind of parallel/mirroring symmetry there I like. Plus some sources do state that there was a Hyrule before the ascention into the sky. The other problem I'm all too aware of is Ganondorf coming before/being Demise which I know people hate, myself somewhat included, except to point out that the wording of Demise's curse could actually imply that he didn't set it in motion, but rather that, being a conqueror of time (let's not forget Ganondorf stole Sonia, the Sage of Time's, secret stone, hm?), he perceives that due to the actions of Hylia (or Zelda, or more technically Rauru, in this theory), they are forever bound in said cycle. Another thought I just had is the fact that the Skyloftians (just wanna put it out there that TotK neither says nor doesn't say that anyone went up with the sky islands) have the tradition of the sailcloth, which influenced the idea of the paraglider but in my realm of speculation could be seen as Zelda's stories of her and link being passed as Tradition as the world waits for the right Link/Hero. Also, Mineru repeats many times refering to Link as 'Zelda's Chosen Swordsman', similar to the phrase 'Hylia's Chosen Hero'. And lastly, as far as I've thought about it, while the Temple of Time doesn't resemble the Forgotten Temple/Temple of Time from Skyward Sword, the size of thst particular sky island and having a big monument like the Temple of Time does harken back to Skyloft itself, and the clouds surrounding the Rito dungeon in TotK is reminiscent of where Link learns his first harp song in Skyward Sword. Anyway, I'm done. Hope you find these ideas interesting at least. P.S. Forgot to mention the fact that Zelda becomes the stand-in Sage of Time, and given her magical appearance and disappearance in the past from the perspective of the Hylians themselves, you can see how legends might spread of a 'Goddess of Time'.
One thing to keep in mind with the master sword is also the severity of the damage it suffered. In BoTW after links "death", we see the sword chipped and dulled. If we were to make a human analogy it would be the same as a human having cuts and bruises, typical injuries from battle. However, in ToTK we see the Master Sword with not a damaged blade, but a DESTROYED blade. The sword was infected with the gloom and the blade was eroded then completely shattered. To repair the sword from such extreme damage would require FAR more than just the ambient sacred power found in the korok forest, it would need extreme levels of direct saturation in sacred power to fully restore and strengthen the blade. This whole element is the same theme we experience with link in ToTK. He suffered severe, degrading, and life threatening injuries from the gloom. Rauru himself said the only thing that saved links life was replacing his gloom-infested arm with Raurus arm, however link would have to spend a great deal of time journeying to the various shrines the retrieve the Blessing of Lights so he could use them to restore his lost strength. The Master Sword suffered extreme damage that would be utterly beyond repair were it an ordinary sword. It sends itself back in time with the help of the power of the Temple of Time to fall into the hands of Zelda. Zelda then sacrificed herself to exponentially increase her sacred power so she could transfer it to the sword to provide sufficient power to restore the sword. However the damage it suffered was severe and the only option was to use that sacred power to replace the blade were it was destroyed and gradually use the power of light to regain its power.
I can't help but believe that these new developments (I say new, but it's been over a decade) in the Master Sword's attributes, behaviors, and significance are the result in being a different sword, not in a literal sense but in who has made decisions regarding it. From 1991 through 2006, the Master Sword had fairly consistently been known as the sword crafted by the ancient sages in order to combat the greatest evil and seal it away, not so much destroy. Since 2011, though, the sword has taken on a new backstory, new attributes, and new significance, now being known as the blade forged by the goddess and tempered by her chosen hero, with sentience and a limited ability to combat evil, as well as, most notably, a more prominent tendency to outright destroy evil rather than simply to seal it. Significantly, this change seems to have corresponded with the rise of Fujibayashi Hidemaro as the head director and writer of Zelda, taking over from Aonuma Eiji, who became head producer. The Master Sword of ALttP, OoT, and TP and the Master Sword of SS, BotW, and TotK, to me, at least, could almost pass as entirely different weapons, whether for good or for bad. TWW's Master Sword is another box of Cuccos to be rolled into at a later date.
Weapons and vehicles such as ships are often given female names and pronouns as they can be seen as goddesses and protectors of their wielders, so Zelda acknowledging Fi as such makes sense.
well demise was sealed into the sword meaning he could have been weakening it over time hence its need to be returned to the pedestal or sacred grounds to help with reducing the influence of the corruption within. so that's why it constantly needs upkeep.
Pretty sure Demise's "consciousness" was slowly dying while trapped inside the sword as that's what Fi says in the japanese version of Skyward Sword before Link places it on it's pedestal in the Sealed Temple. The reason why Impa stood behind in the past was so that she could watch the sword in case Demise's spirit managed to break free somehow. Ganondorf IS Demise so it's impossible for them to exist at the _same_ time.
The sacred tear amplifies the user's power. If Ganondorf inherited Demises evil power, then the amplified power of the gloom can definitely break the Master Sword. I also wonder if the tear was attached to the Master Sword, then that should theoretically amplify her sacred power. I'd like to see Link use the tear himself and see what effect it would have on a Master Swordsman. Maybe godlike stamina, more strength and resilience.
I think it would straight up just give him Blade Mode from Metal Gear Rising. Free movement when his perception of time is slowed + the power and precision to cut clean through objects at will. I also like to imagine that the Stone would amplify the sword's raw cutting power as well, resulting in Blade Mode.
I think it's also good lowkey storytelling that yes, the Master Sword *repaired* itself over the 100 years of Link's slumber in BotW, but that was mainly its physical form. Its 'spiritual' or 'sacred' aspects needed *much* longer to be *restored*, namely the multiple thousands of years it took Zelda to fully bring back the blade from the brink of annihilation. From this we can conclude that the Master Sword's physical and sacred aspects are not restored at the same pace when put to rest. If anything, in the couple of years between BotW and TotK, the Master Sword barely had any time to restore more of its sacred power in the Korok Forest. From ALttP and ALBW, you can also see that man-made improvements to the blade by the smiths in both games will wear off eventually, since in ALBW the Master Sword has returned to its natural state. On the other hand, in ALttP, you do see that the final Master Sword 'upgrade' *is* done by a Great Fairy in the Dark World, which again is in character for a sacred, magic entity to be able to pull off... if only for a limited time here, appearently.
At the very least the sword doesn't break during the fight against Ganondorf. (I think. I went into that fight with a sword that was about to break, but during the fight it never shattered) So it's definitely just a gameplay thing.
@@zamen7545the only way I think you could've justified giving it infinite durability away from Ganondorf and his phantoms is if you don't give it the ability to fuse. A base damage of 75 at all times (Silver Lynel saber horn) with no durability would be pretty busted. Of course, this is bound to change in some way with Trial of the Sword 2 being inevitable, but in that case, you'll have definitely earned it. Getting an unbreakable weapon after completing only a third of the shrines would be pretty busted.
5:30 It dulls weapons because this instance of Gannondorf is intelligent and guided the malice/gloom to specifically target weapons. The Master Sword was simply it's fist victim. As for how it was strong enough to destroy the Master Sword, who knows. Probably from Tens of Thousands of years of neglect (if not hundreds or longer). Many was hoping this to mean Demise was making a comeback and were instead treated to Nintendo retconing the entire lore.
We dont know if this was a retcon. This game potentially takes place so far into the future we have no idea how far. For all we know this could be akin to Hyrule 5.0. There have been at least two Hyrules, maybe more. we have the main one we know from OoT, But the one from Spirit Tracks is a New Hyrule, Its one Tetra and WW link create after the events of WW and PH. Whos to say this isnt a new land. It could also be a reboot of sorts for the series, a way for them to step away from the "Official" timeline. And just make games with worrying about conflicting Info. Whose to say this isnt a brand new timeline that has all elements of the other three. which could very well be due to the fact that a lot of things in ToTK mirror older games. adn the fact there are references from all the timelines. Now granted, whos to say it isnt a retcon. it very well could be. But to take it as fact that it is a retcon is false imo. We dont have enough info on the timeline/history to say one way or the other. Both BoTW and ToTK are unlike any other games in the series.
@goldenarmorpikachu *All timeliness and most games are simultaneously mentioned (oracle games have yet to get some love), which can not happen without something akin to a DragonBreak or a retcon *Gannondorf was sealed since the start of Hyrule, and Hyrulians were portrayed as Mayans (if that's not a retcon, we should seriously question our own world's history) *Zora & Rito both exist, which shouldn't be possible as the Zora evolved into the Rito when the waters could no longer support Zora life after the great flood. Only way that's possible is a Drafon Break or a rotcon such as making Marin the new origin of the Rito
What makes me wonder is the fact that in botw there were actually two master swords, except if I'm mistaken. Bc Zelda was always deep above the clouds with the broken master sword but also having the master sword we know in the events of botw. Well it's confusing...
Yes, so in theory Link was almost able to dual wield masterswords, if he knew. Also, current post ToTK Zelda must be hella traumatized. She have seen countless calamities, and had to witness the calamity that she failed to stop twice.
The Light Dragon could have existed the entire time, flying above the clouds where nobody could see, but I'm thinking the time travel works a bit differently than most media portrays it. When you start a new game, you see the light dragon flying around the great sky island, and it's just that, the light dragon. As you finish the tutorial and get the door open in the temple of time you get to see the dragon one last time, only after the master sword gets sent back in time. From that point on the sword exists on the light dragons head, where it wasn't there until Link sent it back
3:20 Same as in this scene. In case you haven't noticed she's using the Triforce's _omnipotent_ magic to reforge the Master Sword back to it's fully powered state.
Just feels like the devs are at war with their own design in TOTK it feels like they just want the player to replace the master sword and don't look back
There is a “ white sword of the goddess” in totk. Its the skyward sword. I have it stored in my house in game right next to the wind waker boomerang. Im not sure if that sword being there messes with the continuity of the sword or not
Personally, i think Gloom is a mixture of Gannondorf's Blood and Malice, increasing it's potency. When Gannondorf was cut, it oozed from his wound. Since blood itself is not inherently evil it was likely enough to overcome the Master Swords power to repel evil at the time. The Master sword at that point was only as strong as the Deku Tree as it was with his sacred power that restored the sword enough to fight Calamity Ganon, so it shattered when it was not powerful enough to repel Gloom completely.
many things to point out: 1. the master sword in wind waker is most likely NOT the original master sword. one may chaulk it up to art style or even graphics but it DOES look different, the hilt is different and it's blade profile are also different. art style or graphic fidelity do not explain those away. there for using it to link its "being restored" needs is not correct. ergo the only the real master sword need to be restored is in botw and totk, and that is most likely added to the entire gameplay of those game with breakable weapons as a whole. And if the weapon degradation is not used in the next game the master sword will also not have the issue of being able to break. 2. the seal in windwaker was NOT put on ganondorf but the castle and every monster in it. ganon had already gone to the surface by that point and also killed the old sages keeping the new master sword powerful 3. Fi said she could not form physically outside the sword in skyward sword at the end. it is clearly stated by her as a fact to exactly explain WHY she does not appear in other games, specially older ones. in short this does stir some thought experiment but to many things are misunderstood or not correct entirely to fully support it as possibility.
I think we all forget one Minion of the Demon King his sword who could still exist awating his Master true Rebirth with this incarnation nearly being a perfect replica of him as seen in his form so he could restore him while unleashing all other Dark Gods and Demon Kings upon the worlds like Vaati Maladas Majora...
The one thing which should have happened is the restored master sword should have not been able to lose its power. It was in Zelda for thousands of years and just to go back to how it was at the start of the game.
I always thought that the sword was at its weakest because it didn’t finish its duty of defeating Ganondorf. Instead of fighting him, we fought something closer akin to Phantom Ganon in the form of Calamity Ganon, his power given some form through a means. It has basically been left on, losing its strength over time, still prepared to face Ganon until it became an empty shell. A weapon that can only use its sacred power for moments at a time because that’s all the power it has. It’s being used frequently, fighting against evil but never defeating it.
We seem to be missing that Fi was forever meant to remain dormant in the Sword once her mission was over, and while she is still technically in the sword, she can name become physical again, at least not without the power of all three pieces of the Triforce to grant her that. That being said, there’s a whole reason why the Master Sword just doesn’t always work right away when you get it in any Zelda game. It was NEVER meant to last, which is why a lot of missions require you to restore and/or power it back up. Yes, the sword was created by Hylia for the purpose of vanishing evil, but much like anything pretty much around us, they eventually succumb to time and wearing out. If it was ready 100% of the time from the moment you get it, then it’s no fun. On that note, I adore Fi, and people who call her terrible are just trolls (no, don’t @ me).
At the very least, the master sword in BotW/TotK is 10,000 years old! Sure, it's magic, but it's been jabbed into ganon's sloppy pig guts at least a few times, and except in OoT, and OG LoZ it's been left outside... alot. When you get OG gannondorf's gloomy juice on it, the magic of the sword has just had enough of our shit.
10.000 years is only time between last calamity and current one, so BoTW mastersword must be way older than that. I would argue that it's at least twice as old, since it seems during the creation of guardians and divine beasts, Zonai were pretty much forgotten.
@@nworder4life we can't really speculate that much, but if it is closer to 100.000 years, we may as well treat this game as soft reboot of the series. 10.000 is roughly time from today to first human attempts at agriculture and any kind of civilization we know of. We as species with very catalogized history have troubles remembering how life was like 3.000 years ago. 100.000 is impossibly massive amount of time to us. And if so, no wonder mastersword keeps breaking down. It is getting too old for this shit.
I don't want to sound bad because I love The Legend of Zelda but in Tears of Kingdom everything felt different I mean, in Mundo N a UA-cam channel uploaded a video of the most powerful beings from Nintendo and among them was Princess Zelda and that It made me question why she didn't defeat Ganodorf if she is so powerful and also her secret stone amplified her powers and made me wonder why the need for the Master Sword? Why her sacrifice? And why the need to imbue her power in an object, in this case in a sword? Don't mind me if this bothers you, it's just internal questions that I have about the Tears of Kingdom game and about Zelda's sacrifice that for the rest of the adventure made me feel a guilt and uselessness that makes me think about those questions and I I know it's just a video game but I still feel those feelings.
No one talks about how the master sword greatest power is the uno reverse You dont choose me, I choose you “Only a hero chosen by the sword itself may wield it”
The thing is Wind Waker - Master Sword should not be the original one from OoT and SS ... the reason at the end of OoT Link is sent back with together with the Master Sword removing him and it from that timeline .... Most likely that Master Sword was crafted by the sages when Ganandorf returned and they needed to fight against him hoping it would call forth a hero again ... which then would explain why the sword was dependent on the Sages for its power.
Well, it probably is the same sword. The power lossin Wind Waker may be due to it being used to sustain the seal on Ganon's power and the entire underwater Hyrule Kingdom
Imo Skyward Sword has the best version of the master sword and imo is underrated af as a game. The fact it’s “polarizing” is ridiculously sad because it’s swordplay/gameplay is it’s best feature imo. Like sure it has some pacing flaws and Fi could get annoying but it has the best level design, combat, puzzles, swordplay, bosses, and dungeons in Zelda. The hate against its linearity or that it’s not open world makes really no sense to me because barely of the other Zelda games are that non linear and even the non linearity hurts Zelda more because of how shallow it is. Like who cares if you can do the water temple first if you are still required to do the water temple anyway! I’m not saying it’s a perfect Zelda game, but imo it’s better than TP, BOTW or even TOTK imo.
One thing that in my opinion more people need to see is that in the japanese version of skyward sword there never was a demon named Demise! It was an unnamed demon who was described as: an bringer of demise that opposed the gods. I think the reason why the english translators wanted to give this demon a name is because of how his curse works: there will always be a demon king to oppose the next incarnation of the hero’s spirit and the goddess! With this setup it becomes clear that Link and Zelda will endlessly reincarnate because there simply are not that many who qualify as the next incarnation of those two titles. However with the number of demons existing within Hyrule Ganon does not have to be the next demon king which is why he was not always the villain in earlier games. The issue lies again with the third aspect of this curse, the demon king not being an reincarnation which goes against how the triforce are 3 parts of a whole and due to the nature of the demon king they are often a prime candidate to inheriting power when the triforce goes to worthy wielders... This also does not explain why Ganon seems to reincarnate so often but with how many other recurring characters this series has we can assume that reincarnation is a benefit everyone has access to in this reality. So in short what the curse really does is not so much causing those 3 to reincarnate over and over but rather it causes a war between good and evil to occur ever so often! Which means that because the fighting never ends Zelda and Link keeps inheriting the hero’s spirit and some aspects of the goddess respectively but it’s also possible that they would had reincarnated with these powers anyways since the three of them are not unique in being reincarnated in this fashion.
"Extraordinary. You stand as a paragon of your kind, human. You fight like no human or demon I have ever known. Though this is not the end. My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again. Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse. An incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind, dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time!" Demise specifically curses Zelda's bloodline and the chosen hero, this means the Zelda we rescue in TotK is a blood descendant of Zelda from Skyward Sword, all Zelda's have been the child of a mortal goddess which is where they get their light power from.
Every time you get the master sword it seems like your told not to rest on its power alone but you must be mentally strong. Which is interesting because it's almost like link whlas resting on his laurels in the beginning and by the end you have to use a more calculated approach. There is alot to dissect if you want to look for a real life lesson about mental and spiritual growth. I wonder if when the master sword gets powered up if it's power is equal to your mental prowess so the smarter link gets through all his puzzle solving the more resilient the sword becomes.
Wait, does Totk retcon the origin of Zelda’s magic? We assume in botw that her light magic came from her being the reincarnation of the goddess, but in totk, it’s hereditarily passed down from Rauru.
Actually her "Light Magic" comes from the _Triforce_ which she carries inside her person with limited use for reasons which have yet been explained as of the ending of Tears of the Kingdom. As shown in this scene: 3:20 Zelda used the omnipotent magic of the Triforce to imbue the shattered Master Sword with Light so that it would regain it's fully powered state.
@@trapadvisor No she's only a _descendant_ as it makes no sense for Hylia to be her own ancestor and i'm pretty sure Hylia is the one that talks through the Goddess Statues asking Link wether he wants to trade Spirit Orbs for either a Heart Container or Stamina bar.
The master sword has been around for probably 100,000 years and it's been killing monsters, multiple gannons, and was nearly destroyed by the Guardians and their lasers. The master sword is definitely durable I mean it lasted for thousands of years without breaking but I think after the Guardians blasted it with lasers and fighting another version of Ganon might have pushed it over the edge. and I think the final nail in the coffin was the original Ganondorf well pretty much snapped it like a twig pretty much the sword just reached its Breaking Point literally after so much battles and being damaged in breath of the Wild I think Ganondorf is the main reason it broke. It literally metaphors that was more powerful than it.
TOTK ending spoilers, just in case: I think both Zelda and Fi are wrong about the importance of the Master Sword in Tears of the Kingdom. Link never needed the sword. It helps a lot with the fight, but he can beat Ganondorf with just about any weapon. What Link actually needed was Zelda, as a dragon, so that he wouldn't get killed when Ganondorf swallowed his stone. If Zelda had not been there, as a dragon, then Ganondorf would have won, Master Sword or not. Her sacrifice was way, way more important beyond just restoring the sword. It's more like restoring the sword was a side benefit rather than the core purpose.
Bathes in Zelda's light juice for 1000's of years still breaks. Also didn't we see the Master Sword get upgraded to the Golden Sword? Why didn't that stick around?
The Master Sword doesn't break after being bathed in Zelda's light for thousands of years. Relative to the Master Sword's perspective, it broke _before_ being bathed in light for thousands of years. At the beginning of TotK, the Master Sword is broken. It then gets sent back to the past, is bathed in sacred light for millennia, gets pulled by Link, and is used to defeat the Demon Dragon.
Okay guys, hear me out: TOTK: The founding of Hyrule, technically the first game of the series. Queen Sonia and King Rauru are married, and they (potentially) have a child, who is this child? Hylia. Lemme put on my tinfoil hat for a minute. So the Zonai are gods, or at least, depicted as gods, with stones that amp one's power. Since Sonia and Rauru are too busy uniting the nations of Hyrule, they can't look after baby Hylia, so they give her to either Mineru (who lets be honest, is just sitting on a chair in the Depths, doing absolutely nothing) or Hylians. The events of the Imprisoning War happens, Zelda turns into a dragon and Mineru commits coma in the Purah Pad. Hylia, being raised by two races, being half hylian and Zonai, is herald as a Messiah and a divine connection between the Gods and the Mortals, and is thus shoved up onto Royalty. Out of the few remaining Tears (Secret Stones) Hylia manifests enough power to bring the Triforce into the mortal realm (Don't ask me the specifics, this is just me trying to make this messed up timeline somewhat comprehensible) Demise is born somehow, my guess is that Ganondorf's seal faltered a tiny bit and released his malice onto the world, not enough to make an impact, but strong enough to make a Phantom of himself: Demise, as the similarities of Stoned Up Ganon and Demise are numerous, and lets not firget that massive scar on Demise' forehead where Ganon's stone would be. Demise continues in his creator's footsteps, to destroy Hyrule and rule over it as King, and maybe turn it into a good place for Demons to reside. Hylia vs Demise happens, but its basically a repeat of what happened to her mother and father. Hylia touches the triforce to wish for Demise to be sealed and for Hyrule to now go into the sky, at the cost of losing her life and godhood, but she is reincarnated into Zelda. Now how can i be so sure that Hylia is Sonia's daughter? I'm bringing out the Tinfoil house for this one: Because Sonia says that she and Zelda share a blood connection in Dragon Tear 2. There'd be NO WAY this could happen because as far as we know, there wasn't a Royal Liniege WITH Zonai blood connection after this. The ONLY WAY Zelda can have a blood connection to Sonia, is that if she HAD A DAUGHTER BEFORE GANONDORF FISTED HER (giggidy) Not only that, but Sonia and SS Zelda LOOK SO FUCKING SIMILAR AS WELL!!! Pull up a picture of the two, take a long, hard stare and come back to me. Now at this point count me as a madman. During the Imprisoning War, the Goddess Sword was given to the Hero depicted in tapestry in Kakariko AND the Ancient Hero's Aspect: Hylia's chosen Champion, a Zonai that she herself, using her remaining Tears, brought down to become her chisen champion, that or a random Zonai was running around and decided he was good at swords one day. The Hero dies, and Hylia sends his soul somewhere to have a chance at reincarnation, which eventually was Link, but after that, The Spirit of the Hero just became a universal force that just picked random 10 year old boys to be it's successor. Anyway, Demise killed the Hero, Hylia want Mano v Mano mode, she sacrificed her life and boom, SS Zelda. And thus Genetics and Bloodlines would prove strong til finally she becomes BOTW and TOTK Zelda. Anyways Demise was turned into a Toe Monster, and was unsealed by Girahim (Play all of The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword for the full story) Demise has gained Hylia's powers from Zelda, and i'm guessing they were amped by her secret stone before she died so Demise is now basically his own thing. He is now a god that dies via Master Sword pinprick, and with the last of Hylia's power places a curse on Link and Zelda, which then means that emise makes HIS own emissary, this time out of his creator's image: OoT, WW and TP Ganondorf, and these Ganons are literally the same person, as he was sealed, not killed, so he was just in permanent stasis until he broke out and finally caused Hyrule to flood, or be casted in eternal twilight. In TP and WW, Demuse's emissary is defeated and that power went back to TOTK Ganondorf, making Calamity Ganon using his resentment, malice and other negative emotions fueled 70-fold by his other incarnations, two if which held the Triforce of power and the other a carbon copy of him at full power... And i guess using Hyuga's remaining energy from link between worlds... To make Calamity Ganon, which got defeated, and eventually boom: True Ganondorf is back baby. Thats my theory of events i now need to sleep in my tinfoil pyjamas and tinfoil bed while drinking water from a tinfoil cup. Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk
So, it's interesting, and odd that the Master Sword would need to be replenished and recharged to be powerful again. I really wonder if the Master Sword from SS is the same in BoTW. I feel it's not the same one. There was a theory that the Master sword in Wind Waker was created by the Hylians in desperation since they had no hero to open the Temple of time to get the original Master sword. We don't know how long did it take for the goddesses to make the choice to flood Hyrule, I feel the Hylians were given enough time to make a sword like the Master sword and power it. Hence why they needed a sage, and probably why Ganondorf knew about this and killed the sages before the flooding of Hyrule. Ok so to get to a point I am making, I feel ToTK and BoTW I think are Skyward sword if the hylians never went to the sky, and Ganondorf took the spot of demise which changed how the Master sword was crafted in this game.
There's a lot wrong with thinking they're not the same sword. Fi still resides in it, and it looks exactly the same as it did in Skyward Sword. The Master Sword has always needed a buff to stand up to its final boss, and in A Link to the Past, it's completely ineffective against Ganon even with the Golden Sword enhancement and Link has to use Silver Arrows to beat him (Silver Arrows are the canonical means of victory he used, according to the official strategy guide).
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All those thousands of years of "restauration" to end up with the same stats of the master sword of breath of the wild inbterm of durability and strength
I am going too start comenting this sort of thing until my quest is done. Fi is pronounced Phai. I know that for certain because I am german and play my games in german. In german words are spoken out in a very straight forword way and her name is actually written out as Phai in the german translation. I don't want too step on anyones toes whit this ,but it bothers me each time I hear her name pronounced diffrently. Phai NOT Fee
I feel as they played it safe with the plot. The execution of the story was kinda underwhelming tbh. I felt like it was kinda lazy to have each acquiring sage scene be essentially the same. As much I really enjoy the gameplay of these last 2 games, I hope Nintendo chooses a different link for the next game and focuses more on the story and lore too 🥲
@@Natsuoboi I can guarantee that if you were to find four veteran soldiers who all participated in the same battle and witnessed it from the same exact perspective, and asked them to retell the most crucial moments of that battle, you'd still get four completely different stories. Because they are different people with different beliefs, different priorities and most importantly, they would all have been hyperfocused on their own actions and what happened to them personally. The way Nintendo handled this was lazy, there is no arguing around that. The sages tell their story the way an observer would. Not like they were actually there, living those moments. It's bad storytelling and nothing else.
@@DerLetzteMonarch I agree wholeheartedly but alas i feel demandading a deep and engaging narrative in a game where you can fool around crafting crazy vehicles Minecraft style is been a bit demanding towards Nintendo who were more focused on giving players a lot of fun things to do than deliver an epic, cinematic experience filled with turns, twists and an emotional rollercoaster. Should the next "big Zelda" take a totally different approach with it's gameplay and storyline then we can all agree than a more engaging and inmersive narrative is very much welcomed for old time Classic Zelda fans.
I suspect the reason for the devs framing the sages' retelling of the Imprisoning War as essentially the same regardless of which sage it is, is because you can theoretically get the sages (save Mineru) in any order. So each sage's cutscene could potentially be the player's first time seeing the story play out. It also explains why Mineru's scene shows more of what happened when you get her--the player would have obtained all of the other sages by that time, and so more of the story could be revealed. Whether or not you consider that to be lazy storytelling is up to you. I also would have liked to see a different perspective from each of the sages but I understand why Nintendo chose not to do it that way.
im missing the Theory here. A. Windwaker is likely a seperate Master Sword created by the sages after Link's defeat (Different blade design) B. other than that you described forging the blade in skyward sword C. Then point out that the last two games have quite literally thrown in our faces that the 'master sword is running low on energy' either mechanically or thru story D.We make comparisons to energy types......when both are called Sacred Power.......And the Deku Tree even straight up states that. So whats the theory? most of this sounds canon already
Zelda's sacrifice (while depressing) feels shorthanded because Nintendo decided to let her be a human again, the impact of her sacrifice would've been even more depressing if they kept her that way making the game ending bittersweet. Now with her gone, would the kingdom have to make do with becoming a different political hierarchy? Or would the 6 races of Hyrule become a Round Table? Governing the land and now have to think of a way to deal with further threats in the future. I really hope we are with Zelda from the get go and don't split up like we have been.
Why does everything have to be depressing and sad, though? Link had to beat a draconified GANON to even have a shot at returning Zelda to normal, and even then, he went into that fight thinking she couldn't be. In fact, it's only at the end when Rauru and Sonia's spirits intervene that we see Zelda returned to normal. Doesn't make her sacrifice any less impactful. She swallowed that stone thinking there would be no going back, and outside of that surprise at the end, it totally was. Also: hasn't Link suffered enough? He lost everything (including himself) during the Calamity. I think losing Zelda, one of the few people alive who understand him and is closest to him, would honestly break him.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 The fact Nintendo said that Totk would be darker than Majora's Mask was a slight understatement, MM definitely had the more depressing notes compared to this game.
@@rockowlgamer631 at the same time i kinda wish she did stay a dragon , but on the second hand it would have broke me and i would have be extremly sad for link , dude wasn't given a rest , he already lost so many loved people and lost one time , i think its more a story of hope , than despair here , botw was definitly darker because we learn link and zelda just kinda lost. so tbh i would have been fine with both ending but i like when it happi , i need some happi in my life sometime.
@@justsomeone7961 I think the problem I'm having is the whole part of "sacrifice" then undoing that said thing. Like for example Emmeryn from Fire Emblem Awakening, she had to make the tough decision of suicide to prevent Chrom from handing over the Fire Emblem to the mad king Gangrel, and after doing so her sacrifice was even felt among the enemy nation that the enemy soldiers decided to throw down their weapons. The emotional impact that it left was very touching and a bit depressing, however a xenologue pops up later and shows a living Emmeryn with no memory in the game which you can recruit which just ruins the emotional sacrifice she did earlier in the game. That's my problem with reverting the sacrifice Zelda does, granted it would've sucked but I feel like it would've made us appreciate her sacrifice more, besides I'm sure Purah and maybe even Mineru would've joined together to figure out a solution while Link either keeps watch over the Light Dragon or joins in on the research since now he's left without help. Besides he has friends across the other races from Sidon to Riju.
@@rockowlgamer631 The Legend of Zelda isn't Fire Emblem though the narrative is very explicit on what it's trying to achieve which is usually providing a "fairytale" storyline which involves overcoming a series of challenges and adversities with heroes who're _always_ meant to be rewarded with a "...and they lived happily ever" after experiencing said adversity as part of a _formula_ which Nintendo has relied upon since the original The Legend of Zelda on the NES making it impossible for any such "subversions" to take place as it would break the formula of the franchise and how Nintendo designs this games in the first place. Nintendo doesn't do "trilogies" with the Zelda timeline and so wether you think it would have been far "better" had she stayed a dragon ultimately it's clear that to Nintendo following their narrative formula is far more important than simply attempting to be "edgy" with such bittersweet approach to storytelling.
Remember when the sword was actually important? When it was required to use to defeat Ganondorf? I feel like we're taking steps BACK when the master sword, in both games it doesn't actually feel like it's important, especially gameplay wise, it still breaks, and you can defeat the final boss without it, it's honestly quite insulting how the BLADE OF EVILS BANE (sword that seals the darkness sounds like a 4 year old came up with it) is now reduced to constantly being sidelined, TotK should've been about the master sword, and how YOU the player restore it overtime with the tears, but no you just give to Zelda, comeplete 20 shrines and you can go get the sword
That is the unfortunate side effect of open world. If you want truly open world, something that a lot of fans were begging for, and what now feels integral to the game series, you have to give all required tools to beat the game in tutorial, making anything more just optional. So unless you want to get master sword in first hour of the game, I don't see how we could make it into what it used to be
@@nworder4life I've been saying that about Pokémon games for years now, but apparently people need to have open world and ability to choose gyms in that game. And although I agree that linear storytelling is the most solid and easiest to write, I feel like after open world of BotW/TotK we cannot go back anymore. Open world is a gimmick that works great when it works, but when it doesn't, you get legendary sword that's best used to chop down trees
Well there's always the chance for a "Trial of the Sword" DLC in Tears of the Kingdom which could reward the player with a fully unbreakable Master Sword as a surprise to end the Era of the Wild in a surprisingly fun way.
Im so fucking confused now….so this game is apparently not a sequel but an alternate universe? But also this Zelda is a sage and no longer has the divinity of goddess Hylia. Yeah. Someone please elaborate. Cuz I’m not even sure I’m understanding. Let alone discussing or trying to understand the sword.
She can be a Sage and of divine bloodline. Exact same thing in OOT. Zelda inherits her time powers by being of hylia’s bloodline. As Hylia was a goddess of time.
Both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are a _soft reboot_ of the Zelda timeline taking place thousands of years after the "Era of Myth" (the 3 timelines) mentioned in the book "Creating a Champion" in a NEW KINGDOM of Hyrule founded by Rauru and Sonia and with a _reincarnation_ of Ganondorf similar to the one from Four Swords Adventures. The Zelda seen in this 2 games is also a descendant of the same Hylia from Skyward Sword as are all her predecessors from across the Era of Myth as confirmed by her having Hylia's divine powers and the ability to "talk" to the very same Master Sword which her ancestor first forged into the Goddess Sword. In summary: The Era of the Wild is a _soft reboot_ thousands of years in the future of a new Hyrule with no timesplits, no alternate universe and no retcons whatsoever.
Another interesting thought, regarding the possibility that tears of the kingdom leads back into skyward sword. Because Zelda did what she did to restore and empower The Master Sword, that could mean that the spirit of the sword itself might have gone through a sort of factory reset of sorts resulting in an effective loop.
No loop whatsoever Zelda didn't travel to the foundation of the literal _first_ kingdom of Hyrule from before The Minish Cap but a NEW Hyrule formed AFTER the _Era of Myth_ described in the book "Creating a Champion" which explains the Era of the Wild's placement in the timeline. The Ganondorf who appears in the memories is a _reincarnation_ similar to the one from Four Swords Adventures which is why he has no knowledge of the Triforce and anything related to the Golden Goddesses and the Sacred Realm where it was left hidden around this time in the Unified Timeline.
¿Isn't the "Dragon Break" theory just a simple "unification" of the timelines like it happens in Skyrim i believe? If yes that's pretty much confirmed as of the official timeline shown in the book "Creating a Champion".
@javiervasquez625 yea but do to time travel and tears it makes sense as to why we see hints of all time lines kuz the place zelda goin back b4 skyward sword events happened
The way I see it. Spoilers ahead so dont read if you dont want them.. The master sword is already proven to have unlimited potential. However it has to be bathed in sacred power. The catch all is, its as powerful as the source of this sacred power. The great Deku tree's area has sacred power and can only do so much. This means the sword only repaired itself over the hundred years with what was in the forest. It wasnt strong enough for Ganondorf. With that said when Zelda did what she did to become the dragon, the secret stones not only amplify their power but when consumed it turns them into an eternal dragon. Which is in this lore extremely powerful. So with the power of the sacred light dragon and 10,000 or so years of bathing for the sword. It became more than ample to destroy ganon and handle his power. Which also begs to reason if someone more powerful showed it would probably be a problem for the sword. Based on the lore the sword is as powerful as its source of sacred power. Which also stands to reason this power diminishes over time. Thats shown in TOTK cutscene when they got the sword again from the deku tree as he explains how the sword actually works with its power.
Out of pure curiosity when we speak of "Sacred Power" are we talking the _Triforce_ inside Zelda's body? As that's the only "Sacred Power" i can think of that would be able to replicated the 3 Sacred Flames's power to empower the Master Sword into it's most powerful state. Seeing as the omnipotent Triforce is very much the only thing capable of reforging the Master Sword to it's clearly the only way in which it could have happened.
@@javiervasquez625 King Rauru's power was "Sacred Power". Which was basically the light that defeats evil and such. The power zelda wields is inheritance from Rauru and Sonia according to TOTK lore and cutscenes
@@fahlur I see... well i got news for you: Zelda's "magic powers" have nothing to do with her ancestry dating back to the first king and queen of New Hyrule but rather her carrying the one true Triforce created by the Golden Goddesses lying hidden within her own person as the so called "Sealing Power" as shown in this scene: 3:20 Secret Stone's magic
@@javiervasquez625 while I like the theory, you have to also note that the sacred power from rauru and the time power from sonia would be blood line. However the triforce was also hidden within the royal family as well. That in zelda games history was used to seal the "calamity" over and over. That was shown. but this game also noted on blood line quite a bit. Why cant it be a combo of both? the secret stone also only amplifies their power, it doesnt give them their power.
I understand the comparison between the restoration with the Master Sword for Wind Waker and BOTW/TOTK but the thing the sword that is in Wind Waker is not the same sword from Skyward Sword and likely BOTW/TOTK depending on where these games are placed on the timeline. Simply because when The Hero of Time left the adult timeline it took the spirit of the hero and The Master Sword back to the Child Timeline. Its why Wind Waker Link is not related to the previous Links nor does he have the Spirit of the Hero but more so made his own since he earned it but the sword that he wields is not the same it a Replica.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 Then how do you explain the existence of the sword if Links takes it back to his timeline. Also, the blade looks completely different and I understand different art styles but still is different. The blade's power is dormant but every other master sword shown in the series never is in that state besides Skyward Sword before it gained the blessing of Hylia. Also, a line is said by Ganondorf to Link after attacking him with the sword "Go back to the world below, and tell that to the pathetic fools who made this blade!" Indicating that this sword was crafted as a replacement for the original one that no longer exists as it went back to its original time which makes sense why there is no Spirit of the Hero along with that no Blade of Evils Bane.
@@Pelios_ Good point but I think Ganondorf was referencing the story that sword was made by the sages themselves as Ganondorf seemed to knowledgeable in Oot of who had the spiritual stones so he had to know a possible history of the creation of the master sword.
@@sykune I would think it would be very unlikely that he would know the true history of the blade because everyone refers the blade as the one that Hero of Time wielded instead of the Original Hero or some other title since you know Skyward Sword didn't exist at the time but just the state of the sword and the dialogue its more than likely the sword is just a replica due to the timeline split
You are also wrong about the master sword in wind Waker. That master sword was a fake master sword well more a Hylian sage made attempted copy of it. The wind Waker takes place in the 3rd time line. When Zelda sent Adult Link back to the past to live his life. He took the Master sword with him. This is why when Gannon appears a century later no hero of time came and there was no master sword for someone to take up against said Threat. The sages attempted to make a master sword using their power and succeeded but with no hero they were forced to do the events that lead to the flooding. This is why the master sword in Wind Waker is so weak. It is not a sword of evils bane. Merely. A mortal copy
It is said from Fi herself in Skyward Sword that after going dormant in the Master Sword that she would be unable to have a physical form. So she cannot show herself to anyone.
I'm still hopeful that through the magic of the Triforce Zelda will be able to manifest a physical body for Fi's spirit to inhabit so that she may once again become an active companion for her Master... 😢
@@javiervasquez625impossible considering the goddess made her to lead the hero of the sky’s and he completed his mission she is still in the sword and speaks to link and zelda all the time we just can’t understand it she literally tells zelda link is safe in TOTK through the noises it makes
@@ExoticEio The Triforce has _omnipotent_ power and can grant ANY wish the user desires so it's extremely possible for Zelda to make such a wish as long as she's aware she carries the Triforce within her person (which she currently does not).
@@javiervasquez625 true I forgot she didn’t even have the piece of wisdom and link didn’t even get the piece of courage I wonder where the triforce is I never even thought about it
@@ExoticEio As i just said above: Zelda HAS IT _within_ her as shown here: 3:20 It was the Triforce's magic which reforged the Master Sword back to it's fully powered state.
The scene where Zelda calls the sword "she" went completely unnoticed by me and surely more people, because in Spanish normally swords are referred to as "she" "la espada" and not "el espada" lol
Oh that’s interesting
Yeah and the fact she keeps telling link his batteries are running low and zelda is the only one who knows
Same, I speak Portuguese and the rule is the same, so even on English I often use he and she when referring to items, rather than it. It completely slipped my mind that Zelda's "she" was on reference to Fi, because she the sword makes complete sense to me. (¯ヮ¯٥)
But thats only in some versions because they don't have a gender neutral way of referring to something. The Japanese version does not use 'she'
The Dutch subtitles (because they didn't make a Dutch dub) refuse to call the sword 'zij' which translates to 'she' and insists on using 'het' which translates to 'it'.
3:21 She's not just been *recovering* her power. She's been accumulating more, all that time in the presence of the Light Dragon.
yet it still breaks lmao
@@Spartan1312 for gameplay purposes. Though the game contextualises it as "running out of energy"
@@TheTurnipKing So a brand new and re-forged holy weapon "runs out of energy" lmao dumbest mechanic ever, its quite clear Aonuma was bored with Zelda with botw and wanted a different game for creative freedom reasons. I assume its the Big Whigs that forced him to use Zelda for the marketing and IP reasons. In return he butchers the lore, timeline, and tries to divorce himself from anything that might get in the way of creative freedom and now we have a new master sword that still needs batteries lmao.
@@Spartan1312 supposedly when the Sword is bathed in Sacred power the Base strength of the sword grows and the Sword has a charge for the "Glint" where the power can be emitted at a distance. (In the older games this included throwing energy blades at a distance when you were at full health, I assume that Link was taking the power burden of throwing those? He could power magic in those games without stress)
So lets say the Swords base damage to "Evil" was 100 and the base physical damage was 100 and the glint emits the Anti Evil damage at 500% (600 total). Then when it was bathed in holy flames each added base of both at 25 leaving the swords base damage at 175 and 175 or when the glint is active 875 and 175 (1050 total). Between games the sword recovers then gains power when bathed in Sacred power for a period of time (first going to repair durability loss and recharge before going into the permanent damage) and we have a time frame for the repair but no noticeable growth, 100 years.
Durability loss seems to increase and the battery capacity seems to decrease each time the Sword hits Gloom or other corruption and the Sword doesn't seem to recover those stats when it is repairing or improving. All of this implies that the Sword will keep improving damage and losing defense as encounters with Demise keep happening, enough encounters and Demise's whole goal in fighting Link will be "Break the Sword before I get hit as it'll one shot me but is fragile"
@Spartan1312 it doesn't run out of energy at all against Ganondorf and his phantoms, which the same can't be said against Guardians, Calamity Ganon, or even post-Trial of the Sword in BOTW. It would quite literally invalidate the entire weapon sandbox if it never ran out of energy after acquiring it.
When Rauru imprisoned Ganondorf underneath Hyrule castle, Ganondorf's power began to slowly build back up and return to him. Rauru's magic-draining hold over him was only temporary. So by the time we got to BotW, Ganon had regained enough energy back to be able to 'remote control' Divine beasts and Guardians and his malice was spreading across the land. Weapons also broke for the first time in any Zelda game - they had a bit of durability but they were weakened compared to previous Zelda games. Malice was harmful to the touch but people who came into contact with it could still use regular foods and elixirs to recover from it. And although Link and Zelda were victorious in defeating Calamity Ganon, they did not destroy the source that puppet's energy, still hidden underneath the castle.
So by the time we reached TotK, Ganon's power had grown even more potent. Malice was amplified into Gloom and Gloom prevents people who come into contact with from being able to heal themselves (unless they are lucky enough to find a cure made from Sundelions). And immediately when the upheaval began, all weapons became decayed (even worse than their brittle form in BotW). Ganon had never been able to destroy the Master Sword previously or even other weapons across the land in such a way. So what changed that? The Secret Stone he stole. It was slowly amplifying his regular power over the years. It's natural for the Master Sword's energy to wane but Ganon was only able to shatter it with the help of his Secret Stone.
In the next Zelda sequel if Ganon re-incarnates into a new body again, he will not have that stone so maybe we won't see breakable weapons next time around. Maybe we'll see a race between new Ganondorf and Link's descendant to acquire Triforce pieces, since that relic was absent in both recent games.
If they continue the breath of the wild/ tears of the kingdom style of game play, i hope we get one of the other kingdoms like Termina, Holdrum, Labrynna or even we could go check on new hyrule just for fun.
nintendo needs to hire you
I just kinda wish they'd leave Ganon alone and do a new bad guy eg Sephiroth/Kefka.
I'm with you but Ganondorf blew up
Yeah exactly, I think one important thing to note is that when ganondorf is sealed, he’s specifically in his demon king form, he retains this form throughout all time until the beginning of TotK. So despite his power weakening and very slowly becoming stronger, he remains in his “powered up state” I think if he were to have been sealed as just ganondorf, he wouldn’t have been able to break the sword
There is a theory that the secret stones are pieces of the triforce broken up. If true, then it would explain how the gloom would be able to break the sword.
I subscribe to this theory
It would make sense in a way, we’ve never seen such a powerful item before that seem to just Amp people ability the only time we’ve seen this is with Ganon Triforce of Power in OoT.
And without a clear look at a Triforce in the game at all, it could be ether 1. It was lost somewhere or somewhere down the line destroyed and lost to time.
Or as you said pieces up into the stones.
A stupid theory
@@HeyhoBrando can't be destroyed we seen the results of the triforce being destroyed and it ain't pretty.
@@heroofmasks dude there are multiple games where you collect triforce shards. And the world is fine.
I think something many people have forgotten or not realized is that the Master Sword was never designed to last. In the very beginning of the timeline, Hylia created the Goddess Sword and left the three Scared Flames so the weapon could reach its full potential as the Master Sword. All of that was done so Link could defeat Demise.
It was never intended to be used beyond that event in time.
Given that the Master Sword was forged by Hylia (a goddess) and bathed in the power of the three Golden Goddesses, it is completely understandable that it would be extremely powerful and durable. But the intention was for it to be used once. That was why Fi fell into a slumber at the end of Skyward Sword. Her purpose, and the sword's, were fulfilled.
Hylia never intended for Demise to cast his curse on Zelda and Link and create an endless cycle of war between good and evil. That was an oversight that none of them could have anticipated.
When Demise's incarnations rose up in the future, the Master Sword was seen as the best and greatest weapon to oppose them. And the events just kept repeating over and over again, with the Master Sword's power weakening each and every time it was wielded.
In BOTW, Zelda recalls how Link, the Soul of the Hero, has been skyward bound, adrift in time, and stepped into the glowing embers of twilight. In this time period, those events are stories of legend and myth. It is so far into the future that the Master Sword is reaching its limits. Why do you think it was able to become damaged and shatter so easily? Sure it was because of Ganon's power, but it is also because the weapon is so weak.
The Master Sword can restore itself, but only because it was designed to incase Demise was too strong. After that, it was never to be used again. Until Demise placed his curse.
This is all theory, but I think this is the truth behind the sword. Great video, BTW. Can't wait for the next one! 😊
Nice theory, I think that is the case too. But what if the Master Sword was at its full power like at skyward sword during the time of TOTK
@@j-fizgamevids9408 The Master Sword technically wouldn't be at full power, just recharged. At the end of Breath of the Wild, Zelda's sealing power dwindled because it was used constantly for 100 years without pause. The Master Sword is similar, except that there were periods of time between uses, allowing it the opportunity to recharge itself and restore itself. But at some point, the sword will either truly shatter beyond repair or will become depleted of its power. Even a weapon of the goddesses is not infinite, as seen with Zelda's sealing power.
If the Master Sword was at full power during Tears of the Kingdom, it never would have shattered. Link would have been able to defeat Ganondorf easily right then and there with a fully powered sword.
And thanks to the _Triforce_ dwelling *inside* Zelda was able to reforge/recharge the sword with it's _omnipotent_ Light so that the Hero may continue to wield the Blade of Evil's Bane into the future of the timeline.
@@nickmanus Zelda's "Sealing Power" is the _Triforce_ which i assure you is NOT "limited" as it is the combined *omnipotent* essences of the 3 Golden Goddesses who created the Zelda universe and as proven in A Link to the Past, Skyward Sword and A Link between Worlds it's power cannot be "depleted" no matter how much one uses it's divine magic to fulfill EVERY WISH the user desires. The reason why the current Zelda is unnable to fully tap into the Triforce's magic is a matter of discussion among the fandom as no solid explanation has been given by Nintendo as of the ending of Tears of the Kingdom which suggests there's still a lot we are yet told about the true nature behind her "Sealing Power" which will be addressed eventually in a future DLC or sequel to fully wrap up all loose ends and cliffhangers left at the end of the main storyline.
Just to make it clear: Zelda's "Sealing Magic" has not "run out" after using it for 100/10.000+ years as the Triforce ,by _default,_ CANNOT run out given it's direct connection to the omnipotent Golden Goddesses and it's very purpose in maintaining balance in the world as shown in A Link between Worlds with the near destruction of Lorule due to their Triforce no longer existing. Wathever reason there is for Zelda's limited control over the Triforce know that Nintendo has yet given us an explanation meaning we have no choice but to wait for a future DLC/sequel in order to address said plotline.
The way I see it. The sword was planned to deal with demise and potential other future evils. However with proof of lore. The sword according to the great deku tree is as powerful as the source of Sacred Power and will grow stronger while bathed in it. Which means the entire time the sword diminished over time which proved that the sword was running on fumes. If you really think about it thats the only thing that makes sense. Over thousands of years the only sacred power it was bathed in was in the forest where would be only so much IF ANY. This stands to reason it never bathed in sacred power for thousands of years. Which would prove the swords diminish if this is true. Thats why what happened happened. So the only way was through Zelda's chosen method to fix it and bring it back to its true power again. With that said according to the Great Deku tree the sword has potentially NO LIMITS to its power. Its limitation is that of the source of sacred power its bathed in. So an ... heh Eternal Light Dragon of Sacred Power would be quite powerful. More powerful than zelda fully realized of her strength I might add to that.
I think that the Master Sword can never be truly destroyed. We've never seen the hilt harmed, and Breath of the Wild introduced the idea of it not working, but I would prefer to believe that that's more gameplay than lore, as is a lot of the weapons breaking. In Tears of the Kingdom, although the blade is broken, it still endures, even though Link's whole arm was covered and it could have touched all of it, the hilt was not tarnished at all, nor was anything under the triforce symbol on the blade (which arguably references it being bathed in the sacred flames of the goddesses. I think that because of it being empowered by the creators of the world, it can't be truly destroyed, only damaged, and when Zelda repairs it or the sages bless it, it's more like its figurative battery being charged, as it's reminded of its divine purpose and reconnected to the goddess Hylia and can draw from her power to defeat evil. In fact, it's like a more high-level version of how it acts in Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, it will return eventually. Clearly, it gets some of this charge from its spot in Korok forest, but I think that it's only broken in Tears of the Kingdom because it's taken a lot of abuse and hasn't had much time to recharge, and also hasn't had as direct a source of power. My reason for believing this is because it actually stands up to gloom that fully destroys one of Link's heart containers just fine when you use it to fight Ganon, and can even redirect his gloom attacks, purifying them into light attacks that damage him.
Funfact: In case you haven't noticed Zelda was able to reforge by using the _Triforce_ which she carries within her body as shown in this scene 3:20 Notice the Light coming out of her _right hand_ just like when she unleashed her "Sealing Power" to obliterate Calamity Ganon once and for all. Zelda used the combined omnipotent power of the 3 Golden Goddesses to empower the shattered Master Sword back to it's fully powered state.
Nice theory, but just something tiny, I always thought that the spirit of the Master Sword's name was pronounced differently. The Japanese spelling of Fi's name is ファイ, the romanization of which is fai. Therefore, the English pronunciation would be faɪ (English IPA), as in rhyming with the word "my." (taken from gaming stack exchange)
Master, the batteries in your wii remote are nearly depleted.
Back when Skyward Sword HD was coming out I do remember the way Fi is pronounced being confirmed, and it is the way you’re saying it.
English vowel rotation. /iː/ at some point mutated into /aj/. Fi is directly named after the Greek letter Φ/φ, whose name in English is usually pronounced as /faj/ because of the aforementioned rotation, but in most languages, and sometimes in English, it's pronounced closer to /fiː/ (close to English "fee").
It's somewhat interesting that the Katakana used would be the English rotated form rather than more traditional one.
Searching Google for the pronunciation, several sites mention that in the game Hyrule Warriors from Nintendo, Fi's name is spoken and pronounced "Fai" or "Figh", not "Fee". So to me, I'm good with that.
In Spanish her name is spelled Fay, which rhymes with my
The sword has always needed to rest and recharge after peace is returned to Hyrule. That's why it is always put back after Link is done (except Wind Waker where it was left lodged in Ganondorf's skull).
I guess if you think about the Master sword as a divine relic, then it would make sense (at least to me) that over time, the less people that still believe in and directly pray to the Goddesses that were directly involved in its creation- the less potent that power becomes as time goes on. In the BotW/TotK time period we've reached so far in the future that the only divine diety that anyone truly prays to is Hylia herself. And while she has a lot of specific powers and holy energy, it was not her power alone that created the master sword. She was the creator of the Goddess blade and Fi; the basic foundation of the master sword itself, and the least powerful form that lacked the holy energy to purge pure evil. It took all three of the Golden Goddesse's very essence to purify and transform the Goddess blade into the master sword, and then Hylia herselfs blessing to fully awaken it into the blade with the power to purge evil.
So in my opinion and theorizing head, I believe that as the entirety of Hyrule eventually moved on from the worship of the three Golden Goddesses to specifically only Hylia herself or regional deities that probably originate from historical events (like the Gerudo women), the blade has been perpetually losing its inherit power to counter act evil- because no one has been praying for the Golden goddesses protection to uphold their contributions to the blade. That could explain why in Wind waker the master sword is all but useless on Evil beings without the two sages of wind and Earth eternally praying to the heavens for the blade to maintain its power. The blade itself essentially reverted to a dormant state reminiscing of the unawakened master sword from SS- including retracting it's hilts fins inward, and blackening the golden gem. But in Wind waker the one thing the sword could still do despite it's evil repelling power being gone was to manipulate time and seal away most of Ganon's powers while in its pedestal. The power of time belonging to Hylia, and potentially linkable to her ability to seal Demise temporarily.
That's an interesting theory worth considering but i should point out that as shown in this scene right: 3:20 as long as you have the _full Triforce_ in your possession you can use the _omnipotent_ power of the 3 Golden Goddesses to reforge and "recharge" to it's full power just as it was when Link first imbued the Goddess Sword with the 3 Sacred Flames to transform it into the Master Sword. Since this Zelda is most definetly in possession of the full Triforce all it took was for her to empower it with the goddesses's Light so it would regain it's full power once more.
My theory on how the sword broke centers on its title, “the sword that seals the darkness” over the years, the sword has sealed darkness within itself, and i think Ganondorf used it to break it from the inside out
Technically we see it do this in Skyward Sword after defeating Demise he is sealed within the sword itself.
it is ironic that the white sword of the picori (which became the white sword after being reforged by the picori) and the white sword of the goddess that would later become the mastersword.
In minish cap's story a light force is also mentioned. it's possible we got the origin wrong too, the white sword from the minish cap and the white sword of the goddess might be the same or at least related.
Hylia is the goddess of time so who knows what the concept of time actually is.
In Skyward Sword, the power of Hylia, thereby the other 3 Goddesses, is officially titled as the Light Force, which is what empowers the Master Sword into the "True Master Sword."
So, the sealing power of the Hylian Royal Family is called the Light Force from there after.
Why it takes the form on the back of Zelda's hand as the Triforce in both BotW and this game are still unknown.
@@Zac_Frost Because it IS the _full Triforce_ as it's omnipotent power carrying the combined essences of the 3 Golden Goddesses is the only way in which Zelda is able to reforge the very same blade once forged with the 3 flames of the goddesses. It was also the omnipotent Triforce which allowed Zelda to regain her human self at the end of the game despite what Mineru said regarding the transformation been _irreversible_ without some omnipotent magic to counter the secret stone she swallowed. The only mystery now is figuring out why is the full Triforce hidden within Zelda, _who_ put it inside her and why is it she has such a limited use of it when back in Skyward Sword, A Link to the Past and A Link between Worlds it could be used to it's full extent.
The triforce had nothing to do with Zelda being returned back to her human form. Mineru even says that Rauru and Sonia, with their powers over light and time, had to have channeled their power through Link to pull that off, and that's exactly what we see
@@alexmulder1145 I somehow never claimed that the triforce had anything to do with that.
@@alexmulder1145 And yet you can _Light_ coming from Zelda's *body* when she's transforming back just as when she used it to reforge the Master Sword as shown during the last flashback. It was the combined power of Light (the Triforce) and Time which undid Zelda's draconification.
Oh btw Zelda is using the triforce in memory #18 just look carefully at her right hand. Whenever sacred power is mentioned it specifically refers to her triforce power.
Yep. You even see the full Triforce on the back of her hand, pouring Light into it in the cutscene.
Finally someone who noticed! :) The Triforce was also the reason why Silent Princesses appeared in the area where Link sees the final memory as a direct result of Zelda _creating_ them ex nihilo with the Triforce's omnipotent magic. It was also what transformed her back to her human self at the end of the game despite Mineru telling her that the effects of swallowing a secret Stone where _irreversible._ This prooves that the combined essence of the 3 goddesses is MORE powerful than the magic of the secret Stones.
Supposedly there is also sacred power in its pedestal in the Kokiri forest and in the other games it's prayers or Hylia's power which strenghtens it, so it's not only the power of the Triforce, it's the power of Gods. The Triforce is definitely a big source of sacred power but it's not the only one
@@javiervasquez625 It's *probably* more complicated than that. Zelda becomes a dragon in truth, but the memories you collect as part of the Geoglyph quest probably represent the parts of her she has to shed in order to become a Dragon.
She has to be a Dragon in truth in order to get back to the present day. Even if she could somehow "leap" back with her time powers, she can't because her sacrifice is necessary to repair and empower the Master Sword, and becoming the Dragon is the only way to both increase her Light Power and guard/restore the blade.
So, she loses herself but Ruaru/Link gather the memories she secreted, and when restored to herself, she should no longer remember the time when she was the Light Dragon.
She didn't do it as a selfish act to obtain eternal life, but a pure act, in the earnest hope Link would be able to restore her. Truly, The Legend of Zelda.
@@TheTurnipKing ¿What is *complicated* about the *omnipotent* power of the combined Triforce? All i'm saying is that Zelda used the Triforce to transform herself back into a human again after Link defeated Ganondorf. Wether her transformation into a dragon is more "complicated" than that says nothing in regards to the Triforce's magic been able to undoe draconification after swallowing a Secret Stone.
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If they add a master sword trial and I really hope they do I hope they do something with the other dragons involving their past using their power to restore it to an even greater strength that it in BOTW.
That is a really cool suggestion. Hope Nintendo are listening :)
4:19 that pronunciation of chasm caught me really off guard. Chasm is pronounced kăz′əm (KAZ-em).
edited it out, sorry if it bothered you.
@@sarialueDon’t feel too bad about mispronouncing things. Honestly, I always think it’s just an indicator that someone might read more than they watch or listen to media, but I don’t know. Also, I think it’s funny, and now I want to call them that. 😂
I too would have mispronounced it, and I'm a native English speaker. I just don't hear that word often.
Best version of the master sword is the one that can be upgraded twice in a link to the past
If only there was a cursed fat Great Fairy in the current Hyrule then she could bless it so that it would become the awesome Golden Sword.
Gloom and Malive seem to be some sort of Acid-Like substances (more extreme present in Gloom since it is shown that it can permamently cause damage on Link's Body like how much his arm got decomposed.)
Meaning while the Master Sword can repell Evil causing it to not become a cursed weapon, it is not immune to physics, meaning while The "Evil Part" gets repelled the "Acid Part" of the Gloom and Malice remain.
And I would say in conclusion the thing that actually makes Ganondorf as dangerous as the A Link to the Past Ganon, who had the full Triforce yet couldnt free himself without using the sages descendants, is Because he seems to have done some Studies in Chemistry
Gloom seem like acts as a manifestation of entropy. As it seems cause chaos or discord in molucules of things which causes them to break down, this would make sense for link as well as entropy eventually leads to death when it comes to cells.
the Triforce was stated to be growing weaker over time in the official strategy guide for A Link to the Past, so that Ganondorf being the strongest is a misconception. According to those same official guides, he was also defeated by Silver Arrows rather than the Master Sword.
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As far as I am aware the Triforce itself wasnt growing weaker (this wouldnt make any sense Because it was later even able of creating a second Triforce for Lorule), instead the reason why a potentially Allmighty Ganon lost in there is Because the Master Sword - as stated in the A Link to the Past Manual - can resist any evil including Evil that wields the Triforce, That's why Ganondorf cannot simply Thanos Snap him, it is mostly unexplained why the Triforce doesnt work again as it should, it seems like a major plothole to me.
And the Silver Arrows do not even damage him at all without the Master Sword, you need to use the Master Sword to damage him, but it can only harm him if you use spin attacks or if you upgraded it into the Golden Sword.
The way you put this actually gave credit to a timeline theory I watched recently which posited that the Zonai may have become the Picori. Since Rauru holds the power of the light force in him, it's possible other Zonai do as well.
The Picori were said to have descended from the skies as well, and we've only ever seen them in Minish Cap. So it could possible they're related in some way
Except Rauru had a Rito sage with him, and the Rito didn't exist for quite a long time after the events of OoT. My bet is the flashbacks with Rauru and Sonia take place during the massive time jump between TAoL/TP/ST and BotW
@@alexmulder1145 I actually kind of subscribe to the idea that the Rito could have been around at least since OoT, just not involved in the events of the game and outside of the playable map. When you look at their culture in BotW and TotK, they are fairly self-sufficient and seemingly the most removed from the rest of Hyrule (apart from the Gerudo), which makes sense as the Goron mines and Zora River would be important resources to Hyrule Kingdom, but the Rito don't have anything like that to offer. I've always suspected that the Hyrulian Civil War of pre-OoT is when the King of Hyrule became the 'sworn-brother' of Darunia and that the mines and smiths of Death Mountain would have been where Hyrule sourced its weapons and armor during the war. This could also help to explain the presence of Dodongos Cavern as a dungeon in OoT, not only as a food source for the gorons, but a means by Ganondorf to prevent that kind of trade and alliance should his plan of false fealty to Hyrule's King fail. Anyway, that's all to say that the Rito could be around and while the Hyrule Historia does confirm that the Rito evolved from the Zora in Wind Waker, there's always that niggly thing of "This is the information as we know it now, but as our understanding of the series evolves, so does its history." It has always been the most controversial thing about Wind Waker, something that can be hand waved away but always raises questions. The koroks 'evolving' from the Kokiri doesn't carry the same problem as, being 'forest fairies', their magical, fantastical, nature feels self-evident. Plus, I have my own little theory that the Koroks are not an evolution but the true form of the Kokiri, with their fairies in OoT masking them to appear closer to Hylian children so that Link could be raised in their society before the events of OoT. We've seen the Rito and Zora sharing Hyrule now, so it's not out of the question if we apply the same logic backwards to Wind Waker. Sure, we don't see the Zora, but in Twilight Princess there was a sense of secretiveness about their society. In fact, even in OoT, their home isn't accessible to Hylians outside the royal bloodline (or at least anyone who knows Zelda's Lullaby).
All that said, I don't necessarily subscribe to the particular theory I commented here earlier, but it's fun to speculate. I personally don't think anyone has hit the nail on the head yet and it may yet take time. There's still some interesting speculation to be made about details like Ganondorf as the Demon King raising his army with the backdrop of what appears to be the 'Breach of Demise' location between Central Hyrule and the Hebra Region, for example. Could this imply that Ganondorf came to be known as Demise in legends between Rauru's era and the current time of TotK? In the japanese version of Skyward Sword, Demise is known as the 'Bringer of Demise'. So perhaps it evolved from the Demon King to Demise and later 'The (bringer of) Calamity', leading to 'Calamity Ganon'. All speculation, of course, and I've gotten sidetracked again, but while I'm on the topic, I do think it would be interesting to speculate on how far apart each memory is. I suspect Zelda was in that time for quite a while when putting the memories together with events told from the translated monuments, implying the war lasted quite some time, and given that we don't see the slow build up of Phantom Zelda/Ganon trying to gain Sonia's trust before Ganondorf steps in to take Sonia's secret stone. To me, there is an implied gap between that memory and the next with the raising of the demon armies.
My best guess/theory with what we know so far, without really having fleshed out the details, is that Rauru's time is set before Skyward Sword (despite the founding of Hyrule, I know, I know), but I'm really taken with this idea I had that Zelda could have been a stand in for or misconstrued through legend as the Goddess Hylia, having helped Mineru raise the sky islands and create a cloud barrier. Mineru's spirit powers are reminiscent of Fi as the spirit of the Goddess Sword, and Zelda demonstrates greater power than Sonia when aiding Rauru to destroy the Moldugas. The Third eye motif on Rauru and Mineru are likely what inspired the Sheikah Symbol, so again the idea that Zelda was viewed as a goddess and the successors to the Zonai, the Sheikah, swear themselves to Hylia. And although Zelda takes on an immortal form, opposite to Hylia taking on a mortal form, there's a beautiful kind of parallel/mirroring symmetry there I like. Plus some sources do state that there was a Hyrule before the ascention into the sky. The other problem I'm all too aware of is Ganondorf coming before/being Demise which I know people hate, myself somewhat included, except to point out that the wording of Demise's curse could actually imply that he didn't set it in motion, but rather that, being a conqueror of time (let's not forget Ganondorf stole Sonia, the Sage of Time's, secret stone, hm?), he perceives that due to the actions of Hylia (or Zelda, or more technically Rauru, in this theory), they are forever bound in said cycle. Another thought I just had is the fact that the Skyloftians (just wanna put it out there that TotK neither says nor doesn't say that anyone went up with the sky islands) have the tradition of the sailcloth, which influenced the idea of the paraglider but in my realm of speculation could be seen as Zelda's stories of her and link being passed as Tradition as the world waits for the right Link/Hero. Also, Mineru repeats many times refering to Link as 'Zelda's Chosen Swordsman', similar to the phrase 'Hylia's Chosen Hero'. And lastly, as far as I've thought about it, while the Temple of Time doesn't resemble the Forgotten Temple/Temple of Time from Skyward Sword, the size of thst particular sky island and having a big monument like the Temple of Time does harken back to Skyloft itself, and the clouds surrounding the Rito dungeon in TotK is reminiscent of where Link learns his first harp song in Skyward Sword.
Anyway, I'm done. Hope you find these ideas interesting at least.
P.S. Forgot to mention the fact that Zelda becomes the stand-in Sage of Time, and given her magical appearance and disappearance in the past from the perspective of the Hylians themselves, you can see how legends might spread of a 'Goddess of Time'.
One thing to keep in mind with the master sword is also the severity of the damage it suffered. In BoTW after links "death", we see the sword chipped and dulled. If we were to make a human analogy it would be the same as a human having cuts and bruises, typical injuries from battle. However, in ToTK we see the Master Sword with not a damaged blade, but a DESTROYED blade. The sword was infected with the gloom and the blade was eroded then completely shattered.
To repair the sword from such extreme damage would require FAR more than just the ambient sacred power found in the korok forest, it would need extreme levels of direct saturation in sacred power to fully restore and strengthen the blade.
This whole element is the same theme we experience with link in ToTK. He suffered severe, degrading, and life threatening injuries from the gloom. Rauru himself said the only thing that saved links life was replacing his gloom-infested arm with Raurus arm, however link would have to spend a great deal of time journeying to the various shrines the retrieve the Blessing of Lights so he could use them to restore his lost strength.
The Master Sword suffered extreme damage that would be utterly beyond repair were it an ordinary sword. It sends itself back in time with the help of the power of the Temple of Time to fall into the hands of Zelda. Zelda then sacrificed herself to exponentially increase her sacred power so she could transfer it to the sword to provide sufficient power to restore the sword. However the damage it suffered was severe and the only option was to use that sacred power to replace the blade were it was destroyed and gradually use the power of light to regain its power.
I can't help but believe that these new developments (I say new, but it's been over a decade) in the Master Sword's attributes, behaviors, and significance are the result in being a different sword, not in a literal sense but in who has made decisions regarding it. From 1991 through 2006, the Master Sword had fairly consistently been known as the sword crafted by the ancient sages in order to combat the greatest evil and seal it away, not so much destroy. Since 2011, though, the sword has taken on a new backstory, new attributes, and new significance, now being known as the blade forged by the goddess and tempered by her chosen hero, with sentience and a limited ability to combat evil, as well as, most notably, a more prominent tendency to outright destroy evil rather than simply to seal it.
Significantly, this change seems to have corresponded with the rise of Fujibayashi Hidemaro as the head director and writer of Zelda, taking over from Aonuma Eiji, who became head producer. The Master Sword of ALttP, OoT, and TP and the Master Sword of SS, BotW, and TotK, to me, at least, could almost pass as entirely different weapons, whether for good or for bad. TWW's Master Sword is another box of Cuccos to be rolled into at a later date.
Weapons and vehicles such as ships are often given female names and pronouns as they can be seen as goddesses and protectors of their wielders, so Zelda acknowledging Fi as such makes sense.
well demise was sealed into the sword meaning he could have been weakening it over time hence its need to be returned to the pedestal or sacred grounds to help with reducing the influence of the corruption within. so that's why it constantly needs upkeep.
Pretty sure Demise's "consciousness" was slowly dying while trapped inside the sword as that's what Fi says in the japanese version of Skyward Sword before Link places it on it's pedestal in the Sealed Temple. The reason why Impa stood behind in the past was so that she could watch the sword in case Demise's spirit managed to break free somehow. Ganondorf IS Demise so it's impossible for them to exist at the _same_ time.
When Link gets the Master Sword from the light dragon it shines with a splendor that hasn't been seen since Skyward Sword.
The sacred tear amplifies the user's power. If Ganondorf inherited Demises evil power, then the amplified power of the gloom can definitely break the Master Sword. I also wonder if the tear was attached to the Master Sword, then that should theoretically amplify her sacred power. I'd like to see Link use the tear himself and see what effect it would have on a Master Swordsman. Maybe godlike stamina, more strength and resilience.
Flurry rushes and bullet time for days!
I think it would straight up just give him Blade Mode from Metal Gear Rising. Free movement when his perception of time is slowed + the power and precision to cut clean through objects at will. I also like to imagine that the Stone would amplify the sword's raw cutting power as well, resulting in Blade Mode.
I think it's also good lowkey storytelling that yes, the Master Sword *repaired* itself over the 100 years of Link's slumber in BotW, but that was mainly its physical form. Its 'spiritual' or 'sacred' aspects needed *much* longer to be *restored*, namely the multiple thousands of years it took Zelda to fully bring back the blade from the brink of annihilation.
From this we can conclude that the Master Sword's physical and sacred aspects are not restored at the same pace when put to rest. If anything, in the couple of years between BotW and TotK, the Master Sword barely had any time to restore more of its sacred power in the Korok Forest.
From ALttP and ALBW, you can also see that man-made improvements to the blade by the smiths in both games will wear off eventually, since in ALBW the Master Sword has returned to its natural state. On the other hand, in ALttP, you do see that the final Master Sword 'upgrade' *is* done by a Great Fairy in the Dark World, which again is in character for a sacred, magic entity to be able to pull off... if only for a limited time here, appearently.
im so upset that the master sword still “runs out of energy” (breaks) in tears of the kingdom. it should never break after the events of the story.
It's the Gloom Curse, afflicted by Ganondorf.
At the very least the sword doesn't break during the fight against Ganondorf. (I think. I went into that fight with a sword that was about to break, but during the fight it never shattered)
So it's definitely just a gameplay thing.
@@zamen7545the only way I think you could've justified giving it infinite durability away from Ganondorf and his phantoms is if you don't give it the ability to fuse. A base damage of 75 at all times (Silver Lynel saber horn) with no durability would be pretty busted. Of course, this is bound to change in some way with Trial of the Sword 2 being inevitable, but in that case, you'll have definitely earned it. Getting an unbreakable weapon after completing only a third of the shrines would be pretty busted.
This was really good! But I might have missed something. What about the Master Sword were we wrong about??
5:30
It dulls weapons because this instance of Gannondorf is intelligent and guided the malice/gloom to specifically target weapons. The Master Sword was simply it's fist victim.
As for how it was strong enough to destroy the Master Sword, who knows. Probably from Tens of Thousands of years of neglect (if not hundreds or longer). Many was hoping this to mean Demise was making a comeback and were instead treated to Nintendo retconing the entire lore.
We dont know if this was a retcon. This game potentially takes place so far into the future we have no idea how far. For all we know this could be akin to Hyrule 5.0. There have been at least two Hyrules, maybe more. we have the main one we know from OoT, But the one from Spirit Tracks is a New Hyrule, Its one Tetra and WW link create after the events of WW and PH. Whos to say this isnt a new land.
It could also be a reboot of sorts for the series, a way for them to step away from the "Official" timeline. And just make games with worrying about conflicting Info. Whose to say this isnt a brand new timeline that has all elements of the other three. which could very well be due to the fact that a lot of things in ToTK mirror older games. adn the fact there are references from all the timelines.
Now granted, whos to say it isnt a retcon. it very well could be. But to take it as fact that it is a retcon is false imo. We dont have enough info on the timeline/history to say one way or the other. Both BoTW and ToTK are unlike any other games in the series.
@goldenarmorpikachu
*All timeliness and most games are simultaneously mentioned (oracle games have yet to get some love), which can not happen without something akin to a DragonBreak or a retcon
*Gannondorf was sealed since the start of Hyrule, and Hyrulians were portrayed as Mayans (if that's not a retcon, we should seriously question our own world's history)
*Zora & Rito both exist, which shouldn't be possible as the Zora evolved into the Rito when the waters could no longer support Zora life after the great flood. Only way that's possible is a Drafon Break or a rotcon such as making Marin the new origin of the Rito
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What makes me wonder is the fact that in botw there were actually two master swords, except if I'm mistaken. Bc Zelda was always deep above the clouds with the broken master sword but also having the master sword we know in the events of botw. Well it's confusing...
My friend mentioned this! By extension, we've had two Zelda too lol
Yes, so in theory Link was almost able to dual wield masterswords, if he knew.
Also, current post ToTK Zelda must be hella traumatized. She have seen countless calamities, and had to witness the calamity that she failed to stop twice.
Wouldn't be the first time there were two Zeldas at the same time.
@@nihili4196fter beating the game, I'm not sure Zelda remembers anything. She says it was like a deep sleep. Probably for the best, anyway.
The Light Dragon could have existed the entire time, flying above the clouds where nobody could see, but I'm thinking the time travel works a bit differently than most media portrays it.
When you start a new game, you see the light dragon flying around the great sky island, and it's just that, the light dragon. As you finish the tutorial and get the door open in the temple of time you get to see the dragon one last time, only after the master sword gets sent back in time. From that point on the sword exists on the light dragons head, where it wasn't there until Link sent it back
10:30 just noticed that she has the Triforce symbol on her hand
3:20 Same as in this scene. In case you haven't noticed she's using the Triforce's _omnipotent_ magic to reforge the Master Sword back to it's fully powered state.
Just feels like the devs are at war with their own design in TOTK it feels like they just want the player to replace the master sword and don't look back
I just wish the Master sword flies like Mjolnir. They have the animation in BOTW but was never used.
“The Master Sword is a ship with which you can sail upstream and downstream through time’s river…” - Sheik
There is a “ white sword of the goddess” in totk. Its the skyward sword. I have it stored in my house in game right next to the wind waker boomerang. Im not sure if that sword being there messes with the continuity of the sword or not
"Why does gloom dull weapons tho" It… It’s corrosive. It causes decay. We literally see Mineru rotting as it kills her. I-I dunno what you want.
But... whate happened to the Triforce in these games? Ganondorf sought it in OoT but it has been throughly replaced by the tears in this game!
Personally, i think Gloom is a mixture of Gannondorf's Blood and Malice, increasing it's potency. When Gannondorf was cut, it oozed from his wound. Since blood itself is not inherently evil it was likely enough to overcome the Master Swords power to repel evil at the time. The Master sword at that point was only as strong as the Deku Tree as it was with his sacred power that restored the sword enough to fight Calamity Ganon, so it shattered when it was not powerful enough to repel Gloom completely.
many things to point out:
1. the master sword in wind waker is most likely NOT the original master sword. one may chaulk it up to art style or even graphics but it DOES look different, the hilt is different and it's blade profile are also different. art style or graphic fidelity do not explain those away. there for using it to link its "being restored" needs is not correct. ergo the only the real master sword need to be restored is in botw and totk, and that is most likely added to the entire gameplay of those game with breakable weapons as a whole. And if the weapon degradation is not used in the next game the master sword will also not have the issue of being able to break.
2. the seal in windwaker was NOT put on ganondorf but the castle and every monster in it. ganon had already gone to the surface by that point and also killed the old sages keeping the new master sword powerful
3. Fi said she could not form physically outside the sword in skyward sword at the end. it is clearly stated by her as a fact to exactly explain WHY she does not appear in other games, specially older ones.
in short this does stir some thought experiment but to many things are misunderstood or not correct entirely to fully support it as possibility.
I think we all forget one Minion of the Demon King his sword who could still exist awating his Master true Rebirth with this incarnation nearly being a perfect replica of him as seen in his form so he could restore him while unleashing all other Dark Gods and Demon Kings upon the worlds like Vaati Maladas Majora...
The one thing which should have happened is the restored master sword should have not been able to lose its power. It was in Zelda for thousands of years and just to go back to how it was at the start of the game.
I am now going to look for a video about how the Master Sword and the Sword of Gryfindor are one in the same.
I always thought that the sword was at its weakest because it didn’t finish its duty of defeating Ganondorf. Instead of fighting him, we fought something closer akin to Phantom Ganon in the form of Calamity Ganon, his power given some form through a means. It has basically been left on, losing its strength over time, still prepared to face Ganon until it became an empty shell. A weapon that can only use its sacred power for moments at a time because that’s all the power it has.
It’s being used frequently, fighting against evil but never defeating it.
So what exactly where we were wrong about?
We seem to be missing that Fi was forever meant to remain dormant in the Sword once her mission was over, and while she is still technically in the sword, she can name become physical again, at least not without the power of all three pieces of the Triforce to grant her that.
That being said, there’s a whole reason why the Master Sword just doesn’t always work right away when you get it in any Zelda game. It was NEVER meant to last, which is why a lot of missions require you to restore and/or power it back up. Yes, the sword was created by Hylia for the purpose of vanishing evil, but much like anything pretty much around us, they eventually succumb to time and wearing out. If it was ready 100% of the time from the moment you get it, then it’s no fun.
On that note, I adore Fi, and people who call her terrible are just trolls (no, don’t @ me).
At the very least, the master sword in BotW/TotK is 10,000 years old! Sure, it's magic, but it's been jabbed into ganon's sloppy pig guts at least a few times, and except in OoT, and OG LoZ it's been left outside... alot. When you get OG gannondorf's gloomy juice on it, the magic of the sword has just had enough of our shit.
10.000 years is only time between last calamity and current one, so BoTW mastersword must be way older than that. I would argue that it's at least twice as old, since it seems during the creation of guardians and divine beasts, Zonai were pretty much forgotten.
@@nihili4196 hundreds of thousands of years old
@@nworder4life we can't really speculate that much, but if it is closer to 100.000 years, we may as well treat this game as soft reboot of the series.
10.000 is roughly time from today to first human attempts at agriculture and any kind of civilization we know of. We as species with very catalogized history have troubles remembering how life was like 3.000 years ago.
100.000 is impossibly massive amount of time to us.
And if so, no wonder mastersword keeps breaking down. It is getting too old for this shit.
so 10k year of bathing in light power, yet the master sword can use up power in 30 hits???
Game mechanics. If they made the Master Sword unbreakable again, there'd be no point in getting other weapons and using your other weapons slots.
Can't wait for Nintendo to make another "retro" 2D Zelda like A Link between Worlds with a Master Sword that doesn't break haha.
@@javiervasquez625 it probably will never happen. there may be some remake, but I highly doubt Nintendo will make another retro style Zelda.
The master sword, your sword. She’s the Fi to destroy demon king.
When you realized that there were always 2 master swords in botw/totk timeline
I don't want to sound bad because I love The Legend of Zelda but in Tears of Kingdom everything felt different I mean, in Mundo N a UA-cam channel uploaded a video of the most powerful beings from Nintendo and among them was Princess Zelda and that It made me question why she didn't defeat Ganodorf if she is so powerful and also her secret stone amplified her powers and made me wonder why the need for the Master Sword? Why her sacrifice? And why the need to imbue her power in an object, in this case in a sword? Don't mind me if this bothers you, it's just internal questions that I have about the Tears of Kingdom game and about Zelda's sacrifice that for the rest of the adventure made me feel a guilt and uselessness that makes me think about those questions and I I know it's just a video game but I still feel those feelings.
No one talks about how the master sword greatest power is the uno reverse
You dont choose me, I choose you
“Only a hero chosen by the sword itself may wield it”
The thing is Wind Waker - Master Sword should not be the original one from OoT and SS ... the reason at the end of OoT Link is sent back with together with the Master Sword removing him and it from that timeline .... Most likely that Master Sword was crafted by the sages when Ganandorf returned and they needed to fight against him hoping it would call forth a hero again ... which then would explain why the sword was dependent on the Sages for its power.
Well, it probably is the same sword. The power lossin Wind Waker may be due to it being used to sustain the seal on Ganon's power and the entire underwater Hyrule Kingdom
Imo Skyward Sword has the best version of the master sword and imo is underrated af as a game. The fact it’s “polarizing” is ridiculously sad because it’s swordplay/gameplay is it’s best feature imo.
Like sure it has some pacing flaws and Fi could get annoying but it has the best level design, combat, puzzles, swordplay, bosses, and dungeons in Zelda.
The hate against its linearity or that it’s not open world makes really no sense to me because barely of the other Zelda games are that non linear and even the non linearity hurts Zelda more because of how shallow it is.
Like who cares if you can do the water temple first if you are still required to do the water temple anyway!
I’m not saying it’s a perfect Zelda game, but imo it’s better than TP, BOTW or even TOTK imo.
Saria do you agree with me that Ganondorf in TOTK is NOT the Demon King? Demise was the Demon King , the ONLY one
One thing that in my opinion more people need to see is that in the japanese version of skyward sword there never was a demon named Demise!
It was an unnamed demon who was described as: an bringer of demise that opposed the gods. I think the reason why the english translators wanted to give this demon a name is because of how his curse works: there will always be a demon king to oppose the next incarnation of the hero’s spirit and the goddess!
With this setup it becomes clear that Link and Zelda will endlessly reincarnate because there simply are not that many who qualify as the next incarnation of those two titles. However with the number of demons existing within Hyrule Ganon does not have to be the next demon king which is why he was not always the villain in earlier games.
The issue lies again with the third aspect of this curse, the demon king not being an reincarnation which goes against how the triforce are 3 parts of a whole and due to the nature of the demon king they are often a prime candidate to inheriting power when the triforce goes to worthy wielders...
This also does not explain why Ganon seems to reincarnate so often but with how many other recurring characters this series has we can assume that reincarnation is a benefit everyone has access to in this reality.
So in short what the curse really does is not so much causing those 3 to reincarnate over and over but rather it causes a war between good and evil to occur ever so often!
Which means that because the fighting never ends Zelda and Link keeps inheriting the hero’s spirit and some aspects of the goddess respectively but it’s also possible that they would had reincarnated with these powers anyways since the three of them are not unique in being reincarnated in this fashion.
"Extraordinary. You stand as a paragon of your kind, human. You fight like no human or demon I have ever known. Though this is not the end. My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again. Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse. An incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind, dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time!"
Demise specifically curses Zelda's bloodline and the chosen hero, this means the Zelda we rescue in TotK is a blood descendant of Zelda from Skyward Sword, all Zelda's have been the child of a mortal goddess which is where they get their light power from.
@@alexmulder1145 and time power.
Every time you get the master sword it seems like your told not to rest on its power alone but you must be mentally strong. Which is interesting because it's almost like link whlas resting on his laurels in the beginning and by the end you have to use a more calculated approach. There is alot to dissect if you want to look for a real life lesson about mental and spiritual growth. I wonder if when the master sword gets powered up if it's power is equal to your mental prowess so the smarter link gets through all his puzzle solving the more resilient the sword becomes.
Wait, does Totk retcon the origin of Zelda’s magic? We assume in botw that her light magic came from her being the reincarnation of the goddess, but in totk, it’s hereditarily passed down from Rauru.
It’s both, she’s the reincarnation and the descendant at the same time. Every Zelda is
I mean, Sonia has the same (or at least similar) powers to Zelda, so it's probably a combination of descent from Hylia and Rauru
Actually her "Light Magic" comes from the _Triforce_ which she carries inside her person with limited use for reasons which have yet been explained as of the ending of Tears of the Kingdom. As shown in this scene: 3:20 Zelda used the omnipotent magic of the Triforce to imbue the shattered Master Sword with Light so that it would regain it's fully powered state.
@@trapadvisor No she's only a _descendant_ as it makes no sense for Hylia to be her own ancestor and i'm pretty sure Hylia is the one that talks through the Goddess Statues asking Link wether he wants to trade Spirit Orbs for either a Heart Container or Stamina bar.
@@Simply_resharkable ...and the Triforce which she carries in her person as seen here: 3:20
The master sword has been around for probably 100,000 years and it's been killing monsters, multiple gannons, and was nearly destroyed by the Guardians and their lasers. The master sword is definitely durable I mean it lasted for thousands of years without breaking but I think after the Guardians blasted it with lasers and fighting another version of Ganon might have pushed it over the edge.
and I think the final nail in the coffin was the original Ganondorf well pretty much snapped it like a twig pretty much the sword just reached its Breaking Point literally after so much battles and being damaged in breath of the Wild I think Ganondorf is the main reason it broke. It literally metaphors that was more powerful than it.
Everyone over here talking about why the master sword broke and im here wondering where the fuck link gets the sheathe he puts the master sword in.
It magically manifests on his back everytime he pulls it from it's pedestal.
doesn’t zelda sacred light power come from rauru’s lineage and sonia said her power was time?
TOTK ending spoilers, just in case:
I think both Zelda and Fi are wrong about the importance of the Master Sword in Tears of the Kingdom.
Link never needed the sword. It helps a lot with the fight, but he can beat Ganondorf with just about any weapon.
What Link actually needed was Zelda, as a dragon, so that he wouldn't get killed when Ganondorf swallowed his stone. If Zelda had not been there, as a dragon, then Ganondorf would have won, Master Sword or not. Her sacrifice was way, way more important beyond just restoring the sword. It's more like restoring the sword was a side benefit rather than the core purpose.
Bathes in Zelda's light juice for 1000's of years still breaks. Also didn't we see the Master Sword get upgraded to the Golden Sword? Why didn't that stick around?
The Master Sword doesn't break after being bathed in Zelda's light for thousands of years. Relative to the Master Sword's perspective, it broke _before_ being bathed in light for thousands of years.
At the beginning of TotK, the Master Sword is broken. It then gets sent back to the past, is bathed in sacred light for millennia, gets pulled by Link, and is used to defeat the Demon Dragon.
@@MuffinsAPlenty tell that to the your sword ran out of energy message lol. I’m making a joke cause I think it’s lame that it still does that
Okay guys, hear me out:
TOTK: The founding of Hyrule, technically the first game of the series. Queen Sonia and King Rauru are married, and they (potentially) have a child, who is this child?
Hylia.
Lemme put on my tinfoil hat for a minute.
So the Zonai are gods, or at least, depicted as gods, with stones that amp one's power. Since Sonia and Rauru are too busy uniting the nations of Hyrule, they can't look after baby Hylia, so they give her to either Mineru (who lets be honest, is just sitting on a chair in the Depths, doing absolutely nothing) or Hylians. The events of the Imprisoning War happens, Zelda turns into a dragon and Mineru commits coma in the Purah Pad. Hylia, being raised by two races, being half hylian and Zonai, is herald as a Messiah and a divine connection between the Gods and the Mortals, and is thus shoved up onto Royalty. Out of the few remaining Tears (Secret Stones) Hylia manifests enough power to bring the Triforce into the mortal realm (Don't ask me the specifics, this is just me trying to make this messed up timeline somewhat comprehensible)
Demise is born somehow, my guess is that Ganondorf's seal faltered a tiny bit and released his malice onto the world, not enough to make an impact, but strong enough to make a Phantom of himself: Demise, as the similarities of Stoned Up Ganon and Demise are numerous, and lets not firget that massive scar on Demise' forehead where Ganon's stone would be.
Demise continues in his creator's footsteps, to destroy Hyrule and rule over it as King, and maybe turn it into a good place for Demons to reside.
Hylia vs Demise happens, but its basically a repeat of what happened to her mother and father. Hylia touches the triforce to wish for Demise to be sealed and for Hyrule to now go into the sky, at the cost of losing her life and godhood, but she is reincarnated into Zelda.
Now how can i be so sure that Hylia is Sonia's daughter?
I'm bringing out the Tinfoil house for this one:
Because Sonia says that she and Zelda share a blood connection in Dragon Tear 2. There'd be NO WAY this could happen because as far as we know, there wasn't a Royal Liniege WITH Zonai blood connection after this. The ONLY WAY Zelda can have a blood connection to Sonia, is that if she HAD A DAUGHTER BEFORE GANONDORF FISTED HER (giggidy)
Not only that, but Sonia and SS Zelda LOOK SO FUCKING SIMILAR AS WELL!!!
Pull up a picture of the two, take a long, hard stare and come back to me.
Now at this point count me as a madman.
During the Imprisoning War, the Goddess Sword was given to the Hero depicted in tapestry in Kakariko AND the Ancient Hero's Aspect: Hylia's chosen Champion, a Zonai that she herself, using her remaining Tears, brought down to become her chisen champion, that or a random Zonai was running around and decided he was good at swords one day.
The Hero dies, and Hylia sends his soul somewhere to have a chance at reincarnation, which eventually was Link, but after that, The Spirit of the Hero just became a universal force that just picked random 10 year old boys to be it's successor.
Anyway, Demise killed the Hero, Hylia want Mano v Mano mode, she sacrificed her life and boom, SS Zelda.
And thus Genetics and Bloodlines would prove strong til finally she becomes BOTW and TOTK Zelda.
Anyways Demise was turned into a Toe Monster, and was unsealed by Girahim (Play all of The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword for the full story)
Demise has gained Hylia's powers from Zelda, and i'm guessing they were amped by her secret stone before she died so Demise is now basically his own thing. He is now a god that dies via Master Sword pinprick, and with the last of Hylia's power places a curse on Link and Zelda, which then means that emise makes HIS own emissary, this time out of his creator's image: OoT, WW and TP Ganondorf, and these Ganons are literally the same person, as he was sealed, not killed, so he was just in permanent stasis until he broke out and finally caused Hyrule to flood, or be casted in eternal twilight.
In TP and WW, Demuse's emissary is defeated and that power went back to TOTK Ganondorf, making Calamity Ganon using his resentment, malice and other negative emotions fueled 70-fold by his other incarnations, two if which held the Triforce of power and the other a carbon copy of him at full power... And i guess using Hyuga's remaining energy from link between worlds... To make Calamity Ganon, which got defeated, and eventually boom: True Ganondorf is back baby.
Thats my theory of events i now need to sleep in my tinfoil pyjamas and tinfoil bed while drinking water from a tinfoil cup.
Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk
I feel like you should add totk spoiler warning there
So, it's interesting, and odd that the Master Sword would need to be replenished and recharged to be powerful again. I really wonder if the Master Sword from SS is the same in BoTW. I feel it's not the same one. There was a theory that the Master sword in Wind Waker was created by the Hylians in desperation since they had no hero to open the Temple of time to get the original Master sword. We don't know how long did it take for the goddesses to make the choice to flood Hyrule, I feel the Hylians were given enough time to make a sword like the Master sword and power it. Hence why they needed a sage, and probably why Ganondorf knew about this and killed the sages before the flooding of Hyrule. Ok so to get to a point I am making, I feel ToTK and BoTW I think are Skyward sword if the hylians never went to the sky, and Ganondorf took the spot of demise which changed how the Master sword was crafted in this game.
There's a lot wrong with thinking they're not the same sword. Fi still resides in it, and it looks exactly the same as it did in Skyward Sword. The Master Sword has always needed a buff to stand up to its final boss, and in A Link to the Past, it's completely ineffective against Ganon even with the Golden Sword enhancement and Link has to use Silver Arrows to beat him (Silver Arrows are the canonical means of victory he used, according to the official strategy guide).
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Interesting that stone weapons are impervious to harm induced by gloom. Gloom oxidizes the metals.
All those thousands of years of "restauration" to end up with the same stats of the master sword of breath of the wild inbterm of durability and strength
Wait, what exactly where we wrong about? You never explained that.
What were we wrong about?
Still doesn't explain why Ganondorf was able to shatter the Master Sword in the beginning.
I think Fi can't physically appear due to what she said in the end of skyward sword.
I am going too start comenting this sort of thing until my quest is done.
Fi is pronounced Phai.
I know that for certain because I am german and play my games in german.
In german words are spoken out in a very straight forword way and her name is actually written out as Phai in the german translation.
I don't want too step on anyones toes whit this ,but it bothers me each time I hear her name pronounced diffrently.
Phai
NOT Fee
Hear Hear!
@@nworder4life thats not how the german language works thou.
@@yamikiri9544 I don't know squat about German, but Fi is Phai not fee.
@@nworder4life agreed!
Nintendo is doing my girl Fi dirty with how they treat her vessel, the Master Sword, in BOTW and TOTK
No, I don’t think WE were wrong. I have known about the Master Sword’s need to be restored since Wind Waker.
I feel as they played it safe with the plot. The execution of the story was kinda underwhelming tbh. I felt like it was kinda lazy to have each acquiring sage scene be essentially the same. As much I really enjoy the gameplay of these last 2 games, I hope Nintendo chooses a different link for the next game and focuses more on the story and lore too 🥲
Well that’s because they were all together when it happened 😑 its not like they fought him 1v1
@@Natsuoboi I can guarantee that if you were to find four veteran soldiers who all participated in the same battle and witnessed it from the same exact perspective, and asked them to retell the most crucial moments of that battle, you'd still get four completely different stories. Because they are different people with different beliefs, different priorities and most importantly, they would all have been hyperfocused on their own actions and what happened to them personally. The way Nintendo handled this was lazy, there is no arguing around that. The sages tell their story the way an observer would. Not like they were actually there, living those moments. It's bad storytelling and nothing else.
@@DerLetzteMonarch I agree wholeheartedly but alas i feel demandading a deep and engaging narrative in a game where you can fool around crafting crazy vehicles Minecraft style is been a bit demanding towards Nintendo who were more focused on giving players a lot of fun things to do than deliver an epic, cinematic experience filled with turns, twists and an emotional rollercoaster. Should the next "big Zelda" take a totally different approach with it's gameplay and storyline then we can all agree than a more engaging and inmersive narrative is very much welcomed for old time Classic Zelda fans.
I suspect the reason for the devs framing the sages' retelling of the Imprisoning War as essentially the same regardless of which sage it is, is because you can theoretically get the sages (save Mineru) in any order. So each sage's cutscene could potentially be the player's first time seeing the story play out. It also explains why Mineru's scene shows more of what happened when you get her--the player would have obtained all of the other sages by that time, and so more of the story could be revealed. Whether or not you consider that to be lazy storytelling is up to you. I also would have liked to see a different perspective from each of the sages but I understand why Nintendo chose not to do it that way.
im missing the Theory here.
A. Windwaker is likely a seperate Master Sword created by the sages after Link's defeat (Different blade design)
B. other than that you described forging the blade in skyward sword
C. Then point out that the last two games have quite literally thrown in our faces that the 'master sword is running low on energy' either mechanically or thru story
D.We make comparisons to energy types......when both are called Sacred Power.......And the Deku Tree even straight up states that.
So whats the theory? most of this sounds canon already
A. The blade is literally just Master Sword and Awakened Master Sword from SS but very stylized.
Zelda's sacrifice (while depressing) feels shorthanded because Nintendo decided to let her be a human again, the impact of her sacrifice would've been even more depressing if they kept her that way making the game ending bittersweet. Now with her gone, would the kingdom have to make do with becoming a different political hierarchy? Or would the 6 races of Hyrule become a Round Table? Governing the land and now have to think of a way to deal with further threats in the future.
I really hope we are with Zelda from the get go and don't split up like we have been.
Why does everything have to be depressing and sad, though? Link had to beat a draconified GANON to even have a shot at returning Zelda to normal, and even then, he went into that fight thinking she couldn't be. In fact, it's only at the end when Rauru and Sonia's spirits intervene that we see Zelda returned to normal.
Doesn't make her sacrifice any less impactful. She swallowed that stone thinking there would be no going back, and outside of that surprise at the end, it totally was.
Also: hasn't Link suffered enough? He lost everything (including himself) during the Calamity. I think losing Zelda, one of the few people alive who understand him and is closest to him, would honestly break him.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 The fact Nintendo said that Totk would be darker than Majora's Mask was a slight understatement, MM definitely had the more depressing notes compared to this game.
@@rockowlgamer631 at the same time i kinda wish she did stay a dragon , but on the second hand it would have broke me and i would have be extremly sad for link , dude wasn't given a rest , he already lost so many loved people and lost one time , i think its more a story of hope , than despair here , botw was definitly darker because we learn link and zelda just kinda lost. so tbh i would have been fine with both ending but i like when it happi , i need some happi in my life sometime.
@@justsomeone7961 I think the problem I'm having is the whole part of "sacrifice" then undoing that said thing.
Like for example Emmeryn from Fire Emblem Awakening, she had to make the tough decision of suicide to prevent Chrom from handing over the Fire Emblem to the mad king Gangrel, and after doing so her sacrifice was even felt among the enemy nation that the enemy soldiers decided to throw down their weapons. The emotional impact that it left was very touching and a bit depressing, however a xenologue pops up later and shows a living Emmeryn with no memory in the game which you can recruit which just ruins the emotional sacrifice she did earlier in the game.
That's my problem with reverting the sacrifice Zelda does, granted it would've sucked but I feel like it would've made us appreciate her sacrifice more, besides I'm sure Purah and maybe even Mineru would've joined together to figure out a solution while Link either keeps watch over the Light Dragon or joins in on the research since now he's left without help. Besides he has friends across the other races from Sidon to Riju.
@@rockowlgamer631 The Legend of Zelda isn't Fire Emblem though the narrative is very explicit on what it's trying to achieve which is usually providing a "fairytale" storyline which involves overcoming a series of challenges and adversities with heroes who're _always_ meant to be rewarded with a "...and they lived happily ever" after experiencing said adversity as part of a _formula_ which Nintendo has relied upon since the original The Legend of Zelda on the NES making it impossible for any such "subversions" to take place as it would break the formula of the franchise and how Nintendo designs this games in the first place.
Nintendo doesn't do "trilogies" with the Zelda timeline and so wether you think it would have been far "better" had she stayed a dragon ultimately it's clear that to Nintendo following their narrative formula is far more important than simply attempting to be "edgy" with such bittersweet approach to storytelling.
It's over 20,000!
The dulling of the weapons is just an excuse for the pristine weapon mechanic
I should've bought a Wii U. I expected to have a Switch port of Windwaker by now.
Remember when the sword was actually important? When it was required to use to defeat Ganondorf? I feel like we're taking steps BACK when the master sword, in both games it doesn't actually feel like it's important, especially gameplay wise, it still breaks, and you can defeat the final boss without it, it's honestly quite insulting how the BLADE OF EVILS BANE (sword that seals the darkness sounds like a 4 year old came up with it) is now reduced to constantly being sidelined, TotK should've been about the master sword, and how YOU the player restore it overtime with the tears, but no you just give to Zelda, comeplete 20 shrines and you can go get the sword
That is the unfortunate side effect of open world. If you want truly open world, something that a lot of fans were begging for, and what now feels integral to the game series, you have to give all required tools to beat the game in tutorial, making anything more just optional. So unless you want to get master sword in first hour of the game, I don't see how we could make it into what it used to be
Pretty sure you use the Master Sword to finish off the Demon Dragon
@@OldManTastic and that's it, other than that there's no point in using it
@@nihili4196 That's why linear is best for story.
@@nworder4life I've been saying that about Pokémon games for years now, but apparently people need to have open world and ability to choose gyms in that game.
And although I agree that linear storytelling is the most solid and easiest to write, I feel like after open world of BotW/TotK we cannot go back anymore.
Open world is a gimmick that works great when it works, but when it doesn't, you get legendary sword that's best used to chop down trees
Sometimes I think it's demise in totk. Especially after playing skyward
I wish they would of made the Master Sword unbreakable in Tears of the Kingdom.
Well there's always the chance for a "Trial of the Sword" DLC in Tears of the Kingdom which could reward the player with a fully unbreakable Master Sword as a surprise to end the Era of the Wild in a surprisingly fun way.
I'm good with Fi being retconned. skyhward sword was the meh one of the 3d series of zelda. Lots of potential that really didn't hit the mark.
Im so fucking confused now….so this game is apparently not a sequel but an alternate universe? But also this Zelda is a sage and no longer has the divinity of goddess Hylia. Yeah. Someone please elaborate. Cuz I’m not even sure I’m understanding. Let alone discussing or trying to understand the sword.
What do you mean "not a sequel"? The very first reveal trailer literally calls it the sequel to BotW.
She can be a Sage and of divine bloodline. Exact same thing in OOT. Zelda inherits her time powers by being of hylia’s bloodline. As Hylia was a goddess of time.
Both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are a _soft reboot_ of the Zelda timeline taking place thousands of years after the "Era of Myth" (the 3 timelines) mentioned in the book "Creating a Champion" in a NEW KINGDOM of Hyrule founded by Rauru and Sonia and with a _reincarnation_ of Ganondorf similar to the one from Four Swords Adventures. The Zelda seen in this 2 games is also a descendant of the same Hylia from Skyward Sword as are all her predecessors from across the Era of Myth as confirmed by her having Hylia's divine powers and the ability to "talk" to the very same Master Sword which her ancestor first forged into the Goddess Sword.
In summary: The Era of the Wild is a _soft reboot_ thousands of years in the future of a new Hyrule with no timesplits, no alternate universe and no retcons whatsoever.
Another interesting thought, regarding the possibility that tears of the kingdom leads back into skyward sword. Because Zelda did what she did to restore and empower The Master Sword, that could mean that the spirit of the sword itself might have gone through a sort of factory reset of sorts resulting in an effective loop.
No loop whatsoever Zelda didn't travel to the foundation of the literal _first_ kingdom of Hyrule from before The Minish Cap but a NEW Hyrule formed AFTER the _Era of Myth_ described in the book "Creating a Champion" which explains the Era of the Wild's placement in the timeline. The Ganondorf who appears in the memories is a _reincarnation_ similar to the one from Four Swords Adventures which is why he has no knowledge of the Triforce and anything related to the Golden Goddesses and the Sacred Realm where it was left hidden around this time in the Unified Timeline.
i like the dragon break theory
spoiler the light dragon is zelda
Only one that makes sense every one keeps skyward sword canonically 1st n puts this after just seems off still
¿Isn't the "Dragon Break" theory just a simple "unification" of the timelines like it happens in Skyrim i believe? If yes that's pretty much confirmed as of the official timeline shown in the book "Creating a Champion".
@javiervasquez625 yea but do to time travel and tears it makes sense as to why we see hints of all time lines kuz the place zelda goin back b4 skyward sword events happened
The way I see it.
Spoilers ahead so dont read if you dont want them..
The master sword is already proven to have unlimited potential. However it has to be bathed in sacred power. The catch all is, its as powerful as the source of this sacred power. The great Deku tree's area has sacred power and can only do so much. This means the sword only repaired itself over the hundred years with what was in the forest. It wasnt strong enough for Ganondorf. With that said when Zelda did what she did to become the dragon, the secret stones not only amplify their power but when consumed it turns them into an eternal dragon. Which is in this lore extremely powerful. So with the power of the sacred light dragon and 10,000 or so years of bathing for the sword. It became more than ample to destroy ganon and handle his power. Which also begs to reason if someone more powerful showed it would probably be a problem for the sword. Based on the lore the sword is as powerful as its source of sacred power. Which also stands to reason this power diminishes over time. Thats shown in TOTK cutscene when they got the sword again from the deku tree as he explains how the sword actually works with its power.
Out of pure curiosity when we speak of "Sacred Power" are we talking the _Triforce_ inside Zelda's body? As that's the only "Sacred Power" i can think of that would be able to replicated the 3 Sacred Flames's power to empower the Master Sword into it's most powerful state. Seeing as the omnipotent Triforce is very much the only thing capable of reforging the Master Sword to it's clearly the only way in which it could have happened.
@@javiervasquez625 King Rauru's power was "Sacred Power". Which was basically the light that defeats evil and such. The power zelda wields is inheritance from Rauru and Sonia according to TOTK lore and cutscenes
@@fahlur I see... well i got news for you: Zelda's "magic powers" have nothing to do with her ancestry dating back to the first king and queen of New Hyrule but rather her carrying the one true Triforce created by the Golden Goddesses lying hidden within her own person as the so called "Sealing Power" as shown in this scene: 3:20 Secret Stone's magic
@@javiervasquez625 while I like the theory, you have to also note that the sacred power from rauru and the time power from sonia would be blood line. However the triforce was also hidden within the royal family as well. That in zelda games history was used to seal the "calamity" over and over. That was shown. but this game also noted on blood line quite a bit. Why cant it be a combo of both? the secret stone also only amplifies their power, it doesnt give them their power.
Wrong about what?
Why is the Master Sword still so damned fragile, though?
Too bad we didn't have to return the master sword to the destroyed temple of time to fix it, it would of fit better with the lore imo.
Doesn’t that happen in the beginning of the game?
I understand the comparison between the restoration with the Master Sword for Wind Waker and BOTW/TOTK but the thing the sword that is in Wind Waker is not the same sword from Skyward Sword and likely BOTW/TOTK depending on where these games are placed on the timeline. Simply because when The Hero of Time left the adult timeline it took the spirit of the hero and The Master Sword back to the Child Timeline. Its why Wind Waker Link is not related to the previous Links nor does he have the Spirit of the Hero but more so made his own since he earned it but the sword that he wields is not the same it a Replica.
did that mean in the young timeline there are two master sword at a same time
That's not true, that's a fan theory.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 Then how do you explain the existence of the sword if Links takes it back to his timeline. Also, the blade looks completely different and I understand different art styles but still is different. The blade's power is dormant but every other master sword shown in the series never is in that state besides Skyward Sword before it gained the blessing of Hylia. Also, a line is said by Ganondorf to Link after attacking him with the sword "Go back to the world below, and tell that to the pathetic fools who made this blade!" Indicating that this sword was crafted as a replacement for the original one that no longer exists as it went back to its original time which makes sense why there is no Spirit of the Hero along with that no Blade of Evils Bane.
@@Pelios_ Good point but I think Ganondorf was referencing the story that sword was made by the sages themselves as Ganondorf seemed to knowledgeable in Oot of who had the spiritual stones so he had to know a possible history of the creation of the master sword.
@@sykune I would think it would be very unlikely that he would know the true history of the blade because everyone refers the blade as the one that Hero of Time wielded instead of the Original Hero or some other title since you know Skyward Sword didn't exist at the time but just the state of the sword and the dialogue its more than likely the sword is just a replica due to the timeline split
Ganondorf is not Ganon
I guess I do need to play Skyward Sword huh?
It's worth playing the Switch version
Skyward Sword has some major flaws, but I still enjoyed it over all.
You are also wrong about the master sword in wind Waker. That master sword was a fake master sword well more a Hylian sage made attempted copy of it. The wind Waker takes place in the 3rd time line. When Zelda sent Adult Link back to the past to live his life. He took the Master sword with him. This is why when Gannon appears a century later no hero of time came and there was no master sword for someone to take up against said Threat. The sages attempted to make a master sword using their power and succeeded but with no hero they were forced to do the events that lead to the flooding. This is why the master sword in Wind Waker is so weak. It is not a sword of evils bane. Merely. A mortal copy
So weak? It kept Hyrule castle frozen in time for a hundred+years. It was just artistic choice by Nintendo, it's meant to be the same Master Sword.
I notice your names, "Saria"... (nice to meet you btw)...
What is your opinion of Sara's song/ LOST WOODS?!
GARNON IS BARNANERS! 😢
Neat